May 20, 2025 • 17 mins
What does it truly mean to be godly? DJ Cornbread (aka the Empress) challenges listeners to examine the disconnect between religious identity and authentic behavior in this thought-provoking episode. With unflinching honesty, she addresses the painful reality of religious hypocrisy—those who present themselves as particularly devout while judging others for behaviors they themselves engage in behind closed doors.
The conversation navigates complex questions about faith and authenticity: Does merely attending church make someone spiritually superior? Can someone be genuinely faithful without ever stepping foot in a church building? What happens when those who claim to represent God's love are the very ones making others feel unwelcome or judged? DJ Cornbread doesn't shy away from pointing out how this hypocrisy has driven countless people away from organized religion, particularly those from marginalized communities who often feel most judged.
With wisdom and vulnerability, she reminds listeners that everyone is "working on themselves" and that spiritual growth is a journey rather than a destination. The episode challenges religious performativity in favor of authentic faith that welcomes rather than excludes. As DJ Cornbread puts it, "You should be able to go to any church and have a good time and be blessed in the spirit"—a simple yet profound reminder of what religious communities should aspire to be.
Whether you're a regular churchgoer, someone who's been hurt by religious hypocrisy, or simply curious about the intersection of faith and authenticity, this episode offers valuable perspectives on what it truly means to practice what you preach. Join the conversation and share your thoughts on these important questions about godliness, judgment, and living an authentic faith.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Shit Show.
The podcast starts now with DJCornbread, aka the Empress.
Hey, hey, ladies and gentlemen,it's the Big man.
This is the largest fashionshow of the podcast.
Say the sound of the beats.
What's up y'all?
(00:23):
It's your girl.
Dj Cornbread, aka aka theEmpress.
Y'all already know what time itis.
This is going to be a bow.
I don't know if you would callit false prophets I wouldn't
probably say that.
But what do y'all think aboutpeople that go to church and
they are supposed to be so godlybut they do things that you
(00:44):
wouldn't, or that, in their mind, church people aren't supposed
to do?
So I'm talking about the onesthat they're so spiritual and
they're so this and that theysay they bought a book but then
you up in a lot to somebody oryou'll do some, some stuff
that's not, that's not theordinary for a person.
That's you know.
So it's church.
(01:04):
Like what do you call thosepeople?
Because how do you refer toyourself?
Or people look at you?
Or you want people to look atyou like you're just so godly
and but you're doing things thatyou will look at another person
that they were doing and belike uh-uh, see, they just need
guys.
Nope, they just need the I justpray for them kind of people.
(01:25):
But if you turn around and youdo the same type of stuff, what
does that make you?
That stuff like it confuses meBecause I'm like I understand
some people.
I mean, a lot of people areworking on themselves and
they're not just like 100%Nobody's perfect, but God.
So I understand, like, ifpeople have certain things
(01:46):
they're going through andthey're doing and they're trying
to get to their you know thatstate where they feel like
they're 100% and God's hands arelike you know.
But if you're a person that isa backslider I guess that's what
they used to call them.
Well, my mom you know, havingconversations with her when she
was living A backslider orwhatever, do you have the right
(02:11):
to downlook someone for doinganything or any type of thing
when you are also doing the sametype of things?
But you call yourself to be sogodly, how does that work?
Like somebody really needs totalk about that and say
something about that.
I mean really needs to talkabout that and say something
about that.
I mean it needs to be an actual, uh, bigger conversation about
(02:31):
it.
I need to get some people onthe line that you know, have
some day they got something tosay, because I'm, I'm starting
to like, are they?
Are there even any really trulygodly people?
Because if you are doing all thethings that you claim that to
not be godly, are you doing someof the things you know, some
things that aren't godly in yourbook, and then you see other
people doing, but then you'resupposed to be so saint, so
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perfect, 100, but you do thosethings.
So I'm, I'm so confused.
So what is it?
But are they?
I mean, is it they looking atcertain problem?
Okay, it's right.
Depending on this, depending onif this going on and why I'm
lying or why I'm doing this,should they be on the same, be
looked at the same and judgedthe same exact way as another
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person that they're trying tojudge because they've done that?
Or are they supposed to be abetter person just because they
go to church four times a month,three times a month?
Church four times a month,three times a month.
I mean then, also with that too, what if you're a person like
you, are trying to get your liferight, or you say, you're
telling people that you're,you're just 100% for him and you
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don't go to church?
It's so there's some peoplewhere that is okay.
You don't have to actually begoing to church and stepping
foot in a side of a church, youknow to say that this, I'm
getting my life right, I'm aright life right with christ and
I've been baptized, and thisisn't it.
You know, you don't have tojust be going to church every
day.
Some people they have they gotin their life right or they have
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their life right and theyswitch.
You know tables and tables haveturned and they on the right
track and they don't go tochurch at all, but they read
their bible every day, theypractice their bible, they go,
they do everything you know inthe bible that god is asking of
us, like so I mean, does thatmake them different?
Because, oh, you don't go tochurch, so you're not.
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I don't know how can you be 100for him if you're not even
stepping in his house?
I mean, is that right?
Because you're not supposed tojudge people either.
So if you are, also, if you'rea person that's so godly and
churchy, churchy and things likethat, how are you judging
somebody and have your noseturned, turned up at somebody
else because they're not whatyou want them to be?
(04:42):
That doesn't make sense to meeither.
So we I mean what y'all think,I mean it is supposed to be okay
just because a person that'sgodly, the way they do it, if
they do it a little bit, tad bitdifferent, or they get they got
, they can jump through hoopsand do this, isn't it because
they are, they feel like they'recloser to him.
(05:04):
I mean I'm so confused and how,and do you I mean I honestly, do
y'all think it's okay to get it, get advice from a person
that's godly and they go tochurch and, you know, say this
isn't it?
Is it okay to get advice forthose type of people if they are
doing negative things or notsaying about a book, or I mean,
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nope, is that supposed to beokay?
No, is it okay, no or no?
If they're not strictly about abook, you shouldn't be getting
any type of information or orasking them anything.
For people like that, what doy'all think?
Do y'all think that's?
I mean that's the thing, becauseI feel like everybody, some
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people are in your life for areason, some for a season, and
everybody's not meant to be inyour life for your lifetime.
So God might send some peoplein your life just to teach you a
lesson, and it always does nothave to be good.
And I've had to learn thatbecause, just because you feel
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like I used to man, somebody canbe brought into my life and I'm
like, oh well, god wouldn'thave brought him here or brought
her here if it wasn't meant tobe or they weren't supposed to
be around me.
I know relationships.
I said I'm just talking aboutperiod.
Anybody could have been a dog,okay, you know.
So you never know, but it'slike, oh yeah, he brought him.
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This is why, this is why thisis why he brought him here, you
know.
So it's like, okay, this is whyyou, this will be.
He brought him here because itis, but a lot of the times and
sometimes gotta bring somebodyinto your life or have somebody
around you and just to show you,because he's trying to open
your eyes, to show you certainstuff, but you're not listening.
I had to learn that as well,because I thought everyone that
(06:57):
came in my life were meant goodby me.
And they were.
He was sending them because agood thing, you know, this is a
good person and that's why, youknow, he.
He put them in my life, youknow, because they are good for
me, like they're.
It can be, like I said, it canbe, business relationship.
It can be anything, but a lotof the times and saying it's a
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lot of times I'm wonderingeverybody don't have the same
kind of look I have, butsometimes they're not.
I mean, that's not even theissue, that is not even the
reason.
Like I said, people are in yourlife for a season, a reason,
and it's just like you have tounderstand, like being, I feel,
like being saying you're justalso 100% a church person, a
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church woman or man, and this,this and that.
But then you go, do certainthings or you lie, and then a
lot of church people say, ohwell, you can't be drinking, and
this, this, this, that I don'tdrink.
I don't see how people go tochurch and they call themselves
saved, or this, this, that, andthey're drinking alcohol or
(08:04):
they're doing this, they'regoing out to clubs or going out
to bars, well, this, this, thisthat I mean.
So what does that make you if,say, someone that does go to
your church has something andthey have it at a bar, or they
have it at a lounge, not a club,but you know a place where
everybody's going to eat andthis, this and that.
(08:26):
What if they have somethinglike that and are you not able
to go because the type of personthat you are, because of the
church and things like that.
Oh well, since I'm like this,no, we can't go to stuff like
that.
So I won't be able to go toyour dinner because it's a
lounge, y'all trying to dokaraoke.
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That's not Godly, so I can't dostuff like that.
Like I mean I, we need to get,we need to have more
conversations and stuff likethat about what's going on,
because I mean I'm I'm kind ofkind of confused because me, at
this point in this age, how areyou supposed to?
I mean, no, you can find outstuff by a person and be like
(09:09):
what that person's so godly andand this isn't that.
And every time I have aconversation with them, they
it's always this and it's alwaysthat and pray and and come to
church, and this is never tooquick to do some off the wall
stuff or a lie.
And may don't just say this sothat I'm just gonna make this up
because I really don't want totalk to her.
I'm gonna make stuff.
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I really don't want her overhere.
So then does that make youstill?
You still godly pricing youstill like a hundred percent for
him?
Or, like I said, does it have a?
It's a code.
Oh well, that part of the code,the godly code.
If you lie or you do people likethat only a couple times a
month or once a month, then youget a pass.
You good like is this, that isthat how it's supposed to work,
(09:51):
because that ain't right, thatain't right.
You, working on yourself, justlike everybody else working on
themselves, like you, can't bejudging people and doing or
doing certain things to peoplebecause of that.
That is not okay and to methat's like a fake person, like
a fake kind of like a fakeprophet.
So you know, it's just like Idon't like I mean, it's not the
(10:13):
same thing, but you see what I'msaying, like it's just like if
a person was like I'm not't know, I don't deal with prophets,
and this is me If you're aperson from church and you
always got something to say tosomebody and he always got the
word and you always got this andlisten to this and listen to
that.
And because he said in the Bible, he said but if you turn around
and you'll do this.
That's real.
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But are you practicing it?
Are you just making peoplethink that you're practicing it,
is it?
But then behind closed doors.
When you're around certainpeople or children or people
that don't understand what'sreally going on and what you're
doing, that's when you can doyour little edgy stuff, because,
hey, it's behind closed doors.
That ain't right, that is notwhat's up at all, it's all.
(11:04):
And, like I said, there needsto be a whole situation,
conversation about all of that,because I don't understand what
it is with people that just feellike, oh, I'm saved and I've
got baptized, and then that somepeople just feel like any and
everything goes, they can dowhatever they want and say
whatever they want and they just100%, you know, by him.
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But then you turn around andsteady doing stuff, steady doing
negative stuff, steady doingstuff that's not godly and
that's not of him.
But you are, and they be themain ones that always have
something to say and always havea situation going on.
But in you real being to be insomebody's business or telling
somebody else's businesssomebody else, is that also?
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Is that a thing?
Is that a thing?
Do church people?
They said that they're themessiest ones, they be gossiping
and stuff like is.
Is that a thing?
Are you supposed to be doingsomething like that?
If you're godly, are yousupposed to be?
Um, are you supposed to be, uh,sitting there being all messy?
And this isn't it.
When you are a woman of god, orI mean, it has to be levels to
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this stuff, man, it has to besome type of you.
You're not supposed to be doingthis, are you not?
I mean, you can't.
I just feel like people can't begoing around just saying they
just like 100 percent this andthat and trying to practice
certain things, teach this,teach that but then you, on the
back end, you're doing thisBecause I could say I can tell
you I've been baptized and I'mworking on me and I might not
(12:31):
100 percent.
I drink wine and you know I saysomething like that, but it's
like but it's like randomly, youknow like you can say certain
things or you do this, but it'snot saying that.
Oh well, I'm not going to beturning my nose up and looking
at a person a different kind ofway just because I see them do
this, or I see them at this spotand I'm like, oh, she know
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better.
She was just at church,screaming and getting a holy
ghost, and I, but she now I seeher drinking a glass of wine
while they're eating at cheddarsor something like.
Like, I mean, is that Iwouldn't do?
I mean, I'm not, that ain't me,but you have certain people
that'll do that, and that's thebad thing about that is is
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that's why these days, a lot ofpeople don't like going to
church.
They don't like going to churchbecause they feel like
especially if you are a lgbtq oranything, or you're just a
person that don't like, you know, don't like certain things that
the ways that some people don'teven like certain.
They don't like certain waysthat people church, people at
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certain church people becausethey'll sit there and try like
they don't practice what theypreach, and that's the main
thing.
But when it comes to otherindividuals, some of them don't
feel comfortable going becauseof the way that people act when
they are around them and whenthey're in church.
They make them feel less thanmake them feel like they're not
supposed to be there, likethey're not a person like that.
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What part of going to churchand part of god is that right, I
mean?
But then you have those thatalso look at it.
Well, god, you weren't supposedto be like it loving on a woman
or like it on a woman, and theman's supposed to be like a man
and things like that.
So they feel like if you'redoing that and they're saying in
the bible, they feel like in abible, that's not what god said
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and that's not what's for.
That's not right.
So they make people that arelike that when they come to
church to make them feel likethey're less than so.
That's why certain people don'tbe want to go to church.
That's why, soon as that, youhave certain people that will
sit there.
They feel more comfortablewatching church in their room,
in their bed, in their chair, atthe pool and just listen.
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I mean, I'm like it don'tmatter.
They feel in the mounds, Idon't care where it is.
They feel more comfortablewatching their pastor or someone
or something that has to dowith church.
On weekends, every day biblestudy wednesday.
Bible study monday, whenever.
They feel more comfortabledoing that alone, in their own
space, because they feel likethey're going to be judged when
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they go to an actual building orgo to an actual church.
And that's sad because you can'teven invite people places these
days.
You invite them to a church orsomething and they might feel,
oh yeah, they don't look at meand feel like this and think
like this and I don't even wantto go through it.
And that's sad, it's like that.
It shouldn't even be like that.
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You should be able to go to anychurch and and have a good time
and be blessed in the spiritand just have you know, just be
able to.
You know, do you?
I mean I just, I don'tunderstand these days, like I
just, like I said, I just thinkI feel like people should be
practicing what they preach.
Like if you that's, that's whatit all boils I mean don't have
nothing to do with me and what Ihave going on and how like
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God's working on me and how muchI go to church, this is it.
I feel like if you are lettingpeople know or trying to make
people feel like you're just100% for him, you need to be a
person that's practicing whatyou preach.
Don't be sitting there tryingto preach things to people but
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then on the back end you'redoing all this extra stuff and
stuff like that, like you cansay you know anything.
You know to make someone feelthis kind of way, or or you know
to do, but oh, you need to.
I feel like you do better.
I'm gonna pray for you.
I'm not talking about stufflike that.
I'm talking about looking downon people and turning your nose
up at people just because ofcertain things that they do that
you're also doing.
So y'all need to get that right.
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Y'all need to get that in checkand once I find me, somebody
that can actually see they theyon the same page as me and we
can go there on this kind ofconversation I'm gonna have to
come back with a part two withsome church women and men or
somebody from you know, andwe're going to have to have a
whole conversation about thisbecause we need to know what's
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going on and get on thissituation.
But y'all already know what itis it's your girl.
Dj Cornbread, aka the Empresshey, hey man, this is Big Ace of
Clubs.
I'm the big man.
This is the largest fashionshow on the podcast.
Same sound, the biggest OutroMusic.
The Shit Show.
The podcast starts now with DJCornbread, aka the Empress.
Hey, hey, ladies and gentlemen,it's the Big man.
This is the largest fashionshow of the podcast.
Say the sound of the beats.
What's up y'all?
(00:23):
It's your girl.
Dj Cornbread, aka aka theEmpress.
Y'all already know what time itis.
This is going to be a bow.
I don't know if you would callit false prophets I wouldn't
probably say that.
But what do y'all think aboutpeople that go to church and
they are supposed to be so godlybut they do things that you
(00:44):
wouldn't, or that, in their mind, church people aren't supposed
to do?
So I'm talking about the onesthat they're so spiritual and
they're so this and that theysay they bought a book but then
you up in a lot to somebody oryou'll do some, some stuff
that's not, that's not theordinary for a person.
That's you know.
So it's church.
(01:04):
Like what do you call thosepeople?
Because how do you refer toyourself?
Or people look at you?
Or you want people to look atyou like you're just so godly
and but you're doing things thatyou will look at another person
that they were doing and belike uh-uh, see, they just need
guys.
Nope, they just need the I justpray for them kind of people.
(01:25):
But if you turn around and youdo the same type of stuff, what
does that make you?
That stuff like it confuses meBecause I'm like I understand
some people.
I mean, a lot of people areworking on themselves and
they're not just like 100%Nobody's perfect, but God.
So I understand, like, ifpeople have certain things
(01:46):
they're going through andthey're doing and they're trying
to get to their you know thatstate where they feel like
they're 100% and God's hands arelike you know.
But if you're a person that isa backslider I guess that's what
they used to call them.
Well, my mom you know, havingconversations with her when she
was living A backslider orwhatever, do you have the right
(02:11):
to downlook someone for doinganything or any type of thing
when you are also doing the sametype of things?
But you call yourself to be sogodly, how does that work?
Like somebody really needs totalk about that and say
something about that.
I mean really needs to talkabout that and say something
about that.
I mean it needs to be an actual, uh, bigger conversation about
(02:31):
it.
I need to get some people onthe line that you know, have
some day they got something tosay, because I'm, I'm starting
to like, are they?
Are there even any really trulygodly people?
Because if you are doing all thethings that you claim that to
not be godly, are you doing someof the things you know, some
things that aren't godly in yourbook, and then you see other
people doing, but then you'resupposed to be so saint, so
(02:51):
perfect, 100, but you do thosethings.
So I'm, I'm so confused.
So what is it?
But are they?
I mean, is it they looking atcertain problem?
Okay, it's right.
Depending on this, depending onif this going on and why I'm
lying or why I'm doing this,should they be on the same, be
looked at the same and judgedthe same exact way as another
(03:14):
person that they're trying tojudge because they've done that?
Or are they supposed to be abetter person just because they
go to church four times a month,three times a month?
Church four times a month,three times a month.
I mean then, also with that too, what if you're a person like
you, are trying to get your liferight, or you say, you're
telling people that you're,you're just 100% for him and you
(03:36):
don't go to church?
It's so there's some peoplewhere that is okay.
You don't have to actually begoing to church and stepping
foot in a side of a church, youknow to say that this, I'm
getting my life right, I'm aright life right with christ and
I've been baptized, and thisisn't it.
You know, you don't have tojust be going to church every
day.
Some people they have they gotin their life right or they have
(03:59):
their life right and theyswitch.
You know tables and tables haveturned and they on the right
track and they don't go tochurch at all, but they read
their bible every day, theypractice their bible, they go,
they do everything you know inthe bible that god is asking of
us, like so I mean, does thatmake them different?
Because, oh, you don't go tochurch, so you're not.
(04:21):
I don't know how can you be 100for him if you're not even
stepping in his house?
I mean, is that right?
Because you're not supposed tojudge people either.
So if you are, also, if you'rea person that's so godly and
churchy, churchy and things likethat, how are you judging
somebody and have your noseturned, turned up at somebody
else because they're not whatyou want them to be?
(04:42):
That doesn't make sense to meeither.
So we I mean what y'all think,I mean it is supposed to be okay
just because a person that'sgodly, the way they do it, if
they do it a little bit, tad bitdifferent, or they get they got
, they can jump through hoopsand do this, isn't it because
they are, they feel like they'recloser to him.
(05:04):
I mean I'm so confused and how,and do you I mean I honestly, do
y'all think it's okay to get it, get advice from a person
that's godly and they go tochurch and, you know, say this
isn't it?
Is it okay to get advice forthose type of people if they are
doing negative things or notsaying about a book, or I mean,
(05:30):
nope, is that supposed to beokay?
No, is it okay, no or no?
If they're not strictly about abook, you shouldn't be getting
any type of information or orasking them anything.
For people like that, what doy'all think?
Do y'all think that's?
I mean that's the thing, becauseI feel like everybody, some
(05:51):
people are in your life for areason, some for a season, and
everybody's not meant to be inyour life for your lifetime.
So God might send some peoplein your life just to teach you a
lesson, and it always does nothave to be good.
And I've had to learn thatbecause, just because you feel
(06:13):
like I used to man, somebody canbe brought into my life and I'm
like, oh well, god wouldn'thave brought him here or brought
her here if it wasn't meant tobe or they weren't supposed to
be around me.
I know relationships.
I said I'm just talking aboutperiod.
Anybody could have been a dog,okay, you know.
So you never know, but it'slike, oh yeah, he brought him.
(06:34):
This is why, this is why thisis why he brought him here, you
know.
So it's like, okay, this is whyyou, this will be.
He brought him here because itis, but a lot of the times and
sometimes gotta bring somebodyinto your life or have somebody
around you and just to show you,because he's trying to open
your eyes, to show you certainstuff, but you're not listening.
I had to learn that as well,because I thought everyone that
(06:57):
came in my life were meant goodby me.
And they were.
He was sending them because agood thing, you know, this is a
good person and that's why, youknow, he.
He put them in my life, youknow, because they are good for
me, like they're.
It can be, like I said, it canbe, business relationship.
It can be anything, but a lotof the times and saying it's a
(07:20):
lot of times I'm wonderingeverybody don't have the same
kind of look I have, butsometimes they're not.
I mean, that's not even theissue, that is not even the
reason.
Like I said, people are in yourlife for a season, a reason,
and it's just like you have tounderstand, like being, I feel,
like being saying you're justalso 100% a church person, a
(07:43):
church woman or man, and this,this and that.
But then you go, do certainthings or you lie, and then a
lot of church people say, ohwell, you can't be drinking, and
this, this, this, that I don'tdrink.
I don't see how people go tochurch and they call themselves
saved, or this, this, that, andthey're drinking alcohol or
(08:04):
they're doing this, they'regoing out to clubs or going out
to bars, well, this, this, thisthat I mean.
So what does that make you if,say, someone that does go to
your church has something andthey have it at a bar, or they
have it at a lounge, not a club,but you know a place where
everybody's going to eat andthis, this and that.
(08:26):
What if they have somethinglike that and are you not able
to go because the type of personthat you are, because of the
church and things like that.
Oh well, since I'm like this,no, we can't go to stuff like
that.
So I won't be able to go toyour dinner because it's a
lounge, y'all trying to dokaraoke.
(08:47):
That's not Godly, so I can't dostuff like that.
Like I mean I, we need to get,we need to have more
conversations and stuff likethat about what's going on,
because I mean I'm I'm kind ofkind of confused because me, at
this point in this age, how areyou supposed to?
I mean, no, you can find outstuff by a person and be like
(09:09):
what that person's so godly andand this isn't that.
And every time I have aconversation with them, they
it's always this and it's alwaysthat and pray and and come to
church, and this is never tooquick to do some off the wall
stuff or a lie.
And may don't just say this sothat I'm just gonna make this up
because I really don't want totalk to her.
I'm gonna make stuff.
(09:29):
I really don't want her overhere.
So then does that make youstill?
You still godly pricing youstill like a hundred percent for
him?
Or, like I said, does it have a?
It's a code.
Oh well, that part of the code,the godly code.
If you lie or you do people likethat only a couple times a
month or once a month, then youget a pass.
You good like is this, that isthat how it's supposed to work,
(09:51):
because that ain't right, thatain't right.
You, working on yourself, justlike everybody else working on
themselves, like you, can't bejudging people and doing or
doing certain things to peoplebecause of that.
That is not okay and to methat's like a fake person, like
a fake kind of like a fakeprophet.
So you know, it's just like Idon't like I mean, it's not the
(10:13):
same thing, but you see what I'msaying, like it's just like if
a person was like I'm not't know, I don't deal with prophets,
and this is me If you're aperson from church and you
always got something to say tosomebody and he always got the
word and you always got this andlisten to this and listen to
that.
And because he said in the Bible, he said but if you turn around
and you'll do this.
That's real.
(10:40):
But are you practicing it?
Are you just making peoplethink that you're practicing it,
is it?
But then behind closed doors.
When you're around certainpeople or children or people
that don't understand what'sreally going on and what you're
doing, that's when you can doyour little edgy stuff, because,
hey, it's behind closed doors.
That ain't right, that is notwhat's up at all, it's all.
(11:04):
And, like I said, there needsto be a whole situation,
conversation about all of that,because I don't understand what
it is with people that just feellike, oh, I'm saved and I've
got baptized, and then that somepeople just feel like any and
everything goes, they can dowhatever they want and say
whatever they want and they just100%, you know, by him.
(11:26):
But then you turn around andsteady doing stuff, steady doing
negative stuff, steady doingstuff that's not godly and
that's not of him.
But you are, and they be themain ones that always have
something to say and always havea situation going on.
But in you real being to be insomebody's business or telling
somebody else's businesssomebody else, is that also?
(11:48):
Is that a thing?
Is that a thing?
Do church people?
They said that they're themessiest ones, they be gossiping
and stuff like is.
Is that a thing?
Are you supposed to be doingsomething like that?
If you're godly, are yousupposed to be?
Um, are you supposed to be, uh,sitting there being all messy?
And this isn't it.
When you are a woman of god, orI mean, it has to be levels to
(12:09):
this stuff, man, it has to besome type of you.
You're not supposed to be doingthis, are you not?
I mean, you can't.
I just feel like people can't begoing around just saying they
just like 100 percent this andthat and trying to practice
certain things, teach this,teach that but then you, on the
back end, you're doing thisBecause I could say I can tell
you I've been baptized and I'mworking on me and I might not
(12:31):
100 percent.
I drink wine and you know I saysomething like that, but it's
like but it's like randomly, youknow like you can say certain
things or you do this, but it'snot saying that.
Oh well, I'm not going to beturning my nose up and looking
at a person a different kind ofway just because I see them do
this, or I see them at this spotand I'm like, oh, she know
(12:51):
better.
She was just at church,screaming and getting a holy
ghost, and I, but she now I seeher drinking a glass of wine
while they're eating at cheddarsor something like.
Like, I mean, is that Iwouldn't do?
I mean, I'm not, that ain't me,but you have certain people
that'll do that, and that's thebad thing about that is is
(13:11):
that's why these days, a lot ofpeople don't like going to
church.
They don't like going to churchbecause they feel like
especially if you are a lgbtq oranything, or you're just a
person that don't like, you know, don't like certain things that
the ways that some people don'teven like certain.
They don't like certain waysthat people church, people at
(13:33):
certain church people becausethey'll sit there and try like
they don't practice what theypreach, and that's the main
thing.
But when it comes to otherindividuals, some of them don't
feel comfortable going becauseof the way that people act when
they are around them and whenthey're in church.
They make them feel less thanmake them feel like they're not
supposed to be there, likethey're not a person like that.
(13:55):
What part of going to churchand part of god is that right, I
mean?
But then you have those thatalso look at it.
Well, god, you weren't supposedto be like it loving on a woman
or like it on a woman, and theman's supposed to be like a man
and things like that.
So they feel like if you'redoing that and they're saying in
the bible, they feel like in abible, that's not what god said
(14:16):
and that's not what's for.
That's not right.
So they make people that arelike that when they come to
church to make them feel likethey're less than so.
That's why certain people don'tbe want to go to church.
That's why, soon as that, youhave certain people that will
sit there.
They feel more comfortablewatching church in their room,
in their bed, in their chair, atthe pool and just listen.
(14:37):
I mean, I'm like it don'tmatter.
They feel in the mounds, Idon't care where it is.
They feel more comfortablewatching their pastor or someone
or something that has to dowith church.
On weekends, every day biblestudy wednesday.
Bible study monday, whenever.
They feel more comfortabledoing that alone, in their own
space, because they feel likethey're going to be judged when
(14:59):
they go to an actual building orgo to an actual church.
And that's sad because you can'teven invite people places these
days.
You invite them to a church orsomething and they might feel,
oh yeah, they don't look at meand feel like this and think
like this and I don't even wantto go through it.
And that's sad, it's like that.
It shouldn't even be like that.
(15:20):
You should be able to go to anychurch and and have a good time
and be blessed in the spiritand just have you know, just be
able to.
You know, do you?
I mean I just, I don'tunderstand these days, like I
just, like I said, I just thinkI feel like people should be
practicing what they preach.
Like if you that's, that's whatit all boils I mean don't have
nothing to do with me and what Ihave going on and how like
(15:42):
God's working on me and how muchI go to church, this is it.
I feel like if you are lettingpeople know or trying to make
people feel like you're just100% for him, you need to be a
person that's practicing whatyou preach.
Don't be sitting there tryingto preach things to people but
(16:06):
then on the back end you'redoing all this extra stuff and
stuff like that, like you cansay you know anything.
You know to make someone feelthis kind of way, or or you know
to do, but oh, you need to.
I feel like you do better.
I'm gonna pray for you.
I'm not talking about stufflike that.
I'm talking about looking downon people and turning your nose
up at people just because ofcertain things that they do that
you're also doing.
So y'all need to get that right.
(16:26):
Y'all need to get that in checkand once I find me, somebody
that can actually see they theyon the same page as me and we
can go there on this kind ofconversation I'm gonna have to
come back with a part two withsome church women and men or
somebody from you know, andwe're going to have to have a
whole conversation about thisbecause we need to know what's
(16:46):
going on and get on thissituation.
But y'all already know what itis it's your girl.
Dj Cornbread, aka the Empresshey, hey man, this is Big Ace of
Clubs.
I'm the big man.
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