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Would Brodie rather go camping with NASA Hussain or Michael
Atherton? Don't know how many people know
this actually. He's got no sense of smell when
he tries. Like he's not offended, but
everyone else. Is.
Remember, like Johnny Bester at Lords would be sat next to the
coffee machine, so if he's got naughty, don't go make yourself
coffee yet. I always love when the camera
pans to him like whatever the stage of the match is, a Test
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match or one day without his sunglasses on, lying back, feet
out. Does Brody love watching
Australia lose at all sports? This episode is brought to you
by Lathway. It's Get yourself a glass.
I have to get mine off the shelf.
You didn't help me out there, Jose.
But settle in and join us for the love of cricket and a good
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bottle of wine with Lathway. It's got a black stump for us
today, Jose. Fantastic Australia.
Should I pull myself first or isit?
Good for yourself and pass it over Do.
A little bit of that. This is another Q&A episode.
Jose won't let me pass that, won't put the lid.
Thank you very much. Which means our listeners have
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Got a bottle of Southeastern Australian Shiraz here, Jose.
Pretty famous. Great from that neck of the
woods. What do you think?
Dark in colour isn't it? It's a bit spicy I'd say.
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Quite punchy. Need a something good for a
Sunday roast maybe? What do you reckon?
Barbecue for me, Coles, red wine, chatting away to mates and
family. Very nice.
Sort of. That sounds good.
More on the wine in a little bit.
First questions from Dan. Great question actually.
If England could pick only fast bowlers from the past 25 years,
who would make the 11? Who would open the batting?
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Who would keep wicket? Let's start with should we go in
batting order? Who would open the bang?
Fast bowlers last 25 years. Fastball, OK, so we're kind of,
I'm going to discount sort of proper genuine all rounders
maybe Chris Woakes would obviously be, I'd say one of the
better batter. Oh, is that unfair?
Guys like him, Tim Bresnan, I'm thinking pretty steady batter
those. Do you think anyone averaging
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over 25, you've got a discount that's a genuine or and that's
like Stokes Flintoff? OK, if you're opening the bowl
in for England, like Woakes, you're in for.
So I think Woakes would definitely be one of the better
batters I can think of. I'd have had you up there before
you got hit in the head and that's sort of curtailed that
batting career. A listen.
Night night hawk option I have. I've had my pads on bat in three
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for England in recent times. 2022.
Yeah, I'm happy to take. Still an option.
And I take #9 spot. Yeah, you can take #9 of all the
bowlers you're still at number #9 I'm trying to think a little
bit far back. I also thought Goffy was quite a
decent batter, gave it a good whack.
It was like a ASICS cricket bat as well, like on 50.
Debut. Test debut.
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Didn't so I think Goffy could bein there.
Jim, Where's Jimmy? Batting in just the the bowl as
easy still, was he always #11 orhas he been up the order of he?
Could hold a bat, I. I just think Jimmy is our
longest standing #11 of all time, isn't he?
I feel like he. He deserves he.
Deserves to be #11 you know, he's better than that, but he
deserves to be #11 I think the worst batter I, I didn't play
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with, but I watched Leicestershire for a bit.
Alan Mullally, Do you remember? Alan Mullally, left arm swing
bowler or knit bowler? He played his last Test in Towns
and once that sort of counts he was he looked really bad.
He's a really bad of the Elevens.
No, I'm going to put in 10 because just because Jimmy only.
Keep Jimmy there. One of my favourite bowling
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batters would be Finney actually.
Stephen Finn, the Watford Wall. Did he call himself the Watford?
Wall don't know if that's self-proclaimed or if that came
after a sort of quite long vigilin New Zealand somewhere.
Virtually a day, I reckon. Yeah, so always fancied himself.
He would be a very big candidatefor kicking him.
Well, as well as the size of the.
Big pads. And he used to just plug that
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front leg down and it was quite a target.
But I think we could put him in at #3 just out of or.
Go for the most boring opening partnership of all time, Stephen
Finn in his Watford wall personaand Matthew Hoggard.
Matthew Hoggard just had no shots, did he?
She just looked. Yeah, it's not the most exciting
batting line. Just need.
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Some new ball. That yeah, see off the new ball
with them. Who else have we got?
Mark Wood is quite an exciting batter, so we could get Woody in
at #3. So it's really it.
Really does really up the tempo there's I think as as fast
bowlers go, his hitting the first ball he faces for six must
be quite up he's. Also the most nervous waiter to
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bat of all time. Yeah, most like literally can't
sit down, so get him out of the change room as early as you.
Can and one of those questions like catching and wicket
keeping. He definitely wouldn't be my
wicket. I think how annoying it'd be at
if you're stood at first slip all day with Woody keeping wit,
or how anxious the ball's wobbling now.
It's doing this. It's doing that.
Yeah, I think you need to keep him.
At fine leg. Out out fine leg mid on maybe
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just to give him someone to talkto, but you know he.
Could properly play Actually Steve Harmerson as a batter, he
could properly play. Properly play, it's a big shout.
He could, I know he probably averaged 12 but he hit lovely
shots. If it KG Rupardi goes about it,
just hits a beautiful cover drive and then just misses a
straight 1. Tommy was had a bit of talent
there, but I think his batting went off when he decided he had
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the same sponsor as Michael Vaughn.
So he thought what's the point of me taking pads?
I'll just use Vorneys. So I think his practice
deteriorated when he stopped taking pads on tour and that
hurt his batting a little bit. But I he, I definitely have him
at a six, you know, come in and take on the older ball.
Yeah, like it. Catching bowlers, good catchers.
Anyone that you can think of there?
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Jimmy Jimmy's. Probably Jimmy's the.
Best hands I've play because he could field in the slips gully.
And I just thought Jamie Overtonwould be a very good, I think he
would call himself an all rounder, which is is fair.
But he's played that one test, hasn't he so far for Wimbledon
and scored 97 or something like that?
Yeah, it's a very, very long ball as well.
So he'd be, he'd be up there forme.
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And it's a very, very good slip fielder.
So he's sort of ticking useful forces there.
Isn't it? But now we're building a team
that we want to actually go around and beat.
Beat people, aren't we? It's like an auction, but like
who are we paying the most moneyfor of these so.
Jamie O's your big hitter. Jamie, OI think would be who
else have I got to end anyone there?
Ollie Robb, he was a good slip fielder catch a good holder bat
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as well, so. So I weirdly just want to fill
my team with the worst, like just get bowled out in 10 O So
you know those league cricket scorecards you see sometimes
that like 8 all out yeah. What team could we get?
That could be 8. Who are the worst bat?
That would be a better question.Who are the worst batters you've
ever seen? But maybe.
Well, we need to pick a keeper. We haven't.
Picked a keeper for some reason.I want to see Finney with the
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glove some for some reason as well.
Just for pure comedy value. Who else could be a good keeper?
Simon Jones? Athletic, diving around.
He was a bit of a yeah. What's his bang like?
Steady. Steady, I remember him hitting
No 5, remember hitting like Warnie straight, a little bit
like bit sort of planty and justhit through the line strong, but
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not sure he had much. What's the right way of saying?
Touch, touch. He looked more of it.
Maybe That's not a great shout for keeping wicket then either.
I'll let you pick as the keeper and then we'll have our next
question. I think you sort of want to pick
Jimmy there as well. I think Jimmy there.
I think Jimmy might have to keepwicket and then he's going to
catch the most balls, the wicketkeeper so.
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Actually when he went to bowlingcoach, when he retired from from
England, that's how he would admit he'd have keeping gloves
on. He would just stand, stand
behind and natural. Yeah, he was always wanting to
do it and he was playing, but the physio never allowed him.
He was like, if you break a finger, I'm the one in trouble
here, so you're not allowed to do that.
They'd get sacked, wouldn't he, Jimmy?
Breaks. Jimmy's out for the season.
How he's done that. Oh, he's keeping to the bowlers.
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Yeah, great. Question from Kay What was it
like to play against England's now head coach Baz McCullum?
Against and yeah, for Baz and against Baz, Baz was quite
petrifying to bowl out. Actually had a couple of tough
experiences against him. A bit a bit like Rishabh panties
at the minute in the sense that whatever ball you bowl, you're
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not quite sure what's coming at you.
Highly talented player, ultra aggressive, but didn't just
slog. He he, he hit in his strengths.
And for me, 6 foot 6 into the pitch, he's quite short and he's
sort of hanged back leg side andalmost looked to cut me as as
often as he could. I got him out a couple of
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actually my second ever Test match at at Wellington.
He was one of my first wickets when Vaughan, he had called me
and Jimmy into the side and saidbring some energy.
I remember getting him out thereand I was, I was really excited
by that. But there was a couple of times
when he really got me. It was a brilliant moment at
Headingley which just summed up cricket for me.
I ran in first morning of the game, knit 1 back to Ross
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Taylor. He left it LBW middle and
middle, like complete celeb appeal.
Thanks for coming. Baz comes out exactly the same
ball, so I'll just repeat that because if I can nip it back to
him, happy days. Repeated it.
He charged me for six over extracover, like put my hands on my
hips a bit. First ball, first ball of his.
I was like, what? What on earth has just happened
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there? What's going on?
And the the the the toughest time was Wellington in a in A50
over game. It might have been a World Cup
game. He.
Didn't have to mention this one,did he?
And we, it was 2015. We got Tim Southey got 7 for 20.
We got rolled at swung. Actually we sort of nicked him.
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I can't remember exactly how we got it wasn't many, maybe 80 or
90. And then we had to go out and
bowl 10 overs before the the teebreaks were bowled out so quick.
And Baz just went into 20th gear, just went berserk.
And my first two overs he was just backing away and cutting me
into the stands. And then Finney replaced me and
he started going the same sort of treatment.
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So I think if you ask Baz, I think he quite liked tall
bowlers that try and hit the pitch.
Yeah, I meant that was one of the most sort of demoralising
losses. Wasn't that one in Wellington
where we he smacked us everywhere.
Then we had to go off for a 40 minute break and I think they
only needed ten to win or something at this stage, if
that. And he was on 70 odd off 20
something balls and who came outfour six game down like just.
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But I I always but as was someone I, you know, one of
those wicketkeeper batters, you always as my job in the team and
he looked up to him and he was quite a cool player.
I always thought quite he was one of those wicket keepers that
could pull off the short sleevesand the double sweat bands like
which is pretty unique to there's not many who can pull
that off and he. Alan Pirore.
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I think there's probably Baz maybe took over from keeping
wickets. So that might have been his his
influence. But I always felt Baz had a
quite a cool aura on the pitch, you know, for let's say it's not
necessarily a big guy or a big, but had a bit of a presence, you
know, as a keeper. He did when he was captain of
New Zealand, I think 2015 that World Cup, they were really
impressive, weren't in New Zealand.
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And he led that from from the front and the way he opened the
batting and that obviously smashed us everywhere in
Wellington And and just sort of I just remember thing that quite
inspiring, obviously great mateswith morgues and sort of how it
transpired for us in one day cricket from that.
But yeah, he was someone who washis box office one need to
amazing. So he was someone as a
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opposition player or as a if you're the captain, captaining
against someone like that, very dangerous, but new, would give
you a chance, but dangerous, dangerous player.
Didn't he get did he get 100 in the first ever IPL game?
Yeah, did yeah, 158 or something, like something
ridiculous in the first ever IPLmatch.
Yeah, which you can imagine how much that changes your world.
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Something like something like that coming along and etched in
history. There it was.
That's very outrageous, isn't it?
In the first ever IPO game, something like that to.
Happen. I do class it as very lucky.
I know this is play against him,but I do think English cricket's
very lucky to have his mindset and aura come into it actually.
Because Harry, Brooke, Jamie Smith, all these young guys are
learning how he operated and howhe did it, how he thought.
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And you know, Baz won't be coachhere for 10 years, but they will
carry that through for the rest of their career.
I think we are lucky to to have him.
Yeah, I always love when the camera pans to him like whatever
the stage of the match is a Testmatch or one day without his
sunglasses on, lying back, feet up.
And it just that like say that or or that sort of personality
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that he pushes out from himself to everyone else.
Just it's like as you living thedream would always say what a
gig, like just living the dream.And it keeps everywhere very
level and very relaxed and really focused.
And that, like I said, I think is obviously it's rubbed off
Stokes, McCullum and now into the whiteboard stuff, Harry,
Brooke and that kind of thing. So yeah, we there's a lot of
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love for bats here in this this Q&A episode.
Mr. Dodge, Jose wants to know what's your morning routine?
Wow. My morning routine is started by
my eldest, Georgia I. Was gonna say this is gonna be
different being at home to hotel.
Yeah, so, well, I'm gonna give you the home version at the
moment. So we've carnage.
We've got a very early riser. Our eldest Gigi loves sort of
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something starting with a 5. So she usually comes in and and
taps one of us on the head and it's like, and it's no, it's not
morning time, get back to bed, but in the sea.
Got one nice clock glow. Colour.
Yeah, they don't work. I don't we've got grow clock,
we've got Sam the sheep. He does this.
We've tried them all. So if anyone else has got like
blinds to a lot like so yeah, 5:00 she comes in, we try and
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send her back to go and read some books for a bit.
And then it's sort of around 6:15, Charlie the baby starts
making a few wines. So in there that one of those
posh like baby milk machines that's like a little morning
coffee for him. So we get him up, get some milk
into him, then we're downstairs for an array of cereals.
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They like to get them all out onthe table and sort of, they
don't just want Cheerios in the bowl, they want Cheerios and the
Special K and, and there's someone special 1, I don't know
what they call like numbers and letters that go in there as
well. So there's a real mixture of
cereals going on. And so yeah, I'm just sort of
battling my way through the morning until I can get them in
the car and out the way onto school and nursery.
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That's kind of the morning routine.
But otherwise, in the IPO, this kind of isn't a morning routine.
It starts at 4:00 AM when you goto sleep.
Yeah. And then people wouldn't know
that in the afternoon. Yeah.
So because the games are always so late, 730 start, training's
always late as well. We train for a long time, not
getting back to the hotel by sort of midnight, 12:30,
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something like that. And you're always a bit, still
got quite a lot of adrenaline orwhatever and stuff from
training. So sometimes even do gym at that
kind of time when you come back from training like 1 in the
morning and then have a feed andgenerally go to sleep about 4:00
AM and then you're actually waking up around midday just
after crucial. Do not disturb for the cleaners.
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Yeah, if you don't, if you get to put that on, that can be
quite painful. And sometimes even take the
phone off the hook as well because it might just get that
call through. But yeah, there's sort of that
your times just completely flip in the IPL that you are not
nocturnal. But you know, the some of the
West Indies boys. Absolutely.
Are they? You know, Chiffane Rutherford
was telling me he goes to bed atabout 7:30 and then wakes up at
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5:00 to get on the bus to go to the ground.
And it's like, so he's almost not seeing daylight.
But yeah, So that routine. But yeah, I'd be up, eat
something into the gym for a stretch, maybe have a swim and
then into the day. So yeah, they look quite
different on tour or at home with the kids.
You coffee's got to take place in there somewhere.
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It's pretty well in the morning routine.
I think I'm the similar with twokids similar to you, 2 1/2 yard
and a six month old. The first two hours of my day,
nothing for me, nothing. I'm scrambling around getting
them in the car, charging about and then but Test match days,
you get the comms wrote to the night before and the running
order. So that's tells you how the sort
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of build up one or two is going to go and what footage we're
looking to use. So you start engaging with that
the night before a little bit. Then morning of a game, I like
to get to the ground at sort of half 8-9 gives you the chance to
go onto the TV screens and figure out exactly what footage
is coming away or build some footage of what lengths are
bowls are bowling, chatting to the the sort of engineers in the
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trucks or back at at sky and Isleworth.
And then you go on air at 10 day1/10/15 for the rest of the rest
of the Test match. And before that you're pre
recording interviews with players.
So you're sort of hanging aroundfor when the players arrive or
you know, you're completely on their time with that sort of
thing and just structuring your sort of mind for the day really.
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But a lot more relaxed than whenI was playing.
Yeah, absolutely. What's next?
Yeah, so a little sip of our wine show.
We've got a southeastern Australian Shiraz, very famous,
great from that neck of the woods.
You must have some lovely memories of Adelaide.
Yeah, good memories. 2022 is theone that stands out.
We chased down 180 odd, I think Nundown, me and Alex Hales put
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together a great partnership that semi final against India in
the T20 World Cup that we went on to win the final at Melbourne
against Pakistan. So yeah, Adelaide, amazing
ground isn't it? It's one of the best sort of
redevelopments and that sort of walk across the river and TAD is
awesome, isn't it, I? Just like that.
I love that because you come sort of underneath the stand to
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then walk up, morning of the game, walk up onto the pitch.
And as you walk up that tunnel and you look at the state, the
stadium, you've got that old scoreboard with loads of history
where everyone says Bradman could hit it off the back foot
into it, you know, which is like160 meters.
It can't have happened. But yeah, wonderful.
Like, you know, there's so much history at that ground, but also
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they've modernized it in such a stylish way.
So yeah, spectacular place to play.
And I'm right in saying, buddy, this is the one of the wines
that goes in our For the Love ofCricket wine case with Lathways.
You're right. Yeah, you can buy it from
lathways.co.uk. Actually.
We'll put the link in this episode description.
Also the link in our Instagram bio.
This is the second bottle we hada New Zealand Sauvignon Blanc
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and the last one we'll be able to get 6 in the case and we'll
be showcasing which other wines will come over the next few
months. Seem to remember you making a
joke. Well I hope it was a joke that
for the love of cricket case of wine would be 10% off and you
just sort of brandished it out there.
I've got some news for. You don't tell me it's more than
10%. 25% off. 25%, I've given ita gig in it.
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I think it's too much, but getting there early, well, it's
still 25%. So what's that work out for a
bottle of wine? What's that?
About 999 a bottle which. Wonderful value.
Good value, isn't it? So pour yourself a few more
glasses. Question from Nikki, What's it
like when a batter comes back tothe dressing room having scored
no runs? How do you help them out?
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What's your reaction? You know from your point of
view, not theirs. The duck, Yeah, I remember as a
kid watching that, like, duck walk off the batter, don't you?
On the TV? It's a bit of a scramble, isn't
it? First thing, because you
obviously lost two and two pretty quickly if a new bat has
gone for a duck. So there's batters running
around, scrambling for pads. Some, you know, getting their
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whites on, figuring out exactly,getting their mindset right of
when they might be batting, trying to focus in on it.
So I've certainly been in that position where there's pads
flying around everywhere. Then generally you have to give
the batter who's just got out a little bit of space.
I was going to say, how do you when do you time that hard?
Luck, I make no eye contact because I always used to find
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painful when you lose a wicket, but reactions of that is quite
funny at times. You know, especially if they
start getting angry at themselves so throwing the bats
or the helmets start flying or started like abusing coffee
machines and stuff. So I I had to, if I was getting
ready, I had to make sure I was looking at the floor a lot.
Time and it was worse if you just looked up and caught a
little bit of the the blow up. But not everyone would blow up
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obviously. But yeah, I think you need to
give the batter space. The last thing you want to do
remember, like Johnny Bairstow at Lord's would be sat next to
the coffee machine. So if he's got naughty, don't go
make yourself a coffee yet. Like give that 1520 minutes.
Give him space. So sort of appreciate how
everyone else deals with someonelike Zach Crawley.
Honestly he is in his training kit in 30 seconds.
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After he's got out, he comes in,pads off, wipes off training
kit, glasses on on the balcony. I was think how's he done that
so. Quick.
He was batting a minute, yeah. He was batting a minute ago, so
everyone deals with it slightly differently.
You get some batters who come instraight to the laptop studying
everything to see, oh, that was a good ball on it.
That's a good ball. Got the guys who are never out,
aren't they? There's like.
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How's he caught that? How's he caught his fault?
Oh how, how lucky am I? The field are there, you know,
all that sort of stuff and you have to at that point there is
no point going well because there's a field of that mate,
you know, you can't dive into any of that.
You just have to be really empathetic and gosh, yes, I'm
lucky mate, don't worry about it, you'll be all right.
All that sort of thing. But I think it's very different
when you get naughty because you're a bit embarrassed, aren't
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you? First of all, you're a bit like
I was when I get I never used tolike looking at a big screen on
my walk off because I know I'm out like don't want to see it
again. And the same you get back into
the change room, there's normally two TV's on either side
of the changing room. So you dismiss was being
replayed like 5 times and you'rejust staring at it the whole
time. God I really am that bad at
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batting first up. So there's I try and then take
my pads off and not look at the telly and just take myself away
for a few minutes. But I never really got that
angry. I'm trying to.
I actually think there's A at the time I got out, I can't
imagine or remember, sorry exactly who it was against, but
someone had made me a cup of teaas I was 2 wickets away from
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going in. So this cup of tea, bang, flurry
of wickets or one wicket, I'm inout first or second ball and
come back in and I'm, I'm padding and I'm like that tea's
still, I can get back into my cup of tea and that.
And then just you've got to findsome way of humour.
I think when you've out for a duck or you know, you're gutted,
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aren't you? You're disappointed.
You've practiced all week and you go out and score no runs and
exactly that. You spoke about like people
padding up and they're sort of on egg shells around you and
like, is he going to throw something?
Is he going to randomly swear orshout at someone or throw
something at the TV? But you're also conscious of
that when you're the batter. Like I think people used to do
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it more. I think that that sort of blow
up or whatever. And then out of sort of respect
for, you know, someone else is actually getting ready and
they've got to go and bat and dowell and prepare.
Actually, if you're going to do that, maybe take yourself off to
some of the grounds, have a gym close by, don't they?
People go into the gym and burn off a bit of energy there or
some like that. So you are a bit conscious of of
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the others when when you we are wallowing in your yourself
pitch. We ever seen that clip of Warner
in Sri Lanka? I think it is, You know, the
water bottles you get that have the plastic sort of thing
covering that you can't get off and you never be able to get
off. No one can get them off, even if
you've not even just got out in 50° and he's there, just got out
trying to take this plastic cover off the lid to open a
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bottle and he can't do it. And he ends up just like logging
the water. Like I love that.
So we actually Ashes in Brisbane, I think it was 2011.
I was, Strauss was in the court,Andrew Strauss.
Matt Pryor sat next to him. I was sat next to Matt Pryor
morning. I think it must have been day
one or whatever. Obviously excited about the
series, get into it, all that sort of thing.
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And Strauss got a second ball, duck prior first ball, me first
ball. So our corner of the change
room, three of us, no runs, 4 balls.
At the end of the day, we just sort of sat quietly looking at
the floor. A big Straussie sort of looked
at all of us went. Could have gone better that one.
Let's move on. We now have a question from
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Jamie. Did you get A levels or had you
given up on school by then to focus on cricket?
Yeah, no, I did get A level, sure.
I, I certainly, it was actually after leaving school I started
playing at, I played a couple ofgames of second team cricket for
Leicestershire, went to Australia as a gap year and then
my cricket started to move on. I had a bit of a growth spurt
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and and that's when I played first class cricket the
following summer. But I did get A levels.
It feels a long time ago now. I actually can't remember.
What he studied. Study which is awful to say.
Didn't do university, I told youdo.
You know, I was going to go to Durham.
I was all sort of signed up and not signed up, but that was my
my target. And then Leicester sure offered
me a professional contract at the end of that summer, almost
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like an Academy contract, but but to join the staff, get a
shirt number and all that sort of thing.
So I was, I was dead set on that.
I was so excited to to do that. But I would have gone to uni if
Leicester she hadn't have have offered me something at the end
of that summer. But yeah, what did I study?
Gosh, there's definitely some sort of business studies in
there. Be business studies in PE, isn't
it probably PE in there so I. Certainly wasn't your your
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English or histories or maths. I feel like I got 3 BS take it.
But it felt a big thing at the time.
But now I'm 39, it didn't. Yeah, I think your cricket
career probably covered that up,didn't it?
So there I actually got 2A levels.
I just did business and PE and Iremember sort of I only did
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three at the sort of 6/1 or as level and then dropped, dropped
by a free. Time going on there.
Yes. And that I sort of was very
tactile in how I put together my, you know, I sort of said
I've got cricket sessions here or here and I managed to get all
my lessons only ever in the mornings.
So I had every afternoon off at which is of your management in
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6-2 at school, which was a a great effort.
So I was down the county ground or I'd be just chilling in my
room watching a few films in theafternoon and had nothing to do
in the afternoon. So I felt like I did uni in in
six two to be honest. Surely all your mates hated you?
You're like, I'm just off to theNets.
What if you go? I've got maths, double maths.
Great. Double maths, that was me.
I've got nothing, lads. Anyone want to play football?
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Yeah, exactly. Anyone got PlayStation?
Any trouble to play against? So I was quite proud of that.
And then the way I managed to sort of manoeuvre myself out of,
because I got my time towards, oh, if I change this and get
always afternoons off. And so I swapped a few classes,
got into a different set for business studies I think just.
And we had school on Saturdays at King's College in Taunton
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where I was. So I managed to make sure I had
no lessons on a Saturday as well, which was so I just had
sport in the afternoon, so I hadthe dream of of all timetables.
Might be the greatest manipulation I've ever.
Heard, yeah. And no, no university didn't
even bother with the UCAS form. I just thought I can do that
after if cricket doesn't work out, I'll try and I'll do that
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after. So I just went a bit like you,
got offered a summer contract with Somerset and yeah, went
straight from school into livingon the flats at the ground and
living the dream for playing forSomerset so.
I actually remember I got off ofthe contract and got, I think
there's a PC at the time. Although certainly if you ever
get off a contract, don't sign it there and then because you
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don't, you've not read it, you don't know what's in it.
So I got it, tried to play it cool, got in my car, I was
driving back to my mum's near Melton Mowbray and I had to pull
in to like a lay by and call my mum.
I was like, they've offered me acontract, I've not fully read it
yet but I want to sign it. And she's, I remember quite
clearly saying you've got to do what you feel right.
I actually think you should go down this route and treat it as
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an apprenticeship and if it doesn't work out in a couple of
years, you can then go to uni and do your thing after.
But if you go to uni you might fall behind.
If you're 2223 coming out, thinkof the learning you've done in
cricket in the next 5 years. I remember clear as day she sort
of said that when I was stood ina labour on the phone and got
home. She had a quick read through
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sign away and it, yeah it was like amazing feeling like that
Leicestershire headed paper. I was like, wow, yeah, it was
wicked. Right.
Come on, let's route through a few more of these.
Question from James. What's the best innings that
you've ever witnessed from the other end?
A few actually, I'd say the one that's in my mind the most.
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Stokesy Ben Stokes Lords 2023 Australia.
It was all that I replaced Johnny with the mad run out.
I came out and Stokesy just wentinto not slog mode.
It was just like art, you know, dot .6, dot .6.
He got 100 and 506070. Whatever he got, I was at the
other end. And the way he marshaled me, it
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was he'd face four and always leave me, you know, either one
or two. And he did it with such ease.
And, and when he was hitting theball, like to old Father Time,
it was going miles back. He was properly flying and you
know, he got Stark, Hazel Cummings, all 8590 miles an hour
and he was just drilling them. So that's what I enjoyed the
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most because he was so calm. He was like, if I run one, you
run one, if I run 2, you run two.
If I don't move, you don't move,don't speak to me, you keep
doing anything, keep annoying the Aussies, all this sort of
stuff. And he was just in that mode.
So that was probably probably the most enjoyable and it was
probably the most recent for me.So that was great fun.
You must have had a few at the other end.
I'm trying to think. Oh, you're doing the damage.
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Well, trying to think of if yourown.
Morgan's played a couple of great innings I can think of
when I've been at the other end,not always at the other end for
the whole entirety of the inning.
Remember he got we lost the game, but an incredible 100 at
Sydney actually, who's sort of aonly man standing kind of
innings. I batted with him for a little
bit in that one fantastic knock.Trying to think about some of my
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favorite innings I've ever witnessed.
I wasn't at the other end, but Jason Roy at Melbourne 180 I
think he got and again that thatsort of bowling attack that you
know, much talked about * Cummings, Hazelwood, Jace had
this amazing ability against high pace and like top like he
elevated his game and he the more they took him on with
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aggression or pace, the more he would take it on as well.
And you know, Melbourne's big ground but and we were chasing
the decent score, but he was smacking it to all parts and
brilliant on the short ball. And I think anytime you see fast
bowlers bowling short against someone who's really strong on
that delivery, it's just amazingwatching.
And yeah, that would be one of the my favourite innings that
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I've I've ever witnessed a. Question from Emma, the 63 shirt
that you wear, is that somethingyou had as a kid at Somerset or
is that is there a specific reason you chose that?
No, it's not. Actually.
It's the first number I was evergiven for England.
So, and then when you play for England Lions or England A-Team,
as is, everyone's given a numberand it's just randoms.
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And I was given the number 63. And at that stage I thought, oh,
maybe it's quite cool to get a different number for each
different team I play for. So I was #15 at, at Somerset got
the number 63 with England. And then it, it goes into the,
you know, when you do play for the main team, you take that
number with you and, and naturally all the sort of best
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numbers from, you know, sort of the football.
I always think of numbers and stuff, but like, you know, the
iconic #8 so you had #8 so no one can take that shirt #9 is
Jimmy Anderson #7 was Ian Bell. I think when I so all the sort
of real big numbers are gone andI start and I just thought maybe
it's quite nice to keep this number and I really like and
63's been something that I've just never wanted to change.
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I've played with a few guys who've changed their England
number when their sort of favorite numbers become
available, but I've just sort ofstuck with it.
And I did go through a phase of wanting different shirts numbers
for different teams. I remember wearing 39 for
Melbourne Renegades for no reason than Nicholas and Elka
wore 39 and no one really knew what that was like.
First England #39 that's the onethat was given to me, yeah.
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There you go. So but then now 63's sort of
become, you know, my number and each team will franchise that
I'd go and play for. I want to play that.
But no, it was, it wasn't chosen.
It was given to me and I thoughtif that's the number I've been
given, I liked it and I just stuck with it.
So how the England shirt numberswork, you have to have not
played for three years for your shirt number to become available
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unless you retire from the format and then that shirt
number becomes available. And then every year, I think at
the start of the cricket season,players get an e-mail of
available shirt numbers of what you you can select.
And you have to, if someone, they might e-mail you back, say,
oh, you both want #2 have a chattip #1's always been the one
that it's quite a difficult one to choose, I think, isn't it?
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That is captain and captain onlyin my opinion.
Is there a number one who is? I don't think there is.
I remember Nick Knight was #1 wasn't he?
Has anyone taken #8? Not that I know about.
Who did you take the number 8 shirt from?
I took it off coffee just because you're a legend.
You've told me that before. Right.
Let's see that question from Josh.
Yeah, does Brodie love watching Australia lose at all sports?
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Are you cheering on the Lions Down Under?
Would you Boo an Aussie tennis player at Wimbledon?
No, no. Do I like watching Australia
lose? I I quite enjoyed the World Test
Championship final only because I was part of the South African
set up for a bit of time. But no, I love, I mean,
ultimately I think when you playagainst Australia that much, you
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have a huge respect for their competitiveness, their drive,
their love of of sports, how passionate the fans are at their
sport. So I think actually my love hate
relationship with Australia is, is out of respect a little bit
as well. You know, I love that.
Don't get me wrong. If it was a English versus
Aussie at the Wimbledon final, I'd want the English to win, you
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know, probably for Norris to winover Piastry for McLaren in the
F1. But I think that's born out of
my history growing up watching Ash's cricket, England versus
Australia, that rivalry. So Ash's, yeah.
Will I be cheering on the lines down under?
Absolutely. But no, I, I certainly I don't
have any, what's the right word,like vengeance or anything
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towards Australia. You're still English and you
want yeah, Australia. In Australia you're losing.
But like you say, mostly becausethey're generally quite good and
you want good teams to lose whenthey're.
Yeah, and I have massive respectfor them as well.
Like when they won in our Med about the 23 World Cup final,
that just looked All India, didn't it?
So like this is made for India to win it home patch.
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And they went on and did the most Australian thing ever, like
won the toss and bowled when everyone was saying they should
bat Chase Travis Head hundred. Yeah, that's just, that's what
Aussies do. They just find a way to be in
the contest all the time and andI really respect that.
Another question from Ed Would Brody rather go camping with
NASA Hussain or Michael Atherton?
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Neither. Neither.
That's it. Let's move on, I.
Probably need to explain that because both legends like both
great guys but not not. Camping legends, are they?
NASA hates socialising so there's no way that you want to
be stuck in a tent with him for for the evening.
You know is is is is not someonewho who wants a small talk and
AF. I don't know how many people
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know this actually got no sense of smell, which means when he
what, how can? I say is this that could be a
plus for this camping? Trip but when he tries, he's
like, he's not offended, but everyone else.
Is. I didn't think you'd get that in
the. Comes Box, he just fires away
and like everyone's on the floorchoking and he just carries on.
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So I think that's quite difficult to cope with and I
imagine in a tent that would that would be, it would be.
Difficult. So you're taking NASA camping
just because of Atherton's dodgyguts?
Yeah, fair enough. Yeah, can't argue with that.
Brilliant. You've done, Ameritrade.
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Oh gosh. I don't know if that's common
knowledge though, Is it? Probably not, I don't think.
He comes on at 10:15 and goes. Good morning everyone.
I can't smell the smell of this commentary box, so hard luck
whoever's on colour, but I thinkyou've just outed him terribly
there. But yeah, there you go, Learn
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something new every day. Ellie's asked what's Joss's top
five cricket grounds in the world.
I reckon we should try and do a joint top five, so we have to
sort of haggle our way in for best grounds.
Trent Bridge. Not in mine.
What Trent Bridge? Not in mine, no gotta be of all
the grounds in the world in Trent Bridge.
Let's start with like some guaranteed Lords.
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Oh wow, this is going to be Thiscould be a long.
Question Yeah. Lords.
Lords has to be in Homer cricketas a player.
Just the most sort of magical experience.
I think the pitch is a bit too slow for really exciting cricket
currently. It's still Lord, it's got to be
in there, have put Cape Town. 100% yeah.
Best view in world cricket. Got to be.
Isn't it great? City English supports as
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outrageous. Amazing, isn't it?
I want to say SCG is that I've. Got Sydney.
I've put Sydney down and for me is what I like that ground just
because of one particular game that we won there in 2018.
It's probably the best I've feltlike I've ever battered actually
in that match and that was to win the series.
So that was one reason for a personal level to put that one
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in. Now I've got a bit of outside.
Here is Dharamshala in India. Do you know what?
I don't think I've ever. Been never played that
incredibly picturesque, beautiful ground at the bottom
of the Himalayas and just because I think it's just one of
the prettiest and unique cricketgrounds I've ever played out.
So that you fly in there in the snow capped mountains and yeah,
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it's that's windy kind of it's sort of almost in I think you
are almost in Nepal or Tibet or one of the and it's yes,
stunning ground, pretty cool experience.
So. I'll agree with my mum flew out
to watch Jimmy's 700th Test wicket actually so, and she
found the place astonishingly. Oh, really?
Yeah, I'll. Put that in the top so we're 4.
Four, you're desperate to try and get Trent.
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Bridge I would like, I'm sure. 15 must be a part big part of
that as well. Maybe or just because?
Not it's just my home. I was there from like 4 years
old watching dad play. But I know this is a joint list.
There's some pretty, I mean, Bridgetown, Barbados has got
quite a bit of history and character to it and updated for
the 2007 World Cup. Any other country, I mean the
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one Katie you've played a lot at.
Yeah, I'd actually have that down for me with one of my and
again for me, I'm going like favorite grounds because of
favorite memories. We chased 230.
I think that South Africa game. I was at Cheltenham.
Actually, you win any winners I.Was at Cheltenham, we ended up
watching the telly, watching thecricket.
It was a it was a hell of a game.
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It was and remember we were chasing 230 whatever Trevor
Bayless lads, Just remember you don't need to go at 12 and over
from the outset. You know we can win it in the
last five overs of Jason Moy, Alex Hales 50 for 9 off 2 overs.
It's like Dale staying going to all parts.
It was amazing. So that would be just one.
I just love that ground for for that reason as well.
But there's some some great onesin the in the world get, you
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know, for any that we've missed,I'm sure there's probably some
favorite. People let us know, won't they?
So we're going to go. Lords, Cape Town SCG, Sydney,
Durham, Charlotte in Darmeshire.Oh, you aren't?
Well, I'll give you Trent Bridge.
So we just got one in India, butI'd have Durham, Charlotte just
because it's unique. OK, you can have.
One Katie slash Trent Bridge. So you said Durham.
Charlotte's one of your mum's favorite grounds, but you
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retired by then and she'd gone out on tour just on her own for
the for the love of cricket, for.
The love of cricket, yeah. Should we get her on interview?
Why are you still touring, watching England?
You know, I've retired. No, she loves it.
Yeah, she's, she's she went out to, I think 2, two or three
Tests in India on that tour. And I was getting loads of
pictures of Jimmy running into bowl.
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It's like I'm watching on the telemat.
You know. She was buzzing to see his 700th
Sat next to his dad, actually. So like, they, they've got this,
you know, the parents are all close, aren't they?
They sort of go through the sameemotions and go out for dinners
during Test matches and. I think particularly my mum's,
the Routies, the Andersons, the cookies, you know, parents she
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spent a lot of time with. So yeah, she's still, she's
still, she's. Down Under.
She's going to the Ashes, yeah, She's not doing the first two
and then she's doing the Christmas New Year, I think
maybe Adelaide as well. So just just.
Loves it. Tourist.
Tourist. So that's it.
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