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April 26, 2025 72 mins

🎙️ A candid roundtable on tariffs, economic disruption, and the fight to preserve Jiu-Jitsu communities during hard times.

In this episode of Fighting Matters, co-hosts Steve Kwan, Jesse Walker, and Jeff Shaw take a hard look at how Trump’s tariff policies and looming economic challenges are threatening Jiu-Jitsu gyms across North America. Drawing from their experiences as gym owners, content creators, and lifelong martial artists, they explore how Jiu-Jitsu businesses can survive—and even thrive—through solidarity, long-term thinking, and real community-building.

This conversation isn’t about partisan politics. It’s about practical survival strategies for the martial arts world—and why now, more than ever, community must come first.



👥 Featuring:

Steve Kwan ‪@bjjmentalmodels‬
Jesse Walker ‪@roughhandsbjj‬
Jeff Shaw ‪@bellinghambjj‬



🧠 Topics We Cover:

• How tariffs and border restrictions threaten Jiu-Jitsu gyms
• Why wealth concentration hurts martial arts communities
• How to recession-proof your academy today
• The hidden risks of economic downturns for small businesses
• Why Jiu-Jitsu must become more than just a sport
• How generosity, community, and loyalty can save your gym
• Practical ways to support students and staff through hardship



📖 Chapters:

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and WrestleMania Discussion
05:06 Impact of Current Events on Jiu-Jitsu Businesses
09:56 Challenges Faced by Gym Owners
15:08 Community Building and Brand Loyalty
20:03 Economic Insights and Strategies for Survival
25:01 Opportunities in Crisis
30:04 Concluding Thoughts on Wealth and Responsibility
41:42 Navigating Economic Challenges in Jiu Jitsu
48:24 Building Community Through Jiu Jitsu
57:45 Long-Term Thinking in Business
01:03:19 Supporting Local Businesses Over Corporations
01:04:11 Addressing Misogyny in Jiu Jitsu



💬 Notable Quotes:

“You don’t save a gym by cutting your people.” – Jeff
“Generosity is the strongest brand you can build.” – Steve
“Investing in your community pays bigger dividends than saving pennies.” – Jesse



🎯 For Listeners Who:

• Own or manage a martial arts gym
• Want to protect their community from economic shocks
• Believe small businesses are worth fighting for
• Are looking for real-world survival strategies for martial arts
• Value leadership, loyalty, and resilience over short-term profits



💬 Your thoughts matter—join the conversation in the comments below.

🎧 Subscribe to Fighting Matters for open, honest dialogue on martial arts, community, and survival in a changing world.

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