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August 26, 2025 21 mins

In this episode of Educate Everyone, we continue our conversation with Marybeth Gasman, the Samuel DeWitt Proctor Endowed Chair in Education and a Distinguished Professor at Rutgers University. She's a leading scholar on historically Black colleges and universities (HBCUs) and equity in higher education.  She and Dr Joseph Atman talk about whether progress is really being made on equality for students of color at the nation's colleges and what it is going to take to really make it work.  

You can find out more about Marybeth Gasman on her LinkedIn page.  

Do you have a question for Dr. Atman. You can message us on social media and you might hear your answer in an upcoming episode of Educate Everyone. Find us on Facebook.

Find out what opportunities Middle Tree has for your students at MiddleTree.org.

Dr Atman has written several books on education. You can check them out at Amazon.com.

The music you hear on the introduction to Educate Everyone is from Dr Atman's album It Took the Village. Enjoy the full song and other tracks on his album on Apple Music.

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