May 12, 2025 • 22 mins
Warren opens up the show by expressing that he has to drive a lengthy distance to get a quality haircut, leading into Erica talking about making sacrifices to meet a hairdresser.
As a business owner setting your own price is very important, and shouldn’t be overlooked especially when there are opportunities to hand out discounts to friends and family.
The show turns to conversations about embracing one’s age after Warren shares that his barber informed him of his hair thinning out, probably due to massive amounts of overthinking.
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
hello, hello hey, how's it going, hey erica, how
are you?
Speaker 1 (00:13):
doing good good, good yeah we made it through another
week.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
We did, didn't we?
Speaker 1 (00:19):
it's a crazy one.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
It's always a crazy one it's always a crazy week,
never a dull moment, for sureand I don't think it's gonna
ever get quiet.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
It's just always gonna be.
It's always gonna be active.
So I was gonna be proactive.
You know, whether it'sstressful or fun or exciting,
always something.
Embrace it, yeah, embrace itright right embrace it.
Why?
Why be upset about it?
You Exactly, you know, yeah,anyway, how are you?
Speaker 2 (00:45):
I'm doing good, just, you know, getting ready for the
week, and that's about it.
I'm going to try to incorporateI think I mentioned a couple
episodes ago.
I'm going to start Pilates.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
So just getting into the groove of that, and that's
pretty much what I'm lookingforward to, so I will have to
keep you posted.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
So does that mean you already went to another Pilates
class or are you working ongoing back?
Speaker 2 (01:14):
No, just working on going back for a second time.
Yeah, perfect yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Cool, well, good job.
I like that.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Well, since you're going to say that I got back to
the gym too, oh nice, yeah, fora couple days, Good.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Well, it's better than nothing, yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
I was supposed to go today but I didn't.
But I've been so busy LikeDoorDash has been like so stupid
.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Yeah, so stupid.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Yeah, yeah.
Like I mentioned before, it'soversaturated.
There's too many drivers outthere.
Right so there's not enoughcash to go around, there's not
enough of that around, so you'rekilling me.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Yeah, you're killing me.
And do you try different areas?
Speaker 1 (01:58):
I do, I do, but I tend to just stay here in this
area.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
That's good.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Yeah, I used to just stay here in this area.
That's good.
Yeah, I used to go up north, upto North Phoenix, because
that's where I'm more familiarwith.
I don't really need the GPS upthere in North Phoenix because I
know my way around there sowell, thanks to doing Lyft and
Uber and DoorDash and Amazon.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Because that's like a 45-minute drive right.
It is so it doesn't make senseto drive all the way that way.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
It doesn't make sense to drive all the way that way
it doesn't.
But you know what I have tosometimes.
Yeah, I don't know why, becausemy barber is in Glendale.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Oh, wow.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Way in Glendale, glendale, and like way in the
avenue, it's like 75th Avenue,way up there.
Yeah, and I have to go to himspecifically because he's the
only one that knows to cut myhair.
Once you find a barber, it'sfor life.
Yeah, exactly, it's for a longtime.
Exactly Because you'd be a man.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Yeah, well, female too, because it's like I moved
to Arizona and I had somebody inNew Mexico and it's like I'm
not going to be driving back andforth to do my hair.
You know, it's hard sometimes.
So I went to one lady and thenI went to her twice and that's
when I had the copper color andthen she decided to move to Las.
(03:06):
Vegas.
And I'm like bro, the coppercolor the copper like the red.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Remember I had the red oh, you had the red, was it
red?
It was like orange, like copper, I don't know, I remember, but
it was like well nice, had itdown yeah it was like a few
weeks, like a couple months ago,wasn't it right?
Speaker 2 (03:19):
okay, yeah, I remember so I went to um her.
She did a really great jobdon't get me wrong, wrong.
But then she moved, you know,and I was like, oh great, you
know, now on a mission again, myhair was getting like growing
out because my hair grows sofast.
So trying to find somebody elseto do my hair.
Finally found somebody, butbecause of my schedule.
(03:40):
It was a mission just trying toget in to do my hair schedule.
It was a mission just trying toget in to do my hair.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
So finally made the time I actually had to call into
work that day.
Oh yeah, make it work.
Yeah, and uh got it done, sonow um yeah sometimes you just
have to make that, make thatsacrifice right if, if, if the
hair has to get done it has toget done, it had to to yeah with
my haircut.
I just got my haircut too.
I had to go.
I'm broke, but I had to go.
I can't be broken, ugly broken,tarzan.
(04:12):
I got to be broken.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Presentable.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Presentable, yeah, so I had to get better.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
It's expensive, but I had to get better.
It's just the cost these days.
It it's just the cost thesedays it's for anything really
Like hair.
Back in the day I used to payabout $250.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Oh, my God.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Oh, my God.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
But you're going to freak.
I'm glad I'm not a girl, yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
I'm so glad I have to deal with this.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Well, I'm glad you're sitting down, because this last
time I did my hair I paid $600.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Oh my God it doubled my hair.
I paid 600.
Oh my god it doubled.
That's so crazy.
How isn't that robbery, isn'tthat?
Speaker 2 (04:48):
I feel like it but.
I mean it's the the cost ofproduct, right, I guess?
And then their time and they'reproviding a service.
So it's like, okay, Iappreciate the service that
you're providing.
It just sucks that inflation ishigh and that's what they're
charging these days.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
It's like normal right.
Yeah, it's just a little likeit takes me back 600 bucks for
hair, for hair.
One of the things I learnedthis past few years is to not be
afraid to set your own price,because you know how much you're
worth, as long as it's notoverwhelmingly large.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Right, like be realistic right then you're
gonna.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
You have a right to feel gross and disgusting to be
charging that much money right,but if you're paying, if you're
um undercharging, you're cuttingyourself short, you're
disrespecting yourself becauseyou know your worth, and just to
charge less for somebody, for afriend, it's just taking it
from you you know, set yourprice where it's supposed to be.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Right, regardless of family, friends, whatever.
Like yeah, if you want to givea little discount, like cool.
You know, do what you got to do, a little discount Right.
Because you have to understandthat you're taking that's like
going to my store or my houseand taking my stuff and leaving
(06:07):
with exactly stealing my productstealing my stuff exactly and
and family members and friendsshouldn't expect that discount.
Right, right, exactly, yes, yes, yeah, yes, that does yes um,
because it puts you in anawkward place it really does you
have to.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
I mean, it puts you in a place where you have to
like be firm and affirmative,like whoa.
You know, this is my business.
I have to make my profit here.
This, this is how I live.
This is how I'm making money.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
So, just like tattoo artists too, it's like you go
and you get a tattoo and they'recharging X amount of dollars,
and then there's a tip that youneed to.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
It's customary, right ?
You wouldn't want to leave atip, it's an artist.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
You're going to an artist.
It's just an art of your bodywith a tattoo an artist with
hair, just like when we wereselling herbalife.
We were selling a product andyou know, there was certain
people that, oh, just becausewe're family, I'll give it to me
.
For what you get it for and andthat's not right because yeah
(07:02):
it again.
It robs us of our profit.
In what we put into it, weinvested into ourselves, just
like they invested into theirservices that they provide, and
you should pay what, what it'sworth for what you get.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Yeah, you pay for what?
For what you uh, will youbargain for?
That's what you pay for, um,and I'm not saying it's not okay
to not give a discount to yourfriends and family, because
that's, that's a thing offriends and family discount.
You hear, you hear it everytime.
I mean all over the place rightand it's a small discount, it's
like 10 or like five percent orlike give me nothing or a hug,
(07:41):
just yeah, you know whatever you, whatever you're feeling you
know, or whatever you can givethat day.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Yeah, you know, because sometimes there's going
to be days where you're justlike you're overwhelmed or you
have so much clients where it'sjust like yeah, like I can give
you a client.
I give you kind of like theoprah show, you get it, you get
a discount.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
You don't, she does.
You don't, yeah, he does.
Exactly, yeah, um't, yeah, hedoes.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Exactly, yeah, so there's going to be times like
that, but then there's going tobe other times where it's just
like you know you need theservice or you need the money,
or whatever the case.
Things life happens.
So don't expect it is is mypoint.
I guess.
Don't expect that hand me, orwhat is it?
Speaker 1 (08:23):
don't expect that privilege.
Um yeah, and I think it's.
It's the responsibility of thebusiness owner or the whoever
selling what, to evaluate yourlike, your, your, your numbers
to, to see what's an actualdiscount where it's not hurting
you in the long run ready for abreak?
Speaker 2 (08:42):
yeah, let's take a break before.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
I say anything stupid .
Okay, we'll be right back.
So let's go back to the haircutthing.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
So, like I said, I stick with one barber, or I try
to so I go to my barber.
I found one here.
He's in Glendale, a real bigPersian guy, but he was looking
at my hair and he's like manWarren, your hair's thinning out
Like your hair's thinning ontop, you know.
He said you think too much, youthink too much.
(09:18):
I was like, no, that's not it.
But damn, thanks for letting meknow.
I don't want to hear that.
I don't want to hear it.
No one wants to hear it.
The hair's thinning out, itmade me feel so small.
But he's not wrong, though myhair is thinning out on top.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Yeah, I think it just happens.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
At 33?
.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Yeah, I guess I mean it's just well.
Did you watch the Menendezbrothers?
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Is that like a trial?
Speaker 2 (09:49):
That's the trial.
Yeah, that's the brothers thatkilled their parents.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
I didn't hear.
I mean, I heard of them but Idon't know their story.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Oh, okay, well, I was scrolling and I seen like all
these videos on TikTok of them,like of the actors for them, and
I was like what the heck?
Who are these guys like?
I kind of heard stories hereand there but I wanted to know,
okay, what like what happened?
So I turned on Netflix and Istarted watching their show, and
(10:18):
not the original, like theoriginal brothers, but the new
one.
I guess they just recently did,I don't know.
It might be also, you know, youcould correct me if I'm wrong,
but anyways, um, I believe oneof the brothers was about 21 the
other one was like 18 ish wowbut the yeah, so young, um, but
(10:39):
the 21 year old started losinghis hair, which is you know.
So you say you know 33, but thenI don't know why that popped in
my head like because somepeople have it earlier in their
life.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
They started losing their hair earlier in their life
.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Yeah, yeah, just genetics.
So, um, he had, you know, itwas like the whole, I guess like
donald trump, you know, likethe whole toupee, or is that
what it's called toupee like thetop.
I think that's the hair piecethat goes on top so he had that
like he was, so he lost all thathair where he had to get a
(11:15):
toupee and so nobody really knewabout it.
It was just him and his dad thatknew him and his brother were
close.
I mean their story.
If you have time, watch it.
It was just him and his dadthat knew him and his brother
were close.
I mean their story.
If you have time, watch it.
It's very disturbing, but theshow is addicting it's amazingly
disturbing.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
It's so bad.
You can't help a can't.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
You can't look away exactly it's weird, it's and I'm
just like it's jaw-dropping too, like what, what, what, what,
what happened?
Like what?
Like I'm over there, like yeah,it was crazy, but anyways, he
had a Dupain and one day,because they lived in a very
(11:55):
abusive it was just a nothealthy family, very toxic.
I don't know if it was a dad orsomebody pulled it, pulled it
or the mom, I can't remember,but anyways they pulled it and
the brother was like what thehell?
Like he freaked, like when didthat happen?
Like I'm used to seeing youwith hair and now it's gone and
(12:16):
he had like two little like Idon't know if it was like screws
, I don't know if it like screwson or like clips in or I don't
know, but it looked like twolittle like clips in his hair,
like indented, I don't know likeit was weird like frickenstein
kind of yeah, like little knobswhere you clip it in, I guess
yeah you know, I I would thinkit was like the dermals.
They do have you ever those isthat what they're called when
(12:38):
they do the piercing in yourskin yeah, so you know yeah, so
you know this.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I've seen those, yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
And a lot of people are doing it by their eye.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
That's too much for me.
Me too, personally, I wouldn'tget close enough to kiss that.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
It would be too distracting.
I'd be like reaching to kisslike a frog.
Yeah, like what is?
I'd be like like reaching tokiss like a frog.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Yeah.
Like what is wrong, you know,like yeah, and it's like it's a
like I have a nose ring, butthat's like nose.
That's like.
You know, people do lip.
That's eyebrows, that's fine,that's common but they're doing
it like ask me oh, you got apiercing?
(13:25):
I'm like no, it's straight up,mole bro.
Nope, not this time.
Yeah, not this time, but um,but people do it right there in
the exact same spot.
I have it as uh and it lookit's in it's inside and I'm like
how in the hell, why?
Speaker 1 (13:35):
why, though?
Speaker 2 (13:36):
I don't understand.
People do it in back of theirneck doesn't it like yeah, I've
seen that.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Doesn't it like creep you out?
Aren't you scared of likebumping into something and it
shifting inside your bodysomewhere?
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
I mean, I know it's pierced in, but what does it
pierce to your inner skin?
Wow, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Yeah, I don't know what they do.
It's like I.
That's just too much for me.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
That's wild.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Yeah, so that is my rant on the whole hair loss.
It took me on a journey ofwatching the show.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Yeah.
And then I just don't know whatI'm going to do if I lose all
my hair.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
You're going to have to get a toupee.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
I'm going to have to embrace bald-like activities.
I'm going to have to just bethat boring guy.
I'm gonna have to just spend myevenings at the library and
just sit there like a bald man,but anyway stereotype um I'm not
too worried actually because,um, I'm a tall person and not
many people can see on top of myhead.
(14:34):
They could just see, like thispart, you know yeah the fade
part, the important part.
That's all they see.
You know, unless you're tallerthan me, then you can see or you
can wear a hat.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
I mean, if you, I think that's what I think that's
what caused.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
It caused my.
I used to wear hats a lotreally a lot.
But when I was younger, my momwould always tell me like I mean
, I would always hear like don'twear hats too much, you lose
your hair.
Or they also said like don'tdye your hair too much, you lose
your hair, it's gonna fall outyeah but my mom and I told my
mom and she was like no, well,no, because your grandpa has a
full head of hair still.
(15:06):
Yeah, it's like to this day.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
So you know, you're fine, don't worry well then,
can't you take like vitamins orsomething that help with hair
growth?
Speaker 1 (15:14):
I don't think I would .
I don't think I'm, I don'tthink I'm that person to take
those kind of measures.
I think I'm more.
Just embrace it.
Yeah, absolutely, and I thinkthat's not a bad thing.
I think we should embracegetting older.
We should, I think we shouldembrace our age.
I know people my age, evenolder men, that go through
lengths to stay and look andfeel young, like men older than
(15:38):
me.
so men 35 and older going andgetting like they're getting
skin treatments, getting hairtreatments and doing this spa
days and shit.
I mean it's fine, whatever doyou, but I think I think for me
that's a little much yeahespecially being like a man
right a man, you know, it's justuh, there are some things I
(15:59):
just won't do, right, you knowyeah, I can agree with that.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
You know it just to each his own.
I feel like society, too, putsall this pressure on women where
it's like you have to look acertain way you have to be thick
.
You have to have a big ass, youhave to have big boobs.
You have to wear the flappereyelashes or helicopter wings, I
don't know, and I'm not thatperson, like I've never been the
(16:23):
type of person where I'm justgonna do all that.
You know, I do get like facialsand stuff because skin is
important, especially in theclimate we live in, but I've
never been the type to wearmakeup, um, just because my mom
didn't allow it.
Um, I was in school.
And then another reason is likeI became a mother at a young
age and so my focus was notgetting all fine.
(16:46):
It was taking care of my kidsand make sure they were taken
care of, they were dressed well,they were cleaned up.
You know, like my kids were mylife, my world.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
So I wasn't going to be looking.
All you know.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Looking all fine for the club that night and my kids
are running around with mocos.
They're all dirty that's whatbothers me a lot.
I hate seeing that people havekids and they leave them
abandoned with somebody elsewhile they go and have fun.
It's like no man, I don't likekids at all.
Kids aren't my thing.
I don't like kids at all.
(17:20):
I mean, I don't.
You know, kids aren't my thing.
I don't see kids, I just don't.
But I would.
I feel like I know a few things.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Right.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
If I were to have one all of a sudden.
You know I would.
There are some things that Ijust know are given Like I'm not
going to act stupid and try tobe out there being all you know
spreading it.
You know being stupid.
One of my kids at home with mymom, right you know like how,
how ridiculous can you get?
Speaker 2 (17:46):
yeah, how ridiculous society's just, it's just
different.
It's different from you know, afew years ago, even just it's.
It's hard to be.
It's.
I feel like it's hard to be afemale I'm.
I really like and appreciatethose that are coming out, like
Pamela Anderson Lee.
Did you see her at the Met Galalast week?
(18:07):
And she's embracing, like yousaid her age.
She's beautiful and she's justchanged up her style, and people
like that are inspiring becauseit's like okay, I don't have to
look this certain way, becauseit does create insecurities, too
, within women, because you goout and I don't know.
(18:29):
It's weird, it's a weird place,it's a weird world we live in.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
Pamela Anderson did a 180.
She used to be the one outthere with the looks.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Getting the looks, the body, body, the hair, the
everything and now she's like.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
I mean, she is older and you know it goes away, but
still like she's she's embracingthat embracing that still like
her body, is still I guess youknow, yeah, and there's a few
others too.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
I just can't think of them now.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Alicia Keys went through a natural phase.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
She is stunning that girl.
Yeah, she's good, I think she'sbeautiful?
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Yeah, she is.
But yeah, I guess, just embraceyour age, don't try to fight it
.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Yeah, it's natural and that's something that I'm
learning, actually, because I'maging and I'm just like, oh my
gosh, yeah, yeah, just embraceit.
Don't, don't, don't try toreverse it, you know it's, it's
not your place to do that.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
You know, just I, I do kind of look forward to just
being like an old wizard, youknow, like the old man that
knows everything yeah and I feellike I'm gonna live a long, a
long life like I.
I was telling my cousin theother day, our cousin the other
day, I was like man, I'm gonnabe stuck here in this earth all
to 105.
Yeah, it's suffering all theway through.
That's what's on the plan forme.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Life is.
What is life without thesedifferent obstacles and
challenges, right Like sufferingand pain and these all these
different things?
Um, they say that you reallydon't start living until you're
in your 40s, which is that'swhen you become who you really
want to be, I guess.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Assuming that you've gone through the expected trials
and tribulations, which they'realways going to be there.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Yeah, they're always going to be there.
But in your 40s you've done thewhole what you should have done
.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Yeah, you've done the whole young thing.
You've done the whole what youshould have done.
Yeah, you've done the wholeyoung thing.
You've done the whole teenagething, the whole young adult
thing, the whole.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Yeah, just everything where it's just like okay, now
I'm in my 40s, you have aclearer vision, you're able to
do more, you're wiser, um, andjust work towards what, what you
want to do, and when you get toyour 40s, it's just you're just
in a better place, I guess.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
It's like a trading point.
You've gone through enough lifeto know what you want and what
you don't like, how to react.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Yeah, and I didn't mean to cut you off there, but
just how to overcome challenges.
And I think it's more so ofyour reaction, how you react to
certain circumstances that comeup so I mean, that's what?
Speaker 1 (21:06):
yeah, yeah, exactly.
Yep.
What an episode.
What an episode.
We went from talking aboutdiscounts to hair and getting
bald and embracing your age.
(21:27):
What else did we cover?
Speaker 2 (21:29):
A lot A show.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Anyway, we went through a lot, but that's what
family therapy is.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Right.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
That's what it is.
We're going to talk aboutrandom stuff.
If you don't want to listen, goaway.
Go away, be nice.
Yes, want to listen, go away,go away, be nice I'm trying to
be nice, I'm trying to be nice,I'm really.
I, like I told you earlier, Iwant to try to bring myself out
right.
This podcast I want yes, youare yes, because I hardly ever
(21:55):
do that on social media or withanybody in in real life.
You know, this podcast is likemy platform, our platform to
just to let loose I want to tryto not limit myself yeah, a
whole lot family therapy.
That's what it is.
Yes, cool, cool.
Well, I think that's about itfor today yeah, that's a wrap
(22:17):
for me that's good yeah yeah allright, that was Family Therapy,
episode seven or eight, I don'tremember, but anyway, okay,
erica, I will see you next week.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
We'll see you next week.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
All right, Bye everybody.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Bye-bye, bye.
Thank you for listening.
Bye Thank you.
hello, hello hey, how's it going, hey erica, how
are you?
Speaker 1 (00:13):
doing good good, good yeah we made it through another
week.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
We did, didn't we?
Speaker 1 (00:19):
it's a crazy one.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
It's always a crazy one it's always a crazy week,
never a dull moment, for sureand I don't think it's gonna
ever get quiet.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
It's just always gonna be.
It's always gonna be active.
So I was gonna be proactive.
You know, whether it'sstressful or fun or exciting,
always something.
Embrace it, yeah, embrace itright right embrace it.
Why?
Why be upset about it?
You Exactly, you know, yeah,anyway, how are you?
Speaker 2 (00:45):
I'm doing good, just, you know, getting ready for the
week, and that's about it.
I'm going to try to incorporateI think I mentioned a couple
episodes ago.
I'm going to start Pilates.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
So just getting into the groove of that, and that's
pretty much what I'm lookingforward to, so I will have to
keep you posted.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
So does that mean you already went to another Pilates
class or are you working ongoing back?
Speaker 2 (01:14):
No, just working on going back for a second time.
Yeah, perfect yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Cool, well, good job.
I like that.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Well, since you're going to say that I got back to
the gym too, oh nice, yeah, fora couple days, Good.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Well, it's better than nothing, yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
I was supposed to go today but I didn't.
But I've been so busy LikeDoorDash has been like so stupid
.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Yeah, so stupid.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Yeah, yeah.
Like I mentioned before, it'soversaturated.
There's too many drivers outthere.
Right so there's not enoughcash to go around, there's not
enough of that around, so you'rekilling me.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Yeah, you're killing me.
And do you try different areas?
Speaker 1 (01:58):
I do, I do, but I tend to just stay here in this
area.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
That's good.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Yeah, I used to just stay here in this area.
That's good.
Yeah, I used to go up north, upto North Phoenix, because
that's where I'm more familiarwith.
I don't really need the GPS upthere in North Phoenix because I
know my way around there sowell, thanks to doing Lyft and
Uber and DoorDash and Amazon.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Because that's like a 45-minute drive right.
It is so it doesn't make senseto drive all the way that way.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
It doesn't make sense to drive all the way that way
it doesn't.
But you know what I have tosometimes.
Yeah, I don't know why, becausemy barber is in Glendale.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Oh, wow.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Way in Glendale, glendale, and like way in the
avenue, it's like 75th Avenue,way up there.
Yeah, and I have to go to himspecifically because he's the
only one that knows to cut myhair.
Once you find a barber, it'sfor life.
Yeah, exactly, it's for a longtime.
Exactly Because you'd be a man.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Yeah, well, female too, because it's like I moved
to Arizona and I had somebody inNew Mexico and it's like I'm
not going to be driving back andforth to do my hair.
You know, it's hard sometimes.
So I went to one lady and thenI went to her twice and that's
when I had the copper color andthen she decided to move to Las.
(03:06):
Vegas.
And I'm like bro, the coppercolor the copper like the red.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Remember I had the red oh, you had the red, was it
red?
It was like orange, like copper, I don't know, I remember, but
it was like well nice, had itdown yeah it was like a few
weeks, like a couple months ago,wasn't it right?
Speaker 2 (03:19):
okay, yeah, I remember so I went to um her.
She did a really great jobdon't get me wrong, wrong.
But then she moved, you know,and I was like, oh great, you
know, now on a mission again, myhair was getting like growing
out because my hair grows sofast.
So trying to find somebody elseto do my hair.
Finally found somebody, butbecause of my schedule.
(03:40):
It was a mission just trying toget in to do my hair schedule.
It was a mission just trying toget in to do my hair.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
So finally made the time I actually had to call into
work that day.
Oh yeah, make it work.
Yeah, and uh got it done, sonow um yeah sometimes you just
have to make that, make thatsacrifice right if, if, if the
hair has to get done it has toget done, it had to to yeah with
my haircut.
I just got my haircut too.
I had to go.
I'm broke, but I had to go.
I can't be broken, ugly broken,tarzan.
(04:12):
I got to be broken.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Presentable.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Presentable, yeah, so I had to get better.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
It's expensive, but I had to get better.
It's just the cost these days.
It it's just the cost thesedays it's for anything really
Like hair.
Back in the day I used to payabout $250.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Oh, my God.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Oh, my God.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
But you're going to freak.
I'm glad I'm not a girl, yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
I'm so glad I have to deal with this.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Well, I'm glad you're sitting down, because this last
time I did my hair I paid $600.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Oh my God it doubled my hair.
I paid 600.
Oh my god it doubled.
That's so crazy.
How isn't that robbery, isn'tthat?
Speaker 2 (04:48):
I feel like it but.
I mean it's the the cost ofproduct, right, I guess?
And then their time and they'reproviding a service.
So it's like, okay, Iappreciate the service that
you're providing.
It just sucks that inflation ishigh and that's what they're
charging these days.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
It's like normal right.
Yeah, it's just a little likeit takes me back 600 bucks for
hair, for hair.
One of the things I learnedthis past few years is to not be
afraid to set your own price,because you know how much you're
worth, as long as it's notoverwhelmingly large.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Right, like be realistic right then you're
gonna.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
You have a right to feel gross and disgusting to be
charging that much money right,but if you're paying, if you're
um undercharging, you're cuttingyourself short, you're
disrespecting yourself becauseyou know your worth, and just to
charge less for somebody, for afriend, it's just taking it
from you you know, set yourprice where it's supposed to be.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Right, regardless of family, friends, whatever.
Like yeah, if you want to givea little discount, like cool.
You know, do what you got to do, a little discount Right.
Because you have to understandthat you're taking that's like
going to my store or my houseand taking my stuff and leaving
(06:07):
with exactly stealing my productstealing my stuff exactly and
and family members and friendsshouldn't expect that discount.
Right, right, exactly, yes, yes, yeah, yes, that does yes um,
because it puts you in anawkward place it really does you
have to.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
I mean, it puts you in a place where you have to
like be firm and affirmative,like whoa.
You know, this is my business.
I have to make my profit here.
This, this is how I live.
This is how I'm making money.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
So, just like tattoo artists too, it's like you go
and you get a tattoo and they'recharging X amount of dollars,
and then there's a tip that youneed to.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
It's customary, right ?
You wouldn't want to leave atip, it's an artist.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
You're going to an artist.
It's just an art of your bodywith a tattoo an artist with
hair, just like when we wereselling herbalife.
We were selling a product andyou know, there was certain
people that, oh, just becausewe're family, I'll give it to me
.
For what you get it for and andthat's not right because yeah
(07:02):
it again.
It robs us of our profit.
In what we put into it, weinvested into ourselves, just
like they invested into theirservices that they provide, and
you should pay what, what it'sworth for what you get.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Yeah, you pay for what?
For what you uh, will youbargain for?
That's what you pay for, um,and I'm not saying it's not okay
to not give a discount to yourfriends and family, because
that's, that's a thing offriends and family discount.
You hear, you hear it everytime.
I mean all over the place rightand it's a small discount, it's
like 10 or like five percent orlike give me nothing or a hug,
(07:41):
just yeah, you know whatever you, whatever you're feeling you
know, or whatever you can givethat day.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Yeah, you know, because sometimes there's going
to be days where you're justlike you're overwhelmed or you
have so much clients where it'sjust like yeah, like I can give
you a client.
I give you kind of like theoprah show, you get it, you get
a discount.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
You don't, she does.
You don't, yeah, he does.
Exactly, yeah, um't, yeah, hedoes.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Exactly, yeah, so there's going to be times like
that, but then there's going tobe other times where it's just
like you know you need theservice or you need the money,
or whatever the case.
Things life happens.
So don't expect it is is mypoint.
I guess.
Don't expect that hand me, orwhat is it?
Speaker 1 (08:23):
don't expect that privilege.
Um yeah, and I think it's.
It's the responsibility of thebusiness owner or the whoever
selling what, to evaluate yourlike, your, your, your numbers
to, to see what's an actualdiscount where it's not hurting
you in the long run ready for abreak?
Speaker 2 (08:42):
yeah, let's take a break before.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
I say anything stupid .
Okay, we'll be right back.
So let's go back to the haircutthing.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
So, like I said, I stick with one barber, or I try
to so I go to my barber.
I found one here.
He's in Glendale, a real bigPersian guy, but he was looking
at my hair and he's like manWarren, your hair's thinning out
Like your hair's thinning ontop, you know.
He said you think too much, youthink too much.
(09:18):
I was like, no, that's not it.
But damn, thanks for letting meknow.
I don't want to hear that.
I don't want to hear it.
No one wants to hear it.
The hair's thinning out, itmade me feel so small.
But he's not wrong, though myhair is thinning out on top.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Yeah, I think it just happens.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
At 33?
.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Yeah, I guess I mean it's just well.
Did you watch the Menendezbrothers?
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Is that like a trial?
Speaker 2 (09:49):
That's the trial.
Yeah, that's the brothers thatkilled their parents.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
I didn't hear.
I mean, I heard of them but Idon't know their story.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Oh, okay, well, I was scrolling and I seen like all
these videos on TikTok of them,like of the actors for them, and
I was like what the heck?
Who are these guys like?
I kind of heard stories hereand there but I wanted to know,
okay, what like what happened?
So I turned on Netflix and Istarted watching their show, and
(10:18):
not the original, like theoriginal brothers, but the new
one.
I guess they just recently did,I don't know.
It might be also, you know, youcould correct me if I'm wrong,
but anyways, um, I believe oneof the brothers was about 21 the
other one was like 18 ish wowbut the yeah, so young, um, but
(10:39):
the 21 year old started losinghis hair, which is you know.
So you say you know 33, but thenI don't know why that popped in
my head like because somepeople have it earlier in their
life.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
They started losing their hair earlier in their life
.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Yeah, yeah, just genetics.
So, um, he had, you know, itwas like the whole, I guess like
donald trump, you know, likethe whole toupee, or is that
what it's called toupee like thetop.
I think that's the hair piecethat goes on top so he had that
like he was, so he lost all thathair where he had to get a
(11:15):
toupee and so nobody really knewabout it.
It was just him and his dad thatknew him and his brother were
close.
I mean their story.
If you have time, watch it.
It was just him and his dadthat knew him and his brother
were close.
I mean their story.
If you have time, watch it.
It's very disturbing, but theshow is addicting it's amazingly
disturbing.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
It's so bad.
You can't help a can't.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
You can't look away exactly it's weird, it's and I'm
just like it's jaw-dropping too, like what, what, what, what,
what happened?
Like what?
Like I'm over there, like yeah,it was crazy, but anyways, he
had a Dupain and one day,because they lived in a very
(11:55):
abusive it was just a nothealthy family, very toxic.
I don't know if it was a dad orsomebody pulled it, pulled it
or the mom, I can't remember,but anyways they pulled it and
the brother was like what thehell?
Like he freaked, like when didthat happen?
Like I'm used to seeing youwith hair and now it's gone and
(12:16):
he had like two little like Idon't know if it was like screws
, I don't know if it like screwson or like clips in or I don't
know, but it looked like twolittle like clips in his hair,
like indented, I don't know likeit was weird like frickenstein
kind of yeah, like little knobswhere you clip it in, I guess
yeah you know, I I would thinkit was like the dermals.
They do have you ever those isthat what they're called when
(12:38):
they do the piercing in yourskin yeah, so you know yeah, so
you know this.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I've seen those, yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
And a lot of people are doing it by their eye.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
That's too much for me.
Me too, personally, I wouldn'tget close enough to kiss that.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
It would be too distracting.
I'd be like reaching to kisslike a frog.
Yeah, like what is?
I'd be like like reaching tokiss like a frog.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Yeah.
Like what is wrong, you know,like yeah, and it's like it's a
like I have a nose ring, butthat's like nose.
That's like.
You know, people do lip.
That's eyebrows, that's fine,that's common but they're doing
it like ask me oh, you got apiercing?
(13:25):
I'm like no, it's straight up,mole bro.
Nope, not this time.
Yeah, not this time, but um,but people do it right there in
the exact same spot.
I have it as uh and it lookit's in it's inside and I'm like
how in the hell, why?
Speaker 1 (13:35):
why, though?
Speaker 2 (13:36):
I don't understand.
People do it in back of theirneck doesn't it like yeah, I've
seen that.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Doesn't it like creep you out?
Aren't you scared of likebumping into something and it
shifting inside your bodysomewhere?
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
I mean, I know it's pierced in, but what does it
pierce to your inner skin?
Wow, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Yeah, I don't know what they do.
It's like I.
That's just too much for me.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
That's wild.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Yeah, so that is my rant on the whole hair loss.
It took me on a journey ofwatching the show.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Yeah.
And then I just don't know whatI'm going to do if I lose all
my hair.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
You're going to have to get a toupee.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
I'm going to have to embrace bald-like activities.
I'm going to have to just bethat boring guy.
I'm gonna have to just spend myevenings at the library and
just sit there like a bald man,but anyway stereotype um I'm not
too worried actually because,um, I'm a tall person and not
many people can see on top of myhead.
(14:34):
They could just see, like thispart, you know yeah the fade
part, the important part.
That's all they see.
You know, unless you're tallerthan me, then you can see or you
can wear a hat.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
I mean, if you, I think that's what I think that's
what caused.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
It caused my.
I used to wear hats a lotreally a lot.
But when I was younger, my momwould always tell me like I mean
, I would always hear like don'twear hats too much, you lose
your hair.
Or they also said like don'tdye your hair too much, you lose
your hair, it's gonna fall outyeah but my mom and I told my
mom and she was like no, well,no, because your grandpa has a
full head of hair still.
(15:06):
Yeah, it's like to this day.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
So you know, you're fine, don't worry well then,
can't you take like vitamins orsomething that help with hair
growth?
Speaker 1 (15:14):
I don't think I would .
I don't think I'm, I don'tthink I'm that person to take
those kind of measures.
I think I'm more.
Just embrace it.
Yeah, absolutely, and I thinkthat's not a bad thing.
I think we should embracegetting older.
We should, I think we shouldembrace our age.
I know people my age, evenolder men, that go through
lengths to stay and look andfeel young, like men older than
(15:38):
me.
so men 35 and older going andgetting like they're getting
skin treatments, getting hairtreatments and doing this spa
days and shit.
I mean it's fine, whatever doyou, but I think I think for me
that's a little much yeahespecially being like a man
right a man, you know, it's justuh, there are some things I
(15:59):
just won't do, right, you knowyeah, I can agree with that.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
You know it just to each his own.
I feel like society, too, putsall this pressure on women where
it's like you have to look acertain way you have to be thick
.
You have to have a big ass, youhave to have big boobs.
You have to wear the flappereyelashes or helicopter wings, I
don't know, and I'm not thatperson, like I've never been the
(16:23):
type of person where I'm justgonna do all that.
You know, I do get like facialsand stuff because skin is
important, especially in theclimate we live in, but I've
never been the type to wearmakeup, um, just because my mom
didn't allow it.
Um, I was in school.
And then another reason is likeI became a mother at a young
age and so my focus was notgetting all fine.
(16:46):
It was taking care of my kidsand make sure they were taken
care of, they were dressed well,they were cleaned up.
You know, like my kids were mylife, my world.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
So I wasn't going to be looking.
All you know.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Looking all fine for the club that night and my kids
are running around with mocos.
They're all dirty that's whatbothers me a lot.
I hate seeing that people havekids and they leave them
abandoned with somebody elsewhile they go and have fun.
It's like no man, I don't likekids at all.
Kids aren't my thing.
I don't like kids at all.
(17:20):
I mean, I don't.
You know, kids aren't my thing.
I don't see kids, I just don't.
But I would.
I feel like I know a few things.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Right.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
If I were to have one all of a sudden.
You know I would.
There are some things that Ijust know are given Like I'm not
going to act stupid and try tobe out there being all you know
spreading it.
You know being stupid.
One of my kids at home with mymom, right you know like how,
how ridiculous can you get?
Speaker 2 (17:46):
yeah, how ridiculous society's just, it's just
different.
It's different from you know, afew years ago, even just it's.
It's hard to be.
It's.
I feel like it's hard to be afemale I'm.
I really like and appreciatethose that are coming out, like
Pamela Anderson Lee.
Did you see her at the Met Galalast week?
(18:07):
And she's embracing, like yousaid her age.
She's beautiful and she's justchanged up her style, and people
like that are inspiring becauseit's like okay, I don't have to
look this certain way, becauseit does create insecurities, too
, within women, because you goout and I don't know.
(18:29):
It's weird, it's a weird place,it's a weird world we live in.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
Pamela Anderson did a 180.
She used to be the one outthere with the looks.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Getting the looks, the body, body, the hair, the
everything and now she's like.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
I mean, she is older and you know it goes away, but
still like she's she's embracingthat embracing that still like
her body, is still I guess youknow, yeah, and there's a few
others too.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
I just can't think of them now.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Alicia Keys went through a natural phase.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
She is stunning that girl.
Yeah, she's good, I think she'sbeautiful?
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Yeah, she is.
But yeah, I guess, just embraceyour age, don't try to fight it
.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Yeah, it's natural and that's something that I'm
learning, actually, because I'maging and I'm just like, oh my
gosh, yeah, yeah, just embraceit.
Don't, don't, don't try toreverse it, you know it's, it's
not your place to do that.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
You know, just I, I do kind of look forward to just
being like an old wizard, youknow, like the old man that
knows everything yeah and I feellike I'm gonna live a long, a
long life like I.
I was telling my cousin theother day, our cousin the other
day, I was like man, I'm gonnabe stuck here in this earth all
to 105.
Yeah, it's suffering all theway through.
That's what's on the plan forme.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Life is.
What is life without thesedifferent obstacles and
challenges, right Like sufferingand pain and these all these
different things?
Um, they say that you reallydon't start living until you're
in your 40s, which is that'swhen you become who you really
want to be, I guess.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Assuming that you've gone through the expected trials
and tribulations, which they'realways going to be there.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Yeah, they're always going to be there.
But in your 40s you've done thewhole what you should have done
.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Yeah, you've done the whole young thing.
You've done the whole what youshould have done.
Yeah, you've done the wholeyoung thing.
You've done the whole teenagething, the whole young adult
thing, the whole.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Yeah, just everything where it's just like okay, now
I'm in my 40s, you have aclearer vision, you're able to
do more, you're wiser, um, andjust work towards what, what you
want to do, and when you get toyour 40s, it's just you're just
in a better place, I guess.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
It's like a trading point.
You've gone through enough lifeto know what you want and what
you don't like, how to react.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Yeah, and I didn't mean to cut you off there, but
just how to overcome challenges.
And I think it's more so ofyour reaction, how you react to
certain circumstances that comeup so I mean, that's what?
Speaker 1 (21:06):
yeah, yeah, exactly.
Yep.
What an episode.
What an episode.
We went from talking aboutdiscounts to hair and getting
bald and embracing your age.
(21:27):
What else did we cover?
Speaker 2 (21:29):
A lot A show.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Anyway, we went through a lot, but that's what
family therapy is.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Right.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
That's what it is.
We're going to talk aboutrandom stuff.
If you don't want to listen, goaway.
Go away, be nice.
Yes, want to listen, go away,go away, be nice I'm trying to
be nice, I'm trying to be nice,I'm really.
I, like I told you earlier, Iwant to try to bring myself out
right.
This podcast I want yes, youare yes, because I hardly ever
(21:55):
do that on social media or withanybody in in real life.
You know, this podcast is likemy platform, our platform to
just to let loose I want to tryto not limit myself yeah, a
whole lot family therapy.
That's what it is.
Yes, cool, cool.
Well, I think that's about itfor today yeah, that's a wrap
(22:17):
for me that's good yeah yeah allright, that was Family Therapy,
episode seven or eight, I don'tremember, but anyway, okay,
erica, I will see you next week.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
We'll see you next week.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
All right, Bye everybody.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Bye-bye, bye.
Thank you for listening.
Bye Thank you.
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