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May 22, 2025 37 mins

We dive deep into meditation—demystifying what it is, sharing personal journeys, and revealing how this simple practice transforms daily life. From reclaiming control over anger responses to disconnecting from overwhelming anxiety, our candid conversation explores meditation's tangible benefits in a world that never slows down.

Discover the surprising simplicity of starting a meditation practice. Whether you're skeptical or curious, we break down practical first steps that take just minutes of your day but yield profound changes. Learn how focusing on something as simple as the sound of a fan or ticking clock can anchor your mind when thoughts inevitably intrude.

Through personal stories of transformation—from reactive anger to calm responses, from anxiety to clarity—we demonstrate meditation's power to change not just moments of stress but entire life perspectives. Our journeys reveal how meditation cultivates the ability to observe your thoughts rather than being consumed by them.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, beautiful souls.
So today we are going to deepdive into meditation and new age
practices, what it is, how todo it and how it can change your
life.
So take my hand and let's deepdive into meditation.
Hey, warren, hey.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
Erica, what's up?
How are you?

Speaker 1 (00:23):
Good, good.
How are you?

Speaker 2 (00:25):
Good, good.
Are you excited for today'stopic of meditation?
I am so excited.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
I feel, like I'm a professional at this.
Oh yeah, in my own opinion.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
Yeah, I feel like I am too, but I feel like we're
professionals in our own ways.

Speaker 1 (00:40):
Yes, exactly, ticked the words right out of my mouth
yeah, yeah, yeah, cool, awesome.
So let's, uh, let's deep divelet's get right into it yeah,
all righty so what is yourdefinite or what is the true
meaning of meditation?

Speaker 2 (00:56):
yeah, let's definitely take a look at the
official definition ofmeditation.
Meditation is a practice thatinvolves focusing or clearing
your mind using a combination ofmental and physical techniques.
Awesome, okay.
So what kind of physical andmental techniques do you think

(01:16):
those are?

Speaker 1 (01:18):
As far as mental, it would be to slow your brain down
.
Just pretty much practice toslow down your mind.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
So basically what that definition is is taking the
time to just breathe first,silence the mind, because
throughout the day we canaccumulate so many thoughts and
so many emotions and feel allthese different kind of pulls

(01:49):
from the day, like work and oursocial life.
It can be stressful.
So meditation is a way offocusing on what you want and
what you need in that moment,especially when you're feeling
like you're pulled fromdifferent aspects of your life.
Right, I think that's whatmeditation can, what that

(02:09):
definition means.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
To you, to me, yeah, or what I get from it.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:15):
Yeah, and meditation to me, or my definition, is just
basically depending on the dayit's.
For me, I like to start the dayin meditation because you, it
just brings clarity to me, um,and throughout the day.
So we will get further intointo that later.

(02:38):
But for me the definition againis just to slow my mind down,
to help me focus, to help mefunction in just a different
state of mind.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
In a calmer state of mind, right, in a calmer state
of mind, exactly In a calmerstate of mind, yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:58):
Yeah, so that's my definition of meditation.
Your take on meditation, mytake, yeah, okay awesome.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
So let's talk about the benefits of meditation.
What are some benefits ofmeditation that you know of that
people usually get frommeditating?

Speaker 1 (03:17):
Yeah would be peace of mind, um to focus, being more
calm throughout the day and, uh, just mental clarity mental
clarity, self-awareness I thinkself-awareness, yeah, that's a
really good one that's a goodone because, like we talked
about last week, about umreaction, and I would think you

(03:39):
know self-awareness is a benefit, but it's also a reason why
which is what we're going to getinto next is why do people
meditate?
I think it's self-awarenessfalls into that for me because,
like you mentioned, I want to beable to control my reaction,

(04:02):
especially when I'm having ashit-ass day and somebody comes
along and they're having a shitday and now there's two people
that just are having a shit-assday and you know, I want to be
able to react with calmness.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
You know right, exactly because you want to be
able to radiate good energyrather than bad energy.
Because if you do mix twopeople having a bad day together
, it can be a clash.
It can be a clash, you neverknow, depending on who the
people are.

Speaker 1 (04:32):
Right.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
Yeah, so yeah, definitely self-awareness, I
think is a good one.

Speaker 1 (04:36):
Yeah, this is a good benefit of meditation.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
So why do you think people turn to meditation
nowadays, Now in 2025, why doyou think people turn to
meditation nowadays, now in 2025?
Why do you think peoplemeditate today?
I mean, what with, like,there's so much better things to
do?

Speaker 1 (04:54):
Why do you think people do it today?
I think our world is morechaotic today.
I think it's because I thinkpeople meditate for stress
relief to heal from parts thatthey need healing.

Speaker 2 (05:26):
And I'm again going to throw the self-awareness into
the why, because we interactwith so many people and it's
hard to cope sometimes, yeah,yeah.
So I would say, like, maybelooking for answers, like if you
have, if you're just stuck onan issue or on a problem, a
circumstance in life and youjust don't know where to turn,
you meditate, you know, becauseif you uh just dig in your mind,
you can figure it, it out.
You can figure things out thatyou didn't know.
You could figure out if youjust take time to just sit there

(05:49):
and think.

Speaker 1 (05:51):
Think about it, think , and it's not really.
I don't.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
I would have to disagree with the think because
meditation you shouldn't have tothink, but you should be able
to slow your mind down right sothe your thoughts, clearer
thoughts or, you know, guidanceenters there you go see guidance
, which is what answers, whichis where you get answers from

(06:17):
right so like meditation is you?
You're sitting down to silenceall the noise around you, all
the voices, so you can connectwith your inner self for the
guidance, for the answers thatyou need to just.

Speaker 1 (06:33):
To process life, to live, yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:36):
To process life.
So I think, yeah, to getanswers, and I don't think, yeah
, I don't think it's maybe morethinking, but it also does take
some sort of internal will.
Yeah, I don't think it's maybemore thinking, but it also does
take some sort of internal will.
It's more of a thought process,yeah internal will to silence
those thoughts, because some ofthose thoughts can be noisy,
yeah, you know, depending on whothose voices are coming from.

Speaker 1 (07:00):
Exactly.

Speaker 2 (07:02):
Alrighty.
So now we got that out of theway, we know what meditation is
generally.
Now let's talk about whatmeditation means to you and I.
Let's get personal with thetopic.
How does that sound?
Yeah, yeah, absolutely good,all righty.
So let's talk about I'll gofirst.
I'll go first.
Um, why do I meditate?

(07:22):
I meditate because, again,going back to the self-awareness
thing and kind of going back towhat we talked about in the
previous couple episodes I havean issue with anger, or acting
out out of anger, or sayingthings out of anger or saying

(07:44):
things out of anger, and that'ssomething that I haven't really
conquered yet.
So it's a proper dragon in mylife that I'm like everyday
facing Because I'm a driver andbeing a driver alone can really
initiate some pretty tensefeelings with how people drive

(08:09):
and just traffic in general.
So I meditate to just, or whenI find the time to meditate,
which sometimes could be duringwork, like we make a park
outside of Walgreens and justmeditate work, like we make a
park outside of walgreens andjust meditate.

(08:29):
Um, it helps me a lot becauseit reminds me of what I'm doing,
why I'm out there, why I'mdoing this door dash, why I'm
doing this podcast, why I'msitting here doing an outline,
why I'm sitting here making artwork.
You know what I'm saying.
So like because otherwise, if Idon't meditate and remind myself
why I'm doing this stuff, I cando two things.

(08:53):
I could set it aside and justforget about it and not take it
seriously at all and just let itgo away.
Or I could like be tense aboutit and do it out of anger and
rush through it and be likehalf-assed at it.
You know, I'm saying right uh,which I don't want to do.
I don't want to do both ofthose things.
I want to do it right.

(09:13):
I want to be creative, and Ican't do that unless I take the
time to meditate and just turneverything off.
That's why I do it okay thatmakes sense yeah yeah long story
, rant but whatever.
But that's why you I meditate.
Yeah, okay, yeah.
So what about you?

(09:34):
What's your relationship likewith meditation?

Speaker 1 (09:36):
um, my relationship with meditation is I do it so I
can disconnect from the world,from my physical body, from my
mind Well, not necessarily mind,because I'm going into that
deep dive within myself, withinmy soul.

(09:58):
So I do it so I can just slowdown, because my life is chaotic
.
If it's not one thing, it'sanother, and I get a lot of
anxiety.
And so meditation really helpsme, kind of like you know, get

(10:21):
rid of the anxiety.
Kind of like you know, get ridof the anxiety.
Um, disconnecting fromeverything, everyone, is
something that I feel like I'vemastered because, um, it just
brings me so much peace of mindand clarity.
But then it also gets me in aplace where I'm just like a

(10:41):
light switch.
Um, a place where I'm just likea light switch when I go into
deep meditation and I practiceit daily.
When I'm in deep, deepmeditation, I have no emotion,
and I don't know if that makessense to you, but I'm so
disconnected from people in justeverything, so nothing phases

(11:06):
me yeah and um.
So I have to not meditate thathard because I'm still human and
I don't want to, you know, havepeople around me think that I
don't give a shit about themwhen I really do.

(11:26):
But it's just that meditationfor me just disconnects me from
everything.
Yeah, and then I go into theworld and I'm disconnected from
everything.
You can be, you know, tellingme off, and it won't faze me.
The world can be burning, itwon't phase me.

(11:48):
So for me I go into a reallydeep, deep, deep place when I
meditate like that.
So I don't do that anymore justbecause I was told that I was a
cold person when I do that.
So now I meditate like justthroughout the day.

(12:09):
Um, I take like I have like aevery hour I do a pause, it's
just, uh, my prayer pause, andso I just stop, take like a
minute, reflect, silence my mindand then just say like a quick
affirmation or prayer or apositive word or whatever it is

(12:33):
whatever it is in that moment,because I do it every hour on
the hour and that just helps mekind of like.
When I don't do that, I feellike I feel more stressed, yeah,
and I need to, yeah, I justneed to balance that more, I

(12:54):
feel like, because it's like a.
My meditation is kind of like aroller coaster.
It's just kind of it's just amental break for me and it helps
me focus because I have, like Isaid, so much going on we all
do and sometimes I just have tolike regroup and like okay,

(13:15):
erica, this is what we're doingJust like you mentioned earlier,
like you're like what the heckam I doing?
I'm doing this, I'm doing that,blah, blah, blah.
Same thing with me.
So that's when I have to beself-aware.
And okay, erica, you need tojust stop.
And you need to take time andyou need to go into that state
of mind where you're just goingto function with clarity.

(13:37):
But I just need to learn thatbalance.
I still haven't got thatbalance right where I'm like I'm
either hot or cold and I wantto be warm, not hot or cold.

Speaker 2 (13:47):
You know, let's talk a little bit about how we
started meditating, when, whenwe started, how you felt when
you started and maybe, yeah,like how you started.

Speaker 1 (14:04):
I started meditating in 2021.
It was like right after covidwas in like 2020 and then I kind
of started fading and lifestarted kind of becoming normal,
mm-hmm.
So back to 2021, I was just in ahorrible place mentally.

(14:29):
Um had a lot going on, ofcourse, in a totally different
from what's going on now, but um, just a lot going on dealing
with craziness, and I felt likeI was losing my fucking mind.
And I was on YouTube and I wasjust like, okay, what am I doing

(14:51):
, like you know, and I'm praying, I, I don't know what to do.
So I met this girl on Instagramand she was from India.
I don't know how we becamefriends, but we would always
chat, like you know, and she wasfrom India, yeah, and so we

(15:12):
just connected.
It was so weird how we justconnected and vibed.
And, you know, I reached out toher and I was like, hey, you
know I'm going through this.
I see that you're intomeditation, help me.
So then we started chatting andshe started teaching me how to
meditate and it was so hard, but, anyways, just kept following

(15:50):
her guidance.
And then she introduced me to awhole group of of people that
in India that um would teach youknow, meditation.
So then I joined the online,the YouTube, and I would do it
like every day, every day.
I even got to the point where Icut like food.
I became a vegetarian.
I cut like onion garlic becauseit's deep.

(16:12):
Meditation is deep depending on.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
Yeah, I feel like that's like a nice level
meditation.

Speaker 1 (16:20):
Yeah, and that's what I'm telling you.
Like I mastered I don't want tosay master, I feel like I did,
but maybe I didn't in my ownopinion.

Speaker 2 (16:30):
Or your practicing.

Speaker 1 (16:31):
My practicing yes, I meditated, so I followed their
guidance so well and I dideverything that they do and I'm
telling you it was unbelievable.
Like an unbelievable experiencebut that's how I got introduced

(16:53):
to meditation is by somebody Imet on Instagram.
We connected like we weresolely connected.
It was crazy and yeah, and Ijust kept and I just did that
and it was life changing.

Speaker 2 (17:12):
I feel nowadays, when you connect with somebody on
social media, it's got to be,there's got to be some sort of
like deeper connection there.

Speaker 1 (17:19):
How did you get introduced to meditation?

Speaker 2 (17:23):
I think in 2021,.
I was kind of going throughsome pretty stupid shit too.

Speaker 1 (17:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
So what do I do?
I just meditate.
I just there was nobody thattold me about it or nobody that
coached me into doing it.
I just started, and I think itjust started by first.
I started by stretching in themorning.
I just take some stretchinglike some simple yoga stuff,

(17:52):
like down dogs, up dogs,whatever, and then I would just
top it off with just sittingthere in the morning in silence.
Oh, okay.
Way like early in the morning,like five or four in the morning
, for about like half an hour oh, nice okay and then just
started there wow I think, yeah,and it was, for me it was kind

(18:13):
of easy, I guess.
I mean not easy, but I think itwas just kind of just self
self-inflicting, I guess youknow, like I didn't.

Speaker 1 (18:21):
So when you first meditated, or okay, so when you
first meditated, was it easy foryou to just shut your mind off?

Speaker 2 (18:30):
And it's not really like a like a threshold.
I feel like, for me, like it'snot like a like a threshold, you
just like pass over and thenyou're suddenly in this new
plane of existence.
You, I'm saying like it's justlike a, sit there in silence,
turn off all.
Turn off all of the noise.
And it was easier to do it inthe morning because there was no

(18:53):
noise in the morning.
How to wake up fully refreshed?
No worries in my mind, theworries of yesterday are
forgotten.
You know, the morning your mindis so like early In the morning
, your mind is fragile.

Speaker 1 (19:08):
When I would meditate and thoughts would enter my
mind.
You know all, because we have amillion trillion thoughts
coming in.
So I would focus on a noise, soI would let the water drip, or

(19:30):
I would have a clock and I wouldhave it tick, tick, tick, tick,
and so when a thought wouldenter my mind, I would
immediately go back to thatnoise, whether it be the fan,
the clock, the water dripping.
And that's how I would stopfrom thinking, I would clear my

(19:54):
mind because I would practicethe focus.
So I would focus on that andthen that's it, and I would do
that and I would time myself andI would do it like five minutes
, 10 minutes, 15 minutes.
I would increase every time towhere I got to a place where it
just became natural for me.
So when I would go into thatmeditation I would have no

(20:21):
thoughts so now let's talk abouthow meditation has changed your
life since 2021.

Speaker 2 (20:29):
How do you think it has changed your life?

Speaker 1 (20:34):
meditation has changed my life, um, I think, in
Just my perspective on life.
For the most part I'm prettycalm.
It did help me not like raisemy voice, because previously,

(20:54):
before meditation, I used tolike raise my voice or yell and
react in a different way.
So it has helped me calm, calmdown, like I'm very.
When I react, I try to speakwith like understanding, like,

(21:14):
okay, I don't know what they'regoing through or you know, I
don't know how they're feelingtoday, so I'm gonna listen and
I'm gonna try to understandtoday.
So I'm gonna listen and I'mgonna try to understand them.
You know, so it's just changedand I don't know if that's if
I'm falling off topic here, but,um, just the way I perceive

(21:38):
people, the way I listen, theway I hear things, the way I
view life, it has changed mymindset.

Speaker 2 (21:47):
I think meditation has changed my perception of my
self-awareness.
I would react negativelysometimes, but I would react a
whole lot more, like a thousandtimes more than you, and I'm not
proud of it.
But because of my meditation Iwas able to figure out why those

(22:09):
actions happened.
Thanks to meditation, I canfigure out.
I'm still on the path offiguring out why it happens and
how I can prevent it.
I'm not perfect.

Speaker 1 (22:20):
Right, nobody is.

Speaker 2 (22:22):
And, like I mentioned before you, before we go
through phases, we could beconsistent with something and
then just fall off for a bit.
But I've been there, I'vemeditated and I think it's
changed my life in a pretty goodway.

Speaker 1 (22:33):
That's good.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
I think so.

Speaker 1 (22:36):
That's good.

Speaker 2 (22:42):
Okay, cool.
So now that we've talked aboutmeditation and what it kind of
means to us and how we kind ofdone in how it's changed our
lives, um, let's talk about somenew age practices only because
I know meditation is a form ofnew age practices today yeah, so

(23:03):
new age practices would be.

Speaker 1 (23:06):
You know I see a lot of manifestation law of
attraction um sound healing yoga.
I I did get like a what is it,the sound healing?
So I do have like the bowl withthe little sound bowl, sound
bowl, yeah so, um, when I gointo meditation, I do sound

(23:31):
healing.
I also practice manifestationlaw of attraction.
Um, I do daily affirmations and, uh, I did fall off for a
little bit but I've beenpracticing it a lot more lately.
So I'm getting back into thegroove of not so much meditation

(23:54):
, but I think I'm more towardsthe like, the new age practices,
which is very similar.
So, again, I'm just trying tofind that balance in that space
where I can incorporate both ina healthy way, just because I

(24:16):
want to be able to balance andnot be cold or show how that
light of being cold, I guess, oroff my emotions, because I can
very easily, with the practices,turn off my emotions.
So, um, new age practices, Iwould do like, um, I haven't

(24:36):
done yoga in a while.
Um, ever since I moved toArizona I haven't found a spot,
but that was nice to just gostretch and and, just, you know,
clear the mind yoga is a goodone.

Speaker 2 (24:47):
I think yoga is a good practice.
It really helps you breathe, oryou know that's.
One of the big components ofyoga is to manage and control
your breathing, because that'ssomething that we as humans kind
of just forget to do.
At least I do.
Sometimes, when I'm tense orwhen I'm angry, I can crunch my

(25:08):
teeth or hold my breath.
Or when I'm driving in acomplicated stretch of road you
know where there's a lot oftraffic I can sometimes hold my
breath.
And I shouldn't do that.
You know I shouldn't do that.
I should just that I shouldjust breathe, just keep
breathing.
So I think yoga really helpswith breathing work yeah, that's

(25:33):
a very important one too,especially with meditation you
want to be able to breathe,breathe in and out and that's a
new age practice in itself.

Speaker 1 (25:42):
Is breathing techniques right?
It's one of those things thatkind of brings us back and
that's a new age practice initself.
Is breathing techniques Rightyeah?

Speaker 2 (25:45):
It's one of those things that kind of brings us
back into like reality, likeokay, you're human, you know, I
think all of this in today'sworld, with social media and
24-hour news always going andjust our phones, always, we're
always on our phones.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
Always.

Speaker 2 (26:01):
Always, everybody.
It's that dopamine hit,dopamine hit yeah, for sure, but
um, those things can just drawus out of our life, like out of
our initial life life.
I guess you know, there can bedraining, those stuff can be
draining.
Um, some new age practices thatI kind of recognize.

(26:27):
Not so much, but I thinkastrology for me.
I like to align my personalitywith the taurus and I kind of
have a thing for the moon andstuff and the stars and the
cosmos.
I don't really look into it asmuch as I should, but I think
it's one of those things thatinteresting, yeah, like

(26:48):
numerology, astrology, thingslike that.
Astrology, the stars, anotherNew Age practice I wouldn't
really that I could maybe applyis like, maybe like the belief
of energy that people have.
I think we all have energy orlike some kind of like a field
and you can really fill it withpeople.
Yeah, like I feel like I couldread somebody's energy or their

(27:11):
emotions just by looking at themor or or how they carry
themselves.
So I think energy is a a good,uh, new age practice that some,
you know, some people kind ofoverlook, I guess yeah yeah, so
what are some common misbeliefsabout meditation?

Speaker 1 (27:30):
um, so I've heard that it can be associated with
like evil and um, some of thenew age practices as well as
like the crystals, astrology,numerology.
Some people think of that asjust not believing in God and

(27:56):
which is hard, because I wouldpractice or I would have.
I had crystals, I meditated, Idid yoga, I was into numerology,
astrology, I was into all of itand I never, not once, felt

(28:17):
like evil was overcoming me orlike how you said about energy.
I've never felt like a negativeenergy.
I've actually felt moreconnected to god than I've ever
been in my whole life and thisis in my own practices, um, just

(28:40):
studying and things like that.
Now, with those misconceptions,I did kind of get like an image
or I don't know what it is like,maybe a blockage, but I did
stop with the crystals, I didstop with the whole like

(29:04):
cleansing with the moon, thingslike that, just because I don't
know if something got in my heador or if it's just that
meditation or that, whatever itis, whatever source just had me
lean away from that, just had melean away from that.

(29:27):
So I don't know if so it's kindof hard for me to say I feel
like I don't know.
I feel in a weird place.
I feel in a weird place becauseof those misconceptions and
because of my practices and howI felt.
So I just feel conflicted.

Speaker 2 (29:44):
Right.

Speaker 1 (29:45):
And again I'm in that place where I'm trying to find
the balance and trying to findmy own.

Speaker 2 (29:52):
Your own path.

Speaker 1 (29:53):
Yes, exactly.

Speaker 2 (29:54):
Yeah, and I think that's very important because I
felt the same way.
That's so funny that you saidit, because you worded it the
same way.
I worded it the whole time.
I just I didn't feel any kindof negativity about it.

Speaker 1 (30:04):
Right.

Speaker 2 (30:04):
Not for same way.
I worded it the whole time.
I just I didn't feel any kindof negativity about it, right,
not for me, right, but I knowwhat it is about, right, I can't
sit here and say that's justevil, or crystals are evil, or
the moon is evil.
And I'm saying because I'vealready done my homework.

Speaker 1 (30:18):
I've done my homework , things like that, yeah that
sense.
Yeah, and another thing is youand I are not going into that
learning or practicing ourpractices with negative or dark
intentions either yes.
I'm going into it more so asfinding energy and light and

(30:44):
happiness, peace.

Speaker 2 (30:45):
Positivity and spreading that positivity.

Speaker 1 (30:48):
Yeah, and grounding myself to Mother Nature, because
I would do a lot of groundworktoo.
I would just drive to the ocean, drive to the forest and take
off my shoes, dig my feet in thedirt, sit there, meditate and
connect with the universe andconnect it and it was such a

(31:08):
beautiful feeling and there wasnot once of I didn't have no
negative thoughts, no negative.
I prayed and that's how Iconnected myself to God, because
to me that was more of aconnection than me attending a

(31:28):
church and, you know, nodisrespect to any religion or
culture, because I've been opento it all.
You know I've been to.
I was born and raised aCatholic.
I've been to a Christian church.
I've been to, like I, what wasit just different?

(31:50):
I'm very open and I'm I, I wantto learn and, uh, I could never
and and I was religious, likegoing to church every single day
, practicing everything as Ishould, but I didn't feel the
connection and it was.
It's kind of disappointing tome myself and I'm like you know.

(32:13):
So I found it in in these othersources and, um, I feel
extremely blessed and I feelguided and in I mean, I came
into the room earlier and wasjust like, oh my gosh, I had a
day.
But I don't know, if youobserve my personality, like you
know, do I feel like I'mstressed out and I can't like do

(32:37):
this anymore?
Or, you know, I think I've gotto a good place where I'm just
like I know how to control itmyself.
Yeah, I'm very self-aware andit's because of the different
things that I've incorporated umin my life and on my journey.
Just to have that connection.

Speaker 2 (32:57):
Yeah, I think it's important to be open-minded
about other kind of other.
I don't know like what is itlike religions or like other
ways of?

Speaker 1 (33:07):
comfort Practices.

Speaker 2 (33:08):
Other practices Right , exactly Because, when it comes
down to it, your connectionwith God is personal.

Speaker 1 (33:15):
Right.

Speaker 2 (33:15):
However you get to it , you know.
However you get to him, it her,whatever, whether it's sitting
connected with the earth, energyor a room full of people.

Speaker 1 (33:26):
Yeah, it's a spiritual.

Speaker 2 (33:27):
Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.
So long story short, meditationis not evil.
At least I don't think it is.
I don't think so I couldhonestly say 100, 100 it's not
evil.
It's a way of just getting themind clear and just getting that
self-awareness and thatguidance and just maybe

(33:50):
connecting with your innerconscience, I guess.
So basically, meditation isjust a way of just silencing all
the noise, all the voices inyour head, so you can get to
your destination, whether it'ssolving a problem or getting to
a goal or just having betterdays, changing your life, and I

(34:13):
think meditation is a goodstarting point.
I think meditation is a goodstarting point if you're looking
to change something about yourlife that you've kind of been
wanting to change but not surehow, wouldn't you say Right?

Speaker 1 (34:31):
Wouldn't you say yeah , sure, how wouldn't you say
right, you say yeah, and and?
With that being said, if you'renot sure where to start or how
to start meditation, um, justfrom personal experience, start
with five minutes, you know.
Start in the morning as soon asyou wake up either lie, sit up

(34:53):
in bed or sit up, sit on thefloor, cross your legs, you know
, and just sit there and closeyour eyes and just try to focus
the whole noise thing, like thefan going or water dripping or a

(35:18):
clock ticking.
That really did help me whenthoughts would enter my mind and
I was trying to meditate.
It helped me focus back andthen I would just, okay, go back
there and then, each time, justincrease the time and by the
time you know it, you'll besitting there in silence within

(35:39):
yourself and just listening tothoughts, rather than all this
craziness going on.
What am I going to do today?
What am I going to eat?
Did the kids get fed?
Blah, blah, blah.
You know all these differentthings.
So if you learn to shut thatdown, you'll have clearer

(36:01):
thoughts come in, and that'swhere you get your answers.

Speaker 2 (36:05):
Yeah, yep, okay, right on.
I think we've talked it out allabout meditation and some new
age practices.

Speaker 1 (36:18):
So we did cover a lot today.

Speaker 2 (36:21):
We did.

Speaker 1 (36:22):
And, with that being said, I hope you are able to
start meditation or whatever youtook from today's episode and
practice it in your life nextweek.
In our deep dive, we're goingto be talking about culture and
traditions that's a good one.

Speaker 2 (36:43):
I'm excited for that one.

Speaker 1 (36:44):
I'm excited too, because I love culture.

Speaker 2 (36:47):
Uh, I hope what we talked about today, um,
hopefully inspires you tomeditate, or at least look into
it, or maybe do your ownresearch about some new age
practices that you'd like toapply to your own life if you
feel like nothing else isworking.
If you want to change, yougotta change something in your
life.
Okay, but I think that's aboutit for today, erica yeah, that

(37:11):
wraps it up we'll catch you allnext week for traditions and
culture thank you all forlistening.

Speaker 1 (37:18):
We appreciate your support appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (37:20):
Bye, bye, everybody bye.
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