Punk Vampira: Maila Nurmi Part 4

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
okay, here we go.
Part four myla nurmy, punkvampire.
I'm so excited but also sad, Idon't want to.
Part four Myla Nurmi, punkVampyra.

(00:25):
I'm so excited but also sad, Idon't want to.
I don't want it to end.
I love her.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
I know I feel like there's a lot, there's a lot,
there's a lot, there's still alot, there's always a lot.
What a life.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
What a life.
Hello and welcome to Dead andKind of Famous, where we dig
into the life stories of deadfolks who enjoyed a touch or two
of fame in their time.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
And now reside permanently in the Hollywood
Forever Cemetery.

Speaker 1 (00:52):
I'm Marissa Rivera and I know nothing, but I do
know that your daughter'sfavorite sweet treat is the
banana bread.
I bake her.
It is it very much is um she'sobsessed with it.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
She had a monkeys and banana themed birthday this
weekend for her second birthday.
She did.
It was really cute, and she was.
That banana bread was a wholeactivity in and of itself.
Someone was eating it, she wasinterested.
You know she wanted your.
She was stealing bites.
She was stealing bites.
She's such a bite stealer.

Speaker 1 (01:30):
Love her.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
Yes, and I'm Courtney Blomquist and I know way too
much, but I don't know whatdon't.
I know I don't know, oh, how tosend a fucking invitation or to
text people from my likecomputer, and and I think I just

(01:52):
don't know how to juggle havingthis is really what it is.
I don't know how to jugglehaving a child's birthday party,
which is actually extremelyinvolved, they party, which is
actually extremely involved.
Um, any party planning isinvolved.
Yes, with like the rest of mylife.
Yeah, because I feel like, um,there's like, even if I think
I'm doing it right, I'm gonnafuck something up because I have

(02:14):
too much going on.
That's like what's going on yeah, you know she's a mom on the go
yeah, but I fucked upsomebody's invitation like it
didn't go through and I was soit was.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
It was like an apple to android situation computer to
apple computer to and you know,it's because it's because apple
is apple is the devil.
I'm gonna say it, I said it I'msorry, I said it and I have all
apple products I was gonna sayI have all.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
Where's your brand loyalty?

Speaker 1 (02:42):
I have listen, they don't.
They're not paying to sponsorthis.
I'll tell you that much true,they're not paying to sponsor
this.
They've never cast me in onesingle commercial.
You have to buy my loyaltythat's fair.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
I'll accept that, okay, okay yeah, it was.

Speaker 1 (02:58):
It's the whole apple android interface war thing that
you know.
We didn't ask to be a part ofthat and here we are, pawns.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
Pawns in it and it's true, like it doesn't tell you
right away that it doesn't gothrough.
Sometimes it does, butsometimes it's just like, oh,
let's just wait long enough foryou to not look anymore.

Speaker 1 (03:15):
And for your ADHD to take over and you've moved on to
another task.

Speaker 2 (03:19):
It's not even ADHD.
I just had to move on toanother task.
I had to keep going Becauseshe's a mom on the go.
That's right, I'm a mom on thego.
This is the song that you andEllen have come up with, this
week.
Our dear friend Ellen, who alsolives in this compound that we
have here this compound offriendship.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
Yeah, this cult Speaking of.
Yeah, if Vampyra started a cult.

Speaker 2 (03:45):
Oh, I'd join.
That would be the easiest cultto join ever.
That's so fun.
Yeah, I'd follow her right intoher grave.
I'd snuggle up to her corpse.

Speaker 1 (03:56):
That's right.
That's right Into her hotbeautiful.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
Yeah, I wonder what her skeleton looks like after
she trained her waist like that.
You know, it's probably likedistorted, probably yeah but
anyway, not to be disrespectful,but no, but she knows, god yeah
her waist was it's impossible.
Do we have a measurement?
I think it was 17 inches, thatis smaller than my thigh, that's

(04:22):
like smaller than?
Uh, what's the?
The?
That was like the gone with thewind measurement, I think, when
she's like bragging about herwaist, which is, by the way,
with the, with the corset right,right, right, but it was like
18 inches, I think, so it's evensmaller than that.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
So I just like audibly, like swallowed.
Yeah, jesus christ, I can'tbreathe for you like like
seriously, that's bigger than mythigh and I am a 5'2 petite
lady.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
And honestly we're going to get into it, but she
kind of paid a price for all ofthat.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
Yeah, usually do.
Price for skinniness, a pricefor fame, a price for beauty, a
price for beauty.

Speaker 2 (04:59):
Pain is beauty and beauty is pain.
But this is our final episodeof Mylon Ermey's story and I'm
calling it Punk Vampyra, and youshall all see why.
You're not going to see whyright away.
Don't judge me for this titlewithin the first like I don't
know 25 minutes of this podcast,because I feel like we're not
going to get to the point aboutthat yet.

(05:20):
But we will.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
All right Okay.

Speaker 2 (05:26):
All good things come with time.
Yes, that's right.
So all right.
So let's just jump in right towhere we left off when we last
left you, sophie my mother.
Yes, had died um.
She, basically that woman Ithink, worked herself to death I
finally had to quit working.
Yeah, I finally had to leave myjob because my body won't
function anymore.
And now my body just actuallydoesn't function anymore.

(05:46):
That's what you did.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
You know what I feel that yeah I feel that deeply
that you'll work until you dieno, but that my body has
literally, physically stopped mefrom working.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
Oh yeah, you know that, oh my yeah, and I feel
again, I think you're gonnareally I don't wanna, I'm gonna
I'm just gonna hide it for now.
Let's not not jump ahead okay,so two months prior to her death
, to sophie's death, myla hadappeared on queen for a day, and
this is a tv show.
I actually heard about it onanother podcast, okay, um called

(06:18):
classy, which is like aboutclassism in the country, or like
class as a concept, and Queenfor a Day was like an old TV
series in the 50s and 60s, Iwant to say where it was like
they would basically have peopleshow up and like talk about how

(06:38):
terrible their life was, prettymuch to compete for whatever
stupid prize that was to bequeen for a day, because it's
like, oh, look at all these sadpeople.

Speaker 1 (06:43):
That's pretty much what it was the precursor to
reality television.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
Yes day because it's like, oh, look at all these sad
people that's pretty much whatit was like the precursor to
reality television yes, but itwas really gross so like well,
well, and so is reality yeah,yeah yeah, it's true, but, um,
this feels more predatory to mesomehow, because it's like
you'll get a prize, like I don'tknow what kind of prize did she
get I?

Speaker 1 (07:02):
I don't think she.
I think she didn't.
She didn't win queen of the day, she was just on.
I don't actually.

Speaker 2 (07:05):
I think actually she was not on as a contestant, I
think she was just on as, like afeatured guest.
So I think like cause.
I don't have a ton of detailsabout this but yeah she didn't
have to like talk about how muchher life sucked.
I don't so, but Sophie.

(07:26):
The point is that Sophie hadtagged along for the filming and
so for like at one point shegot to see Myla on live
television.
So that was like her littlething to kind of take away from
it, like she kind of got to seeme in character doing my thing,
so that made her feel better.
But basically, like we alsothink, yeah, she worked herself
to death, but it's also theyears of alcohol abuse, um, and

(07:46):
her heart really just gave outthat series called Playhouse 90.

Speaker 1 (07:49):
The Range, yes, where she earned the under five line

(08:13):
rate of 108.50 plus 10%.
You know what that 10% is for?
Tell us, the 10% is for theagent.

Speaker 2 (08:19):
The agent fee.

Speaker 1 (08:20):
Yeah, so she got to collect that herself.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
She got to just take it.
For once it benefited her tonot have an agent that's for one
one job um I mean it would.
It's ten dollars and 85 centsyou're right, she got an extra
10 bucks hey hey, don't spend itall in one place, my love.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
Maybe that might have been gas for two months.
Uh, I don't think she had a car.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
God damn it, Myla.
There's never any mention ofthis woman having a car.

Speaker 1 (08:46):
That's right, just her like rolling around in
what's-his-name's car.
Yeah, in the hearse, in thehearse, yes, yes, yes.

Speaker 2 (08:54):
Yes, so also as Vampyra, she emceed a banquet
for Jack Benny, like I don'tknow.
She just did little gigs hereand there.
Yeah, then the woman whoclaimed to be married to Dink
without actually being married.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
I cannot believe we are still talking about this man
, about Dink, how?

Speaker 2 (09:18):
He is, so she didn't we're talking.
Yeah, there's, you know, Myla,I got to say if you're listening
, I feel like so we're there in.
Yeah, there's, you know, Mila,I got to say if you're listening
.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
I feel like, so we're in, yeah, in the horror heaven
and the horror heavens.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
We love you, but also like the reoccurring characters
of shit men that just they're,you know, speaking of acting
roles and whatnot, their arc istoo long.
They needed to die in the firstepisode they were presented.
So I'm annoyed, but yeah,anyway, dink is pretty much gone
.
I'm just bringing them up tosay Myla, yes.

Speaker 1 (09:52):
Who had claimed to be married, to Dink this whole
time, right?

Speaker 2 (09:56):
Well, not that you know, up until the relationship
ended Right, right, right rightWithout but but she was never
actually married to him um, sheallegedly did actually marry a
man named john brinkley, but itis alleged in the book written
by her niece sandra that we arereferencing exclusively pretty
much she states that they weresecretly allegedly married on

(10:18):
march 10th 1958.
But from the sounds of it johncould have been a lover, but he
also could have been a friendwho was convenient to marry for
whatever reason what kind ofreasons is it convenient to
marry?
I mean, in that day and age.
There could have been a lotmore, because I feel like taxes
living with someone, even if youjust like were trying to share
a space, like you couldn'tunless you were married at that

(10:40):
time like stuff like Stuff, likethat.

Speaker 1 (10:42):
Yeah, okay, it was a different time.
Maybe this was like a lavendermarriage.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
Something I don't know.
Well, there's another one.
Yeah Well, I'm jumping ahead ofmyself.

Speaker 1 (10:52):
Oh my gosh, this is so exciting.
Oh, I really hope it was alavender marriage.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
I know we don't know a ton about this guy, but I like
a lot of the connectionsactually.
So john was a b movie actor, doyou know?

Speaker 1 (11:04):
what do you know what a lavender marriage?

Speaker 2 (11:05):
is yes.
Oh yes, I do.
Should we talk about it?
Let's talk about it.
Let's talk about it for asecond, because, okay, marissa,
you explain.
I do know the listeners mightnot know you're right.
You're absolutely right.
I would listen back on this andbe so annoyed that I didn't
explain it.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
So go ahead okay, so a lavender marriage was when a
gay man and a straight womanmarried each other, knowing full
well that he was gay and shewas straight and there wasn't
going to be like anything sexualor anything.
But they would kind of havethis companionship and all of
the protections and good stuffthat you could have about

(11:39):
marriage and you would basicallylike marry your bestie, yeah,
totally.
Why not marry your bestie?
And like be like in an openmarriage it's like it's very
progressive.
It's very progressive and alsojust very safe I feel like
that's the way to be safe atthat.
Safety in numbers yes.
Safety under the law rightexactly so like somebody can

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suspect something about you.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
Whatever, I'm married I'm married.

Speaker 1 (12:03):
Yeah, what you gonna do about it.
Yeah, what you gonna do aboutit.
I have a fancy lavendermarriage what you gonna do about
it.
I'm just very, very uh, fashionconscious and right yeah, so
and my wife doesn't pick out myclothes?
She sure doesn't, I do it forher, and she and I cuddle all

(12:24):
the time platonically on thecouch that we share and talk
shit about people honestly, we'dmake a great lap.
Yes, we would.
We absolutely would um, okay,so who was john john.

Speaker 2 (12:40):
John was a b-movie actor who had been in several
roger corman movies, and rogercorman was like you know.
If you don't know who he is,he's like a famous John John.
John was a B-movie actor whohad been in several Roger Corman
movies, and Roger Corman waslike you know.
If you don't know who he is,he's like a famous.

Speaker 1 (12:54):
B-movie director.
But I believe, hold on, I wantto just fact check myself right
here.

Speaker 2 (12:56):
Check it, check it, check it.
I believe that Roger Corman wasthe director, slash, auteur of
the original Little Shop ofHorrors, like before it became a
musical.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
yes, and Jack Nicholson was in it oh, wow so I
think he plays one of thepatients for the dentist okay,
yeah, one of his really reallyearly, early, yeah, yeah, so
like so this is, like you know,somewhat legit.
I would say yeah, more the mostlegit man she's ever been with.

Speaker 2 (13:31):
I was the guy who's been in roger corman movies.
But the movies he was in werecalled a bucket of blood and
teenage doll and all of thisseems very on brand for myla
very on brand.
Yes, um, to have any kind ofrelationship with him really,
because his films seem likefilms she would have featured on
her own show years before.
So within a year, milo wasengaged again to a man named

(13:53):
Carlton Carpenter.
She met him at a party, so I'mkind of like I don't know if
they got married, I don't knowwhat happened.
There's very little trail withthis, okay.

Speaker 1 (14:01):
So little to no paper trail yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:05):
All with this.
Okay, so little to no papertrail.
Yeah, all I know really is thatthere's an alleged marriage and
that's just in this book, andso I don't have much more than
that really to back that up Imean if they were married and
divorced, there should be apaper trail.
I'm sure, yeah, maybe they're, Idon't know she might have just
gotten tired because mile had somany journals and she's like,
yes, I'll just read this and Iget it.
I've just been reading yourbook and I'm just kind of like,
damn, what do I choose to talkabout?

Speaker 1 (14:27):
and not because there's a lot Anyway, so.
No, you mean Mila, her niece.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
Her niece Sandra.
Yes, exactly Like it's right,the book about Mila written by
her niece.
Within a year, myla was engagedagain to a man named Carlton
Carpenter.
She met him at a party whereshe was quote champagne drunk
and ready to embarrass thefriends that brought her there.
Myla, writes.

Speaker 1 (14:53):
Now am I going to disgrace them by hanging from
the chandelier by my knees again?
No, here's an arm, I'll hangfrom it.
Hey, catch my feet, he did.
I put my hands on his shoes.
We danced upside down, was I?
He threw me around like abeanbag.

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He was a marvelous dancer.
I'm Carlton Carpenter, he said.
I stepped back a pace andsquinted.
I saw a tall, skinny silhouette.
If you are, it's too good to betrue.
I said.
But I am, then I love you.
I've always loved you damn yeswhat so this?

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is a very whorel whin yes, anupside.
Yes, an upside down dance, anupside down dance.
So, wow, she's very champagnedrunk.

Speaker 2 (15:49):
Yes, so Carlton Carpenter was known for being in
MGM musicals and Myla hadclaimed him as her movie star
crush ever since.
She'd seen him star in TwoWeeks with Love alongside Debbie
Reynolds.
Oh my god.
He performed a song called AbbaDabba Honeymoon, and that's all
it took for Myla to be over themoon.
Wow.

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He was her type, skinny with anAdam's apple.

Speaker 1 (16:13):
And now she'd met him in person With a large Adam's
apple, with a large, it justsounds like you said skinny with
an Adam's apple.
It sounds like you're like.
He was her type A man.
A man, a skinny man he was justa skinny man.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
Yeah, he had a large Adam's apple, and now she'd met
him in person and he literallyswept her off her feet.

Speaker 1 (16:33):
Literally.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
However, myla refused to give him her number right
away when he asked she said Nexttime we found each other, we
love each other.

Speaker 1 (16:44):
Don't be greedy.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
The cheek, the cheek, the confidence.
But he didn't call right awayuntil Milo was working her late
night shift at her job at ananswering service, because
apparently that's what she wasdoing at the start.

Speaker 1 (17:00):
That was her day job.
Slash night job yeah.

Speaker 2 (17:02):
Her co-worker at the answering service had a son who
was best friends with carlton.
So one night he called whileshe was working and for once the
call was actually for myla, buthe'd hung up without asking her
for a date or asking her forher actual phone number.
That's some shit.
I would do.

Speaker 1 (17:19):
Yeah, that's some, that's a game, that's a little
game, that's a oh, or you thinkit's adhd.
I feel like I would have beenlike had such a good
conversation and be like it wasso happy, like, oh, I'm
reconnected, had such a funconversation, hung up and been
like well shit.

Speaker 2 (17:33):
I missed the whole point of that.

Speaker 1 (17:34):
I missed the whole point of that and I can't call
back right away.

Speaker 2 (17:45):
Yeah, now I, I got to play, so I think that that
might have been.
Maybe that's what was going on,Maybe Because a few weeks later
they saw each other at a dinnerparty and he sweet talked her
but still made no offer of adate.
He is playing games yes orasked for her phone number.
Quit playing games with myheart, Mr Carlton.
But somehow he acquired itanyway and called to take her
out officially.
They went to the keyboard clubto see one of Carlton's friends

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sing, because he's a musicaltheater guy, of course he's got
a bunch of friends who can singand they held hands the whole
time.
Cuties, yes, a mutual friendwas there that night and asked
Do I hear wedding bells for youtoo?

Speaker 1 (18:23):
Carlton asked Myla, are you still with John Brinkley
?
Myla said no, then there's noreason why we can't.

Speaker 2 (18:31):
And again Myla said no.
All she said was no.
And yet the next day Myla'sengagement was announced in
Harrison Carroll's column.

Speaker 1 (18:41):
I don't know what that is.

Speaker 2 (18:43):
I don't either, but he was a popular columnist at
the time.
Okay, well, it didn't actuallysay that Carlton would be
marrying Myla.
It said he'd be marryingVampyra Cause every single every
single thing about her thatgets published is like.
It's not Myla Nermy, it'sVampyra.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
Like.

Speaker 2 (19:00):
I'm surprised anyone.
I don't think most people doknow her name, because everyone
just thinks at that time.
Anyway, nobody even knows thatnow, but you should by now.
You should by now becauseyou're listening to this show.
That's right, but they appearto be very much in love In true
Los Angeles fashion.

Speaker 1 (19:21):
Carlton hired an astrologer to do their charts
and see if they were compatible.
Wow.

Speaker 2 (19:25):
I know Wow I know, know.

Speaker 1 (19:26):
It truly has never gone out of fashion.

Speaker 2 (19:28):
It's always been there it's always been so heavy
what a heavy part of los angelesculture, I know my, I know god
I know.
I wonder how much money hespent on it.
I wonder what the inflationrate on.
That is Probably a lot.
They agreed to name theirfuture daughter Clancy
Interesting choice.

Speaker 1 (19:49):
That's a cool name, you think so I like it.

Speaker 2 (19:51):
Okay, I think it sounds like an old man.

Speaker 1 (19:54):
Yeah, that's kind of why I like it.

Speaker 2 (19:56):
I mean, I would name my cat Clancy.

Speaker 1 (19:58):
Yeah, my cat baby.

Speaker 2 (20:02):
Your cat baby.
It's a dog named Clancy.
I like a dog named Clancy.

Speaker 1 (20:06):
Oh, you heard it here first, folks.
You can take that for your list.
I like it.
That's a cool name.

Speaker 2 (20:13):
So they were cool, they were with it, they were
like we're going to be unique.

Speaker 1 (20:16):
Wow, they like.
Oh my God, they're alreadytalking about baby names, baby
names.

Speaker 2 (20:21):
Yes, baby names, baby names.
Yes, they're in love.
He cooked for her.
He tried to impress her bytaking her to a private
screening of his film FearlessFagin, in which his co-star was
a lion Whoa.
He wanted her to know he wasbrave yes, but a former friend
of Myla's, on whom she'd alwayshad a crush, got in the way.
It was Anthony Perkins, myla,anthony Perkins.

(20:49):
The way.
It was anthony perkins, myla,anthony perkins.
The friend who was, uh, normanbates in psycho, that's who that
is.
Yeah, we brought him up brieflybefore, but like, yes, she was
right friends with him as well,but she did have a crush on him.
She had a crush yeah, becausehe's also skinny with a large
adam's apple.
So she do have a type.
She got type because he's alsoskinny with a L'Arche Adams
apple.
She do have a type.
She got a type.
He had become a very goodfriend to Myla's fiance and now

(21:11):
that Myla knew Tony AnthonyPerkins was gay, she thought he
was trying to steal her man.
So she and Carlton got in afight and she called him a pig
and then he responded by no, nothomophobia, not homophobia, no.

Speaker 1 (21:29):
But she.
Just because someone's gaydoesn't mean that they're trying
to get with, you know.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
But like I think the thing is.
I think it was probably alittle friend jealousy too, to
be honest, because like he wassuch a he was kind of like a
dick to her.
We didn't really get into thatthat much, but he was just kind
of like, oh, he was a dick toher and he got close to his.
I don't know if he was such a Idon't know if he was a dick to
her or if she just really didn'tknow he was gay, and stuff felt

(21:56):
like an advance sometimes whenit wasn't.
You know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (21:59):
Oh, or like she tried .
Or she tried to hit on him andyeah, like rebuffed her.

Speaker 2 (22:03):
Yes, and then he would like kind of only be
interested in her.
He was a little bit of like afame, you know, didn't, didn't
feel like there's anything totalk about unless you like, had
a job that felt like it couldelevate him and if and he didn't
even want to take her places if, like, he felt like it was an
important party and stuff likethat you know, he was a little,
a little gross a little gross.
So I think she's kind of justdoesn't trust him.

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So I do kind of want to giveher the benefit of the doubt.

Speaker 1 (22:27):
Okay, okay, you know, let's give it to her.
I don't think she is homophobic.
I feel like she's a.

Speaker 2 (22:31):
She's a counterculture queen that's true
, that's true.

Speaker 1 (22:35):
Hate she, she screams ally, yes, so I think.

Speaker 2 (22:39):
I think she's just like fuck you, I know you and
you're, you got something goingon right, because you kind of
fucked me over before okay so,um, she thought he was trying to
steal her man, so and also likeprobably him hanging around
more when he was kind of likebuffing her off for a while and
then he's all round, all thetime.

Speaker 1 (22:54):
All of a sudden, she's like you know what?
What the fuck?
Yeah, you know what?
Yeah, what the fuck yeah.
But she instead of yeah,instead of talking to him about
it, she just got she got into afight with her fiance yeah and
called him a pig.

Speaker 2 (23:08):
And then he responded by giving her a case of cat
food wrapped up like a presenton Christmas morning.
And his note read from yourfriendly neighborhood piglet
damn it sounds to me like he wastrying to be like.
I feel like that sounds likesome sort of like attempt at
being a cute end to an argumentLike oh like look at I can be.

Speaker 1 (23:28):
Yeah, also, she has cat food.
Yeah, she has cats, so it's agift for her.
Her beloved cats who weestablished she.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
She gave up a gig with Liberace to feed To Exactly
.

Speaker 1 (23:41):
Yes so.

Speaker 2 (23:47):
So he's feeding them, so he's feeding her beloved.
There's a way, there's otherways to look at this, myla.
Yeah, that's what we're tryingto say.

Speaker 1 (23:51):
Um, so myla was pissed and she writes he was a
millionaire and here I waspractically starving to death.
And for christmas he bought mea case of cat food.
The whores get the furs andsports cars.
Me I get water pistols, jewelrymade from plumbing parts and

(24:12):
cat food I want to know who gaveher the water?

Speaker 2 (24:16):
I want to know too plumbing parts, because I'm like
that's not something you justmake up.
No, that's very specific very,very, but we have no reference
for those things, but my God,those sound like bigger offenses
in my opinion.
So she wrote him her own note.

Speaker 1 (24:33):
You and I were deliriously happy until Sinbad
Perkins her new nickname forTony cruised himself into your
heart and stole you away from me.
It's just as well, love.
You needed somebody tall.
When you speak of me and youwill speak of me, you can say

(24:54):
that Vampyra is playing nightlywith herself at Bailey's.

Speaker 2 (24:58):
Lounge.
I think Bailey's Lounge waslike their spot, so I don't know
if she's trying to.
That sounds like a masturbation.
I know I don't know, I wouldn'tput.
It was like their spot, so Idon't know if she's trying to.
That sounds like a masturbation.
I know, I don't know, Iwouldn't put it past her.

Speaker 1 (25:09):
Yeah, like it's a double entendre, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (25:11):
She's always speaking in double entendre.

Speaker 1 (25:13):
To me, that's what it sounds like.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
Yeah, so to hell with love and back to focusing on
her career.
So how short-lived with thiswas this were whole wind were
home.

Speaker 1 (25:28):
Uh, I would say like six months yeah brutal, yeah,
something like that.

Speaker 2 (25:29):
It wasn't that long um.

Speaker 1 (25:31):
So she's focusing back up on her career, but what
career?

Speaker 2 (25:35):
oh god.
Well, milo was still seekingacting work at this time and
still getting some in 1958.
She had an unaccredited role inthe 1958 film Too Much, too
Soon starring Errol Flynn.

Speaker 1 (25:48):
Her line was we're almost out of ham sandwiches.

Speaker 2 (25:56):
Which I love, Love that Perfect.
She followed up with someB-movie work for producer Albert
Zugsmith.
He wanted name recognition, soonce again she was billed as
Vampyra and not Myla Nurmi.
She played a beatnik in hisfilm the Beat Generation and for
once you see her performing outof her vampire garb.

Speaker 1 (26:15):
I have a question yeah, what's a beatnik?

Speaker 2 (26:18):
You don't know what a beatnik is.
No, it's like in the 50s yeah,in the 50s and maybe early 60s,
when people were.
It's like the black turtleneckberet, like speaking, like you
know, poetry over, yeah, kind of, but like within, with like a
drum beat and kind of likefeeling your, yeah, it's
scatting and that kind of shit,okay, okay.

Speaker 1 (26:39):
And if I'm, if I'm being too, it's like jazz poets.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
Yeah, yeah, I feel like I had like a whole album of
like I thought you were goingto say phase.

Speaker 1 (26:53):
I had a whole phase in high school.

Speaker 2 (26:58):
But no, I it was more like.
It was more like I don't know.
I just had an album of likethese old recordings of beatniks
and it's kind of it's like,yeah, it's, I don't know, it's
it's.
It's kind of it's like, yeah,it's, I don't know, it's, it's
the jack kerouac time and peopleyou know doing their, doing
their, that was their, that wasthe, the, the open mic of the
time.
Okay, you know all right, um,so, and if I'm explaining that
wrong, somebody comment, tell methat I suck, leave more
messages, tell us what's goingon.

(27:19):
Yes, we see you listening.
Say, say something.
Okay, if you hear something,say something.
Yeah, you're hearing a lot, myGod, all right.
So she played a beatnik in thisfilm.
It was called the BeatGeneration and for once, you can
see her performing out of hervampire garb In the film.
Her hair is blonde and cropped,as it was in her day-to-day
life, and she wears a sweaterand jeans as she recites a poem

(27:43):
with a rat on her shoulder andsmokes a cigarette.
This is so cool, I know.
Wait, hold on, I've got apicture.
Yes, I've got a picture.
I don't think I have arecording, but I do have a
picture.

Speaker 1 (27:55):
Oh my God, it's so cool.
And hold on the rat.
It looks like he's just likeperched on her shoulder.
It looks like he's singing yeah, he's like the toto of this
episode oh my god, the, the, shelooks so good and this rat
looks so cute.

(28:16):
Yeah, and she's just likesmoking a cigarette.
Yeah, I've got it.

Speaker 2 (28:20):
I've got a whole, all the pictures from everything I
gotta post like we're gonna do awhole mile of thing, um, but
yes, the the rat does look like.
It's like singing on hershoulder, oh, so good, and the
smoke is obscuring this.
But, um, this is the point intime we're going to talk about
it.
But, like, her teeth arestarting to look a little wonky,
like starting from this clip onum this, she's getting their

(28:41):
signs of maybe some healthwhatever way, because from the
not eating.
Yeah, Like she's malnutritionman is happening.
So she also played a shopkeeperin the big operator with Mickey
Rooney, and then she played acomputer lab assistant in an
exploitation film called sexkittens Go to college.

(29:01):
That also starred bridgetbardot's little sister, mija new
.
Oh, my god, oh.
And I said here yeah, she looksemaciated and like her teeth
are decaying.

Speaker 1 (29:10):
It's like both of these things like it's like
starting to be a thing, oh so.

Speaker 2 (29:14):
Um.
Then she had another chance toperform with liberace.
I forgot about this until Isang it out.

Speaker 1 (29:20):
No, she had another chance to perform with liberace.

Speaker 2 (29:22):
I forgot about this until I sang it out.
She had another chance toperform with Liberace and was
booked to appear with him for 16weeks in London.
A dream, yes.

Speaker 1 (29:29):
Your dream, my dream.
Yes, including the Liberacepart.
Yep.

Speaker 2 (29:37):
But just as it was with Broadway, she did not go.
No, Myla.
I know it's like a secondchance that you don't take.
It's so frustrating to seesomebody not take a second
chance, like oh, what are youdoing?
So her niece, sandra Niemi, theauthor of this book, thinks
this was likely because she wasbeginning to struggle with her

(30:00):
health, as we're seeing signs,but the reasons are not actually
known.
It's sad to know that insteadof performing glamorously with
liberace in london, she hadtaken to cleaning the homes of
her friends for 99 cents an hourto make ends meet.
Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (30:15):
She writes maybe that's what I was meant to be a
charwoman like my mother.
I am the daughter of Sophia,the Finnish chambermaid, the
cleaner of Marlena Dietrich'stoilet bowl.
Elizabeth's bowl have no ring,they exclaimed in Beverly Hills
and Brentwood.

(30:35):
Elizabeth was my housecleaningname and it was true no rings.
I cleaned the infamousHollywood whorehouse.
It was very popular with the incrowd.
A famous band leader, slashactor, married to a top TV
redheaded comedian, used toarrive in his limo, have a girl

(30:56):
and then go off into the night.
He was a $100 customer.

Speaker 2 (31:02):
So I like that.
She's like trying to hide DesiArnaz's.

Speaker 1 (31:06):
I was just going to say that's Desi.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
Arnaz yeah, she's trying to hide his identity in
her journal.
It's like you can just say it.

Speaker 1 (31:12):
Yeah, you know.

Speaker 2 (31:13):
I mean it's being published now, of course, but
like but we know who she'stalking about.
We know who you're talkingabout, you're being very clear.
But her ringless toilet bowlswere not keeping her afloat.
But the ring that came with amarriage of convenience did, for
a time Italian actor Anotherone.
Another one Italian actor,fabrizio Mioni, was looking to

(31:34):
stay in America to continue hiscareer and needed to be married
to do so.
See, this is when marriage isconvenient.

Speaker 1 (31:40):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (31:41):
Yes, it helps him reach his goals.
Myla found out about it from afriend and stepped up to the
plate in exchange for a monthlystipend.
Okay, Fabrizio said Pay me tobe your wife.
That's right, that's what I'mtalking about.
She's like where can I makesome money?
She was hustling for a longlong time, damn so.

(32:07):
Um fabrizio said before Imarried her I was so excited to
see what you did with those andyou didn't disappoint keep going
, keep going.

Speaker 1 (32:13):
Before I married her, I had stop it, stop it, stop it
, stop it, stop it, don't lookat me, don't look at me.
Before I married her, I had toclean her up.
She was a mess.
I paid for her new clothes anda full beauty salon treatment

(32:38):
head to, because I knew therewould be press Hire.
Marissa for all of your Italianaccent work needs.

Speaker 2 (32:50):
That was terrible.
It was so bad and I loved everysecond of it.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
I loved it so much.
Oh my God, I loved it.
I want to see if I can dobetter.

Speaker 2 (32:58):
Hold on, no, oh my God, how can you do better than
being that bad you guys?

Speaker 1 (33:03):
can't even see it, but I'm doing a gesture with my
hand too at the same time.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
Oh, she's got the full Italian hand, it's bad.
It's really bad, am I?

Speaker 1 (33:12):
ashamed.
Okay, hold on, let me see.
Before I married her, I had toclean her up.
No, fuck it.
No, I can't, I can't, it'sgonna.
You did it.

Speaker 2 (33:24):
You did it, it was great.
I did it.
It's done and.

Speaker 1 (33:27):
I'm sorry, I loved it so much.
Let's just, let's just keep inmind, guys.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
I thought you were gonna say let's just cut this.

Speaker 1 (33:36):
And I was like no, no , no, just keep in mind audience
, please.
This is the first time I'mreading this.
My context clues are he isfresh off the boat and needing a
green card marriage, so do notcome for me please, oh my.

Speaker 2 (34:01):
God, I love it.
It's a whole show is like doinga prank on you.
It's so good anyway.
So on june 20th 1961, mylabecame myla elizabeth mioni
that's beautiful.
It's kind of beautiful,beautiful and immediately mioni

(34:21):
I'm sorry, you're right, Ishould have deferred to you
that's right.

Speaker 1 (34:26):
You should have.
Italians are gonna come burn meat this stake.
No, no, no I love it.

Speaker 2 (34:35):
So on June 20th 1961 Mila became Mila, elizabeth
Mione, that's correct.
Keep going, thank you.
And immediately after theceremony both she and Fabrizio
went back to their separatehomes to live their separate
lives.
Wow, very lavender marriage-ishVery.
But Mila kept the last nameMione for the rest of her life.

Speaker 1 (34:58):
I mean it was cute.
It's cute.
It's also like and it's Mionefor the rest of her life.
I mean it was cute.

Speaker 2 (35:01):
It's cute.
It's also like and it's Mione,mione, I'm so sorry, you're
right.
You're right.
There was a little hand gesturewith that, mione.
That's what I missed the firsttime, mione, there was a hand
gesture.
There was a hand gesture.
I can't talk, oh God.

Speaker 1 (35:19):
God.

Speaker 2 (35:19):
You know the Italian hand gesture?
Yeah, they talk with theirhands.

Speaker 1 (35:22):
Listen, the Italians and the Puerto Ricans is very
close.

Speaker 2 (35:25):
It's very close.
Okay, there you go, yeah.

Speaker 1 (35:28):
So it was in me, it was in me, it was in me.

Speaker 2 (35:32):
Oh my God.
Myla moved again to a newapartment and regularly filled
her home with circus acrobatsdrugged out painters, hustlers
and any other misfits thathappened to be around.
All right, she had built anunstable, flop house of cards
and it was about to collapse,Ay-yi-yi.
In 1962, she found out that herfather had died.

(35:54):
She could not attend thefuneral and mourned his death
alone, without the consolationof family members or real
friends I wonder why shecouldn't attend.

Speaker 1 (36:04):
Was she gonna afford to travel there, or uh?
I think so yeah, I think shewas very broke for a long time
and I think this was in thismoment.

Speaker 2 (36:12):
I mean, she's cleaning houses for 99 hour.
So her stepmother inherited allof her father's money, so that
did her no financial favors.
And then in 1964 she grantedfabrizio mioni a divorce with a
final payout of a hundreddollars to her, and then the
phony friends disappeared andmyla was alone for a while there

(36:35):
.

Speaker 1 (36:36):
I thought I was ninas , what I don't know, but you
have to say it, I don't knowwhat this is, ninos de.

Speaker 2 (36:46):
Leenclos reincarnate.
Let's look it up.

Speaker 1 (36:50):
French.

Speaker 2 (36:50):
Italian Ninon is what it says, so I think she didn't
spell it right in her journal,but it's Ninon de Leenclos, I
think it might be french andninon de enclo also spelled yeah
, yeah yeah, no was a frenchauthor, courtesan and patron of

(37:12):
the arts okay, okay, yeah, so Ithink she had like a salon of
sorts.
Right, yeah, okay for.

Speaker 1 (37:19):
Okay, for a while there I thought I was Ninon de
Lincolne, reincarnate, opened upmy wings and let the young
chicks nuzzle in my down.
Ninon de Lincolne no more.
No more actress, no more gypsy.
I sit quietly at 40.
No more noses under my wing.

(37:41):
The down wore away.
I sit quietly at 40, no morenoses under my wing, the down
wore away.
In 1953, I went to a masqueradeparty and the costume I wore
stuck to me.
I was a professional vampire orsomething.
For 11 years I tried to scrapeit off, peel it off, burn it off

(38:08):
with acid.

Speaker 2 (38:10):
Finally I gave up trying.
Yeah, so sad she was just likethis is who I've become.

Speaker 1 (38:15):
I cannot escape it?
Yeah, because it's like there'speople at this point aren't
sticking.
She's all alone, yeah, with hercharacter that she created.

Speaker 2 (38:26):
Yeah, and it's like it's not, it hasn't served her.
It's like feeling like a curse.
I think is what I'm hearingfrom that In 1965, when she had
finished a hard day of cleaninghouses, she returned home to
find a familiar face waiting forher on her stoop.
It was Chuck the Fuck Beatles.
Another one of these fuckingmen Dink and Chuck.

(38:47):
They're just circling aroundshowing up again.

Speaker 1 (38:50):
They always come back , they always come back, they
always circle back around,although he wasn't so familiar
looking anymore.

Speaker 2 (39:01):
It had been eight years and he had changed.

Speaker 1 (39:05):
He stunned me.
A Republican crew cut killereyes, fascistic looking.
He wore a gray business suitand a wristwatch.
He looked like he ownedslaughterhouses and he had a car
, a red one.

Speaker 2 (39:23):
He said he would love her, protect her and never
again abandon her.
And she bought it hook line andsinker girl and sinker he's
gonna sink you myla, oh my gosh.

Speaker 1 (39:37):
But I mean if you're in dire straits.

Speaker 2 (39:40):
Yeah, she's in a low.
He caught her in the rightmoment.

Speaker 1 (39:43):
Yeah, she caught her in a low and he had all of these
things to show her.
Oh, yeah, that he had money andshe needed it.

Speaker 2 (39:53):
And she needed it and I think it grossed her out, but
she also needed it.

Speaker 1 (39:56):
That's what I'm hearing.

Speaker 2 (39:57):
Like ugh, a red car, but also where did you get the
money for the car?
Hearing like a red car, butalso where did you get the money
for the car?
You know, they reunited andhatched a plan to capitalize on
the influx of shops that werepopping up around myla's
apartment on melrose ave.
Her place was on the groundfloor and had a large front
window, so they decided to turnit into a store by day and
living quarters by night.

(40:17):
Chuck sold his flashy car to doso, okay, and then he put the
money into the business.
They were working on ittogether and for a time Milo was
very happy.
They called it Sheer Madness,object Deart, which is a
terrible business name.
But the business didn't do well.

(40:37):
Surprise, surprise, and Chuckwent back to his old shitty ways
.
He started stealing items fromother stores and brazenly wanted
to sell them in their own store.
Oh my God, what an idiot.
Yep.
And soon became it.
Soon became apparent to Mylathat Chuck hadn't changed at all
.
Actually, he had been stealingfor quite some time at this
point to support a growing drughabit.

Speaker 1 (40:58):
Again yes, I mean it never stopped.

Speaker 2 (41:01):
Yes, I mean, it never stopped.
Yes, he wore his hairconservatively and flashed his
expensive stolen watch to makeit appear that he'd had money so
he would never be suspected,myla said I felt deeply defiled.

Speaker 1 (41:14):
He didn't know me from gutter people.
I didn't know how to steal,screw or push dope for a living
and I wasn't about to learn.
I didn't know how to steal,screw or push dope for a living
and I wasn't about to learnIntegrity.
That's right.
She like never Her teethweren't falling out because of
meth people.

Speaker 2 (41:28):
Yeah, that's right, let's just say that.
Let's just say that, yeah, shehad her lines that she would not
cross.
So she was scared of him andwanted him to leave.
So she barricaded herself inthe bathroom and refused to come
out for days.
Uh, he finally flushed hisstash down the toilet and agreed
to get clean by heading to aplace called the church of

(41:49):
synanon.
Have you heard of synanon?

Speaker 1 (41:52):
no, is this?
It's a.
Is this a cult?
Yes, it's a cult.
So now, yeah, if you have achurch of scientology and the
church of synanon sound oddlysimilar.

Speaker 2 (42:03):
Every time I hear about it, though, I always think
of Cinnabon, and I'm like Iwould join, just because it
sounds like.

Speaker 1 (42:10):
Another cult you would easily get.

Speaker 2 (42:12):
I would easily join All you'd have to do is say it's
called Cinnanon and I would say, can I have a Cinnabon then?
And they'd say yes, and I'd say, all right, I'll come inside.
Yeah, sure, sure, sounds good,smells good in here, smells
great, yeah.
So it was a cult.
They touted themselves as adrug rehab clinic run by former
alcoholic Charles Diederich by1965, it was less of a rehab and

(42:33):
more of junkies helping otherjunkies overcome addictions like
that kind of situation.
But they also all shaved theirheads at one point, were forced
into relationships with people.
You know it's a bigger rabbithole than we have time for right
now.
To be frank, um, because thisis not his story.
It's not his story and also,yeah, like it's just a whole

(42:55):
that.
That's a whole thing.
People do all entire podcastsabout synodon, so go listen to
them.
You can go down the rabbit holefrom here.
But Chuck went there, so we'resaying that and he didn't even
stay because he said it was allbullshit and bad vibes and
honestly, from everything I'veheard, he was probably right,
but also from everything I knowabout Chuck, he couldn't have

(43:15):
found a spot he deserved to beat more.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (43:22):
But also for him to say that it was.
That means that it was reallybad.

Speaker 2 (43:26):
Yeah, it was weird.
It was a cult.
So Myla didn't know what to dowhen he came back.
I don't think she wanted him tocome back, but all she knew was
that she needed him to be gone.
So she simply lied and said thecops are here looking for you,
without knowing if he'd actuallydone anything, but she had a

(43:49):
pretty good hunch.

Speaker 1 (43:49):
He immediately panicked and started packing,
saying I'm sick, oh, I'm sick.
I can't tell you what's wrong,but it's the worst thing that
could be.

Speaker 2 (43:55):
Pray for me, and then he drove off.

Speaker 1 (44:00):
He just drove off oh my god, so clearly whatever he
did was real fucked, real fuckso he drove off.
So you think?
What do you think?

Speaker 2 (44:09):
I don't know I really don't know.
I mean like if it's a if it'sthe worst thing when I killed
someone is the worst thing Ithink, I think, kid, kid stuff
really.
Yes, oh shit, my brain didn'teven go there.
That, to me, is worse.
I'm gonna say something that Ifeel like I don't know if this

(44:30):
is true or not, and I'm sad ifit is, but I feel like I don't
know how many people got caughtfor that kind of thing back then
oh yeah exactly, but I don'teven know how much they
prosecuted people for it.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I could be wrong.
I could be really wrong aboutthat.

Speaker 1 (44:48):
I just I hope you're wrong.

Speaker 2 (44:49):
I really hope I'm right, but I don't, but I
believe it I yeah yeah, I it's.
I mean it's, but that's why I'mkind of like was it in his head?
The worst thing, because tome's a selfish piece of shit.
So I think the worst thingwould be something that's going
to put him in jail for a reallylong time, like selling a kid
for drugs Damn or access to kids.

(45:09):
You take so many acting classesand you can tell.
Like your worst case scenarioimagination is very strong.
Mine is weekend because I'mtrying to protect myself from
all the shit that's, you can'tthink about that you can't think
about that shit you thinkmurder, I think I think sex
trafficking they're both reallybad.

(45:30):
Something really bad.
He did something really bad, sohe drove off, he wrote letters,
he sent money for a time andthen you know, he didn't anymore
and that was the end of that.
Yet another disappointment inthe form of a man.

Speaker 1 (45:41):
At least she didn't marry him.

Speaker 2 (45:43):
Oh yeah, for sure, at least she didn't legally.
No, no, no If if she evenmarried either one of those guys
.
I mean, I guess you did marryFabrizio, like, and then I don't
know if we met she married theother don't feel like marriage

(46:03):
or marriages don't feel like theworst thing.
They don't they weren't thethings that are legal marriages.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, not the dinkmarriage was a you know?
Yeah, that was a whatever thatwas like we're, we're, we're
married in spirit dumb um.
So she reopened her shop afterhe'd left and renamed it
vampire's Much better name.
But she never reopened herheart.
She was 42 and she decided toremain celibate for the rest of

(46:25):
her life.
From that point on.

Speaker 1 (46:27):
No, you, no you don't .

Speaker 2 (46:32):
Oh, no, girl.
And I really do feel likeyou'll see, in the story she
just, it's almost like this isthe turning point, like to me,
that's like these love sickstories of like you know, she's
in these relationships and she'sstill kind of being young, and
then I just feel like she getsold.
This is like the part where shejust gets old.
Yeah, happens real fast Inheart, spirit and body, mind and

(46:53):
body.
Yeah.
So, and for a time she'd haveto close up her shop as well.
Not because of money.
It was because Myla wasdiagnosed with pernicious anemia
.
She had finally sought the helpof a doctor after feeling like
her legs were weighed down withlead and she could hardly lift
them or walk or get out of bed.
And pernicious anemia isbasically caused by malnutrition

(47:17):
.
And Myla had to get regular B12shots, stay hospitalized in a
rehabilitation center for 15weeks and retrain herself to
walk.
Damn, she had nothing but timeon her hands while she was
bedridden, so she wrote poemslike this one.

Speaker 1 (47:34):
The patience of Job I must now elicit to keep tidy
this bed and try not to piss it.

Speaker 2 (47:44):
So she's done.
Is that the hammer?
Her teeth, again, were not in agood state from the dearth of
nutrition in her life.
They were just colored and someof them were even falling out
at this point, yikes.
As for the pernicious anemia,Sandra Niemi thinks that her
condition was indeed caused bymalnutrition, but also that
displacing her organs bycinching her waist down to

(48:05):
nothing probably didn't help hercause.

Speaker 1 (48:09):
Yeah, I'm going to say that didn't move the needle
in the positive direction.

Speaker 2 (48:13):
Yeah, it just moved her organs around, which is
something you probably shouldn'tdo.
Yeah, which is what happensduring pregnancy, which is so
weird.
Your organs move around,strange, gross.
Yeah, it was not a funsituation, of course, but there
was one perk milo was nowreceiving disability income, so
she had regular money coming inthat she could rely on.

Speaker 1 (48:34):
Okay, yep all it takes is your teeth falling out,
your inability to walk out ofthis.
So she's getting.
She's getting some disabilitycheck.
She's getting some help fromthe government yeah, as she
limps along.

Speaker 2 (48:50):
And so out of this dim period came a bright one and
a new alter ego for Milo.
Ooh, a reinvention, areinvention.
So we're not Elizabeth thecleaning lady with her ringless
toilets anymore.
No, now her street, melrose Ave, had become a bustle of outdoor
markets and swap meets, andstill is a bustle of outdoor
markets and swap meets and stillis.
And still is yeah To this day.
And Myla joined in as anentirely new version of herself.

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She was known by other streetvendors as Melrose Rose, the
curator of crap, withdistinction, yes, her brand of
crap in particular was thriftedclothes, and vendors and
customers alike befriended her.
Not for nothing, myla hadregulars at her table, regulars

(49:32):
like shelly winters.
Shelly winters pops up againshe's in like every episode.
She's our little easter egg.
We should like this should be adrinking game if shelly winters
shows up in an episode Take asip.
And even Carol Burnett.
Nice yeah, she was earningmoney and happier than she'd
been in a long time.

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But the popularity of MelroseAve had caused rents to spike,
of course, of course, and Milasoon had to move over to the
less desirable East Hollywoodneighborhood, which I think is
still less desirable.

Speaker 1 (50:08):
Now, that didn't really.
That also hasn't changed, thathasn't changed either?

Speaker 2 (50:12):
yeah, she found a little Mexican restaurant in her
new neighborhood and drankcoffee there every day.
I feel like she was that person.

Speaker 1 (50:19):
She had to find her place for her coffee every day.

Speaker 2 (50:21):
And when the owner of the shop, Hilda Alvarez,
finally asked her name, she toldher she was Helen Heaven.
So another quiet alternateidentity was born.

Speaker 1 (50:33):
Yeah, helen, heaven Helen.

Speaker 2 (50:34):
Heaven.
I love how she and you just Iknow she came out with that on
the fly.

Speaker 1 (50:37):
Oh yeah, I didn't think about that at all.
One hundred percent, but shelike stuck to it.

Speaker 2 (50:40):
That woman knew her as Helen.
Oh my God, yeah, this is likeyou going into like clothing
stores with a british accent.
Oh yeah, pretend like coming upwith an entire job for yourself
.
You told me you did that and Iwasn't even with you in person.
I was so embarrassed first ofall.

Speaker 1 (51:03):
first of all, it was when I was waiting tables and
super bored I didn't go intoother establishments.

Speaker 2 (51:11):
I pictured you like hunting through a clothing rack,
just like maybe I have donethat I feel like you did, I'm
pretty sure that I did.
That didn't just come into mymind.
You said that.

Speaker 1 (51:20):
Guys, I have an overactive imagination and I get
bored very easily, okay, You'rejust an actor.

Speaker 2 (51:29):
Just call it what it is.

Speaker 1 (51:30):
You're just an actor who's sometimes an annoying
actor Sometimes.

Speaker 2 (51:36):
Most of the time, most of the time, myla or Helen
and Hilda became friends Cute,yeah, they were friends.
She helped her clean up therestaurant for free meals and
she watched her children andbecame like a surrogate
grandmother to them.

Speaker 1 (51:51):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 2 (51:53):
Because English wasn't Hilda's first language,
so she could like kind of help.

Speaker 1 (51:57):
Yeah, facilitate.

Speaker 2 (51:58):
Yeah, and for the kids especially like for that
part of their schoolwork, andstuff.
So she was very helpful to them.
That's really sweet.

Speaker 1 (52:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (52:07):
And Marlon Brando was still in the picture.

Speaker 1 (52:10):
Marlon Brando yeah, he's still there.

Speaker 2 (52:12):
Hilda attests that she saw him come by and drop off
checks for Myla.
He had wanted to help her withliving expenses, but also he was
trying to make sure she coulddefend her intellectual property
legally.
Wow, because Myla may have beenahead of her time in the
creation of Vampyra, but now thepublic was hungry for a little

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Vampyra in their lives and theexploitation of her intellectual
property had begun, at least inMyla's eyes.
She often told Marlon they werequote picking my bones.
There was a movie that wasreleased called Old Dracula,
with a character named CountessVampyra, and originally that
movie was called Vampyra, butthen they were trying to like

(52:54):
capitalize on other Draculapopularity.
That film was just like a let'slike ride the gravy train or
some other shit.
And then the characters likekind of styled after her.
They kept the name the same.
And then the Addams Family TVshow came out around this time
and Miley was convinced that thecharacter of Morticia was based
more off of Vampyra than ChazAddams original creation.

(53:17):
So, and I don't.
I've we looked at pictures ofthat.
It's like, yes, there wasn'tlike a bunch of cleavage and
like the voluptuousness in theoriginal comic.
She was kind of like emaciatedlooking.
But I don't know, I'm not surewhat I think about that one.
To be honest, it's weird and Iguess part of it is that I think
I was familiar with Morticia inmy head before being familiar

(53:41):
with Vampire.
It's just a little backflip mybrain is doing on that.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (53:46):
I believe it.
100, you believe it 100.

Speaker 2 (53:48):
Yeah, yeah, myla had tried to alter her vampire getup
so as to create something newand different and not rip off
charles adams work, but theworld of tv knows no such bounds
.
So they, you know, definitelylike they.
They definitely ripped off somestyle notes from her, at the
very least.
She also felt that Natasha, thespy cartoon from Rocky and Bo.

(54:12):
Winkle was based off of her.

Speaker 1 (54:14):
And that.

Speaker 2 (54:15):
Disney had used her likeness in Cruella de Vil.
I don't know if I see Cruellade Vil, to be honest.

Speaker 1 (54:21):
I don't think I see that one.
No, Just like the cheekbonesemaciated thing, yeah, yeah, and
like the cheekbones emaciated,yeah, yeah thing.

Speaker 2 (54:28):
and like the cheekbones but I feel like
cruella de vil is, like she'smyla's, a very beautiful woman.
I feel like cruella de vil islike emaciated in an ugly way
and like it looks, like her noseis like she had a bad
rhinoplasty yeah, it's kind oflike a piggy, like a piggy nose,
it's like very upturned, but inan ugly way.
Yeah, so I don't know if I seethat one.

(54:49):
And that's a compliment to you,Myla, that's right baby.

Speaker 1 (54:52):
Yeah, so anyway, I can see the rocking boat, but I
mean Natasha, did she have?

Speaker 2 (54:56):
red hair.

Speaker 1 (54:57):
No, she had black hair Okay.
Yeah, they couldn't even changethe hair color.
Why do I feel like she had redhair?
I think that was red outfit.

Speaker 2 (55:08):
Yeah, no, she had black hair.
Okay, yeah, I see it, I see it.
Yeah, the eyebrows inparticular.
The eyebrows, the face shapeactually and yeah, I see that
one, that one's I forgot whatshe looked like.
To be honest with you, that's,that's, that's pretty pretty

(55:29):
close.
Yeah, she kind of has like1940s bangs that are different,
but other than that, yeah, sointeresting, um, yes, but also
it's like a weird thing becauseyou know that, like she took
some inspiration from somethingand made something else out of
it and like how is that anydifferent?

Speaker 1 (55:40):
right, you know what I mean.
So when is it inspiration?
When is it?
Is it um forgery or whateverstealing, yeah?

Speaker 2 (55:48):
yeah, soon her connection to marlin sputtered
out, and so did his funding.
What happened, I don't know.
I think he just probably gotdistracted.
He seems like that type ofperson, yeah or he's like onto
his busy little either busy orthinking that what did we talk
about?
Like that, alfred alfredeinstein was like talking to him
from the grave, like you forgotabout this part.

(56:11):
Yes, I did forget about this,yeah yeah, yeah, he like had a
whole thing that he thought hewas like telling him stuff from
the grave.
Okay, bro, yeah, so I think hejust you know, yeah, a little
distracted sometimes okay milehad no bed, no furniture except
for plastic chairs and noelectricity.

Speaker 1 (56:28):
What.

Speaker 2 (56:28):
So she was truly living in poverty.
I mean, marlon Brando the moneyhe was giving her was going
towards her phone bill, okay,and so she just didn't have a
phone after he stopped givingher money.

Speaker 1 (56:39):
Oh, come on.
So he couldn't even reach her.

Speaker 2 (56:42):
But she still had no bed.
No bed, I know, I mean maybeit's like a mattress at least,
but they don't even say that, Idon't know.
So she, um, still had cachet tosome.
You know, in the late 70s andearly 80s, punks were coming out
of the woodwork and this ispunk vampire.

(57:02):
This is punk vampire.
We're coming, we're coming, um.
So in the late 70s and early80s, punks were coming out of
the woodwork and myla admiredtheir free-spiritedness and
their artistry.
A punk musician named tomataduplenty was the front man.
Yep, he was the front man for aband called the screamers and

(57:24):
he met myla in a parking lot inthe neighborhood they both lived
in and instantly befriended her.
Okay, his punk ethos andartistic mindset resonated with
Myla in every way.
Tamada and his other musicianfriends checked on Myla
regularly, made sure she hadfood and became a pseudo-family
to her.

Speaker 1 (57:43):
Isn't that cute.
It was like he was the motherhen, yeah, and she was the
duckling.

Speaker 2 (57:48):
I think that's really really sweet to be like.
I'm like this counterculture orwhatever, but I'm seeing this
like woman.
Who this old lady?

Speaker 1 (57:55):
who needs help.

Speaker 2 (57:56):
But not even just that.
Like he's, like he gets alongwith her, like they share wit,
like it said you know?
They like they had similaritiesand but he just took care of
her and but he just took care ofher.
He saw somebody like that hereally liked, who needed taking
care of you know you gotta takecare of the neighborhood freak
yeah, for sure, and I love thatbecause I think, yeah, he's like
I'm a neighborhood freak toolet's take care of each other.

(58:18):
Her bud, jack simmons, had movedto long beach with his partner
phil, but he still came aroundat times to call on myla, like
generally, pretty regularly,actually like once or twice a
month.
But sometimes she didn't evenlet him in.
She was such an ass to JackSimmons, which is funny, but he
just kept coming, good friend.
So generally her life becamesmall, isolated and quiet.

(58:41):
But new interest in herre-emerged when a book called
the Golden Turkey Awards byHarry Medved named the Ed Wood
film Plan 9 from Outer Space asthe worst movie of all time.
This resulted in some buzz anda screening of the film at the

(59:01):
Vista Theater.
Capitalizing on the moment,myla sold Vampyra t-shirts and
sold them at the screening.
Hell yeah, girl, get it.
Guests included Diane Keatonand Warren Beatty, and that
screening proved to be the firsttime Myla actually watched the
movie herself.
It had been 24 years.

(59:22):
She didn't give a fuck, she'sjust like all right.

Speaker 1 (59:27):
I love that.
Yeah, I never saw this movie.

Speaker 2 (59:31):
here's a t-shirt, yeah I will profit off my
likeness.
Thank you very much thank youso much.
Um, so she wore the t-shirtsshe made, sometimes with her
face on them, and she went fromhiding behind her alter egos

(59:54):
like her ringless toilet,elizabeth and hell in heaven and
Melrose Rose, to owning hervampire image again.

Speaker 1 (01:00:00):
All right, full circle yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:00:02):
She did a short film called Bungalow Invader as a
version of Vampyra and was paid350 for her efforts.
Okay, then in 1981 an articlecame out in the los angeles
magazine about the film,describing it as a silly romp
through the many rooms of ahollywood bungalow, using many
windows, much screaming andburning candelabras.

Speaker 1 (01:00:26):
Honestly her brand.
Yeah, sounds great, soundsgreat yeah.
It sounds like she wasperfectly cast yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:00:32):
No, I think that they they were like.
At this point people wereknowing who she was, even just
from that movie.

Speaker 1 (01:00:36):
So they're like all right yeah let's make something
around you.

Speaker 2 (01:00:51):
That's kind of what I feel like happened with that tv
.
Walt baker read the article andset out on a quest to find myla
.
She wasn't easy to find yeah,she didn't have a phone.
She didn't have a phone, buteventually she got the message
that he wanted to meet with herand 25 years after leaving the
station, myla walked back in.
Wow, so this is the one where,like she made the like bad snake
rape joke.

Speaker 1 (01:01:05):
oh, yes, yes, and got slowly canceled.
Yes, basically.

Speaker 2 (01:01:10):
Yeah, and then now she's back there, wow.

Speaker 1 (01:01:12):
Because they were looking for her.

Speaker 2 (01:01:14):
They wanted to do the horror host concept again and
Walt wanted Myla to playVampyra's mother.
Oh, God.
Yep, to which Myla responded no.

Speaker 1 (01:01:25):
I'm afraid I couldn't do that.
Vampyra was born magically.
She has no mother.
Perfect answer.
Beautiful yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:01:36):
She's like.
I have written her backstoryand it is 300 pages long, if you
would like to see it.
Myla suggested that she playother characters on the show
from time to time, citing theCarol Burnett show as
inspiration, but it's kind oflike how she just lived through
the world as an annoying actor.

Speaker 1 (01:01:53):
Much like me, much like.

Speaker 2 (01:01:56):
Marissa, but she said she could find a girl to play
Vampyra and train herInteresting yes.
When Walt asked how she'd findher, Myla suggested she would do
a contest and choose someonewho was innately self-absorbed
yet intelligent with a greatsense of timing, beautiful.
Yes, she demanded six weeks totrain the girl.

(01:02:19):
You know minimum.
She wanted the after minimumfor any time that she was asked
to appear on the show ascharacters.

Speaker 1 (01:02:26):
After was the union at the time Right right, so she
wanted union.
Union rates baby.

Speaker 2 (01:02:35):
And she wanted $400 for each episode for the use of
her character Vampyra.

Speaker 1 (01:02:40):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (01:02:41):
Yes, but then this is where I feel like she was a
little flawed in coming up withthis plan.
Okay, personally, and you cantell me if I'm wrong, but she
said that she would pay the newhost out of this $400.
No, yeah, oh my love Like whywould you no?
No, let them pay the new host,let's just.

Speaker 1 (01:03:00):
How did they even agree to this?

Speaker 2 (01:03:02):
She's not, this is just her.
This is her brainstorming,coming up with what would be
good for her.
Okay, because she can't do that.

Speaker 1 (01:03:07):
She's not her employer.
Yeah, it's weird.
That was a weird one.

Speaker 2 (01:03:11):
All right, so this did not happen.
No, that didn't happen.
Okay, she also wanted to writethe scripts.
Waltz wanted the show to airtwice a weekend on Saturday at 6
and on Sunday at 4, which arelike primetime spots.

Speaker 1 (01:03:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:03:23):
And Milo was told she would be an associate writer
and producer.

Speaker 1 (01:03:27):
So she was really hopeful.

Speaker 2 (01:03:28):
That sounds good yeah , this sounds like like really
kind of too good to be true.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So they had plans to have acontest, to be judged by Myla
and the producers, where eachgirl would do their own costume
and makeup and then do an on airaudition.
Whoa yeah, but then theydecided not to have a contest

(01:03:48):
and to do an audition insteadokay.

Speaker 1 (01:03:50):
Well, what is an audition but a contest?

Speaker 2 (01:03:55):
it's very true.
I mean, like it's more justlike, are you airing it or not?

Speaker 1 (01:03:58):
and I guess they're like we won't air it.
We won't air it because how arethey probably just got into
like so much red tape?
Yeah, and also yeah, yeah, itdoesn.

Speaker 2 (01:04:06):
Also it sounds boring because you'd listen to the
same people say the same thingover and over again, because
that's really what an auditionis yeah.
But then they decided not tohave a contest and to do an
audition instead.
But Myla was told she couldstill be present for the
auditions.
She was also told that theyreally did need her to be
present as the new vampire'smother on the episodes, and on

(01:04:28):
that point myla actuallycompromised, okay she said okay,
fine, she's born magically.
But fine, fine, and she's, butshe.
Her compromise was that shewould be um on the phone, that
she wouldn't appear, she wouldjust be on the phone as a voice.
Oh cute.

Speaker 1 (01:04:42):
That's what she said.

Speaker 2 (01:04:42):
I like that she's like, yeah, I could be, because
in her head she's probably likeI am her magical mother, who is
actually made of stardust andsand and and the ashes of the
evil.

Speaker 1 (01:04:55):
The evil, yeah, the evil, and I have figured out how
to use the phone.

Speaker 2 (01:05:02):
How to use the phone.
How to use the phone Exactly.
I'm speaking through the phone.
I feel like there's some sortof Twilight episode about like a
ghost calling.
Yeah, I love that.

Speaker 1 (01:05:10):
Yeah, I'm here for it .

Speaker 2 (01:05:12):
Mm-hmm, but, but None of that actually played out.
What actually happened was theybrought Myla in and told her
they'd found the girl.
Okay, she went there.
Whatever, whatever auditionhappened, she was not there for
it and her name was CassandraPeterson.
But the kicker was that theyhad promised Cassandra Vampyra

(01:05:32):
merchandising rights as part ofher contract.

Speaker 1 (01:05:35):
No, which is a pretty big slap in the face.

Speaker 2 (01:05:38):
They even went over Myla's head on conceptualizing
the costume and creating andwriting the script.
And now they wanted Myla tosign all of this into being, and
Myla refused and in doing soshe invalidated the entire
contract.

Speaker 1 (01:05:55):
That's right, and Walt Baker told her if you don't
sign it within 24 hours, we'llgo with another format.

Speaker 2 (01:06:08):
Now he has eight chins and I wasn't picturing him
that way before I am now.
Myla said go fuck yourself andwalked out.

Speaker 1 (01:06:16):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (01:06:18):
Baker denied in an article in Fangoria magazine
stupid that Myla would havenever been allowed to audition
and train the new horror hostess.
He said all he wanted for Mylawere the rights to use the
character Vampyra.
Since she didn't allow him tohave them, in the end he came up
with a new name for thecharacter and that name was
Elvira.

(01:06:38):
Oh Yep.
So now this is where this comesin, and it pained Myla greatly
to see the success that camefrom that show.

Speaker 1 (01:06:49):
She wrote in her journal Now, as I count pennies
for each can of tomato soup, theworld has come to believe that
the world Vampyra is in thedictionary, that it is the
female word for the male vampire.
They believe that Vampyraherself is in public domain and

(01:07:11):
lift my product.
This is America.
Where, then, is the pauper'sattorney?

Speaker 2 (01:07:19):
She tried to speak out, but it was hard without any
money.
She put flyers on cars aboutthis.
She even wrote a line in thepersonal ads of the newspaper
that read All who resentElvira's brazen thievery write
to Vampyra.

Speaker 1 (01:07:37):
723 North Heliotrope.
I know where that is, do you?
It's in a shitty part of town.

Speaker 2 (01:07:44):
Okay, heliotrope, so it's still shitty.
It's still shitty.
I just I think it's funny thatshe's like complaining all the
time, though about likeeveryone's trying to find me,
and now she's like this is myaddress.

Speaker 1 (01:07:53):
That's right.
Write me if you're as outragedas I am.
Find me.

Speaker 2 (01:07:57):
Myla hated her with a passion and said that Elvira
acted like a stripper in abasement of an Elks Club,
whatever that means?
What does that mean?
I don't know.
She wrote a letter that waspublished in an issue of LA
Weekly signed Vampyra.
It read Dear.

Speaker 1 (01:08:16):
Editor Three jeers To laugh out loud when alone is,
psychologists declare a sign ofmadness.
Knowing this, I was nonethelessguffawing aloud some supremely
un-vampire-like guffaws, as Irollicked through the best of

(01:08:36):
the worst and lo fathom mydelight to come upon while, in
this sublime state, yourselection of the most
disappointing cleavage state.
Your selection of the mostdisappointing cleavage, elvira
interrupts.
The dark mistress of themediocre, now jubilant.

(01:09:01):
As well as rollicking, Ihastily poison-panned an ode to
this same odious vampyra.
You darling, you guessed it.
Some bad blood lies betweenthose lovely vampire ladies.
Sincerely and hatefully, yourabhorring fan.
Beach balls made of silicone.
Sneering, drowning, monotone Ofsuch things.

(01:09:23):
The maid is fashioned, then ofsmugness.
Adidasioned things.
The maid is fashioned, then ofsmugness.
Add a dash end.
Watch the silly slattern slutpull her punches, preen and
strut for vampires' privateingrates.
Satan's puppet proudly gyrates.
And what will new tomorrowsbring?
More of this?
Disgusting thing.

(01:09:44):
Deeper necklines, disgustingthing, deeper necklines, pubic
hair, don't you wish that youwere there?
The above is my literaryopinion.
Print it if you like.
I take full responsibility.
Let her try to touch myTransylvania bank account,

(01:10:07):
signed Vampyra.
I love it, damn I love thatthey printed it.

Speaker 2 (01:10:10):
I love it, daryl.
I love that they printed it.
They printed it.
She's basically like look, I'mjust going to use the power of
my pen, because at this pointit's all about revenge for her,
not even the money.
In this one I mean it is, butit's not, but it is, but it's
not, but it is, but it is, yeah.
So Myla became depressed andpractically suicidal after all

(01:10:31):
of this.
She locked herself in herapartment and she wouldn't come
out until some punk singers in agroup called the misfits came
to pay her oh, just the misfitsyeah, whoa.
They were releasing their veryfirst lp withinyl Fetish Records
.
So on brand all of it, wow.
And they had written a song onit called Vampyra for her.

(01:10:56):
Oh yeah, and they wanted Mylato attend their record deal
signing.
So she was touched and obligedputting on her whole getup for
the event.
Oh, wow, yeah.
She soon became a grandmotherto the punup for the event.
Oh, wow, yeah.
She soon became a grandmotherto the punks in the neighborhood
and their desire to challengethe world with their art made

(01:11:16):
them kindred spirits.
And Tamada DiPlenty, who wealready knew, was looking out
for her.
He came around many times, likewe said, to make sure Milo was
fed and that her spirits werelifted, and he arranged for her
to make money doing a series ofmonologues as a new character,
honey Gulper, at a place calledthe Anti Club.

(01:11:36):
Honey's backstory.

Speaker 1 (01:11:39):
This is Milo's latest character.

Speaker 2 (01:11:40):
Please give it to us.
Honey's backstory was that shehad come to Los Angeles from
Arkansas with big dreams but hadhad many unfortunate cosmetic
surgeries and now is just stuckwith her memories.

Speaker 1 (01:11:53):
That's really funny.

Speaker 2 (01:11:54):
Yeah.
That's really really funny andthe monologues apparently got
really good reviews from LAWeekly, LA Reader and Los
Angeles Times.

Speaker 1 (01:12:02):
Well, and the Times, yes, Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:12:05):
So she's really, yeah , like still still making
headlines you know, and she alsoexpressed herself artistically
with yet another punk bandcalled satan's cheerleaders.
They asked her to perform somesongs with them on their album.
She didn't sing so much asproselytize, performing the

(01:12:26):
sermon from a discarded flyerover their music.
The songs were called I'mDamned and Genocide Utopia and
according to one band member,the record turned out to be Our
Louie Louie, which I think isjust like it was like our hit.
Wow, so I feel like I kind ofwant to play a part of this.
Okay, so let's do Genocide,utopia, that's her.

(01:13:07):
This sounds.

(01:13:32):
This rings true for today.
She's just reading a flyer.
She's like just reading a flyerlove it.
Oh Lord, holy and true, Lastthou not done and avenge our
blood on them.
It's really cool.

(01:13:53):
I feel like that's so cool andat that point in time, Okay, so
she was born in like the 20s, sothen that would be 30.
60s she's in her 60s at thispoint, so she's like yeah, cool.

Speaker 1 (01:14:09):
She's doing this in her 60s is pretty, pretty rad.
That's so punk it is.

Speaker 2 (01:14:12):
It's awesome rock and I love that like they were
courting her all of these peopleto do stuff with them.
Yeah, so it's just they theyreally respected.
I think she was earlycounterculture and they're like
oh, 100 percent, yeah they'relike we're current counter
culture and like bow downrespect yeah, do anything with
us like it's such a a boon rightso we see you, you see, see us

(01:14:35):
yeah, so I think that that'sreally, really rad.
Um, really cool thing she did.
But milo was still at thispoint in time, licking her
wounds from the alvira situation.
So she finally got the gumptionto put together a lawsuit.
She claimed that the series hadused her identity, character
and sets without obtaining herpermission.

(01:14:57):
The red velvet couch was thesame on both shows.
The low cut, tattered blackdress was the same, the
voluptuous figure candelabras.

Speaker 1 (01:15:05):
I mean everything.
The.
The name was barely not.

Speaker 2 (01:15:09):
Yeah, it was very thinly veiled yeah, um, on the
first day of filming actually ofthe show and she had like
documentation of this becauseshe had like the yes, original
she had the receipts.
Yeah, and on the first day offilming the show was still
called the vampire show, becausethey hadn't come up with a new
name yet.
Oh my god so it's like but thejudge and I'm like glossing over

(01:15:32):
some of this legality stuff,but the judge did not rule in
myla's favor.
No, he did not.
According to him, a likeness isan actual representation of a
person, not a close resemblance,which was basically the
argument that the lawyers on theother side made, and he bought
into it.
That's.
That's so dumb yeah, so thatjust allowed them to steal from

(01:15:54):
her yeah, and he hinted thatmyla could still sue for
trademark infringement, but shewas too wounded and distrustful
at this point and broke toattempt that.
Uh, so she continued to justlead a quiet life.
Um, she fuck that, I know it.

Speaker 1 (01:16:13):
It really fucking sucks, you know, oh, that makes
me so mad that to in, to be ableto get justice, a lot of the
time you have to have money.
Yeah, no, you do, you really doyou really do.
Yeah, it's so frustrating it'sreally stupid.

Speaker 2 (01:16:30):
I'm so sad for her I know mad and sad for her.

Speaker 1 (01:16:34):
I know justice for myla.

Speaker 2 (01:16:36):
Justice for myla, justice for vampyra yeah and
yeah, I don't know, I'm not sure.
It's weird, like I don't knowwhat to think about alvira after
all of this because it's likepart of it is like studio execs
and stuff, but it's just likealso, I don't know it's, it's
icky she's implicated for sureum, and she's the one taking all

(01:16:57):
the money, like good lord somyla.
You know she's leading her quietlife.
She had dogs now rather thancats.
She reconnected with her niece,sandra a bit um, I didn't talk
about this part, but she likewhen she hung out with them for
the first time, like her 13 yearold grandniece came, like

(01:17:17):
sandra's daughter, and she wasbeing like kind of like a little
brat because they were likegoing thrifting for school
clothes and she was like, oh, Idon't want this, I want to go to
the mall.
And she was like you're a littlebitch and she just like punk to
the end she's like you're alittle bit, but in the end, myla
died alone in her apartment,sitting in a plastic chair in

(01:17:39):
her underwear.
Her pants that she'd taken offto hand wash were draped over a
chair beside her and her tiny TVwas on.
Her dog was hungry.
Her neighbor, hilda, is theperson who found her, and after
her death, the vampireintellectual property that she
had defended so fiercely wassnatched up by the first person

(01:18:01):
who could grab it, and herfamily doesn't make any money
off of it.
So even though she defended itso much through her life, she
didn't really set it up into awill or something that would
exist after her life ended, soit just was.
It sucks because it was likeall for naught.
Yeah, you know, jeez, but moneywas pulled together by the
people who loved her to makesure she found her final resting

(01:18:23):
place at Hollywood forever.
That's why we're talking abouther now.
I'm crying.
Resting place at Hollywoodforever.
That's why we're talking abouther now.
And it's really sad.
I'm actually really crying,yeah, it's really sad, um, and

(01:18:48):
she lies there now for all tocome and visit, and I yeah, I
was getting emotional right inthe end of this too, because you
know, we always suggest anoffering for people and I think
you should go see myla if youhave a chance.
Go see her.
Go sit by her.
Her, her grave is the kind thatwe always get the grave terms
wrong again somebody write inand tell me what, what, that,
what I'm saying.
That's wrong because I neverlook it up in real time.

(01:19:08):
But, like the kind that areflat, get the grave terms wrong.
Again, somebody write in andtell me what I'm saying.
That's wrong because I neverlook it up in real time.
But like the kind that are flaton the ground.
Right is the kind of grave shehas, so it's like you can go sit
right there with her.
You can just sit right there,smoke a joint, you know, like
she used to do with hergraveyard buddies back in the
day with James Dean and JackSimmons.

(01:19:29):
Crack a joke about being a graverobber from outer space.
You know, go go talk to her.
That's what I feel you shoulddo Just go sit and talk to her
and tell her that you appreciatewhat she did and what she
created, because I think thatthat's the best thing that we
could all leave her, becauseit's just like some company and
some thanks yeah, and somethanks, because she worked

(01:19:50):
really hard to create in herlife and also just like made her
life all about creating thingsand she didn't get.
She got like really beaten upabout it a lot and she created
things people wanted and that'swhat sucks.
It's like she did have thatability, yeah and it.
It just never benefited her andshe was.
She suffered a lot, you know.

(01:20:12):
But I think like, truly likewhen you were asking about this
before, because you're likewhere does she end up?
What happens, whatever?
A couple episodes back, it'slike she is somebody who I feel
like she never lost her artistperspective ever, ever and and
it's like she still did haverespect from it.
I love the punks in this story.

(01:20:33):
I love the punks in this storyso much for being, for never
letting her forget that she wasan artist and making sure for
never letting her forget thatshe was a punk yeah, that she
was a punk, that she wasrespected and that she was an
artist and that she, that peoplewanted to see her.
You know because hear her yeah,and I think that that, like
that's beautiful to me.

(01:20:54):
I just like I love that.
I love every part of that.
But what's hitting you the most, marissa?
Because you are, you're gettingemotional.
I'm really tired.

Speaker 1 (01:21:09):
It's very late it's very late, but you know, it's
just like.
I feel like she just got takenadvantage of her whole life yeah
like personally, through herart, and like I said this like a
few episodes back, but I waslike where, through her art, and
like I said this like a fewepisodes back, but I was like

(01:21:32):
where, where are her?
Where are her female friends?
You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (01:21:37):
Yeah, there was one friend I didn't mention Cause it
was like a blip that I almostdid just because I wanted to
bring it up, but like it waslike after she got out of the
rehabilitation center, a friendwho like like they drove to like
vegas together and stuff and solike it was like like trying to
, you know, but it was somebodyfrom her um, like cheesecake
modeling days, you know like along ago friend but that's nice,

(01:22:00):
you know, like yeah but theystill weren't the people who
were like consistently there?

Speaker 1 (01:22:04):
right, right.
It's just like oh, I don't knowit makes it makes me so mad and
when I get really, really mad,I cry and I'm so mad on her
behalf yeah, and I just it also.

Speaker 2 (01:22:19):
Just, you know it doesn't.
I think the saddest thing islike she just didn't have
anything.
She didn't have anything.
She had like plastic chairs inher apartment.
Yeah, and she died in thatplastic chair.
I hate that.
I hate that for her.
She deserved to die on a redvelvet couch with smoke all

(01:22:39):
around it and a bunch of likeand a bunch of candelabras and a
bunch of candelabras and like,and, and you know, like just the
most gothic elegance all aroundher.
Yeah, and I hope that that'swhere you are right now, myla, I
really do.
I hope that you are surroundedby all of the gothic elegance
that you deserve and I hope thatyou have an audience who gives

(01:23:02):
you a standing O every day,every night.

Speaker 1 (01:23:07):
And every night.
Yeah, every day, uh-huh, every,every night and every night,
yeah in your lounging, in your,in your velvet fainting couch?
Yes, exactly giving us all hellthat's right.

Speaker 2 (01:23:19):
So I don't know.
Cheers to the woman who gotaway with making an orgasm joke
night after night on televisionin the freaking mid 50s jeez
that's crazy, that's that in andof itself is a life
accomplishment yeah, you knowyeah so, myla, we love you we

(01:23:39):
love you so much we're gonnahave to go, we're gonna go do a
visit soon, we're due for avisit to go sit with her and and
do that because mad respect, Ijust think like to me, like this
is, this would be arevolutionary woman today.

Speaker 1 (01:23:54):
Yes, absolutely, yeah , absolutely.
So, she, it was like she somepoints, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:24:14):
And because it's like you could have easily bent in
any of these areas and she mighthave profited more from it, and
because that's how this townworks and it sucks and I feel
like she wasn't.
You know, she's too pure of anartist for that kind of game and
so it wasn't gonna work for her, but like when you're a
performer, like what else do youdo?
So, god, yeah, rough out there.

Speaker 1 (01:24:38):
It's rough out there, and it's always been rough out
there in these hollywood streets.

Speaker 2 (01:24:43):
Yep, yep, but thank you, myla, for paving the way
for all of the goths out here,for the glamorous goths and
ghouls in this world, because weknow you were mother.
We know, we know, yeah, we know, and now so many more people
know.
So, yeah, write us honestly,write us some like dedications.

(01:25:04):
I think that's a good idea.

Speaker 1 (01:25:05):
Why don't you guys?

Speaker 2 (01:25:06):
write us some dedications that we can read for
um when we go visit vampireyeah, because we haven't done it
yet.
So if you have anything youwant to say to her, any notes,
anything you want us to you knowto to you know to gift, or any
ideas for that, please leavecomments.
Um, in our uh apple podcast,let us know what you think of

(01:25:27):
the show too.

Speaker 1 (01:25:27):
Yeah, and we will gladly, gladly go do that.

Speaker 2 (01:25:30):
Yeah, for sure.
So please do that, and thenwe'll film it so you guys can
see it.

Speaker 1 (01:25:36):
And dress up.

Speaker 2 (01:25:37):
Yeah, yes, we're going to be so gothed out.
I love it.
Marissa's really good at doingmakeup, actually, so that would
be pretty sick.

Speaker 1 (01:25:46):
Dead and Kind of Famous is written, researched
and produced by CourtneyBlomquist.
It is co -hosted by MarissaRivera.
We tag team on socials.
Jesse Russell and CourtneyBlomquist do our editing.

Speaker 2 (01:25:58):
If we piqued your curiosity and you enjoyed the
show, please leave us a ratingand review on Apple Podcasts and
follow us.
Subscribe wherever you get yourpodcasts.
We love you.
Love you to bits, until nexttime.
Remember, you may not be famous, but you got a story to tell.

Speaker 1 (01:26:17):
And you ain't said yes, bye you.

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