December 3, 2025 • 14 mins
Your home shouldn’t feel like a decision you regret every time you sit down. Lauren goes solo to unpack the biggest myths that keep spaces cold, hesitant, and half-finished—and shares practical moves that make a room feel welcoming without a renovation. From tackling open plan confusion to choosing colours that turn shadow into mood, this conversation is a clear-eyed guide to building a home that behaves.
We start with the pain points we all face: decision fatigue after a big build, guests hovering because zones aren’t clear, and the fear of spending on the wrong thing. Lauren breaks down why white paint rarely helps small, low-light rooms and how deep greens, blues, or terracottas can create an inviting cocoon. She explains why larger rugs anchor a living area and visually expand space, how layered lighting signals where to gather, and the simple storage choices that tame daily clutter before you commit to custom joinery.
We also dig into the truth about grout lines, tile drench bathrooms, and the divisive charm of tiled benchtops. Lauren makes the case for mixing colours from room to room while keeping a consistent style language across the home. There’s a frank take on electric fireplaces that don’t quite sell the illusion, plus realistic paths to great design on a budget through focused consultations, marketplace finds, and vintage pieces with soul.
If you’re ready to swap hesitation for a plan, this episode will help you prioritise the moves that matter most. Subscribe, share with a friend who’s stuck on their lounge layout, and leave a five-star review to help others find the show. Then tell us: which design myth are you breaking first?
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Speaker (00:00):
Welcome to Design Anatomy, the Interior Design
Podcast hosted by friends andfellow designers, me, Lauren Li,
and Bree Banfield.
Unfortunately, the veryglamorous Bree is not joining me
today.
She is not well.
But I have something I want totalk to you about.
People don't believe me when Isay these things.
(00:22):
Now I've got over 20 years'experience in interior design,
but still I find there's a fewthings that I really uh struggle
to convey to people.
Like, believe me when I tellyou.
So I want to go through some ofthese things.
But before I start, um, I justwant to say thank you so much
for listening.
We are pretty blown away byseeing our podcast ranking right
(00:45):
up there in the charts againstsome pretty big names.
So thank you so much for tuningin.
Bree and I have got some reallygreat guests in the pipeline
that we are really excited tochat with.
And before I start about thethings that people don't
believe, is I just wanted toremind you that if you have any
(01:05):
questions or interior designdilemmas in your home, you can
um reach out to me.
I would love to help.
Bree and I both do our own uminterior design consultations.
I spoke to a really cool,lovely person yesterday over in
Perth.
We got a lot done and I feltreally, really happy that she
had really lovely feedback.
(01:27):
She felt really positive andwe, you know, being able to dive
into some of those things thatwere really stressing her out
and really couldn't make adecision.
So we were able to move forwardon that.
So she's over in Perth.
I'm in Melbourne, um helpingpeople all around the place.
I can meet you in person ifyou're in Melbourne.
I actually just got back from aconsultation just now.
(01:47):
The main things that I findpeople get stuck on is the whole
decision fatigue.
This uh lovely client that Imet this morning, she had built
this brand new house six yearsago.
And I think that there are justso many decisions you need to
make that when it came to theinteriors, like she was just
tapped out, she couldn't decideon anything more.
They had it was justparalyzing.
(02:09):
So I guess when you're feelinglike that, you don't decide on
anything.
So everything ends up being awhite, just quite empty.
Like um, her home looked great,but there were just some things
that she really didn't uh feelsatisfied with.
And she said it was literallykeeping her up at night.
I know the feeling.
Um, you know, things about notknowing how to lay out the
(02:32):
space.
And I mean, to tell you thetruth, it's really tough because
when you have a brand new home,open plan, is this the dining
or is this the living?
Or let's swap them over.
Like she was quite confusedabout the best way to put it
because, you know, there are nowalls that really clearly define
these areas.
So um she sort of keptrearranging until it sort of
felt right.
(02:52):
She felt like the whole the thehome felt cold and uninviting.
You know, when people cameover, they kind of just like
stood in the middle of thespace.
They didn't really feel likethey could sit down at the
dining, or do they sit down atthe island bench, or they didn't
really feel like they could sitdown in the living area.
So we're trying to make it feela lot more inviting.
The storage wasn't working, youknow, kids, shoes, things,
(03:14):
appliances, cords, dog toys, allof that.
But to commit to built-incabinetry, it's really
expensive, and you just want tomake sure that you are making
the right decision before youpush go.
I totally get that.
And sometimes there's just toomany colours, tones, different
timbers that feel like theydon't match.
So it just doesn't feelcohesive.
A big one is lighting.
(03:35):
The lighting feels wrong.
So uh what we want to work onwith it with this lady I met uh
this morning was just creatingsort of zones in the space using
lighting, some statementpendants, some wall lights, like
it will just make such a worldof difference.
But she really felt like thehouse doesn't reflect who she
was, and she's actuallystruggled with that since they
(03:56):
built it.
And it's hard, like it itdoesn't just come together by
magic.
Like it really takes quite abit of work, and I could tell
she had done a lot in the house,moved things around, tried
this, sold that, bought this,but she wasn't getting it to
feel like the way she wanted tofeel it that reflects her.
She's some really cool artwork,so I wanted to really encourage
(04:16):
her to bring some of thosecolours and just make the space
feel a whole lot more lively.
Anyway, I guess the main thingis it's just fear of spending a
lot of money on the wrong thing.
So that's where these, youknow, 90-minute consultations
are really great because we canget a lot done.
I can give you some sometimesit's confirmation, reassurance.
Sometimes it's like, wow,that's a lot.
(04:38):
Maybe we want to, you know,pick and choose what we want to
spend on.
I probably wouldn't spend it onthis, but maybe spend it on
that, that kind of feedback.
So when you're sort of uhconfused about what to spend
money on, then you just don't doanything.
And it just creates thishesitation and delays that they
go on for years.
So, you know, it's very, verycommon.
So if you're feeling like, ohmy god, I can't believe it's
(05:01):
been so long and I still haven'thad my home the way I want it
to be, don't worry, everyonethat I meet is in the same boat.
It's very common.
So if you want to get in touchwith me, you can just shoot me
an email, drop me an InstagramDM, and we can work out how we
want to work together.
Sometimes I will meet somebodyfor a consultation and they'll
want to they will want to engagein more of a full service,
(05:22):
which means that ongoingsupport, putting together a
really solid master plan.
But it depends.
I'm happy to help.
So I've been a designer for 20plus years, and still people
don't believe me when I say thatpainting a small room white
will not make it feel bigger.
I repeat, painting a small roomwhite will not make it feel
(05:42):
bigger.
I think that there's thisperception that if you have a
small room, you want to make itfeel bigger.
Okay, I challenge you to thinkabout why do you want to make it
feel better, bigger?
What is it that makes a bigroom better?
If it's a small room, why notlean in to the coziness of it
being a small room?
And actually, you know, eventalking to this about this
client that I met, the spaceswere almost too big.
(06:05):
That was the problem.
It made it really hard to feelwelcoming and cozy.
So sometimes a small room, notalways, but sometimes it can be
better because you can feelcocooned, you can feel safe, you
can feel secure, you can feelsuper cozy, and it's just
enough.
Sometimes when a room is toomassive, every little piece of
furniture just looks tiny and itjust looks disjointed and
(06:28):
bitsy.
So when you can kind of bringeverything into a smaller space,
sometimes that's that's a goodthing too.
Um, often we don't get tochoose, do we?
How big the space is.
So if you have a small room,say a guest room, for instance,
and you want to make it feelbigger, why not lean in to
making it feel inviting andbeautiful and cozy?
A white room that doesn't get alot of natural light, it
(06:50):
actually won't feel biggerbecause it creates a lot of grey
shadowing on the walls.
So when you go in for a color,say like a green or a blue or
something, you don't get thoseshadowy effects as much.
It's more mood.
It feels atmospheric.
It feels so much better whenit's a colour.
So that's the main one.
I will die on that hill.
(07:10):
I'm pretty sure Bree wouldagree.
Small rooms, when they'repainted white, they're always
going to be a small room.
It'll just feel pokey, shadowy,and it will never feel bigger.
My second one is people don'tbelieve me when I say that grout
lines won't kill you.
You will be okay.
It will be fine.
Now, what are we talking about?
We're talking about there's atime and a place for smaller
(07:34):
tiles.
I wouldn't really go for apenny round tile or a really
small mosaic in a shower on ashower floor.
I don't want to give myself allof that extra cleaning because
it will kind of discolor thegrout from the floor up.
But you know, you could go fora 10 by 10 centimeter tile.
Do you know what I mean?
Like a small tile, a smallerformat.
(07:56):
It just looks great.
I would recommend doing a fulltile drench throughout a whole
bathroom.
We're not really seeing thefeature wall thing happening
anymore with large formatporcelain on the floor and then
on all of the walls and thenjust one feature mosaic or
something.
That's not really what we'reseeing.
We're we're seeing this fulltile drench where it's, you
(08:18):
know, you might have your largerformat porcelain on the floor,
to be fair.
That is very practical.
And then go for a smallerformat on all of the walls.
One tile.
So grout lines won't kill you.
And you know, we've talkedabout it before.
Tiled bench tops.
I'm here for it.
I know it's divisive, but itjust adds a really great texture
(08:40):
to a room, and tiles are superhard wearing.
This is nothing new.
Tiles have been used forcenturies, right?
Okay, people don't believe mewhen I say always go for the
larger rug to visually expandthe space.
Now, rugs are a whole thing,aren't they?
Because it's a pricing thing,you know, they they get quite
expensive the larger that yougo.
(09:00):
You will not regret a rug whereall of your furniture sits on
top of the rug.
That's ideally what we want todo.
And you know, in an open planspace, a smaller rug, it just
doesn't feel inviting.
It doesn't, it doesn't createthat zone in the space.
It's just uh this little kindof postage stamp floating in the
furniture.
It doesn't look right.
(09:20):
So we're always going for thelarger rug and it really
visually expands the space.
It won't make the space feelsmaller having a big rug.
In fact, I would sort of saythat for furniture in general.
If you have a small space, it'stempting to go for a small
sofa, small coffee table, smallside table, small arm chair,
small, small, small.
It can feel small and bitsy.
(09:41):
If you go for sort of a larger,almost like a modular sofa, it
actually visually expands thespace.
Now, another thing that peopledon't believe me when I say that
electric fireplaces aren'tfooling anyone.
I know it's always one of thosethings.
Gas fireplaces aren't what theyused to be.
That was kind of replacing atimber, a wood burning fireplace
(10:02):
for a gas.
Now gas isn't always connectedor people don't want to have
gas.
So the next option is electricfireplaces, but they're really,
I would just not even botherwith a fireplace at all because
they're just not fooling anyone.
So unless you can go for a woodbar burning one, I think we're
a bit stuck with fireplaces atthe moment.
But tell me, tell me what I'mif if I'm missing something,
(10:24):
write me a little note.
Tell me I want to be provenwrong on that because it's a
bit, it's a bit of a hard one.
Another thing people don'tbelieve me when I say is that
rooms can be painted differentcolors.
You don't have to have onecolor scheme throughout your
whole home.
In fact, I would say don't dothat.
You want to create a differentfeeling, a different mood, a
different function in differentrooms.
(10:46):
So you can use differentcolours.
I would say though, don'tchoose different styles for
different rooms.
Like you don't want to have aroom that feels, I don't know,
beachy and Hamptons, and then gointo a living room that has a
mid-century vibe.
Like, do you know what I mean?
Like that feels like you'regoing into a theme park or
something.
But you can paint roomsdifferent colors, and I
(11:08):
encourage that.
And don't be afraid of doingthat.
And I'm talking about acrossthe spectrum.
You can have a front room in aterracotta color.
You could have a bedroom in adeep blue color.
I think as long as the theoverall style is kind of working
together, then you're you'regood.
Another thing that people don'tbelieve me when I say that
interior design is only for thewealthy.
(11:29):
It isn't.
Interior design is not just forthe elite.
And I mean, this is somethingI've really struggled with
because when you in employ aninterior design professional,
it's like I've said before, it'slike ordering a wedding dress.
Okay.
A wedding dress is you choosethe style, you choose the
fabric.
It is fit to suit your body.
(11:51):
And one person or a team ofpeople, they make that wedding
dress just for you.
They can't then resell thatwedding dress for the next
person that comes in.
Do you know what I mean?
It's a bespoke thing for you.
So anything that you're payingfor that it's just made only for
you and can't be resold on,that's gonna cost more money.
And I've really struggled withthat because I want everybody to
(12:12):
enjoy their home and love wherethey live.
I'm I'm really passionate aboutthat because I know it can
really affect the way that youfeel.
And in the past six months orso, that's why I've leaned into
doing these consultationsbecause I would meet these cool
people, these cool clients, andthey just didn't have the budget
to engage me on a full servicecapacity.
And I have to say, I don'treally see a lot of other
(12:35):
designers doing consultations.
And I I feel I feel I find itreally fulfilling actually being
able to give advice to peopleand then off they go on their
merry way with a bit of aroadmap and they can get their
home close to how that reflectstheir own personality and they
can do that in their own time.
So interior design is not justfor the wealthy, and also we
(12:57):
have amazing resources.
I mean, Facebook Marketplacefor one, I have to say, I also
found an amazing um lounge chairthat was made in Australia on
the side of the road the otherday.
So I think if you've got thisstuff on your radar and you just
keep keep a lookout, look atLeonard Joel vintage sellers,
look at markets.
Um, it doesn't all have to beexpensive, it doesn't all have
(13:18):
to be brand new.
In fact, I think that everyspace needs something old and
with character.
So there are a couple of thingsthat I feel like people don't
believe me when I say, but I Ihave to I have to stand by that.
So, okay, guys, I'm going tofinish up now.
Uh, I have to say, I had themost amazing chat to somebody in
(13:40):
France the other day, and hegave me some great tips.
And we are going to we'recreating this incredible tour
for the guys that are coming onour Paris and Milan trip.
I have to say, as we weretalking about places to go and
things to see, I was reallyemotional.
Oh my god, Paris, Milan, it'sjust the best.
(14:02):
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Now, if you want to get on thewait list, try to put a link
there.
I have to see if I can updatethat wait list because we've had
such a great response and Ithink every year it's going to
get better and better.
So that's something that Breeand I are sort of working on
behind the scenes as well.
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Welcome to Design Anatomy, the Interior Design
Podcast hosted by friends andfellow designers, me, Lauren Li,
and Bree Banfield.
Unfortunately, the veryglamorous Bree is not joining me
today.
She is not well.
But I have something I want totalk to you about.
People don't believe me when Isay these things.
(00:22):
Now I've got over 20 years'experience in interior design,
but still I find there's a fewthings that I really uh struggle
to convey to people.
Like, believe me when I tellyou.
So I want to go through some ofthese things.
But before I start, um, I justwant to say thank you so much
for listening.
We are pretty blown away byseeing our podcast ranking right
(00:45):
up there in the charts againstsome pretty big names.
So thank you so much for tuningin.
Bree and I have got some reallygreat guests in the pipeline
that we are really excited tochat with.
And before I start about thethings that people don't
believe, is I just wanted toremind you that if you have any
(01:05):
questions or interior designdilemmas in your home, you can
um reach out to me.
I would love to help.
Bree and I both do our own uminterior design consultations.
I spoke to a really cool,lovely person yesterday over in
Perth.
We got a lot done and I feltreally, really happy that she
had really lovely feedback.
(01:27):
She felt really positive andwe, you know, being able to dive
into some of those things thatwere really stressing her out
and really couldn't make adecision.
So we were able to move forwardon that.
So she's over in Perth.
I'm in Melbourne, um helpingpeople all around the place.
I can meet you in person ifyou're in Melbourne.
I actually just got back from aconsultation just now.
(01:47):
The main things that I findpeople get stuck on is the whole
decision fatigue.
This uh lovely client that Imet this morning, she had built
this brand new house six yearsago.
And I think that there are justso many decisions you need to
make that when it came to theinteriors, like she was just
tapped out, she couldn't decideon anything more.
They had it was justparalyzing.
(02:09):
So I guess when you're feelinglike that, you don't decide on
anything.
So everything ends up being awhite, just quite empty.
Like um, her home looked great,but there were just some things
that she really didn't uh feelsatisfied with.
And she said it was literallykeeping her up at night.
I know the feeling.
Um, you know, things about notknowing how to lay out the
(02:32):
space.
And I mean, to tell you thetruth, it's really tough because
when you have a brand new home,open plan, is this the dining
or is this the living?
Or let's swap them over.
Like she was quite confusedabout the best way to put it
because, you know, there are nowalls that really clearly define
these areas.
So um she sort of keptrearranging until it sort of
felt right.
(02:52):
She felt like the whole the thehome felt cold and uninviting.
You know, when people cameover, they kind of just like
stood in the middle of thespace.
They didn't really feel likethey could sit down at the
dining, or do they sit down atthe island bench, or they didn't
really feel like they could sitdown in the living area.
So we're trying to make it feela lot more inviting.
The storage wasn't working, youknow, kids, shoes, things,
(03:14):
appliances, cords, dog toys, allof that.
But to commit to built-incabinetry, it's really
expensive, and you just want tomake sure that you are making
the right decision before youpush go.
I totally get that.
And sometimes there's just toomany colours, tones, different
timbers that feel like theydon't match.
So it just doesn't feelcohesive.
A big one is lighting.
(03:35):
The lighting feels wrong.
So uh what we want to work onwith it with this lady I met uh
this morning was just creatingsort of zones in the space using
lighting, some statementpendants, some wall lights, like
it will just make such a worldof difference.
But she really felt like thehouse doesn't reflect who she
was, and she's actuallystruggled with that since they
(03:56):
built it.
And it's hard, like it itdoesn't just come together by
magic.
Like it really takes quite abit of work, and I could tell
she had done a lot in the house,moved things around, tried
this, sold that, bought this,but she wasn't getting it to
feel like the way she wanted tofeel it that reflects her.
She's some really cool artwork,so I wanted to really encourage
(04:16):
her to bring some of thosecolours and just make the space
feel a whole lot more lively.
Anyway, I guess the main thingis it's just fear of spending a
lot of money on the wrong thing.
So that's where these, youknow, 90-minute consultations
are really great because we canget a lot done.
I can give you some sometimesit's confirmation, reassurance.
Sometimes it's like, wow,that's a lot.
(04:38):
Maybe we want to, you know,pick and choose what we want to
spend on.
I probably wouldn't spend it onthis, but maybe spend it on
that, that kind of feedback.
So when you're sort of uhconfused about what to spend
money on, then you just don't doanything.
And it just creates thishesitation and delays that they
go on for years.
So, you know, it's very, verycommon.
So if you're feeling like, ohmy god, I can't believe it's
(05:01):
been so long and I still haven'thad my home the way I want it
to be, don't worry, everyonethat I meet is in the same boat.
It's very common.
So if you want to get in touchwith me, you can just shoot me
an email, drop me an InstagramDM, and we can work out how we
want to work together.
Sometimes I will meet somebodyfor a consultation and they'll
want to they will want to engagein more of a full service,
(05:22):
which means that ongoingsupport, putting together a
really solid master plan.
But it depends.
I'm happy to help.
So I've been a designer for 20plus years, and still people
don't believe me when I say thatpainting a small room white
will not make it feel bigger.
I repeat, painting a small roomwhite will not make it feel
(05:42):
bigger.
I think that there's thisperception that if you have a
small room, you want to make itfeel bigger.
Okay, I challenge you to thinkabout why do you want to make it
feel better, bigger?
What is it that makes a bigroom better?
If it's a small room, why notlean in to the coziness of it
being a small room?
And actually, you know, eventalking to this about this
client that I met, the spaceswere almost too big.
(06:05):
That was the problem.
It made it really hard to feelwelcoming and cozy.
So sometimes a small room, notalways, but sometimes it can be
better because you can feelcocooned, you can feel safe, you
can feel secure, you can feelsuper cozy, and it's just
enough.
Sometimes when a room is toomassive, every little piece of
furniture just looks tiny and itjust looks disjointed and
(06:28):
bitsy.
So when you can kind of bringeverything into a smaller space,
sometimes that's that's a goodthing too.
Um, often we don't get tochoose, do we?
How big the space is.
So if you have a small room,say a guest room, for instance,
and you want to make it feelbigger, why not lean in to
making it feel inviting andbeautiful and cozy?
A white room that doesn't get alot of natural light, it
(06:50):
actually won't feel biggerbecause it creates a lot of grey
shadowing on the walls.
So when you go in for a color,say like a green or a blue or
something, you don't get thoseshadowy effects as much.
It's more mood.
It feels atmospheric.
It feels so much better whenit's a colour.
So that's the main one.
I will die on that hill.
(07:10):
I'm pretty sure Bree wouldagree.
Small rooms, when they'repainted white, they're always
going to be a small room.
It'll just feel pokey, shadowy,and it will never feel bigger.
My second one is people don'tbelieve me when I say that grout
lines won't kill you.
You will be okay.
It will be fine.
Now, what are we talking about?
We're talking about there's atime and a place for smaller
(07:34):
tiles.
I wouldn't really go for apenny round tile or a really
small mosaic in a shower on ashower floor.
I don't want to give myself allof that extra cleaning because
it will kind of discolor thegrout from the floor up.
But you know, you could go fora 10 by 10 centimeter tile.
Do you know what I mean?
Like a small tile, a smallerformat.
(07:56):
It just looks great.
I would recommend doing a fulltile drench throughout a whole
bathroom.
We're not really seeing thefeature wall thing happening
anymore with large formatporcelain on the floor and then
on all of the walls and thenjust one feature mosaic or
something.
That's not really what we'reseeing.
We're we're seeing this fulltile drench where it's, you
(08:18):
know, you might have your largerformat porcelain on the floor,
to be fair.
That is very practical.
And then go for a smallerformat on all of the walls.
One tile.
So grout lines won't kill you.
And you know, we've talkedabout it before.
Tiled bench tops.
I'm here for it.
I know it's divisive, but itjust adds a really great texture
(08:40):
to a room, and tiles are superhard wearing.
This is nothing new.
Tiles have been used forcenturies, right?
Okay, people don't believe mewhen I say always go for the
larger rug to visually expandthe space.
Now, rugs are a whole thing,aren't they?
Because it's a pricing thing,you know, they they get quite
expensive the larger that yougo.
(09:00):
You will not regret a rug whereall of your furniture sits on
top of the rug.
That's ideally what we want todo.
And you know, in an open planspace, a smaller rug, it just
doesn't feel inviting.
It doesn't, it doesn't createthat zone in the space.
It's just uh this little kindof postage stamp floating in the
furniture.
It doesn't look right.
(09:20):
So we're always going for thelarger rug and it really
visually expands the space.
It won't make the space feelsmaller having a big rug.
In fact, I would sort of saythat for furniture in general.
If you have a small space, it'stempting to go for a small
sofa, small coffee table, smallside table, small arm chair,
small, small, small.
It can feel small and bitsy.
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If you go for sort of a larger,almost like a modular sofa, it
actually visually expands thespace.
Now, another thing that peopledon't believe me when I say that
electric fireplaces aren'tfooling anyone.
I know it's always one of thosethings.
Gas fireplaces aren't what theyused to be.
That was kind of replacing atimber, a wood burning fireplace
(10:02):
for a gas.
Now gas isn't always connectedor people don't want to have
gas.
So the next option is electricfireplaces, but they're really,
I would just not even botherwith a fireplace at all because
they're just not fooling anyone.
So unless you can go for a woodbar burning one, I think we're
a bit stuck with fireplaces atthe moment.
But tell me, tell me what I'mif if I'm missing something,
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write me a little note.
Tell me I want to be provenwrong on that because it's a
bit, it's a bit of a hard one.
Another thing people don'tbelieve me when I say is that
rooms can be painted differentcolors.
You don't have to have onecolor scheme throughout your
whole home.
In fact, I would say don't dothat.
You want to create a differentfeeling, a different mood, a
different function in differentrooms.
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So you can use differentcolours.
I would say though, don'tchoose different styles for
different rooms.
Like you don't want to have aroom that feels, I don't know,
beachy and Hamptons, and then gointo a living room that has a
mid-century vibe.
Like, do you know what I mean?
Like that feels like you'regoing into a theme park or
something.
But you can paint roomsdifferent colors, and I
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encourage that.
And don't be afraid of doingthat.
And I'm talking about acrossthe spectrum.
You can have a front room in aterracotta color.
You could have a bedroom in adeep blue color.
I think as long as the theoverall style is kind of working
together, then you're you'regood.
Another thing that people don'tbelieve me when I say that
interior design is only for thewealthy.
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It isn't.
Interior design is not just forthe elite.
And I mean, this is somethingI've really struggled with
because when you in employ aninterior design professional,
it's like I've said before, it'slike ordering a wedding dress.
Okay.
A wedding dress is you choosethe style, you choose the
fabric.
It is fit to suit your body.
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And one person or a team ofpeople, they make that wedding
dress just for you.
They can't then resell thatwedding dress for the next
person that comes in.
Do you know what I mean?
It's a bespoke thing for you.
So anything that you're payingfor that it's just made only for
you and can't be resold on,that's gonna cost more money.
And I've really struggled withthat because I want everybody to
(12:12):
enjoy their home and love wherethey live.
I'm I'm really passionate aboutthat because I know it can
really affect the way that youfeel.
And in the past six months orso, that's why I've leaned into
doing these consultationsbecause I would meet these cool
people, these cool clients, andthey just didn't have the budget
to engage me on a full servicecapacity.
And I have to say, I don'treally see a lot of other
(12:35):
designers doing consultations.
And I I feel I feel I find itreally fulfilling actually being
able to give advice to peopleand then off they go on their
merry way with a bit of aroadmap and they can get their
home close to how that reflectstheir own personality and they
can do that in their own time.
So interior design is not justfor the wealthy, and also we
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have amazing resources.
I mean, Facebook Marketplacefor one, I have to say, I also
found an amazing um lounge chairthat was made in Australia on
the side of the road the otherday.
So I think if you've got thisstuff on your radar and you just
keep keep a lookout, look atLeonard Joel vintage sellers,
look at markets.
Um, it doesn't all have to beexpensive, it doesn't all have
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to be brand new.
In fact, I think that everyspace needs something old and
with character.
So there are a couple of thingsthat I feel like people don't
believe me when I say, but I Ihave to I have to stand by that.
So, okay, guys, I'm going tofinish up now.
Uh, I have to say, I had themost amazing chat to somebody in
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France the other day, and hegave me some great tips.
And we are going to we'recreating this incredible tour
for the guys that are coming onour Paris and Milan trip.
I have to say, as we weretalking about places to go and
things to see, I was reallyemotional.
Oh my god, Paris, Milan, it'sjust the best.
(14:02):
So we are busy planning thetrip for April.
Now, if you want to get on thewait list, try to put a link
there.
I have to see if I can updatethat wait list because we've had
such a great response and Ithink every year it's going to
get better and better.
So that's something that Breeand I are sort of working on
behind the scenes as well.
All right, well, over and out.
Have a beautiful week andthanks again for listening.
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They're the OG custodians ofthis unceded land and its
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