October 8, 2025 • 33 mins
Your home changes the moment the lights come on. We unpack how to design that moment with intention—layering pendants, sconces, table lamps and portables—so evenings feel warm, useful and calm without relying on a ceiling full of downlights. With our shared love of colour, we explain why lighting often matters just as much for mood, comfort and character, and we walk through specific fixtures that deliver both beauty and function.
We start with a clear framework: ambient light for glow, task light for clarity, and accent light to draw the eye. Then we get practical.
Bree & Lauren share some of their favourite lights from Flos’ Superwire pendant that hides a smart downlight to Time & Style’s refined washi shades, we explore pieces that shift a room from flat to layered.
We talk through Articolo’s 12:40 sconce and its clever forward/back glow, Marz Designs’ handcrafted Australian options, and the quiet revolution of portable lamps—perfect for renters, dining tables and outdoor evenings.
If you love icons, we spotlight Wästberg’s Chipperfield lamp and the Snoopy table lamp classic for timeless pools of flattering light. If sculpture is your thing, meet Guy Bareff’s illuminated forms. For architectural texture, we look at Volker Haug x Flack Studio’s Bruce. And for daily ritual, the Santa & Cole Cesta lamp delivers a soft lantern glow you’ll reach for every night.
You’ll also get budget-friendly strategies: where to hunt vintage, how a simple paper shade can transform a room, and what to watch for with limited-edition collaborations. If this sparked ideas, subscribe, share with a design-loving friend, and leave a quick review—what’s the one light you can’t live without?
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SPEAKER_00 (00:01):
Welcome to Design Anatomy, the Interior Design
Podcast hosted by friends andfellow designers, me, Bree
Banfield.
And me, Lauren Lee, with someamazing guest appearances along
the way.
We're here to break downeverything from current trends
to timeless style.
SPEAKER_01 (00:16):
With a shared passion for joyful,
colour-filled and lived-inspaces, we're excited to share
our insights and inspirationwith you.
So, Bri, what's been going onthis week?
SPEAKER_00 (00:27):
Oh, everything.
I feel like we're hitting thattime of year, aren't we, where
everything wraps up just alittle bit.
SPEAKER_01 (00:35):
As we head towards Christmas.
SPEAKER_00 (00:37):
But and we're still working away on um finishing a
website, new website, with lotsof content ready to go out.
So jump on and subscribe to ournewsletter so you can be the
first people to see what we'redoing.
SPEAKER_01 (00:51):
So much fun.
I know it's like I was gonnasay, I really got a Christmas
party invitation, but that's notreally rude, is it?
But no.
SPEAKER_00 (00:59):
This is the I think everyone's just scaring us with
like talk of Christmas, butsomeone said to me the other
day, so it'd be less now.
It was 90 days until Christmas.
And so I think it was maybe lastweek.
So there you go.
SPEAKER_01 (01:13):
There you go.
I know I feel like it's uh youneed to really decide what
you're gonna do for the next fewmonths and really give it like
that last push, you know.
SPEAKER_00 (01:21):
That's where I'm at.
Calendar sorting, all of thatstuff, make sure you achieve
what you wanted to achieve.
SPEAKER_01 (01:27):
Yeah, you only got 90 days to do it.
I know, right?
Um, I was thinking well, I Iwent down to Sorrento yesterday
and had a really funconsultation with some um
clients.
It's just an interior designconsultation, like we just give
advice on the spot and give themthe notes back.
And I thought, you know, ifyou're listening and you're
thinking, oh gosh, I think Ineed to do that.
(01:47):
I want to round that out beforethe end of the year.
You know, you can contact Bree,you can contact myself.
SPEAKER_00 (01:53):
And it's the time to do it, isn't it?
SPEAKER_01 (01:55):
Yeah, now's the time.
Like, you know, you can get theget the advice that you need and
maybe even start implementingsome of it over the Christmas
break if you've got somedowntime.
SPEAKER_00 (02:04):
Yeah, I've got a couple that I also just did last
week that have jumped straighton and are basically fast
tracking things so they canorder it and have it before
Christmas.
But you know, we we canobviously look at in-stock items
and things like that.
So things can still be done.
SPEAKER_01 (02:20):
Yeah, totally, totally.
Um, I'm excited tomorrow becauseI'm holding one of my workshops
for the design process.
Oh, amazing.
Yeah, so I was in Sydney theother day and hanging out at the
Ace Hotel.
I was just hoping for some ofthe cool vibes to rub off on me,
but unfortunately it didn't.
You're cooler than the Ace.
(02:41):
It's so gorgeous there, isn'tit?
But um, we're we're gonna be atuh the forum in Cremon, so it's
like a beautiful co-workingspace tomorrow.
That's exciting.
And then if you are you knowinterstate or you're thinking,
oh god, I'd love to do that, butI just can't carve out the time,
I get it.
So we're doing this online aswell.
(03:01):
So you can jump online with us.
It's like a live learningsession on Zoom.
We go through the content, askme questions, like put me on the
spot, like ask all of thethings, like if you've got
something that's in the back ofyour mind, or but how does she
do that?
Like, I want to know, you canask.
So it's really good, and I haveto say, I think we're quite used
to talking online.
I mean, you and I we talk onlineall every week, obviously.
(03:25):
Um, but it's uh you can createthat really nice sense of
community online online too.
SPEAKER_00 (03:31):
Absolutely, I think so.
Yeah, it's great you get to doboth.
You've got that um access forpeople who can't be there in
person, and the people that wantto be there in person and soak
up all the lorineness can bethere.
SPEAKER_01 (03:43):
Oh god.
Well, I think the thing with theonline as well is that it's
recorded, so you can think, oh,you know what?
I can't catch, I can't catch itthis week.
But when I'm in the car, I'mgonna just let that play and
listen along whilst I'm doingsomething else.
Perfect.
Just like us.
I'm sure you're in the car rightnow listening to us somewhere.
Exactly.
(04:04):
So today we want to talk aboutlighting, and I feel like
because we are so we are suchbig believers in the power of
colour and how that can changethe way you feel in a space.
I think we prioritize colour, wethink about colour a lot, but
I'd have to say a very closesecond would be lighting.
SPEAKER_00 (04:23):
Totally, and I feel like we do, we do seem to
mention a lot because we justknow what a massive difference
it makes in a space.
And that's just the lightingsource, right?
What we're gonna talk abouttoday is also what looks
amazing, not just functionsreally well.
You know, it's just such a, Idon't know, it's the I like to
(04:43):
think it's like the jewelry inthe interior, like they're often
the little pretty things or Idon't know, the small little
statement things that kind ofmake the make or break the space
in a way.
SPEAKER_01 (04:54):
True.
I actually met with a potentialclient this morning and she said
that her husband really loveslike soft moody lighting.
I was like, what a cool thingabout you to say I was like, all
right, let's cut, let's havesome fun with the lighting.
And especially when you've got,you know, a space that feels
quite open and like a bigvolume.
I think lighting is key inmaking it feel like in the
(05:16):
evenings that you are a sense ofatmosphere, a sense of
enclosure.
Yeah, and just layering on allthe different types of lighting.
So we're gonna share our topfive lights.
Do you want to start, Brees?
I'm give it a go.
SPEAKER_00 (05:31):
Um, okay, so uh in no particular order for me, and
I could probably uh I do have aslight lamp obsession, so I
haven't, I've tried not to gotoo crazy and just it all be
lamps.
So I'm in the club.
Start with, I don't write.
Start with a um with a pendant,and that's the super wire
suspension pendant designed byformer Phantasma for floss.
(05:54):
Ooh, let me see.
So it's very elegant, but Ithink it's also quite industrial
looking.
So it's uh elongated, there's afew different types, but the one
I'm talking about is thependant, sort of an elongated
shape, and then at each end is ahexagon shape.
So the actual facets are in ahexagon.
And I think what I love about itis even though it sort of has
(06:17):
this industrial kind of vibe,it's not heavy, it's really
light.
It's like a I think it's a castaluminium or a polished
aluminium detail.
And the light is LED, but it'slike a new technology.
So it's like a like an LED, likea band.
So it's a long continuous light.
(06:37):
So inside each pendant sectionis like these beautiful long LED
light sources that I don't know,it kind of reminds me of, you
know, the fancy lights, the withthe, you know, that you put in
the exposed, uh, the exposedthose globes you put in the
exposed kind of pendants thathave the fancy, uh it's like an
old-fashioned filament, the bitthat lights up.
(07:00):
Filament, that's the word.
Oh, so it's like a really longfilament.
So it almost kind of has like aneon vibe to it, but it's not
neon, it's got this beautifulsoft glow to it, and it's it's L
E T.
Okay, so there's strips.
It's called the Super Wiresuspension pendant.
Oh, right.
I think Lemming Edge probablystock it over here.
Um the floss slider, or there'llbe other stockers as well.
(07:23):
And the other cool thing it doesfrom a functionality, so it's
beautiful, but from a umfunctionality point of view, so
there's three sort of sections,these elongated hexagon sections
with the facets that you can seethe lights in.
In the middle of those is like ahidden down light.
So if it's over a kitchen or adining table and you need light
(07:43):
on the surface below, not justambient, it's got a little down
light there.
So it's quite cool.
SPEAKER_01 (07:49):
I think that might be my new favorite light too.
SPEAKER_00 (07:52):
I think you would love it.
I think we would really love it.
And it I think there's a floorlamp and some other versions of
it in the same thing.
But yeah, it's just it's it'sgot such a warmth to it, a
lightness to it, and yet it hasthat great kind of industrial
architectural edge to it.
Like that's what I kind of likeabout it.
SPEAKER_01 (08:09):
Yeah, it does.
I think that filament goingrunning through that shape.
It does, it doesn't feel techy,it feels sort of there's a
nostalgic vibe, something.
Yes, yes, yeah.
I love it.
SPEAKER_00 (08:21):
Um, what's yours?
What's your first one?
SPEAKER_01 (08:24):
There's a light that I've seen.
I mean, I love the Akari lights.
I love those.
The rice paper lights that yousee.
You see like a huge big uh ricepaper sort of sphere.
Rice paper.
No, that's the one that you eat,isn't it?
SPEAKER_00 (08:39):
I don't know if that's I think it might be is it
rice paper?
SPEAKER_01 (08:42):
Is it rice paper can be?
SPEAKER_00 (08:43):
Well, I know that um the traditional, you're washi,
the traditional lamps are um,but I think let's say washi.
SPEAKER_01 (08:50):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (08:50):
Anyway, we know what you mean.
SPEAKER_01 (08:51):
Yeah, they're you know, they're beautiful.
Uh I think they're classic, butI do want to sometimes think of
something different.
There was a light that I saw, Ithink it was in a name drop now,
when I went to StockholmFurniture Fair, it was five
years ago, by this brand calledTime and Style.
(09:12):
Oh yeah, yeah.
They're exceptional.
So the they're the washi paperas well, but they have like a
bent wood frame.
So they're a little bit morestructured than the Akari
lights.
And you don't, I mean, the Akarilights, I get the appeal because
it's that beautiful glow and allof the things, but you do see
them a lot in interiors.
(09:33):
They have, yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (09:34):
And unfortunately, they are one of those lamps that
have been copied a bit, and asmuch as I love them, uh I feel
like that always diminishes howmuch we want to use it.
But yes, yes, yeah.
I know the ones you're talkingabout, they're just I guess a
little bit more unique now,right?
SPEAKER_01 (09:49):
Yeah, the the ones by time and style, they are a
bit more unique.
They still give you thatbeautiful warm glow.
Um I mean the Akari ones arevery refined, but I think these
ones are a little next levelrefined.
Um and they're stunning and theyhave a pretty stunning price
point to match as well.
SPEAKER_00 (10:08):
Honestly, um, I when I put this list together, I
went, ooh, I probably shouldhave added some kind of more
affordable ones, but this is allvery aspirational, you know.
We'll we'll tell you the thingsthat are beautiful and why.
That's right.
Maybe we'll do another uhpodcast of like, you know,
here's this, but what aboutthis?
Yeah.
So we've got options.
(10:30):
Um I just looked up washi paper,by the way.
It is rice paper.
Washi paper is rice paper.
Oh, interesting.
It's made from the inner bark ofthe mulberry tree.
It's a type of rice paper.
Well, it says a type of ricepaper.
Oh, okay, cool.
Derived from the inner bark of amulberry tree.
So maybe it's maybe rice papermeans not necessarily made from
rice.
I don't know.
(10:51):
Yeah, we have to dive deeperinto that.
Yeah, that's a whole thing.
SPEAKER_01 (10:56):
But I was curious, I was like, oh, is it rice paper?
Yeah, I don't know.
When I said rice paper, I waslike, no, isn't that what you
wrap like wontons in and stuff?
SPEAKER_00 (11:05):
No, yeah, uh, or nougar.
Oh, you know how you've got thepaper on the nougar and you can
eat it.
I love it.
Well, my next one is some wallsconces from Articolo, which is
probably we both love Articoloas a brand.
Stunning lighting.
(11:25):
I feel like I've used them a bitin projects where it's just the
thing that elabates the room,like absolutely invested in
these beautiful lights, and youcan tell that they're quality
and you know that they're a bitspecial.
So they did release a few newlights earlier this year, I
think.
We saw them over in Milan, andone of them is the 1240, which
(11:46):
is a long wall sconce.
But what's really cool is youcan have it forward-facing light
or back facing light.
So forward facing, you see, youknow, the ambient light, and
back facing you have like asurface, say it's um traboteen
or stone, and the light kind ofemanates from behind onto the
wall.
So I think it's just like areally beautiful elegance.
(12:07):
I love the the scale of it aswell.
Like it's not too big, but it'slike big enough to kind of
perfect kind of bathroom lightnext to a mirror, especially the
ambient one or hallway light,you know, next to beds over
bedsides.
But yeah, I mean, I do reallylove their stuff and I love the
finishes they offer.
They're all sort of quitebeautiful finishes, you know,
(12:29):
they have a lot of differentbrass and stone combinations,
and their glass, like thatbeautiful blown glass that they
use, is quite gorgeous.
Exceptional.
SPEAKER_01 (12:37):
I think when I first saw that light, I was so excited
because it just fills such a gapin projects.
Like as you say, the bathroomvanity.
When you want to put your makeupon, you can pivot that light so
it's shining onto your face, butin the evenings you can pivot it
and it shines onto the wall, asyou say.
So you're getting more of thatambient light.
(12:58):
So it's kind of two lights inone.
SPEAKER_00 (13:00):
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (13:01):
I was so excited.
I love it.
And Nikki is such a cooldesigner.
SPEAKER_00 (13:05):
She is, yeah.
Great company.
SPEAKER_01 (13:07):
Yeah.
I have another that I want toshare, which is uh also a female
designer.
Um, her name is Coco Reynolds,and her brand is called Mars.
She's so cool.
Yeah.
So she has been designinglighting, I feel like for a long
time.
It said on her website that herbusiness was founded in 2019,
but I remember her going wayback.
(13:28):
Maybe it was under her own namethen.
SPEAKER_00 (13:30):
That's really interesting because absolutely.
Um, that might be, I thinkperhaps it was a different name,
but you remember the bead light,the pendant?
Yeah.
So it was all these wooden beadsand then an exposed bulb.
That was ages ago.
Oh no, no, would have been.
I was definitely before 2019.
(13:50):
Yeah, yeah.
But I know that was horriblycopaged, like everywhere copage,
and that was reallydisappointing because it was
such a great lie, and then Ifeel like it was everywhere.
So yeah.
Yeah.
Anyway, yes, I think she hasbeen around longer.
SPEAKER_01 (14:05):
Yeah, but there's and she maybe it's now she's
based in Byron Bay, and so theywork with a lot of local
artisans in that area.
But there's I I I tried tochoose one, but I honestly
couldn't choose.
And I think the the thing isthey're all really um, depending
on the application, they're madeto order, they're handcrafted.
They use a lot of differentnatural materials, yeah, like
(14:27):
ceramics, timber, metals.
Um, and I think she's quiteaffordable too, don't you?
It's doable.
Yeah, yeah.
They're doable.
There's some in glass that'sabsolutely stunning.
Totally.
I um, you know, Articular, Ilove them, but they they are
sometimes a bit of a push to getthem into projects.
SPEAKER_00 (14:45):
Yeah, that it's a high-end product for that.
SPEAKER_01 (14:47):
It's a high-end product, and you know, Mars
Designs has high-end product aswell, but there are also other
options which are doable, moreaffordable, gorgeous feature
lighting, wall, especially thewall lights.
I think she does amazing walllights.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (15:01):
Me too.
I love them.
Gorgeous.
And she's just such a beautifulperson.
I love being able to support afemale designer doing really
well, and particularly in thatkind of field.
Definitely.
Not just interiors, but actuallyproduct design.
Yeah, yeah.
Very cool.
All right, I'll uh go on to acute one, which is also launched
this year at Milan, which is theGelato Portable Lab.
(15:24):
Do you remember this?
It's it looks like an ice cream.
So it's established in Sun's andit's like a little glass kind of
holder that looks like an icecream dish, like a little gelato
ice cream dish, like a littlesundae.
Yeah, I remember that.
Yeah.
And then the light is just thissphere that sits in it, like a
like a basically a big scoop ofice cream sits inside this glass
(15:46):
bowl.
But they have the a it'sportable.
So I'm really into portablelamps at the moment.
I just feel like I can put themin places where, you know,
especially if you're renting andyou go like, I need a lamp here,
and you can't have one becausethere's no PowerPoint, dining
tables where you can have alamp.
I mean, obviously inhospitality, it's made a huge
difference being able to haveportable lamps on tables on your
(16:07):
kitchen bench where maybe it'sthe island bench and you don't
want a cord there.
Portable lamps are like so goodfor that.
Um, you can take it outside, notnecessarily if it's raining, but
like, you know, you can put itoutside on a table if you're
sitting outside to eat.
And anyway, so this one'sportable.
So what it does is the umthere's no cord coming out of
the glass space.
That's literally like a glassdish.
(16:29):
And then the ice cream, thesphere, you just turn it around
the other way and it has thelittle magnetic charger for it.
It's just an LED.
And then when it's charged, youjust turn it back around again
so you can't see any of the likeoutlets or anything.
It just looks like this roundglobe of beautiful light.
And, you know, importantly, Ithink you can replace the LED
(16:50):
and all of that.
Uh, and the colours are reallycute.
There's a mint green, which Ireally love.
Um, there's a spritz, which islike an apparel orange colour.
There's a blue and a grey, butthey're really cool.
I don't know what the pricepoint is, to be honest.
I haven't checked, but I find alot of those are, you know, I
guess reasonably affordable interms of something special.
SPEAKER_01 (17:10):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (17:11):
That you can kind of buy that sits, you know,
somewhere, somewhere cool.
Anyway, and I'd love to see afew of them together with the
colours because of it.
SPEAKER_01 (17:18):
That is cute.
Yeah.
Yeah, we've got a few of theportable menu, or now they're
called auto carry labs.
And as you say, like when you'rerenting, you know, we've got
this kitchen that was designedin 1961.
And I love I love the retro-nessof it.
And it's still functional, butthere's not great lighting in
the kitchen.
So we just have one hangingabove our cooking area.
So stuff like that that youyeah, when you you can have a
(17:40):
light just right where you needit.
Um, yeah, love that.
Another one that I love is byWastberg, Wastberg, I'm not sure
how you're pronounced.
Do you know what I mean?
There's one, it's called theChipperfield Light.
It was released, I'd have tosay, 10 years ago.
Yeah.
Yep.
And it's a table lamp.
It's got a round base with astem that comes up, and it's a
(18:02):
90-degree, 90-degree arm with around uh light sort of head that
the light can just uh bedirected down.
It's a great desk lamp and it'sa great bedside table lamp.
And I just think it's reallyelegant, comes in a brass
finish, which is really it'sreally special.
So that's just one I'vespecified that over the years.
(18:22):
Sometimes I think, oh, what'snew?
What do I need to specify that'snew?
But I I think can appreciatelike I mean, not 10 years, it's
not like it's a really, reallyold, but you know what I mean.
You totally get what you meanthough.
Yeah, yeah.
You can just go back and think,no, that's that's really
classic.
I love that.
SPEAKER_00 (18:38):
Well, speaking of classic, same thing.
This was actually designed inthe 60s, and it's probably one
of my all-time favorite lamps,and it's the the Snoopy, the
Snoopy lamp.
Oh, you have to have one ofthose.
It's like, why don't I alreadyown it?
Yes, because I think it's about$2,000.
But um, one day I will.
(18:59):
One day.
So it's it's looks like Snoopy.
That's literally why it's calledthat.
It was designed by, I think, isit uh Castiglione, Castiglione,
Giacomo Castiglione, uh, in 67.
And then they updated it withnew technology as they did a lot
of things um in the early 2000s.
But the one I love is not theblack one, which is very classic
Snoopy.
I really love the blue one.
(19:19):
So that's got like a beautifulkind of not quite navy, not
quite cobalt blue enameled glasstop that's got kind of the
Snoopy shape, it's basicallylike a similar shape to Snoopy's
head.
And then the base is the Carraramarble.
So they've got it has to have aweighted base because the head
part of it, the light part, iskind of on a slight angle.
So it has this gorgeous kind ofangular lean to it.
SPEAKER_01 (19:42):
It does it's sort of cantilevers.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (19:44):
Because of that weight in the base, it sort of
has a has a heaviness to itthat's sort of, I think it's the
enameled glass as well, withthat sort of curb shape.
There's like this lovelychunkiness to it, like it's
almost makes it look soft whenit's hard.
I don't know if that's a goodway to put it.
SPEAKER_01 (19:59):
No, I love it.
That's a no-brainer.
You need to have that light, sowe need to organize that
somehow.
I know, I know.
Living edge, come on, yeah, comeon.
Yes, donate.
Um, a a maker that I discoveredthrough Instagram is uh called
Guy Baref.
So he's a French sculptor.
Guy Baref, is that how they sayit in French?
(20:22):
I think so.
You would know more than me.
They are like illuminatedsculptures.
So, yeah, yeah.
If you uh if you're out andabout or whatever, they're
beautiful.
They're stunning.
I can't even describe it, butthey're they're almost skeletal,
some of the forms.
SPEAKER_00 (20:41):
Yeah, Neolithic or something like I'm not
Neolithic, that's not the rightword, but you know, like um kind
of prehistoric kind of vibes.
SPEAKER_01 (20:48):
In in a really refined way, yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (20:51):
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Not sorry, not in a like yabbadabba-doo kind of way.
I'm thinking more like, youknow, um alien Prometheus kind
of way.
SPEAKER_01 (21:04):
Yes, exactly.
SPEAKER_00 (21:07):
And people are like, what are these references?
SPEAKER_01 (21:09):
What is she talking about?
No, you'll have to look it up.
Guy Barref.
So he's he works in France.
He creates very limited editionsculptures, illuminated, uh,
some other illuminated, I thinkit's ceramic.
Oh when we were um in Paris, wesaw one.
There was one in the showroom ofum Christopher Delcourt.
(21:30):
Um just one of the many, manythings going on.
I was like, oh, that's one ofthe guy ref illuminated
sculptures.
So we need to catch up with himnext.
I think we should.
We'll drop in and say bonjour.
Bonjour, bonjour.
Oh, so that is that's an amazingact.
Stunning.
That's a great find.
(21:51):
Very original showing me that.
Yeah, so cool, aren't they?
They're stunning.
Really?
Um, so you know, if you'relooking at you know projects, I
think I discovered him when Iwas running the the new French
look, especially in the south ofFrance region.
There are doses throughout theprojects.
SPEAKER_00 (22:05):
Does Sophie stock his stuff or is that?
Oh, she would definitely know ofhim.
Yeah.
I don't know why.
I thought maybe she had some.
Okay, also my last one isAustralian designers Volka Haag.
How could I not include them?
Volka, I I guess I've known fora really long time and have used
his lights a lot in in shootsand and specified a few.
(22:28):
They're just quite unique.
I think when he first startedout, if you go back and look at
his um back catalogue oflighting, it's stuff that you
hadn't really seen before.
It was really cool, reallyinteresting, quite sculptural, a
lot of it quite custom orcustomizable.
Um, and he just did a greatcollaboration with Flack Studio
with David Flack.
I think they I think that cameabout when they created
(22:49):
something for Troy Savanne's uhapartment, which that light is
actually really cool too.
But the one that I cut, I likeall of them, but the one I kind
of look at and keep going, I'mgonna get this into a project is
Bruce.
It's called Bruce.
And it's like a cast aluminium,or I think it'd be aluminium or
brass, like a grid.
So it's just it's really simple.
(23:09):
It's just a grid style,three-dimensional grid with
diffuse light behind it, and itcomes in a few different shapes,
like well, a few differentsizes, as in how many grids and
whether it's elongated or six bysix, yeah.
But it's even though again, I'mkind of getting into this sort
of slightly more graphicindustrial style, but that still
(23:30):
has this softness.
And because of the way the lightis diffused, it's so warm.
And um, I guess the materials,even though their metals are
quite warm, sort of lookingmetals.
I really love that one.
I love the simplicity of it.
I love that collaboration, it'sreally cool.
Two, two very cool people.
Yeah, and then it's Melbourne,too, you know, kind of back on
Melbourne.
(23:50):
Well, you know, coming back.
Sorry, everyone else.
SPEAKER_01 (23:53):
Coming back to the Ace Hotel, I'm pretty sure that
in the conference room they hadthose lights up there.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (23:59):
So yes, yes.
SPEAKER_01 (24:01):
Maybe that was something that Volka made back
then as well.
Ah, quite possibly.
Yeah.
My last one is a light that Ihave owned for a long time.
It's by Santa and Cole.
You can get those through a jarin Melbourne, but um, it's
called the Sesta Lamp, and it'skind of like a sort of a an egg
shape, glass, a white glass,almost a symmetrical egg shape.
(24:24):
And it's held in a timber sortof little frame.
And it's got a little handle aswell.
It comes in a portable version.
SPEAKER_00 (24:31):
I love this one.
SPEAKER_01 (24:33):
Yeah, and it just has a beautiful glue now, isn't
it?
Yeah, and it's just a lamp thatwe put on every single day.
You move house and it goes here,it goes there.
I love it.
I love there's something reallyI gravitate towards that shape.
SPEAKER_00 (24:45):
Yeah, it's very anything with the handle, I love
like it's I guess it's harkingback to you know, having a
lantern and like holding up andgoing, who goes there?
I don't know.
There's something kind ofweirdly nostalgic about it.
It is, but um, it's very kindof, I feel like that is the
quintessential Scandinavianlamp.
Like, as in, like if you'regoing to like go for that look
(25:08):
and have the beautiful timbercombination, that sort of
finish, I don't know,Scandinavian vibe.
I feel like that's the lamp.
It's such a classic.
I think it'll always be.
There you go.
That's timeless.
I don't know why, but I reckonthat one's timeless.
Yeah.
Maybe it's got something to dowith the hot the who goes there
thing.
I don't know.
SPEAKER_01 (25:25):
Well, strangely enough, I don't think it's
actually a Scandinavian design.
I think it's spider.
That's funny.
Yeah, but I I totally agree withyou.
It fits within that aestheticthat we've got.
SPEAKER_00 (25:34):
I just I just feel like that's where it started to
be seen, was when there was thatrise of Scandinavian um style
and it just fits it soperfectly, that kind of Nordic
combination of materials.
Agree.
Um, yeah, no, I love it too.
Oh, I didn't even know you hadone of those.
I've probably noticed it amillion times, but it's such a
great lamp.
SPEAKER_01 (25:54):
I can't believe you didn't notice my lamp.
SPEAKER_00 (25:56):
We should have a um, we maybe we'll take photos of
all the lamps in our house andpost them because I've got quite
a few.
Yeah, let's count.
And I've got a new I've got anew vintage lamp, which I
probably should have talkedabout, um, which is an 80s
Italian.
I remember the branch now offthe top of my head now that I've
put myself on the spot, um, fromAngelucci that I accidentally
(26:19):
bought.
You know, my my wallet fell openand landed on the F machine and
it beeped.
SPEAKER_01 (26:24):
And I was like, It can happen.
It can happen.
Oh, that's exciting.
SPEAKER_00 (26:31):
I know I love it.
It's and you know, I bought itages ago and I still haven't
unwrapped it.
It's just sitting upstairsbecause I moved house as well,
but it's just sitting upstairsbecause I I'm funny about new
things.
I need to know where they'regonna go, and I don't put place
them until I know exactly wherethey're gonna go, and then I'll
unwrap it and put it there.
So I think I'm gonna put it inmy bedroom.
That one's good.
I love it so much.
SPEAKER_01 (26:50):
You should.
Um, yeah, I bought a lamp aswell.
And I guess you know, youmentioned sort of affordability.
Leonard Joel auctions, you justnever know what you can find.
Oh, that's right.
What did you get?
Well, I got this, it's a redDanish lamp, that's what it's
called.
SPEAKER_00 (27:03):
And I just look at us buying red lamps.
I don't know.
Is yours red too?
SPEAKER_01 (27:07):
Mine's red, yes.
It's the unexpected red theorythat's become quite expected.
Exactly.
But um, yeah, I mean, it was Ithink it was$120 or something.
SPEAKER_00 (27:19):
Oh my god, that's excellent.
SPEAKER_01 (27:21):
And it's not early.
SPEAKER_00 (27:22):
Is it a table lamp?
It's a it's a floor lamp.
SPEAKER_01 (27:24):
It's a floor lamp.
It's sort of um, it's verysimple, it's really cute.
Um, I think the the importantthing I guess I'd like to get
across if you're listening isyou don't have to spend a lot of
money, but just yeah, that's sotrue.
You can go to the auctionhouses, you can go to IKEA, you
can pick up a lab, it's more thethe lighting effect.
Um, you just don't want to havea space just with downside.
SPEAKER_00 (27:46):
That's the most important bit.
SPEAKER_01 (27:48):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (27:48):
I mean, and and as we said, we have obviously
mentioned, you know, uh somevariable price points, but a lot
of them are probably a bit moredesigner and at a higher price
point, you know, and andbeautiful aspirational pieces.
But absolutely, I can't, I if Iever go to IKEA even just to
pick one thing up, I always walkthrough the lighting area just
in case there's just like a lampthat I just want to grab or a
(28:10):
lampshade.
Even that they do, you know,just the basic big paper round
lampshade, and that goes a longway in a bedroom.
Like it's I don't know, what arethey like$15 or something?
Maybe not even that.
Crazy.
And put that instead of ifyou've got like one of those
batten um basic globes in abedroom because you're in a
house where lighting hasn't beenput in or you can't afford to
(28:32):
put any lighting in yet, you getone of those and you put that
over and it changes the wholeroom.
It's so impactful, yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (28:39):
And they often have collaborations with designers as
well.
SPEAKER_00 (28:43):
They just did the what's his name?
West West.
Oh my god, I'm gonna forget hisname.
Yeah.
Um, I'm gonna look it up whilewe're talking, but I tried to
see whether the um the lamp wasover here because that's the
only problem with the umcollaborations with IKEA, is
sometimes you see them comethrough and they have really
limited stock come through in umAustralia.
(29:04):
Uh Gustav Westman, God, what wasI trying to say?
Do you know him?
He does quite really cool,quirky, colourful stuff.
Um, big on Instagram, big onsocials.
And so he's done some umtableware, but he did have a
really cool lamp.
But I think it was only if youdidn't line up on the day when
it was released.
I know someone who got one.
I jumped online and not evenonline.
(29:25):
Don't even yeah, can't even seeit saying it's not in stock.
It just isn't there.
Yeah.
So check back every now and thenbecause I feel like when those
things get released, then theykind of sometimes just come back
again.
And I think you can put a watchon it.
Yeah, you can have like a wish.
So I've done that with a chairbefore and ended up getting it,
but it took me a couple ofmonths.
SPEAKER_01 (29:44):
Yeah.
Well, I mean, I have to say,yeah, they did a collaboration
with hay.
I think I've talked about a lampI bought IKEA with hay.
It's such a great light source,such a great lamp.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (29:54):
What does that one look like?
I don't remember the hay lamp.
It's kind of I've got the umCelestia, what is it the
Celestia?
Celestina.
God, I'm really good with thename.
SPEAKER_01 (30:02):
Is that the Marcellus?
SPEAKER_00 (30:05):
Yes, thank you.
Yeah, Sabina Marcellus.
The donut.
Yeah, the donut.
SPEAKER_01 (30:08):
The orange donut.
Yeah, that's so gorgeous.
SPEAKER_00 (30:11):
I'm just turning one name into two names into one
today.
Celestina.
That's just a new one.
SPEAKER_01 (30:17):
Write that down.
That's a beautiful name.
SPEAKER_00 (30:20):
Yeah, I love that.
Um I call it the donut lamp justbecause it's, you know,
basically in the shape of adonut.
It's really cool.
It's like an orange glow.
So I love that one.
And you can hang that on thewall.
SPEAKER_01 (30:30):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (30:31):
So it's like a sconce that you can just plug in
so it doesn't have to behardwired.
So yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (30:37):
So many.
It's a lighting obsessions.
Yes.
So, you know, maybe have a lookup some of the ones we've
mentioned, but don't but get putoff by the price.
Shop around, go on tomarketplace, go on to the
auctions.
SPEAKER_00 (30:49):
Marketplace is another great spot to try and
find some interesting lighting,too.
SPEAKER_01 (30:53):
I've I've never bought lighting.
I don't really buy a lot fromMarketplace, but my mum's
obsessed.
SPEAKER_00 (31:00):
I love your mum.
SPEAKER_01 (31:01):
Oh, she's so obsessed.
She has that IKEA lamp as wellthat you mentioned that the
orange donut.
Yeah, it's so cool.
She's I think she's got about 50lamps in her lounge room.
She's just out of control.
SPEAKER_00 (31:12):
As well as all that.
Doesn't she also love candles?
SPEAKER_01 (31:15):
So she candles and lamps, or is it more loves
everything?
Oh, what do you call them?
SPEAKER_00 (31:23):
The chotchotchkis, the chotchkis.
SPEAKER_01 (31:25):
Oh, all of it.
Is that the word?
Plants are everywhere.
She's got a bark of a bar.
She's got yeah, anyway.
SPEAKER_00 (31:31):
I got a couple of bar carts.
They're easy to buy.
SPEAKER_01 (31:34):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (31:35):
They come in handy for things.
SPEAKER_01 (31:37):
Oh, definitely.
Especially my mum, since that'swhat she kind of does now.
She's retired.
Yeah.
Sits at home next to her barcart and she's with her lamps
on.
SPEAKER_00 (31:47):
Yeah.
And a bit of wine.
She's making cocktails.
I'm giving away all this.
SPEAKER_01 (31:52):
Oh, she's giving her best life.
I love it.
I love it too.
Okay.
So there was no hope for me andmy lamp obsession.
It was part of my DNA.
SPEAKER_00 (32:02):
So did you see I sent you um when we talked about
uh you were talking about thatchair that it was, I think it
was another top five, and you'retalking about um the comma
chair.
Yeah.
And someone sent us a message onInstagram saying Lauren sounds
like she's that like analcohol's anonym anonymous, but
it's chairs anonymous, and itsounds like it now again about
(32:22):
lamps.
Did someone say that?
That's hysterical.
SPEAKER_01 (32:25):
Oh my god.
SPEAKER_00 (32:26):
And she does, and that's what we love.
Like we've got obsessions andwe're happy.
SPEAKER_01 (32:31):
This is a safe space.
If you're also a chairholic, youare welcome.
Join us.
SPEAKER_00 (32:40):
Oh, thank you for sharing that today, too, Lauren.
SPEAKER_01 (32:43):
Thanks, Brie.
SPEAKER_00 (32:44):
You've opened my eyes to some new ones, which
I'll now forget the names of.
SPEAKER_01 (32:48):
Same.
I loved that first, the superwire.
I love that first one that youshared.
That was so gorgeous.
SPEAKER_00 (32:54):
Yeah, it's very good.
SPEAKER_01 (32:55):
All right, talk soon.
See you guys.
Bye.
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So, Bri, what's been going onthis week?
SPEAKER_00 (00:27):
Oh, everything.
I feel like we're hitting thattime of year, aren't we, where
everything wraps up just alittle bit.
SPEAKER_01 (00:35):
As we head towards Christmas.
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SPEAKER_01 (00:51):
So much fun.
I know it's like I was gonnasay, I really got a Christmas
party invitation, but that's notreally rude, is it?
But no.
SPEAKER_00 (00:59):
This is the I think everyone's just scaring us with
like talk of Christmas, butsomeone said to me the other
day, so it'd be less now.
It was 90 days until Christmas.
And so I think it was maybe lastweek.
So there you go.
SPEAKER_01 (01:13):
There you go.
I know I feel like it's uh youneed to really decide what
you're gonna do for the next fewmonths and really give it like
that last push, you know.
SPEAKER_00 (01:21):
That's where I'm at.
Calendar sorting, all of thatstuff, make sure you achieve
what you wanted to achieve.
SPEAKER_01 (01:27):
Yeah, you only got 90 days to do it.
I know, right?
Um, I was thinking well, I Iwent down to Sorrento yesterday
and had a really funconsultation with some um
clients.
It's just an interior designconsultation, like we just give
advice on the spot and give themthe notes back.
And I thought, you know, ifyou're listening and you're
thinking, oh gosh, I think Ineed to do that.
(01:47):
I want to round that out beforethe end of the year.
You know, you can contact Bree,you can contact myself.
SPEAKER_00 (01:53):
And it's the time to do it, isn't it?
SPEAKER_01 (01:55):
Yeah, now's the time.
Like, you know, you can get theget the advice that you need and
maybe even start implementingsome of it over the Christmas
break if you've got somedowntime.
SPEAKER_00 (02:04):
Yeah, I've got a couple that I also just did last
week that have jumped straighton and are basically fast
tracking things so they canorder it and have it before
Christmas.
But you know, we we canobviously look at in-stock items
and things like that.
So things can still be done.
SPEAKER_01 (02:20):
Yeah, totally, totally.
Um, I'm excited tomorrow becauseI'm holding one of my workshops
for the design process.
Oh, amazing.
Yeah, so I was in Sydney theother day and hanging out at the
Ace Hotel.
I was just hoping for some ofthe cool vibes to rub off on me,
but unfortunately it didn't.
You're cooler than the Ace.
(02:41):
It's so gorgeous there, isn'tit?
But um, we're we're gonna be atuh the forum in Cremon, so it's
like a beautiful co-workingspace tomorrow.
That's exciting.
And then if you are you knowinterstate or you're thinking,
oh god, I'd love to do that, butI just can't carve out the time,
I get it.
So we're doing this online aswell.
(03:01):
So you can jump online with us.
It's like a live learningsession on Zoom.
We go through the content, askme questions, like put me on the
spot, like ask all of thethings, like if you've got
something that's in the back ofyour mind, or but how does she
do that?
Like, I want to know, you canask.
So it's really good, and I haveto say, I think we're quite used
to talking online.
I mean, you and I we talk onlineall every week, obviously.
(03:25):
Um, but it's uh you can createthat really nice sense of
community online online too.
SPEAKER_00 (03:31):
Absolutely, I think so.
Yeah, it's great you get to doboth.
You've got that um access forpeople who can't be there in
person, and the people that wantto be there in person and soak
up all the lorineness can bethere.
SPEAKER_01 (03:43):
Oh god.
Well, I think the thing with theonline as well is that it's
recorded, so you can think, oh,you know what?
I can't catch, I can't catch itthis week.
But when I'm in the car, I'mgonna just let that play and
listen along whilst I'm doingsomething else.
Perfect.
Just like us.
I'm sure you're in the car rightnow listening to us somewhere.
Exactly.
(04:04):
So today we want to talk aboutlighting, and I feel like
because we are so we are suchbig believers in the power of
colour and how that can changethe way you feel in a space.
I think we prioritize colour, wethink about colour a lot, but
I'd have to say a very closesecond would be lighting.
SPEAKER_00 (04:23):
Totally, and I feel like we do, we do seem to
mention a lot because we justknow what a massive difference
it makes in a space.
And that's just the lightingsource, right?
What we're gonna talk abouttoday is also what looks
amazing, not just functionsreally well.
You know, it's just such a, Idon't know, it's the I like to
(04:43):
think it's like the jewelry inthe interior, like they're often
the little pretty things or Idon't know, the small little
statement things that kind ofmake the make or break the space
in a way.
SPEAKER_01 (04:54):
True.
I actually met with a potentialclient this morning and she said
that her husband really loveslike soft moody lighting.
I was like, what a cool thingabout you to say I was like, all
right, let's cut, let's havesome fun with the lighting.
And especially when you've got,you know, a space that feels
quite open and like a bigvolume.
I think lighting is key inmaking it feel like in the
(05:16):
evenings that you are a sense ofatmosphere, a sense of
enclosure.
Yeah, and just layering on allthe different types of lighting.
So we're gonna share our topfive lights.
Do you want to start, Brees?
I'm give it a go.
SPEAKER_00 (05:31):
Um, okay, so uh in no particular order for me, and
I could probably uh I do have aslight lamp obsession, so I
haven't, I've tried not to gotoo crazy and just it all be
lamps.
So I'm in the club.
Start with, I don't write.
Start with a um with a pendant,and that's the super wire
suspension pendant designed byformer Phantasma for floss.
(05:54):
Ooh, let me see.
So it's very elegant, but Ithink it's also quite industrial
looking.
So it's uh elongated, there's afew different types, but the one
I'm talking about is thependant, sort of an elongated
shape, and then at each end is ahexagon shape.
So the actual facets are in ahexagon.
And I think what I love about itis even though it sort of has
(06:17):
this industrial kind of vibe,it's not heavy, it's really
light.
It's like a I think it's a castaluminium or a polished
aluminium detail.
And the light is LED, but it'slike a new technology.
So it's like a like an LED, likea band.
So it's a long continuous light.
(06:37):
So inside each pendant sectionis like these beautiful long LED
light sources that I don't know,it kind of reminds me of, you
know, the fancy lights, the withthe, you know, that you put in
the exposed, uh, the exposedthose globes you put in the
exposed kind of pendants thathave the fancy, uh it's like an
old-fashioned filament, the bitthat lights up.
(07:00):
Filament, that's the word.
Oh, so it's like a really longfilament.
So it almost kind of has like aneon vibe to it, but it's not
neon, it's got this beautifulsoft glow to it, and it's it's L
E T.
Okay, so there's strips.
It's called the Super Wiresuspension pendant.
Oh, right.
I think Lemming Edge probablystock it over here.
Um the floss slider, or there'llbe other stockers as well.
(07:23):
And the other cool thing it doesfrom a functionality, so it's
beautiful, but from a umfunctionality point of view, so
there's three sort of sections,these elongated hexagon sections
with the facets that you can seethe lights in.
In the middle of those is like ahidden down light.
So if it's over a kitchen or adining table and you need light
(07:43):
on the surface below, not justambient, it's got a little down
light there.
So it's quite cool.
SPEAKER_01 (07:49):
I think that might be my new favorite light too.
SPEAKER_00 (07:52):
I think you would love it.
I think we would really love it.
And it I think there's a floorlamp and some other versions of
it in the same thing.
But yeah, it's just it's it'sgot such a warmth to it, a
lightness to it, and yet it hasthat great kind of industrial
architectural edge to it.
Like that's what I kind of likeabout it.
SPEAKER_01 (08:09):
Yeah, it does.
I think that filament goingrunning through that shape.
It does, it doesn't feel techy,it feels sort of there's a
nostalgic vibe, something.
Yes, yes, yeah.
I love it.
SPEAKER_00 (08:21):
Um, what's yours?
What's your first one?
SPEAKER_01 (08:24):
There's a light that I've seen.
I mean, I love the Akari lights.
I love those.
The rice paper lights that yousee.
You see like a huge big uh ricepaper sort of sphere.
Rice paper.
No, that's the one that you eat,isn't it?
SPEAKER_00 (08:39):
I don't know if that's I think it might be is it
rice paper?
SPEAKER_01 (08:42):
Is it rice paper can be?
SPEAKER_00 (08:43):
Well, I know that um the traditional, you're washi,
the traditional lamps are um,but I think let's say washi.
SPEAKER_01 (08:50):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (08:50):
Anyway, we know what you mean.
SPEAKER_01 (08:51):
Yeah, they're you know, they're beautiful.
Uh I think they're classic, butI do want to sometimes think of
something different.
There was a light that I saw, Ithink it was in a name drop now,
when I went to StockholmFurniture Fair, it was five
years ago, by this brand calledTime and Style.
(09:12):
Oh yeah, yeah.
They're exceptional.
So the they're the washi paperas well, but they have like a
bent wood frame.
So they're a little bit morestructured than the Akari
lights.
And you don't, I mean, the Akarilights, I get the appeal because
it's that beautiful glow and allof the things, but you do see
them a lot in interiors.
(09:33):
They have, yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (09:34):
And unfortunately, they are one of those lamps that
have been copied a bit, and asmuch as I love them, uh I feel
like that always diminishes howmuch we want to use it.
But yes, yes, yeah.
I know the ones you're talkingabout, they're just I guess a
little bit more unique now,right?
SPEAKER_01 (09:49):
Yeah, the the ones by time and style, they are a
bit more unique.
They still give you thatbeautiful warm glow.
Um I mean the Akari ones arevery refined, but I think these
ones are a little next levelrefined.
Um and they're stunning and theyhave a pretty stunning price
point to match as well.
SPEAKER_00 (10:08):
Honestly, um, I when I put this list together, I
went, ooh, I probably shouldhave added some kind of more
affordable ones, but this is allvery aspirational, you know.
We'll we'll tell you the thingsthat are beautiful and why.
That's right.
Maybe we'll do another uhpodcast of like, you know,
here's this, but what aboutthis?
Yeah.
So we've got options.
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Um I just looked up washi paper,by the way.
It is rice paper.
Washi paper is rice paper.
Oh, interesting.
It's made from the inner bark ofthe mulberry tree.
It's a type of rice paper.
Well, it says a type of ricepaper.
Oh, okay, cool.
Derived from the inner bark of amulberry tree.
So maybe it's maybe rice papermeans not necessarily made from
rice.
I don't know.
(10:51):
Yeah, we have to dive deeperinto that.
Yeah, that's a whole thing.
SPEAKER_01 (10:56):
But I was curious, I was like, oh, is it rice paper?
Yeah, I don't know.
When I said rice paper, I waslike, no, isn't that what you
wrap like wontons in and stuff?
SPEAKER_00 (11:05):
No, yeah, uh, or nougar.
Oh, you know how you've got thepaper on the nougar and you can
eat it.
I love it.
Well, my next one is some wallsconces from Articolo, which is
probably we both love Articoloas a brand.
Stunning lighting.
(11:25):
I feel like I've used them a bitin projects where it's just the
thing that elabates the room,like absolutely invested in
these beautiful lights, and youcan tell that they're quality
and you know that they're a bitspecial.
So they did release a few newlights earlier this year, I
think.
We saw them over in Milan, andone of them is the 1240, which
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is a long wall sconce.
But what's really cool is youcan have it forward-facing light
or back facing light.
So forward facing, you see, youknow, the ambient light, and
back facing you have like asurface, say it's um traboteen
or stone, and the light kind ofemanates from behind onto the
wall.
So I think it's just like areally beautiful elegance.
(12:07):
I love the the scale of it aswell.
Like it's not too big, but it'slike big enough to kind of
perfect kind of bathroom lightnext to a mirror, especially the
ambient one or hallway light,you know, next to beds over
bedsides.
But yeah, I mean, I do reallylove their stuff and I love the
finishes they offer.
They're all sort of quitebeautiful finishes, you know,
(12:29):
they have a lot of differentbrass and stone combinations,
and their glass, like thatbeautiful blown glass that they
use, is quite gorgeous.
Exceptional.
SPEAKER_01 (12:37):
I think when I first saw that light, I was so excited
because it just fills such a gapin projects.
Like as you say, the bathroomvanity.
When you want to put your makeupon, you can pivot that light so
it's shining onto your face, butin the evenings you can pivot it
and it shines onto the wall, asyou say.
So you're getting more of thatambient light.
(12:58):
So it's kind of two lights inone.
SPEAKER_00 (13:00):
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (13:01):
I was so excited.
I love it.
And Nikki is such a cooldesigner.
SPEAKER_00 (13:05):
She is, yeah.
Great company.
SPEAKER_01 (13:07):
Yeah.
I have another that I want toshare, which is uh also a female
designer.
Um, her name is Coco Reynolds,and her brand is called Mars.
She's so cool.
Yeah.
So she has been designinglighting, I feel like for a long
time.
It said on her website that herbusiness was founded in 2019,
but I remember her going wayback.
(13:28):
Maybe it was under her own namethen.
SPEAKER_00 (13:30):
That's really interesting because absolutely.
Um, that might be, I thinkperhaps it was a different name,
but you remember the bead light,the pendant?
Yeah.
So it was all these wooden beadsand then an exposed bulb.
That was ages ago.
Oh no, no, would have been.
I was definitely before 2019.
(13:50):
Yeah, yeah.
But I know that was horriblycopaged, like everywhere copage,
and that was reallydisappointing because it was
such a great lie, and then Ifeel like it was everywhere.
So yeah.
Yeah.
Anyway, yes, I think she hasbeen around longer.
SPEAKER_01 (14:05):
Yeah, but there's and she maybe it's now she's
based in Byron Bay, and so theywork with a lot of local
artisans in that area.
But there's I I I tried tochoose one, but I honestly
couldn't choose.
And I think the the thing isthey're all really um, depending
on the application, they're madeto order, they're handcrafted.
They use a lot of differentnatural materials, yeah, like
(14:27):
ceramics, timber, metals.
Um, and I think she's quiteaffordable too, don't you?
It's doable.
Yeah, yeah.
They're doable.
There's some in glass that'sabsolutely stunning.
Totally.
I um, you know, Articular, Ilove them, but they they are
sometimes a bit of a push to getthem into projects.
SPEAKER_00 (14:45):
Yeah, that it's a high-end product for that.
SPEAKER_01 (14:47):
It's a high-end product, and you know, Mars
Designs has high-end product aswell, but there are also other
options which are doable, moreaffordable, gorgeous feature
lighting, wall, especially thewall lights.
I think she does amazing walllights.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (15:01):
Me too.
I love them.
Gorgeous.
And she's just such a beautifulperson.
I love being able to support afemale designer doing really
well, and particularly in thatkind of field.
Definitely.
Not just interiors, but actuallyproduct design.
Yeah, yeah.
Very cool.
All right, I'll uh go on to acute one, which is also launched
this year at Milan, which is theGelato Portable Lab.
(15:24):
Do you remember this?
It's it looks like an ice cream.
So it's established in Sun's andit's like a little glass kind of
holder that looks like an icecream dish, like a little gelato
ice cream dish, like a littlesundae.
Yeah, I remember that.
Yeah.
And then the light is just thissphere that sits in it, like a
like a basically a big scoop ofice cream sits inside this glass
(15:46):
bowl.
But they have the a it'sportable.
So I'm really into portablelamps at the moment.
I just feel like I can put themin places where, you know,
especially if you're renting andyou go like, I need a lamp here,
and you can't have one becausethere's no PowerPoint, dining
tables where you can have alamp.
I mean, obviously inhospitality, it's made a huge
difference being able to haveportable lamps on tables on your
(16:07):
kitchen bench where maybe it'sthe island bench and you don't
want a cord there.
Portable lamps are like so goodfor that.
Um, you can take it outside, notnecessarily if it's raining, but
like, you know, you can put itoutside on a table if you're
sitting outside to eat.
And anyway, so this one'sportable.
So what it does is the umthere's no cord coming out of
the glass space.
That's literally like a glassdish.
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And then the ice cream, thesphere, you just turn it around
the other way and it has thelittle magnetic charger for it.
It's just an LED.
And then when it's charged, youjust turn it back around again
so you can't see any of the likeoutlets or anything.
It just looks like this roundglobe of beautiful light.
And, you know, importantly, Ithink you can replace the LED
(16:50):
and all of that.
Uh, and the colours are reallycute.
There's a mint green, which Ireally love.
Um, there's a spritz, which islike an apparel orange colour.
There's a blue and a grey, butthey're really cool.
I don't know what the pricepoint is, to be honest.
I haven't checked, but I find alot of those are, you know, I
guess reasonably affordable interms of something special.
SPEAKER_01 (17:10):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (17:11):
That you can kind of buy that sits, you know,
somewhere, somewhere cool.
Anyway, and I'd love to see afew of them together with the
colours because of it.
SPEAKER_01 (17:18):
That is cute.
Yeah.
Yeah, we've got a few of theportable menu, or now they're
called auto carry labs.
And as you say, like when you'rerenting, you know, we've got
this kitchen that was designedin 1961.
And I love I love the retro-nessof it.
And it's still functional, butthere's not great lighting in
the kitchen.
So we just have one hangingabove our cooking area.
So stuff like that that youyeah, when you you can have a
(17:40):
light just right where you needit.
Um, yeah, love that.
Another one that I love is byWastberg, Wastberg, I'm not sure
how you're pronounced.
Do you know what I mean?
There's one, it's called theChipperfield Light.
It was released, I'd have tosay, 10 years ago.
Yeah.
Yep.
And it's a table lamp.
It's got a round base with astem that comes up, and it's a
(18:02):
90-degree, 90-degree arm with around uh light sort of head that
the light can just uh bedirected down.
It's a great desk lamp and it'sa great bedside table lamp.
And I just think it's reallyelegant, comes in a brass
finish, which is really it'sreally special.
So that's just one I'vespecified that over the years.
(18:22):
Sometimes I think, oh, what'snew?
What do I need to specify that'snew?
But I I think can appreciatelike I mean, not 10 years, it's
not like it's a really, reallyold, but you know what I mean.
You totally get what you meanthough.
Yeah, yeah.
You can just go back and think,no, that's that's really
classic.
I love that.
SPEAKER_00 (18:38):
Well, speaking of classic, same thing.
This was actually designed inthe 60s, and it's probably one
of my all-time favorite lamps,and it's the the Snoopy, the
Snoopy lamp.
Oh, you have to have one ofthose.
It's like, why don't I alreadyown it?
Yes, because I think it's about$2,000.
But um, one day I will.
(18:59):
One day.
So it's it's looks like Snoopy.
That's literally why it's calledthat.
It was designed by, I think, isit uh Castiglione, Castiglione,
Giacomo Castiglione, uh, in 67.
And then they updated it withnew technology as they did a lot
of things um in the early 2000s.
But the one I love is not theblack one, which is very classic
Snoopy.
I really love the blue one.
(19:19):
So that's got like a beautifulkind of not quite navy, not
quite cobalt blue enameled glasstop that's got kind of the
Snoopy shape, it's basicallylike a similar shape to Snoopy's
head.
And then the base is the Carraramarble.
So they've got it has to have aweighted base because the head
part of it, the light part, iskind of on a slight angle.
So it has this gorgeous kind ofangular lean to it.
SPEAKER_01 (19:42):
It does it's sort of cantilevers.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (19:44):
Because of that weight in the base, it sort of
has a has a heaviness to itthat's sort of, I think it's the
enameled glass as well, withthat sort of curb shape.
There's like this lovelychunkiness to it, like it's
almost makes it look soft whenit's hard.
I don't know if that's a goodway to put it.
SPEAKER_01 (19:59):
No, I love it.
That's a no-brainer.
You need to have that light, sowe need to organize that
somehow.
I know, I know.
Living edge, come on, yeah, comeon.
Yes, donate.
Um, a a maker that I discoveredthrough Instagram is uh called
Guy Baref.
So he's a French sculptor.
Guy Baref, is that how they sayit in French?
(20:22):
I think so.
You would know more than me.
They are like illuminatedsculptures.
So, yeah, yeah.
If you uh if you're out andabout or whatever, they're
beautiful.
They're stunning.
I can't even describe it, butthey're they're almost skeletal,
some of the forms.
SPEAKER_00 (20:41):
Yeah, Neolithic or something like I'm not
Neolithic, that's not the rightword, but you know, like um kind
of prehistoric kind of vibes.
SPEAKER_01 (20:48):
In in a really refined way, yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (20:51):
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Not sorry, not in a like yabbadabba-doo kind of way.
I'm thinking more like, youknow, um alien Prometheus kind
of way.
SPEAKER_01 (21:04):
Yes, exactly.
SPEAKER_00 (21:07):
And people are like, what are these references?
SPEAKER_01 (21:09):
What is she talking about?
No, you'll have to look it up.
Guy Barref.
So he's he works in France.
He creates very limited editionsculptures, illuminated, uh,
some other illuminated, I thinkit's ceramic.
Oh when we were um in Paris, wesaw one.
There was one in the showroom ofum Christopher Delcourt.
(21:30):
Um just one of the many, manythings going on.
I was like, oh, that's one ofthe guy ref illuminated
sculptures.
So we need to catch up with himnext.
I think we should.
We'll drop in and say bonjour.
Bonjour, bonjour.
Oh, so that is that's an amazingact.
Stunning.
That's a great find.
(21:51):
Very original showing me that.
Yeah, so cool, aren't they?
They're stunning.
Really?
Um, so you know, if you'relooking at you know projects, I
think I discovered him when Iwas running the the new French
look, especially in the south ofFrance region.
There are doses throughout theprojects.
SPEAKER_00 (22:05):
Does Sophie stock his stuff or is that?
Oh, she would definitely know ofhim.
Yeah.
I don't know why.
I thought maybe she had some.
Okay, also my last one isAustralian designers Volka Haag.
How could I not include them?
Volka, I I guess I've known fora really long time and have used
his lights a lot in in shootsand and specified a few.
(22:28):
They're just quite unique.
I think when he first startedout, if you go back and look at
his um back catalogue oflighting, it's stuff that you
hadn't really seen before.
It was really cool, reallyinteresting, quite sculptural, a
lot of it quite custom orcustomizable.
Um, and he just did a greatcollaboration with Flack Studio
with David Flack.
I think they I think that cameabout when they created
(22:49):
something for Troy Savanne's uhapartment, which that light is
actually really cool too.
But the one that I cut, I likeall of them, but the one I kind
of look at and keep going, I'mgonna get this into a project is
Bruce.
It's called Bruce.
And it's like a cast aluminium,or I think it'd be aluminium or
brass, like a grid.
So it's just it's really simple.
(23:09):
It's just a grid style,three-dimensional grid with
diffuse light behind it, and itcomes in a few different shapes,
like well, a few differentsizes, as in how many grids and
whether it's elongated or six bysix, yeah.
But it's even though again, I'mkind of getting into this sort
of slightly more graphicindustrial style, but that still
(23:30):
has this softness.
And because of the way the lightis diffused, it's so warm.
And um, I guess the materials,even though their metals are
quite warm, sort of lookingmetals.
I really love that one.
I love the simplicity of it.
I love that collaboration, it'sreally cool.
Two, two very cool people.
Yeah, and then it's Melbourne,too, you know, kind of back on
Melbourne.
(23:50):
Well, you know, coming back.
Sorry, everyone else.
SPEAKER_01 (23:53):
Coming back to the Ace Hotel, I'm pretty sure that
in the conference room they hadthose lights up there.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (23:59):
So yes, yes.
SPEAKER_01 (24:01):
Maybe that was something that Volka made back
then as well.
Ah, quite possibly.
Yeah.
My last one is a light that Ihave owned for a long time.
It's by Santa and Cole.
You can get those through a jarin Melbourne, but um, it's
called the Sesta Lamp, and it'skind of like a sort of a an egg
shape, glass, a white glass,almost a symmetrical egg shape.
(24:24):
And it's held in a timber sortof little frame.
And it's got a little handle aswell.
It comes in a portable version.
SPEAKER_00 (24:31):
I love this one.
SPEAKER_01 (24:33):
Yeah, and it just has a beautiful glue now, isn't
it?
Yeah, and it's just a lamp thatwe put on every single day.
You move house and it goes here,it goes there.
I love it.
I love there's something reallyI gravitate towards that shape.
SPEAKER_00 (24:45):
Yeah, it's very anything with the handle, I love
like it's I guess it's harkingback to you know, having a
lantern and like holding up andgoing, who goes there?
I don't know.
There's something kind ofweirdly nostalgic about it.
It is, but um, it's very kindof, I feel like that is the
quintessential Scandinavianlamp.
Like, as in, like if you'regoing to like go for that look
(25:08):
and have the beautiful timbercombination, that sort of
finish, I don't know,Scandinavian vibe.
I feel like that's the lamp.
It's such a classic.
I think it'll always be.
There you go.
That's timeless.
I don't know why, but I reckonthat one's timeless.
Yeah.
Maybe it's got something to dowith the hot the who goes there
thing.
I don't know.
SPEAKER_01 (25:25):
Well, strangely enough, I don't think it's
actually a Scandinavian design.
I think it's spider.
That's funny.
Yeah, but I I totally agree withyou.
It fits within that aestheticthat we've got.
SPEAKER_00 (25:34):
I just I just feel like that's where it started to
be seen, was when there was thatrise of Scandinavian um style
and it just fits it soperfectly, that kind of Nordic
combination of materials.
Agree.
Um, yeah, no, I love it too.
Oh, I didn't even know you hadone of those.
I've probably noticed it amillion times, but it's such a
great lamp.
SPEAKER_01 (25:54):
I can't believe you didn't notice my lamp.
SPEAKER_00 (25:56):
We should have a um, we maybe we'll take photos of
all the lamps in our house andpost them because I've got quite
a few.
Yeah, let's count.
And I've got a new I've got anew vintage lamp, which I
probably should have talkedabout, um, which is an 80s
Italian.
I remember the branch now offthe top of my head now that I've
put myself on the spot, um, fromAngelucci that I accidentally
(26:19):
bought.
You know, my my wallet fell openand landed on the F machine and
it beeped.
SPEAKER_01 (26:24):
And I was like, It can happen.
It can happen.
Oh, that's exciting.
SPEAKER_00 (26:31):
I know I love it.
It's and you know, I bought itages ago and I still haven't
unwrapped it.
It's just sitting upstairsbecause I moved house as well,
but it's just sitting upstairsbecause I I'm funny about new
things.
I need to know where they'regonna go, and I don't put place
them until I know exactly wherethey're gonna go, and then I'll
unwrap it and put it there.
So I think I'm gonna put it inmy bedroom.
That one's good.
I love it so much.
SPEAKER_01 (26:50):
You should.
Um, yeah, I bought a lamp aswell.
And I guess you know, youmentioned sort of affordability.
Leonard Joel auctions, you justnever know what you can find.
Oh, that's right.
What did you get?
Well, I got this, it's a redDanish lamp, that's what it's
called.
SPEAKER_00 (27:03):
And I just look at us buying red lamps.
I don't know.
Is yours red too?
SPEAKER_01 (27:07):
Mine's red, yes.
It's the unexpected red theorythat's become quite expected.
Exactly.
But um, yeah, I mean, it was Ithink it was$120 or something.
SPEAKER_00 (27:19):
Oh my god, that's excellent.
SPEAKER_01 (27:21):
And it's not early.
SPEAKER_00 (27:22):
Is it a table lamp?
It's a it's a floor lamp.
SPEAKER_01 (27:24):
It's a floor lamp.
It's sort of um, it's verysimple, it's really cute.
Um, I think the the importantthing I guess I'd like to get
across if you're listening isyou don't have to spend a lot of
money, but just yeah, that's sotrue.
You can go to the auctionhouses, you can go to IKEA, you
can pick up a lab, it's more thethe lighting effect.
Um, you just don't want to havea space just with downside.
SPEAKER_00 (27:46):
That's the most important bit.
SPEAKER_01 (27:48):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (27:48):
I mean, and and as we said, we have obviously
mentioned, you know, uh somevariable price points, but a lot
of them are probably a bit moredesigner and at a higher price
point, you know, and andbeautiful aspirational pieces.
But absolutely, I can't, I if Iever go to IKEA even just to
pick one thing up, I always walkthrough the lighting area just
in case there's just like a lampthat I just want to grab or a
(28:10):
lampshade.
Even that they do, you know,just the basic big paper round
lampshade, and that goes a longway in a bedroom.
Like it's I don't know, what arethey like$15 or something?
Maybe not even that.
Crazy.
And put that instead of ifyou've got like one of those
batten um basic globes in abedroom because you're in a
house where lighting hasn't beenput in or you can't afford to
(28:32):
put any lighting in yet, you getone of those and you put that
over and it changes the wholeroom.
It's so impactful, yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (28:39):
And they often have collaborations with designers as
well.
SPEAKER_00 (28:43):
They just did the what's his name?
West West.
Oh my god, I'm gonna forget hisname.
Yeah.
Um, I'm gonna look it up whilewe're talking, but I tried to
see whether the um the lamp wasover here because that's the
only problem with the umcollaborations with IKEA, is
sometimes you see them comethrough and they have really
limited stock come through in umAustralia.
(29:04):
Uh Gustav Westman, God, what wasI trying to say?
Do you know him?
He does quite really cool,quirky, colourful stuff.
Um, big on Instagram, big onsocials.
And so he's done some umtableware, but he did have a
really cool lamp.
But I think it was only if youdidn't line up on the day when
it was released.
I know someone who got one.
I jumped online and not evenonline.
(29:25):
Don't even yeah, can't even seeit saying it's not in stock.
It just isn't there.
Yeah.
So check back every now and thenbecause I feel like when those
things get released, then theykind of sometimes just come back
again.
And I think you can put a watchon it.
Yeah, you can have like a wish.
So I've done that with a chairbefore and ended up getting it,
but it took me a couple ofmonths.
SPEAKER_01 (29:44):
Yeah.
Well, I mean, I have to say,yeah, they did a collaboration
with hay.
I think I've talked about a lampI bought IKEA with hay.
It's such a great light source,such a great lamp.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (29:54):
What does that one look like?
I don't remember the hay lamp.
It's kind of I've got the umCelestia, what is it the
Celestia?
Celestina.
God, I'm really good with thename.
SPEAKER_01 (30:02):
Is that the Marcellus?
SPEAKER_00 (30:05):
Yes, thank you.
Yeah, Sabina Marcellus.
The donut.
Yeah, the donut.
SPEAKER_01 (30:08):
The orange donut.
Yeah, that's so gorgeous.
SPEAKER_00 (30:11):
I'm just turning one name into two names into one
today.
Celestina.
That's just a new one.
SPEAKER_01 (30:17):
Write that down.
That's a beautiful name.
SPEAKER_00 (30:20):
Yeah, I love that.
Um I call it the donut lamp justbecause it's, you know,
basically in the shape of adonut.
It's really cool.
It's like an orange glow.
So I love that one.
And you can hang that on thewall.
SPEAKER_01 (30:30):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (30:31):
So it's like a sconce that you can just plug in
so it doesn't have to behardwired.
So yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (30:37):
So many.
It's a lighting obsessions.
Yes.
So, you know, maybe have a lookup some of the ones we've
mentioned, but don't but get putoff by the price.
Shop around, go on tomarketplace, go on to the
auctions.
SPEAKER_00 (30:49):
Marketplace is another great spot to try and
find some interesting lighting,too.
SPEAKER_01 (30:53):
I've I've never bought lighting.
I don't really buy a lot fromMarketplace, but my mum's
obsessed.
SPEAKER_00 (31:00):
I love your mum.
SPEAKER_01 (31:01):
Oh, she's so obsessed.
She has that IKEA lamp as wellthat you mentioned that the
orange donut.
Yeah, it's so cool.
She's I think she's got about 50lamps in her lounge room.
She's just out of control.
SPEAKER_00 (31:12):
As well as all that.
Doesn't she also love candles?
SPEAKER_01 (31:15):
So she candles and lamps, or is it more loves
everything?
Oh, what do you call them?
SPEAKER_00 (31:23):
The chotchotchkis, the chotchkis.
SPEAKER_01 (31:25):
Oh, all of it.
Is that the word?
Plants are everywhere.
She's got a bark of a bar.
She's got yeah, anyway.
SPEAKER_00 (31:31):
I got a couple of bar carts.
They're easy to buy.
SPEAKER_01 (31:34):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (31:35):
They come in handy for things.
SPEAKER_01 (31:37):
Oh, definitely.
Especially my mum, since that'swhat she kind of does now.
She's retired.
Yeah.
Sits at home next to her barcart and she's with her lamps
on.
SPEAKER_00 (31:47):
Yeah.
And a bit of wine.
She's making cocktails.
I'm giving away all this.
SPEAKER_01 (31:52):
Oh, she's giving her best life.
I love it.
I love it too.
Okay.
So there was no hope for me andmy lamp obsession.
It was part of my DNA.
SPEAKER_00 (32:02):
So did you see I sent you um when we talked about
uh you were talking about thatchair that it was, I think it
was another top five, and you'retalking about um the comma
chair.
Yeah.
And someone sent us a message onInstagram saying Lauren sounds
like she's that like analcohol's anonym anonymous, but
it's chairs anonymous, and itsounds like it now again about
(32:22):
lamps.
Did someone say that?
That's hysterical.
SPEAKER_01 (32:25):
Oh my god.
SPEAKER_00 (32:26):
And she does, and that's what we love.
Like we've got obsessions andwe're happy.
SPEAKER_01 (32:31):
This is a safe space.
If you're also a chairholic, youare welcome.
Join us.
SPEAKER_00 (32:40):
Oh, thank you for sharing that today, too, Lauren.
SPEAKER_01 (32:43):
Thanks, Brie.
SPEAKER_00 (32:44):
You've opened my eyes to some new ones, which
I'll now forget the names of.
SPEAKER_01 (32:48):
Same.
I loved that first, the superwire.
I love that first one that youshared.
That was so gorgeous.
SPEAKER_00 (32:54):
Yeah, it's very good.
SPEAKER_01 (32:55):
All right, talk soon.
See you guys.
Bye.
We've got the utmost respect forthe Wurundjeri people of the
Kulin Nation.
They're the OG custodians ofthis unceded land and its
waters, where we set up shop,create, and call home and come
to you from this podcast today.
A big shout out to all of theamazing elders who have walked
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before us, those leading the wayin the present, and the emerging
leaders who will carry the torchinto the future.
We're just lucky to be on thisjourney together.
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