September 9, 2025 • 44 mins
Seth & Bill crack open the vault on their ridiculous past and spill the kind of tea that stains. Welcome to the very first episode of Flirting with Friendship - where therapy is too expensive and gossip is free. The playground is officially open - Bring your juice box.
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Hosts: Seth Troxler and Bill Patrick
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Episode Transcript
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Seth (00:12):
Welcome to Foolerying with Friendship. Who? Fuck fuck you,
Bill.
Bill (00:16):
The first This is this how the show's going.
Seth (00:19):
Flirting with friendship with Bill Patrick.
Bill (00:21):
Flirting with friendship.
Seth (00:22):
No. Let's start that over. Keep your fucking
Bill (00:25):
mouth shut. Shut your mouth.
Seth (00:27):
So welcome to flirting with some truth. God, I was so
good yesterday before you gothere.
Bill (00:33):
I love it.
Seth (00:33):
I hate you. Welcome to flirting with friendship. I
can't do it now. Welcome to ourshow. I'm Seth Troxler.
(01:00):
This is
Bill (01:00):
Bill Patrick. What's the name of the show?
Seth (01:02):
What's the name of the show, Bill? You how about you
say the name of the show?Flirting with Friendship.
Flirting with Friendship.Flirting with Shemship.
Flirting with Friendship isabout interesting people having
interesting conversations, andBill and I just, being complete
weirdos with each other. We'regonna start this kind of malaise
(01:23):
into this program by talkingabout our friendship that
somehow has lasted nearly twentyyears.
Bill (01:30):
Twenty years.
Seth (01:54):
You know, the world is so hard. You know, it's good to
know one person's by your sidewhen you're at your lowest and
your best. It's easy to havefriends who are there when the
times are good. But when you'reat rock bottom and you can look
someone in the eyes and theysmile at you like that, that's
(02:15):
when you know you're like,you're gonna be there at my
funeral or maybe you'll skip it.
Bill (02:21):
It depends what's on that day.
Seth (02:22):
It's Yeah.
Bill (02:24):
If I have, like, a gig, it depends.
Seth (02:27):
But At eighty?
Bill (02:28):
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Seth (02:29):
You're still gonna be gigging at eighty, you hope? You
know, with that, like, snaggletooth?
Bill (02:34):
Zooming in on that. I know he is. Oh my gosh.
Seth (02:38):
Let's start at the beginning because I think it's
good to preface that the firstday we met, there was a series
of, I guess, interstellar cosmicof events that had brought us to
the point of meeting. Well,first, we had already had some
friends saying,
Bill (02:58):
yo, you guys gonna meet me? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, meet Bill.
Seth (03:01):
Yeah. That's great. I like him. I already don't like this
guy. I think that was thefeeling I
Bill (03:07):
don't like a forced friendship.
Seth (03:08):
A forced friendship is never nice
Bill (03:10):
It's to never good. Whether it's a friendship or a
relationship. Oh, you gotta meetthis girl. Gonna meet this Yeah.
And I
Seth (03:14):
It's already a no.
Bill (03:15):
Yeah. Already, we're off we're off to a bad start.
Seth (03:18):
So when we met, we were in Williamsburg. Back when
Williamsburg was only Jews andHispanics, mind you.
Bill (03:25):
It was shady.
Seth (03:26):
Say that because it's true.
Bill (03:27):
It was shady.
Seth (03:28):
It was shady. Yeah. It was I'm not saying neither those
people are shady, but theneighborhood was shady.
Bill (03:33):
The neighborhood was scash.
Seth (03:34):
There it was. You could die in a corner. There was a lot
of, like, you know, like, whatis it? Not CSI. What's not New
York Undercover.
Bill (03:41):
What's the
Seth (03:41):
main one?
Bill (03:42):
Law Order?
Seth (03:42):
Law and Order. SVU. That that, like, area, that pier area
was a lot of, you know, like,where they they find the body
wrapped
Bill (03:51):
in a of sacks.
Seth (03:52):
A lot of bodies in that sack in the in the in the
Hudson. Is that the Hudsonthere?
Bill (03:56):
That is the East River.
Seth (03:57):
That's the East River.
Bill (03:58):
No. Yeah. It is the East River.
Seth (03:59):
Whatever river
Bill (04:00):
it is. East River. Yeah.
Seth (04:01):
There's a lot of dead people there.
Bill (04:02):
Yeah.
Seth (04:02):
So we were outside. We finally got
Bill (04:06):
You were DJing.
Seth (04:06):
You tell the story. Did you were DJing? Tell me tell me
how it happened
Bill (04:09):
to us. Someone was what I remember, you gotta meet Seth.
You gotta meet Seth Having thismoment, Seth mid mix introduced
and then proceeds. Hi. Hey,Bill.
Seth. Hey. Nice to meet you.Nice to meet you. And then all I
remember is you turned aroundand proceeded to just throw up
(04:29):
in the bushes.
Seth (04:30):
I had I mean, I have
Bill (04:32):
You had back then.
Seth (04:33):
Oh, my my my regurge? Yeah. I could walk and throw up.
Bill (04:36):
Yeah. You did. I remember when we
Seth (04:37):
Many went times. It's it's a little
Bill (04:39):
Yeah. A lot of that.
Seth (04:41):
You know, I've partied so much. Even then, I don't have an
esophagus. I found that outrecently. It's it's gone. It's
burned away.
The flap doesn't exist. Yeah. Iknow. That's what the doctor
told me.
Bill (04:51):
Way to go.
Seth (04:52):
And they said if I you know, they said if I don't stop
with the acid, I I wanna get thebig c.
Bill (04:56):
Yeah. Well You and me both. That's yeah. We could talk
about that. But We
Seth (05:01):
could talk about that later. Back to the story. I
throw up. Throw up. We gooutside for a little casual
stroll.
Right? I'm like, maybe I'mcoming up. I just need to go get
someone get some air for aminute. Mhmm. Go outside.
We're like, got our blueblockers on. I'm like, glasses.
I also like those. Hyperreality. We had a little moment.
Deep v.
Bill (05:21):
Deep v.
Seth (05:22):
It was the deep v days.
Bill (05:23):
Even a This is like, what? O '5? O '5.
Seth (05:27):
O '5.
Bill (05:28):
Yeah. Yeah. So it's twenty years. It is twenty years.
Seth (05:30):
Twenty years today. Yeah. Still looking at your beautiful
what color are your eyes? Green?They're gonna have a greenish
Bill (05:35):
I can't believe you're asking me that after twenty
years. It's like my one greatfeature.
Seth (05:42):
Green.
Bill (05:42):
Green, hazel.
Seth (05:43):
Shit. I love that I'm across from you, and I can't
really look. I'm like, whatcolor are your eye?
Bill (05:51):
Yeah. We had a moment outside. We we we we got to
meet. We got to finally, like,talk one on one. It may have
been someone else with us.
Seth (05:59):
I think crazy Shauna was there too.
Bill (06:02):
I think she's the one who introduced who
Seth (06:03):
was She did introduce us.
Bill (06:05):
I didn't wanna give her credit.
Seth (06:06):
Yeah. She did something she did some good things. Yeah.
We have a friend who.
Bill (06:12):
Ex girlfriend.
Seth (06:16):
Anyway, as we start to walk back, I remember this pig's
head. Did it fall off of atruck, or was it just I
Bill (06:23):
think we concocted it must fallen off a truck. Was off the
truck. But there was no truckinside.
Seth (06:27):
Yeah. There's decapitated pig's head that just appeared in
front of our feet, and we'relike and I had on these American
flag sliders, I remember. Andthen we looked down, and we
looked at each other. And then Ithink at that point, we knew
this this love was bound.
Bill (06:46):
This is an omen.
Seth (06:47):
This is an omen.
Bill (06:48):
Yes.
Seth (06:48):
This is a deep omen from some dark place.
Bill (06:53):
Yes. And we just have to we have to just decide. What
it's gonna be. Yeah. I took itas a sign as well.
Seth (06:58):
Yeah. A sign of a great friendship. Yeah.
Bill (07:00):
For better or worse. I was like, alright. This is what it's
gonna be.
Seth (07:03):
We took the pig's head and signed.
Bill (07:04):
We did. I think we put it on the DJ booth.
Seth (07:06):
We put it on the DJ booth. And now twenty years later,
we've got a we've got a TV showtogether. This is our podcast,
Elevated Podcast. I'm SethTroxler.
Bill (07:20):
And I'm Bill Patrick.
Seth (07:21):
And this is Pillow Talk. We're two assholes in a bed
telling you what to do with yourlife. If you've ever been low or
down and ever wanted yourexpectations lifted up about a
current situation or dilemmathat you're facing, please call
the number below.
Bill (07:36):
We'll take anything. Friend advice you need, lover
advice, anime advice. If youneed to hide a body, we're your
guys.
Seth (07:45):
Friend or foe, it's all here just for you. Call now.
Hill o talk.
Bill (07:50):
Hill o talk. Hill o talk.
Seth (07:55):
So, yeah, that was the beginning.
Bill (07:58):
It was the beginning. We we crossed oceans together.
Yeah. We lived in Berlin.
Seth (08:04):
We lived in Berlin.
Bill (08:05):
Sex is nice ish. Sex and nice ish. An absolute squat. We
know. Trap house.
Seth (08:11):
Oh, wow. This is this is early two thousands. No
Americans are in Berlin.
Bill (08:15):
Not many.
Seth (08:16):
There's 15 of us and a lot of Canadians.
Bill (08:19):
A lot of Canadians.
Seth (08:20):
A lot of Canadians. Canadians were the first guys.
You know? Yes. We were allsquatting.
Bill (08:24):
No. I never squatted.
Seth (08:25):
You never squatted.
Bill (08:26):
I came for a summer.
Seth (08:27):
You came directly into a house? Yes. You were too good
for you were a bit older. Youwere too good for to sleep on
the floor.
Bill (08:32):
I live with Oh,
Seth (08:35):
oh my god. I think this is a side quest story. One of the
greatest pranks I've ever pulledin my life. I'm looking at you
right now.
Bill (08:48):
So Bill had a roommate. What? We're gonna tell this?
Seth (08:51):
We're gonna tell the stories because that's why we're
here, and I don't give a fuck.
Bill (08:54):
Yeah.
Seth (08:55):
It's been nearly twenty years. Oh. Oh. Hello. Hello.
And also, he's a dick.
Bill (09:00):
He fell off.
Seth (09:01):
He fell off.
Bill (09:01):
Something happened.
Seth (09:02):
I I am pretty sure he voted for Trump twice. I could
get I can guarantee you that.
Bill (09:07):
If I was a betting man.
Seth (09:08):
If I was a I've never gambled in my life, but if I
were to, I can say he doesn'tlike black people. Bill had this
Bill (09:22):
Defamation lawsuit ain't coming.
Seth (09:24):
Bill had this roommate, and we were friends. We were all
great friends. We were allcoming up together. Mhmm. Also
part of the blue blocker armywas this whole situation.
Then, at some point, when we allmoved, he just started to become
a really petty friend. Like andwe couldn't understand it. Great
chef. Anytime we would havepotluck dinners, what did he do?
(09:48):
Bring wine.
Bill (09:48):
I remember the tipping point was Thanksgiving. We asked
him to make a green beancasserole. Like, now's your
chance. You're this incrediblechef. We're having a nice
Thanksgiving, all the Americans,and he brought wine, and I I
think mashed potatoes.
I think, if that and I may bebeing generous.
Seth (10:10):
I think you're being generous.
Bill (10:11):
Yeah. I think
Seth (10:12):
he just brought wine. And he would always do this thing
where we'd all be in the house,and he would make these
elaborate meals. Duck with complike, crazy stuff for one.
Bill (10:25):
I was super hobo back then. I had I no was eating
ramen, and he's making fuckingMichelin starved dinners for
himself.
Seth (10:32):
Who's got the careers now?
Bill (10:33):
Yeah. Yes.
Seth (10:34):
Right? We're, like, living off of those Hooner house
chickens.
Bill (10:37):
Yes.
Seth (10:37):
Right? Fishing out coins from the thing. This guy's
making duck confi. What a dick.To cook for one, to cook a three
star meal for one person, whenyou got your two friends sitting
in the other room, it's like,this that's a real malicious
friendship.
There was a lot of alreadymicroaggressions leading up to
the to the toilet paperincident.
Bill (10:59):
The toilet paper incident. He was leaving for a US tour,
and I was leaving for two daysto do some gigs of my own. And I
noticed that there was, like,very little toilet paper left in
the in the bathroom.
Seth (11:16):
Enough enough for a couple
Bill (11:18):
Enough for maybe one or two more uses, and I knew he was
leaving in three days. I thoughtto myself, there's no way this
is gonna last three days. I knowwe're gonna run out of toilet
paper. When I get back I made anote. When I get back on fucking
Friday, Friday, if there's notoilet paper here, I'm gonna I'm
gonna fucking kill this guy.
(11:39):
So sure enough, I get back frommy couple of gigs. I get back on
a Friday, and I'm like, I gostraight to beeline to the
bathroom.
Seth (11:48):
This is this is is a point. This is a point right
here.
Bill (11:51):
And I look and there's no toilet paper. No toilet paper.
And I'm thinking to myself, thismotherfucker, he refused to to
refill the toilet paper for me.He's going away for a month and
he's thinking to myself, I'm notyou know what?
Seth (12:05):
Let him He thought fuck this guy.
Bill (12:07):
Exactly. But also, how crazy am I to notice this also
and be like
Seth (12:12):
I mean, we already established we're both we're all
on the spectrum. Right?
Bill (12:15):
So I'm like, if I was an asshole, where would I hide a
stock a large stock of toiletpaper? I you know, if I was an
asshole, I'd probably have,like, a back stock, like, a a
Costco size amount of toiletpaper hidden somewhere for
myself. Sure enough, right tothe room, I'm like, let me check
(12:36):
the bottom drawer of hisdresser. Boom. 30 rolls of
toilet paper.
Paper towels.
Seth (12:44):
Whole stock.
Bill (12:45):
He had a fucking Costco store. He had it was
Seth (12:49):
motherfucking. We were like, I and I I show up because
I we used to have a thing. I'dcome over. We'd make breakfast,
watch Seinfeld, take naps inbed. Yes.
Bill's the only guy that I I napwith. You know, we we sleep
together in a non You gay know?Not not not if there's anything
wrong if you you know?
Bill (13:04):
No. No. No.
Seth (13:05):
In the other way too. But, like, yeah, we just, like, you
know, have a little, like, youknow, little pillow talk.
Bill (13:09):
Of course.
Seth (13:10):
We're pillow talk tings. As you can see, there's a
dynamic here. So I'm like, thismotherfucker's gotta go down.
Bill (13:16):
I called Seth immediately. I was like, get over here right
now.
Seth (13:18):
And I was like, this aggression will not stand. So
what I did Wow. He was away for,a month. Mhmm. And just at the
time were raving a lot.
A lot. So I took all of thismotherfucker's underwear. I
would wear them.
Bill (13:31):
No. There was one.
Seth (13:32):
It was just one pair.
Bill (13:33):
It had tiny little cars on it.
Seth (13:34):
Yeah. Okay. It was one pair. Yeah. I went out raving.
We went out for like four days.
Bill (13:38):
Berkine.
Seth (13:39):
Berkine. Bar twenty five. All of my junk was I mean, I'm a
stinky guy. If anyone's met me,they know they know my body odor
care lack of care for you know,I'm like, I I think it's a
pheromone thing, whatever. Ittracks.
Disgusting. See, it's I'mdisgusting. And so I wear this
guy's underwear the wholeweekend and fold them back
(14:03):
perfectly
Bill (14:04):
Into the drawer.
Seth (14:05):
Into the drawer, put them in his drawer. I was like, I'm
like, you wanna go low? I'll goballs deep. You know? How did he
find out?
Because I I remember at somepoint he found out.
Bill (14:22):
Was wearing he came back. He always He he
Seth (14:24):
wore them.
Bill (14:25):
I think you told him.
Seth (14:26):
I I think I did. I'm I'm a guy who will teabag you and then
tell you to your face.
Bill (14:29):
Yeah. Yeah.
Seth (14:30):
Yeah. I have done that many of times.
Bill (14:31):
But I think he told I think at some point he pissed
you off, and you're like, youknow what, dick? Actually, that
underwear that you're probablywearing right now, I raved,
like, five days in it. Fivedays. And I put it back.
Seth (14:42):
And we know about the toilet paper.
Bill (14:43):
And we know everything. Yeah. He moved out quickly after
that. Oh, yeah. And his
Seth (14:48):
career has never recovered.
Bill (14:50):
I mean, I think he had some I think he went through
some personal health issues, butno excuse for being a dick to
your friends. No. No. No. No.
No. No. No.
Seth (15:00):
So, Bill, let me get my interview on because I know a
lot about your life, but maybe alot of people don't know so much
about Sure they don't. The earlyBill Patrick. Because you've
been DJing forever. You startedyour career in New York as DJ
Holy Roller.
Bill (15:14):
Oh my god. You remember that.
Seth (15:16):
I know. I know everything about you, Bill. Right there.
His first tattoo
Bill (15:20):
Your first tattoo.
Seth (15:21):
God. Because nobody called himself Holy Roller
Bill (15:23):
Oh my god.
Seth (15:24):
Because he was into God, and he loved taking pills.
That's my friend.
Bill (15:28):
That makes sense.
Seth (15:29):
That's that's Bill Patrick. It makes I was DJ Ohm
because I went to India, and Ithought it was cool. It was just
a symbol. My parents were intoPrince.
Bill (15:38):
Just a sign. Prince style.
Seth (15:39):
It was Prince style.
Bill (15:40):
Really?
Seth (15:41):
I was that cocky from day one.
Bill (15:43):
Was this before Prince when
Seth (15:44):
This is Prince was already a symbol.
Bill (15:46):
Oh, it was a symbol.
Seth (15:47):
Okay. Yeah. So you started in New York. You had this Bill
used to be so famous. I rememberthere were so many
Bill (15:52):
Not so very generous word. You were.
Seth (15:55):
Where? In New York and Romania. Remember? Romania. I
remember coming to Romania thefirst time you and Lee Burge had
brought me, and there was allthese billboards everywhere.
Bill Pat like, in Ibiza with me,but it was Bill. Bill Pat, and I
was
Bill (16:11):
like with sun waves. There was no billboards separate.
There was Maybe there was one
Seth (16:16):
He's playing
Bill (16:16):
party thing.
Seth (16:17):
Let yourself be let me let me
Bill (16:18):
Go on. Go Go on.
Seth (16:19):
Go Get me embellish in the story.
Bill (16:20):
Comfortable with it, but go.
Seth (16:22):
So there's this all these signs and stuff. And I remember
when I was coming up and we werejust these young kids, Bill had
this really big party in NewYork. Robots. He was bringing
all these great DJs. You wannatell us a little bit about your
your early career being a DJ,Bill?
Bill (16:36):
Yeah. Robots came after my residency at Arc, which was
vinyl back in the day whereDanny Tenaglia, Body and Soul,
Danny Crivet, Joe Clozell,
Seth (16:47):
friends of New York DJ. We get it.
Bill (16:50):
Do they do people do the children know
Seth (16:52):
who these DJs? Children know who knows those working the
old DJs are.
Bill (16:55):
Working the door at Vinyl back then? Who? Miss Honey.
That's how I met Honey, Dijon,back then.
Seth (17:02):
That Miss Honey, not Miss Honey, not miss miss Honey.
Bill (17:05):
Well, Honey Dijon used to be go as miss Honey. Oh, really?
Miss Honey. Yeah. And then shebecame Honey Dijon, but, like,
she was working the door forDanny.
Seth (17:14):
Was she as cold blooded then as she is now or maybe
more?
Bill (17:18):
She was she was tough.
Seth (17:19):
Tough cut cut.
Bill (17:20):
She was always sweet to me. I don't know why.
Seth (17:22):
She's always sweet to me too.
Bill (17:23):
And still to this day. The sweetest. She's always every
time I see
Seth (17:27):
her mother.
Bill (17:28):
Yes. And so I became resident of this club, and Nick
AC was the manager one of themanagers of the club. We decided
at the time, there was a a bitof a a void in New York, like
Seth (17:40):
For, like, European stuff. Right?
Bill (17:42):
Yeah. But, also, like, it was a Giuliani era. Clubs were
shutting down. There was no kindof it was kind of an end of an
era. Twilight had shut down andand Tunnel and Sound Factory and
now Vinyl.
We thought it would be cool towe were playing, like, like,
German techno minimal stuff Yes.With Cardierville Lobos. Yeah.
(18:03):
Yeah. Yeah.
And we kinda built a bit of afollowing, we decided to start
our own party, call it robots.And that party was started off
weekly at this place called Cafede Ville downstairs, and then we
took it to Cielo monthly. Andthat's when we took took it to
Cielo, we were able to startbringing in, like, Sven Bot,
(18:24):
Luciano, Trent Moeller, but alsoin this also booking, like,
Derek Faseko, Adam X, techno Hehas a mix. Like, local techno
heads and international artists.And that really kind of took
off.
Seth (18:42):
That's I mean, you were one of the first Americans to
play DC ten. You and Andrew.Right?
Bill (18:47):
Andrew Grant. Yeah. Back in
Seth (18:48):
the You guys were coming over here.
Bill (18:50):
02/2004.
Seth (18:51):
02/2005.
Bill (18:52):
That was, like, when DC ten opened Circle Logo opened at
6AM on Monday right after spaceon Completely crackers.
Crackers. But people would justflock to DC ten, 6AM, and it was
the after hours.
Seth (19:07):
Yeah. That was the thing. Because after hours for we love
space. Right?
Bill (19:09):
Yeah. Yeah. And it would close, I think, at five in the
afternoon or it's maybe a littlebit later. But I played in,
like, two thousand four, twothousand five, The Terrorists at
the time. Incredible.
Just really good memories. Butthat was how my career kinda
started. I I and I rememberdistinctly, very vividly coming
(19:32):
over here and playing atUnderground and Sven Voth coming
to see me and taking me asideafter my set and said to me, if
you wanna take your career tothe next step, you have to move
to Europe. New York, America
Seth (19:49):
It seems like he was wrong. I'm like I'm like,
thanks, man.
Bill (19:56):
Thanks the terrible But, no. He was like and it was true.
He was like, in America, youcould only go back then,
especially
Seth (20:04):
Oh, a 100%.
Bill (20:05):
There was a ceiling. You could only go so far, and we had
reached it, and it was time.
Seth (20:09):
There was a couple small crews around America. There was
a San Francisco crew back then.Remember, there was
Bill (20:16):
Orlando. Orlando and Tampa gang.
Seth (20:18):
Yeah. That was, like, a big thing. Yeah. There was
Drew's punk ass in in SaintLouis.
Bill (20:24):
Boston had a little Yeah.
Seth (20:26):
Boston with Charlie and everybody. But it's, like, these
little small groups of people,and then we kinda all started to
come over to Europe, do ourthing. But we were the ragtag
Americans. Yeah. I'm this is myclick impersonation.
We were the Americans in thehouse.
Bill (20:42):
We were not welcomed. I remember feeling a lot of anti
American sentiment. Like
Seth (20:47):
I remember when we we came during that time, a German came
up to me. He's like, I havesomething for you. You can never
you can never bet on Americanstupidity because you can count
on it. Yeah. And look at wherewe are now.
That joke has stood the test oftime for twenty years because
Americans
Bill (21:06):
Going over to a new country, especially Germany,
such a, like,
Seth (21:10):
push I have first. Right?
Bill (21:11):
Yeah. You went in 2000
Seth (21:12):
We and had that was 02/2006, I think, I left. Yeah.
Look at this. Look at thesepictures of us. Look.
We are so young.
Bill (21:19):
Who's that?
Seth (21:20):
That was me, asshole. That was?
Bill (21:22):
Yeah. Wow. You
Seth (21:24):
look better. I did I
Bill (21:26):
did me and my manicured, the the blue blockers. The
manicured beard.
Seth (21:34):
So much fragility. So much
Bill (21:36):
Look at that. So little so few tattoos as well. I know. I
wish I you know, I if I couldgive any advice about tattoos,
don't get them until you're inyour mid thirties. There's a lot
of stupid shit you're into whenyou're your twenties.
Most of
Seth (21:50):
your bad tattoos happen after your mid thirties.
Bill (21:52):
No. No. Most of them are. Most of
Seth (21:54):
I'm like I'm like I'm like Bill.
Bill (21:56):
Actually, you could be right about a couple of them.
But for the most Stop part of my
Seth (22:01):
in your mid thirties is what I say.
Bill (22:02):
Yes. A lot of mistakes. But
Seth (22:07):
Oh, a lot of mistakes in life, but we're still here.
We're still smiling. You almostdied when we made a book. We
did.
Bill (22:13):
You know what? I actually felt really good seeing that
this daddy wellness guy alsowent to the hospital after
touring with you.
Seth (22:20):
Yeah. I I sent both of them to the hospital. Yeah. No
one can can be with me.
Bill (22:25):
In general?
Seth (22:26):
My wife's doing a good job. Yeah. Yeah. She's she
tolerates me somehow. I don't Idon't know.
I think it's the kids
Bill (22:35):
That helps.
Seth (22:35):
Being more annoying than me. But
Bill (22:39):
but it's not easy to be on tour with you in general. I
mean, for me, from a, like, afriend standpoint friend's
standpoint, it's easy. Easy.
Seth (22:46):
But the amount of time
Bill (22:50):
Yeah. But just the intensity of it. Seeing that two
other people went to thehospital made me feel so good.
Seth (22:56):
But you got cancer.
Bill (22:58):
Yeah. But not from the tour. No.
Seth (23:00):
You're not gonna give me credit for that?
Bill (23:02):
You're not getting credit for that. That is no way.
Seth (23:05):
How? Did I get Bill cancer? It says, yes, you may
rely on it. Fuck.
Bill (23:13):
That's right there. Last thing. He's already got a god
conflict.
Seth (23:16):
If there's any truth in me almost killing my best friend,
it's from the Magic eight Ball.
Bill (23:22):
Thank you. He has a it's not a god complex. It was a
Jesus complex. Right?
Seth (23:25):
I had a Jesus complex because Jesus and I supposedly
had the same birthday.
Bill (23:30):
Mhmm.
Seth (23:30):
Like, in the Bible, if you follow the clues. Right? I do my
own research. I'm a thinkingperson. But there is a theory
online that Jesus' real birthdayis September 29.
And also if you look at, like
Bill (23:46):
Yes.
Seth (23:46):
The kinda Yes. '9 like, basically, my parents fucked on
New Year's, and now I was bornexactly nine months and three
weeks later. Mhmm. Or September29, September. That's what
happens if you're, you know, ifyou like to look at the moon
site, whatever, the cycles oflife.
Sure. You know? But Jesus issupposed so I had this, like,
Jesus complex, but then when Iturned what is it? How old was
(24:07):
he when he died when they killedhim?
Bill (24:08):
33. 33. 33. If he even existed.
Seth (24:11):
No. When I turned 27 and 33, I realized I wasn't that
special.
Bill (24:15):
You were hoping to die at 27. Why are
Seth (24:17):
I was really on track to have a to go out high because I
was number one DJ at 24. I wasliving the high life. I was
like, guys, I could be in the 27club. And I I hit the presses.
Bill (24:31):
On on like, lower tier of celebrity.
Seth (24:36):
I mean, I'm I'm I'm list famous anyway.
Bill (24:38):
Yeah. You're not Kirchleveen, Amy Winehouse.
Seth (24:41):
If it would've happened, I would've went into techno, you
know, like, got it. Imagine,Joe, if I would've died at 27 at
that point, god. God. I therewould be fucking statues.
Bill (24:55):
That's debatable. The There would not be statues, but
I'll I want you to believe that.Would make a little, like, Play
Doh Oh, yeah? Statue for you.Yeah.
Of you. It would
Seth (25:11):
come it would come in Plato at this point.
Bill (25:14):
But you made it past 27.
Seth (25:15):
I made it. Then I made it to 33, and I was like, maybe I'm
geniuses reincarnated, and thenthen I didn't die at 33. So just
a normal person.
Bill (25:24):
Yeah. Reaching 40 and finally realizing.
Seth (25:27):
40 this year. I mean, some of the best times we ever had
were at my birthday parties.
Bill (25:32):
These were iconic parties. Internationally known, widely
accepted to be some of the bestparties that
Seth (25:38):
We used to have these crazy parties at Pike's.
Bill (25:41):
We came up as DJs in the golden age of DJing.
Seth (25:44):
Oh, well, the golden age of nightlife.
Bill (25:46):
Yeah. Nightlife. Yeah. Really.
Seth (25:47):
Everyone wants to look cool, have their designer stuff
on. Being in nightlife beforewas like you know, everyone
talks about safe space.Nightlife was the safe space.
Bill (25:58):
You didn't even have you didn't have to say it?
Seth (26:00):
Have to say it because everyone went out because
they're like, god. I have to getaway from all these other
people.
Bill (26:05):
Completely.
Seth (26:06):
So that's why I'm going out to this place
Bill (26:09):
Yes.
Seth (26:09):
Is to be with other people who are like, I don't give a
fuck about anything. Yeah. Ijust wanna enjoy my life, have a
good time, talk some totallycracker shit with some
strangers.
Bill (26:23):
And dance. And dance.
Seth (26:25):
Yeah. I wanna dance with men all night with my top off.
Bill (26:28):
Yeah. I mean, well, to put it pretty simply was dance music
and club culture was acounterculture.
Seth (26:35):
It it was counterculture.
Bill (26:36):
It's not a counterculture anymore. No. It's mainstream.
It's mainstream culture.Mainstream.
A lot
Seth (26:41):
too many bros. There needs to be more gatekeeping, or
normal people need to level upand fucking turn up the weird.
Bill (26:48):
People are afraid to turn up the weird.
Seth (26:49):
People, why are you so fucking afraid to turn up the
weird? We're what? I thinkthirty seconds to midnight on
the doomsday clock. I think it'sliterally thirty seconds.
Bill (26:58):
I think
Seth (26:58):
it's not even three minutes.
Bill (27:00):
Less than that. Yeah. Is that twenty eight or something?
Seth (27:02):
Yeah. Yeah. Twenty eight seconds to the end of the
fucking world. I don't give afuck anymore. Yeah.
I everyone should just bethemselves. My son said that to
me the other day. It was themost profound thing. He's like,
you know, daddy? You can just beyourself.
We can just be ourselves. It'sso great when you're be I was
like, you are you might beJesus, actually.
Bill (27:22):
What a
Seth (27:22):
little golden with your little golden curls. Oh, Jesus.
Put that
Bill (27:26):
type of pressure on.
Seth (27:27):
He's so beautiful.
Bill (27:28):
He is he is cute.
Seth (27:29):
You're the godparent to my daughter. Yeah.
Bill (27:32):
I know. Yeah. Very honored Yeah. For that. But I would like
to say that the PC shit, we werenever we never subscribed to
that.
Seth (27:42):
All the people back then, there was no PC between queer
culture, between everyone justthrew shade at everybody.
Bill (27:49):
I mean, shade came from
Seth (27:51):
Shade shade is a queer thing. Yeah. 100%.
Bill (27:53):
100%. All of my shade, all of my, like
Seth (27:56):
100%.
Bill (27:57):
Everything I learned from Queer culture. Queer culture in
New York.
Seth (28:01):
I learned so much about life in Berlin being wild.
Bill (28:06):
Bergheim for Oh. Twenty hours.
Seth (28:08):
Oh, when you used to be able to go to Berghein and watch
a guy get you know what? A guywho used to sit at the end of
the trough and you could piss inhis mouth? I never
Bill (28:14):
piss in his mouth. I never I I But it was
Seth (28:16):
you saw it.
Bill (28:17):
You know? Was Of course. It was disgusting.
Seth (28:19):
Bill has a thing against disgusting things. If right now
I started bleeding, he wouldthrow up.
Bill (28:23):
No. No. No. The blood that's a normal Bill. No.
That's not talking about blood.I won't throw up. I'll faint.
And we don't want that.
Seth (28:31):
I would love for you to faint on camera. No.
Bill (28:33):
It's not.
Seth (28:34):
I only want the worst for you.
Bill (28:37):
I appreciate it. No. I want the best for you. The blood
thing, depending where it'scoming from, it's just, you
know, like, I get blood drawnnow because of my Yeah. Because
you of The
Seth (28:47):
big c.
Bill (28:48):
The cancer. And it's always it's just a psychological
thing.
Seth (28:52):
If you all should just say, but
Bill (28:54):
it's the needle going in the vein and pulling it. It's a
whole psychological mind fuckthat I I will pass out if I
don't take a quarter Xanaxbefore I go.
Seth (29:04):
I think you have an anxious, you have anxiety.
Bill (29:06):
Yeah. No shit. This is like you're realizing this now
after twenty years?
Seth (29:10):
No. No. I realized it after twenty minutes. Yeah. I
was like, my guy.
Bill (29:16):
A little. There's lots of things to be anxious about.
Seth (29:19):
I don't get anxious about anything because I am very
aloof. My wife told me today,she's like, I don't think I've
ever met someone so scat in mylife. Yeah. Because I I left my
keys upstairs, then I came down,and then I left something else.
She's like, how, every day, howis it how do you live like this?
And I'm like, what do you mean?And and you, like, that's maybe
(29:39):
why I married her because youguys are similar Really?
Bill (29:45):
Same anxieties. Interesting.
Seth (29:47):
Yeah. Could say a lot about our relationship.
Bill (29:49):
Yeah. Yeah. Could've married me. Yeah.
Seth (29:53):
Nah. I think we did kinda agree on
Bill (29:58):
Move on.
Seth (29:59):
Hetero life partners.
Bill (30:00):
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I've had that agreement with Of many
people? Girls.
Oh, okay. If we don't getmarried you know, you did a
whole thing at
Seth (30:06):
some point. But is it really
Bill (30:07):
It's never. It's just make yourself feel yeah.
Seth (30:10):
Make it make yourself feel better for the fact that you
guys will never sleep together?
Bill (30:13):
Yes. You're always being in the friend zone. Yeah. 100%
that's what that is.
Seth (30:17):
Let's clarify how deep this friend zone goes.
Bill (30:19):
This friend zone goes, Radiv, that in thirty years
Seth (30:22):
In thirty years, we can get married as friends. Yes. And
maybe there's still a chance.
Bill (30:27):
That's all I wanted and needed.
Seth (30:29):
But now you're like a stepdad. We're both fathers now.
Bill (30:31):
I know. It's great.
Seth (30:32):
Can you believe it?
Bill (30:32):
I love it. I love being an influence. How as scary as that
is on, like, a younger youth, achild, and teaching them.
Seth (30:41):
And you've seen the growth.
Bill (30:42):
The nine year old is listening to Frank Ocean and Ski
Mask. Like, you can't that's,like, great. Nine years old?
Seth (30:50):
That's an advanced nine
Bill (30:51):
year old. Yes. Exactly. So, no, it's great. I love
bringing all my wild andinteresting takes on life and
music and teaching them.
You're like Cosmo. You'retelling me today how confident
he is just walking up to kids,being like,
Seth (31:08):
he He was is a very confident, very confident little
boy.
Bill (31:13):
Yeah.
Seth (31:13):
It's pretty So that's
Bill (31:15):
that's you to a t. And someone asked me recently, I did
an interview for the Times UK,and they asked me about, you
know, how did you know at anypoint if Seth was gonna turn
into as successful as he was?And I said, as a matter of fact,
he, like, predicted it. He knewI remember in Berlin, you were
(31:37):
like, in five years, I'm gonnabe up here. So I'm gonna release
this record on Ghostly, and thenI'm gonna do this, and then I'm
gonna win the DJ poll.
I'm gonna first get on the DJpoll, and then I'm gonna go
climb up, then I'll get numberone. And I was like, he predict
He You guys all
Seth (31:50):
thought I was crazy.
Bill (31:52):
Crazy, but I just was like, I just wanna play some
music. I don't wanna I wasn'tlooking at it as a career like
you were.
Seth (32:00):
I was looking at it as my dreams. Yes. Right? And it's
kind of a funny thing is youmake these dreams when you're
young and few people pursuethem. Right?
But you come up with thisreally, really detailed dream.
And when you go fully for it andthen achieve that dream and sub
(32:20):
dreams, at some point you forgetto make new dreams. This is
where I'm at now. Right? AndHerman, our buddy, my my one of
my other best friends, herecently called me out.
He's like, Seth, what's yourdream now? And I was saying I
wanna figure out some things,and, you know, I was like, I
wanted to be a dad, kind of, butit wasn't any other big dream.
(32:43):
Now the big dream, I'm gonna gofor it again.
Bill (32:46):
What do you mean?
Seth (32:47):
I'm gonna I'm gonna be I'm gonna go for, like, turbo turbo
success.
Bill (32:51):
Like DJ or outside of at life. Life. Success at life.
Seth (32:55):
Life success. Yeah. I'm gonna go for it. Because I got,
like, complacent, you know,smoking a lot of joints Well,
you got your hands dirty. Out.
I was like, what do I need toprove to anyone? Now I got kids.
I'm like, I got something toprove to my kids.
Bill (33:10):
Yeah. Your legacy for your kids. What
Seth (33:15):
else should we share with the people? I mean, we've got a
lot more to share. We've got alot of episodes. I've done
enough. Yeah.
Bill (33:19):
But just as this
Seth (33:20):
is the entry episode of flirting with friendship,
friendship as what Mashay usedto say, friendship is friends.
Bill (33:28):
Friends. Remember that song we were gonna do we wanted
to make a Friends.
Seth (33:33):
Friends. Friends. Friends.
Bill (33:36):
Yep. Friends.
Seth (33:37):
I love that you're my friend, Bill.
Bill (33:39):
I appreciate that. I I love having you as a constant in
my life.
Seth (33:44):
Oh, I love you so much. I love you too.
Bill (33:47):
I'm glad we're doing this. Yeah. Some of these guests that
we're having, I have no idea whothey are.
Seth (33:52):
We've got George Tavros coming in.
Bill (33:54):
Excited. George is the sound guy, extraordinaire.
Seth (33:58):
Extraordinaire. We've got Roshan Murphy.
Bill (34:01):
I know her as Royston Murphy.
Seth (34:03):
Royston, I think we're gonna have well, that's gonna be
a discussion. How do youactually say your name? We could
start with that just so she'sshe's frustrated with the
interview.
Bill (34:10):
Yes. And I will call her by the wrong name for the whole
interview.
Seth (34:14):
Okay. Yeah. You know, she deserves that. She deserves
better than both She of
Bill (34:18):
does deserve it. Like, why are you here?
Seth (34:19):
Why? She's like, why did I even come here? Yes. I think
that's gonna be pretty
Bill (34:23):
Are you here against your will?
Seth (34:24):
Yes. Yeah. We kidnapped her. Actually, she's she's in
the closet. But I think we cango to the point that actually
we're just really good peoplewho are honest about the fact
that sometimes being a goodperson involves being a piece of
shit.
Bill (34:41):
I'm just understanding that there is moments where you
are a piece of shit, and thisjust happens.
Seth (34:47):
Sometimes you sometimes you eat a whole tub of ice
cream. That's okay.
Bill (34:50):
I mean, that's pretty
Seth (34:51):
you shit your pants. That's okay. Is it? I don't
think anyone's ever shit theirpants quite like Bill Patrick's.
Can can we actually finish thisepisode?
Bill (35:03):
With my story?
Seth (35:04):
With your story?
Bill (35:05):
No. This is this We gotta save that for season two? Save
this one.
Seth (35:08):
Come on. Let's just lead in. We're we're here. It's now
Bill (35:11):
We could save it for, like, also five minutes left.
I'll try and tell this.
Seth (35:15):
So one Bill was once famous.
Bill (35:17):
Okay. So back in early Back
Seth (35:19):
in the early two thousand.
Bill (35:20):
Was playing in Argentina a lot. And one New Year's Eve, I
was playing in the city ofRosario, and it was fucking hot.
What? Hot summer? Yeah.
And there was this beautifulgirl in the crowd. Just, like,
beautiful brown skin, brownhair, just super sexy. I was
watching her the whole time Iwas playing.
Seth (35:38):
Snaggle 2,000.
Bill (35:39):
Little, like, little stupid little smirks thinking
I'm like the shit. I'm, youknow, I'm the headlining DJ at
New Year's.
Seth (35:45):
Does the the the shirt puff?
Bill (35:47):
So after the gig, I'm like, let me let me go talk to
my fans.
Seth (35:53):
Like, let me talk my minions.
Bill (35:55):
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I'm like And then waiting for me.
Yeah.
So she's there, and
Seth (35:58):
I see her.
Bill (35:59):
She was waiting. She was waiting. And so she's like, oh,
congratulations. You played sowell. This and that.
Thank you. Thank you. I waslike, would you like to come to
the after hours? I could you usea translator? I don't speak
Spanish, and I would love if youcan come and we can hang out.
And she's like, yeah. We'd lovethat. So we go to the after
hours. Oh my god. This is sovivid.
(36:22):
We go to the after hours and Iproceed to just push it. Yeah.
Everything.
Seth (36:29):
Copious amounts of everything. Everything.
Bill (36:31):
And it's hot. It's like Garbage
Seth (36:34):
garbage fan.
Bill (36:35):
It was it was Garbage
Seth (36:36):
fire hot.
Bill (36:36):
It was disgustingly hot. So I'm at this after hours, and
at some point, she's like, Ihave to go home
Seth (36:42):
Uh-huh.
Bill (36:42):
But I would love if we had dinner tomorrow, you came to my
house You're best part. And haddinner with me. And I was like,
yeah. Of course. I would lovethis.
This is for sure. Count me in.So me, an absolute fucking
delinquent, decided notthinking. Next thing I know, I I
continued after partying untilit was time to go to dinner the
(37:05):
next night where I was like, ohmy god. I oh my god.
I haven't slept.
Seth (37:10):
I haven't showered. I have to go directly to her house.
Swagger. Full swag.
Bill (37:15):
I I rock up to the house, and her mother and Right? It's
her mom, her dad, her twosisters, her brother, and her
grandmother. And I'm sweating,drugged out, like, complete,
absolute like, who's thisfucking gringo? Who's that
(37:37):
outdoor? And I'm like, hi.
I'm here for dinner forAlejandra. Like, I'm Bill. Like,
absolutely zuded out. Andthey're like, yeah. Yeah.
Come in. Come in. So I walk in.There's a table, all this, like,
Argentinian meat, salad. I'm notfucking hungry at all.
(37:57):
Obviously. I'm can't eat afucking thing right now.
Seth (37:59):
No. No way.
Bill (38:00):
I got nobody in the family also spoke English.
Seth (38:03):
So Lots of nodding.
Bill (38:05):
Lots of just, like yeah. Again, so hot. No AC. No AC.
Just little fans.
Little tiny fans. Just like
Seth (38:14):
Little third little little third little fans.
Bill (38:16):
Here you go. He's sweating now, you fucking third leg.
Here's a little here you go.Cool off. Right?
And I just proceed to have apanic attack because I am in a
very uncomfortable position. Andthe next thing I know, I wake up
in another room. And I'm on achair in a empty room I come to,
(38:42):
and it's the whole family. Bill.Bill.
Bill. Bill.
Seth (38:45):
Bill. He's always said it with a sex ed. Bill.
Bill (38:47):
Bill. Bill. Bill. Are you okay? Bill.
I'm like, oh, wow. I must havefainted. And I'm like, oh no, I
You get I'm like, oh my god, howembarrassing, I farted. And then
I'm like, I move in the chairand I'm like, oh no. And I'm
wearing shorts.
Seth (39:07):
Whole family.
Bill (39:08):
Whole family.
Seth (39:09):
Whole Argentinian family.
Bill (39:10):
And I'm like, don't let Elbanyo. Don't let Elbanyo. And
they're like, what? And they'relike, up there. And I was like,
I'm running, holding my ass withduty coming down my leg.
Just carnage, absolute fuckingcarnage of diarrhea, disgusting.
(39:32):
And I'm running up the bat.There was a trail leading up to
the bathroom, and I shut thefucking bathroom door, and I'm
panicking. Like, I take my pantsoff. I'm like, Throw up in the
sink.
In the sink, not in the toilet.
Seth (39:49):
The sink is the sink control. And you gotta
Bill (39:51):
then Then I'm like, push this is the most disgusting
story. And at the time, I'mthinking to myself, you need to
die. Yeah. Like, you need
Seth (40:00):
only to way out of this is to The only to, like The only
way I'm getting out Right? Is to
Bill (40:05):
I'm like, she's knocking on the door. Bill, Bill, are you
okay? Do not open that door. Donot I was like, do not open the
fuck. I was like, don't don'topen the door.
And she's like, are you okay?I'm like, I'm a little sick, but
just give me some time. I endedup taking a shower, and there
was a moment where I saw thelittle window, and I was like,
if I jump out of this window,can I get like, how can I get
(40:27):
out of here with some dignity? Ican't face this family. The
grandmother?
Like, poor girl is also probablylike, like, who did you bring to
our fucking house? There's shitall over the place. Like, this
isn't coming out of the carpet.You know? Like, what did you do?
So I come out, and I'm like, I'mI'm just a shell of myself. I'm
(40:51):
so, like, broken. And she'slike, I brought you some shorts.
And then
Seth (40:55):
So she brings out little little pities little pitties.
Bill (40:57):
Well, her brother, who was, like, probably 50 lighter
than me, and it's, like, thesetiny little Argentina soccer
shorts that are, like, so
Seth (41:09):
small and little shorts.
Bill (41:11):
And I'm just, like, as if it couldn't get any here's a
little salt. Now just paradearound in your tiny tight ass
shorts.
Seth (41:19):
I remember you telling me, like, that you get out of the
bathroom, mom's cleaning thefloor. Yeah.
Bill (41:22):
It was it was Cleaning the curtain
Seth (41:25):
stains off this floor.
Bill (41:26):
No. I How did you
Seth (41:27):
get out, though? I forgot.
Bill (41:28):
We I I laid in her bed, and she was like, here's some
water. And I was like, do youhave a gun or something? Like,
can I just kill myself here?
Seth (41:37):
Do you have a
Bill (41:38):
gun? So I just remember her being so incredibly
understanding. I if that was me,I would've been like, get the
fuck out.
Seth (41:50):
With your family?
Bill (41:51):
Yeah. No. She was bless her heart. She was so
Seth (41:54):
sweet. Outs.
Bill (41:55):
Yeah. She was so sweet and understanding, and and I I kind
of just, like, left. I walkedout. No eye contact. I was like,
and then I I just went, and Iremember thinking to myself,
that sucked, but I can't wait totell my friends.
(42:15):
Like, this is gonna be a storythat I cannot wait. And that's
friendship.
Seth (42:19):
Yeah. That's real friendship.
Bill (42:21):
This is like
Seth (42:22):
how do you not low we're talking. Right? When you have
things like this happen in yourlife, as you should, if you're
experiencing life, if you'reexperiencing things, let your
friends in on the fun. Please.It's a joy.
Bill (42:35):
I wanna hear when at your lowest.
Seth (42:39):
That means love. If you call and tell me that story, it
means you love me.
Bill (42:43):
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Seth (42:44):
It's not little things. It's not gestures. It's not
tokens of appreciations. It'syou shitting your pants in front
of a whole family and thentelling me, and then years
later, bringing it up on camera
Bill (42:57):
Yeah.
Seth (42:57):
For many people to see. Yeah. And that's flirting with
friendship. That is. That is.
I love
Bill (43:01):
you, Bill. I love you too.
Seth (43:02):
Thank you. Thank you for coming on, and I can't wait for
Bill (43:05):
I can't wait to see guys come.
Seth (43:06):
Enjoy this fucking, The playground is open. Let's do it.
Let's go.
Bill (43:12):
Floating our friendship is produced by executive producers
Nikita Stanley, Jesse Rock,Craig Pettigrew, and Seth
Troxler. Seth is an EP. What?What's going on here? Their co
executive producer is Lee Adams.
Aaron Kulik is our liveproduction director. He's also a
VFX and motion graphicssupervisor. Our director of
photography is Lucas Treble. Heasked me to film this. You can
go watch it on YouTube, whichbrings me to Veronica Guessa,
(43:34):
our incredible set designer,also known as Mocchi Baby or
Mocchi.
Check our workout. It's reallyincredible. Again, watching on
YouTube. Our editor is TylerChristie. Our sound design and
original composition is byJasper Van Dyke.
Seth was our music supervisor.Wait a sec. No. He's not. I'm
pretty sure I was.
Not sure why Seth is getting allthese credits. Anyways, who
(43:55):
else? Our camera operator isJoseph Holton, a k a n y x. A
lot of nicknames here. Ourcamera assistant is Jake.
I don't know Jake's last name.Sorry about that, Jake. Our oh,
wait. It's Jake Smith. Ourproduction sound mixer is Joel
Yule.
And last but not least, bigthank you to our team at Kizzy
Music for all of our additionalmusic and to TV Store Paris for
their help in our set design.That is it. I'm out of here.
(44:16):
Bye.
Welcome to Foolerying with Friendship. Who? Fuck fuck you,
Bill.
Bill (00:16):
The first This is this how the show's going.
Seth (00:19):
Flirting with friendship with Bill Patrick.
Bill (00:21):
Flirting with friendship.
Seth (00:22):
No. Let's start that over. Keep your fucking
Bill (00:25):
mouth shut. Shut your mouth.
Seth (00:27):
So welcome to flirting with some truth. God, I was so
good yesterday before you gothere.
Bill (00:33):
I love it.
Seth (00:33):
I hate you. Welcome to flirting with friendship. I
can't do it now. Welcome to ourshow. I'm Seth Troxler.
(01:00):
This is
Bill (01:00):
Bill Patrick. What's the name of the show?
Seth (01:02):
What's the name of the show, Bill? You how about you
say the name of the show?Flirting with Friendship.
Flirting with Friendship.Flirting with Shemship.
Flirting with Friendship isabout interesting people having
interesting conversations, andBill and I just, being complete
weirdos with each other. We'regonna start this kind of malaise
(01:23):
into this program by talkingabout our friendship that
somehow has lasted nearly twentyyears.
Bill (01:30):
Twenty years.
Seth (01:54):
You know, the world is so hard. You know, it's good to
know one person's by your sidewhen you're at your lowest and
your best. It's easy to havefriends who are there when the
times are good. But when you'reat rock bottom and you can look
someone in the eyes and theysmile at you like that, that's
(02:15):
when you know you're like,you're gonna be there at my
funeral or maybe you'll skip it.
Bill (02:21):
It depends what's on that day.
Seth (02:22):
It's Yeah.
Bill (02:24):
If I have, like, a gig, it depends.
Seth (02:27):
But At eighty?
Bill (02:28):
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Seth (02:29):
You're still gonna be gigging at eighty, you hope? You
know, with that, like, snaggletooth?
Bill (02:34):
Zooming in on that. I know he is. Oh my gosh.
Seth (02:38):
Let's start at the beginning because I think it's
good to preface that the firstday we met, there was a series
of, I guess, interstellar cosmicof events that had brought us to
the point of meeting. Well,first, we had already had some
friends saying,
Bill (02:58):
yo, you guys gonna meet me? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, meet Bill.
Seth (03:01):
Yeah. That's great. I like him. I already don't like this
guy. I think that was thefeeling I
Bill (03:07):
don't like a forced friendship.
Seth (03:08):
A forced friendship is never nice
Bill (03:10):
It's to never good. Whether it's a friendship or a
relationship. Oh, you gotta meetthis girl. Gonna meet this Yeah.
And I
Seth (03:14):
It's already a no.
Bill (03:15):
Yeah. Already, we're off we're off to a bad start.
Seth (03:18):
So when we met, we were in Williamsburg. Back when
Williamsburg was only Jews andHispanics, mind you.
Bill (03:25):
It was shady.
Seth (03:26):
Say that because it's true.
Bill (03:27):
It was shady.
Seth (03:28):
It was shady. Yeah. It was I'm not saying neither those
people are shady, but theneighborhood was shady.
Bill (03:33):
The neighborhood was scash.
Seth (03:34):
There it was. You could die in a corner. There was a lot
of, like, you know, like, whatis it? Not CSI. What's not New
York Undercover.
Bill (03:41):
What's the
Seth (03:41):
main one?
Bill (03:42):
Law Order?
Seth (03:42):
Law and Order. SVU. That that, like, area, that pier area
was a lot of, you know, like,where they they find the body
wrapped
Bill (03:51):
in a of sacks.
Seth (03:52):
A lot of bodies in that sack in the in the in the
Hudson. Is that the Hudsonthere?
Bill (03:56):
That is the East River.
Seth (03:57):
That's the East River.
Bill (03:58):
No. Yeah. It is the East River.
Seth (03:59):
Whatever river
Bill (04:00):
it is. East River. Yeah.
Seth (04:01):
There's a lot of dead people there.
Bill (04:02):
Yeah.
Seth (04:02):
So we were outside. We finally got
Bill (04:06):
You were DJing.
Seth (04:06):
You tell the story. Did you were DJing? Tell me tell me
how it happened
Bill (04:09):
to us. Someone was what I remember, you gotta meet Seth.
You gotta meet Seth Having thismoment, Seth mid mix introduced
and then proceeds. Hi. Hey,Bill.
Seth. Hey. Nice to meet you.Nice to meet you. And then all I
remember is you turned aroundand proceeded to just throw up
(04:29):
in the bushes.
Seth (04:30):
I had I mean, I have
Bill (04:32):
You had back then.
Seth (04:33):
Oh, my my my regurge? Yeah. I could walk and throw up.
Bill (04:36):
Yeah. You did. I remember when we
Seth (04:37):
Many went times. It's it's a little
Bill (04:39):
Yeah. A lot of that.
Seth (04:41):
You know, I've partied so much. Even then, I don't have an
esophagus. I found that outrecently. It's it's gone. It's
burned away.
The flap doesn't exist. Yeah. Iknow. That's what the doctor
told me.
Bill (04:51):
Way to go.
Seth (04:52):
And they said if I you know, they said if I don't stop
with the acid, I I wanna get thebig c.
Bill (04:56):
Yeah. Well You and me both. That's yeah. We could talk
about that. But We
Seth (05:01):
could talk about that later. Back to the story. I
throw up. Throw up. We gooutside for a little casual
stroll.
Right? I'm like, maybe I'mcoming up. I just need to go get
someone get some air for aminute. Mhmm. Go outside.
We're like, got our blueblockers on. I'm like, glasses.
I also like those. Hyperreality. We had a little moment.
Deep v.
Bill (05:21):
Deep v.
Seth (05:22):
It was the deep v days.
Bill (05:23):
Even a This is like, what? O '5? O '5.
Seth (05:27):
O '5.
Bill (05:28):
Yeah. Yeah. So it's twenty years. It is twenty years.
Seth (05:30):
Twenty years today. Yeah. Still looking at your beautiful
what color are your eyes? Green?They're gonna have a greenish
Bill (05:35):
I can't believe you're asking me that after twenty
years. It's like my one greatfeature.
Seth (05:42):
Green.
Bill (05:42):
Green, hazel.
Seth (05:43):
Shit. I love that I'm across from you, and I can't
really look. I'm like, whatcolor are your eye?
Bill (05:51):
Yeah. We had a moment outside. We we we we got to
meet. We got to finally, like,talk one on one. It may have
been someone else with us.
Seth (05:59):
I think crazy Shauna was there too.
Bill (06:02):
I think she's the one who introduced who
Seth (06:03):
was She did introduce us.
Bill (06:05):
I didn't wanna give her credit.
Seth (06:06):
Yeah. She did something she did some good things. Yeah.
We have a friend who.
Bill (06:12):
Ex girlfriend.
Seth (06:16):
Anyway, as we start to walk back, I remember this pig's
head. Did it fall off of atruck, or was it just I
Bill (06:23):
think we concocted it must fallen off a truck. Was off the
truck. But there was no truckinside.
Seth (06:27):
Yeah. There's decapitated pig's head that just appeared in
front of our feet, and we'relike and I had on these American
flag sliders, I remember. Andthen we looked down, and we
looked at each other. And then Ithink at that point, we knew
this this love was bound.
Bill (06:46):
This is an omen.
Seth (06:47):
This is an omen.
Bill (06:48):
Yes.
Seth (06:48):
This is a deep omen from some dark place.
Bill (06:53):
Yes. And we just have to we have to just decide. What
it's gonna be. Yeah. I took itas a sign as well.
Seth (06:58):
Yeah. A sign of a great friendship. Yeah.
Bill (07:00):
For better or worse. I was like, alright. This is what it's
gonna be.
Seth (07:03):
We took the pig's head and signed.
Bill (07:04):
We did. I think we put it on the DJ booth.
Seth (07:06):
We put it on the DJ booth. And now twenty years later,
we've got a we've got a TV showtogether. This is our podcast,
Elevated Podcast. I'm SethTroxler.
Bill (07:20):
And I'm Bill Patrick.
Seth (07:21):
And this is Pillow Talk. We're two assholes in a bed
telling you what to do with yourlife. If you've ever been low or
down and ever wanted yourexpectations lifted up about a
current situation or dilemmathat you're facing, please call
the number below.
Bill (07:36):
We'll take anything. Friend advice you need, lover
advice, anime advice. If youneed to hide a body, we're your
guys.
Seth (07:45):
Friend or foe, it's all here just for you. Call now.
Hill o talk.
Bill (07:50):
Hill o talk. Hill o talk.
Seth (07:55):
So, yeah, that was the beginning.
Bill (07:58):
It was the beginning. We we crossed oceans together.
Yeah. We lived in Berlin.
Seth (08:04):
We lived in Berlin.
Bill (08:05):
Sex is nice ish. Sex and nice ish. An absolute squat. We
know. Trap house.
Seth (08:11):
Oh, wow. This is this is early two thousands. No
Americans are in Berlin.
Bill (08:15):
Not many.
Seth (08:16):
There's 15 of us and a lot of Canadians.
Bill (08:19):
A lot of Canadians.
Seth (08:20):
A lot of Canadians. Canadians were the first guys.
You know? Yes. We were allsquatting.
Bill (08:24):
No. I never squatted.
Seth (08:25):
You never squatted.
Bill (08:26):
I came for a summer.
Seth (08:27):
You came directly into a house? Yes. You were too good
for you were a bit older. Youwere too good for to sleep on
the floor.
Bill (08:32):
I live with Oh,
Seth (08:35):
oh my god. I think this is a side quest story. One of the
greatest pranks I've ever pulledin my life. I'm looking at you
right now.
Bill (08:48):
So Bill had a roommate. What? We're gonna tell this?
Seth (08:51):
We're gonna tell the stories because that's why we're
here, and I don't give a fuck.
Bill (08:54):
Yeah.
Seth (08:55):
It's been nearly twenty years. Oh. Oh. Hello. Hello.
And also, he's a dick.
Bill (09:00):
He fell off.
Seth (09:01):
He fell off.
Bill (09:01):
Something happened.
Seth (09:02):
I I am pretty sure he voted for Trump twice. I could
get I can guarantee you that.
Bill (09:07):
If I was a betting man.
Seth (09:08):
If I was a I've never gambled in my life, but if I
were to, I can say he doesn'tlike black people. Bill had this
Bill (09:22):
Defamation lawsuit ain't coming.
Seth (09:24):
Bill had this roommate, and we were friends. We were all
great friends. We were allcoming up together. Mhmm. Also
part of the blue blocker armywas this whole situation.
Then, at some point, when we allmoved, he just started to become
a really petty friend. Like andwe couldn't understand it. Great
chef. Anytime we would havepotluck dinners, what did he do?
(09:48):
Bring wine.
Bill (09:48):
I remember the tipping point was Thanksgiving. We asked
him to make a green beancasserole. Like, now's your
chance. You're this incrediblechef. We're having a nice
Thanksgiving, all the Americans,and he brought wine, and I I
think mashed potatoes.
I think, if that and I may bebeing generous.
Seth (10:10):
I think you're being generous.
Bill (10:11):
Yeah. I think
Seth (10:12):
he just brought wine. And he would always do this thing
where we'd all be in the house,and he would make these
elaborate meals. Duck with complike, crazy stuff for one.
Bill (10:25):
I was super hobo back then. I had I no was eating
ramen, and he's making fuckingMichelin starved dinners for
himself.
Seth (10:32):
Who's got the careers now?
Bill (10:33):
Yeah. Yes.
Seth (10:34):
Right? We're, like, living off of those Hooner house
chickens.
Bill (10:37):
Yes.
Seth (10:37):
Right? Fishing out coins from the thing. This guy's
making duck confi. What a dick.To cook for one, to cook a three
star meal for one person, whenyou got your two friends sitting
in the other room, it's like,this that's a real malicious
friendship.
There was a lot of alreadymicroaggressions leading up to
the to the toilet paperincident.
Bill (10:59):
The toilet paper incident. He was leaving for a US tour,
and I was leaving for two daysto do some gigs of my own. And I
noticed that there was, like,very little toilet paper left in
the in the bathroom.
Seth (11:16):
Enough enough for a couple
Bill (11:18):
Enough for maybe one or two more uses, and I knew he was
leaving in three days. I thoughtto myself, there's no way this
is gonna last three days. I knowwe're gonna run out of toilet
paper. When I get back I made anote. When I get back on fucking
Friday, Friday, if there's notoilet paper here, I'm gonna I'm
gonna fucking kill this guy.
(11:39):
So sure enough, I get back frommy couple of gigs. I get back on
a Friday, and I'm like, I gostraight to beeline to the
bathroom.
Seth (11:48):
This is this is is a point. This is a point right
here.
Bill (11:51):
And I look and there's no toilet paper. No toilet paper.
And I'm thinking to myself, thismotherfucker, he refused to to
refill the toilet paper for me.He's going away for a month and
he's thinking to myself, I'm notyou know what?
Seth (12:05):
Let him He thought fuck this guy.
Bill (12:07):
Exactly. But also, how crazy am I to notice this also
and be like
Seth (12:12):
I mean, we already established we're both we're all
on the spectrum. Right?
Bill (12:15):
So I'm like, if I was an asshole, where would I hide a
stock a large stock of toiletpaper? I you know, if I was an
asshole, I'd probably have,like, a back stock, like, a a
Costco size amount of toiletpaper hidden somewhere for
myself. Sure enough, right tothe room, I'm like, let me check
(12:36):
the bottom drawer of hisdresser. Boom. 30 rolls of
toilet paper.
Paper towels.
Seth (12:44):
Whole stock.
Bill (12:45):
He had a fucking Costco store. He had it was
Seth (12:49):
motherfucking. We were like, I and I I show up because
I we used to have a thing. I'dcome over. We'd make breakfast,
watch Seinfeld, take naps inbed. Yes.
Bill's the only guy that I I napwith. You know, we we sleep
together in a non You gay know?Not not not if there's anything
wrong if you you know?
Bill (13:04):
No. No. No.
Seth (13:05):
In the other way too. But, like, yeah, we just, like, you
know, have a little, like, youknow, little pillow talk.
Bill (13:09):
Of course.
Seth (13:10):
We're pillow talk tings. As you can see, there's a
dynamic here. So I'm like, thismotherfucker's gotta go down.
Bill (13:16):
I called Seth immediately. I was like, get over here right
now.
Seth (13:18):
And I was like, this aggression will not stand. So
what I did Wow. He was away for,a month. Mhmm. And just at the
time were raving a lot.
A lot. So I took all of thismotherfucker's underwear. I
would wear them.
Bill (13:31):
No. There was one.
Seth (13:32):
It was just one pair.
Bill (13:33):
It had tiny little cars on it.
Seth (13:34):
Yeah. Okay. It was one pair. Yeah. I went out raving.
We went out for like four days.
Bill (13:38):
Berkine.
Seth (13:39):
Berkine. Bar twenty five. All of my junk was I mean, I'm a
stinky guy. If anyone's met me,they know they know my body odor
care lack of care for you know,I'm like, I I think it's a
pheromone thing, whatever. Ittracks.
Disgusting. See, it's I'mdisgusting. And so I wear this
guy's underwear the wholeweekend and fold them back
(14:03):
perfectly
Bill (14:04):
Into the drawer.
Seth (14:05):
Into the drawer, put them in his drawer. I was like, I'm
like, you wanna go low? I'll goballs deep. You know? How did he
find out?
Because I I remember at somepoint he found out.
Bill (14:22):
Was wearing he came back. He always He he
Seth (14:24):
wore them.
Bill (14:25):
I think you told him.
Seth (14:26):
I I think I did. I'm I'm a guy who will teabag you and then
tell you to your face.
Bill (14:29):
Yeah. Yeah.
Seth (14:30):
Yeah. I have done that many of times.
Bill (14:31):
But I think he told I think at some point he pissed
you off, and you're like, youknow what, dick? Actually, that
underwear that you're probablywearing right now, I raved,
like, five days in it. Fivedays. And I put it back.
Seth (14:42):
And we know about the toilet paper.
Bill (14:43):
And we know everything. Yeah. He moved out quickly after
that. Oh, yeah. And his
Seth (14:48):
career has never recovered.
Bill (14:50):
I mean, I think he had some I think he went through
some personal health issues, butno excuse for being a dick to
your friends. No. No. No. No.
No. No. No.
Seth (15:00):
So, Bill, let me get my interview on because I know a
lot about your life, but maybe alot of people don't know so much
about Sure they don't. The earlyBill Patrick. Because you've
been DJing forever. You startedyour career in New York as DJ
Holy Roller.
Bill (15:14):
Oh my god. You remember that.
Seth (15:16):
I know. I know everything about you, Bill. Right there.
His first tattoo
Bill (15:20):
Your first tattoo.
Seth (15:21):
God. Because nobody called himself Holy Roller
Bill (15:23):
Oh my god.
Seth (15:24):
Because he was into God, and he loved taking pills.
That's my friend.
Bill (15:28):
That makes sense.
Seth (15:29):
That's that's Bill Patrick. It makes I was DJ Ohm
because I went to India, and Ithought it was cool. It was just
a symbol. My parents were intoPrince.
Bill (15:38):
Just a sign. Prince style.
Seth (15:39):
It was Prince style.
Bill (15:40):
Really?
Seth (15:41):
I was that cocky from day one.
Bill (15:43):
Was this before Prince when
Seth (15:44):
This is Prince was already a symbol.
Bill (15:46):
Oh, it was a symbol.
Seth (15:47):
Okay. Yeah. So you started in New York. You had this Bill
used to be so famous. I rememberthere were so many
Bill (15:52):
Not so very generous word. You were.
Seth (15:55):
Where? In New York and Romania. Remember? Romania. I
remember coming to Romania thefirst time you and Lee Burge had
brought me, and there was allthese billboards everywhere.
Bill Pat like, in Ibiza with me,but it was Bill. Bill Pat, and I
was
Bill (16:11):
like with sun waves. There was no billboards separate.
There was Maybe there was one
Seth (16:16):
He's playing
Bill (16:16):
party thing.
Seth (16:17):
Let yourself be let me let me
Bill (16:18):
Go on. Go Go on.
Seth (16:19):
Go Get me embellish in the story.
Bill (16:20):
Comfortable with it, but go.
Seth (16:22):
So there's this all these signs and stuff. And I remember
when I was coming up and we werejust these young kids, Bill had
this really big party in NewYork. Robots. He was bringing
all these great DJs. You wannatell us a little bit about your
your early career being a DJ,Bill?
Bill (16:36):
Yeah. Robots came after my residency at Arc, which was
vinyl back in the day whereDanny Tenaglia, Body and Soul,
Danny Crivet, Joe Clozell,
Seth (16:47):
friends of New York DJ. We get it.
Bill (16:50):
Do they do people do the children know
Seth (16:52):
who these DJs? Children know who knows those working the
old DJs are.
Bill (16:55):
Working the door at Vinyl back then? Who? Miss Honey.
That's how I met Honey, Dijon,back then.
Seth (17:02):
That Miss Honey, not Miss Honey, not miss miss Honey.
Bill (17:05):
Well, Honey Dijon used to be go as miss Honey. Oh, really?
Miss Honey. Yeah. And then shebecame Honey Dijon, but, like,
she was working the door forDanny.
Seth (17:14):
Was she as cold blooded then as she is now or maybe
more?
Bill (17:18):
She was she was tough.
Seth (17:19):
Tough cut cut.
Bill (17:20):
She was always sweet to me. I don't know why.
Seth (17:22):
She's always sweet to me too.
Bill (17:23):
And still to this day. The sweetest. She's always every
time I see
Seth (17:27):
her mother.
Bill (17:28):
Yes. And so I became resident of this club, and Nick
AC was the manager one of themanagers of the club. We decided
at the time, there was a a bitof a a void in New York, like
Seth (17:40):
For, like, European stuff. Right?
Bill (17:42):
Yeah. But, also, like, it was a Giuliani era. Clubs were
shutting down. There was no kindof it was kind of an end of an
era. Twilight had shut down andand Tunnel and Sound Factory and
now Vinyl.
We thought it would be cool towe were playing, like, like,
German techno minimal stuff Yes.With Cardierville Lobos. Yeah.
(18:03):
Yeah. Yeah.
And we kinda built a bit of afollowing, we decided to start
our own party, call it robots.And that party was started off
weekly at this place called Cafede Ville downstairs, and then we
took it to Cielo monthly. Andthat's when we took took it to
Cielo, we were able to startbringing in, like, Sven Bot,
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Luciano, Trent Moeller, but alsoin this also booking, like,
Derek Faseko, Adam X, techno Hehas a mix. Like, local techno
heads and international artists.And that really kind of took
off.
Seth (18:42):
That's I mean, you were one of the first Americans to
play DC ten. You and Andrew.Right?
Bill (18:47):
Andrew Grant. Yeah. Back in
Seth (18:48):
the You guys were coming over here.
Bill (18:50):
02/2004.
Seth (18:51):
02/2005.
Bill (18:52):
That was, like, when DC ten opened Circle Logo opened at
6AM on Monday right after spaceon Completely crackers.
Crackers. But people would justflock to DC ten, 6AM, and it was
the after hours.
Seth (19:07):
Yeah. That was the thing. Because after hours for we love
space. Right?
Bill (19:09):
Yeah. Yeah. And it would close, I think, at five in the
afternoon or it's maybe a littlebit later. But I played in,
like, two thousand four, twothousand five, The Terrorists at
the time. Incredible.
Just really good memories. Butthat was how my career kinda
started. I I and I rememberdistinctly, very vividly coming
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over here and playing atUnderground and Sven Voth coming
to see me and taking me asideafter my set and said to me, if
you wanna take your career tothe next step, you have to move
to Europe. New York, America
Seth (19:49):
It seems like he was wrong. I'm like I'm like,
thanks, man.
Bill (19:56):
Thanks the terrible But, no. He was like and it was true.
He was like, in America, youcould only go back then,
especially
Seth (20:04):
Oh, a 100%.
Bill (20:05):
There was a ceiling. You could only go so far, and we had
reached it, and it was time.
Seth (20:09):
There was a couple small crews around America. There was
a San Francisco crew back then.Remember, there was
Bill (20:16):
Orlando. Orlando and Tampa gang.
Seth (20:18):
Yeah. That was, like, a big thing. Yeah. There was
Drew's punk ass in in SaintLouis.
Bill (20:24):
Boston had a little Yeah.
Seth (20:26):
Boston with Charlie and everybody. But it's, like, these
little small groups of people,and then we kinda all started to
come over to Europe, do ourthing. But we were the ragtag
Americans. Yeah. I'm this is myclick impersonation.
We were the Americans in thehouse.
Bill (20:42):
We were not welcomed. I remember feeling a lot of anti
American sentiment. Like
Seth (20:47):
I remember when we we came during that time, a German came
up to me. He's like, I havesomething for you. You can never
you can never bet on Americanstupidity because you can count
on it. Yeah. And look at wherewe are now.
That joke has stood the test oftime for twenty years because
Americans
Bill (21:06):
Going over to a new country, especially Germany,
such a, like,
Seth (21:10):
push I have first. Right?
Bill (21:11):
Yeah. You went in 2000
Seth (21:12):
We and had that was 02/2006, I think, I left. Yeah.
Look at this. Look at thesepictures of us. Look.
We are so young.
Bill (21:19):
Who's that?
Seth (21:20):
That was me, asshole. That was?
Bill (21:22):
Yeah. Wow. You
Seth (21:24):
look better. I did I
Bill (21:26):
did me and my manicured, the the blue blockers. The
manicured beard.
Seth (21:34):
So much fragility. So much
Bill (21:36):
Look at that. So little so few tattoos as well. I know. I
wish I you know, I if I couldgive any advice about tattoos,
don't get them until you're inyour mid thirties. There's a lot
of stupid shit you're into whenyou're your twenties.
Most of
Seth (21:50):
your bad tattoos happen after your mid thirties.
Bill (21:52):
No. No. Most of them are. Most of
Seth (21:54):
I'm like I'm like I'm like Bill.
Bill (21:56):
Actually, you could be right about a couple of them.
But for the most Stop part of my
Seth (22:01):
in your mid thirties is what I say.
Bill (22:02):
Yes. A lot of mistakes. But
Seth (22:07):
Oh, a lot of mistakes in life, but we're still here.
We're still smiling. You almostdied when we made a book. We
did.
Bill (22:13):
You know what? I actually felt really good seeing that
this daddy wellness guy alsowent to the hospital after
touring with you.
Seth (22:20):
Yeah. I I sent both of them to the hospital. Yeah. No
one can can be with me.
Bill (22:25):
In general?
Seth (22:26):
My wife's doing a good job. Yeah. Yeah. She's she
tolerates me somehow. I don't Idon't know.
I think it's the kids
Bill (22:35):
That helps.
Seth (22:35):
Being more annoying than me. But
Bill (22:39):
but it's not easy to be on tour with you in general. I
mean, for me, from a, like, afriend standpoint friend's
standpoint, it's easy. Easy.
Seth (22:46):
But the amount of time
Bill (22:50):
Yeah. But just the intensity of it. Seeing that two
other people went to thehospital made me feel so good.
Seth (22:56):
But you got cancer.
Bill (22:58):
Yeah. But not from the tour. No.
Seth (23:00):
You're not gonna give me credit for that?
Bill (23:02):
You're not getting credit for that. That is no way.
Seth (23:05):
How? Did I get Bill cancer? It says, yes, you may
rely on it. Fuck.
Bill (23:13):
That's right there. Last thing. He's already got a god
conflict.
Seth (23:16):
If there's any truth in me almost killing my best friend,
it's from the Magic eight Ball.
Bill (23:22):
Thank you. He has a it's not a god complex. It was a
Jesus complex. Right?
Seth (23:25):
I had a Jesus complex because Jesus and I supposedly
had the same birthday.
Bill (23:30):
Mhmm.
Seth (23:30):
Like, in the Bible, if you follow the clues. Right? I do my
own research. I'm a thinkingperson. But there is a theory
online that Jesus' real birthdayis September 29.
And also if you look at, like
Bill (23:46):
Yes.
Seth (23:46):
The kinda Yes. '9 like, basically, my parents fucked on
New Year's, and now I was bornexactly nine months and three
weeks later. Mhmm. Or September29, September. That's what
happens if you're, you know, ifyou like to look at the moon
site, whatever, the cycles oflife.
Sure. You know? But Jesus issupposed so I had this, like,
Jesus complex, but then when Iturned what is it? How old was
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he when he died when they killedhim?
Bill (24:08):
33. 33. 33. If he even existed.
Seth (24:11):
No. When I turned 27 and 33, I realized I wasn't that
special.
Bill (24:15):
You were hoping to die at 27. Why are
Seth (24:17):
I was really on track to have a to go out high because I
was number one DJ at 24. I wasliving the high life. I was
like, guys, I could be in the 27club. And I I hit the presses.
Bill (24:31):
On on like, lower tier of celebrity.
Seth (24:36):
I mean, I'm I'm I'm list famous anyway.
Bill (24:38):
Yeah. You're not Kirchleveen, Amy Winehouse.
Seth (24:41):
If it would've happened, I would've went into techno, you
know, like, got it. Imagine,Joe, if I would've died at 27 at
that point, god. God. I therewould be fucking statues.
Bill (24:55):
That's debatable. The There would not be statues, but
I'll I want you to believe that.Would make a little, like, Play
Doh Oh, yeah? Statue for you.Yeah.
Of you. It would
Seth (25:11):
come it would come in Plato at this point.
Bill (25:14):
But you made it past 27.
Seth (25:15):
I made it. Then I made it to 33, and I was like, maybe I'm
geniuses reincarnated, and thenthen I didn't die at 33. So just
a normal person.
Bill (25:24):
Yeah. Reaching 40 and finally realizing.
Seth (25:27):
40 this year. I mean, some of the best times we ever had
were at my birthday parties.
Bill (25:32):
These were iconic parties. Internationally known, widely
accepted to be some of the bestparties that
Seth (25:38):
We used to have these crazy parties at Pike's.
Bill (25:41):
We came up as DJs in the golden age of DJing.
Seth (25:44):
Oh, well, the golden age of nightlife.
Bill (25:46):
Yeah. Nightlife. Yeah. Really.
Seth (25:47):
Everyone wants to look cool, have their designer stuff
on. Being in nightlife beforewas like you know, everyone
talks about safe space.Nightlife was the safe space.
Bill (25:58):
You didn't even have you didn't have to say it?
Seth (26:00):
Have to say it because everyone went out because
they're like, god. I have to getaway from all these other
people.
Bill (26:05):
Completely.
Seth (26:06):
So that's why I'm going out to this place
Bill (26:09):
Yes.
Seth (26:09):
Is to be with other people who are like, I don't give a
fuck about anything. Yeah. Ijust wanna enjoy my life, have a
good time, talk some totallycracker shit with some
strangers.
Bill (26:23):
And dance. And dance.
Seth (26:25):
Yeah. I wanna dance with men all night with my top off.
Bill (26:28):
Yeah. I mean, well, to put it pretty simply was dance music
and club culture was acounterculture.
Seth (26:35):
It it was counterculture.
Bill (26:36):
It's not a counterculture anymore. No. It's mainstream.
It's mainstream culture.Mainstream.
A lot
Seth (26:41):
too many bros. There needs to be more gatekeeping, or
normal people need to level upand fucking turn up the weird.
Bill (26:48):
People are afraid to turn up the weird.
Seth (26:49):
People, why are you so fucking afraid to turn up the
weird? We're what? I thinkthirty seconds to midnight on
the doomsday clock. I think it'sliterally thirty seconds.
Bill (26:58):
I think
Seth (26:58):
it's not even three minutes.
Bill (27:00):
Less than that. Yeah. Is that twenty eight or something?
Seth (27:02):
Yeah. Yeah. Twenty eight seconds to the end of the
fucking world. I don't give afuck anymore. Yeah.
I everyone should just bethemselves. My son said that to
me the other day. It was themost profound thing. He's like,
you know, daddy? You can just beyourself.
We can just be ourselves. It'sso great when you're be I was
like, you are you might beJesus, actually.
Bill (27:22):
What a
Seth (27:22):
little golden with your little golden curls. Oh, Jesus.
Put that
Bill (27:26):
type of pressure on.
Seth (27:27):
He's so beautiful.
Bill (27:28):
He is he is cute.
Seth (27:29):
You're the godparent to my daughter. Yeah.
Bill (27:32):
I know. Yeah. Very honored Yeah. For that. But I would like
to say that the PC shit, we werenever we never subscribed to
that.
Seth (27:42):
All the people back then, there was no PC between queer
culture, between everyone justthrew shade at everybody.
Bill (27:49):
I mean, shade came from
Seth (27:51):
Shade shade is a queer thing. Yeah. 100%.
Bill (27:53):
100%. All of my shade, all of my, like
Seth (27:56):
100%.
Bill (27:57):
Everything I learned from Queer culture. Queer culture in
New York.
Seth (28:01):
I learned so much about life in Berlin being wild.
Bill (28:06):
Bergheim for Oh. Twenty hours.
Seth (28:08):
Oh, when you used to be able to go to Berghein and watch
a guy get you know what? A guywho used to sit at the end of
the trough and you could piss inhis mouth? I never
Bill (28:14):
piss in his mouth. I never I I But it was
Seth (28:16):
you saw it.
Bill (28:17):
You know? Was Of course. It was disgusting.
Seth (28:19):
Bill has a thing against disgusting things. If right now
I started bleeding, he wouldthrow up.
Bill (28:23):
No. No. No. The blood that's a normal Bill. No.
That's not talking about blood.I won't throw up. I'll faint.
And we don't want that.
Seth (28:31):
I would love for you to faint on camera. No.
Bill (28:33):
It's not.
Seth (28:34):
I only want the worst for you.
Bill (28:37):
I appreciate it. No. I want the best for you. The blood
thing, depending where it'scoming from, it's just, you
know, like, I get blood drawnnow because of my Yeah. Because
you of The
Seth (28:47):
big c.
Bill (28:48):
The cancer. And it's always it's just a psychological
thing.
Seth (28:52):
If you all should just say, but
Bill (28:54):
it's the needle going in the vein and pulling it. It's a
whole psychological mind fuckthat I I will pass out if I
don't take a quarter Xanaxbefore I go.
Seth (29:04):
I think you have an anxious, you have anxiety.
Bill (29:06):
Yeah. No shit. This is like you're realizing this now
after twenty years?
Seth (29:10):
No. No. I realized it after twenty minutes. Yeah. I
was like, my guy.
Bill (29:16):
A little. There's lots of things to be anxious about.
Seth (29:19):
I don't get anxious about anything because I am very
aloof. My wife told me today,she's like, I don't think I've
ever met someone so scat in mylife. Yeah. Because I I left my
keys upstairs, then I came down,and then I left something else.
She's like, how, every day, howis it how do you live like this?
And I'm like, what do you mean?And and you, like, that's maybe
(29:39):
why I married her because youguys are similar Really?
Bill (29:45):
Same anxieties. Interesting.
Seth (29:47):
Yeah. Could say a lot about our relationship.
Bill (29:49):
Yeah. Yeah. Could've married me. Yeah.
Seth (29:53):
Nah. I think we did kinda agree on
Bill (29:58):
Move on.
Seth (29:59):
Hetero life partners.
Bill (30:00):
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I've had that agreement with Of many
people? Girls.
Oh, okay. If we don't getmarried you know, you did a
whole thing at
Seth (30:06):
some point. But is it really
Bill (30:07):
It's never. It's just make yourself feel yeah.
Seth (30:10):
Make it make yourself feel better for the fact that you
guys will never sleep together?
Bill (30:13):
Yes. You're always being in the friend zone. Yeah. 100%
that's what that is.
Seth (30:17):
Let's clarify how deep this friend zone goes.
Bill (30:19):
This friend zone goes, Radiv, that in thirty years
Seth (30:22):
In thirty years, we can get married as friends. Yes. And
maybe there's still a chance.
Bill (30:27):
That's all I wanted and needed.
Seth (30:29):
But now you're like a stepdad. We're both fathers now.
Bill (30:31):
I know. It's great.
Seth (30:32):
Can you believe it?
Bill (30:32):
I love it. I love being an influence. How as scary as that
is on, like, a younger youth, achild, and teaching them.
Seth (30:41):
And you've seen the growth.
Bill (30:42):
The nine year old is listening to Frank Ocean and Ski
Mask. Like, you can't that's,like, great. Nine years old?
Seth (30:50):
That's an advanced nine
Bill (30:51):
year old. Yes. Exactly. So, no, it's great. I love
bringing all my wild andinteresting takes on life and
music and teaching them.
You're like Cosmo. You'retelling me today how confident
he is just walking up to kids,being like,
Seth (31:08):
he He was is a very confident, very confident little
boy.
Bill (31:13):
Yeah.
Seth (31:13):
It's pretty So that's
Bill (31:15):
that's you to a t. And someone asked me recently, I did
an interview for the Times UK,and they asked me about, you
know, how did you know at anypoint if Seth was gonna turn
into as successful as he was?And I said, as a matter of fact,
he, like, predicted it. He knewI remember in Berlin, you were
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like, in five years, I'm gonnabe up here. So I'm gonna release
this record on Ghostly, and thenI'm gonna do this, and then I'm
gonna win the DJ poll.
I'm gonna first get on the DJpoll, and then I'm gonna go
climb up, then I'll get numberone. And I was like, he predict
He You guys all
Seth (31:50):
thought I was crazy.
Bill (31:52):
Crazy, but I just was like, I just wanna play some
music. I don't wanna I wasn'tlooking at it as a career like
you were.
Seth (32:00):
I was looking at it as my dreams. Yes. Right? And it's
kind of a funny thing is youmake these dreams when you're
young and few people pursuethem. Right?
But you come up with thisreally, really detailed dream.
And when you go fully for it andthen achieve that dream and sub
(32:20):
dreams, at some point you forgetto make new dreams. This is
where I'm at now. Right? AndHerman, our buddy, my my one of
my other best friends, herecently called me out.
He's like, Seth, what's yourdream now? And I was saying I
wanna figure out some things,and, you know, I was like, I
wanted to be a dad, kind of, butit wasn't any other big dream.
(32:43):
Now the big dream, I'm gonna gofor it again.
Bill (32:46):
What do you mean?
Seth (32:47):
I'm gonna I'm gonna be I'm gonna go for, like, turbo turbo
success.
Bill (32:51):
Like DJ or outside of at life. Life. Success at life.
Seth (32:55):
Life success. Yeah. I'm gonna go for it. Because I got,
like, complacent, you know,smoking a lot of joints Well,
you got your hands dirty. Out.
I was like, what do I need toprove to anyone? Now I got kids.
I'm like, I got something toprove to my kids.
Bill (33:10):
Yeah. Your legacy for your kids. What
Seth (33:15):
else should we share with the people? I mean, we've got a
lot more to share. We've got alot of episodes. I've done
enough. Yeah.
Bill (33:19):
But just as this
Seth (33:20):
is the entry episode of flirting with friendship,
friendship as what Mashay usedto say, friendship is friends.
Bill (33:28):
Friends. Remember that song we were gonna do we wanted
to make a Friends.
Seth (33:33):
Friends. Friends. Friends.
Bill (33:36):
Yep. Friends.
Seth (33:37):
I love that you're my friend, Bill.
Bill (33:39):
I appreciate that. I I love having you as a constant in
my life.
Seth (33:44):
Oh, I love you so much. I love you too.
Bill (33:47):
I'm glad we're doing this. Yeah. Some of these guests that
we're having, I have no idea whothey are.
Seth (33:52):
We've got George Tavros coming in.
Bill (33:54):
Excited. George is the sound guy, extraordinaire.
Seth (33:58):
Extraordinaire. We've got Roshan Murphy.
Bill (34:01):
I know her as Royston Murphy.
Seth (34:03):
Royston, I think we're gonna have well, that's gonna be
a discussion. How do youactually say your name? We could
start with that just so she'sshe's frustrated with the
interview.
Bill (34:10):
Yes. And I will call her by the wrong name for the whole
interview.
Seth (34:14):
Okay. Yeah. You know, she deserves that. She deserves
better than both She of
Bill (34:18):
does deserve it. Like, why are you here?
Seth (34:19):
Why? She's like, why did I even come here? Yes. I think
that's gonna be pretty
Bill (34:23):
Are you here against your will?
Seth (34:24):
Yes. Yeah. We kidnapped her. Actually, she's she's in
the closet. But I think we cango to the point that actually
we're just really good peoplewho are honest about the fact
that sometimes being a goodperson involves being a piece of
shit.
Bill (34:41):
I'm just understanding that there is moments where you
are a piece of shit, and thisjust happens.
Seth (34:47):
Sometimes you sometimes you eat a whole tub of ice
cream. That's okay.
Bill (34:50):
I mean, that's pretty
Seth (34:51):
you shit your pants. That's okay. Is it? I don't
think anyone's ever shit theirpants quite like Bill Patrick's.
Can can we actually finish thisepisode?
Bill (35:03):
With my story?
Seth (35:04):
With your story?
Bill (35:05):
No. This is this We gotta save that for season two? Save
this one.
Seth (35:08):
Come on. Let's just lead in. We're we're here. It's now
Bill (35:11):
We could save it for, like, also five minutes left.
I'll try and tell this.
Seth (35:15):
So one Bill was once famous.
Bill (35:17):
Okay. So back in early Back
Seth (35:19):
in the early two thousand.
Bill (35:20):
Was playing in Argentina a lot. And one New Year's Eve, I
was playing in the city ofRosario, and it was fucking hot.
What? Hot summer? Yeah.
And there was this beautifulgirl in the crowd. Just, like,
beautiful brown skin, brownhair, just super sexy. I was
watching her the whole time Iwas playing.
Seth (35:38):
Snaggle 2,000.
Bill (35:39):
Little, like, little stupid little smirks thinking
I'm like the shit. I'm, youknow, I'm the headlining DJ at
New Year's.
Seth (35:45):
Does the the the shirt puff?
Bill (35:47):
So after the gig, I'm like, let me let me go talk to
my fans.
Seth (35:53):
Like, let me talk my minions.
Bill (35:55):
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I'm like And then waiting for me.
Yeah.
So she's there, and
Seth (35:58):
I see her.
Bill (35:59):
She was waiting. She was waiting. And so she's like, oh,
congratulations. You played sowell. This and that.
Thank you. Thank you. I waslike, would you like to come to
the after hours? I could you usea translator? I don't speak
Spanish, and I would love if youcan come and we can hang out.
And she's like, yeah. We'd lovethat. So we go to the after
hours. Oh my god. This is sovivid.
(36:22):
We go to the after hours and Iproceed to just push it. Yeah.
Everything.
Seth (36:29):
Copious amounts of everything. Everything.
Bill (36:31):
And it's hot. It's like Garbage
Seth (36:34):
garbage fan.
Bill (36:35):
It was it was Garbage
Seth (36:36):
fire hot.
Bill (36:36):
It was disgustingly hot. So I'm at this after hours, and
at some point, she's like, Ihave to go home
Seth (36:42):
Uh-huh.
Bill (36:42):
But I would love if we had dinner tomorrow, you came to my
house You're best part. And haddinner with me. And I was like,
yeah. Of course. I would lovethis.
This is for sure. Count me in.So me, an absolute fucking
delinquent, decided notthinking. Next thing I know, I I
continued after partying untilit was time to go to dinner the
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next night where I was like, ohmy god. I oh my god.
I haven't slept.
Seth (37:10):
I haven't showered. I have to go directly to her house.
Swagger. Full swag.
Bill (37:15):
I I rock up to the house, and her mother and Right? It's
her mom, her dad, her twosisters, her brother, and her
grandmother. And I'm sweating,drugged out, like, complete,
absolute like, who's thisfucking gringo? Who's that
(37:37):
outdoor? And I'm like, hi.
I'm here for dinner forAlejandra. Like, I'm Bill. Like,
absolutely zuded out. Andthey're like, yeah. Yeah.
Come in. Come in. So I walk in.There's a table, all this, like,
Argentinian meat, salad. I'm notfucking hungry at all.
(37:57):
Obviously. I'm can't eat afucking thing right now.
Seth (37:59):
No. No way.
Bill (38:00):
I got nobody in the family also spoke English.
Seth (38:03):
So Lots of nodding.
Bill (38:05):
Lots of just, like yeah. Again, so hot. No AC. No AC.
Just little fans.
Little tiny fans. Just like
Seth (38:14):
Little third little little third little fans.
Bill (38:16):
Here you go. He's sweating now, you fucking third leg.
Here's a little here you go.Cool off. Right?
And I just proceed to have apanic attack because I am in a
very uncomfortable position. Andthe next thing I know, I wake up
in another room. And I'm on achair in a empty room I come to,
(38:42):
and it's the whole family. Bill.Bill.
Bill. Bill.
Seth (38:45):
Bill. He's always said it with a sex ed. Bill.
Bill (38:47):
Bill. Bill. Bill. Are you okay? Bill.
I'm like, oh, wow. I must havefainted. And I'm like, oh no, I
You get I'm like, oh my god, howembarrassing, I farted. And then
I'm like, I move in the chairand I'm like, oh no. And I'm
wearing shorts.
Seth (39:07):
Whole family.
Bill (39:08):
Whole family.
Seth (39:09):
Whole Argentinian family.
Bill (39:10):
And I'm like, don't let Elbanyo. Don't let Elbanyo. And
they're like, what? And they'relike, up there. And I was like,
I'm running, holding my ass withduty coming down my leg.
Just carnage, absolute fuckingcarnage of diarrhea, disgusting.
(39:32):
And I'm running up the bat.There was a trail leading up to
the bathroom, and I shut thefucking bathroom door, and I'm
panicking. Like, I take my pantsoff. I'm like, Throw up in the
sink.
In the sink, not in the toilet.
Seth (39:49):
The sink is the sink control. And you gotta
Bill (39:51):
then Then I'm like, push this is the most disgusting
story. And at the time, I'mthinking to myself, you need to
die. Yeah. Like, you need
Seth (40:00):
only to way out of this is to The only to, like The only
way I'm getting out Right? Is to
Bill (40:05):
I'm like, she's knocking on the door. Bill, Bill, are you
okay? Do not open that door. Donot I was like, do not open the
fuck. I was like, don't don'topen the door.
And she's like, are you okay?I'm like, I'm a little sick, but
just give me some time. I endedup taking a shower, and there
was a moment where I saw thelittle window, and I was like,
if I jump out of this window,can I get like, how can I get
(40:27):
out of here with some dignity? Ican't face this family. The
grandmother?
Like, poor girl is also probablylike, like, who did you bring to
our fucking house? There's shitall over the place. Like, this
isn't coming out of the carpet.You know? Like, what did you do?
So I come out, and I'm like, I'mI'm just a shell of myself. I'm
(40:51):
so, like, broken. And she'slike, I brought you some shorts.
And then
Seth (40:55):
So she brings out little little pities little pitties.
Bill (40:57):
Well, her brother, who was, like, probably 50 lighter
than me, and it's, like, thesetiny little Argentina soccer
shorts that are, like, so
Seth (41:09):
small and little shorts.
Bill (41:11):
And I'm just, like, as if it couldn't get any here's a
little salt. Now just paradearound in your tiny tight ass
shorts.
Seth (41:19):
I remember you telling me, like, that you get out of the
bathroom, mom's cleaning thefloor. Yeah.
Bill (41:22):
It was it was Cleaning the curtain
Seth (41:25):
stains off this floor.
Bill (41:26):
No. I How did you
Seth (41:27):
get out, though? I forgot.
Bill (41:28):
We I I laid in her bed, and she was like, here's some
water. And I was like, do youhave a gun or something? Like,
can I just kill myself here?
Seth (41:37):
Do you have a
Bill (41:38):
gun? So I just remember her being so incredibly
understanding. I if that was me,I would've been like, get the
fuck out.
Seth (41:50):
With your family?
Bill (41:51):
Yeah. No. She was bless her heart. She was so
Seth (41:54):
sweet. Outs.
Bill (41:55):
Yeah. She was so sweet and understanding, and and I I kind
of just, like, left. I walkedout. No eye contact. I was like,
and then I I just went, and Iremember thinking to myself,
that sucked, but I can't wait totell my friends.
(42:15):
Like, this is gonna be a storythat I cannot wait. And that's
friendship.
Seth (42:19):
Yeah. That's real friendship.
Bill (42:21):
This is like
Seth (42:22):
how do you not low we're talking. Right? When you have
things like this happen in yourlife, as you should, if you're
experiencing life, if you'reexperiencing things, let your
friends in on the fun. Please.It's a joy.
Bill (42:35):
I wanna hear when at your lowest.
Seth (42:39):
That means love. If you call and tell me that story, it
means you love me.
Bill (42:43):
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Seth (42:44):
It's not little things. It's not gestures. It's not
tokens of appreciations. It'syou shitting your pants in front
of a whole family and thentelling me, and then years
later, bringing it up on camera
Bill (42:57):
Yeah.
Seth (42:57):
For many people to see. Yeah. And that's flirting with
friendship. That is. That is.
I love
Bill (43:01):
you, Bill. I love you too.
Seth (43:02):
Thank you. Thank you for coming on, and I can't wait for
Bill (43:05):
I can't wait to see guys come.
Seth (43:06):
Enjoy this fucking, The playground is open. Let's do it.
Let's go.
Bill (43:12):
Floating our friendship is produced by executive producers
Nikita Stanley, Jesse Rock,Craig Pettigrew, and Seth
Troxler. Seth is an EP. What?What's going on here? Their co
executive producer is Lee Adams.
Aaron Kulik is our liveproduction director. He's also a
VFX and motion graphicssupervisor. Our director of
photography is Lucas Treble. Heasked me to film this. You can
go watch it on YouTube, whichbrings me to Veronica Guessa,
(43:34):
our incredible set designer,also known as Mocchi Baby or
Mocchi.
Check our workout. It's reallyincredible. Again, watching on
YouTube. Our editor is TylerChristie. Our sound design and
original composition is byJasper Van Dyke.
Seth was our music supervisor.Wait a sec. No. He's not. I'm
pretty sure I was.
Not sure why Seth is getting allthese credits. Anyways, who
(43:55):
else? Our camera operator isJoseph Holton, a k a n y x. A
lot of nicknames here. Ourcamera assistant is Jake.
I don't know Jake's last name.Sorry about that, Jake. Our oh,
wait. It's Jake Smith. Ourproduction sound mixer is Joel
Yule.
And last but not least, bigthank you to our team at Kizzy
Music for all of our additionalmusic and to TV Store Paris for
their help in our set design.That is it. I'm out of here.
(44:16):
Bye.
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