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July 8, 2025 25 mins

Keywords

Decoded, business secrets, leadership, AI, mentorship, team culture, influence, communication


Summary

In this inaugural episode of Decoded, hosts Shawn and John embark on a journey to explore the secrets of business and life. They discuss the importance of patience in business growth, the impact of AI, and the significance of leadership and mentorship. The conversation also touches on team dynamics and the power of influence and communication. With a light-hearted tone, they set the stage for future episodes filled with insights and stories.


Takeaways

The importance of patience in business growth.
AI is becoming an integral part of all businesses.
Leadership is about leaving a positive legacy.
Building a strong team culture is essential for success.
Effective communication can influence outcomes significantly.
Mentorship plays a crucial role in professional development.
Business timelines often do not match personal expectations.
The journey of growth can be both challenging and rewarding.
Creating a positive impact on others is a key goal in leadership.
The future holds exciting possibilities for business and personal growth.


Titles

Decoded: Secrets to Business and Life
The Code of Business Success


Sound bites

"The Code: Secrets and Stories"
"AI and Its Impact on Business"
"Closing Thoughts: The Future Ahead"


Chapters

00:00 Welcome to Decoded: The Beginning of a Journey
02:44 The Code: Secrets and Stories
06:00 Business Growth: The Importance of Patience
08:27 AI and Its Impact on Business
11:17 Leadership and Mentorship: Leaving a Legacy
14:13 Team Dynamics: Building a Strong Culture
17:10 Influence and Communication: The Power of Words
20:09 Closing Thoughts: The Future Ahead

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Episode Transcript

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
And countdown, welcome to Decoded. Actually,
let me start this one off.Welcome to Decoded with Sean and
John, the Sean and John show.I'm Sean. I'm John.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
Hey. Welcome to the show.

Speaker 1 (00:17):
We are talking about Secrets to Business and Life,
which is a much better titlethan Sean and John secrets of
business alike. Dude, I couldnot

Speaker 2 (00:29):
do a show with Sean and John.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
Sean and wait. Would it be Sean and John or John and
Sean? I think Sean and Johnsounds better.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
Sean and John?

Speaker 1 (00:37):
Sean John? Sean John? No. That's Chloe's line. And not
someone you wanna be associatedwith right now.
Yeah. You're right. How did weslam Diddy already? Oh, boy.
Sorry, man.
Hey, dude. It's your fault.Yeah.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
So he did that. I we It's not

Speaker 1 (00:52):
our fault. I'm excited

Speaker 2 (00:54):
to do this show with you, man. We have a plan for a
little bit, and I'm stoked thatwe are finally getting around to
getting it recorded and out. Andit is decoded, and we are gonna
be doing this often. We're gonnahave a lot of good shows coming
up with some amazing people And

Speaker 1 (01:13):
Some good guests.

Speaker 2 (01:14):
Some good guests. It's gonna be fun. What do we
what should we talk about on ourshows?

Speaker 1 (01:19):
Are we gonna talk about the code? We've talked
about talking about the code.

Speaker 2 (01:23):
It's like Fight Club. Right? Yeah. We're talking about
that really. What's the numberone rule of Fight

Speaker 1 (01:28):
Don't talk about the code. Don't talk about the code.
Yep. And don't have an imaginaryfriends.

Speaker 2 (01:34):
Did you have imaginary friends who were
growing up?

Speaker 1 (01:36):
No, sir. Did you? You're just tearing me right
now.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
I got really excited for that topic. I didn't have
any imaginary friends. I knewpeople who did, but they also
ate glue. Yeah. So there's that.

Speaker 1 (01:52):
Not a good thing.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
No. No. No Harvey the Rabbits. No Castro the Ghost for
me. So with you.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
Although Fight Club was an amazing movie.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
That was actually one of my favorite movies. I think
because I didn't see it cominginto the end. Yeah. It was odd.
It was a it was a odd movie andvery very cultish.
I think a lot of people likethat movie.

Speaker 1 (02:15):
Definitely a cult.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
Yeah. Definitely a cult Like

Speaker 1 (02:18):
the soap, the, you know, think of the movie cover
with the soap. Dude, that wasYeah. It's awesome.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
That's a trip. This is what it's gonna be. It's
gonna be interesting quips andstories because John likes to
tell interesting stories.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
I do like to tell analogies and stories. I call
them Johnisms. Johnisms?

Speaker 2 (02:36):
Yeah. I made that up last night. I was talking I
talking I was section withSummer, and I was like, try to
do a Johnism. I couldn't do it.

Speaker 1 (02:43):
Yeah. Yeah. They're not.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
They're definitely uniquely John.

Speaker 1 (02:46):
They're a little contagious, though. Like, once

Speaker 2 (02:47):
They are.

Speaker 1 (02:48):
Yeah. You know, Zoey, who's gonna be starting Yep.
What, a week or two? In theinterview, she was breaking out
some analogies. And I was like,oh, okay.
This is this could be a goodvibe.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
For those who don't know, Zoe is our new marketing
administrator. She's gonna begreat.

Speaker 1 (03:08):
She's do a good job.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
She's gonna work a lot

Speaker 1 (03:10):
on this podcast. Yep. So We're gonna have some fun.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
Thanks, Zoe. I had a time.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
Zoe, if if, she sees this before she starts, I just
wanna let her know we'repainting the walls in her office
and getting her desk set uphappily. We want her to feel
right at home day one.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
Are we gonna paint it the same as mine?

Speaker 1 (03:26):
No. Your walls are black.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
Too much?

Speaker 1 (03:31):
Too much. So the code. The reason I'm talking
about Fight Codes Club isbecause we're talking about the
code. That's right. But we can'ttalk about the code.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
You're not supposed to. We're not supposed to. Yeah.
We were talking about thisearlier. You know, if we do have
discussions about the code,we're gonna have have Drew on.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
Only if he's retained his mustache in Arizona. I was a
little worried that he is his aclass barber was in Oregon. And
now that his beard and Hannibalmustache may not have the same
effect.

Speaker 2 (04:03):
You know, he does have that organ thing going on.
It's almost like you have thatbeard and a puffy vest. Yeah.
Let's let's look.

Speaker 1 (04:13):
Yeah. Can see it. And a beanie. You you know he's a
beekeeper or was? I don't thinkShut up.
Yeah. He had bees. Absolutely.Which I'm I'm assuming is gonna

Speaker 2 (04:22):
surprise me.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
No. It's not super surprising. No. About Drew.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
Yeah. We need to have him on. Drew's a character.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
He'd be a good guest. He'd be a really good guest.

Speaker 2 (04:31):
I really like Drew. I don't think he liked me for a
long time. But

Speaker 1 (04:35):
You don't think Drew liked you for a long No.

Speaker 2 (04:37):
No. No. I never told him this. But when I first met
him, I was like, I like yourmustache, bro. And he was just
like, yeah, that came up.
Can

Speaker 1 (04:46):
I trust you? Yeah. He gave me the can I trust you
though? He gave that. Like hedidn't like you.
He just didn't know you yet.Well, he

Speaker 2 (04:52):
didn't know me, and, like and so it took a while. I I
eventually warmed up to him.

Speaker 1 (04:57):
Yeah. I could see

Speaker 2 (04:58):
that. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
Yeah. I mean, the the man lives by the code.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
By the code. He he really doesn't live by

Speaker 1 (05:02):
the your circle. Mhmm.

Speaker 2 (05:04):
Yeah. He doesn't understand that. Yeah. Yeah. So

Speaker 1 (05:07):
Absolutely. A while

Speaker 2 (05:07):
to get into the circle. Circle trust.

Speaker 1 (05:10):
I think with Drew, it does. Yeah. I well, a lot of
people. Yeah. A lot of people.
Yeah. It wasn't like that withus when we met, though.

Speaker 2 (05:17):
No. Was, like, instantaneous.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
I was like, I trust you. I trust you too.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
High five. Let's go.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
You're my guy. You're my guy too. Okay. Cool. This
house was fun.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
So funny, man. That happened so quickly. Mhmm. Yeah.
It's been six months, and Ican't even believe it.

Speaker 1 (05:31):
It feels like six weeks. Feels like six weeks. But
we've accomplished so much. It'salmost like it's been two years.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
And at the same time, I know you're like, I am, man.
Like, this podcast is a primeexample of that. Like, I wanted
to go so much faster and get itso much get it done so much
quicker. And I'm like, damn it.We haven't got all this stuff
done already, but yet we'veactually done a lot.

Speaker 1 (05:52):
No, it's true. Like, you know, and I struggle with
that in business. I do. Youknow, that's one thing that I
have to constantly remind myselfof is, you know, Starbucks took
two years to replace all theirmenu boards. Right?
I don't know if that'sSeriously. If that's accurate,
but I I know it was a long timeand you would think it's not a
hard thing. It's it's a menuboard. You pull one out, you put
the the new one in, and you'redone. And obviously they have a
lot of locations.
Right? But, you know, I'm sureconceptually they were like, the

(06:16):
CEO, I bet, was like, sixmonths, I want brand new menu
boards. And the good peoplearound them were were probably
slowing the roll. Freaking out.Okay.
Now I'm just imagining how itwent in the boardroom. But the
point is

Speaker 2 (06:27):
Making up stories.

Speaker 1 (06:28):
The point is it takes a long time to get stuff done in
business. The timelines don'talways Line up. Equal your
expectations.

Speaker 2 (06:35):
I think it's one of the toughest things for me
because I'm always wanting to goa 100 miles an hour.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
Yeah. Let's go. Let's get it done. I know. Simple
thing.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
Although I will have to say that that is a secret
business, is you need to gofast.

Speaker 1 (06:48):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
And you gotta be cautious. Yes. Mhmm. Be one
thing I like about you is you'rea little bit cavalier. I like to
take a little bit of risk.
Calculate risk. Cavalier.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
Yeah. That's a Sean word.

Speaker 2 (07:02):
No one else uses that?

Speaker 1 (07:03):
That's a good one. So cavalier. That's a good word.

Speaker 2 (07:06):
I'll take it. I well, I liked Walt. Okay. So cavalier,
brave. Like, what's one of thewords I can explain that?
I I think it takes in business,it takes a lot of guts to to
Yeah. Be in business. Quick.It's not for the weak of heart.

Speaker 1 (07:19):
Quick non impulsive decisions. Yeah. Knowing,
trusting your gut, and justgoing with it. And, you know,
obviously, it's a big decision.We gotta take some time and talk
about it.
But the little stuff, let's justdo it. Keep moving because we
don't have lot of You

Speaker 2 (07:32):
really don't. And I if we look at this marketplace
or almost any marketplace

Speaker 1 (07:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:39):
There's not a lot of secret sauce. No. And I mean, we
do have some. But for the mostpart, it's just who's better,
who's faster, who's quicker attheir job, who's better at
marketing, not even that much.If you do I heard someone tell
me one time, if you do anamazing job and you all your

(08:01):
customers are happy, then youdon't have to market.
Like, marketing is just for jobsfor companies that do a crappy
job.

Speaker 1 (08:08):
Marketing is that's our slogan for marketing.

Speaker 2 (08:10):
For companies to do a great job.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
We're the non marketing so our marketing is
non marketing.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
That. It is. It's non marketing. Yeah. Yeah.
Can't remember who said that,and I it's the guy who who did
the whole Purple Cow thing.

Speaker 1 (08:23):
Who's the Purple Cow book? I don't know who the
Purple Cow thing is. Is heCavalier?

Speaker 2 (08:27):
Yes. He is very Cavalier.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
Is it Rich Dad, Poor Dad? No. I

Speaker 2 (08:33):
am gonna kick myself after I get done with this
episode. I cannot remember. Forthose who who Purple Cow book
is, you are gonna know.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
Okay. Not the Purple Crayon. Nope. That was a really
bad movie, by the way. Oppositeof Fight Club.
That's a movie? They may it wasbad too.

Speaker 2 (08:51):
Honestly, can't believe you did not get my movie
guest last night.

Speaker 1 (08:54):
Highlander. So I knew it, but I was in the space to
decipher what movie that wasfrom the screenshot of the
movie. Exactly why you saidthat. I was

Speaker 2 (09:06):
like, I need I need some help. I'm

Speaker 1 (09:09):
So just so you know, when I'm having a tough date and
you do send me those, you know,an emoji or a screenshot or you
you try to pull me out of myphone

Speaker 2 (09:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:17):
Just by getting that, it does put and I know I don't
always respond, but it does pullme out of my funk just by
getting it. So just so you know,if, like, you know, the act of
sending it is is definitely, youknow, success.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
I will send you chickens who talk in the
morning.

Speaker 1 (09:32):
I love those.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
Rise and grind.

Speaker 1 (09:33):
I love your rise and grind. Absolutely.

Speaker 2 (09:35):
I don't where I get those from, but they're frigging
hilarious.

Speaker 1 (09:38):
So when you send me those, it's often early in the
morning and I'm at the gym and Idon't respond because I don't I
don't usually text and email atthe gym. So I just, I see it,
but it's, you know, it's on myheadphones and I don't respond
because I don't wanna be thatguy. They're freaking funny.

Speaker 2 (09:52):
AI has gone off the charts. Off off the freaking
horizon. We'll talking about AI.We will talk

Speaker 1 (10:00):
about We're gonna talk about the code.

Speaker 2 (10:01):
We have to talk we have to talk about both.

Speaker 1 (10:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:04):
Well, code actually will tie into AI in a way.

Speaker 1 (10:09):
I think everything ties in to business and life.

Speaker 2 (10:13):
Well, it does. And I am a big AI nerd, so I'm going
to enjoy that part of it. Thatwill come out more often than
not just because it's such anintegrated part of our business
now. Our business, buteveryone's

Speaker 1 (10:25):
business. It has to be. Why why went in?

Speaker 2 (10:28):
You're integrated. Everything is changing. I was I
was training Paris today

Speaker 1 (10:33):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
On, on our chatbots. Paris. Paris.

Speaker 1 (10:36):
Paris Granger. Oh, Paris. Paris. Hi, Paris. Hi,
Paris.

Speaker 2 (10:40):
How you?

Speaker 1 (10:40):
How are you? Welcome to the party. Welcome to JE
crew.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
Paris is our new National Kent executive, of
course.

Speaker 1 (10:47):
Whom we're really excited. Yeah. She just spent a
week here in office. That wasgreat. She got to know the team.
She spent a little she got tospend a little time with Summer
before she left. Really, Ireally enjoyed having her in the
office, getting to know her. Shespent a lot of time with the
PFCs next door. Yeah. I couldn'tbe happier with the way that
onboarding week went down.

Speaker 2 (11:07):
Good. She was she was a very strong, candidate. She's
gonna do a really good job.

Speaker 1 (11:13):
Yeah. Is it gonna be good for her career and it's
gonna be good for JDE and goodfor our clients? It's win win.
Yes, it's gonna be awesome.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
Win, win, win. Yep. Can it get better than

Speaker 1 (11:23):
that? Three wins.

Speaker 2 (11:25):
Three wins, buddy. Win, win,

Speaker 1 (11:26):
Three wins. Alright. So we're gonna talk about the
code. Yep. We're gonna talkabout AI.
For sure. We're gonna talk aboutlife. Leadership? Leadership,
coaching, mentoring, growing.And sometimes saying goodbye.
Some sad stuff.

Speaker 2 (11:40):
Not happy. Mostly happy stuff. Yeah. Goodbyes
could be sad, but I think forthe most part, in business, it's
usually a good thing. Usually.
Usually. Sometimes. Sometimesnot. I've had

Speaker 1 (11:54):
some goodbyes that were not a good thing. Me too.
No. I mean, I think the point isyou leave people and places
better than you found them.Whether, you know, you're
leaving an organization oryou're leaving a campsite, you
clean up your mess before youleave and you left it better
than it was when you got there.
And it's the same thing forpeople. You know, sometimes you

(12:14):
have to sunset relationships orprofessional relationships and
people move on to other places.And when they do, as long as
you've had a positive impact intheir life and and, you know,
they're better for the time thatthey spent with you and with the
organization, it's a win. Yeah.And and hopefully, that's you
know, if you get two years outof somebody, that's great.
You get five, that's evenbetter. Anything over that, man,
I'm jazzed. You know, there'speople that have been here

(12:36):
seven, ten years

Speaker 2 (12:37):
I know.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
Longer, and and that's amazing. I love it.
Absolutely love it. And theyknow who they they know who they
are. They're awesome.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
I think if you have done your job as a leader, you
need to understand that if yougrow a person to the point where
they go somewhere else andthey're better off and they've
they take everything they'velearned, that you are a success.

Speaker 1 (12:56):
You succeeded. You absolutely succeeded. That's a
freaking win. Yep. 100%.
Freaking win. So if anybody'sthinking about leaving the
organization to go somewhereelse, I just wanna let you know
right now that, I do not acceptyour resignation. You cannot
leave. And no, obviously,obviously, you want I didn't

Speaker 2 (13:13):
mean to talk to you, John.

Speaker 1 (13:14):
Wait. No. It's It's only been six months. Come on.
Six months.
What did I do? I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
No. No. No.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
We're I take it back.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
Oh, wait. No. No. No. I'm super happy.
I'm actually I was actually Iwas talking to, for those who
don't know, my wife, her name isLaura, not Laura.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
Mhmm.

Speaker 2 (13:33):
But Laura. And she is a teacher, and

Speaker 1 (13:37):
we were talking about all

Speaker 2 (13:38):
the things that that has changed and accomplished and
how things are right now. And Ikeep wanting to get a new dog
because, well,

Speaker 1 (13:48):
I don't You love dogs.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
I love dogs. Yeah. And she's like, no, we can't get
a new dog. I'm like, dude, let'sget a new dog. But shiny
objects, we were we were talkingabout how things have just
gotten so much better in ourlives that we're at the point
where I can get a new dog.
We have kids that are leavingand all this. I was we're just
reflecting on, like, dude, thishas been such a good part of our

(14:10):
life. It's such a good change.And that the trajectory for here
is like huge.

Speaker 1 (14:16):
Oh, it's it's unbelievable. I'm saying, and I
feel the same way. So, you know,since you've started here, can
tell you I've worked harder thanI've ever worked. Thank God. But
yeah, you're definitely you'redefinitely, driving growth.
I and I I love that. I'mreinvigorated with the business.
You know, there's been two mainadditions to the team in the
past couple years and it's youand Summer. And you guys have

(14:36):
completely changed the dynamicof the entire company. The
tribe.
And you know, obviously, we'rebros. I'm I'm partial to Summer.
I mean, you know, she's she forobvious reasons. But yeah, she's
really come in and dialed usinto the point. And it's
serendipitous, right?

Speaker 2 (14:52):
Like, you

Speaker 1 (14:54):
are here at the right time. She started six months
before you or so, maybe a yearand a half in a fragmented way.
But you know, we were ready foryou and now you're here and
you've been here six months andit's amazing the way the
organization's grown from amaturity standpoint mostly.
Yeah. But just so excited forthe people here.
The culture's improved. My youknow, despite working more, my

(15:17):
life's absolutely improved. I'mhaving fun. I'm enjoying it. And
and that's really what matters.
And Yeah. I can't be complacentanyway, so I have to be
constantly moving and growing.

Speaker 2 (15:27):
I've had some bucket list items already. I've gotten
some cool things I wanted to do.I've accomplished some goals.
I've got a new admin starting.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
You've got a pretty big team. I do have a pretty big
team. Yeah. Actually, it's it'swell, the teams, we're scaling
the team. Yeah.
I wanna say it's big, but it'sit's growing.

Speaker 2 (15:46):
It's compared to where we started. Yeah. Yeah. So
it's good. Yeah.
That's exciting. I I think wherewe're gonna be in the next six
months is gonna be insane.

Speaker 1 (15:54):
It's gonna be awesome.

Speaker 2 (15:55):
Yeah. We're gonna look at and go, what the hell
happened?

Speaker 1 (15:57):
I know that, like, we're looking back Yeah. From
the previous six months going

Speaker 2 (16:01):
We shoulda

Speaker 1 (16:01):
What happened since January?

Speaker 2 (16:03):
Oh my Yeah. Know.

Speaker 1 (16:04):
Yeah. Two trade shows.

Speaker 2 (16:06):
This is a lot. New hires.

Speaker 1 (16:08):
New hires. Hires. New in. New offices. Marketing admin
coming in.
Gosh,

Speaker 2 (16:16):
dude. Whole new vendor relations department.

Speaker 1 (16:19):
Vendor relations department.

Speaker 2 (16:20):
Whole new department.

Speaker 1 (16:21):
Helping the team, supporting the clients and
customers at the same time. Andalso compliance, helping us with
our, all our compliance stuff.

Speaker 2 (16:28):
Been amazing. That's going really well too. She's
ready to go. I know. I'm excitedfor that.

Speaker 1 (16:34):
Well, we're gonna have to grow that team as we
scale. Yeah. As with all teams.

Speaker 2 (16:38):
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Big plans here, JDE, buddy.

Speaker 1 (16:41):
Oh my goodness. But we're not gonna give any of
those secrets away.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
No. Those are ours. Yeah. We're just gonna spill
secrets for other people.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
Let's see. What secret? Okay. So the code. We do
have to talk about the code.
Alright. Should we just save itfor Drew? Yeah. Just don't talk
about the he's not gonna talkabout the code. That's kinda
well, we'll talk about afterhe's gone.
So you wanna bring him on andYeah. Ask him to tell us about
the code, and he's gonna say no,and then we'll excuse him and

(17:11):
talk about it? Yeah. No.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
That might be awkward. Andrew, could you

Speaker 1 (17:18):
Did you say did you say you didn't think Drew liked
you?

Speaker 2 (17:21):
No. We that's why. I mean, yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:25):
So think Drew I think that's just you. I think I think
you do a lot of self reflection,and you're probably like, oh,
that that dude didn't like me,and it probably irked you for a
little bit. No. No. I know hedidn't like me.
I don't like it when peopledon't like me. If I feel like
somebody doesn't like me, I Idon't do that.

Speaker 2 (17:40):
You know what? I'm a high eye on the desk for those
who understand that. It justmeans that you're super
influential, but you're alsolike, oh, crap. You hurt my
feelings.

Speaker 1 (17:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
But then I do need to balance that out and also high
D, so I'm like, okay, I don'tcare.

Speaker 1 (17:55):
Yeah. It's weird. So speaking of being influential, I
know this is like openingepisode and we're we're not
gonna get like, you know, superdeep. True. True.
I will let's just drop like alittle tidbit of secrets of
business in life. Sure. So oneof the things I've learned from
you is, being influential withyour words. So speaking as as if

(18:17):
things have already happened.Yes.
You know, Sean, this podcast isgreat. I can't wait till we do
the next one next week. I knowit's gonna be Next week's
podcast is gonna be awesome.Really excited you're putting
that together. I know.
What are we doing that Thursday?Yes. Okay, perfect. So that's
happening. Yeah.
Okay, cool. It will. Soobviously we didn't have plans

(18:37):
to do a podcast on Thursday, No,

Speaker 2 (18:39):
of course not.

Speaker 1 (18:39):
Just that train of- Yeah, we will. Yeah, exactly.
The influential speaking. Andobviously that was, you know,
and it's, is it like Jedi?

Speaker 2 (18:47):
It is like Jedi.

Speaker 1 (18:48):
A little Jedi? Yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:49):
It is very NLP, is very subconscious minded through
all the psychologicalstandpoints.

Speaker 1 (18:55):
Do you do that to me?

Speaker 2 (18:57):
No. No.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
Wait, how did I learn it then? I don't think I'd do
that to you. No. It's great. Andand you you you use your Jedi
tools in in a positive way.
These are not the Jedi toolsgonna do. I knew you were gonna
do that. Yeah. I mean, you'reyou know, you have you do have
high influence, that's somethingyou should be proud of. I like

(19:21):
Thank

Speaker 2 (19:23):
you. You are, also, really good at that and you have
your Jhonisms that are reallywhat's the word I'm looking for
here? They kind of break up themonotony of stuff so much that
it causes, shifts in people'sthought process. So I don't know

(19:47):
if you know you're that, but youhave this this ability to like
break people out of their, theirmindset.

Speaker 1 (19:54):
Yeah, I do. It's it's a it's a verbal description that
creates an intimate picture inyour mind. And once you-

Speaker 2 (20:03):
Sometimes too intimate.

Speaker 1 (20:04):
That's usually behind closed doors.

Speaker 2 (20:08):
The secret.

Speaker 1 (20:09):
Yeah. Thanks, No, not like that. No. I mean, you paint
a picture in somebody's mind andyou look at things through their
lens and in a way that they'llunderstand and it influences
their thought to get to theresult that you're looking for
them to see. And it's not aboutinfluencing them to do something
you want them to do.
It's about knowing what theright answer and the right

(20:30):
result is helping them get therein their mind. So I think
painting those, you know, youknow, the analogies are just
painting pictures in people'sminds.

Speaker 2 (20:36):
It's very NLP.

Speaker 1 (20:38):
Okay. I don't understand disc as much as you
do, but

Speaker 2 (20:41):
I say you don't disc it. So, and I get, well, man,
you should take it. Doctor.Matt, thank you buddy. If you
ever hear this, Doctor Matt is aphenomenal teacher of NLP.

Speaker 1 (20:52):
Okay. Doctor Yeah.

Speaker 2 (20:54):
I've I've got the master certificate in NLP.

Speaker 1 (20:56):
That's What's his first name? Matt. What's his
last name?

Speaker 2 (21:02):
Wow. Well, shouldn't it be doctor I don't wanna
describe I mean, don't maybeit's too much. I'll open the
podcast.

Speaker 1 (21:07):
I've got a doctor. His name's Bradley Thomas.

Speaker 2 (21:09):
He's a doctor. No. He is our Okay. Doctor Matt dang
it. You're gonna make me look itup.

Speaker 1 (21:16):
Sorry. Don't worry about it. It doesn't matter.

Speaker 2 (21:18):
Sorry, Doctor. Matt. We're just

Speaker 1 (21:20):
showing time at this point.

Speaker 2 (21:21):
I should know. I should know it, though. I've
taken so many gourds. I spent somuch money on him. You think I
should know

Speaker 1 (21:29):
that by by heart? Well, you've done a lot of
stuff. You've done the taxperson knows. You've done the
Tony Robbins. You've TonyRobbins.
You've done all kinds ofleadership.

Speaker 2 (21:37):
Yeah. Yeah. So we'll talk about leadership stuff.

Speaker 1 (21:40):
Yeah. Leadership, code, influence. All kinds of

Speaker 2 (21:43):
stuff. Mhmm. Okay. Should we wrap up?

Speaker 1 (21:47):
I don't know. Before we do, I just wanna say as a
disclaimer that Diddy iscurrently innocent until proven
guilty. I think we spoke as ifhe was already convicted. This
Bro. This is America, and wejust have to give Diddy the the
benefit of the doubt.
Didn't he have, like, thousandsof gallons of baby oil? Yes. But

(22:09):
I think he has thousands oflawyers. And I don't want the
podcast getting back to him,with us talking about him at a
guilty lie because he's gonnahave a he could potentially have
a lot of time on his hands.Yeah.

Speaker 2 (22:20):
Free Diddy. Free

Speaker 1 (22:22):
No? No. That's Too much? I don't think Too far. I
don't think you're gonna get alot of support for that.
Probably not. No. Probably yeah.No.

Speaker 2 (22:29):
You know, don't need support then, actually. Sorry.

Speaker 1 (22:32):
Alright. Best of luck to those who are innocent. Good
luck. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (22:37):
Good luck. Hopefully, have good lawyers. Work for He
does. Is it too much? Maybe.

Speaker 1 (22:43):
Yeah. OJ was a long time ago. I feel like
celebrities are not immune nowto Yeah. To the law. I think
there was a time that there wassome immunity there.
But, you know, I mean, if you'reJay Leno and you're in your
Viper and you're doing 90 on thefreeway, four zero five on your
way home, you get pulled over,are you gonna get

Speaker 2 (23:02):
a ticket? Probably. Jay Leno? With that chin?

Speaker 1 (23:07):
Big hair, top down on the Viper, bright red, V12.

Speaker 2 (23:12):
Speak in person? He's amazing.

Speaker 1 (23:13):
I've never seen him in he does comedy shows in,
like, South Bay or Redondo orsomething.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
He's exactly who what we that he would be. Like

Speaker 1 (23:22):
Yeah. Chin is so big.

Speaker 2 (23:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (23:25):
I like the hair. I know. It's good to be with you.
You almost have Jay Leno ishhair. I'm working on it.
I don't know what your chinlooks like.

Speaker 2 (23:31):
Listen. I Nope. That's that's the reason I have
this. I love a chin. I'm justglad I have hair at almost 50
because none of my family does.
Yeah, man. It looks good. I'mlike, yeah. I beat you.

Speaker 1 (23:42):
It looks good on you, man. I like it.

Speaker 2 (23:45):
Alright. Well, we'll wrap up because, we could go on
forever about my hair and mychin.

Speaker 1 (23:49):
And Jay Leno and Diddy. Jay Leno and Diddy. All
the other secrets of This is Sowho do we bring up? We brought
up Zoe, Summer, Paris, Jay Leno.

Speaker 2 (23:59):
I'm really had to get the planner to make sure we stay
on track.

Speaker 1 (24:02):
Diddy. I mean, we've talked about a lot of people.

Speaker 2 (24:06):
For those who are listening, I promise I will make
sure that we stay on track.

Speaker 1 (24:11):
We will not be staying on track. I'm just
saying Can I close this out orare gonna close it? No. Go for
it, man. Thank you for joiningour first episode of Secrets of
Business and Life, also known asthe John and Sean's show.
Oh. John and Sean

Speaker 2 (24:29):
Sean John? Oh, we did that. No.

Speaker 1 (24:31):
Not No. We're No. We're not doing that. Alright.
Absolutely.
Anyway, I think you close it outbetter. You do. What's this
supposed to look like?

Speaker 2 (24:36):
Okay. Thanks for joining our show, and we really
appreciate your Patreon. You canleave our donations at no.
That's a different show.

Speaker 1 (24:45):
Oh, you already, like, like, drop follow us on
YouTube.

Speaker 2 (24:47):
Yeah. Oh, yeah. We should do that. I should you
know, I've done this before,actually. You know, I

Speaker 1 (24:54):
think everybody listening just wants it to end
at this

Speaker 2 (24:55):
point. Yeah. Me too. Alright. So follow us on
YouTube.
You know, push the little buttonthere and like us for god's sake
because that tells YouTube thatwe do a good job, especially on
the first episode. It's gonna bereally important. And then,
subscribe. Yes. Check us out onLinkedIn, and then, for sure, we

(25:17):
will be on the interweb.
You can go there. Give us alike. Give us a comment. Tell
us, how much you loved us or ifyou hated us. And if you hated
us, we're not gonna read that.
So

Speaker 1 (25:28):
Just give us the why. Just We'll we'll read it. We'll
read it.

Speaker 2 (25:31):
I won't read No?

Speaker 1 (25:32):
No. No. They won't. Somebody will read it and tell
you about it.

Speaker 2 (25:36):
Someone will, but then I'll cry. Alright.
Decoders, we'll see you nexttime on Thursday, apparently.
See you. Peace.
Peace.
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