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Can Stewart tell us about getting hit for six sixes in and
over by Yuvraj? Cheers, Rob.
Great question. Brody, what are your top three
Saturday songs? Can I give you 1?
How many England WhatsApp groupsare there?
Yeah, Stokes, he sort of finished the group with a can't
read the rest of that. Sachin Tendulkar or Jack Callis.
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This episode is brought to you by Latheway.
It's Colin Jose. Put yourself a glass.
Thank you. Settle in and join us for the
love of cricket. Sounds good.
Beautiful. This is going to be the first
episode of our Q&A's. I'm Stuart Broad and he's Josh
Butler, and I'm trying to do that while pouring a glass
left-handed. And we've had thousands of
questions, loads of them coming through Instagram channels.
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So please keep them coming. So every month, in partnership
with Laithwaites, we're going tobe answering the best ones.
So we've got a glass of Sauvignon Blanc.
I look professional. To get us through.
What do you think? Give me your expert.
Oh, he's having a swig because your expert.
Is that I'm and spit it back out.
My expert opinion. Very nice, very I feel like
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schooner scorer here. Very smooth, easy drinking.
Lime, lime zesty. A bit of fish with that.
Bit of fish. Nice, happy for it.
Bring it next. Podcast, right?
Shall I flick through some of these best questions we've come.
What should we start with? I'm going to go with so Joe has
sent one through my mate Josh run me out at the weekend.
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He called for a second that definitely wasn't on.
How long am I supposed to be grumpy for?
I think my question to add on tothis, have you ever been run
out? Yeah, I've been run out loads of
times. I think the when I, you know,
most gutted about is when Ben Stokes ran me out at Headingley
as part of his amazing rescue act.
You know, if he didn't run me out there, it could have been
me. So yeah.
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You could have been the one out.You could have been the.
Jack Leach Well, hopefully I would have scored more than one,
but yeah, I was thinking 150. Yeah, Ben Stokes get there.
But yeah, that run out there that no one will ever remember.
But how long should he be grumpyfor it?
Well, I think I want to hear more about this run out.
What was it? I can't remember it.
Yes. No.
Nathan Lyon was bowling and Stokes, he's like turned it into
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the leg side. I don't and Travis headers yeah,
so a yes no. So he's called me through I've
set off Travis headers picked upI'm sure he's at mid wicket and
sort of one of those I've turnedand I've known that there's no
way I'm going to be back into I need him to miss the stamps.
But yeah, underarm flick, directit.
And I remember, you know, obviously Stokes, he played the
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most amazing innings that we've ever seen and all the emotions
of watching that. And the first thing he said to
me is, Oh my God, I'm so sorry for running you out.
Daily straight. Away.
Yeah, and like, you know, he's just played the best thing he's
ever won the won the match by himself and yeah, typical that
he would remember. Oh yeah, that's great, but sorry
for running you out. And the grumpiness.
How long were you grumpy for that day?
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Not long that day. I don't think I was going to
affect the game too much really,but I feel like Joe should be
quite grumpy. Yeah, you know, it's if you've
waited all week to go out there on a Saturday and your mates ran
you out for and there's never a 2 pages.
Subs. Pages, Subs.
I'm sure there must have been a pint of something or a glass of
wine at the end of the day as anapology and that would probably
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suffice the the grumpiness for me, yeah.
I don't remember getting run outtoo many.
I didn't last long enough to give the feel of the chance to
run me out. But Chris Woakes did me a
Chittagong flat pitch, spinners,bowling both ends, which was my
dream, you know, no one could hit me on the head.
And he dabbed it to backward point.
Not his call because in cricket normally that's a non striker.
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Dabbed it to backward point. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No. And as he as he called, no, he
then kept coming. So we both had that that stuff
to. Do we?
Don't we? And I I carried on going.
My thought was I'm better off getting run out instead of Chris
Woakes because he can actually score some runs.
And I got halfway run out and I just remember walking off going.
That's really sad. It's just a sad moment.
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It's not going to affect the game.
It's not going to affect the Test series.
This is so flat. Spinners are bowling hot, Nice
batting conditions. If you're ever going to enjoy
batting. It's now run out for like 10,
you know, Bit devastating, but Iwasn't grumpy.
Really hurt you that. It's only because it's the only
one I can properly remember, but.
Favorite run out you ever seen? I thought you were going to say
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that I ever get. I can't even remember getting
around myself, but probably. Well, you mentioned that because
it's yours. No, it's got.
To be 2019 World Cup final. Isn't it?
That's a good one, but I was going to say Gary Pratt.
Gary Pratt watching. It's got to be you gathering
that bobbling ball. Lord's World Cup final 2019,
taking it, flipping it to the other hand, diving full stretch,
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taking the stumps. But.
You've sold that well. That'll be it.
Question from Mehir, which will be a great one for you?
What makes a good batting partner and what makes a bad
one? Good question, what makes a good
batting partner? So the only time I actually
scored proper runs I got 160 oddat Lords was with Jonathan Trott
and he was quite unique. Didn't see this that often from
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other batters that he only ever worked in fives, so he was never
discussing conditions or scoreboard necessarily.
He just wanted to work in five runs.
So we tap gloves and go right three more to get that five, get
that five. He'd come down, OK, we need to
reset the five, let's go. And he hit four, OK, one run,
get this one run, you get the 1.So it's so meticulous in how his
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mindset operated. I found it quite stressful
batting with it, getting that five, but the only time I
properly batted within my 160. So it sort of works, if that
makes sense. So yeah, he, he was the one I
had the biggest partnership with.
So I say he's the best, worst, worst in a good way was Graham
Swan in the fact we just egged each other on the whole time.
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So if I hit a four, he'd come down and go, I can beat that,
I'll better that. Yeah.
So like I'd hit one through the covers on the floor, he'd come
down smiling and say I'm going over the top next ball, you
know. So it was, it was sounds like we
were playing club cricket, Test match cricket for England.
But we had some great partnerships.
But he definitely got me out a lot where I'd be thinking, OK,
he's just hit a six, so I've gota hit a six and I get out.
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Helpful. Worst batting partner.
I think I remember 2013, Mitchell Johnson was bowling
really quick in that one day series.
It just proceeded when he bowledrapid in Australia in that Ashes
and I've gone out to bat and he's bowling I think round the
wicket. Ravi Bapara and Ravi's tried to
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pull this short ball and he's got to, you know, his barely got
picked his bat up and it smackedhis stickers and dropped to the
floor. And then like only the way Ravi
can just walked down and gone. Geez, that's quick, dog.
And I just remember thinking like, I'm scared enough as it
is. And Rav's just like nothing
worse than a batting partner telling you like, how far
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someone's bowling. And especially when the actually
it wasn't at the Rose Bowl. So you are behind, but when
you're watching side on and people are bowling rapid and
then you get out there and you just want your mate to go,
that's not as quick as it looks.And they're like, Nah, this is
proper quick. So that's something I don't
really enjoy. But the best partner.
I really loved batting with OwenMorgan in one day Cricket,
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thought we like complement each other well, left hand, right
hand, very simple. You're not like giving each
other too many sort of words, but you know, when you've played
with someone a lot and small sort of sentences or just words
like mean a lot more like just so we always just say like,
let's just get a partnership going.
But and it's such a doesn't really mean much, but to the two
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of us, we knew exactly what thatentailed and sort of the follow
up questions from what that would be.
So he was a a great partner to avery level.
But the other thing I don't likeabout bank parts is when they
just don't give you much at all.It's sort of like that.
They don't really talk to you ortell you what's going on.
It's a bit dismissive or you sort of, you know, you go down
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and make great shot and they're just like, yeah, and just.
Which I imagine could happen more in franchise cricket when
you don't play with the same guys all the time.
With England, you're you're playing with O'morgan all the
time. Yeah, franchises.
If you play for 5-6 franchises in a year, there's going to be
guys you don't know at all. Yeah, of course.
And that is sort of, you know, natural that you don't really
expect too much or maybe the conversation won't be absolutely
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flowing. But there's even then there's
still guys you like really enjoybatting with and guys that you
saw Sebastian was someone I really loved batting with.
And this IPL just gone very positive, very nice manner about
and we didn't speak loads, but sort of also a good player that
you know, he's going to score runs.
And you just sort of have that great trust in the guy at the
other end that even if you're struggling, you know he's going
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to he's going to be all right aswell.
But the other thing you get usedto in the IPL is it's not just a
touch gloves, it's you got a tapbat, then touch gloves.
So that's quite a franchise thing.
But then you come back to playing for England and you sort
of get we're quite good at awkward handshakes, but I get
left with my bat sort of waitingfor a tap.
But yeah, that's that's batting partners.
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Josh and I had this thing where we send each other videos all
the time of awkward handshakes, don't we?
If there's ever an awkward handshake, we know about it
within 30 seconds, don't we? Absolutely.
It's like the most cringe thing that we.
Sort of came from when you're shaking.
Her I feel like I can get back at you with the Frank Lampard
story. Tell me about the shaking hands
with Jamie Redknapp at Wimbledon.
Oh, no, I don't. Yeah, you can get back at me
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here. So I was at Wimbledon with my
mum and Jamie Redknapp was walking around the concourse, I
suppose, and bumped into, I knewa little bit from, from
different things. So we bump into each other.
We're chatting away about the tennis and about what's been
going on. It's all right, we're going to
shoot. And I put my hand out to shake
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his and he had a broken wrist. So he's got a plastic cast on it
so he can't really move his hand.
So he puts it out as if to say, like, I've got broken wrists.
And I didn't really know what todo.
So I just grabbed the end of it and just like shook the plastic
cast. And as I was doing it again,
what am I doing? Yeah, why am I doing this?
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And he walked away and I was like, ah, cheers.
Sorry about that. And I mean, I think I called you
the next day saying, you know how much we love these awkward
handshakes. I've just done one absolute
shocker. But I think our love of awkward
handshakes came from where you shake hands with every player at
the end of every game. There's so many times where some
players go handouts, some go normal, some you just grab the
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fingers off and it's just just horrendous.
So yeah. If you fancy a treat on YouTube,
try and catch Owen Morgan shaking hands.
I was at Scotland captain 2015 World Cup.
That was like the sort of, yeah,the on, you know, am I doing the
toss or am I shaking hands? I'm here there.
But yeah, treat yourself. It's good.
I've got a question from Claire.Good question actually.
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What's the best catch you've seen taken live in training?
Is it possible the best catch inhistory was actually never
caught on camera? I reckon there's a good chance
that actually recently in Pakistan in the Champions Trophy
training, Adeel Rashid took one of the most spectacular catches
I've ever seen. And you know the sort of drill
where I think Paul Collingwood'shitting them.
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He's tossing it up to himself asif he's A and rash would be at
backward point. So so if some is straight at
you, some fly past you and it's just go for everything and dilly
from nowhere has just leapt likeprime John T Rhodes full stretch
to his right and taken an absolute hanger.
And maybe it feels better because, you know, it wasn't a
Ben Stokes or someone who sort of is always taking those type
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of catches in training. I remember Baz saying to me like
that's unbelievable. Where's the content team?
Have they caught that because and they weren't anywhere.
And he's like, so disappointing.The best catch, you know, we've
ever seen. No, no one's ever gonna see it.
So I'm sure there are others like that out there.
Can you think of any that you'veseen?
No, no, just in the fact that I remember that 2019 World Cup
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Game 1 Stokes, he took that catch over his head and it was
incredible. Like when you see that on the
field, but when you train with him every day, he takes that
sort of catch in training. So I think just shows the
standard that he keeps himself to is that he would take that
sort of standard of catch fortnightly.
But it's just because it was on the world's biggest stage, it
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becomes such a great catch. It was an unbelievable catch.
But he just, he just does thingsso regularly, like that reverse
hand sort of catch that makes itsort of outrageously special,
really. Question from Tim, I really like
this one. If you were the Ryder Cup
captain and you could only pick England cricketers, who would
you send out on Sunday and who would you send out last?
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Gosh, you might need a bit of time to think about that so I
can go because I've prepped it, I've done this.
Not really. Prepped it.
I've I just saw that question coming and but so I've done this
not on their actual like golfingability, but as if like they
were cricketer golfers, if that makes sense.
So my Ryder Cup captain is MM Brierley.
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OK, so. Reasons why?
Just because he's, I've read that he's the best captain ever
and you know, got the best out of both of them and he's going
to be able to manage all these big egos that I've got in this
lineup so. So anyone you mentioned here you
thinks got a big ego? No, he's can manage a few of
them. He's got big egos.
You're in there. So just he's sending out Cook
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and Strauss after each one and two, Cook and Strauss, I think
great opening partnership. So we'll calm.
The nerves. Calm the nerves, get out early 2
solid solid players you know no frills, so take the take the
energy out of the. You'll write these down here
just so I get a real visual of what what's coming my way here.
And then I'm going to go the complete opposite in my third
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pick is Johnny Bairstow, who's going to start really revving up
the crowd and revving up the opposition.
And he'll, you know, his eyes will go and he'll be so in the
zone that he he never loses fromthat kind of position.
Yeah, I know we're meant to be talking about who's got last,
but I'll get there. Then I'm going for a bit of
flair with both them and Flintoff following each other.
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You know, the Bairstow's got them angry and now both of them
and Flintoff are really going tostart showing everything off and
the crowd will be going absolutely wild, you know,
middle of that Ryder Cup Sunday.You need to calm it down a
little bit so. Where we at now?
This is number 6 now, so I'm sliding Owen Morgan out there.
Number six, No emotion, No emotion.
Deadpan. The Iceman.
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You won't even look at his partner that he's playing
against. We'll just get the job.
Got a wild slicing him but. Yeah, well, he's not doing his
actual goal. We're just doing the and then,
you know, to bring it in the final six, I'm going to
completely swap it from morgues and go KP #7 then I've got #8
Jacob Bethel. You know, there's always that
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wild card pick, isn't there? In the Ryder Cup, the young,
he's Ludwig Eberg. And Oberg have you set in in
this one? And then quite a pressurised
little, yeah, but he's sort of in the mix of Morgan, KP.
Then Bethel's just sort of that,no one really keeping an eye on
it. But if he has an absolute gun
session, he's like wins 5:00 and4:00 and it's Flair and he's the
youngster who's. Really have thought about this,
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have you? It's a long train journey and so
then we've got Jimmy #9 route number Jimmy. #9 because he wore
#9 chair. Is that your?
No, but that works route at #10 no one like the pressure's
cutting now. It was the pressure's coming on.
He's cool and cut and actually his golf game, he's got
brilliant short game and I thinkof those.
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He's got to chip it over a bunk cutting.
Yeah, there's Ryder cut moments where it's like McElroy, that
unbelievable chip on 16 or 17. Beginly at the belfry, yeah.
That's Joe Root and then to yourcredit, you are there at #11
Broad and Stokes, two guys that when the big moments come, built
you up here. I'm hoping that the rest of them
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have still got you in the the match at this point.
You're not just playing those pointless 2 matches at the end
that, you know, the Ryder Cups are already gone.
But when the big moments come, the pressure comes on 1718 Broad
and Stokes to see us home. So that's quite a comprehensive
answer. It's fairly comprehensive.
Yeah. Yeah, it did put something
thought. Who are you sending out last?
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How can I follow that you've? Got to send out someone last.
You definitely. I mean that whole the whole
theory on route pressure game, being able to just be really
skillful and Stokes, you know, clutch, clutch.
You think World Cup finals 2019,the way he batted, Headingley
19-T20, World Cup final 22, nipping around everywhere, the
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way he saw that home, All those moments are just him.
So made for that Ryder Cup Sunday.
So I completely agree. I can't.
Actually can't. Think if you were Ryder Cup
captain, would you see I was thinking about this because I.
Do you front? Load.
Yeah. Do you just go?
Because I'm like, what if we've left Stokes till last and he
doesn't even get his point? Doesn't matter.
Yeah, good question. And the Americans don't.
They tend to front load it a. Little that's what I'd go for.
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Just get all the big guns out early.
I just, I love the drama at the end.
You got to back the sort of backall the players at the, I mean
back all the players at the first half to hold it together.
So that brings the the drama andthe energy at the back end.
So while I was prepping and taking you through my Ryder Cup
12 and who goes out last, you'vehad a couple of sips on the
wine. What do you make of it?
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Beautiful. Yeah, it's, it's part of my
range beyond the wicket and it'sI tried to incorporate countries
that I'd been to and had great memories from.
So New Zealand was one of them, synonymous with Sauvignon Blanc.
And you'd normally think Marlborough, but this is from
Nelson, a neighboring area. I wanted part of my wine
collection. I wanted it to be places that
were slightly different, a bit of intrigue.
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I had in my mind. My mum with this one, she always
drinks Sauvignon Blanc, but we'll always just order the safe
one. I wanted to branch her mind out
and think, OK, I've not heard ofNelson, maybe I want to try it.
And yeah, I'm really proud of, of this wine connecting,
connecting with my cricketing memories of of New Zealand, one
of my favourite countries in theworld, and I hope you enjoy it
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as much as I do. New Zealand, yeah, country we
both love to. I know you've for cricket and
wine and actually I still think I've played the best cricket
shot I've ever played in my life.
There wasn't necessarily in a big game.
It was AT20, England versus New Zealand, A sort of warm up game.
Neil Wagner was bowling round the wicket and had everyone up
on the offside and I sort of backed away and it was trying,
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he was trying to attempt to York.
I knew that was what he was going to bowl and I'd sort of
thought if I open the face of mybat in my grip.
Pre setup. Yeah, before he bowls the ball
and I just sort of play this normal kind of shot that will
slice over the offside. He's just missed his Yorker.
I've backed away and as I've like, hit it, the face is so
open and I've like flipped my wrists and somehow it sailed
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over cover for six. And that was one of those
moments where it's like, happened.
I can't believe that's happened.That is exactly how I saw it
happening. And yeah, I still think it's the
favorite shot I've ever played, just as a pure cricket shot, Not
necessarily the game or the situation, but as a cricket
shop. So yeah, very fond memories of
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New Zealand. This Sauvignon Blanc, Jose from
New Zealand, from Nelson, It's part of our For the Love of
Cricket case, which you'll be able to buy from
lathwaites.co.uk next week. We'll post a link in our
stories. We're going to do 3 whites and
three Reds. The whites for white Bull
cricket that you're going to choose and the Reds for Red Bull
cricket, Test match cricket, which I will choose.
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So you have chosen this this wine.
Yeah, Sauvignon Blanc, New Zealand.
I think you've mentioned what a great place it is to go and play
cricket. All the wines will be from
places that we have played, get in quick before it's all gone
because it's going to be Lathwaite's most popular wine
case. That's a direct quote.
Absolute. So it big, big billboard.
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Big Reveal not not sold one of them yet.
So it. Biggest ever.
You've done you've done wine cases before.
This is new for me. This is for the love of cricket
wine case. It's going to be branded up is
going to be so popular. No matching how popular this pot
is. You'll love it.
You'll you'll get people going to friends.
Ohh can I try some of your wine?Well, yeah, you can buy it send
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in the link, but they'll they'llexpect freebies.
You'll have a bit of pressure onthat, but it's a.
Discount. It's a nice.
Pressure to For the love of cricket 10% and it's classic.
We just made that up as well. There's a lot of giving 10% of
off off to everyone now. Lifeways are not me.
Just as a disclaimer, no one is promising 10% unless Joss is
going to chip in for that off everyone.
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Nope. Right, we have got a great
question from Kate which all ourcricket followers will want to
know. Broadly, what are your top three
Saturday songs? Can I give you 1?
Yeah, I think it's the one I like.
Well, I higher was the number one, wasn't it higher with Flo
Rider was the number one, But I I like that.
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Sit down with your ego is a niceone.
But what about us is my favorite.
That's the one that, you know, aBBQ or a bit of a party comes on
and I feel like with The Saturdays and I'm like very
proud of Molly for that. But I feel like when the songs
coming, Oh, this is a good one. And then everyone comes.
Oh yeah, I remember this one. This is quite a good one.
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Well, I say better than quite a good one to her.
But yeah, they've had some good factors, I think.
Is that the one that starts withSean Paul?
Yeah, Sean Paul. Yeah, Sean Paul's on it.
Or Chanda Chanda, Chanda Paul. Yeah, so that is for the love of
cricket's favorite one, Chanda, but.
For people don't know that it actually genuinely is.
Did you hear that? That's genuine, he says.
Chanda Paul, not Sean Paul. It's because Shivran Chanda Paul
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is one of the West Indies greatest ever batters.
And is it just because it's sortof rhymed with Sean Paul?
Well, you're telling me this is,well, we need to ask Molly, does
she know that, that it's actually Chanda Paul?
There's no way Molly will know who Shivran Chanda Paul is.
Do you know who Sean Paul is? I feel like we're getting really
confused with the Sean Paul, Shivran Chanda Paul thing.
But I think Sean Paul's come outand said he says Chanda Paul
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because he heard a crowd chanting Chanda Paul at the
cricket and he said that really links nicely to my songs.
Not that he just loves Chanda Paul.
Not that he loves Chanda Paul. Does she ever catch you singing
for you Saturday song Shannon House?
Do you know what? We had a nice on YouTube she I
showed Annabella because Annabella's now 2 1/2 and his
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Love's dancing around and I put on a Saturday song and she was
just like mummy, mummy, Mummy, which was really sweet.
But we don't, we don't play themon a regular occurrence, if I'm
honest. Does the phrase sit down with
your ego ever get used around the house?
No, no, I don't think it does. She doesn't say that with The
Saturdays sort of song title involved in it.
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But no, I don't have an ego, do I?
Just a little one question from Rob.
Can Stuart tell us about gettinghit for six sixes in and over by
you've Roger? We get that all the time.
Cheers, Rob, Great question. I think that that's probably a
whole podcast really isn't it's quite a big long story.
(23:06):
It's quite hard to explain in one or two moments, but we'll
we'll definitely come back to that at some stage because it
what's your favorite saying? A deep dive.
We need a bit of a deep dive into that one and what on earth
happened there in Durban with the bulls we'll get.
Your virgin as well. Get his get his input in it.
I'm just promising a lot of yeah, I do promise a lot on this
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pod. I've had two of wine and we got
10% off and you've had Singh. You're you're.
A real promising move. Anything for the likes.
Yeah, just another disclaimer you've had.
Singh hasn't guaranteed he's coming on this podcast to
explain why he managed to middleevery single ball off me for an
over. But we can, we can wish
disclaimer, but. We will send him a case of For
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the Love of Cricket by Lathwaite's wine and he will
probably join us. Why does that feel like you're
reading it but you're not reading it?
Right. Next question is from George.
How many England WhatsApp groupsare there?
Is there one for the Test team, one day team and the T20 team?
Is there one for logistics or one for actual cricket chat?
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Brody, as a bowler, do you have your own WhatsApp group?
Give George all the insight on WhatsApp.
Well, you're probably more likely to know this.
It moves so quickly, doesn't it?But yeah, there's definitely a
logistics one that the team manager will tell you about time
the bus leaves, where the flightis, what time the team chat is,
etcetera. There's certainly one just for
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the Test team. There must be one for the one
day. Probably one day and T20 the
same or they split. Yeah, it tends to just, I think
change the name of the group as it change, you know, kick the
odd one out and that's when you know, you've been booted and
you're out the group for a little bit.
When it changes from one day as to T 20s or whatever.
Or if you've been in a a squad, you know, when the team managers
getting really annoyed with sortof when people flood that group
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with just general chitchat of like who wants a coffee or who's
going out for dinner. When they turn off that you
can't reply to it and you're sort of like, because their
logistics gets lost in the riff raff of like what time leave for
golf or where where we're eating.
So they actually turn off that you can't reply on that.
Group so I love the passive aggressive you know if some if
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they put the leave time and the bus time everything and then
someone goes what time leave in the morning and it's just a like
a quote of the previous time it's.
Already told you, but. Yeah, the bowlers, I don't think
we do have a separate group. Generally the bowling chats,
they're, they're in person, so it'll be on that big admin
group. Bowlers meet at 5:00 in the team
room and you'll just go and talk.
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It's very rare. Are you on WhatsApp going?
How does Steve Smith get out again?
You know, it's, it's very much in person.
Watch a bit of video. So when you retired from playing
for England, did you get that? Did you feel like, oh, I'm going
to leave the group or did you get boosted out or did you just
was it? Is that when your retirement hit
you and you know there was another squad announced and you
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just weren't added to a WhatsApp?
Group, so two days. So I retired on the Monday night
and then on the Wednesday I was had to be at Lourdes for some
commentary that I'd put in, you know, months and months and
months previous. And I went with my players,
England players accreditation toLourdes, scanned it and I just
got this red crossword not allowed in so already.
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Instant. Instant like cut bang, he's
gone. So my accreditation didn't work
straight away. So I had to wait at the gate
while people from Sky sort of came running out with a new
accreditation. Actually I might check the
WhatsApp groups now. I type in sort of test.
I don't know if I'm still on. It still ghost in there.
Test team. I'm sure someone would.
OK, Test. Test team news ashes.
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So I don't actually do you know what this is?
Messages this has never been getinto see how how you doing lads?
This has never been closed Ashesand the last and back 30th of
August 2023. It's no great exclusive.
Yeah yeah, Stokes. He sort of finished the group
with a just a well done lads. I can't read the rest of that.
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I'll tell you privately. So Dan's asked our cricket
players. Selfish.
I play village cricket. I get 2 days off work and I
choose to spend one of those standing in a field watching
other people bat. Does that make me a bad person
now? I think it makes you an
excellent person. Village cricket?
They're the best days. You like Test cricket?
International cricket Special? They were.
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Look back to your club cricket days.
How good were they? I used to put the flags around
the boundary, unlock the scoreboard.
If you got out early, you're at square leg for 10 overs.
They were great days, weren't they?
Yeah, great days and just I think everyone can always relate
to those like you say, the boundary markers, you know, what
is it right for runs And the other way playing that like
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bowls game against the flags, certain people make a great tee.
I think Tees were always the highlight of club cricket for
me, knowing you know someone's mum was on the Tees this next
week. You know they stopped it's
spread really they stopped sinceCOVID.
You have to bring your own like meal deal.
That's absolutely. I think we should like, what
about starting a campaign to getit get cricket Tees back?
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Bring back cricket Tees. Dan finished his question.
Does this make me a bad person if he chooses to stand in the
field watching other people? But that that makes you a great
teammate, doesn't it? You're selfish if you get out,
bugger off home, not seen again.But I think if you're watching,
supporting your teammate saying do do you want to join anything
ready in the change room after? Do you want you take Sanchez,
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bring it to you? So now it makes him not selfish
at all, actually makes you a great teammate.
Dan, I've got another question. Actually.
Anthony Clapham messaged me saying how does it work with the
pros in club cricket? You're trying each other's bats.
Do the pros swap bats with each other?
Is it, you know, if you take 10 on tour, do you have people
looking around your bats and going, Oh yeah, I fancy a bit of
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that? Yeah, you do, actually.
You get loads of people wanting to.
There's certain characters in a dressing room.
Sorry. So there'll be guys who want to
look at everyone's kit. Marcus Trus Gothic is the coach
now and he's still the biggest bat Nuffy ever.
Anyone gets a new bat, He's in there looking at it.
What about this? How's the pickup?
I never had one like that. The shape of this, the grains
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are like this, the profile, etcetera, etcetera.
And they'll always be someone who's sort of like in the
dressing room is perceived to have the best bats.
And I actually never liked to dothis.
I did it once I started looking at someone else bat and it just
completely sweded me out. I was out there batting and my
bats are great and I was scoringruns.
But then I looked at some, oh, is these good bats or should my
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bat be like this? Should my bat be like that?
So I make it a point to sort of never really pick up other
people's bats and look at other bats.
I've got mine. I'm not going to swap them with
anyone. I'm very happy with my bats.
But other cricketers love the tinkering and they love sort of,
you know, the stickers and changing stickers sometimes.
And also it's quite a mental thing around the IPL, there's
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quite a big thing about like, and the players actually tend to
like gifting bats. They feel good for gifting you a
bat. And if someone used it then and
went out and scored runs with it, well, I feel good for that
because it's the bat I, I gave you.
And there's certain players obviously that out there, they
absolutely dream of getting Virat Kohli's bat or Rohit
Sharma's bat, Syria's bat. And it's still a bat, just a
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piece of word. But it's like comes with this
aura, doesn't it, that it's so and so's bat and we, I think we
all believe that there's sort oflike a secret store for the best
players that where the very bestwood is kept.
There's a bat maker that they only roll out for five or six
players in the world. And if you can get one of those
bats, then you'll have no dramasscoring runs.
Question from Nagesh, we've beenfollowing the podcast on
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Instagram. And Josh, you seem to have a
love for AB Devilliers. What makes him so good?
Yeah, absolutely love AB, Huge hero of mine.
Just the style of player he was with the bat, with the gloves in
the field. I really like that and I just
think for me, and this is only my opinion and I know there'll
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be loads of other opinions telling me I'm wrong, but I
believe AB de Villiers is the most complete batsman to have
ever played the game. I think you could throw him into
a Test match and ask him to savethe game and score, you know,
ten runs off 200 balls. And I think he's got the game,
the defence, the mindset to be able to do that.
And you could throw him into AT20 and say, you know, we're
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chasing 15 and over for the last6 overs and you need to walk in
and, and win that game. And, and I think he can do it.
I feel like any sort of situation or scenario or shot,
he's got it. Didn't you have a moment where
you sat down with him, with Lou,your wife?
Yeah, that's sort of a bit of a killer as well, wasn't it?
So ABS been this hero of mine and I sort of, you know, he's
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really again, generous with his time.
And I got to know him a little bit playing against him.
And we were in Mumbai playing for Mumbai Indians at the time.
We were playing against RCB at the the Wankhede Stadium.
And both teams are staying in the same hotel.
And lots of, you know, players will sort of congregate in the
bar after the match and just have a, a drink.
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It's one of the great things about cricket, isn't it, that
share a drink with the opposition and chat about the
game or whatever. And at the ground, AB had said
to me, let's have a beer in the bar and sort of I'm completely
starstruck like this is my hero got the chance to like go and
meet him. So lose out watching the the
IPL. So I get back, I'm like quick
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shower up, get changed. We're going straight to the bar.
We're going to meet AB de Villiers.
He wants to have a a beer. I'm like, so it's just at cool.
Like, I know I'm nervous, but just, you know, pretend, play it
cool, play it cool. Absolutely don't fall through
the bar. And so we've got in there.
He's. Yeah.
What do you want to drink? Having a beer.
And it's really nice. I'm not really saying much
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because I'm just like, a bit nervous and just goes quiet.
And Lou just goes, oh, So what part of New Zealand are you
from? And I've just heard this.
And I go, Oh, my God, like, how do I rescue that?
Like it's one of like, South Africa's most famous ever sports
people when my wife's just askedhim, you know, what part of New
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Zealand he's from. So I don't really know how we
rescued that. And probably, yeah, I just went
to that thinking he'll never speak to me ever again.
But yeah, he's sort of really given a lot of EB love there,
haven't I? I think he's a a brilliant,
brilliant player. Must be one of the best you
bowled against. Definitely.
Yeah, you're right. That situational thing for him.
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He could sweep you in a one day game out on the ground, but also
he could save a game and shut up.
Sharp, technically gifted, but amagical sports person all around
I think. I don't know the exact stats of
his swimming and tennis when he was a kid, but he was, he was
amazing. I played paddle against him the
same commentary team, SA-20, andI'm a beginner.
I was thinking it gave me an insight into his competitive
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spirit as well, because I'm a beginner, just trying to get it
back. And he's really good, Plays
three or four times a week. And every time I'd sort of just
get it back in the night, almostlike a film like charge, like
smash it, point over, you know, it's like, oh, OK.
He just absolutely dominated this game of paddle like
athletic, like the way you move the the skill and precision he
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could put the ball. I know we're on cricket here,
but it just showed that now he'sretired from cricket, this
passion of natural taking over, just natural ability just
straight away just incredible atit.
No one could compete to his level at all.
So yeah, he's you get these people and you're one of them
that are just so naturally gifted.
Loads of different sports. I think he has to be the top of
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the tree of of that. Yeah, absolutely agree with that
question from Ali. Again, this one will divide
opinion, but let's get Brody's answer, Sachin Tendulkar or Jack
Callas. I think you have to go in your
team for balance. You have to go Callas for 300
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test wickets. I think he got average 58 with
the bat catch, caught everythingat slip.
He's probably in my opinion the greatest all round cricketer of
all time. But then you talk about winning
trophy, I mean Sachin winning the 2011 ODI World Cup in India
in Mumbai for for someone that that carried a nation, I suppose
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most famous, one of the most famous people in in India, the
pressure he played under compared to Callas.
And I've already named Callas asanswer this question.
But now the more I talk, I think, gosh, what Sachin dealt
with and coped with and kept thestandard 200 Test matches at #4
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I've gone back myself. I'm going to say Callas just
because I saw Ricky Ponting say hands down, Callas is the best
creator to have ever played the game.
I saw that in a recent interviewsomewhere, and I think maybe
because he's sort of that understated and we haven't
really seen much of him since he's retired maybe.
But when you put together, isn'this numbers the equivalent of an
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average like Tendulkar with the bat and Zaire Khan with the ball
in one cricketer? So it's pretty hard to if you're
having to pick a team and prettyhard to look past that.
Yeah, I agree. Question from Manisha.
Do you remember the first time you met Ms. Dhoni?
I don't actually remember maybe the exact first time that I ever
met him, but the first time I ever got to sort of interact
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with him and speak with him. It's quite surreal, isn't it?
When you meet these people, you're sort of bit, imagine it
sort of being like Madame Tussauds.
They like, they look real, but they're not real.
But, you know, I'm like, that's the actual Ms. Dhoni.
And he's, yeah, again, really generous with his time.
And I, How did you get so good at keeping wicket?
And why is your style as it is? In England, we're taught to sort
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of stay down with the ball. But when I watch you, you're
sort of up. And he said to me, sort of a
product of his environment when he first came into the team, he
was keeping wicket to Anil Kumble, you know, really fast
leg spin, a lot of top spin on the ball.
And he said when I was staying down, the ball just kept hitting
me on the shoulders. And I just thought this is if
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all the balls are going to be upthere, I may as well sort of be
in that position and be ready for it.
And he'd sort of say I'm then I'm in this position to catch
the ball when I'm closer to the stuff.
So I said also like, well, what practice can I do?
How can I do? And he just said to me, which is
great advice in one way, he saidkeeping should be fun.
Keeping should be something you do that's just really fun.
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You're involved in the game, especially up to the stumps
where the spinners are bowling. They're going to beat the bat.
You can get catches, you can getedges, as long as you can pick,
you know, which way someone's spinning it.
Just see it as an absolute time to show off and have fun and
relax and then, you know, worry about your batting and stuff
like that. And that's obviously coming from
a guy who at that stage is kept in international cricket for 15
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years. So but he said, no, I don't
really practice. And it's one of those things
when you watch an IPL game, you see Dhoni and it's like one of
those myths that go around the tournament, like he doesn't
practice his keeping. And then there's the highlight
reel, stumpings and all that stuff.
And yeah, and that's true to us.We already said no.
I just have fun when I'm keepingwicket.
And I remember from that point trying to take that more into my
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keeping because I used to. Sometimes as a wicket keeper,
you're a bit nervous to not makea mistake.
Everyone sort of looks at you like you've got gloves on,
should be easy to catch it and agood wicketkeeper should go
unnoticed. And if you know you only sort of
get talked about when you make amistake.
But it was a complete flip in mymindset of have fun, show off
like catch the ball and try and get close to the stumps and be
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quick with your stumpings etcetera.
So yeah, that was a really nice interaction I had with him.
Yeah, such a wonderful Ms. Dhonistory as a legend for a reason.
You know, loads of people talk so greatly about him, but
unfortunately, that is it for the end of our first Q&A episode
in partnership with Latheway. He's got loads of great
questions. I didn't think we'd be talking
so much about your Ryder Cup team question from Tim.
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That's a brilliant one, but I really enjoyed that.
Jose, thanks for sharing that. We'll do one of these every
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Great question. Brody, what are your top three
Saturday songs? Can I give you 1?
How many England WhatsApp groupsare there?
Yeah, Stokes, he sort of finished the group with a can't
read the rest of that. Sachin Tendulkar or Jack Callis.
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So we've got a glass of Sauvignon Blanc.
I look professional. To get us through.
What do you think? Give me your expert.
Oh, he's having a swig because your expert.
Is that I'm and spit it back out.
My expert opinion. Very nice, very I feel like
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schooner scorer here. Very smooth, easy drinking.
Lime, lime zesty. A bit of fish with that.
Bit of fish. Nice, happy for it.
Bring it next. Podcast, right?
Shall I flick through some of these best questions we've come.
What should we start with? I'm going to go with so Joe has
sent one through my mate Josh run me out at the weekend.
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He called for a second that definitely wasn't on.
How long am I supposed to be grumpy for?
I think my question to add on tothis, have you ever been run
out? Yeah, I've been run out loads of
times. I think the when I, you know,
most gutted about is when Ben Stokes ran me out at Headingley
as part of his amazing rescue act.
You know, if he didn't run me out there, it could have been
me. So yeah.
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You could have been the one out.You could have been the.
Jack Leach Well, hopefully I would have scored more than one,
but yeah, I was thinking 150. Yeah, Ben Stokes get there.
But yeah, that run out there that no one will ever remember.
But how long should he be grumpyfor it?
Well, I think I want to hear more about this run out.
What was it? I can't remember it.
Yes. No.
Nathan Lyon was bowling and Stokes, he's like turned it into
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the leg side. I don't and Travis headers yeah,
so a yes no. So he's called me through I've
set off Travis headers picked upI'm sure he's at mid wicket and
sort of one of those I've turnedand I've known that there's no
way I'm going to be back into I need him to miss the stamps.
But yeah, underarm flick, directit.
And I remember, you know, obviously Stokes, he played the
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most amazing innings that we've ever seen and all the emotions
of watching that. And the first thing he said to
me is, Oh my God, I'm so sorry for running you out.
Daily straight. Away.
Yeah, and like, you know, he's just played the best thing he's
ever won the won the match by himself and yeah, typical that
he would remember. Oh yeah, that's great, but sorry
for running you out. And the grumpiness.
How long were you grumpy for that day?
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Not long that day. I don't think I was going to
affect the game too much really,but I feel like Joe should be
quite grumpy. Yeah, you know, it's if you've
waited all week to go out there on a Saturday and your mates ran
you out for and there's never a 2 pages.
Subs. Pages, Subs.
I'm sure there must have been a pint of something or a glass of
wine at the end of the day as anapology and that would probably
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suffice the the grumpiness for me, yeah.
I don't remember getting run outtoo many.
I didn't last long enough to give the feel of the chance to
run me out. But Chris Woakes did me a
Chittagong flat pitch, spinners,bowling both ends, which was my
dream, you know, no one could hit me on the head.
And he dabbed it to backward point.
Not his call because in cricket normally that's a non striker.
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Dabbed it to backward point. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No. And as he as he called, no, he
then kept coming. So we both had that that stuff
to. Do we?
Don't we? And I I carried on going.
My thought was I'm better off getting run out instead of Chris
Woakes because he can actually score some runs.
And I got halfway run out and I just remember walking off going.
That's really sad. It's just a sad moment.
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It's not going to affect the game.
It's not going to affect the Test series.
This is so flat. Spinners are bowling hot, Nice
batting conditions. If you're ever going to enjoy
batting. It's now run out for like 10,
you know, Bit devastating, but Iwasn't grumpy.
Really hurt you that. It's only because it's the only
one I can properly remember, but.
Favorite run out you ever seen? I thought you were going to say
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that I ever get. I can't even remember getting
around myself, but probably. Well, you mentioned that because
it's yours. No, it's got.
To be 2019 World Cup final. Isn't it?
That's a good one, but I was going to say Gary Pratt.
Gary Pratt watching. It's got to be you gathering
that bobbling ball. Lord's World Cup final 2019,
taking it, flipping it to the other hand, diving full stretch,
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taking the stumps. But.
You've sold that well. That'll be it.
Question from Mehir, which will be a great one for you?
What makes a good batting partner and what makes a bad
one? Good question, what makes a good
batting partner? So the only time I actually
scored proper runs I got 160 oddat Lords was with Jonathan Trott
and he was quite unique. Didn't see this that often from
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other batters that he only ever worked in fives, so he was never
discussing conditions or scoreboard necessarily.
He just wanted to work in five runs.
So we tap gloves and go right three more to get that five, get
that five. He'd come down, OK, we need to
reset the five, let's go. And he hit four, OK, one run,
get this one run, you get the 1.So it's so meticulous in how his
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mindset operated. I found it quite stressful
batting with it, getting that five, but the only time I
properly batted within my 160. So it sort of works, if that
makes sense. So yeah, he, he was the one I
had the biggest partnership with.
So I say he's the best, worst, worst in a good way was Graham
Swan in the fact we just egged each other on the whole time.
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So if I hit a four, he'd come down and go, I can beat that,
I'll better that. Yeah.
So like I'd hit one through the covers on the floor, he'd come
down smiling and say I'm going over the top next ball, you
know. So it was, it was sounds like we
were playing club cricket, Test match cricket for England.
But we had some great partnerships.
But he definitely got me out a lot where I'd be thinking, OK,
he's just hit a six, so I've gota hit a six and I get out.
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Helpful. Worst batting partner.
I think I remember 2013, Mitchell Johnson was bowling
really quick in that one day series.
It just proceeded when he bowledrapid in Australia in that Ashes
and I've gone out to bat and he's bowling I think round the
wicket. Ravi Bapara and Ravi's tried to
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pull this short ball and he's got to, you know, his barely got
picked his bat up and it smackedhis stickers and dropped to the
floor. And then like only the way Ravi
can just walked down and gone. Geez, that's quick, dog.
And I just remember thinking like, I'm scared enough as it
is. And Rav's just like nothing
worse than a batting partner telling you like, how far
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someone's bowling. And especially when the actually
it wasn't at the Rose Bowl. So you are behind, but when
you're watching side on and people are bowling rapid and
then you get out there and you just want your mate to go,
that's not as quick as it looks.And they're like, Nah, this is
proper quick. So that's something I don't
really enjoy. But the best partner.
I really loved batting with OwenMorgan in one day Cricket,
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thought we like complement each other well, left hand, right
hand, very simple. You're not like giving each
other too many sort of words, but you know, when you've played
with someone a lot and small sort of sentences or just words
like mean a lot more like just so we always just say like,
let's just get a partnership going.
But and it's such a doesn't really mean much, but to the two
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of us, we knew exactly what thatentailed and sort of the follow
up questions from what that would be.
So he was a a great partner to avery level.
But the other thing I don't likeabout bank parts is when they
just don't give you much at all.It's sort of like that.
They don't really talk to you ortell you what's going on.
It's a bit dismissive or you sort of, you know, you go down
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and make great shot and they're just like, yeah, and just.
Which I imagine could happen more in franchise cricket when
you don't play with the same guys all the time.
With England, you're you're playing with O'morgan all the
time. Yeah, franchises.
If you play for 5-6 franchises in a year, there's going to be
guys you don't know at all. Yeah, of course.
And that is sort of, you know, natural that you don't really
expect too much or maybe the conversation won't be absolutely
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flowing. But there's even then there's
still guys you like really enjoybatting with and guys that you
saw Sebastian was someone I really loved batting with.
And this IPL just gone very positive, very nice manner about
and we didn't speak loads, but sort of also a good player that
you know, he's going to score runs.
And you just sort of have that great trust in the guy at the
other end that even if you're struggling, you know he's going
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to he's going to be all right aswell.
But the other thing you get usedto in the IPL is it's not just a
touch gloves, it's you got a tapbat, then touch gloves.
So that's quite a franchise thing.
But then you come back to playing for England and you sort
of get we're quite good at awkward handshakes, but I get
left with my bat sort of waitingfor a tap.
But yeah, that's that's batting partners.
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Josh and I had this thing where we send each other videos all
the time of awkward handshakes, don't we?
If there's ever an awkward handshake, we know about it
within 30 seconds, don't we? Absolutely.
It's like the most cringe thing that we.
Sort of came from when you're shaking.
Her I feel like I can get back at you with the Frank Lampard
story. Tell me about the shaking hands
with Jamie Redknapp at Wimbledon.
Oh, no, I don't. Yeah, you can get back at me
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here. So I was at Wimbledon with my
mum and Jamie Redknapp was walking around the concourse, I
suppose, and bumped into, I knewa little bit from, from
different things. So we bump into each other.
We're chatting away about the tennis and about what's been
going on. It's all right, we're going to
shoot. And I put my hand out to shake
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his and he had a broken wrist. So he's got a plastic cast on it
so he can't really move his hand.
So he puts it out as if to say, like, I've got broken wrists.
And I didn't really know what todo.
So I just grabbed the end of it and just like shook the plastic
cast. And as I was doing it again,
what am I doing? Yeah, why am I doing this?
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And he walked away and I was like, ah, cheers.
Sorry about that. And I mean, I think I called you
the next day saying, you know how much we love these awkward
handshakes. I've just done one absolute
shocker. But I think our love of awkward
handshakes came from where you shake hands with every player at
the end of every game. There's so many times where some
players go handouts, some go normal, some you just grab the
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fingers off and it's just just horrendous.
So yeah. If you fancy a treat on YouTube,
try and catch Owen Morgan shaking hands.
I was at Scotland captain 2015 World Cup.
That was like the sort of, yeah,the on, you know, am I doing the
toss or am I shaking hands? I'm here there.
But yeah, treat yourself. It's good.
I've got a question from Claire.Good question actually.
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What's the best catch you've seen taken live in training?
Is it possible the best catch inhistory was actually never
caught on camera? I reckon there's a good chance
that actually recently in Pakistan in the Champions Trophy
training, Adeel Rashid took one of the most spectacular catches
I've ever seen. And you know the sort of drill
where I think Paul Collingwood'shitting them.
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He's tossing it up to himself asif he's A and rash would be at
backward point. So so if some is straight at
you, some fly past you and it's just go for everything and dilly
from nowhere has just leapt likeprime John T Rhodes full stretch
to his right and taken an absolute hanger.
And maybe it feels better because, you know, it wasn't a
Ben Stokes or someone who sort of is always taking those type
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of catches in training. I remember Baz saying to me like
that's unbelievable. Where's the content team?
Have they caught that because and they weren't anywhere.
And he's like, so disappointing.The best catch, you know, we've
ever seen. No, no one's ever gonna see it.
So I'm sure there are others like that out there.
Can you think of any that you'veseen?
No, no, just in the fact that I remember that 2019 World Cup
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Game 1 Stokes, he took that catch over his head and it was
incredible. Like when you see that on the
field, but when you train with him every day, he takes that
sort of catch in training. So I think just shows the
standard that he keeps himself to is that he would take that
sort of standard of catch fortnightly.
But it's just because it was on the world's biggest stage, it
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becomes such a great catch. It was an unbelievable catch.
But he just, he just does thingsso regularly, like that reverse
hand sort of catch that makes itsort of outrageously special,
really. Question from Tim, I really like
this one. If you were the Ryder Cup
captain and you could only pick England cricketers, who would
you send out on Sunday and who would you send out last?
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Gosh, you might need a bit of time to think about that so I
can go because I've prepped it, I've done this.
Not really. Prepped it.
I've I just saw that question coming and but so I've done this
not on their actual like golfingability, but as if like they
were cricketer golfers, if that makes sense.
So my Ryder Cup captain is MM Brierley.
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OK, so. Reasons why?
Just because he's, I've read that he's the best captain ever
and you know, got the best out of both of them and he's going
to be able to manage all these big egos that I've got in this
lineup so. So anyone you mentioned here you
thinks got a big ego? No, he's can manage a few of
them. He's got big egos.
You're in there. So just he's sending out Cook
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and Strauss after each one and two, Cook and Strauss, I think
great opening partnership. So we'll calm.
The nerves. Calm the nerves, get out early 2
solid solid players you know no frills, so take the take the
energy out of the. You'll write these down here
just so I get a real visual of what what's coming my way here.
And then I'm going to go the complete opposite in my third
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pick is Johnny Bairstow, who's going to start really revving up
the crowd and revving up the opposition.
And he'll, you know, his eyes will go and he'll be so in the
zone that he he never loses fromthat kind of position.
Yeah, I know we're meant to be talking about who's got last,
but I'll get there. Then I'm going for a bit of
flair with both them and Flintoff following each other.
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You know, the Bairstow's got them angry and now both of them
and Flintoff are really going tostart showing everything off and
the crowd will be going absolutely wild, you know,
middle of that Ryder Cup Sunday.You need to calm it down a
little bit so. Where we at now?
This is number 6 now, so I'm sliding Owen Morgan out there.
Number six, No emotion, No emotion.
Deadpan. The Iceman.
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You won't even look at his partner that he's playing
against. We'll just get the job.
Got a wild slicing him but. Yeah, well, he's not doing his
actual goal. We're just doing the and then,
you know, to bring it in the final six, I'm going to
completely swap it from morgues and go KP #7 then I've got #8
Jacob Bethel. You know, there's always that
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wild card pick, isn't there? In the Ryder Cup, the young,
he's Ludwig Eberg. And Oberg have you set in in
this one? And then quite a pressurised
little, yeah, but he's sort of in the mix of Morgan, KP.
Then Bethel's just sort of that,no one really keeping an eye on
it. But if he has an absolute gun
session, he's like wins 5:00 and4:00 and it's Flair and he's the
youngster who's. Really have thought about this,
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have you? It's a long train journey and so
then we've got Jimmy #9 route number Jimmy. #9 because he wore
#9 chair. Is that your?
No, but that works route at #10 no one like the pressure's
cutting now. It was the pressure's coming on.
He's cool and cut and actually his golf game, he's got
brilliant short game and I thinkof those.
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He's got to chip it over a bunk cutting.
Yeah, there's Ryder cut moments where it's like McElroy, that
unbelievable chip on 16 or 17. Beginly at the belfry, yeah.
That's Joe Root and then to yourcredit, you are there at #11
Broad and Stokes, two guys that when the big moments come, built
you up here. I'm hoping that the rest of them
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have still got you in the the match at this point.
You're not just playing those pointless 2 matches at the end
that, you know, the Ryder Cups are already gone.
But when the big moments come, the pressure comes on 1718 Broad
and Stokes to see us home. So that's quite a comprehensive
answer. It's fairly comprehensive.
Yeah. Yeah, it did put something
thought. Who are you sending out last?
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How can I follow that you've? Got to send out someone last.
You definitely. I mean that whole the whole
theory on route pressure game, being able to just be really
skillful and Stokes, you know, clutch, clutch.
You think World Cup finals 2019,the way he batted, Headingley
19-T20, World Cup final 22, nipping around everywhere, the
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way he saw that home, All those moments are just him.
So made for that Ryder Cup Sunday.
So I completely agree. I can't.
Actually can't. Think if you were Ryder Cup
captain, would you see I was thinking about this because I.
Do you front? Load.
Yeah. Do you just go?
Because I'm like, what if we've left Stokes till last and he
doesn't even get his point? Doesn't matter.
Yeah, good question. And the Americans don't.
They tend to front load it a. Little that's what I'd go for.
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Just get all the big guns out early.
I just, I love the drama at the end.
You got to back the sort of backall the players at the, I mean
back all the players at the first half to hold it together.
So that brings the the drama andthe energy at the back end.
So while I was prepping and taking you through my Ryder Cup
12 and who goes out last, you'vehad a couple of sips on the
wine. What do you make of it?
(17:14):
Beautiful. Yeah, it's, it's part of my
range beyond the wicket and it'sI tried to incorporate countries
that I'd been to and had great memories from.
So New Zealand was one of them, synonymous with Sauvignon Blanc.
And you'd normally think Marlborough, but this is from
Nelson, a neighboring area. I wanted part of my wine
collection. I wanted it to be places that
were slightly different, a bit of intrigue.
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I had in my mind. My mum with this one, she always
drinks Sauvignon Blanc, but we'll always just order the safe
one. I wanted to branch her mind out
and think, OK, I've not heard ofNelson, maybe I want to try it.
And yeah, I'm really proud of, of this wine connecting,
connecting with my cricketing memories of of New Zealand, one
of my favourite countries in theworld, and I hope you enjoy it
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as much as I do. New Zealand, yeah, country we
both love to. I know you've for cricket and
wine and actually I still think I've played the best cricket
shot I've ever played in my life.
There wasn't necessarily in a big game.
It was AT20, England versus New Zealand, A sort of warm up game.
Neil Wagner was bowling round the wicket and had everyone up
on the offside and I sort of backed away and it was trying,
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he was trying to attempt to York.
I knew that was what he was going to bowl and I'd sort of
thought if I open the face of mybat in my grip.
Pre setup. Yeah, before he bowls the ball
and I just sort of play this normal kind of shot that will
slice over the offside. He's just missed his Yorker.
I've backed away and as I've like, hit it, the face is so
open and I've like flipped my wrists and somehow it sailed
(18:44):
over cover for six. And that was one of those
moments where it's like, happened.
I can't believe that's happened.That is exactly how I saw it
happening. And yeah, I still think it's the
favorite shot I've ever played, just as a pure cricket shot, Not
necessarily the game or the situation, but as a cricket
shop. So yeah, very fond memories of
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New Zealand. This Sauvignon Blanc, Jose from
New Zealand, from Nelson, It's part of our For the Love of
Cricket case, which you'll be able to buy from
lathwaites.co.uk next week. We'll post a link in our
stories. We're going to do 3 whites and
three Reds. The whites for white Bull
cricket that you're going to choose and the Reds for Red Bull
cricket, Test match cricket, which I will choose.
(19:25):
So you have chosen this this wine.
Yeah, Sauvignon Blanc, New Zealand.
I think you've mentioned what a great place it is to go and play
cricket. All the wines will be from
places that we have played, get in quick before it's all gone
because it's going to be Lathwaite's most popular wine
case. That's a direct quote.
Absolute. So it big, big billboard.
(19:46):
Big Reveal not not sold one of them yet.
So it. Biggest ever.
You've done you've done wine cases before.
This is new for me. This is for the love of cricket
wine case. It's going to be branded up is
going to be so popular. No matching how popular this pot
is. You'll love it.
You'll you'll get people going to friends.
Ohh can I try some of your wine?Well, yeah, you can buy it send
(20:07):
in the link, but they'll they'llexpect freebies.
You'll have a bit of pressure onthat, but it's a.
Discount. It's a nice.
Pressure to For the love of cricket 10% and it's classic.
We just made that up as well. There's a lot of giving 10% of
off off to everyone now. Lifeways are not me.
Just as a disclaimer, no one is promising 10% unless Joss is
going to chip in for that off everyone.
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Nope. Right, we have got a great
question from Kate which all ourcricket followers will want to
know. Broadly, what are your top three
Saturday songs? Can I give you 1?
Yeah, I think it's the one I like.
Well, I higher was the number one, wasn't it higher with Flo
Rider was the number one, But I I like that.
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Sit down with your ego is a niceone.
But what about us is my favorite.
That's the one that, you know, aBBQ or a bit of a party comes on
and I feel like with The Saturdays and I'm like very
proud of Molly for that. But I feel like when the songs
coming, Oh, this is a good one. And then everyone comes.
Oh yeah, I remember this one. This is quite a good one.
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Well, I say better than quite a good one to her.
But yeah, they've had some good factors, I think.
Is that the one that starts withSean Paul?
Yeah, Sean Paul. Yeah, Sean Paul's on it.
Or Chanda Chanda, Chanda Paul. Yeah, so that is for the love of
cricket's favorite one, Chanda, but.
For people don't know that it actually genuinely is.
Did you hear that? That's genuine, he says.
Chanda Paul, not Sean Paul. It's because Shivran Chanda Paul
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is one of the West Indies greatest ever batters.
And is it just because it's sortof rhymed with Sean Paul?
Well, you're telling me this is,well, we need to ask Molly, does
she know that, that it's actually Chanda Paul?
There's no way Molly will know who Shivran Chanda Paul is.
Do you know who Sean Paul is? I feel like we're getting really
confused with the Sean Paul, Shivran Chanda Paul thing.
But I think Sean Paul's come outand said he says Chanda Paul
(21:58):
because he heard a crowd chanting Chanda Paul at the
cricket and he said that really links nicely to my songs.
Not that he just loves Chanda Paul.
Not that he loves Chanda Paul. Does she ever catch you singing
for you Saturday song Shannon House?
Do you know what? We had a nice on YouTube she I
showed Annabella because Annabella's now 2 1/2 and his
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Love's dancing around and I put on a Saturday song and she was
just like mummy, mummy, Mummy, which was really sweet.
But we don't, we don't play themon a regular occurrence, if I'm
honest. Does the phrase sit down with
your ego ever get used around the house?
No, no, I don't think it does. She doesn't say that with The
Saturdays sort of song title involved in it.
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But no, I don't have an ego, do I?
Just a little one question from Rob.
Can Stuart tell us about gettinghit for six sixes in and over by
you've Roger? We get that all the time.
Cheers, Rob, Great question. I think that that's probably a
whole podcast really isn't it's quite a big long story.
(23:06):
It's quite hard to explain in one or two moments, but we'll
we'll definitely come back to that at some stage because it
what's your favorite saying? A deep dive.
We need a bit of a deep dive into that one and what on earth
happened there in Durban with the bulls we'll get.
Your virgin as well. Get his get his input in it.
I'm just promising a lot of yeah, I do promise a lot on this
(23:28):
pod. I've had two of wine and we got
10% off and you've had Singh. You're you're.
A real promising move. Anything for the likes.
Yeah, just another disclaimer you've had.
Singh hasn't guaranteed he's coming on this podcast to
explain why he managed to middleevery single ball off me for an
over. But we can, we can wish
disclaimer, but. We will send him a case of For
(23:49):
the Love of Cricket by Lathwaite's wine and he will
probably join us. Why does that feel like you're
reading it but you're not reading it?
Right. Next question is from George.
How many England WhatsApp groupsare there?
Is there one for the Test team, one day team and the T20 team?
Is there one for logistics or one for actual cricket chat?
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Brody, as a bowler, do you have your own WhatsApp group?
Give George all the insight on WhatsApp.
Well, you're probably more likely to know this.
It moves so quickly, doesn't it?But yeah, there's definitely a
logistics one that the team manager will tell you about time
the bus leaves, where the flightis, what time the team chat is,
etcetera. There's certainly one just for
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the Test team. There must be one for the one
day. Probably one day and T20 the
same or they split. Yeah, it tends to just, I think
change the name of the group as it change, you know, kick the
odd one out and that's when you know, you've been booted and
you're out the group for a little bit.
When it changes from one day as to T 20s or whatever.
Or if you've been in a a squad, you know, when the team managers
getting really annoyed with sortof when people flood that group
(24:54):
with just general chitchat of like who wants a coffee or who's
going out for dinner. When they turn off that you
can't reply to it and you're sort of like, because their
logistics gets lost in the riff raff of like what time leave for
golf or where where we're eating.
So they actually turn off that you can't reply on that.
Group so I love the passive aggressive you know if some if
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they put the leave time and the bus time everything and then
someone goes what time leave in the morning and it's just a like
a quote of the previous time it's.
Already told you, but. Yeah, the bowlers, I don't think
we do have a separate group. Generally the bowling chats,
they're, they're in person, so it'll be on that big admin
group. Bowlers meet at 5:00 in the team
room and you'll just go and talk.
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It's very rare. Are you on WhatsApp going?
How does Steve Smith get out again?
You know, it's, it's very much in person.
Watch a bit of video. So when you retired from playing
for England, did you get that? Did you feel like, oh, I'm going
to leave the group or did you get boosted out or did you just
was it? Is that when your retirement hit
you and you know there was another squad announced and you
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just weren't added to a WhatsApp?
Group, so two days. So I retired on the Monday night
and then on the Wednesday I was had to be at Lourdes for some
commentary that I'd put in, you know, months and months and
months previous. And I went with my players,
England players accreditation toLourdes, scanned it and I just
got this red crossword not allowed in so already.
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Instant. Instant like cut bang, he's
gone. So my accreditation didn't work
straight away. So I had to wait at the gate
while people from Sky sort of came running out with a new
accreditation. Actually I might check the
WhatsApp groups now. I type in sort of test.
I don't know if I'm still on. It still ghost in there.
Test team. I'm sure someone would.
OK, Test. Test team news ashes.
(26:43):
So I don't actually do you know what this is?
Messages this has never been getinto see how how you doing lads?
This has never been closed Ashesand the last and back 30th of
August 2023. It's no great exclusive.
Yeah yeah, Stokes. He sort of finished the group
with a just a well done lads. I can't read the rest of that.
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I'll tell you privately. So Dan's asked our cricket
players. Selfish.
I play village cricket. I get 2 days off work and I
choose to spend one of those standing in a field watching
other people bat. Does that make me a bad person
now? I think it makes you an
excellent person. Village cricket?
They're the best days. You like Test cricket?
International cricket Special? They were.
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Look back to your club cricket days.
How good were they? I used to put the flags around
the boundary, unlock the scoreboard.
If you got out early, you're at square leg for 10 overs.
They were great days, weren't they?
Yeah, great days and just I think everyone can always relate
to those like you say, the boundary markers, you know, what
is it right for runs And the other way playing that like
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bowls game against the flags, certain people make a great tee.
I think Tees were always the highlight of club cricket for
me, knowing you know someone's mum was on the Tees this next
week. You know they stopped it's
spread really they stopped sinceCOVID.
You have to bring your own like meal deal.
That's absolutely. I think we should like, what
about starting a campaign to getit get cricket Tees back?
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Bring back cricket Tees. Dan finished his question.
Does this make me a bad person if he chooses to stand in the
field watching other people? But that that makes you a great
teammate, doesn't it? You're selfish if you get out,
bugger off home, not seen again.But I think if you're watching,
supporting your teammate saying do do you want to join anything
ready in the change room after? Do you want you take Sanchez,
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bring it to you? So now it makes him not selfish
at all, actually makes you a great teammate.
Dan, I've got another question. Actually.
Anthony Clapham messaged me saying how does it work with the
pros in club cricket? You're trying each other's bats.
Do the pros swap bats with each other?
Is it, you know, if you take 10 on tour, do you have people
looking around your bats and going, Oh yeah, I fancy a bit of
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that? Yeah, you do, actually.
You get loads of people wanting to.
There's certain characters in a dressing room.
Sorry. So there'll be guys who want to
look at everyone's kit. Marcus Trus Gothic is the coach
now and he's still the biggest bat Nuffy ever.
Anyone gets a new bat, He's in there looking at it.
What about this? How's the pickup?
I never had one like that. The shape of this, the grains
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are like this, the profile, etcetera, etcetera.
And they'll always be someone who's sort of like in the
dressing room is perceived to have the best bats.
And I actually never liked to dothis.
I did it once I started looking at someone else bat and it just
completely sweded me out. I was out there batting and my
bats are great and I was scoringruns.
But then I looked at some, oh, is these good bats or should my
(29:37):
bat be like this? Should my bat be like that?
So I make it a point to sort of never really pick up other
people's bats and look at other bats.
I've got mine. I'm not going to swap them with
anyone. I'm very happy with my bats.
But other cricketers love the tinkering and they love sort of,
you know, the stickers and changing stickers sometimes.
And also it's quite a mental thing around the IPL, there's
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quite a big thing about like, and the players actually tend to
like gifting bats. They feel good for gifting you a
bat. And if someone used it then and
went out and scored runs with it, well, I feel good for that
because it's the bat I, I gave you.
And there's certain players obviously that out there, they
absolutely dream of getting Virat Kohli's bat or Rohit
Sharma's bat, Syria's bat. And it's still a bat, just a
(30:22):
piece of word. But it's like comes with this
aura, doesn't it, that it's so and so's bat and we, I think we
all believe that there's sort oflike a secret store for the best
players that where the very bestwood is kept.
There's a bat maker that they only roll out for five or six
players in the world. And if you can get one of those
bats, then you'll have no dramasscoring runs.
Question from Nagesh, we've beenfollowing the podcast on
(30:45):
Instagram. And Josh, you seem to have a
love for AB Devilliers. What makes him so good?
Yeah, absolutely love AB, Huge hero of mine.
Just the style of player he was with the bat, with the gloves in
the field. I really like that and I just
think for me, and this is only my opinion and I know there'll
(31:05):
be loads of other opinions telling me I'm wrong, but I
believe AB de Villiers is the most complete batsman to have
ever played the game. I think you could throw him into
a Test match and ask him to savethe game and score, you know,
ten runs off 200 balls. And I think he's got the game,
the defence, the mindset to be able to do that.
And you could throw him into AT20 and say, you know, we're
(31:28):
chasing 15 and over for the last6 overs and you need to walk in
and, and win that game. And, and I think he can do it.
I feel like any sort of situation or scenario or shot,
he's got it. Didn't you have a moment where
you sat down with him, with Lou,your wife?
Yeah, that's sort of a bit of a killer as well, wasn't it?
So ABS been this hero of mine and I sort of, you know, he's
(31:52):
really again, generous with his time.
And I got to know him a little bit playing against him.
And we were in Mumbai playing for Mumbai Indians at the time.
We were playing against RCB at the the Wankhede Stadium.
And both teams are staying in the same hotel.
And lots of, you know, players will sort of congregate in the
bar after the match and just have a, a drink.
(32:14):
It's one of the great things about cricket, isn't it, that
share a drink with the opposition and chat about the
game or whatever. And at the ground, AB had said
to me, let's have a beer in the bar and sort of I'm completely
starstruck like this is my hero got the chance to like go and
meet him. So lose out watching the the
IPL. So I get back, I'm like quick
(32:35):
shower up, get changed. We're going straight to the bar.
We're going to meet AB de Villiers.
He wants to have a a beer. I'm like, so it's just at cool.
Like, I know I'm nervous, but just, you know, pretend, play it
cool, play it cool. Absolutely don't fall through
the bar. And so we've got in there.
He's. Yeah.
What do you want to drink? Having a beer.
And it's really nice. I'm not really saying much
(32:55):
because I'm just like, a bit nervous and just goes quiet.
And Lou just goes, oh, So what part of New Zealand are you
from? And I've just heard this.
And I go, Oh, my God, like, how do I rescue that?
Like it's one of like, South Africa's most famous ever sports
people when my wife's just askedhim, you know, what part of New
(33:15):
Zealand he's from. So I don't really know how we
rescued that. And probably, yeah, I just went
to that thinking he'll never speak to me ever again.
But yeah, he's sort of really given a lot of EB love there,
haven't I? I think he's a a brilliant,
brilliant player. Must be one of the best you
bowled against. Definitely.
Yeah, you're right. That situational thing for him.
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He could sweep you in a one day game out on the ground, but also
he could save a game and shut up.
Sharp, technically gifted, but amagical sports person all around
I think. I don't know the exact stats of
his swimming and tennis when he was a kid, but he was, he was
amazing. I played paddle against him the
same commentary team, SA-20, andI'm a beginner.
I was thinking it gave me an insight into his competitive
(33:59):
spirit as well, because I'm a beginner, just trying to get it
back. And he's really good, Plays
three or four times a week. And every time I'd sort of just
get it back in the night, almostlike a film like charge, like
smash it, point over, you know, it's like, oh, OK.
He just absolutely dominated this game of paddle like
athletic, like the way you move the the skill and precision he
(34:23):
could put the ball. I know we're on cricket here,
but it just showed that now he'sretired from cricket, this
passion of natural taking over, just natural ability just
straight away just incredible atit.
No one could compete to his level at all.
So yeah, he's you get these people and you're one of them
that are just so naturally gifted.
Loads of different sports. I think he has to be the top of
(34:45):
the tree of of that. Yeah, absolutely agree with that
question from Ali. Again, this one will divide
opinion, but let's get Brody's answer, Sachin Tendulkar or Jack
Callas. I think you have to go in your
team for balance. You have to go Callas for 300
(35:07):
test wickets. I think he got average 58 with
the bat catch, caught everythingat slip.
He's probably in my opinion the greatest all round cricketer of
all time. But then you talk about winning
trophy, I mean Sachin winning the 2011 ODI World Cup in India
in Mumbai for for someone that that carried a nation, I suppose
(35:34):
most famous, one of the most famous people in in India, the
pressure he played under compared to Callas.
And I've already named Callas asanswer this question.
But now the more I talk, I think, gosh, what Sachin dealt
with and coped with and kept thestandard 200 Test matches at #4
(35:58):
I've gone back myself. I'm going to say Callas just
because I saw Ricky Ponting say hands down, Callas is the best
creator to have ever played the game.
I saw that in a recent interviewsomewhere, and I think maybe
because he's sort of that understated and we haven't
really seen much of him since he's retired maybe.
But when you put together, isn'this numbers the equivalent of an
(36:18):
average like Tendulkar with the bat and Zaire Khan with the ball
in one cricketer? So it's pretty hard to if you're
having to pick a team and prettyhard to look past that.
Yeah, I agree. Question from Manisha.
Do you remember the first time you met Ms. Dhoni?
I don't actually remember maybe the exact first time that I ever
met him, but the first time I ever got to sort of interact
(36:40):
with him and speak with him. It's quite surreal, isn't it?
When you meet these people, you're sort of bit, imagine it
sort of being like Madame Tussauds.
They like, they look real, but they're not real.
But, you know, I'm like, that's the actual Ms. Dhoni.
And he's, yeah, again, really generous with his time.
And I, How did you get so good at keeping wicket?
And why is your style as it is? In England, we're taught to sort
(37:00):
of stay down with the ball. But when I watch you, you're
sort of up. And he said to me, sort of a
product of his environment when he first came into the team, he
was keeping wicket to Anil Kumble, you know, really fast
leg spin, a lot of top spin on the ball.
And he said when I was staying down, the ball just kept hitting
me on the shoulders. And I just thought this is if
(37:21):
all the balls are going to be upthere, I may as well sort of be
in that position and be ready for it.
And he'd sort of say I'm then I'm in this position to catch
the ball when I'm closer to the stuff.
So I said also like, well, what practice can I do?
How can I do? And he just said to me, which is
great advice in one way, he saidkeeping should be fun.
Keeping should be something you do that's just really fun.
(37:42):
You're involved in the game, especially up to the stumps
where the spinners are bowling. They're going to beat the bat.
You can get catches, you can getedges, as long as you can pick,
you know, which way someone's spinning it.
Just see it as an absolute time to show off and have fun and
relax and then, you know, worry about your batting and stuff
like that. And that's obviously coming from
a guy who at that stage is kept in international cricket for 15
(38:05):
years. So but he said, no, I don't
really practice. And it's one of those things
when you watch an IPL game, you see Dhoni and it's like one of
those myths that go around the tournament, like he doesn't
practice his keeping. And then there's the highlight
reel, stumpings and all that stuff.
And yeah, and that's true to us.We already said no.
I just have fun when I'm keepingwicket.
And I remember from that point trying to take that more into my
(38:26):
keeping because I used to. Sometimes as a wicket keeper,
you're a bit nervous to not makea mistake.
Everyone sort of looks at you like you've got gloves on,
should be easy to catch it and agood wicketkeeper should go
unnoticed. And if you know you only sort of
get talked about when you make amistake.
But it was a complete flip in mymindset of have fun, show off
like catch the ball and try and get close to the stumps and be
(38:47):
quick with your stumpings etcetera.
So yeah, that was a really nice interaction I had with him.
Yeah, such a wonderful Ms. Dhonistory as a legend for a reason.
You know, loads of people talk so greatly about him, but
unfortunately, that is it for the end of our first Q&A episode
in partnership with Latheway. He's got loads of great
questions. I didn't think we'd be talking
so much about your Ryder Cup team question from Tim.
(39:08):
That's a brilliant one, but I really enjoyed that.
Jose, thanks for sharing that. We'll do one of these every
month. And when is the case on sale?
For the Love of Cricket case, we'll be available to buy at
lathwaites.co.uk from the 1st ofJuly.
So pour yourself a glass. Settle in, join us for the love
of cricket with a good bottle ofwine from Lathwaites.
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