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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Design
Anatomy, the Interior Design
Podcast hosted by friends andfellow designers, me, Bree
Banfield.
Speaker (00:08):
And me, Lauren Li, with
some amazing guest appearances
along the way.
We're here to break downeverything from current trends
to timeless style.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
With a shared passion
for joyful, colour-filled and
lived-in spaces, we're excitedto share our insights and
inspiration with you.
And today we thought we wouldshare our top places to source
art from.
Affordable or splurge.
I will try and stick to a topfive.
I've listed some and I'm wayover five, so we'll see how we
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go.
Lauren, let's start with you.
Give us your first one.
Speaker (00:44):
Alright, so my first
one is I think it's a really
good tip.
It's the VCA Art GradExhibition.
So the VCA is the VictorianCollege of the Arts.
Every year they have a graduateexhibition.
It's held in one of theirbuildings, which is right near
the NGV.
And it's always like a reallynice warm night.
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There's like all of these coolyoung art people everywhere.
I haven't been for a few yearsactually, but you can buy never
been.
I should do this.
This is a major top tip.
Like wow.
Of course.
It's happening on the 27th ofNovember this year.
So if you just go VCA Art GradeExhibition 2025, it'll bring up
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a um, you know, a ticket thing,and you can just register.
So I reckon we go, Brie.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Amazing.
Speaker (01:32):
I'm I'm there already.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Like that's I'm a
massive art fan, and you and I
have both talked about how artis like can be the thing that
you splurge on, you know,instead of the sofa, even.
But to find amazing, affordableart that kind of like rocks
your world, that is like theultimate goal, right?
Speaker (01:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
So things like an art
grad exhibition, and I know
that there are some of thecolleges that also do a similar
thing, right?
Like sort of the, I think it'smore like an art auction where
they have things, I guess,donated to raise money for the
school.
And but they're at probably aquite a good price.
I know Sweet has taught usabout that before.
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But and it would be, I wouldknow off the top of my head, but
I don't what it was exactly.
But that's a another one tolook out for.
Speaker (02:20):
Yeah.
But yes, all right, 27th ofNovember, I'm there.
And if you're listening, comeand say hi to us.
We'll be standing near the bar.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Yes, we will.
Absolutely.
I I'm gonna start with my, Iguess, my biggest one and my
go-to, which is Studio Gallery.
I have known Carrie, who ownsStudio Gallery for a very, very
long time, kind of well before Iguess she was a well-known
artist.
So she's a good friend.
And I think they have a reallygreat way of, I guess, curating
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and presenting their art.
So I guess one of the biggestproblems with galleries is that
from a layman point of view, asan average person going, I want
to buy some art and not being inthe art world is that it can be
quite daunting, right?
There's it's a bit sort ofscary.
Like even as designers, there'sgalleries where, like, oh,
we've got a we've got a clientand they have some money.
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Can we spend it with you?
And they can actually still bequite standoffish.
I find Studio Gallery to beincredibly approachable.
You can actually just spendtime on their website and still
understand how much somethingactually costs.
Whereas there's a lot ofgalleries who won't necessarily
put those things on the website.
So it gives you just, I guess,a good understanding of what can
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I afford, what do I like?
You can browse the artists, youcan have a look at, you know,
what's available now in thestock room.
So I feel like they're just akind of good in-between go-to.
I wouldn't say everything'saffordable in terms of depending
on your budget.
I've purchased from there and Idon't have a massive budget,
but there's definitely somereally high-end pieces.
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And then there's some moreaffordable pieces.
They have galleries inMelbourne, Sydney, and Brisbane.
So you can go and look at theartists and have a look at them.
But I just find them quiteapproachable, easy to deal with.
And so it's kind of a goodall-rounder start for me.
That's some studio gallery.
Speaker (04:16):
I think that you've
just nailed it because they do
there is a huge big spacebetween a high-end art gallery
that's like this big white boxthat's really intimidating to
walk into and buying a poster.
From IKEA.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
It's so true.
And I feel like there's, youknow, the there are times where
we do want to invest money inart, and maybe you're not
someone I'll invest, you know,as much as I possibly can in
art.
It's just something that I loveand and would love to spend,
would love more money to be ableto spend on it.
Come on, universe, but they'reexactly manifesting.
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But, you know, there'sobviously also the just the
average person who's buildingthe average house, you know, in
a reasonably affordablemid-range that still wants to
have great art.
Absolutely.
I find them a good go-to forthat.
Speaker (05:04):
Very clever.
My number two is Leonard Joel.
So we've talked about LeonardJoel here before.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Yes.
Speaker (05:11):
So great.
And it is it's like findingtreasure.
I mean, you can flip throughthe catalogue and um you can
have a look through the weeklyauction, you know, you can look
at different categories, andit's usually the last section in
the the catalogue, the onlinecatalogue, where you can find
the artwork.
And again, it's a mix ofprestigious art by artists that
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you might know, you know, theBoyds and Charles Blackman, John
Olson, you know, those reallyestablished artists.
And you can even pick up, youknow, work by them on paper,
which is very affordable.
But then there's just a wholelot of unknown, you know, not as
well known.
But it's just whatever kind ofspeaks to you.
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And I've bought art from therebefore, and it's yeah, it's
cool.
I love it.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
I feel like that's
the thing, in my opinion, from I
guess from my perspective, ifyou're not a collector of art,
so you're not like going, I'minvesting this money like a, you
know, like you're investing inreal estate into these art
pieces, and it's got literallynothing to do with how you feel
about it and more about who theartist is, what the piece is,
when it was created, etc., whatthe projection of um, you know,
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its increase in value is goingto be.
Then art needs to be for you.
So something like um, you know,any kind of vintage pieces you
can get from somewhere like Lynnand Joel, where you can buy art
that's from unknown artists, itdoesn't matter who created it.
Agree.
It just matters how it makesyou feel or how it looks in your
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space.
So that's that kind of becomesthe more important factor, in my
opinion.
So it's a it's such a greatplace to start.
Speaker (06:50):
And you sort of think,
well, if I bid on it and if I
get it, it was meant to be.
And if I don't get it-cause Ilove a bit of meant to be, it's
a little bit lotto-ish, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, it feels reallyexciting.
You can you can join the liveauction online or you can place
an absentee bid.
It's fun.
So yeah, yeah, that's my numbertwo.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
I love that.
Oh, that's a good one.
I do like that.
Uh, okay, now I'm literallyjust like scanning my list of
things and going, what will bemy number two?
I'm gonna go really likeaffordable and say post-clow.
Now, if you if you're notfamiliar with post-clow, but
they are, I wanna say they'reNordic.
Are they like Swedish?
Swedish.
Oh my gosh, Danish, yes,Danish, maybe let's say Danish,
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let's say around that area.
Scandinavian, Scandinavian,they're a Scandinavian company.
I still find them amazing todeal with and really responsive.
I've emailed them lots of timesand they get back to me quite
quickly.
And there are also places herethat stock their stuff that you
can purchase sort of straightaway.
I know design staff usuallyhave some.
I think Tree often have, is itTree or even maybe RJ Living?
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But there's a few places thathave poster club artworks here.
But if you jump onto the posterclub website, you could spend
three hours looking throughtheir amazing array of
affordable options at differentsizes.
So obviously they're prints,you can buy them just as the
print, you know, rolled up andsent to you, or they will frame
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it for you and provide theframe.
A lot of them will fit intoIKEA frames.
So if you look them up and go,okay, great, love this, go and
buy my rebar frame, whatever itis from IKEA, frame it cheaply
or get it delivered and frame itwith your local framer.
But they just have like themost, they have fantastic
collaborations, a really hugearray of different styles.
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I just love the affordabilityof it.
I use them quite often forclients who maybe we need to
fill some walls, maybe it's evena children's room or just a
place where we're like, okay,we've invested in these pieces
and we've spent a lot.
We need a couple more piecesand what do we, where do we go?
I sort of go there and look forreally interesting abstract art
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or something that's maybe notnecessarily something you've
seen a lot of.
Like I feel like it's stilldifferent enough to not look
like everybody else.
Like, you know, let's say we goto IKEA and we pick up a print
there, maybe we've seen it abit.
Yes, I find poster club is likean amazing option for that sort
of low end, but still looksgreat.
Speaker (09:23):
Agree.
And whoever curates their art,the artists, it's elite.
They are just so gorgeous.
We actually used to stock themin our online store.
Oh, yeah, of course.
Yeah, and it was interesting.
Years ago, um, we sold one ofthem and it was just to someone
in Richmond.
I can't remember.
They they said they had apodcast or something.
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We're like, oh yeah, whatever,cool.
Who doesn't?
Who doesn't have a podcast,right?
And it was the shameless girls.
Oh, really?
That's very cool.
I know.
And I was like, hey, is it ourprint that we sold them?
And yeah, anyway.
But um, yeah, I love theirartwork.
There's the poster club andthen there's the paper
collection.
And I sort of go between bothof them.
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Oh, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
My god, I don't know
the paper collection.
I'm immediately going to Googlethat.
Speaker (10:10):
And they do one that is
printed on an acoustic board.
So if you've got a dining areathat's like super noisy and you
just need all the help you canget with acoustics, some of
their artwork's printed on this.
It's like uh, it's like um, oh,what's that?
Recycled Coke bottle kind ofpin board stuff.
Anyway, yeah, um, yeah, reallycool as well.
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Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Love her.
I love that.
We'll definitely be lookingthose up and looking that
particular.
Was it paper?
Speaker (10:36):
The paper collection,
paper collective, something like
that.
All right, yeah, yep, okay.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
I'll I'll Google it.
I'm sure it'll come up.
Speaker (10:43):
Something like that.
And my number three, ceramics.
So I think, you know, when wethink about art, we instantly
think something hanging on thewall.
However, some a beautifulsculptural piece on your dining
table, something cool on yourshelves, coffee table.
I would look at Pepete and theCraft Victoria, and they have a
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bit of crossover with who thatrepresents.
But Pepite by Irina, she hassuch a cool collection and it's
always increasing.
I don't know how she finds somany incredible ceramic artists,
a functional but also artpieces that she keeps.
So that's my number three,ceramics, and also 3D art, you
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know, in terms of a ceramicpiece that you can literally
hang on the wall as well.
It's cool.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Yeah, and I'm always
encouraging clients to think
about that a little bit more sothat they've got a mix of
things, particularly if we dolike a, you know, uh an art hang
situation or where you want tohave a mix of artworks.
It's you kind of want to havesome three-dimensional pieces,
not just a kind of framed printsor a framed canvas.
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You want something that's maybeslightly more organic in the
shape or whatever to break allof that up.
So they're they're great placesto go.
And yeah, always looking atCraft Victoria and Papete,
they're probably one of my biggo-to's for any of those
higher-end decor pieces as well.
I mean, they have you know,like more affordable stuff, but
like it's it's kind of the eliteof the people who are creating
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those beautiful pieces inceramic and and metal and glass.
That's kind of where to findit, right?
Definitely.
They're so special.
Okay, so mine number three, Iam going to go with Fenton and
Fenton.
I think that Lucy has alwayshad a really great eye in terms
of pulling together amazingartists that uh I guess also
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represent the Fenton and Fentonbrand, which is there's usually
colour and they're usually quitebold, um, a little bit quirky
or you know, left or center.
But I often go there forclients when I'm in that sort of
mid-range, you know, it's notsuper high-end.
There's lots of affordablethings.
They definitely do limitededition prints.
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But the, I guess the boldnessand the use of colour and the
artists that that brandattracts, I find works quite
well with my type of client.
And yeah, I think they have areally great mix of of artwork
there that's quite accessible.
So that's probably my nextgo-to.
Speaker (13:10):
Perfect.
Yeah.
It's when you say Fenton andFenton, colour comes to mind.
And, you know, it's it's greatto see, you know, new artists
coming up onto their platform aswell.
It's a great place to discoverartwork.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
So true.
Speaker (13:23):
Yeah.
And I I think um I'm thinkingof more things.
I've got more than four orfive.
I've got, I'm just gonnamention the design files
actually, to find up and comingartists because they have their
own exhibitions that they run intheir studio, which are just
yeah, they do beautiful littleevents there.
Well, not little, they'vebecome quite packed.
But I don't know how she findsso many great up-and-coming
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artists.
Like when I think of some ofthese galleries that I I want to
mention, I think about thefirst time I saw them was on the
design files.
And now they're yeah, yeah,quite prestigious artists.
So sometimes I will just goonto the design files website
and have a look at their art,their different artists.
So that's a great place to lookas well.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Yeah, and I mean,
sometimes it's key, like
finding, I guess if you know thestyle of art you love, and then
you find those artists before,I mean, I guess they're hitting
the design files, they'resomewhat discovered, but they're
maybe just before they'rehitting the cusp of being a
little bit bigger.
Exactly.
And you can go in and you know,snap up an artwork and then
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find that the next time they doan exhibition, it's maybe twice
the price.
So not that it's about for me,it's not about, as I said, like
making money, but like if youcan get something that's kind of
hitting your price point andthat you love and that you then
go, oh, and also they'reamazing.
Look at their projectory, likethat's always really cool,
right?
Speaker (14:43):
It's pretty exciting
thinking, oh, I'm so glad I I
bought a piece from that artistright at the beginning of their
career.
Yeah, yes, it's pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Okay, so I'm gonna
say the other thing that I love
to do, and this is also a bit ofa mix, but there is a lot of
high-end galleries, and that'sthe Melbourne Art Fair.
So that's coming up, I think,in February next year.
There's always the AffordableArt Fair, which has just gone, I
think it was what last month orOctober or September.
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Anyway, it wasn't long ago.
Always also an amazing thing tovisit if you're in the, I
guess, looking for art and youwant something, you don't really
know what you want.
It's such a great place tostart.
You can wander through, seewhat you like, what you don't
like, meet a few artiststhemselves who have stalls there
that basically they're sellingtheir own things.
There's also galleries, so youcan meet them and have chat.
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It's just a really good way tostart, I guess, looking at art
and thinking about it.
The Melbourne Art Fair is kindof the next level up from that,
which is, you know, you have alot of the high-end galleries.
They're introducing artiststhat they really want to push
forward into the world.
It's a lot of designers and artcollectors who are visiting.
So there's a slightly morehigh-end feel to it.
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But I have discovered someabsolutely amazing galleries and
artists at the Melbourne ArtFair in the past, and you know,
and introduced those intoprojects.
So I guess it's it's kind oflike a slightly elevated version
of an art fair.
And there's often furniturepieces there as well.
Like it's it's not just art,like it could be sort of more
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collectible type furniture, somemore bespoke kind of one out
one off pieces.
Yeah, I don't know.
I kind of I like the vibe.
It is high-end, but I'm I don'tfeel out of place there.
Speaker (16:27):
Yeah, I have to agree.
I was gonna say that as well.
Like it's a really great buzzin there.
Everyone's actually quite happyto have a chat, and it doesn't
feel intimidating, like they'rethey're out of that gallery
environment, and um it's reallyit's gets super packed, but it's
such a great in like such agreat vibe, and it's yeah,
mingling with the high-endgalleries and sort of like the
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mid.
But you know, I remember whenwe went, we saw some pretty
affordable pieces there, likequite surprisingly.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It is a bit of a mix.
There is definitely a, I guess,a bridge between affordable and
high-end.
I mean, there was definitelysome pieces where I was like, oh
my god, I want that so badly,and I probably will never be
able to afford it.
But then I actually discoveredsome amazing artists where if I
had the funds at the time, Iprobably would have purchased
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pieces because they werereasonably affordable, and new
artists kind of on the scene, sotheir prices were, you know,
within reach and an exceptionalkind of artwork.
So it's it's like I thinkwhat's great about those fairs
is just what you can discover.
So you go there to look anddiscover and be curious about
even what you like and and whatyou're kind of gravitating
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towards, especially if you'renot quite sure.
Speaker (17:42):
And there's a uh a good
mix of sort of more, I guess,
avant-garde experimental artworkthere when you're like, oh wow,
that's I don't like that.
Why don't I like that?
You know, it's kind of fun aswell.
And yeah, so it's not just allartwork to put on your wall,
it's it's a bit, uh there's someinstallation pieces that too.
A little bit of, yeah.
Yeah, some some challengingartwork that makes you think,
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which is kind of what art'ssupposed to be about.
I know, it's cool.
Well, my last one, number five,is galleries.
And I just wanted to point outa couple that I really enjoy.
And one of them I've never beento because it's in Brisbane,
actually.
It's in New Farm in Brisbane,it's called Edwina Collette
Gallery, and she represents somereally some of my favorite
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artists.
Sally Anderson, Ari Athens,Bridey Gilman, and they're just
joyful, colourful, there'sabstract, there's realistic,
there's uh a nice range.
I I really, I really like uhsigning up to those uh gallery
email lists and and seeing themin my inbox.
At least it's something kind ofexciting in my email.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Very, yeah.
Speaker (18:46):
And I also love Sophie
Gannon Gallery.
She represents Judith Wright,Emily Ferrati.
So yeah, I think you sort ofhave a couple of your go-to's.
And as you say, I think youmentioned with studio gallery,
putting the prices on.
I've noticed that galleries area bit more open to putting the
prices on their websites now.
So it probably saves a lot ofadmin and back and forward for
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them just to get pricing.
Sometimes you just want toknow, are we in the ballpark?
Like what what are we lookingat?
Speaker 1 (19:13):
It's it's a very
traditional thing that galleries
do by not stating the prices.
I guess it's strategic in away, but I guess with the rise
of affordable art and peoplediscovering you as a gallery,
you sort of want to be able tohave, you want to be able to
click on an artist, maybe seewhat's in the stock room and go,
oh yep, okay, that artiststarts at X, and that's way out
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of my price bracket.
And so I'm not gonna send anemail to the gallery and ask
them what the price of this is,and then like cower away slowly
when I realize it's three timesthe budget I have.
Yeah, and waste and waste theirtime.
But I look, I I kind of I loveI love tradition.
I get that there's like waysthings are done, but also let's
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evolve a little bit in the artworld and and be a bit more open
to I don't know, being a littlemore transparent about it.
And there's definitelygalleries that do that, and
there's still galleries thatprobably never, never, never
will, and that and that's fine.
And on the flip side, it's justa different league, I think.
Speaker (20:14):
Yeah, and on the flip
side, you could be like, Oh god,
I don't think we could affordthat.
So you scroll right past itwhen you actually think, you
know what?
One and a half thousanddollars, oh my god, that is so
doable, you know.
There's so how would you know?
Yeah, there's Fred Fowler, theum, he's got pieces on the
Sophie Gannon gallery.
They're like twelve hundreddollars.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
I love Sophie Gannon,
yeah.
Speaker (20:34):
So, um, and then she's
got um she's representing an
artist who's doing theseminiatures at the moment.
Eight eight by six centimeters.
Oh, that should be affordable.
I don't know, depends what youridea of affordable is, but
they're sixteen and a halfthousand dollars, so they don't
price art per square centimeter.
I know, and I always love amini, but yeah, that one's
definitely outside.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
They're exquisite.
Yeah, they're exquisite.
And this is the thing aboutart, right?
Is it's a really tricky thingto be able to gauge.
And this is why I think it'sgood to have at least some maybe
bracket or an indication sothat the average person who may
not know enough about art tounderstand what they should be
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paying, at least they can kindof go, okay, this is that's not
for me.
Um, it's way out of my pricebracket.
And then also, I don't know, Ifeel like it it's a bit of
goodwill as well to sort of comein, have someone go, like,
yeah, I kind of get it.
And you know, there's a there'sa range here or of of works
that I might be interested in.
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And I find most galleries areactually way more approachable
than maybe what you expect themto be as well.
Speaker (21:42):
I was gonna say, like,
even going to Sophie Gannon's
gallery, I remember going inthere and it's a it is the white
box type of gallery.
And Sophie was there and she'slike, come into the stock room
and have a look.
And I was just like, this islike heaven.
Just stacks and stacks of art.
And she was very approachable,very warm and friendly.
And that was really, reallylovely, actually.
I was quite taken aback becauseyou, as I said, it can be a
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very intimidating place, andalso people want to buy from
people.
So if you're really a stuck upperson in a gallery, like I'm I
just don't think that that'sreally gonna work anymore.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
I do think it's yeah,
I do think it's a bit of an
outdated approach.
However, there's obviouslystill, as I said before, people
who buy particular type of art,um, and we're talking, you know,
like very fine art, and theybuy it more as an investment.
And the people that deal withthem um are almost advising them
on an investment.
Like, what are you interestedin?
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Is it even going to be ondisplay?
There are people who have wholerooms or their own stockroom of
artwork that isn't even ontheir walls.
And that's like a whole notherlevel, right?
One of my clients is like that.
Speaker (22:50):
One of my clients, my
my funny client that's a lawyer.
She's got her um chambers onCollins Street, her um her
basically her office, and she'sleasing out another one to store
artwork.
Right.
I'm like, I'm pretty surethere's more affordable places
to store art.
I don't know how much it coststo lease out of chambers, but
um, she's got so much,especially incredible indigenous
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art.
And it's it's so lovely whenyou talk with a client and you
see their passion for it.
Yeah, she's obsessed.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
That feels slightly
different.
That's like like I there'sdifferent levels of collectors.
There's collectors becausethey're investing, and there's
collectors because they justlove it, like me and laboo-boos,
for instance, like or shoes orbag.
No, no, uh, you know, if I hadmoney, art would be something I
would probably end up with toomuch of quite easily because I
you buy it because you love it.
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But also I do the same thingwith buddy side tables and
lamps.
And so my house is side tablesand lamps and just a whole heap
of artwork just leaning againstthe wall because there's no room
for it.
Anyway, not a bad, not a badplace to live.
Um, okay, I got one more.
This is really hard.
I'm gonna just do this becauseit's a shout out to an artist
that I very much respect andhave also known for a long time.
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That's Antoinette Ferda, um,who has her own gallery and now
supports other artists withinthat gallery.
Beautiful work.
I don't know, she's just alwaysbeen amazing to me.
I've um commissioned works withher and she's just fabulous to
deal with.
Yeah, I don't know.
I think I think my point onAntoinette is dealing direct to
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an artist is also a really greatoption if you can track them
down, let's say on Instagram or,you know, social media and
approach them directly.
Some of them may say, Yes, myart is sold through X and it's a
gallery or whatever.
And some of them will go, like,Yep, I have a stock room, or
hey, what are you after?
What size do you want?
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I can create something for you.
And that is the best.
Like it probably sounds reallyintimidating to commission an
art piece.
Like, you know, you need tohave some ridiculously huge
budget, but there's so manyartists that are really happy to
do that, and they're just sothrilled to create something
that's just like specially foryou, especially for that space,
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fits your budget, looks the wayyou want it to look.
They just want you to be happy,like it's just sharing their
joy, really, isn't it?
Speaker (25:11):
That's and it's that um
that energy, that it's like
embodied energy in an artworkthat they're passing from them
to you.
It's kind of special.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Oh, 100%.
I feel like every artwork, Iguess, is like that in some way.
But to deal with an artistdirect and and have a commission
that's that's made for you, Idon't think there's anything
more special than that, really.
Speaker (25:34):
Mm-hmm.
Yes, it's one of those thingsthat if I win Lotto, there will
be signs.
Me too.
We'll be tripping artwork.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
It'll be artwork and
lamps and side tables and
occasional chairs and probablydogs, and then the wardrobe will
be a lot of bags and shoes andlaboo-boo.
Speaker (25:52):
Definitely signs, a lot
of signs, shoes.
I love it.
Okay, that was fun, Bring.
It felt fun.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's a good, it was agood roundup.
Yeah.
All right.
Well, Brie and I, we've gotsome episodes that we're excited
to share with you with somespecial guests.
But until then, we'll catch younext time.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
Yeah, go buy some
art.
Speaker (26:12):
See you, Brian.
See you later.
We've got the utmost respectfor the Wurundjeri people of the
Kulin Nation.
They're the OG custodians ofthis unceded land and its
waters, where we set up shop,create, and call home and come
to you from this podcast today.
A big shout out to all of theamazing elders who have walked
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before us, those leading the wayin the present, and the
emerging leaders who will carrythe torch into the future.
We're just lucky to be on thisjourney together.