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Welcome back to another episode of Make You Scream.
I'm Nikki Weber, and on today's episode, we're stepping into a
different kind of haunted place,one that doesn't have 4 walls.
It lives within sound. There are some songs that
comfort us, some that inspire usand even save us from ourselves.
But there are also melodies thathave been whispered about in the
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shadows. Tunes that some say can break
your heart, draw in the dead, oreven summon something far worse.
And I'm not diving into this alone today.
I have Kedara with me. She's an incredible musician.
Hi. Yeah.
Thank you so much for having me on the podcast.
This sounds like such a dope topic.
I'm super excited to be here. I'm Kedara.
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I'm a musician, singer-songwriter.
I have a new song coming out on September 12th called Heartbreak
Hills. You should totally pre save it.
That's so exciting I can't wait to hear it.
I was already telling Kedara about this for you guys who are
listening. If you check out her Instagram,
her cover images, her photos forpromoting this song remind me of
Wednesday. Such a vibe, I'm so happy with
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how they turned out. Let's get right into it.
And I have to warn you, by the end of this episode we might
just make you think twice beforepressing play on things.
Before we begin, this episode contains discussions of death,
suicide, and disturbing folklore.
If those are sensitive topics for you, please take care while
listening or skip this episode entirely.
Your mental health always comes first.
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In 1933, this Hungarian composerRezo Sores wrote a ballad called
Gloomy Sunday, and the story goes that Sores was like a
struggling musician and a heartbroken man, which I feel
like is a lot of musicians. Oh my God, it is.
That's so sad. And when he composed it, the
lyrics were written by Laszlo Javor and they were basically
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about despair, longing, and the loss of a lover.
So it's all sad. Almost immediately, rumors
started to spread about this song, and people claim that
after hearing it, they fell intosuch deep despair that they took
their own lives from simply hearing the song.
Oh my God. Yeah, so then newspapers started
coming out and they're like, there's dozens of deaths
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connected to this song, including people found with the
sheet music still in their hands.
No. Yeah, and there's reports of a
shoe keeper using a gun to off himself after hearing a beggar
hum the tune. There is a woman that is
reported to have drowned herselfwith the record still playing in
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her apartment and soldiers overseas requesting the song
before they take their own lives.
Oh my God, we're not going to listen to the song, are we?
I don't know. Do you think we shouldn't?
Oh. God, I'm scared.
I mean, I feel like we should, but you know, sound is so
powerful, like vibrations, resonance, it can be really
powerful. So like I believe that this is
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possible. I believe it is too.
I mean, some radio stations outright banned it because they
thought it was so serious. Wow.
Well, I mean, the evidence all points to this being really
dangerous. It's written in a minor key with
slow descending chords, and the melody is said to almost feel
like it's pulling you down a staircase into a dark cellar.
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Yeah, I mean minor keys are liketypically the more like sad
sounding key and then obviously descending chords will feel like
you're moving downwards. So that makes a lot of sense.
Anytime you play 2 notes that are right next to each other.
So like, I don't know like goingfrom AC to AC sharp, like it
gives you like that creepy. That's kind of like the Jaws,
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like Dun Dun, Dun Dun Dun, Dun, Dun Dun.
It can create like tension if hewrote it to feel like sad and
heartbreak. He knew what he was doing, you
know what I mean? Well, do you think it's cursed
or do you think it's just like, already sad?
People are listening to this sadsong.
I've definitely been in the bathsad or crying and I'm like
playing sad music and it's making it worse, you know?
Yeah, that part, I guess we're going to have to find out when
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we listen. OK, guys, I'm going to play this
song. And if you don't want to hear
this, skip ahead 30 seconds. Like I'm getting like heart
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palpitations. dude what the I feel like I can't breathe.
The It does. I know, I know.
That's the part that I'm like, can I debunk it?
Because I feel like we should have played it before I knew
anything. It kind of just sounds like, I
don't know, like kind of like a sad song from any movie from
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like, I don't know, the 1950s, nineteen 40s.
Yeah, it doesn't really sound like anything like crazy
Special. It just definitely sounds sad.
And I will say it gives me a sadfeeling.
But also, I know that a bunch ofpeople died to this song, so
that makes me. That is sad.
Yeah, that makes me sad. That's really sad.
I can't like fake a heart palpitation, I'll be honest with
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you. So like when that happens, it's
either because I'm having like areally strong emotion or I don't
know, maybe there's just something wrong with my bod.
But I did like feel my heart jump like a couple times while I
was playing and I was kind of like shocked about that.
It felt really like heavy. Maybe it is truly haunted.
It might be I don't want to keeplistening to find out.
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Well, Speaking of haunted music,let's talk about this haunted
music box. So music box always have given
me kind of like a bad vibe. They're using a lot of horror
movies and whatnot, and they're often linked to children's
rooms. And like you get 1 as a kid as a
gift, which is so interesting. Like when did we start giving
people music boxes? I don't know.
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And. Why do we give them to kids?
Yeah, Why kids? When they're so.
Creepy. Yeah, OK, this one famous case
happened in Victoria era Englandand Music Box was playing by
itself during a seance and witnesses swore that not only
was it playing by itself, but they watched the lid open on its
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own. Whoa, what?
Wait, so the lid wasn't supposedto open on its own?
No, like when you opened it, that's when the song would play,
but they watched it open by itself.
Oh, and like the song would start playing as it was opening.
Yeah, creepy. And now there is, of course, we
have to talk about a scary game because this podcast is not only
about scary music, we're about scary games.
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And there's actually a scary game called The Music Box Game.
I've never heard of that. One, the rules are simple.
Take a vintage music box into a dark, quiet room.
Wind it up, sit in absolute stillness and no matter what you
hear, do not look behind you. If the song stops before it
winds down, it means something has joined you.
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I will never be doing that. Are you sure we could try when
I'm in LA? Of course we're going to try.
OK, fine. I feel like it won't be as bad
together. I feel like this one is not as
bad as like bloody Mary and stuff because as long as you
don't look behind you, you won'tsee anything.
Yeah, but then what if you just invited some sort of demon or
entity like into your space and then you don't know how to get
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rid of it? But what if we just did by
listening to that sad song? Well, that would suck.
I don't know, I had a haunted music box that I kept and every
once in a while it would just dolike A1 quick turn and like the
a note would play. And I got it from an antique
store and I knew it was huge when I bought it.
No, I'm not joking. And every once in a while in the
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middle of the night or something, I would just hear
Bing. Like it just slightly turned and
I'm like Oh my God. That doesn't make any sense
because like, it shouldn't be able to move on its own.
I know, but it does. I have a video of it somewhere.
That is so crazy. But you've had like haunted
dolls and stuff. So I mean, you've definitely had
other things like that that kindof like try to communicate with
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you. So maybe whatever is haunting
that music box is like trying tocommunicate with you through
notes. Oh my God, What if you could
figure out what the notes were like?
Whether it's like AD or an A, itcould spell words for you by
whatever note it played. But then what if it just spelled
like DEAD? Well, then it would be telling
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you that it's dead, which is true.
Or that you're going to be dead.I mean that's The thing is that
we don't know who the dead is directed at.
Since there is no I or you on the keyboard, maybe we won't do
that. What do you think about making
deals with the devil in the music industry I.
Think that that happens. I don't necessarily think that
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like it's making a deal with like another person per SE.
I feel like it's kind of a choice that you make within
yourself. Like I don't think any one
person is capable of being like the devil.
You know what I mean? People can be bad people and
like, you know, borderline evil.Like, I don't think that like
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the devil wears a suit. Well, we have a few stories from
people who would disagree. Oh God, let's hear them.
I'm scared. I don't want to believe that
because I'm in the music industry, you know what I mean?
Like I don't want to believe that like the only way to
success is to like make a deal with the devil because I don't
want to lose my soul. I don't want to believe in that
well. We don't know it's the only way
to success, but these people have may have had some success
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from it. Oh, that's just so sucky.
Let's hear the stories. So in the 18th century, this
composer named Giuseppe Chartiniclaimed that this song he wrote
that's called the Drebel the Devil's Trill Sonata.
Try saying that five times fast.The Devil's Trill Sonata.
The Devil's Trill Sonata. The Devil's Trill Sonata.
The Devil Sonata. The Devil Sonata.
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I'm speaking in tongues, no? So he thinks it came to him in a
dream, and he said that the devil was standing at the foot
of his bed, violin in hand, and played the most beautiful,
complex piece that he had ever heard.
And when he woke up, he tried towrite it down, but he swore it
was never, like, as close to what he heard in the dream or as
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good. But it still became, like, very
famous. Then there's Robert Johnson, the
Blues legend who, according to lore, met the devil at a
crossroads. Roads.
And everyone's heard this story.Yeah.
They say he traded his soul for an unmatched guitar skill, and
within a few short years he wentfrom being like unremarkable to
a master and then died mysteriously at age 27.
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And you know the 20. 7 Club ClubMysterious.
Yes, the 27 Club. But there's also something to be
said. If a record label owns all your
music, they benefit from you notbeing alive because then they,
you know, make more money and can, like, do whatever they want
with your catalog. So if you have enough music and
you start causing problems for them, I'm not accusing any
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record labels of offing their artists.
OK? I'm not accusing them of that.
But I'm just saying that it would benefit them for you to be
dead if you signed a deal that, like, made it so that it would
benefit them if you were dead. You know, it's just really sad
and really unfortunate. That's why it's scary to sign
with a record label. So I'm assuming you would never
make a deal. With a label.
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No, with the devil. With the devil.
Oh well, I hope I wouldn't. What do you?
Mean you hope you don't know. It doesn't depend on how good
the deal is it. Might.
It might, but I probably won't. 3:33 PM.
Oh no, not for me. I'm in a different time zone but
I don't think I would I I valuedmy soul and my mom would also be
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really disappointed in me if I did that so I love her too much.
Do you think that's what the Pink Pony Club song is about?
Why do you say that? Because in the song she says
like her mother would be so disappointed.
Like her joining the Pink Pony Club is her actually making a
deal with the devil. Now she's like in the club.
I don't think this, I'm just asking because you said your mom
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would be so disappointed and it made me think of that.
And then I'm like, that's actually a.
Crazy take on the song. I I never thought about it like
that. God, what have you done?
You're a pink pony girl and you dance at the club.
Oh, Mama. And she's like, I'm just having
fun on the stage in my heels. But like that for all the
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musicians that may or may not have made deals with devil like
that's what they're doing now, right?
It's because they've been givingus opportunities.
Oh my God, what if that's how Chapel Rome blew up?
Oh my God, I don't even want to say it because I like.
Her. I know I love her.
OK, that brings me to the next question.
Do you think musicians are more open to strange inspiration?
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What do you mean by strange? Like for example the guy who had
a dream of the song that the devil made and then he woke up
and made it. Yes, I've had songs come to me
in dreams. I have not been successful at
like recreating them because it's kind of hard to remember
something that you heard in a dream.
But I have like recorded voice memos of like lyrics and some
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melodies. So I definitely think strange
influence is very possible for artists because I've like
experienced that myself. Do you mean like, do you think
some artists may be like spoken to by spirits or like other
things like that too and that's where they get some of their
inspiration from? Yeah, I don't think it's
impossible. Like I definitely believe in
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spirits and ghosts and those sorts of things.
And I do think that there are humans on this planet that have
the ability to communicate with them.
So if you happen to be a musicalartist and additionally someone
who's capable of communicating with the undead or spirits or
whatever, then I don't see why that wouldn't be possible,
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right? Yeah, I don't see why not.
I wonder how many big songs there are that were influenced
like by either a dream or maybe a spirit or something else.
But no one's going to, like, tell you that, you know?
No one would believe you. OK, there's one more sound we're
going to listen to that's super scary on this podcast.
I'm scared. This is the ghost frequency and
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a lot of people say that it can cause nausea or panic attacks,
etcetera. And for the podcast, I'm
actually not going to play this.It just sounds like a weird
frequency. How does it make you feel?
I felt like a slight bit light headed, not going to lie, but
that was about it. I imagine if you listen for
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longer it gets worse. This is basically the story.
If I remember correctly. These scientists were like
working on this thing and then one of them started seeing
ghosts and then like what the heck, I'm literally seeing
ghosts. And then they realized that
their fan was broken. So it was creating this like hum
that was exactly 18.98 Hertz. They realized that that
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frequency specifically not only causes extreme fear, but like
makes people even maybe see spirits or hallucinations.
That's crazy. Do you think they used that in
some scary movies? I've said that I'm like, should
I Loki put this really low on every one of my YouTube videos?
I wouldn't do that just because like it's supposed to like
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create like really scary stuff like.
Yeah, panic. Attacks.
No. I don't want to cause anyone to
have a panic attack like we wantto scare them not.
That's true. Comatize them, you know.
Yeah, It just makes me wonder. I mean, I don't think it would
be like in the background of an entire movie, but like during a
very tensiony section. I wonder if, like, the noise
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that they choose to use would bethis.
If someone like knows about it, you know what I mean.
Maybe. We'll never know.
We won't know, maybe it's just folklore, but maybe some songs
and sounds do open doors. The real question is, once
they're open, can you close them?
I hope so. So would you play any of these
songs alone at night? No.
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Why would I do that? What about you guys, the
listeners? Would you play these?
From cursed ballads to haunted lullabies and whispered deals in
the dark, music has always had alittle bit of magic in it.
But magic can work both ways. A huge thank you to Kedara for
joining me today and bringing such a haunting touch to this
episode. Thank you so much for having me,
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this was so much fun. If you want to hear more from
her, make sure to check out her work.
I'm going to link everything under the podcast description
and also if you want to look herup.
You can find me at Kidara on Instagram Tiktok.
It's spelled Kidara KIDARAH and Instagram has a second H.
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And until next time, keep your headphones close and the spirits
closer. Bye, guys.
Bye.