September 22, 2025 • 42 mins
Jos and Broady are back with a glass of Laithwaites wine in their hands answering all of your questions!
Why did Broady once dress as a milkman outside Tower Bridge in London? Who are the lads next 'Fab Four' of batters?
And of course, what is Jos's late night guilty pleasure?
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Late at night. I do have a guilty pleasure of.
Do you? Yeah, I'd really enjoy it.
Pick that. Who do you think will be the
next fab for? Shubman Gill's gotta be in that
conversation. I'm not deliberately not
mentioning in Australia, if you owned a franchise team, where
would it be based and what wouldthey be called?
We are gonna be based in Barcelona, we're gonna be called
Ticky Tacker. I've got bloody IB 3 this
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weekend either. What is the cringiest, worst
sponsored gig you've had to do? I.
Once had to dress as a milkman. I've had a naked photo shoot
with Alistair Cook. This is Sir Alistair Cook and
Sir Jimmy Anderson. This episode is brought to you
by Lathwaites. Pour yourself a glass, settle in
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and join us. For the love of cricket and a
good bottle of wine with Lathwaites since I'm Stuart
Broad and I'm joined by Josh Butler.
And we've had thousands of questions.
Jose, we've also got a glass of the gooseberry Bush to enjoy
South African Sav Blanc. I'll pour you a glass.
Thank you. Imagine it's got a little smell
or taste of gooseberry. There's.
No hint of, it's a. Strange name if it hasn't got a
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bit of gooseberry in it. Oh, it's nice, fresh and zingy.
I'd say Zingy, but what does theexpert think?
Really milk in that aren't I really enjoy.
It as you should. Yeah, lovely, beautiful, right?
Let's get stuck into it. So we've had loads of questions,
naturally, Jose. And the one that has been
repeated the most from so many different listeners and viewers
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is will Joe Root score 100 in Australia in the Ashes?
He's got a great record in in Ashes Cricket overall.
He's got a decent record in Australia, mid 30s, but he
hasn't scored 100. Will he break that?
What's it's not even a curse is it?
Will he just get over the line? I'd be very surprised if he
doesn't. I think absolutely he will, and
I'm going to say he'll score more than 100 in the Ashes this
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winter. Yeah, I, I tend to agree.
He looks great. He looked in great form doing it
against I3 back-to-back, hundreds to finish.
I think it's just he toured, they're very young, got left out
of Sydney. He also toured in that COVID
series, which was so much on hisplate as captain.
He also had, he was sort of, I want to say 5060 night out of
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Sydney one year when he got heatstroke and and missed the last
day. So just hasn't quite worked for
him. But no, I'm I'm absolutely.
And let's be honest, if he doesn't, England aren't going to
go overly well, aren't they? No, no, he's obviously he's he's
going to be a vital player in that series.
But let's just think England arein a good place.
He's in a great place. He's scored what, 39 Test
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hundreds and since COVID he's scored 20 something as well.
So he's obviously in great form and great know how of how to
score hundreds and Australia trying to keep him quiet will be
a big challenge for them. But absolutely, I think he's
just in a place in his game where you know he's, I'd be
very, very surprised if he didn't score 100 in five Test
matches. Does he does he outscore Steve
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Smith, do you think? Well, obviously I hope so, yeah.
But I think that would be for me.
I I, there's lots of themes obviously throughout it, but I
think four and five of Root and Brooke against Smith and Head
is, is a really exciting match up.
I think, and especially the way those sort of Root and Smith,
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the more traditional test playerdone it for so long and Head and
Brooke are quite sort of take the game away from you can be
really expansive. So I think that is a real
exciting part of a subplot of the series.
Let's move on to another one question from Laura Rolls on
Instagram. Not that this will apply to you
anymore broadly, but the dietitian has had the night off
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and you can eat whatever you want with 0 consequences.
What are you getting? Love my pan Asian type food.
Obviously my ultimate. I love a Sunday roast in a pub.
Wedging, starter, main dessert, bang away we go.
Even finished with cheese and biscuits, away we go.
Roast beef, Yorkshire puddings, as many roast potatoes as you
could possibly get gravy on the side so you can sort of measure
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it yourself, you know? I don't want to get poured over
it. Don't want too little, don't
want too much gravy. It's all individual preference,
so that would be. Food dietitian be all right with
that and vegetables, wouldn't they?
Yeah, a few little parsnips on the side or something, but I
think my favorite meal out with Molly would be like a pan Asian
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spicy tuna roll, bit of sashimi,nip into a bit of black cod.
Maybe there's a like a Marmite chicken thing that a restaurant
does in in London and finish with one of those chocolate
brownies that melts in the middle with a bit of vanilla ice
cream. You know, so you it's hot in the
middle and you're wedging and the ice cream starts melting
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around. One each or two spoons and a a
share at that stage of E meal. Now I'm retired, so one each in
it. So one each.
And actually Molly only gets halfway through, so I'll Polish
the rest of that off. So one and a half, 1 1/2.
But what about you? I know you're very strict on
your or focused on your fitness and diet and stuff, but you're a
bit of a foodie. A bit of a foodie.
You've got a very sweet tooth. Love chocolate, so that's always
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a a big challenge, especially Mcvitie's chocolate digestive
biscuits. They are one of my favourites
actually. Guilty pleasure of playing
cricket in England is motorway service stations, so if I'm
trying to be good, pick that. Yeah, actually.
What's your guilty pleasure motorway service?
Stations being able to break up my journey.
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Actually recently Donnington is was a recent, I love an M&S in
there. So I'm in for try and sort of
be, I don't know, with a pasta or a rat, but then it's the
Percy pigs and it's they do these cheese like wrapped in
chorizo. So hammer them in as well.
And then late at night, I do have a guilty pleasure of a
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McDonald's. Do you?
Yeah, I'd really enjoy it. McDonald's 1/4 pounder with
cheese, large fries and then a few Mcnuggets.
Just to so you just keep it basic.
It kind of yeah, very basic, butI just gets me through the next
half an hour of my journey is eating and then I'm like I'm
nearly there. So I do enjoy stopping at the
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services and the county grind that is, It's quite interesting,
the county grind. We played a game, I think we
were heading to Northampton or somewhere recently and Lanks
boys are straight off the bus and it's like lunchtime on a
Friday, straight into the KFC. And I thought, yeah, for lunch,
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I thought we asked, pushing it abit like, you know, 11:00 at
night after a game. I could maybe, and it's the only
option, but I did pull myself away from KFC at that stage.
But yeah, I don't mind. That's my guilty pleasure, I'd
say. Always surprised me.
Stokes who? Ben Stokes, obviously a couple
of things would surprise me. I'd expect him like for a coffee
order to be just get me three shots of espresso and down we
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go. But it was always a vanilla
latte with extra frothy milk anda little, a little sweetener
here and that type of there. And his McDonald's order, you
know, the whatever scenario you'd be in and he'd be like,
right, Was he having OK, a Big Mac, Big Mac fillet fish?
What? I know.
Fillet fish. What do you mean now?
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Probably like 3 of them. And that would be, and that
always freaked me out a little bit as Stokes would have a
fillet fish with McDonald's whenyou're when everyone's ordering
like 10 big hats. But yeah, yeah.
So I'd say yeah, me, Pan Asia, new Maccas.
Let's move on. Question from Stu on Facebook.
It's actually for me, yeah. It's one for you, Jose.
If you owned a franchise team, I'm assuming we mean cricket,
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but you could go out to be NFL or football.
If you can, you can broaden thisout to whatever you want.
Where would it be based and whatwould they be called?
My franchise team, I'm going to base them in Barcelona.
What league do you want to be? What do you want to be NFLIP?
L No, no, it's got to be a cricket team.
But we're actually, we're going to play in the 100 but we're
actually based in Barcelona. So we just fly in, fly in for
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the games and it's a pretty niceaway trip for the seven other
sides isn't it? So we are going to be based in
Barcelona, we're going to be called Ticky Tacker.
With the red, red and blue stripe.
Yeah, yeah, real Catalan kind ofvibes really.
This is a nod to my football manager, Jose Boutliere.
That's where I'm sort of going with this.
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This has taken me back to football manager, how I became
Jose was managing that team. So yeah, I I reckon that would
be what great French. It's actually a shame that not
more sort of European cities like that are involved in in
cricket. That would be quite a cool
franchise gig. I'm thinking, What's that?
And you turn off 3 hour flight over to Barcelona for.
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Set up a European. Premier League a European
league. Tuscany.
Barcelona. Where else should go?
To Greece? Somewhere.
Yeah, we could nip to Paris. Paris.
Little Paris. Team London, We have a London
team. Yeah, that actually.
Like maybe that's how the 100 develops, you know, Raki Rakov,
we'll have a lot of lots of. Crickets own franchise
tournament. We're going to the best.
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Let's just make a weekend of it.Yeah, everyone.
I beat, they're away. I've got bloody I beat.
Away this weekend. Either I have a few more mates
who wanted to go and watch, I reckon.
Yeah. How about you?
Let's throw it. But you've got a franchise.
I know you love your other sports.
If you could own a franchise, say outside of cricket who, what
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would you want it to be? Yeah, great question.
I've given you a Lathwaite's chest full of unlimited cash.
Which franchise in the world areyou going to go and buy and run?
So I want to lean towards golf for just because I love playing
golf, I love watching golf, I love the experience and how like
makes me feel. They've got this.
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Rory Macron and Tiger Wizard League haven't.
They oh, they're indoors. They.
Play indoors, which is a great idea, playing in front of a
stadium and stuff. But if you're off, if you're
paying and I could have any franchise in the world, quite
attractive. I probably lean towards the
Dallas Cowboys and bring them back to the great days of the
what was it like early 90s or something where they were
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winning Super Bowls everywhere. There's something attractive
about, you know. You're a kid I love.
The NFLI love the NFL, but you know, when you're a kid and
there's really successful sportsteams around, you want to A bit
like how I feel about ManchesterUnited.
I'm not a Manchester United fan,but Ferguson and Keene and Sol
Shire, Sheringham, Dwight York, you sort of want them to win a
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trophy just because of. That's what you know.
What I know so actually quite fun to a Man United Forest.
I actually, I think not in your Forest meal would be the
absolute dream to be able to obviously can't really do much
better than what they have done in recent times or what Mr.
Mariakis has done for the for the city and the club.
But still, to watch Forest in like the Champions League or
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something, being a part of that would be unbelievable.
Yeah, sat in the directors box. Sat in the direct me and you
that's our that's our goal for the party we've.
Got a little way to go if anyonewants.
Yeah, maybe they'll give us 5% off.
Here we go offering these deals out again.
Yeah, we might need a bit more than that, but yeah, nice.
We've got a question from James Wyatt.
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Obviously, we've done some amazing things on the field as
quick. So one of the things that comes
with that is doing some sponsored gigs or adverts off
the field. What is the cringiest, worst,
hardest sponsored gig you've hadto do?
I know you're smiling because you've got a few in there as
well, haven't you? I once had to dress as a
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milkman. Give us, give us more default.
I think the slogan, it was for abreakfast company.
The slogan was quick delivery onthe go type vibe and I had a
milk float and I had to deliver this breakfast drink quickly on
a milk float dressed as a milkman.
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But weirdly it was at Tower Bridge in central London during
the middle of the day. So I was filming this advert and
loads of people just stopped watching.
Like, you know how it's weird, isn't it, when you get given a
paragraph to do that straight down the camera or something?
It's quite difficult to, you know, a few goes to get it
natural, but when loads of randoms are watching you too,
it's like and you're dressed as a milkman with a hat on.
It's quite tricky. Just imagine walking like along
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the river and then oh it's actually abroad dressed as a
milk. Greg James on Radio One.
I remember I got in the car to go back and I'd like what
sounded what's happened in that pitch or something, laughing.
And I remember him saying, you know, something like Stuart the
milkman says hi from. So yeah, that was.
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Was that just a one day? Did you have to follow that
there? Was a couple of days with it.
But the hardest thing, and you'll know this, say you've got
a sponsors day, it's the PR of it will be different media
outlets or whatever. And whenever you do say it's Sky
Sports News, you've got an earpiece in and you go straight
to the studio live and you'll have had this question 1000
times when they go, Hi Stuart, what are you doing today?
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I was dressed as a milkman at Tower Bridge.
And that question came, hi Stuart, what are you doing
today? And my first thought was I
haven't got a clue. As I said, that was, that was.
That was definitely doing it. And I'm sure I've, I've had my,
I've had a naked photo shoot with Alistair Cook.
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Well, I said Sir Alistair Cook and Sir Jimmy Anderson in our
younger days for Hugo Boss whereall we we had to stand naked and
cover our private parts with a cricket bat for the photo shoot.
And that's the most nervous I'vebeen before a photo shoot like
that was. In a room full of people.
Room full of people naked. I remember Cookie Cookie just
spent an hour doing press UPS, awhole hour just banging out
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press UPS and we do and that that was again one of those
moments where I thought, oh, a bit out of me comfort zone here.
So they're the two that spring to mind, and I'm sure you've had
a couple. I've had a few.
I reckon I should Remember, Remember Waitrose sponsoring the
team and you just have that moment, don't you think?
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I was keeping wicket with a pairof oven gloves, catching, I
don't know, like apples and thenoranges and carrots like, and I
just, but I think I got in the car on the way home.
Like I always dreamt of being a professional cricketer and
playing for England and I never knew it would lead to me to
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that. Keeping wicket with a pair of
oven gloves on for a Waitrose shoot, which was a great one.
Some of them missed the odd one as usual.
But so that was one. I think I love doing them
because now I've got to the point where I can sort of laugh
at myself. But Dream 11, would they also do
some great adverts and very, youknow, for the IPL market or they
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just sponsor the World Cups and he did his adverts.
So I did one in Australia beforethe T20 World Cup where I had to
blow up some dynamite and then Iknow the whole place around me
just, but they had four guys stood on step ladders and
there's me with my dynamite and my hard hat on.
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And as I push the plunger they just lob sand and rocks and I'm
getting nailed and then the director go cut, not good
enough. So we go pick up the rocks, pick
up the sand. Here we go.
It's about four or five takes ofthat.
So that was pretty tough, but I don't know, it's just comes part
and pass. But there always used to be a
time, didn't there when there are these, it's like when
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Instagram stuff was just kickingoff and everyone in the team was
like couldn't wait for someone to have their happy first
comment. I always used to say that you
could always put like what time it went out was it?
Or if you were like abroad and you thought, you know what, the
lads are asleep and you can get this out now and there'll be
enough, you know, other stuff intheir feed and they'll miss my
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sponsored. And then yeah, your comments get
absolutely nailed, didn't they? But for lads have become a bit
more used to it. Used to it.
I'm going to get hammered. So just.
Just burn dynamite up again. But yeah, what about Jimmy
making that sandwich as well? That's one of your favourites?
Well, it's great. I've actually, I've actually
gifted that up, I think. What does he say something like?
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This is going really well. So I've actually gifted up the
the comments he makes in that advert where he's making the
sandwich with his helmet on and batting gloves.
And if he ever texts me something like, I've you thought
about this, I just send him the gift back of him in his helmet
eating a sandwich. I don't know if he's smiling at
it. Yeah, but I'm carrying on keep.
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Going with it, I'm really happy with that.
So what did? What was that in relevance for?
You're all over him, Yeah. Put 430 for four question mark.
This is going really. Well, I'm retired and he's not.
Can't you? Yeah, great.
I It's. It's always.
Simple pleasures, isn't it simple?
Things in it. Question from Callum Watson on
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our Google forum. Excluding cricket, who's your
favorite sports person and have they inspired you in your
career? Good question.
As a youngster I loved watching sports.
People that almost like threw the first punch, you know, were
in the game, you know, leading by example, playing with
passion. I always had this, well
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certainly when I started playingprofessional cricket, I always
had this feeling like I'd never want someone to be watching on
the telly and go. I could give more in that shirt
or I could play with more passion or more energy.
So I look at Martin Johnson, Leicester Tigers and England
captain lifted the 2003 Rugby World Cup.
I always felt like he led with that.
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I'm going to grab the oppositionby the shirt and drag him over.
First up, you know, I'm going tobe, if there's ever a bit of a
scuffle in the rugby, I'm going to be the one at the front.
Stuart Pierce, not big Nottingham Forest fans.
Stuart Pierce, that passion towards the fans, to engage the
fans. He's still a legend nickname
psycho at Nottingham Forest. He's still like iconic player,
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not necessarily for the free kicks he scored or the OR the
defending, but for the way he engaged with the supporters and
actually even with England, You know, he missed that penalty for
England in 1990 and then scored in Euro 96.
You remember the celebrations when he scored in 96.
You were a bit young, but he just went ballistic.
England, Spain permanent shoot out YouTube.
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It's meant so he was someone whoinspired me for how he would
engage with the crowd. Martin Johnson for how he would
he be first out the trenches, you know, like, come on, follow
me. So they influenced me and the
fact that I sort of definitely back end of my career, really
felt like engaging with the crowd, helped me as a cricketer
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and never really wanted to leaveit to someone else in big
pressure moments, like got a front up to it.
Yeah, let's let's go. So I suppose those two nice.
You, yes, it makes you think, doesn't it?
A question like that I would sayAlan Shearer from so.
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I've had a few football teams I've supported in my times.
My first was the Blackburn Rovers.
I remember Blackburn Rovers, certainly Man City, certainly
Barcelona popped up a little bitat times.
Bit Real Madrid, why not Yeovil Town as well?
But no, I would say so. My first football team was
Blackburn Rovers because they won in 9495.
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Me and my brother, you know, let's follow the best team.
Checkered white kid. Shearer and Sutton upfront and
we just loved Alan Shearer and we just loved like, you know,
like recreating, like great goals.
Obviously the easiest celebration to copy as well.
Running around the garden or in the front room, you know, like
train diving, headers and volleys from, you know, with a
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softball. And so he was an absolute
favorite of ours. I'd also say Roger Federer,
absolutely love Federer and the way he played tennis and like
grace and the skill. And obviously we will all watch
Wimbledon and, you know, coming out in the pure white kit and
the cardigan. And I love the way he plays the
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tennis and that sort of the lackof emotion.
But like the class with it as well.
It's just something I really loved his style and he could
pull off shots that no one else could do and make it look so
easy. Which I've always loved sports,
people like that. I think the best players,
obviously they do, they make it look easy.
But no one's kind of played withmore style than Federer, I would
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say across most all sports, actually.
I would argue he'd probably be one of the most stylish players.
So, yeah, Have they inspired me?Yeah, absolutely.
I think you know, Sharon, just the way he played, the goals he
scored Federer in the way he didit in the class and the grace
and I don't actually, I know someone may be able to correct
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me. I don't think he started like
that. I think it was a bit of a hot
head. And I think he did sort of morph
into this like graceful, classy,emotionless at times players.
So I I like that element, which is something I've tried to do a
bit in in cricket and in sort oftough situations, try and be
sort of emotionless and Iceman kind of Federer.
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I always thought you could nevertell if he was winning or losing
when you or if he played a greatshot or or not.
And he's he's done that great speech, hasn't he?
A university about, you know, a point is just a point.
You know, just he won 52% or something of the points he
played in his career. But he obviously won the big
points. But yeah, how he would just be
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able to move on. I think that's an important
thing to be able to do as a sports person.
If you get out to a certain shotor you play a miss, you have
been able to move on to the nextpool.
So yeah, they would be two, two of my favourites.
I supported Blackburn Rose for alittle period of time with Alan
Sheer. You had that lovely bloom white
kit with the red name and numberon the back, which I loved.
Yeah, black away kit with like apinstripe red.
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And I got this black away kit that got it for me and got Cher
a nine on the back. I was absolutely buzzing, full
kit, socks, red, red shorts buzzing.
And he signed for Newcastle and I remember thinking at the time
I was only what would have been like 10.
You can. Does my dad not read the news?
Surely that's been rumoured. Should buy me the kit, Michelle.
China, you got a cheap kit you got.
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A cheap kit buy me share a nine in the back and he goes to
Newcastle here so I didn't follow Shearer to Newcastle as a
supporter I. Think I did for a few months so
you can add them to. Black and white Adidas kit Nuki
brown iconic, right Jose, Beforeour next question, this is
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I've actually got a couple of tasting notes here on my iPad.
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description. South Africa, great country to
to visit and play cricket. You've got some good memories
there. Great memories, absolutely love
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touring South Africa. Can't wait to go back in the
very near future for the SA-20. Had a couple of great years
there with the pile Royals I think, you know, staying in
pile. Loads of great vineyards around
great cricket. Love the country and probably
one of my favorite memories actually of playing there would
be the test we won at Newlands. Ben Stokes, yeah, 2020 Ben
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Stokes took the last wicket, I think the infamous Vernon
Flander Test match. But I remember like needing a
wicket. I think Rassie van der Doosen
was sort of playing really well,hard to get out.
And the Balmy Army sort of sang all the way up to tee or
something for like, you know, and they do the we need a balmy
army wicket. And they sang for I reckon 40
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minutes literally non-stop trying to get this wicket.
And you need to remember it the right way round.
Did you stand at leg slip or didyou send Jimmy to leg slip for
this? Like just random like it.
Was out of frustration. I was like, Jimmy, do you know
what? Let's try something different.
Go to leg slip. Yeah, and the very next ball I
feel like went straight to him. Like with Barney, I'd be going
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absolutely wild. We had amazing support, wasn't
it? It must have been the whole
grant. It was like home game, really.
It was incredible. And that sort of, you know, set
the ball rolling again to win, Ithink in the final session,
wasn't it? So that'd be one of my most
favorite test wins at one of thebest grounds in the world, isn't
it? Newlands.
So yeah, what about you? Had a couple of good spells out
there. Yeah, that was my favorite Test
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match for sure. It took us 100 and plenty overs
to bow them out. Isn't it everything that Test
cricket should be about? Graphs, character hanging in the
game for a moment that you can change it?
So that was amazing. My favorite tour there probably
was 1516. When I look back of tours that
bring so much joy and you know, so much enjoyment.
We were winning games, but we'd win them on a Sunday evening and
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it we would almost be following the golf tour round as well,
where they'd be playing the Saffron Open or the Joburg Open.
So we'd have a day off on the Monday, which would have been
day five of the Test match because we'd win in four days.
We'd then go and play that competition course on the Monday
when they're taking all the stands down and we'd play off
the back Tees with the final daypins.
So I remember that Test tour from being brilliant, winning
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games but also playing golf courses, how the pros played
them and the experience of doingthat.
So yes, Africa for me, brilliantplace to play cricket, great
cricket pitches, always really competitive, steak, wine,
weather, beaches, golf, you know, you name it.
Awesome. So yeah, one of my favourites.
Question from Kate on YouTube, what is the craziest post match
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celebration you have ever experienced?
The craziest, probably not the craziest, but when I look at, I
mean all of them, when you win particularly, they bring great
joy. It was one in Wellington.
We played New Zealand, I think it was 2023, it was the end of
the series and we played this football game called Pig.
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So you have 3 lives. If you don't keep the ball up,
you make a mistake, you get the P and then at the end if you
lose and you spell Pig, you get flicked on the forehead.
Normally players are warm up between like 5 or 6 of us in in
the England chambers. You well know, I see you play
every day. The the Test match finished and
New Zealand will be like, we've seen you guys play this every
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day, like what is it? And we played a full squad
versus squad game of Pig for like 2 hours so.
Post Test match. Post Test match all the crowd
had gone, it was postal everything so it was like bare
feet in your whites cap on backwards playing pig of like
50-60. Don't lose that like.
Balls getting like hacked up into the air so high and yeah,
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huge pressure on the pig. And I remember it's so clearly
because Neil Wagner, good left arm seamer.
He had this flick on the foot that nearly knocked you out.
It was like a it was like fingercould bend all the way back
through his hand. He like whipped you.
You know, honestly, it's like people are nearly falling over.
So everyone was petrified of losing.
And that went on for a couple ofhours.
And that was such like playing on a Test match ground in New
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Zealand, sort of not you weren'tnecessarily reminiscing about
the test series or ever, but you're in with the opposition.
It was great. So that was probably my my
favorite post match celebration.As a bowler, as our next
question is from Cobham Cricket Club in Kent via our Google
form. So as a bowler you would have
bowled all these guys, Root, Carly Smith and Williamson, the
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current Fab Four. Who do you think will be the
next Fab? Four, I think Shubman Gill's got
to be in that conversation. I think joy as well.
It's got huge talent and abilityto take the game away.
There's a lad called Leandre Pretorius from South Africa who
I watched in SA20A young kid, I think 1819.
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I thought, Oh my goodness me. He strikes it a bit like a young
Graham Smith, you know, as someone comes on the scene and
and hits in unusual areas. But clean devolved.
Brevis got a huge amount of talent.
We'll see loads of him on the Red Bull stage, but certainly in
the in the White Bull form. Harry Brooks in that
conversation without, I know he's England captain, the White
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Bull stuff, but he's still a young up and coming cricketer.
So he he's, he's penned in. I think Shipman Gill's pending
for me. I'm not deliberately not
mentioning in Australian. I just can't necessarily think
of the up and young coming player.
I think Ravindra from New Zealand.
Yeah, I was going to say him. I've recently played with him at
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at the Manchester original. It's just a few games, but you
know, you've played against him and he's he's scored a great
hundred against us in the World Cup in India.
And you thought what top player?He's obviously done well in in
Test cricket as well. And then when you see guys up
close and batting with them at the other end, they're just what
a efficient cricketer, like justreally.
And if the bowler was just off, he had a shot through the
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offside. If he was just a bit too
straight, he he didn't really miss.
And he's just a very simple technique that like, I think he
will be one of those guys as well.
Fab 4. We're talking, you know, best of
the best, aren't we? Best of the best It's.
So to root in Ravindra Brooke inyou're going Brooke's Brooke,
Ravindra Gill. Well, your choice.
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I'm going to say Gill. I think especially after the
summer he had in England, I thought I'm not shy of having
Gill and and Jaiswal and Jaiswal, Yeah, no, I'd agree
with that. I think that's a strong, strong
Fab 4. So got a question from a
verified Heinrich class, the actual Heinrich class, the
actual Heinrich class and question is he just the recent
team mate yours were at the Manchester?
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And Richard had just asked me inthe just.
After text it text it here. Sat next to it.
I've always typed this. Probably.
This is Adm to our to our Instagram on the pod.
How do you guys cope with the expectations from the fans,
teammates to keep producing every single time?
To produce in the pod or assuming it means cricket, which
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yeah, thanks Heinrich for your question.
Expectations, I think are something that you kind of just
have to accept. That's something I've found over
my career to try and have an understanding that they're there
from outside expectations. But I also have my own
expectations, which are are generally I think higher than
the people on the outside. So I'm kind of I link the two up
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and say and just try to accept that I have them, they're there,
I want to do well, I want to perform, but I also know that
that's not a given to get success just because I want
something or people on the outside expect you to do well.
So trying to accept it, trying to have like, I always think
when you break the game down logically and sort of actually
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see it for what it is as opposedto be a batter, be the the end
column, how many runs you scoredor as a bowl or what's your
economy rate. You actually have to break it
down a bit and see what actuallyhappened in the game.
Did I play well in that phase? Was it the game situation?
I had to take a huge risk early and I just got out, you know,
was it an unachievable expectation?
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So just trying to sort of break that down and be a bit more
logical and a bit more real withwith those kind of things.
And then there's no substitute really for experience, I think
on those kind of things. So you just over time, you begin
to accept it and it might be that you actually say, right,
have two or three people whose opinions I really care about and
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value and they'll give you honest feedback and tell you
where you are. And then trying to actually keep
the others on the outside. And they're just one.
Actually, another trick I try and remind myself of is I watch
other sports and and I say, if astriker misses a header from the
six, six yards out, you know, open goal and I'll sit like, Oh
my God, how's he missed that? Like that was so easy.
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And then you sort of catch myself at like, I'm just a fan,
like sort of lost in that. I don't mean it personally.
It's not like an attack on that player.
I'm just saying what I see and people will do that when they
watch me get out or you know, how did he miss that?
How did he drop that catch or miss that stumping?
It's and say try not to take things personally.
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I think from the outside has been been a big one for me.
But what about you? How did you try and cope with
those things? Yeah, when I think about that,
how did I cope? It maybe feels a little bit
selfish in the sense that I would, I used to write notes in
the morning when I first woke upof like my expectation for the
day or my goals for the day. And that's really all I would
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review against. I, I wasn't, not in a mean way,
but I wasn't really that bothered about what the press
would say or what someone would say because I knew what what my
goal was for that day. And quite early on, but it was
sort of mid 20s. I decided to not review myself
against results. So wickets, runs because
particularly as a bowler, I feltlike I could bowl really well
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and pick up no wickets, or I could bowl averagely and
suddenly sneak 3 or 4 in. So I started creating a mindset
about did I create chances? Did I bowl with drive and
passion? So actually things I could
review against that were tangible to me, rather than
leaving it in the hands of whether a batter missed a
straight one or something, you know.
So I would have my own things toreview against, which in the
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evening I then would very briefly review.
Did I do that? Did I walk tall?
Did I keep my eyeliner above thehorizon?
Did I have a positive mindset? And so if I tick those boxes
that were personal to me, I wasn't that bothered if someone
was criticizing me for not taking wickets because I would
know the reason why. So that sounds quite selfish and
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insular when I mention it like that.
But I didn't mean it in a selfish way of couldn't care
less what anyone else thinks. Because of course, you know, I
remember very clearly my granddad was still alive.
He was sort of late 90s by then.He'd always call me, Oh, Bob
Willis has had you again. Says you're bowling too short.
You got to pitch it up. I'd be like, oh, cheers.
I hadn't seen that, but I'll bear in mind, you know what I
mean. But I think I became not insular
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necessarily of what I reviewed, but I came quite strong in my
own mind that that's what is I review my myself against.
And if I know if I'm not making it or doing it properly, I can
I'm the first to know. So yeah, I was quite good at
shutting out outward noise, I suppose.
Question from Phil Brent on Instagram.
Jose, would you enjoy playing Test match cricket under Baz
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McComb? I think I know the answer.
Would that be yes? And would you be able to return?
I think probably know the answerto that as a note, but I look at
sports all about timing, isn't it sometimes?
And and I look at certain players that maybe missed out
just before Baz took over and created this new mindset and
think, oh like how good would they be in this scenario?
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You would love to have played under Baz in the Test match
stuff I imagine. Yeah, I would have absolutely
loved it and I played a lot of Test match cricket more than I
maybe deserved at times. But I think always sort of there
was coaches and captains especially we just saw, you
know, huge potential and upside and and a lot of it was down.
I think my under fulfilling my potential in the Test stuff is
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down to me because I never quitemanaged to have that conviction
and full belief for an extended period of time.
I thought I had it in stages, but I think, you know, being
around sort of bars and, you know, being on the outside and
seeing what he's, you know, doneto English cricket in that Test
team, of course, you'd absolutely love to experience
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that. And it's very easy to sit here
and say, you know, I'd have played so much better if I
played in in that team, which, you know, might not actually be
the case. But I think he would have been
able to push me to have real conviction about what I was my
identity, I would say, in Test cricket.
I think that's something I nevernailed was like, how am I meant?
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I thought I was meant to play a certain way sometimes.
And even I'd say throughout my whole first class career when I
was at Somerset and Lancashire as well, I kind of never maybe
knew my identity. And I think maybe Baz would have
helped me sort of find that. And even if I didn't find that,
he would have made me fail in a way that would have maybe been
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the best way to do that. But would I be open to a return?
I just, I wouldn't. I don't think it's even a
question. You know, I think my time's been
and gone. You look at that team now, it's
a really settled line up, I think, which is really exciting
for for that Test team. And yeah, and that wicketkeeper
role. I think Jamie Smith's going to
be an amazing Test match #7 I know there'll be, he could bat
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higher up, he's that good a player.
But I think in that role he doesas well as it's amazing.
But yeah, I think like I say, timing's massive thing in
cricket. And you know, you never know,
it's easy in hindsight to say, yes, it would have been the
making of me to play in, in thatdressing room under McCullum.
But, and it might not, but it certainly probably would have
been a, a great way to find out if that was the the best way for
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me to to be as a Test cricketer.And that's actually one thing.
I'm loving the fact that he's now coach of the white ball
stuff as well because you know, Baz does have this or and this
sort of I know I think he's got a bit of a special something.
It's great to be around him and and I'm loving just getting to
spend time with him as a coach, even even in the white ball
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stuff. Yeah, I look at like Harry
Brooke as an example, hugely talented, one of the best young
players that I bowled to in the Nets and things like that.
But with the timing of his international Chris starting
when Bars and Stokes are in charge, I think has taken him
what an amazing way to start your career, like to bed in
those principles and those characteristics that early is
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lucky for him in a sense, because there'll be certain
scenarios that or change rooms that he might not have cultures
that he might not have been ableto play the way he has done.
But yeah, it's really special. I look at Baz and think almost
like a thank you to like beddingin some principles to our young
players that we should see the value of for 10-15 years.
So it's, yeah, it's pretty cool.But yeah, I'm a big believer in
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sport. That's about timing at times.
And there's a good question actually, from Jesse Darwin.
I'm going to ask you, because you've got the trifecta, what's
better, winning the Ashes, the 50 over World Cup or the 20 over
World Cup? I would say I think my own
personal experience of winning the Ashes was it was a bit
bittersweet because my own performances were not great.
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I probably got so caught up in the whole thing and I didn't
perform the way I wanted to, even though I was part of a, an
Ashes winning team. So I kind of have a bit of a
bittersweet feeling towards that, which you'd probably
better to answer because you've,you know, played in some amazing
Ashes series and won those and contributed fantastically.
So I'm sure that would be a different feeling.
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But the World Cup for me, 2019 was just incredible.
And and it so that for me, of the things I've won, 2019 would
be top, the 2022 T 20 World Cup would be second and the Ashes
would be third. But yeah, they're all all very
different. Hard to sort of, you know, pick.
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It's a great place to be. And when I sort of say it like
that, I've never really thought of it to say, well, I've been in
teams that have won all three ofthose things.
But 2019 was just a special timewith a special group of guys who
we were all great mates. We built that team over 4 years
to win at Lord's in the fashion we did.
It's just he can't beat that forme.
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So yeah, that would be that would be the one for me.
But I know other people would have played in Asher's series.
You're part of that team that won down in Australia.
I mean, that must be most incredible feeling when I.
Look at some of the moments thatbrought me so much joy in my in
my career. I do look at the feeling I had
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in Bridgetown, Barbados, Englandversus Australia World Cup
final. It's just short.
It was a short, sharp tournament, you know, three
weeks in, whereas an Ashley series, you're doing it for like
a set 8-9 weeks. You know, this was OK, we're in.
We've got to, we've got to perform each day, move on to
another island, go again. This final arrived and I was
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actually. Right behind Paul Collingwood is
our captain, walking out for thenational anthems.
And the mascots came and you hold the mascots hand and walk
out and what's your name? And Paul Collingwood just in
front of me and got a little girl, so what's your name?
And she goes lucky and you just turn around to the whole team
and goes boys, it's our day. And it was like, it was like
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went down the line lads, colleagues, mascot called lucky.
That's hard day, it's hard day. And we sang the anthem and seen
the anthem. It felt like a Home group game.
Although we're in Barbados, the crowd was amazing in England,
Australia, big rivalry, but you're in Barbados and we got 3
wickets in the power play early.So we're flying.
The atmosphere is amazing and running on the outfield.
Having won that trophy, it was, it felt a different type of
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emotion in the Ashes. The Ashes like graft and history
and like this was just ultimate joy all on one day, all on one
day. So I look back and you know what
an what an amazing place to do it as well to have that sort of
memory from Barbados, a wonderful place to go and visit.
So the different feelings, I think that it's a different way
of looking at the things. But definitely the, I'm saying
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the T20 World Cup was my best day of my career.
But I do look at that with a huge amount of joy.
There's the jeopardy I think in the final of, like I said, that
one day, one game of cricket that at the end of this someone
is going to lift the trophy. And the other team is going.
To and the other team is going to be absolutely gutted and, you
know, been so close yet so far so and there's something I
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always thought about time in cricket, you know, and like time
and I always used to think that and these the finals I've played
in, I'm like, you're sort of in the moment, be like, Oh my God,
in three hours time someone is going to lift that World Cup and
it might be us, it might be them.
And like you get tense, but you're like, you know what, in
two hours, 3 hours, like we'll know the result.
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You know, you say in ashes, it might be over six weeks, seven
weeks. Whereas that just instant, the
nerves of arriving at the groundand knowing that you're either
going to walk away as a runner'sup or with a medal and winners
is, yeah, there's a real jeopardy in that, which is,
yeah, I think, like I said, different.
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But yeah, winning a World Cup isquite a cool thing to say, too.
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Jose, we've also got a glass of the gooseberry Bush to enjoy
South African Sav Blanc. I'll pour you a glass.
Thank you. Imagine it's got a little smell
or taste of gooseberry. There's.
No hint of, it's a. Strange name if it hasn't got a
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bit of gooseberry in it. Oh, it's nice, fresh and zingy.
I'd say Zingy, but what does theexpert think?
Really milk in that aren't I really enjoy.
It as you should. Yeah, lovely, beautiful, right?
Let's get stuck into it. So we've had loads of questions,
naturally, Jose. And the one that has been
repeated the most from so many different listeners and viewers
(01:30):
is will Joe Root score 100 in Australia in the Ashes?
He's got a great record in in Ashes Cricket overall.
He's got a decent record in Australia, mid 30s, but he
hasn't scored 100. Will he break that?
What's it's not even a curse is it?
Will he just get over the line? I'd be very surprised if he
doesn't. I think absolutely he will, and
I'm going to say he'll score more than 100 in the Ashes this
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winter. Yeah, I, I tend to agree.
He looks great. He looked in great form doing it
against I3 back-to-back, hundreds to finish.
I think it's just he toured, they're very young, got left out
of Sydney. He also toured in that COVID
series, which was so much on hisplate as captain.
He also had, he was sort of, I want to say 5060 night out of
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Sydney one year when he got heatstroke and and missed the last
day. So just hasn't quite worked for
him. But no, I'm I'm absolutely.
And let's be honest, if he doesn't, England aren't going to
go overly well, aren't they? No, no, he's obviously he's he's
going to be a vital player in that series.
But let's just think England arein a good place.
He's in a great place. He's scored what, 39 Test
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hundreds and since COVID he's scored 20 something as well.
So he's obviously in great form and great know how of how to
score hundreds and Australia trying to keep him quiet will be
a big challenge for them. But absolutely, I think he's
just in a place in his game where you know he's, I'd be
very, very surprised if he didn't score 100 in five Test
matches. Does he does he outscore Steve
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Smith, do you think? Well, obviously I hope so, yeah.
But I think that would be for me.
I I, there's lots of themes obviously throughout it, but I
think four and five of Root and Brooke against Smith and Head
is, is a really exciting match up.
I think, and especially the way those sort of Root and Smith,
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the more traditional test playerdone it for so long and Head and
Brooke are quite sort of take the game away from you can be
really expansive. So I think that is a real
exciting part of a subplot of the series.
Let's move on to another one question from Laura Rolls on
Instagram. Not that this will apply to you
anymore broadly, but the dietitian has had the night off
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and you can eat whatever you want with 0 consequences.
What are you getting? Love my pan Asian type food.
Obviously my ultimate. I love a Sunday roast in a pub.
Wedging, starter, main dessert, bang away we go.
Even finished with cheese and biscuits, away we go.
Roast beef, Yorkshire puddings, as many roast potatoes as you
could possibly get gravy on the side so you can sort of measure
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it yourself, you know? I don't want to get poured over
it. Don't want too little, don't
want too much gravy. It's all individual preference,
so that would be. Food dietitian be all right with
that and vegetables, wouldn't they?
Yeah, a few little parsnips on the side or something, but I
think my favorite meal out with Molly would be like a pan Asian
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spicy tuna roll, bit of sashimi,nip into a bit of black cod.
Maybe there's a like a Marmite chicken thing that a restaurant
does in in London and finish with one of those chocolate
brownies that melts in the middle with a bit of vanilla ice
cream. You know, so you it's hot in the
middle and you're wedging and the ice cream starts melting
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around. One each or two spoons and a a
share at that stage of E meal. Now I'm retired, so one each in
it. So one each.
And actually Molly only gets halfway through, so I'll Polish
the rest of that off. So one and a half, 1 1/2.
But what about you? I know you're very strict on
your or focused on your fitness and diet and stuff, but you're a
bit of a foodie. A bit of a foodie.
You've got a very sweet tooth. Love chocolate, so that's always
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a a big challenge, especially Mcvitie's chocolate digestive
biscuits. They are one of my favourites
actually. Guilty pleasure of playing
cricket in England is motorway service stations, so if I'm
trying to be good, pick that. Yeah, actually.
What's your guilty pleasure motorway service?
Stations being able to break up my journey.
(05:29):
Actually recently Donnington is was a recent, I love an M&S in
there. So I'm in for try and sort of
be, I don't know, with a pasta or a rat, but then it's the
Percy pigs and it's they do these cheese like wrapped in
chorizo. So hammer them in as well.
And then late at night, I do have a guilty pleasure of a
(05:51):
McDonald's. Do you?
Yeah, I'd really enjoy it. McDonald's 1/4 pounder with
cheese, large fries and then a few Mcnuggets.
Just to so you just keep it basic.
It kind of yeah, very basic, butI just gets me through the next
half an hour of my journey is eating and then I'm like I'm
nearly there. So I do enjoy stopping at the
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services and the county grind that is, It's quite interesting,
the county grind. We played a game, I think we
were heading to Northampton or somewhere recently and Lanks
boys are straight off the bus and it's like lunchtime on a
Friday, straight into the KFC. And I thought, yeah, for lunch,
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I thought we asked, pushing it abit like, you know, 11:00 at
night after a game. I could maybe, and it's the only
option, but I did pull myself away from KFC at that stage.
But yeah, I don't mind. That's my guilty pleasure, I'd
say. Always surprised me.
Stokes who? Ben Stokes, obviously a couple
of things would surprise me. I'd expect him like for a coffee
order to be just get me three shots of espresso and down we
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go. But it was always a vanilla
latte with extra frothy milk anda little, a little sweetener
here and that type of there. And his McDonald's order, you
know, the whatever scenario you'd be in and he'd be like,
right, Was he having OK, a Big Mac, Big Mac fillet fish?
What? I know.
Fillet fish. What do you mean now?
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Probably like 3 of them. And that would be, and that
always freaked me out a little bit as Stokes would have a
fillet fish with McDonald's whenyou're when everyone's ordering
like 10 big hats. But yeah, yeah.
So I'd say yeah, me, Pan Asia, new Maccas.
Let's move on. Question from Stu on Facebook.
It's actually for me, yeah. It's one for you, Jose.
If you owned a franchise team, I'm assuming we mean cricket,
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but you could go out to be NFL or football.
If you can, you can broaden thisout to whatever you want.
Where would it be based and whatwould they be called?
My franchise team, I'm going to base them in Barcelona.
What league do you want to be? What do you want to be NFLIP?
L No, no, it's got to be a cricket team.
But we're actually, we're going to play in the 100 but we're
actually based in Barcelona. So we just fly in, fly in for
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the games and it's a pretty niceaway trip for the seven other
sides isn't it? So we are going to be based in
Barcelona, we're going to be called Ticky Tacker.
With the red, red and blue stripe.
Yeah, yeah, real Catalan kind ofvibes really.
This is a nod to my football manager, Jose Boutliere.
That's where I'm sort of going with this.
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This has taken me back to football manager, how I became
Jose was managing that team. So yeah, I I reckon that would
be what great French. It's actually a shame that not
more sort of European cities like that are involved in in
cricket. That would be quite a cool
franchise gig. I'm thinking, What's that?
And you turn off 3 hour flight over to Barcelona for.
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Set up a European. Premier League a European
league. Tuscany.
Barcelona. Where else should go?
To Greece? Somewhere.
Yeah, we could nip to Paris. Paris.
Little Paris. Team London, We have a London
team. Yeah, that actually.
Like maybe that's how the 100 develops, you know, Raki Rakov,
we'll have a lot of lots of. Crickets own franchise
tournament. We're going to the best.
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Let's just make a weekend of it.Yeah, everyone.
I beat, they're away. I've got bloody I beat.
Away this weekend. Either I have a few more mates
who wanted to go and watch, I reckon.
Yeah. How about you?
Let's throw it. But you've got a franchise.
I know you love your other sports.
If you could own a franchise, say outside of cricket who, what
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would you want it to be? Yeah, great question.
I've given you a Lathwaite's chest full of unlimited cash.
Which franchise in the world areyou going to go and buy and run?
So I want to lean towards golf for just because I love playing
golf, I love watching golf, I love the experience and how like
makes me feel. They've got this.
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Rory Macron and Tiger Wizard League haven't.
They oh, they're indoors. They.
Play indoors, which is a great idea, playing in front of a
stadium and stuff. But if you're off, if you're
paying and I could have any franchise in the world, quite
attractive. I probably lean towards the
Dallas Cowboys and bring them back to the great days of the
what was it like early 90s or something where they were
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winning Super Bowls everywhere. There's something attractive
about, you know. You're a kid I love.
The NFLI love the NFL, but you know, when you're a kid and
there's really successful sportsteams around, you want to A bit
like how I feel about ManchesterUnited.
I'm not a Manchester United fan,but Ferguson and Keene and Sol
Shire, Sheringham, Dwight York, you sort of want them to win a
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trophy just because of. That's what you know.
What I know so actually quite fun to a Man United Forest.
I actually, I think not in your Forest meal would be the
absolute dream to be able to obviously can't really do much
better than what they have done in recent times or what Mr.
Mariakis has done for the for the city and the club.
But still, to watch Forest in like the Champions League or
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something, being a part of that would be unbelievable.
Yeah, sat in the directors box. Sat in the direct me and you
that's our that's our goal for the party we've.
Got a little way to go if anyonewants.
Yeah, maybe they'll give us 5% off.
Here we go offering these deals out again.
Yeah, we might need a bit more than that, but yeah, nice.
We've got a question from James Wyatt.
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Obviously, we've done some amazing things on the field as
quick. So one of the things that comes
with that is doing some sponsored gigs or adverts off
the field. What is the cringiest, worst,
hardest sponsored gig you've hadto do?
I know you're smiling because you've got a few in there as
well, haven't you? I once had to dress as a
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milkman. Give us, give us more default.
I think the slogan, it was for abreakfast company.
The slogan was quick delivery onthe go type vibe and I had a
milk float and I had to deliver this breakfast drink quickly on
a milk float dressed as a milkman.
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But weirdly it was at Tower Bridge in central London during
the middle of the day. So I was filming this advert and
loads of people just stopped watching.
Like, you know how it's weird, isn't it, when you get given a
paragraph to do that straight down the camera or something?
It's quite difficult to, you know, a few goes to get it
natural, but when loads of randoms are watching you too,
it's like and you're dressed as a milkman with a hat on.
It's quite tricky. Just imagine walking like along
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the river and then oh it's actually abroad dressed as a
milk. Greg James on Radio One.
I remember I got in the car to go back and I'd like what
sounded what's happened in that pitch or something, laughing.
And I remember him saying, you know, something like Stuart the
milkman says hi from. So yeah, that was.
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Was that just a one day? Did you have to follow that
there? Was a couple of days with it.
But the hardest thing, and you'll know this, say you've got
a sponsors day, it's the PR of it will be different media
outlets or whatever. And whenever you do say it's Sky
Sports News, you've got an earpiece in and you go straight
to the studio live and you'll have had this question 1000
times when they go, Hi Stuart, what are you doing today?
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I was dressed as a milkman at Tower Bridge.
And that question came, hi Stuart, what are you doing
today? And my first thought was I
haven't got a clue. As I said, that was, that was.
That was definitely doing it. And I'm sure I've, I've had my,
I've had a naked photo shoot with Alistair Cook.
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Well, I said Sir Alistair Cook and Sir Jimmy Anderson in our
younger days for Hugo Boss whereall we we had to stand naked and
cover our private parts with a cricket bat for the photo shoot.
And that's the most nervous I'vebeen before a photo shoot like
that was. In a room full of people.
Room full of people naked. I remember Cookie Cookie just
spent an hour doing press UPS, awhole hour just banging out
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press UPS and we do and that that was again one of those
moments where I thought, oh, a bit out of me comfort zone here.
So they're the two that spring to mind, and I'm sure you've had
a couple. I've had a few.
I reckon I should Remember, Remember Waitrose sponsoring the
team and you just have that moment, don't you think?
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I was keeping wicket with a pairof oven gloves, catching, I
don't know, like apples and thenoranges and carrots like, and I
just, but I think I got in the car on the way home.
Like I always dreamt of being a professional cricketer and
playing for England and I never knew it would lead to me to
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that. Keeping wicket with a pair of
oven gloves on for a Waitrose shoot, which was a great one.
Some of them missed the odd one as usual.
But so that was one. I think I love doing them
because now I've got to the point where I can sort of laugh
at myself. But Dream 11, would they also do
some great adverts and very, youknow, for the IPL market or they
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just sponsor the World Cups and he did his adverts.
So I did one in Australia beforethe T20 World Cup where I had to
blow up some dynamite and then Iknow the whole place around me
just, but they had four guys stood on step ladders and
there's me with my dynamite and my hard hat on.
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And as I push the plunger they just lob sand and rocks and I'm
getting nailed and then the director go cut, not good
enough. So we go pick up the rocks, pick
up the sand. Here we go.
It's about four or five takes ofthat.
So that was pretty tough, but I don't know, it's just comes part
and pass. But there always used to be a
time, didn't there when there are these, it's like when
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Instagram stuff was just kickingoff and everyone in the team was
like couldn't wait for someone to have their happy first
comment. I always used to say that you
could always put like what time it went out was it?
Or if you were like abroad and you thought, you know what, the
lads are asleep and you can get this out now and there'll be
enough, you know, other stuff intheir feed and they'll miss my
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sponsored. And then yeah, your comments get
absolutely nailed, didn't they? But for lads have become a bit
more used to it. Used to it.
I'm going to get hammered. So just.
Just burn dynamite up again. But yeah, what about Jimmy
making that sandwich as well? That's one of your favourites?
Well, it's great. I've actually, I've actually
gifted that up, I think. What does he say something like?
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This is going really well. So I've actually gifted up the
the comments he makes in that advert where he's making the
sandwich with his helmet on and batting gloves.
And if he ever texts me something like, I've you thought
about this, I just send him the gift back of him in his helmet
eating a sandwich. I don't know if he's smiling at
it. Yeah, but I'm carrying on keep.
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Going with it, I'm really happy with that.
So what did? What was that in relevance for?
You're all over him, Yeah. Put 430 for four question mark.
This is going really. Well, I'm retired and he's not.
Can't you? Yeah, great.
I It's. It's always.
Simple pleasures, isn't it simple?
Things in it. Question from Callum Watson on
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our Google forum. Excluding cricket, who's your
favorite sports person and have they inspired you in your
career? Good question.
As a youngster I loved watching sports.
People that almost like threw the first punch, you know, were
in the game, you know, leading by example, playing with
passion. I always had this, well
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certainly when I started playingprofessional cricket, I always
had this feeling like I'd never want someone to be watching on
the telly and go. I could give more in that shirt
or I could play with more passion or more energy.
So I look at Martin Johnson, Leicester Tigers and England
captain lifted the 2003 Rugby World Cup.
I always felt like he led with that.
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I'm going to grab the oppositionby the shirt and drag him over.
First up, you know, I'm going tobe, if there's ever a bit of a
scuffle in the rugby, I'm going to be the one at the front.
Stuart Pierce, not big Nottingham Forest fans.
Stuart Pierce, that passion towards the fans, to engage the
fans. He's still a legend nickname
psycho at Nottingham Forest. He's still like iconic player,
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not necessarily for the free kicks he scored or the OR the
defending, but for the way he engaged with the supporters and
actually even with England, You know, he missed that penalty for
England in 1990 and then scored in Euro 96.
You remember the celebrations when he scored in 96.
You were a bit young, but he just went ballistic.
England, Spain permanent shoot out YouTube.
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It's meant so he was someone whoinspired me for how he would
engage with the crowd. Martin Johnson for how he would
he be first out the trenches, you know, like, come on, follow
me. So they influenced me and the
fact that I sort of definitely back end of my career, really
felt like engaging with the crowd, helped me as a cricketer
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and never really wanted to leaveit to someone else in big
pressure moments, like got a front up to it.
Yeah, let's let's go. So I suppose those two nice.
You, yes, it makes you think, doesn't it?
A question like that I would sayAlan Shearer from so.
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I've had a few football teams I've supported in my times.
My first was the Blackburn Rovers.
I remember Blackburn Rovers, certainly Man City, certainly
Barcelona popped up a little bitat times.
Bit Real Madrid, why not Yeovil Town as well?
But no, I would say so. My first football team was
Blackburn Rovers because they won in 9495.
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Me and my brother, you know, let's follow the best team.
Checkered white kid. Shearer and Sutton upfront and
we just loved Alan Shearer and we just loved like, you know,
like recreating, like great goals.
Obviously the easiest celebration to copy as well.
Running around the garden or in the front room, you know, like
train diving, headers and volleys from, you know, with a
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softball. And so he was an absolute
favorite of ours. I'd also say Roger Federer,
absolutely love Federer and the way he played tennis and like
grace and the skill. And obviously we will all watch
Wimbledon and, you know, coming out in the pure white kit and
the cardigan. And I love the way he plays the
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tennis and that sort of the lackof emotion.
But like the class with it as well.
It's just something I really loved his style and he could
pull off shots that no one else could do and make it look so
easy. Which I've always loved sports,
people like that. I think the best players,
obviously they do, they make it look easy.
But no one's kind of played withmore style than Federer, I would
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say across most all sports, actually.
I would argue he'd probably be one of the most stylish players.
So, yeah, Have they inspired me?Yeah, absolutely.
I think you know, Sharon, just the way he played, the goals he
scored Federer in the way he didit in the class and the grace
and I don't actually, I know someone may be able to correct
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me. I don't think he started like
that. I think it was a bit of a hot
head. And I think he did sort of morph
into this like graceful, classy,emotionless at times players.
So I I like that element, which is something I've tried to do a
bit in in cricket and in sort oftough situations, try and be
sort of emotionless and Iceman kind of Federer.
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I always thought you could nevertell if he was winning or losing
when you or if he played a greatshot or or not.
And he's he's done that great speech, hasn't he?
A university about, you know, a point is just a point.
You know, just he won 52% or something of the points he
played in his career. But he obviously won the big
points. But yeah, how he would just be
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able to move on. I think that's an important
thing to be able to do as a sports person.
If you get out to a certain shotor you play a miss, you have
been able to move on to the nextpool.
So yeah, they would be two, two of my favourites.
I supported Blackburn Rose for alittle period of time with Alan
Sheer. You had that lovely bloom white
kit with the red name and numberon the back, which I loved.
Yeah, black away kit with like apinstripe red.
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And I got this black away kit that got it for me and got Cher
a nine on the back. I was absolutely buzzing, full
kit, socks, red, red shorts buzzing.
And he signed for Newcastle and I remember thinking at the time
I was only what would have been like 10.
You can. Does my dad not read the news?
Surely that's been rumoured. Should buy me the kit, Michelle.
China, you got a cheap kit you got.
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A cheap kit buy me share a nine in the back and he goes to
Newcastle here so I didn't follow Shearer to Newcastle as a
supporter I. Think I did for a few months so
you can add them to. Black and white Adidas kit Nuki
brown iconic, right Jose, Beforeour next question, this is
called the goosery Bush from South Africa.
I've actually got a couple of tasting notes here on my iPad.
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It's Lathwe. It's top selling white wine.
Super Zingy. You called that in your Super
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Very refreshing. And it's part of our For Love of
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lathweights.co.uk. The link will be in our episode
description. South Africa, great country to
to visit and play cricket. You've got some good memories
there. Great memories, absolutely love
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touring South Africa. Can't wait to go back in the
very near future for the SA-20. Had a couple of great years
there with the pile Royals I think, you know, staying in
pile. Loads of great vineyards around
great cricket. Love the country and probably
one of my favorite memories actually of playing there would
be the test we won at Newlands. Ben Stokes, yeah, 2020 Ben
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Stokes took the last wicket, I think the infamous Vernon
Flander Test match. But I remember like needing a
wicket. I think Rassie van der Doosen
was sort of playing really well,hard to get out.
And the Balmy Army sort of sang all the way up to tee or
something for like, you know, and they do the we need a balmy
army wicket. And they sang for I reckon 40
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minutes literally non-stop trying to get this wicket.
And you need to remember it the right way round.
Did you stand at leg slip or didyou send Jimmy to leg slip for
this? Like just random like it.
Was out of frustration. I was like, Jimmy, do you know
what? Let's try something different.
Go to leg slip. Yeah, and the very next ball I
feel like went straight to him. Like with Barney, I'd be going
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absolutely wild. We had amazing support, wasn't
it? It must have been the whole
grant. It was like home game, really.
It was incredible. And that sort of, you know, set
the ball rolling again to win, Ithink in the final session,
wasn't it? So that'd be one of my most
favorite test wins at one of thebest grounds in the world, isn't
it? Newlands.
So yeah, what about you? Had a couple of good spells out
there. Yeah, that was my favorite Test
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match for sure. It took us 100 and plenty overs
to bow them out. Isn't it everything that Test
cricket should be about? Graphs, character hanging in the
game for a moment that you can change it?
So that was amazing. My favorite tour there probably
was 1516. When I look back of tours that
bring so much joy and you know, so much enjoyment.
We were winning games, but we'd win them on a Sunday evening and
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it we would almost be following the golf tour round as well,
where they'd be playing the Saffron Open or the Joburg Open.
So we'd have a day off on the Monday, which would have been
day five of the Test match because we'd win in four days.
We'd then go and play that competition course on the Monday
when they're taking all the stands down and we'd play off
the back Tees with the final daypins.
So I remember that Test tour from being brilliant, winning
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games but also playing golf courses, how the pros played
them and the experience of doingthat.
So yes, Africa for me, brilliantplace to play cricket, great
cricket pitches, always really competitive, steak, wine,
weather, beaches, golf, you know, you name it.
Awesome. So yeah, one of my favourites.
Question from Kate on YouTube, what is the craziest post match
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celebration you have ever experienced?
The craziest, probably not the craziest, but when I look at, I
mean all of them, when you win particularly, they bring great
joy. It was one in Wellington.
We played New Zealand, I think it was 2023, it was the end of
the series and we played this football game called Pig.
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So you have 3 lives. If you don't keep the ball up,
you make a mistake, you get the P and then at the end if you
lose and you spell Pig, you get flicked on the forehead.
Normally players are warm up between like 5 or 6 of us in in
the England chambers. You well know, I see you play
every day. The the Test match finished and
New Zealand will be like, we've seen you guys play this every
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day, like what is it? And we played a full squad
versus squad game of Pig for like 2 hours so.
Post Test match. Post Test match all the crowd
had gone, it was postal everything so it was like bare
feet in your whites cap on backwards playing pig of like
50-60. Don't lose that like.
Balls getting like hacked up into the air so high and yeah,
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huge pressure on the pig. And I remember it's so clearly
because Neil Wagner, good left arm seamer.
He had this flick on the foot that nearly knocked you out.
It was like a it was like fingercould bend all the way back
through his hand. He like whipped you.
You know, honestly, it's like people are nearly falling over.
So everyone was petrified of losing.
And that went on for a couple ofhours.
And that was such like playing on a Test match ground in New
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Zealand, sort of not you weren'tnecessarily reminiscing about
the test series or ever, but you're in with the opposition.
It was great. So that was probably my my
favorite post match celebration.As a bowler, as our next
question is from Cobham Cricket Club in Kent via our Google
form. So as a bowler you would have
bowled all these guys, Root, Carly Smith and Williamson, the
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current Fab Four. Who do you think will be the
next Fab? Four, I think Shubman Gill's got
to be in that conversation. I think joy as well.
It's got huge talent and abilityto take the game away.
There's a lad called Leandre Pretorius from South Africa who
I watched in SA20A young kid, I think 1819.
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I thought, Oh my goodness me. He strikes it a bit like a young
Graham Smith, you know, as someone comes on the scene and
and hits in unusual areas. But clean devolved.
Brevis got a huge amount of talent.
We'll see loads of him on the Red Bull stage, but certainly in
the in the White Bull form. Harry Brooks in that
conversation without, I know he's England captain, the White
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Bull stuff, but he's still a young up and coming cricketer.
So he he's, he's penned in. I think Shipman Gill's pending
for me. I'm not deliberately not
mentioning in Australian. I just can't necessarily think
of the up and young coming player.
I think Ravindra from New Zealand.
Yeah, I was going to say him. I've recently played with him at
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at the Manchester original. It's just a few games, but you
know, you've played against him and he's he's scored a great
hundred against us in the World Cup in India.
And you thought what top player?He's obviously done well in in
Test cricket as well. And then when you see guys up
close and batting with them at the other end, they're just what
a efficient cricketer, like justreally.
And if the bowler was just off, he had a shot through the
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offside. If he was just a bit too
straight, he he didn't really miss.
And he's just a very simple technique that like, I think he
will be one of those guys as well.
Fab 4. We're talking, you know, best of
the best, aren't we? Best of the best It's.
So to root in Ravindra Brooke inyou're going Brooke's Brooke,
Ravindra Gill. Well, your choice.
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I'm going to say Gill. I think especially after the
summer he had in England, I thought I'm not shy of having
Gill and and Jaiswal and Jaiswal, Yeah, no, I'd agree
with that. I think that's a strong, strong
Fab 4. So got a question from a
verified Heinrich class, the actual Heinrich class, the
actual Heinrich class and question is he just the recent
team mate yours were at the Manchester?
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And Richard had just asked me inthe just.
After text it text it here. Sat next to it.
I've always typed this. Probably.
This is Adm to our to our Instagram on the pod.
How do you guys cope with the expectations from the fans,
teammates to keep producing every single time?
To produce in the pod or assuming it means cricket, which
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yeah, thanks Heinrich for your question.
Expectations, I think are something that you kind of just
have to accept. That's something I've found over
my career to try and have an understanding that they're there
from outside expectations. But I also have my own
expectations, which are are generally I think higher than
the people on the outside. So I'm kind of I link the two up
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and say and just try to accept that I have them, they're there,
I want to do well, I want to perform, but I also know that
that's not a given to get success just because I want
something or people on the outside expect you to do well.
So trying to accept it, trying to have like, I always think
when you break the game down logically and sort of actually
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see it for what it is as opposedto be a batter, be the the end
column, how many runs you scoredor as a bowl or what's your
economy rate. You actually have to break it
down a bit and see what actuallyhappened in the game.
Did I play well in that phase? Was it the game situation?
I had to take a huge risk early and I just got out, you know,
was it an unachievable expectation?
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So just trying to sort of break that down and be a bit more
logical and a bit more real withwith those kind of things.
And then there's no substitute really for experience, I think
on those kind of things. So you just over time, you begin
to accept it and it might be that you actually say, right,
have two or three people whose opinions I really care about and
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value and they'll give you honest feedback and tell you
where you are. And then trying to actually keep
the others on the outside. And they're just one.
Actually, another trick I try and remind myself of is I watch
other sports and and I say, if astriker misses a header from the
six, six yards out, you know, open goal and I'll sit like, Oh
my God, how's he missed that? Like that was so easy.
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And then you sort of catch myself at like, I'm just a fan,
like sort of lost in that. I don't mean it personally.
It's not like an attack on that player.
I'm just saying what I see and people will do that when they
watch me get out or you know, how did he miss that?
How did he drop that catch or miss that stumping?
It's and say try not to take things personally.
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I think from the outside has been been a big one for me.
But what about you? How did you try and cope with
those things? Yeah, when I think about that,
how did I cope? It maybe feels a little bit
selfish in the sense that I would, I used to write notes in
the morning when I first woke upof like my expectation for the
day or my goals for the day. And that's really all I would
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review against. I, I wasn't, not in a mean way,
but I wasn't really that bothered about what the press
would say or what someone would say because I knew what what my
goal was for that day. And quite early on, but it was
sort of mid 20s. I decided to not review myself
against results. So wickets, runs because
particularly as a bowler, I feltlike I could bowl really well
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and pick up no wickets, or I could bowl averagely and
suddenly sneak 3 or 4 in. So I started creating a mindset
about did I create chances? Did I bowl with drive and
passion? So actually things I could
review against that were tangible to me, rather than
leaving it in the hands of whether a batter missed a
straight one or something, you know.
So I would have my own things toreview against, which in the
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evening I then would very briefly review.
Did I do that? Did I walk tall?
Did I keep my eyeliner above thehorizon?
Did I have a positive mindset? And so if I tick those boxes
that were personal to me, I wasn't that bothered if someone
was criticizing me for not taking wickets because I would
know the reason why. So that sounds quite selfish and
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insular when I mention it like that.
But I didn't mean it in a selfish way of couldn't care
less what anyone else thinks. Because of course, you know, I
remember very clearly my granddad was still alive.
He was sort of late 90s by then.He'd always call me, Oh, Bob
Willis has had you again. Says you're bowling too short.
You got to pitch it up. I'd be like, oh, cheers.
I hadn't seen that, but I'll bear in mind, you know what I
mean. But I think I became not insular
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necessarily of what I reviewed, but I came quite strong in my
own mind that that's what is I review my myself against.
And if I know if I'm not making it or doing it properly, I can
I'm the first to know. So yeah, I was quite good at
shutting out outward noise, I suppose.
Question from Phil Brent on Instagram.
Jose, would you enjoy playing Test match cricket under Baz
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McComb? I think I know the answer.
Would that be yes? And would you be able to return?
I think probably know the answerto that as a note, but I look at
sports all about timing, isn't it sometimes?
And and I look at certain players that maybe missed out
just before Baz took over and created this new mindset and
think, oh like how good would they be in this scenario?
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You would love to have played under Baz in the Test match
stuff I imagine. Yeah, I would have absolutely
loved it and I played a lot of Test match cricket more than I
maybe deserved at times. But I think always sort of there
was coaches and captains especially we just saw, you
know, huge potential and upside and and a lot of it was down.
I think my under fulfilling my potential in the Test stuff is
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down to me because I never quitemanaged to have that conviction
and full belief for an extended period of time.
I thought I had it in stages, but I think, you know, being
around sort of bars and, you know, being on the outside and
seeing what he's, you know, doneto English cricket in that Test
team, of course, you'd absolutely love to experience
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that. And it's very easy to sit here
and say, you know, I'd have played so much better if I
played in in that team, which, you know, might not actually be
the case. But I think he would have been
able to push me to have real conviction about what I was my
identity, I would say, in Test cricket.
I think that's something I nevernailed was like, how am I meant?
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I thought I was meant to play a certain way sometimes.
And even I'd say throughout my whole first class career when I
was at Somerset and Lancashire as well, I kind of never maybe
knew my identity. And I think maybe Baz would have
helped me sort of find that. And even if I didn't find that,
he would have made me fail in a way that would have maybe been
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the best way to do that. But would I be open to a return?
I just, I wouldn't. I don't think it's even a
question. You know, I think my time's been
and gone. You look at that team now, it's
a really settled line up, I think, which is really exciting
for for that Test team. And yeah, and that wicketkeeper
role. I think Jamie Smith's going to
be an amazing Test match #7 I know there'll be, he could bat
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higher up, he's that good a player.
But I think in that role he doesas well as it's amazing.
But yeah, I think like I say, timing's massive thing in
cricket. And you know, you never know,
it's easy in hindsight to say, yes, it would have been the
making of me to play in, in thatdressing room under McCullum.
But, and it might not, but it certainly probably would have
been a, a great way to find out if that was the the best way for
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me to to be as a Test cricketer.And that's actually one thing.
I'm loving the fact that he's now coach of the white ball
stuff as well because you know, Baz does have this or and this
sort of I know I think he's got a bit of a special something.
It's great to be around him and and I'm loving just getting to
spend time with him as a coach, even even in the white ball
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stuff. Yeah, I look at like Harry
Brooke as an example, hugely talented, one of the best young
players that I bowled to in the Nets and things like that.
But with the timing of his international Chris starting
when Bars and Stokes are in charge, I think has taken him
what an amazing way to start your career, like to bed in
those principles and those characteristics that early is
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lucky for him in a sense, because there'll be certain
scenarios that or change rooms that he might not have cultures
that he might not have been ableto play the way he has done.
But yeah, it's really special. I look at Baz and think almost
like a thank you to like beddingin some principles to our young
players that we should see the value of for 10-15 years.
So it's, yeah, it's pretty cool.But yeah, I'm a big believer in
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sport. That's about timing at times.
And there's a good question actually, from Jesse Darwin.
I'm going to ask you, because you've got the trifecta, what's
better, winning the Ashes, the 50 over World Cup or the 20 over
World Cup? I would say I think my own
personal experience of winning the Ashes was it was a bit
bittersweet because my own performances were not great.
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I probably got so caught up in the whole thing and I didn't
perform the way I wanted to, even though I was part of a, an
Ashes winning team. So I kind of have a bit of a
bittersweet feeling towards that, which you'd probably
better to answer because you've,you know, played in some amazing
Ashes series and won those and contributed fantastically.
So I'm sure that would be a different feeling.
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But the World Cup for me, 2019 was just incredible.
And and it so that for me, of the things I've won, 2019 would
be top, the 2022 T 20 World Cup would be second and the Ashes
would be third. But yeah, they're all all very
different. Hard to sort of, you know, pick.
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It's a great place to be. And when I sort of say it like
that, I've never really thought of it to say, well, I've been in
teams that have won all three ofthose things.
But 2019 was just a special timewith a special group of guys who
we were all great mates. We built that team over 4 years
to win at Lord's in the fashion we did.
It's just he can't beat that forme.
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So yeah, that would be that would be the one for me.
But I know other people would have played in Asher's series.
You're part of that team that won down in Australia.
I mean, that must be most incredible feeling when I.
Look at some of the moments thatbrought me so much joy in my in
my career. I do look at the feeling I had
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in Bridgetown, Barbados, Englandversus Australia World Cup
final. It's just short.
It was a short, sharp tournament, you know, three
weeks in, whereas an Ashley series, you're doing it for like
a set 8-9 weeks. You know, this was OK, we're in.
We've got to, we've got to perform each day, move on to
another island, go again. This final arrived and I was
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actually. Right behind Paul Collingwood is
our captain, walking out for thenational anthems.
And the mascots came and you hold the mascots hand and walk
out and what's your name? And Paul Collingwood just in
front of me and got a little girl, so what's your name?
And she goes lucky and you just turn around to the whole team
and goes boys, it's our day. And it was like, it was like
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went down the line lads, colleagues, mascot called lucky.
That's hard day, it's hard day. And we sang the anthem and seen
the anthem. It felt like a Home group game.
Although we're in Barbados, the crowd was amazing in England,
Australia, big rivalry, but you're in Barbados and we got 3
wickets in the power play early.So we're flying.
The atmosphere is amazing and running on the outfield.
Having won that trophy, it was, it felt a different type of
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emotion in the Ashes. The Ashes like graft and history
and like this was just ultimate joy all on one day, all on one
day. So I look back and you know what
an what an amazing place to do it as well to have that sort of
memory from Barbados, a wonderful place to go and visit.
So the different feelings, I think that it's a different way
of looking at the things. But definitely the, I'm saying
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the T20 World Cup was my best day of my career.
But I do look at that with a huge amount of joy.
There's the jeopardy I think in the final of, like I said, that
one day, one game of cricket that at the end of this someone
is going to lift the trophy. And the other team is going.
To and the other team is going to be absolutely gutted and, you
know, been so close yet so far so and there's something I
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always thought about time in cricket, you know, and like time
and I always used to think that and these the finals I've played
in, I'm like, you're sort of in the moment, be like, Oh my God,
in three hours time someone is going to lift that World Cup and
it might be us, it might be them.
And like you get tense, but you're like, you know what, in
two hours, 3 hours, like we'll know the result.
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You know, you say in ashes, it might be over six weeks, seven
weeks. Whereas that just instant, the
nerves of arriving at the groundand knowing that you're either
going to walk away as a runner'sup or with a medal and winners
is, yeah, there's a real jeopardy in that, which is,
yeah, I think, like I said, different.
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But yeah, winning a World Cup isquite a cool thing to say, too.
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