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May 12, 2025 43 mins

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In this episode, we talk about how we began our military journeys. One as an enlisted Soldier from Ohio, the other as a Commissioned Officer from East St. Louis.

We explore the early days of our Army careers, how our training shaped our leadership styles, and the responsibilities we faced from opposite ends of the rank structure.

We also dig into:

•Why we each chose to serve

•The challenges of leading from different positions

•How personal and professional lines sometimes blur

•And what respect really looks like across ranks

If you’ve ever wondered what separates officers from enlisted — and what connects us despite the differences — this conversation is for you.

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Tommie Jones

Tommie Jones

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