May 7, 2025 • 35 mins
When four musicians with a shared passion for grunge and heavy guitar-driven rock come together, something electric happens. That's exactly what we discovered when UK band Ego Trip joined us on Franklin's Garage to Stage podcast.
Beginning at a brewery open mic night when guitarist Bean and vocalist Will decided they needed a band name rather than having their individual names written on the board, Ego Trip has evolved into a powerhouse of modern grunge with distinctive flair. Their performances are thoughtfully crafted experiences - starting fast and bright, building to crushing heaviness in the middle, then easing listeners back out with lightness by the end.
What struck me most during our conversation was the band's genuine camaraderie and collaborative spirit. While they jokingly call their dynamic a "dictatorship," it's clear that each member brings unique contributions that elevate their sound. From Ellis's foundation-building drum beats to Will's powerful vocals, Bean's riff-crafting abilities, and Daz's complementary bass lines, Ego Trip represents true musical partnership.
The band shared candid stories about their journey - from embarrassing on-stage moments (like losing vocal capabilities during their entire set or accidentally erasing amp presets mid-performance) to the thrill of playing Kendall Calling festival. They're currently preparing to release their first album recorded at Rex Studio in Carlisle and embarking on their next tour leg across the UK.
For fellow musicians, Ego Trip offers this wisdom: "The best time to take the leap is yesterday. If you wait to feel ready, you never will." Their parting message to fans and listeners emphasized supporting local music scenes - attending sparsely-populated shows, buying that slightly overpriced pint, and simply showing appreciation to performers who put their hearts on stage. Check out Ego Trip wherever you stream music and catch their high-energy live shows if you're in the UK!
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Rob (00:00):
Hi, welcome to Franklin's Garage to Stage podcast.
My name is Rob WardrumsFranklin and my co-host is Dana
Thunderbase Franklin.
Dana (00:10):
How are you guys all doing today?
Okay, today with us we have aspecial guest, a band all the
way from the United Kingdom.
It goes by the name of Ego Trip.
How are you guys doing?
Rob (00:28):
Thank you.
We're good.
Good name of ego trip how youguys doing.
If we could get you guys tointroduce yourself individually.
You really appreciate it in us.
In any order, you want nice tomeet you next anybody?
(00:50):
Going on now yeah, so.
Beinn (00:57):
I'm a guitarist.
I've got a weirdly spelt name.
I like moldy cheese.
Daz (01:01):
You've read my bio and yeah , I'm Daz and I've been a
permanent fill-in bass playerfor a while, permanent fill-in.
Rob (01:11):
I like that all right.
Dana (01:13):
So for anybody that's you know, never heard you guys
before or is trying to figureout who you are, um, so this one
I will okay bean.
This is a question for you andyou.
You know, maybe other everybodyelse in the band can can answer
this too, but nobody's everseen you.
How do you describe yourself asa band for somebody that's
(01:35):
never heard you guys before?
Well, how would you describeyourself?
Beinn (01:40):
Um, that's going to be a difficult question to answer.
I would say say well, first andforemost through a grunge band,
but we use the term grunge justas kind of an umbrella term,
just because there's so manythings that you could call
grunge, whereas otherwise, ifyou would say you were a groove
metal band, you're picking avery, a very definite category.
(02:00):
We have quite a wide range oftunes.
To be fair, we draw influencesfrom, obviously, like make
grunge artists, metal, all kindsof rock, pretty much anything
guitar-driven.
Will (02:13):
Basically, we've drawn influence from yeah, basically
it's all like something heavy orsomething with soul that we
take inspiration from always.
Really.
Rob (02:26):
And how would you guys describe your show to somebody
that hadn't seen you before?
Describe basically from whenyou set up to break down what
happens during your show.
Ellis (02:38):
The show is electric.
We start fast and bright andthen get heavier towards the
middle.
After everyone's had enough offeeling crushed under all the
heavy rifts, we lighten it upagain and ease everyone.
I think it's easy to getsomething a bit of a walk out
(02:58):
and kind of have to tuck in thehead.
Will (03:00):
For the rest of it, yeah, we like to go in a little bit
calm and then give them a realpunch and scare them a little
bit.
Like this is what we really are.
Rob (03:11):
I like it Well.
We believe in starting strongand ending strong.
You guys kind of do your setlist like that Take your best
material to begin with and thenclose out with something you
know is going to kick ass.
Will (03:26):
Oh yeah, we always close with something strong, like
always.
Dana (03:32):
So do you guys?
Is it mostly, do you do covers,or is it all originals?
Beinn (03:40):
I think we're aiming for all originals.
We throw in some covers, mainlyas almost kind of filler
material, but also it sort ofshows our influences.
We cover things like Alice inChains.
We do Black by Pearl Jam quitefrequently because people like
it.
We do kind of crowd pleasers inkind of the middle of the set
(04:02):
and then we ease out.
We definitely start and finishwith originals.
Dana (04:07):
That's one thing we've always suggested with cover
bands like you know what andwith your best song that you
wrote, and to let everybody knowwhat you're all about.
So, going on that with theoriginals that you guys do, who?
Is there one main person in theband that does the writing, or
is it a kind of a collaborationwith all of you guys?
Will (04:29):
well, at first it was just me and being the guitarist, but
then we we need we didn't needmore help, but we wanted more
and we wanted more creativity tocome into the, into the group.
And that's when we uh, wepicked up ellis and ellis
started throwing in idea leftand right.
Like he's, he's always gotsomething new brewing up there.
(04:50):
So, like we do, we do, we allcome together and we all, we all
make it gel these days.
So it's, it's everyone, it'severyone cool.
Rob (05:00):
How did you all get together?
I mean, what was the processfor?
I mean, was it like gettingtogether on social media ads in
the paper?
I mean, how'd you all gettogether?
I mean what was the process for?
I mean, was it getting togetheron social media ads in the
paper?
I mean, how did you all gettogether?
Beinn (05:11):
I had a job in a brewery and there was an open mic going
on.
Basically, one of the guys whoworked there owned a pub and I
was quite interested in going.
I was just going to take likean acoustic guitar but then
basically on the way I kind ofthought I can't sing, I need to
sing and I already knew Will atthe time.
We were quite good friends.
(05:33):
So Will came along and we alsogot a drummer.
It's not the same drummer, butwe brought him along and we just
kind of cruised.
I was a free piece for quite awhile after that and started
making me and Will startedwriting songs.
I'd write the riffs, he'd writethe lyrics, and we'd done that
for a while until we bought onEllis.
He's come along with quite alot of things you know like,
(05:56):
initially just contributions tostructure and things like that,
but again, that's stuff that weall need.
But then, yeah, over time,bringing ellis on, he started
coming up with, you know, ideasfor beats and he's been the
foundation for some of our songs, actually nice um.
And then when we brought in daz, daz made some quite useful
contributions on the bass um,like a lot of the bass riffs.
(06:19):
Obviously I kind of show himthe kind of root of what's on
the guitar and then he'll comeup with something that goes
around it instead of copies it,and I think that's that's quite
good and that's basically howwe've been since.
Will (06:32):
Daz was fundamental to one of our biggest gigs as well.
Yeah, like without Daz wewouldn't have been able to play
Kendall Colin, which which wasone of the biggest opportunities
we have ever been given as as'sa band in our really early
stages three years in gettingoff of a stage.
Part at Kendall Column wasmental, and that saved us on
(06:54):
that one.
Dana (06:56):
Nice, okay, so main influences for each one of you.
Well, I guess my first questionwould be at what age did you
figure out that music is whatyou wanted to do?
Was it, you know first concertyou went to, or something mom
and dad were jamming to at thehouse?
I mean, how did you get intothis world of music?
Rob (07:16):
still, my question Ellis, start with you.
Go ahead, Ellis.
Ellis (07:27):
Cool.
For me, this is what I wantedto do for the recent, I would
say only in the last year or two.
For me, drumming was more of ahobby.
I had an electronic drum that Iwas trying to learn initially.
Rob (07:44):
Hey, had an electronic drum kit in my house initially.
Hey, if you don't mind, couldyou turn up your volume, just a
hair.
Ellis (07:49):
Sure.
Rob (07:50):
Thank you I was just praying.
Ellis (07:51):
How about that?
Rob (07:52):
There you go, there you go yeah, for me.
Ellis (07:56):
I was just jamming in on an electronic drum kit for a
while there.
This was a hobby around thehouse and I've always quite
liked live concert videos onYouTube.
A lot of metallic arrayed.
Yeah, those guys just came withweight and power, maybe not
(08:16):
always very technical.
That seemed to work for me andthat's what I imitated
Flavioville.
But yeah, the Journey of Egotrip actually came full circle.
I think, seeing them the firsttime, they simply livened up the
team.
It was kind of instrumental.
(08:38):
It's come full circle in afunny way.
I saw their new songs, new riffs, new era of grunge, and that
made me go home in a way.
I wasn't thinking about beingin the band at that point, but I
was thinking and tellingeveryone I've just seen these
guys downtown and they're likethe next generation of grunge
and these song ideas.
They're like the nextgeneration of grunge and these
song ideas like.
They're like modern but likewithin nostalgia at the same
(08:59):
time.
Um, so that made me play morethan feel creative more, and the
next time I went to check inwith these guys, it's like
seeking new drummer.
So it kind of went from there.
Um, I gave them some idea ofwhat I could do.
Um, they gave me a track oftheirs to lay down drums on, and
I guess it started there,probably over a year ago.
Rob (09:21):
Who's your biggest influence?
Ellis (09:24):
Oh, biggest.
It's a bit embarrassing, butLars Owen there you go okay.
He's a loud mouth.
He's like Marmite.
I love him, I hate him, buthe's very successful and very
clever.
He knows where he sits withinthe band.
He's got amite, but he's verysuccessful and very clever.
He knows where he sits withinthe band.
Rob (09:40):
He's got a solid meter, that's for sure.
Lord William, what's going onto you, man?
Will (09:48):
Well, I've always Been into music.
I've been going to metalfestivals From a really young
age.
I started about 3 years old Onstage with all the big bands and
stuff.
So I just I got to see likethat side of things and I was
like this is, this is what Iwant to do, and I've dabbled in
like every instrument possible,like guitar, drums, everything
(10:09):
yeah, but none of them reallystuck with me.
I can, I enjoy them, but likeit's not a thing where I'm like
I'm good at that, because I'mnot by any means.
But singing is the one thingthat I've ever got feedback from
people and they've been likeyou're, you're amazing, like
you're really good.
And we, when we were startingout the open mic nights, I'd get
(10:29):
people like, to be fair, I getthem sort of annoying me a
little bit with the you'reawesome, you're awesome, just be
like, come on, but yeah, fromfrom that.
It's what made me really wantto pursue the music stuff.
Oh, I'm biggest influence,alison chins okay and beam um,
(10:54):
for me.
Beinn (10:55):
I started playing guitar at the age of I think I was
about 12.
I got a guitar for my 13thbirthday and I've just never put
it down since.
I played all through school andI think I was maybe only a
couple of years in when Irealized music's definitely a
thing that I wanted to do.
I've been in a few bands.
Some of them were to a pointwhere you just come up with a
(11:17):
name and that was all that everhappened.
You just had a name.
Um, I've been in one thatplayed like one gig and then I
just kind of coasted about until, obviously, I met will and uh
ellis, and I always said tomyself that I'd never go to a
festival until I was playing one.
Dana (11:37):
That was a good answer.
Beinn (11:38):
The festival I'd go to would be one that I played at
and, funnily enough, that turnedout to be true with the Kendall
Calling gig last year, againthanks to Daz.
My biggest influence, I wouldhave to say, is Pantera.
I basically grew on Pantera.
It's a massive thing for mejust being able to play sick
(11:58):
riffs on the guitar.
Will (12:00):
There's definitely a lot of steve rae vaughn in that mix
though oh, yeah, actually, yeah,I can't deny the stevie's.
Rob (12:06):
And I love that bluesy aspect of it too, though cool.
Dana (12:11):
Okay.
So with the name uh name egotrip.
How did that come about?
Who came up with that and isthere a special meaning behind
it?
Will (12:21):
um, well, basically for the open mic night, we didn't
have a name and they were likewriting our individual names on
the board and I thought that'sshite, like I don't like that.
So I just went over and rubbedit out, put Equotrip from there,
just stayed with it.
We'll probably get a lawsuit inthe future.
Rob (12:43):
No, I don't think so.
I think we'll get it.
My question to all of you guysis is the band more of a
democracy or do you havesomebody that really takes on a
leadership role?
Ellis (12:59):
Oh, it's a dictatorship, dictatorship.
Will (13:03):
That is the dictator.
Dana (13:08):
It's always the quiet one right.
Beinn (13:10):
Yeah exactly.
Ellis (13:13):
There's an extra guy I can't tell you about.
He's the puppet master.
Daz (13:21):
On the podcast you can't see them pointing fingers, but
on video they're.
They're all pointing fingers.
It's always the one who's doingthe pointing.
That's the one you want towatch out for, basically okay,
no, go ahead I guess early on.
Ellis (13:34):
yeah, um, obviously will, and bean had a lot of things to
bring to the table already thatexisted prior to the ego trip,
ones that have been sat aroundfor a while and given new life,
but now that we're on to a brandnew thing the right four pieces
it's probably what I'd like todo.
Yeah.
Dana (13:54):
Cool With band developments and getting things
going as a unit.
You know there's so much thatgoes into it that we've
discussed on our other.
You know podcast episodes.
You know it's I mean you guysare like it's like a family.
I mean you guys know each otherbetter than probably any
significant others orgirlfriends, wives, whatever.
What plays into as far as youguys all getting along.
(14:18):
And the discussion on, say,drinking and drugs before
practice, after practice, duringshows.
How do you, how do you guysdeal with that as as a family?
Beinn (14:30):
we just get very drunk.
I like it, I love that.
Ellis (14:32):
I think the recent tiering in a band together as a
unit has helped a lot in termsof growing closer to each other,
knowing the boundaries and do'sand don'ts, things like that I
think we've been on the samepage since day one in terms of
(14:56):
shows and behavior and etiquette.
shows.
I think we did all thatphrasing about behind closed
doors when we're writing andjamming, once it's gig night,
you know we're all just on thesame page, it's be all over the
stage.
Set everything up, justabsolutely play them with our
best and kind of I don't know,yeah, we're kicking it some sort
(15:18):
of of I don't know, yeah, we'rekicking it some sort of mode?
Rob (15:20):
I don't know.
Will (15:24):
We've never like directly said this is a do and don't,
because you don't want to setrestrictions on people there,
but it's just don't take thepiss out of each other, just be
good to each other, really, andthat's what it's about.
Rob (15:38):
Good attitude.
So we talked about this withDaz, but we have a moment we
call oh shit.
So this is individually if youcould tell us a particular time
when you've played live orwhatever, where you've had a
real embarrassing or realsomething really bad happen to
you during a performance.
(15:59):
Ellis, let's start with you.
Ellis (16:03):
I've got a bunch as a drummer.
Rob (16:04):
I don't know about you.
Ellis (16:08):
I guess, in small context , my first gig with these guys
was a little bit sprung upon me.
I mean, you never feel readyfor your first gig, right, a
little bit sprung upon me.
I mean you never feel ready foryour first horizon.
Um, we, we jammed maybe twotimes together possibly three.
Rob (16:23):
I think in first really wow .
Ellis (16:25):
The first people, like after worked on something like,
would come along and I was like,oh man, yeah, go on.
Then, like I couldn't reallysay no, I thought this is the
start of the journey.
Um, we'll go down, we're allset up, we're all good.
I've borrowed some of theOakland band's equipment, which
is always nice.
And then, I think at the lastminute I think, we had a song
(16:46):
swap, one that I'd maybe notpracticed.
I think we went from.
It was a Mad Season song that Ihad under the belt.
It's certainly a Pearl Jam onethat I reckon I maybe knew.
So that was real scary, was theoh shit moment.
We went for it.
There's a couple clubs, acouple like turn around like
(17:07):
evil eyes, but we got through itand uh, yeah, it sounded enough
like this song, but that was.
That was probably the scariestmoment, but that's, that's not
too bad and lord william howabout you scariest moment, but
that's not too bad.
Dana (17:22):
And, lord William, how about you?
Will (17:26):
um the last, literally the last gig we did.
Dana (17:32):
I mean, are we talking the whole gig or something?
Will (17:37):
the whole set my voice went on the first song, like
first song we started.
I'm like, oh man, I looked, Ilooked right at.
Daz (17:46):
That's actually like I don't know if I can do this I
gotta tell you from the otherside too, because we was a we're
playing weekends, right.
So we're out friday, saturday,sunday, right, and the band that
was with us.
They showed up on the first dayand the drummer and the guitar
player were wheezing andcoughing and they both were
walking around this tiny littleroom saying, oh, we're sick,
(18:08):
we're sick, we're sick.
And of course my immediatedefenses kick in right, and we
hit the Sunday show, the verylast show, the most recent one
we did, and Will was fine allmorning and just before we got
up on stage he started wheezingand coughing.
He grabbed the microphone andthe very first note was off.
He looked at me and I justlooked him in the eye and was
like this is going to be sopainful.
(18:30):
This is going to hurt you and meit was so bad.
Beinn (18:34):
Poor guy.
I was down by the end of thefirst night.
I'd already got it off him.
Will (18:41):
We were all bad.
I was down by the end of thefirst night.
I'd already got it off them.
We weren't there and shamed theband, though we won't do that
to them they were lovely, butthey were troopers, right, they
showed up, etc.
Daz (18:52):
But I would have preferred if they waited in the car.
Beinn (18:55):
Yeah, mean one of my biggest oh shit moments, bean.
One of my biggest oh shitmoments I think would be at.
Actually, I'm going to refer tothe last show.
Rob (19:14):
I would play with you.
I wish we'd have been at thelast show.
Beinn (19:19):
Basically everything you could think of went wrong.
I had a couple of presets on myamp and to use the presets, you
, you, uh, you press a button toselect the preset right, but if
you hold the button down, itlike erases the preset and puts
it to whatever the currentsettings are.
(19:40):
And the amp.
So it just copies what's on thedials.
And, uh, I was getting daz, whowas on the other side of the
stage where my amp was.
I was in front of his cab so hewas changing the settings for
me and I was like, yeah, pressthat button.
And I looked over and seen himput his finger down on the
button and just hold it thereand I was thinking, oh no, oh no
(20:01):
.
And I rolled the volume onchugged and I was like you've
just erased my tone, you've justcompletely erased.
So I had to go over and likeinvent a new tone.
Literally in the middle of twosongs.
Rob (20:13):
I think it's hard to sound it off all right, so yeah,
that's.
Beinn (20:18):
We've already discussed yours, unless you have another
one, oh we know you, so I'lljust sound it off.
Rob (20:21):
Okay, all right.
Dana (20:21):
So yeah, daz, we've already discussed yours, unless
you have another one.
Oh, we know you got more.
Rob (20:25):
No, no, no.
Daz (20:26):
No, we'll stick with it.
You know I have many more, butwe'll stick with that one.
It was a good one.
Will (20:30):
Okay, have you got one, in particular with Ego Trip,
though?
Daz (20:35):
With Ego Trip.
I don trip, I don't know.
Ellis and I have the same egotrip story, right?
I mean, it's exactly the samething, right?
You got you two, just um.
I think you perceive it thatit's a grunge thing to not be
prepared for stuff.
So like we get up and we'reready to play something and
suddenly there's an audible hey,let's play that song we
rehearsed once.
Yeah, oh, yeah, oh, okay, theone I can't remember how it goes
(20:59):
.
You go ahead and start playing.
No, it starts with a bass.
Give me a hint.
Yeah, we did the same thing toboth of us, but that's not an
ocean moment, that's just acamaraderie moment.
Dana (21:15):
You're just doing your thing which kind of brings me
next, brings me to another,another question that you know
every band goes through, nomatter how long they've been
together.
Um, covering for mistakes, live, how.
How do you guys go about doingthat?
Is there a side glance that youjust you know?
Say the the singer comes in alittle late on a verse, or
(21:36):
somebody goes in a little bittoo early on a verse.
You know how do you guys covermistakes without trying to let
anybody else know about it.
Rob (21:43):
I rely on my bass player.
I don't know.
Beinn (21:47):
Mainly, we just look at each other and smirk the mistake
.
Like you look in the audienceand think, nah, you don't know.
Rob (21:55):
Yeah, yeah, they don't, they really don't the uh the
yeah, they don't.
Will (22:00):
They really don't.
The usual methods blame thedrummer.
Oh, that's cold.
Rob (22:07):
Me and him would have a problem.
Ellis (22:12):
My point is to find the one and hit a crash or two, and
then you're back in.
Rob (22:18):
There you go, so tell us about what you got coming up for
future shows.
Will (22:21):
crash or two, and then you're back in.
There you go.
Rob (22:22):
Tell us about what you've got coming up for future shows.
Tell everybody what's going onand what to expect from you in
the next few weeks, next coupleof months.
Ellis (22:32):
This weekend Perfect timing.
Yeah, we begin our next leg onthe time of recording this.
In two days we are goingthrough to Lancaster to play the
Pantina.
We are playing in Arlisle atthe Source Selected, the
unofficial official MotorheadDay.
Daz (22:55):
Oh, it's the International Motorhead Day, yeah.
Rob (22:58):
Oh yes, really Cool.
Ellis (23:00):
Saturday is Coventry in the Arces Day.
Yeah, oh nice, Really oh cool.
Saturday is Coventry in theArcturus.
So, yeah, a few exciting bigcrowds We've had a few people
telling us they're coming tothis and a few good pre-sales.
Yeah, lots of spirit, lots ofenergy, Looking forward to the
next leg of the tour Awesome.
Dana (23:19):
Awesome, okay.
So how about stories of guysyou guys stealing each other's
girlfriends or shit like that?
Any of that coming up yet?
Not yet.
Ellis (23:34):
Give the tour a little time An invisible list of band
rules in the van.
Jazzy is in charge of tappingthe van.
Yeah, I think.
No relation on the road.
Will (23:44):
I think is one of the top that's a good rule, yeah to be
fair, though, not stealing eachother's girlfriends isn't on
that band rules list not yetanyway we should want one yeah
(24:06):
maybe the dictatorship justadded another okay, okay.
Dana (24:13):
So, so, daz, are you?
Are you in um, are you kind ofin control of all the going-ons
on the road?
As the older figure.
Daz (24:25):
Yeah, yeah, it is the older figure thing.
You can't escape that.
The age is there and it'sevidence.
But I'm also the only one whodrives, oh really.
Rob (24:33):
Oh man.
Daz (24:34):
Yeah, that's good fun when you've got the responsibility of
getting you to the venue,getting you safely back from the
venue, oh, and playing forthree to four hours on stage
every night, because it's threehours.
Will (24:44):
Yeah, he has got the most responsibility on the road
because he's not just the driver, he plays in all three bands
like Bear.
Pigs, ego Troop and his ownband Loser, which is a lot to do
, it is.
Daz (24:56):
Oh yeah, yeah it is, if you don't mind, I'd like to plug
the fact that these guys havefinished recording their first
album.
Rob (25:07):
I was going to ask about that.
Daz (25:08):
It's being mixed.
Yeah, and I'll ask them to talkabout it after.
I share an Ellis story, whichis because, you know, ellis did
the drums first, so we did somescratch tracks along with Ellis
and then we kept, accidentally.
You know, the did the drumsfirst, so we did some scratch
tracks along with Ellis and thenwe kept, accidentally.
(25:29):
You know the way, in a DAW youcan grab all of the tracks at
once and they slip around alittle bit if you wanted to.
We kept accidentally slippingthe tracks just slightly off the
drums that were recorded andthen looking at each other and
wondering why Ellis had madesuch a horrible mistake.
He was off by a beat.
At least twice during thiswhole entire album recording we
were convinced Ellis was off bya beat.
Why is the bass drum?
Will (25:50):
on the tour?
Daz (25:50):
It doesn't make any sense.
Will (25:53):
The worst thing is he wasn't even there and we were
just blaming him.
Dana (25:56):
That's just wrong, that's just wrong.
Beinn (26:00):
It's amazing.
But the thing oh shit, oh man,that's just wrong.
That's just wrong.
That's so much shit, bob,that's just amazing.
But the thing is, if he haddone that, it would have been
really impressive, because hewas off by a beat consistently,
the whole way through.
True, still in time, but off bya beat.
It's amazing.
Ellis (26:16):
An intentional, creative decision.
Clearly.
Beinn (26:19):
Yeah, you're just playing one beat late for the entire
song.
Dana (26:26):
So, with that recording that you guys did, how was that
process?
I mean, did you guys all go inthere individually and do it, or
was it one in each room?
Tell us about the completeprocess and how you did it.
Will (26:45):
Well, we went in together really for the first few tracks
and then there was two left overand guitars and drums fully
done on and I had to go back andadd my parts over.
But yeah, for the most part wewere all in together, weren't we
?
Pretty much live, or I'm prettysure actually Daz did.
I think Daz did his takes onhis own.
(27:06):
No yeah.
Beinn (27:07):
Daz did.
The bass takes about this yeah.
Daz (27:09):
It wasn't live room tracked right, the drums were tracked
to some scratch play-alongs andthen those play-alongs were
thrown out and we then did theguitar, the bass next and then
the guitar and then the vocalsand sub-detection.
Rob (27:24):
Cool, cool, and when?
Daz (27:26):
is that going to be released?
Rob (27:27):
We did that at Rex.
Is that released already?
We did that at Rex.
Daz (27:30):
It's so close.
It's being mixed.
Rex Studio Promotions RexStudio here in Carlisle.
They're amazing and we recordedthe whole entire thing with
them.
He's currently got it formixing and mastering.
Hopefully it'll be out withinthe next month or so so we can
start making copies to bring onthe road.
Rob (27:50):
Cool, Please keep us updated and we'll get that
information out, so you can getsome downloads through us as
well.
Dana (28:00):
Absolutely, absolutely.
Thank you very much, yeah, ofcourse.
So, guys, you know our podcastbasically it's.
You know, as the name implies,it's Garage, the Stage.
We try to throw out tips andsuggestions to any musician
that's out there, whetherthey're just starting out in
their bedroom or in the firstband in the garage, you know, to
make it to the level, to whereyou know you guys are at on the
stage and performing andrecording.
(28:21):
Each one of you give asuggestion to new musicians out
there and your number one tip ofwhat they can do to make
themselves not only better butto get to the level you guys are
at.
Beinn (28:35):
Stay out of our way.
Good, all right, I like that.
I like that way.
One tip is to not be afraid toalmost.
I think Phil Anselmo said this.
(28:55):
He basically said rip off everyband.
You know, I wouldn't say to doit that shamelessly, but it's
okay to take influences fromthings, and music is a bit of an
ongoing conversation.
Almost you can basically takesomething that's already been
made and make it new again byjust changing two notes.
If it sounds good, play ittwice, kind of thing.
Rob (29:16):
I think we've all done it.
Beinn (29:17):
I went and ripped off loads of the Beatles and it
worked for them.
Yeah.
Will (29:22):
I just said, do what makes you happy.
Go, go, get on stage, play yourheart out, sing your heart out,
drum your heart out.
Just do it because it's fuckingfun.
Daz (29:34):
It's awesome.
Ellis (29:37):
Alice.
Rob (29:41):
Alice, did we lose you?
It looks like Alice.
Dana (29:44):
He's frozen.
Ellis (29:45):
There you go we got back in, we're back in, you guys in
there, okay.
Rob (29:52):
Gotcha.
Well, maybe not.
Ellis (29:56):
The best time to take the leap is yesterday.
I feel like if you wait to feelready, you never will.
You kind of just need to gointo it and make it yours and
make it a place that'scomfortable and you can progress
within.
And what I had and I kind ofwish I'd done it sooner, because
this has been a lot so- verycool, very cool does it's not a
(30:19):
zero-sum game.
Daz (30:21):
Uh, bean was joking and we all laughed so hard about it
because of the same reason.
But I mean, you don't makeyourself better by tearing
someone else down.
Rob (30:29):
So it's good advice, right.
Daz (30:34):
Creativity is you know for yourself, when you stand on
stage and you're doing somethingthat you made and it's creative
and you're showing it to otherpeople that your heart is on
your sleeve and you're feelingreally delicate, you shouldn't
tear other people down.
Get out there and support eachother.
Show up to other bands' liveshows.
Don't just go to your own.
Don't show up and play your setand leave.
Everybody needs to support eachother.
Will (30:56):
Hell yeah, love that this is another cool thing about
being on the road as well.
Another thing to get bands intogoing on the road, you can
collect cool band merch.
Yeah, into going on the road,you can collect cool band merch.
Dana (31:07):
Well it was a pleasure talking to you guys.
It was so refreshing to hearyour stories and see what you
guys are going through.
Final words to your fans andpeople out there that are
listening.
Will (31:25):
Embrace the insanity.
Listen to me go trip.
Beinn (31:28):
Yes, there you go there, you go good one I would like to
say support the local musicscene.
You know, save up some money.
Go to that gig.
That's only got five peoplethere.
Buy that pint, that's six quid,you know, do you know, if you
you want to go home to yourhotel early but stick around
watch that band, give them alittle nod of appreciation,
(31:51):
stuff like that.
Will (31:52):
It's the small things that matter If you need to still buy
your ticket and then just getyour cans from Aldi.
Ellis (32:03):
I would say just see a show, don't be nervous, don't do
a gig, because it might justchange your life might be
someone upstairs nervous as well.
Beinn (32:14):
You can make friends there.
Daz (32:16):
You go, true yeah, my final words, parting words.
Man has not evolved an inchfrom the slime that spawned him
we are friends, alright, guys.
Rob (32:26):
Man has not evolved an inch from the slime it spawned, we
are best.
All right guys.
Hey, it's been an absolutepleasure.
Hey, any future plans to hit inthe US?
I mean, I know it's probablykind of early in the game for
you.
I've only been together forlike a year or so, I think.
Beinn (32:41):
Will might be banned from America, but we'll see.
Will (32:44):
Why would I be banned from America?
Ellis (32:49):
Hey, well, we'd love to come and jam with you guys
someday yeah that's right, youput us on stage.
Rob (33:01):
Hey, can we do a follow-up interview with you guys when
you're done with your tour?
Is that something you'd bewilling to do?
Yeah, we'd love to hear thestories.
Absolutely, there'll be tons ofstories after that.
Dana (33:07):
I'm sure Can we do a follow-up interview with you
guys?
Will (33:09):
when you're done with your tour Is that something you'd be
willing to do?
Dana (33:10):
Yeah, yeah, we'd love to hear the stories, absolutely
there will be tons of storiesafter that.
Beinn (33:15):
I'm sure Don't any good ones.
Rob (33:17):
All right guys.
Hey, it's been an absolutepleasure, Thank you.
Thank you very much and we'llbe in touch, all right.
Thank you very much have a goodnight, thanks.
Bye you guys later.
Thank you peace.
Hi, welcome to Franklin's Garage to Stage podcast.
My name is Rob WardrumsFranklin and my co-host is Dana
Thunderbase Franklin.
Dana (00:10):
How are you guys all doing today?
Okay, today with us we have aspecial guest, a band all the
way from the United Kingdom.
It goes by the name of Ego Trip.
How are you guys doing?
Rob (00:28):
Thank you.
We're good.
Good name of ego trip how youguys doing.
If we could get you guys tointroduce yourself individually.
You really appreciate it in us.
In any order, you want nice tomeet you next anybody?
(00:50):
Going on now yeah, so.
Beinn (00:57):
I'm a guitarist.
I've got a weirdly spelt name.
I like moldy cheese.
Daz (01:01):
You've read my bio and yeah , I'm Daz and I've been a
permanent fill-in bass playerfor a while, permanent fill-in.
Rob (01:11):
I like that all right.
Dana (01:13):
So for anybody that's you know, never heard you guys
before or is trying to figureout who you are, um, so this one
I will okay bean.
This is a question for you andyou.
You know, maybe other everybodyelse in the band can can answer
this too, but nobody's everseen you.
How do you describe yourself asa band for somebody that's
(01:35):
never heard you guys before?
Well, how would you describeyourself?
Beinn (01:40):
Um, that's going to be a difficult question to answer.
I would say say well, first andforemost through a grunge band,
but we use the term grunge justas kind of an umbrella term,
just because there's so manythings that you could call
grunge, whereas otherwise, ifyou would say you were a groove
metal band, you're picking avery, a very definite category.
(02:00):
We have quite a wide range oftunes.
To be fair, we draw influencesfrom, obviously, like make
grunge artists, metal, all kindsof rock, pretty much anything
guitar-driven.
Will (02:13):
Basically, we've drawn influence from yeah, basically
it's all like something heavy orsomething with soul that we
take inspiration from always.
Really.
Rob (02:26):
And how would you guys describe your show to somebody
that hadn't seen you before?
Describe basically from whenyou set up to break down what
happens during your show.
Ellis (02:38):
The show is electric.
We start fast and bright andthen get heavier towards the
middle.
After everyone's had enough offeeling crushed under all the
heavy rifts, we lighten it upagain and ease everyone.
I think it's easy to getsomething a bit of a walk out
(02:58):
and kind of have to tuck in thehead.
Will (03:00):
For the rest of it, yeah, we like to go in a little bit
calm and then give them a realpunch and scare them a little
bit.
Like this is what we really are.
Rob (03:11):
I like it Well.
We believe in starting strongand ending strong.
You guys kind of do your setlist like that Take your best
material to begin with and thenclose out with something you
know is going to kick ass.
Will (03:26):
Oh yeah, we always close with something strong, like
always.
Dana (03:32):
So do you guys?
Is it mostly, do you do covers,or is it all originals?
Beinn (03:40):
I think we're aiming for all originals.
We throw in some covers, mainlyas almost kind of filler
material, but also it sort ofshows our influences.
We cover things like Alice inChains.
We do Black by Pearl Jam quitefrequently because people like
it.
We do kind of crowd pleasers inkind of the middle of the set
(04:02):
and then we ease out.
We definitely start and finishwith originals.
Dana (04:07):
That's one thing we've always suggested with cover
bands like you know what andwith your best song that you
wrote, and to let everybody knowwhat you're all about.
So, going on that with theoriginals that you guys do, who?
Is there one main person in theband that does the writing, or
is it a kind of a collaborationwith all of you guys?
Will (04:29):
well, at first it was just me and being the guitarist, but
then we we need we didn't needmore help, but we wanted more
and we wanted more creativity tocome into the, into the group.
And that's when we uh, wepicked up ellis and ellis
started throwing in idea leftand right.
Like he's, he's always gotsomething new brewing up there.
(04:50):
So, like we do, we do, we allcome together and we all, we all
make it gel these days.
So it's, it's everyone, it'severyone cool.
Rob (05:00):
How did you all get together?
I mean, what was the processfor?
I mean, was it like gettingtogether on social media ads in
the paper?
I mean, how'd you all gettogether?
I mean what was the process for?
I mean, was it getting togetheron social media ads in the
paper?
I mean, how did you all gettogether?
Beinn (05:11):
I had a job in a brewery and there was an open mic going
on.
Basically, one of the guys whoworked there owned a pub and I
was quite interested in going.
I was just going to take likean acoustic guitar but then
basically on the way I kind ofthought I can't sing, I need to
sing and I already knew Will atthe time.
We were quite good friends.
(05:33):
So Will came along and we alsogot a drummer.
It's not the same drummer, butwe brought him along and we just
kind of cruised.
I was a free piece for quite awhile after that and started
making me and Will startedwriting songs.
I'd write the riffs, he'd writethe lyrics, and we'd done that
for a while until we bought onEllis.
He's come along with quite alot of things you know like,
(05:56):
initially just contributions tostructure and things like that,
but again, that's stuff that weall need.
But then, yeah, over time,bringing ellis on, he started
coming up with, you know, ideasfor beats and he's been the
foundation for some of our songs, actually nice um.
And then when we brought in daz, daz made some quite useful
contributions on the bass um,like a lot of the bass riffs.
(06:19):
Obviously I kind of show himthe kind of root of what's on
the guitar and then he'll comeup with something that goes
around it instead of copies it,and I think that's that's quite
good and that's basically howwe've been since.
Will (06:32):
Daz was fundamental to one of our biggest gigs as well.
Yeah, like without Daz wewouldn't have been able to play
Kendall Colin, which which wasone of the biggest opportunities
we have ever been given as as'sa band in our really early
stages three years in gettingoff of a stage.
Part at Kendall Column wasmental, and that saved us on
(06:54):
that one.
Dana (06:56):
Nice, okay, so main influences for each one of you.
Well, I guess my first questionwould be at what age did you
figure out that music is whatyou wanted to do?
Was it, you know first concertyou went to, or something mom
and dad were jamming to at thehouse?
I mean, how did you get intothis world of music?
Rob (07:16):
still, my question Ellis, start with you.
Go ahead, Ellis.
Ellis (07:27):
Cool.
For me, this is what I wantedto do for the recent, I would
say only in the last year or two.
For me, drumming was more of ahobby.
I had an electronic drum that Iwas trying to learn initially.
Rob (07:44):
Hey, had an electronic drum kit in my house initially.
Hey, if you don't mind, couldyou turn up your volume, just a
hair.
Ellis (07:49):
Sure.
Rob (07:50):
Thank you I was just praying.
Ellis (07:51):
How about that?
Rob (07:52):
There you go, there you go yeah, for me.
Ellis (07:56):
I was just jamming in on an electronic drum kit for a
while there.
This was a hobby around thehouse and I've always quite
liked live concert videos onYouTube.
A lot of metallic arrayed.
Yeah, those guys just came withweight and power, maybe not
(08:16):
always very technical.
That seemed to work for me andthat's what I imitated
Flavioville.
But yeah, the Journey of Egotrip actually came full circle.
I think, seeing them the firsttime, they simply livened up the
team.
It was kind of instrumental.
(08:38):
It's come full circle in afunny way.
I saw their new songs, new riffs, new era of grunge, and that
made me go home in a way.
I wasn't thinking about beingin the band at that point, but I
was thinking and tellingeveryone I've just seen these
guys downtown and they're likethe next generation of grunge
and these song ideas.
They're like the nextgeneration of grunge and these
song ideas like.
They're like modern but likewithin nostalgia at the same
(08:59):
time.
Um, so that made me play morethan feel creative more, and the
next time I went to check inwith these guys, it's like
seeking new drummer.
So it kind of went from there.
Um, I gave them some idea ofwhat I could do.
Um, they gave me a track oftheirs to lay down drums on, and
I guess it started there,probably over a year ago.
Rob (09:21):
Who's your biggest influence?
Ellis (09:24):
Oh, biggest.
It's a bit embarrassing, butLars Owen there you go okay.
He's a loud mouth.
He's like Marmite.
I love him, I hate him, buthe's very successful and very
clever.
He knows where he sits withinthe band.
He's got amite, but he's verysuccessful and very clever.
He knows where he sits withinthe band.
Rob (09:40):
He's got a solid meter, that's for sure.
Lord William, what's going onto you, man?
Will (09:48):
Well, I've always Been into music.
I've been going to metalfestivals From a really young
age.
I started about 3 years old Onstage with all the big bands and
stuff.
So I just I got to see likethat side of things and I was
like this is, this is what Iwant to do, and I've dabbled in
like every instrument possible,like guitar, drums, everything
(10:09):
yeah, but none of them reallystuck with me.
I can, I enjoy them, but likeit's not a thing where I'm like
I'm good at that, because I'mnot by any means.
But singing is the one thingthat I've ever got feedback from
people and they've been likeyou're, you're amazing, like
you're really good.
And we, when we were startingout the open mic nights, I'd get
(10:29):
people like, to be fair, I getthem sort of annoying me a
little bit with the you'reawesome, you're awesome, just be
like, come on, but yeah, fromfrom that.
It's what made me really wantto pursue the music stuff.
Oh, I'm biggest influence,alison chins okay and beam um,
(10:54):
for me.
Beinn (10:55):
I started playing guitar at the age of I think I was
about 12.
I got a guitar for my 13thbirthday and I've just never put
it down since.
I played all through school andI think I was maybe only a
couple of years in when Irealized music's definitely a
thing that I wanted to do.
I've been in a few bands.
Some of them were to a pointwhere you just come up with a
(11:17):
name and that was all that everhappened.
You just had a name.
Um, I've been in one thatplayed like one gig and then I
just kind of coasted about until, obviously, I met will and uh
ellis, and I always said tomyself that I'd never go to a
festival until I was playing one.
Dana (11:37):
That was a good answer.
Beinn (11:38):
The festival I'd go to would be one that I played at
and, funnily enough, that turnedout to be true with the Kendall
Calling gig last year, againthanks to Daz.
My biggest influence, I wouldhave to say, is Pantera.
I basically grew on Pantera.
It's a massive thing for mejust being able to play sick
(11:58):
riffs on the guitar.
Will (12:00):
There's definitely a lot of steve rae vaughn in that mix
though oh, yeah, actually, yeah,I can't deny the stevie's.
Rob (12:06):
And I love that bluesy aspect of it too, though cool.
Dana (12:11):
Okay.
So with the name uh name egotrip.
How did that come about?
Who came up with that and isthere a special meaning behind
it?
Will (12:21):
um, well, basically for the open mic night, we didn't
have a name and they were likewriting our individual names on
the board and I thought that'sshite, like I don't like that.
So I just went over and rubbedit out, put Equotrip from there,
just stayed with it.
We'll probably get a lawsuit inthe future.
Rob (12:43):
No, I don't think so.
I think we'll get it.
My question to all of you guysis is the band more of a
democracy or do you havesomebody that really takes on a
leadership role?
Ellis (12:59):
Oh, it's a dictatorship, dictatorship.
Will (13:03):
That is the dictator.
Dana (13:08):
It's always the quiet one right.
Beinn (13:10):
Yeah exactly.
Ellis (13:13):
There's an extra guy I can't tell you about.
He's the puppet master.
Daz (13:21):
On the podcast you can't see them pointing fingers, but
on video they're.
They're all pointing fingers.
It's always the one who's doingthe pointing.
That's the one you want towatch out for, basically okay,
no, go ahead I guess early on.
Ellis (13:34):
yeah, um, obviously will, and bean had a lot of things to
bring to the table already thatexisted prior to the ego trip,
ones that have been sat aroundfor a while and given new life,
but now that we're on to a brandnew thing the right four pieces
it's probably what I'd like todo.
Yeah.
Dana (13:54):
Cool With band developments and getting things
going as a unit.
You know there's so much thatgoes into it that we've
discussed on our other.
You know podcast episodes.
You know it's I mean you guysare like it's like a family.
I mean you guys know each otherbetter than probably any
significant others orgirlfriends, wives, whatever.
What plays into as far as youguys all getting along.
(14:18):
And the discussion on, say,drinking and drugs before
practice, after practice, duringshows.
How do you, how do you guysdeal with that as as a family?
Beinn (14:30):
we just get very drunk.
I like it, I love that.
Ellis (14:32):
I think the recent tiering in a band together as a
unit has helped a lot in termsof growing closer to each other,
knowing the boundaries and do'sand don'ts, things like that I
think we've been on the samepage since day one in terms of
(14:56):
shows and behavior and etiquette.
shows.
I think we did all thatphrasing about behind closed
doors when we're writing andjamming, once it's gig night,
you know we're all just on thesame page, it's be all over the
stage.
Set everything up, justabsolutely play them with our
best and kind of I don't know,yeah, we're kicking it some sort
(15:18):
of of I don't know, yeah, we'rekicking it some sort of mode?
Rob (15:20):
I don't know.
Will (15:24):
We've never like directly said this is a do and don't,
because you don't want to setrestrictions on people there,
but it's just don't take thepiss out of each other, just be
good to each other, really, andthat's what it's about.
Rob (15:38):
Good attitude.
So we talked about this withDaz, but we have a moment we
call oh shit.
So this is individually if youcould tell us a particular time
when you've played live orwhatever, where you've had a
real embarrassing or realsomething really bad happen to
you during a performance.
(15:59):
Ellis, let's start with you.
Ellis (16:03):
I've got a bunch as a drummer.
Rob (16:04):
I don't know about you.
Ellis (16:08):
I guess, in small context , my first gig with these guys
was a little bit sprung upon me.
I mean, you never feel readyfor your first gig, right, a
little bit sprung upon me.
I mean you never feel ready foryour first horizon.
Um, we, we jammed maybe twotimes together possibly three.
Rob (16:23):
I think in first really wow .
Ellis (16:25):
The first people, like after worked on something like,
would come along and I was like,oh man, yeah, go on.
Then, like I couldn't reallysay no, I thought this is the
start of the journey.
Um, we'll go down, we're allset up, we're all good.
I've borrowed some of theOakland band's equipment, which
is always nice.
And then, I think at the lastminute I think, we had a song
(16:46):
swap, one that I'd maybe notpracticed.
I think we went from.
It was a Mad Season song that Ihad under the belt.
It's certainly a Pearl Jam onethat I reckon I maybe knew.
So that was real scary, was theoh shit moment.
We went for it.
There's a couple clubs, acouple like turn around like
(17:07):
evil eyes, but we got through itand uh, yeah, it sounded enough
like this song, but that was.
That was probably the scariestmoment, but that's, that's not
too bad and lord william howabout you scariest moment, but
that's not too bad.
Dana (17:22):
And, lord William, how about you?
Will (17:26):
um the last, literally the last gig we did.
Dana (17:32):
I mean, are we talking the whole gig or something?
Will (17:37):
the whole set my voice went on the first song, like
first song we started.
I'm like, oh man, I looked, Ilooked right at.
Daz (17:46):
That's actually like I don't know if I can do this I
gotta tell you from the otherside too, because we was a we're
playing weekends, right.
So we're out friday, saturday,sunday, right, and the band that
was with us.
They showed up on the first dayand the drummer and the guitar
player were wheezing andcoughing and they both were
walking around this tiny littleroom saying, oh, we're sick,
(18:08):
we're sick, we're sick.
And of course my immediatedefenses kick in right, and we
hit the Sunday show, the verylast show, the most recent one
we did, and Will was fine allmorning and just before we got
up on stage he started wheezingand coughing.
He grabbed the microphone andthe very first note was off.
He looked at me and I justlooked him in the eye and was
like this is going to be sopainful.
(18:30):
This is going to hurt you and meit was so bad.
Beinn (18:34):
Poor guy.
I was down by the end of thefirst night.
I'd already got it off him.
Will (18:41):
We were all bad.
I was down by the end of thefirst night.
I'd already got it off them.
We weren't there and shamed theband, though we won't do that
to them they were lovely, butthey were troopers, right, they
showed up, etc.
Daz (18:52):
But I would have preferred if they waited in the car.
Beinn (18:55):
Yeah, mean one of my biggest oh shit moments, bean.
One of my biggest oh shitmoments I think would be at.
Actually, I'm going to refer tothe last show.
Rob (19:14):
I would play with you.
I wish we'd have been at thelast show.
Beinn (19:19):
Basically everything you could think of went wrong.
I had a couple of presets on myamp and to use the presets, you
, you, uh, you press a button toselect the preset right, but if
you hold the button down, itlike erases the preset and puts
it to whatever the currentsettings are.
(19:40):
And the amp.
So it just copies what's on thedials.
And, uh, I was getting daz, whowas on the other side of the
stage where my amp was.
I was in front of his cab so hewas changing the settings for
me and I was like, yeah, pressthat button.
And I looked over and seen himput his finger down on the
button and just hold it thereand I was thinking, oh no, oh no
(20:01):
.
And I rolled the volume onchugged and I was like you've
just erased my tone, you've justcompletely erased.
So I had to go over and likeinvent a new tone.
Literally in the middle of twosongs.
Rob (20:13):
I think it's hard to sound it off all right, so yeah,
that's.
Beinn (20:18):
We've already discussed yours, unless you have another
one, oh we know you, so I'lljust sound it off.
Rob (20:21):
Okay, all right.
Dana (20:21):
So yeah, daz, we've already discussed yours, unless
you have another one.
Oh, we know you got more.
Rob (20:25):
No, no, no.
Daz (20:26):
No, we'll stick with it.
You know I have many more, butwe'll stick with that one.
It was a good one.
Will (20:30):
Okay, have you got one, in particular with Ego Trip,
though?
Daz (20:35):
With Ego Trip.
I don trip, I don't know.
Ellis and I have the same egotrip story, right?
I mean, it's exactly the samething, right?
You got you two, just um.
I think you perceive it thatit's a grunge thing to not be
prepared for stuff.
So like we get up and we'reready to play something and
suddenly there's an audible hey,let's play that song we
rehearsed once.
Yeah, oh, yeah, oh, okay, theone I can't remember how it goes
(20:59):
.
You go ahead and start playing.
No, it starts with a bass.
Give me a hint.
Yeah, we did the same thing toboth of us, but that's not an
ocean moment, that's just acamaraderie moment.
Dana (21:15):
You're just doing your thing which kind of brings me
next, brings me to another,another question that you know
every band goes through, nomatter how long they've been
together.
Um, covering for mistakes, live, how.
How do you guys go about doingthat?
Is there a side glance that youjust you know?
Say the the singer comes in alittle late on a verse, or
(21:36):
somebody goes in a little bittoo early on a verse.
You know how do you guys covermistakes without trying to let
anybody else know about it.
Rob (21:43):
I rely on my bass player.
I don't know.
Beinn (21:47):
Mainly, we just look at each other and smirk the mistake
.
Like you look in the audienceand think, nah, you don't know.
Rob (21:55):
Yeah, yeah, they don't, they really don't the uh the
yeah, they don't.
Will (22:00):
They really don't.
The usual methods blame thedrummer.
Oh, that's cold.
Rob (22:07):
Me and him would have a problem.
Ellis (22:12):
My point is to find the one and hit a crash or two, and
then you're back in.
Rob (22:18):
There you go, so tell us about what you got coming up for
future shows.
Will (22:21):
crash or two, and then you're back in.
There you go.
Rob (22:22):
Tell us about what you've got coming up for future shows.
Tell everybody what's going onand what to expect from you in
the next few weeks, next coupleof months.
Ellis (22:32):
This weekend Perfect timing.
Yeah, we begin our next leg onthe time of recording this.
In two days we are goingthrough to Lancaster to play the
Pantina.
We are playing in Arlisle atthe Source Selected, the
unofficial official MotorheadDay.
Daz (22:55):
Oh, it's the International Motorhead Day, yeah.
Rob (22:58):
Oh yes, really Cool.
Ellis (23:00):
Saturday is Coventry in the Arces Day.
Yeah, oh nice, Really oh cool.
Saturday is Coventry in theArcturus.
So, yeah, a few exciting bigcrowds We've had a few people
telling us they're coming tothis and a few good pre-sales.
Yeah, lots of spirit, lots ofenergy, Looking forward to the
next leg of the tour Awesome.
Dana (23:19):
Awesome, okay.
So how about stories of guysyou guys stealing each other's
girlfriends or shit like that?
Any of that coming up yet?
Not yet.
Ellis (23:34):
Give the tour a little time An invisible list of band
rules in the van.
Jazzy is in charge of tappingthe van.
Yeah, I think.
No relation on the road.
Will (23:44):
I think is one of the top that's a good rule, yeah to be
fair, though, not stealing eachother's girlfriends isn't on
that band rules list not yetanyway we should want one yeah
(24:06):
maybe the dictatorship justadded another okay, okay.
Dana (24:13):
So, so, daz, are you?
Are you in um, are you kind ofin control of all the going-ons
on the road?
As the older figure.
Daz (24:25):
Yeah, yeah, it is the older figure thing.
You can't escape that.
The age is there and it'sevidence.
But I'm also the only one whodrives, oh really.
Rob (24:33):
Oh man.
Daz (24:34):
Yeah, that's good fun when you've got the responsibility of
getting you to the venue,getting you safely back from the
venue, oh, and playing forthree to four hours on stage
every night, because it's threehours.
Will (24:44):
Yeah, he has got the most responsibility on the road
because he's not just the driver, he plays in all three bands
like Bear.
Pigs, ego Troop and his ownband Loser, which is a lot to do
, it is.
Daz (24:56):
Oh yeah, yeah it is, if you don't mind, I'd like to plug
the fact that these guys havefinished recording their first
album.
Rob (25:07):
I was going to ask about that.
Daz (25:08):
It's being mixed.
Yeah, and I'll ask them to talkabout it after.
I share an Ellis story, whichis because, you know, ellis did
the drums first, so we did somescratch tracks along with Ellis
and then we kept, accidentally.
You know, the did the drumsfirst, so we did some scratch
tracks along with Ellis and thenwe kept, accidentally.
(25:29):
You know the way, in a DAW youcan grab all of the tracks at
once and they slip around alittle bit if you wanted to.
We kept accidentally slippingthe tracks just slightly off the
drums that were recorded andthen looking at each other and
wondering why Ellis had madesuch a horrible mistake.
He was off by a beat.
At least twice during thiswhole entire album recording we
were convinced Ellis was off bya beat.
Why is the bass drum?
Will (25:50):
on the tour?
Daz (25:50):
It doesn't make any sense.
Will (25:53):
The worst thing is he wasn't even there and we were
just blaming him.
Dana (25:56):
That's just wrong, that's just wrong.
Beinn (26:00):
It's amazing.
But the thing oh shit, oh man,that's just wrong.
That's just wrong.
That's so much shit, bob,that's just amazing.
But the thing is, if he haddone that, it would have been
really impressive, because hewas off by a beat consistently,
the whole way through.
True, still in time, but off bya beat.
It's amazing.
Ellis (26:16):
An intentional, creative decision.
Clearly.
Beinn (26:19):
Yeah, you're just playing one beat late for the entire
song.
Dana (26:26):
So, with that recording that you guys did, how was that
process?
I mean, did you guys all go inthere individually and do it, or
was it one in each room?
Tell us about the completeprocess and how you did it.
Will (26:45):
Well, we went in together really for the first few tracks
and then there was two left overand guitars and drums fully
done on and I had to go back andadd my parts over.
But yeah, for the most part wewere all in together, weren't we
?
Pretty much live, or I'm prettysure actually Daz did.
I think Daz did his takes onhis own.
(27:06):
No yeah.
Beinn (27:07):
Daz did.
The bass takes about this yeah.
Daz (27:09):
It wasn't live room tracked right, the drums were tracked
to some scratch play-alongs andthen those play-alongs were
thrown out and we then did theguitar, the bass next and then
the guitar and then the vocalsand sub-detection.
Rob (27:24):
Cool, cool, and when?
Daz (27:26):
is that going to be released?
Rob (27:27):
We did that at Rex.
Is that released already?
We did that at Rex.
Daz (27:30):
It's so close.
It's being mixed.
Rex Studio Promotions RexStudio here in Carlisle.
They're amazing and we recordedthe whole entire thing with
them.
He's currently got it formixing and mastering.
Hopefully it'll be out withinthe next month or so so we can
start making copies to bring onthe road.
Rob (27:50):
Cool, Please keep us updated and we'll get that
information out, so you can getsome downloads through us as
well.
Dana (28:00):
Absolutely, absolutely.
Thank you very much, yeah, ofcourse.
So, guys, you know our podcastbasically it's.
You know, as the name implies,it's Garage, the Stage.
We try to throw out tips andsuggestions to any musician
that's out there, whetherthey're just starting out in
their bedroom or in the firstband in the garage, you know, to
make it to the level, to whereyou know you guys are at on the
stage and performing andrecording.
(28:21):
Each one of you give asuggestion to new musicians out
there and your number one tip ofwhat they can do to make
themselves not only better butto get to the level you guys are
at.
Beinn (28:35):
Stay out of our way.
Good, all right, I like that.
I like that way.
One tip is to not be afraid toalmost.
I think Phil Anselmo said this.
(28:55):
He basically said rip off everyband.
You know, I wouldn't say to doit that shamelessly, but it's
okay to take influences fromthings, and music is a bit of an
ongoing conversation.
Almost you can basically takesomething that's already been
made and make it new again byjust changing two notes.
If it sounds good, play ittwice, kind of thing.
Rob (29:16):
I think we've all done it.
Beinn (29:17):
I went and ripped off loads of the Beatles and it
worked for them.
Yeah.
Will (29:22):
I just said, do what makes you happy.
Go, go, get on stage, play yourheart out, sing your heart out,
drum your heart out.
Just do it because it's fuckingfun.
Daz (29:34):
It's awesome.
Ellis (29:37):
Alice.
Rob (29:41):
Alice, did we lose you?
It looks like Alice.
Dana (29:44):
He's frozen.
Ellis (29:45):
There you go we got back in, we're back in, you guys in
there, okay.
Rob (29:52):
Gotcha.
Well, maybe not.
Ellis (29:56):
The best time to take the leap is yesterday.
I feel like if you wait to feelready, you never will.
You kind of just need to gointo it and make it yours and
make it a place that'scomfortable and you can progress
within.
And what I had and I kind ofwish I'd done it sooner, because
this has been a lot so- verycool, very cool does it's not a
(30:19):
zero-sum game.
Daz (30:21):
Uh, bean was joking and we all laughed so hard about it
because of the same reason.
But I mean, you don't makeyourself better by tearing
someone else down.
Rob (30:29):
So it's good advice, right.
Daz (30:34):
Creativity is you know for yourself, when you stand on
stage and you're doing somethingthat you made and it's creative
and you're showing it to otherpeople that your heart is on
your sleeve and you're feelingreally delicate, you shouldn't
tear other people down.
Get out there and support eachother.
Show up to other bands' liveshows.
Don't just go to your own.
Don't show up and play your setand leave.
Everybody needs to support eachother.
Will (30:56):
Hell yeah, love that this is another cool thing about
being on the road as well.
Another thing to get bands intogoing on the road, you can
collect cool band merch.
Yeah, into going on the road,you can collect cool band merch.
Dana (31:07):
Well it was a pleasure talking to you guys.
It was so refreshing to hearyour stories and see what you
guys are going through.
Final words to your fans andpeople out there that are
listening.
Will (31:25):
Embrace the insanity.
Listen to me go trip.
Beinn (31:28):
Yes, there you go there, you go good one I would like to
say support the local musicscene.
You know, save up some money.
Go to that gig.
That's only got five peoplethere.
Buy that pint, that's six quid,you know, do you know, if you
you want to go home to yourhotel early but stick around
watch that band, give them alittle nod of appreciation,
(31:51):
stuff like that.
Will (31:52):
It's the small things that matter If you need to still buy
your ticket and then just getyour cans from Aldi.
Ellis (32:03):
I would say just see a show, don't be nervous, don't do
a gig, because it might justchange your life might be
someone upstairs nervous as well.
Beinn (32:14):
You can make friends there.
Daz (32:16):
You go, true yeah, my final words, parting words.
Man has not evolved an inchfrom the slime that spawned him
we are friends, alright, guys.
Rob (32:26):
Man has not evolved an inch from the slime it spawned, we
are best.
All right guys.
Hey, it's been an absolutepleasure.
Hey, any future plans to hit inthe US?
I mean, I know it's probablykind of early in the game for
you.
I've only been together forlike a year or so, I think.
Beinn (32:41):
Will might be banned from America, but we'll see.
Will (32:44):
Why would I be banned from America?
Ellis (32:49):
Hey, well, we'd love to come and jam with you guys
someday yeah that's right, youput us on stage.
Rob (33:01):
Hey, can we do a follow-up interview with you guys when
you're done with your tour?
Is that something you'd bewilling to do?
Yeah, we'd love to hear thestories.
Absolutely, there'll be tons ofstories after that.
Dana (33:07):
I'm sure Can we do a follow-up interview with you
guys?
Will (33:09):
when you're done with your tour Is that something you'd be
willing to do?
Dana (33:10):
Yeah, yeah, we'd love to hear the stories, absolutely
there will be tons of storiesafter that.
Beinn (33:15):
I'm sure Don't any good ones.
Rob (33:17):
All right guys.
Hey, it's been an absolutepleasure, Thank you.
Thank you very much and we'llbe in touch, all right.
Thank you very much have a goodnight, thanks.
Bye you guys later.
Thank you peace.
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