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September 10, 2025 28 mins

"The two most important days of your life is when you're born and the day you discover why." Mark Twain's profound words resonate deeply with musicians who can pinpoint the exact moment music became their life's purpose. After a three-month hiatus following co-host Rob's life-threatening medical emergency, Franklin's Garage to Stage returns with heart and metal spirit intact.

Rob's harrowing experience with an esophageal rupture left him hospitalized with doctors preparing for the worst. "Metal kept you alive," Dana observes, as Rob confirms that his motivation to play music again helped pull him through. This near-death experience reinforces the podcast's core message: real musicians play for love, not money or fame. As the hosts note, most of their shows barely covered their beer tabs, yet the passion never dimmed.

The episode journeys through recent guest interviews, spotlighting incredible musicians and their stories. Martin Motnik, Accept's bass virtuoso, embodies the musician's dream – growing up with the band's poster on his wall and now performing with them on their 50th anniversary tour. His Nashville studio and diverse musical projects from jazz to metal showcase a true multi-genre talent.

The UK metal scene features prominently with Daz "Evil Hate" from Motörhead tribute band Loser, who impresses not just with his wall of 30 bass guitars but his commitment to supporting local acts wherever they tour. Jay Ball of Gospels of Odin wields his guitar "like a Viking sword" alongside his sons who handle vocal duties, creating powerful tracks that honor influences like Black Sabbath while forging their own distinctive sound.

Michael Carpenter, owner of The Rooster venue in North Carolina, offers invaluable advice for emerging bands: maintain active social media presence, as venue owners scout bands online and want to see consistent fan engagement. His dedication to original music across all genres exemplifies the supportive community spirit essential to musical growth.

Between guest highlights, the hosts share their embarrassing "Oh Shit" moments – from Dana's substance-induced studio fiasco to Rob's post-show walk of shame in full 80s metal regalia after his car broke down. These candid stories remind listeners that the road to musical mastery includes plenty of humbling experiences.

As the podcast approaches its one-year milestone and 50,000 listeners, the hosts express heartfelt gratitude to their growing audience. Have you discovered your musical purpose yet? Join the conversation and connect with fellow musicians who understand that true passion transcends fame and fortune.

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Rob (00:02):
Hello, welcome to Franklin's Garage to Stage
podcast.
My name is Rob WardrumsFranklin and my co-host is Dana
Thunderbase.

Dana (00:10):
Franklin.

Rob (00:11):
How you doing, man.
It's been a while, huh.

Dana (00:14):
Oh man, it's been what?
Three months or something.
Yeah.

Rob (00:18):
I'll give you a short little explanation here.
I had what's called esophagealrupture, and if you don't know
what that means, join the club.
I didn't either.
What that basically means isyour food tube the way the food
goes down to your stomach had ahole in it.
So basically my food was goinginto my chest cavity, which
basically could kill you.
So I was in the hospital for amonth and a half.

(00:40):
Just to give you a shortexplanation of what happened, so
we're back yeah, and you knowglad to be back how about you.

Dana (00:47):
Oh, definitely glad to be back.
You know there's there's awhile there and you know I don't
want to get into this too long,but you know you were sitting
in the hospital bed, tubes andshit all over you, and you know
dr pretty much said call priestsand do the last rites, and you
know it was, it was touchingover there it was pretty.
It was pretty sketch there.

Rob (01:04):
Chest tubes and all kinds of drains and all kinds of crap
sticking to my body.

Dana (01:08):
You know?
That's just another reason tosay you know metal kept you
alive.

Rob (01:12):
Exactly exactly and wanting to play again.
That was my motivation.
So basically, today we're goingto kind of do a recap of our
last like four episodes withguests that we've had.
They've been amazing guests,we've had some outstanding
interviews.
But first I want to start offwith a quote.
This is a quote by Mark Twainand I think it really fits

(01:34):
musicians, not wannabes, nothobbyists or not, those that had
like a little high school bandand then stopped because they
felt like they outgrew it, butmusicians.
And the quote basically goesthe two most important days of
your life is when you're bornand the day you discover why.
And I think musicians, I thinkthey all know that day.

(01:54):
At least I know I do.
I know exactly the day when andwhy I got into music, and I
think most musicians arebasically fit to that same
category.

Dana (02:06):
Yeah, I think everybody can.
Well, the real musicians canpinpoint that.

Rob (02:09):
Exactly.

Dana (02:10):
Up to probably to the hour of oh shit, I saw this show or
I saw this person or I heardthis, and you know, usually it
was you know one certain albumor song that they heard on you
know radio or saw live andthey're like, oh shit, this is
what I want to do the rest of mylife I think musician, real
musicians, it's not all aboutfame and fortune and money.

Rob (02:28):
Of course, you know that's great if you can get there.
But even the ones that getthere, you know they continue to
play because they're in theirheart.

Dana (02:36):
They're a musician, that's what they want to do yeah, I
mean, how long we've beenplaying, how much money do we
have exactly, exactly?

Rob (02:43):
For many of our shows we didn't even make enough to pay
for our beer bills.
So it's not really about themoney, it's about the love of it
.
And me personally, I look at mykit and I smile.
I mean, even if you have ashitty kit, or if you're a
drummer and have a shitty kit, Ithink just looking at your
instrument makes you smile, ifyou're a real musician.

Dana (03:05):
At least that's the way I feel.
No, that's definitely for sure.
Cool, yeah, I hear you.

Rob (03:09):
Well, anyway, dan, kick us off.
My voice is still kind ofsketchy because I had like tubes
of crap down my throat, so Iapologize for that.

Dana (03:18):
Oh, put your whining.
You only had what?
10 surgeries.

Rob (03:21):
I mean, come on, get over it, nothing but you know I'm
going to let Dana do a majorityof the talking today, but anyway
, kick it off with our first oneI think we should recap is the
one with Bart Motnik Absolutely,absolutely.

Dana (03:34):
That was you know, and that one was, you know, just
going back, you know, if anybodyhas listened to that one.
It was a special day for usbecause not only did we get to
interview, like rob said, martinmotnik, who's the bass player
for the, you know german heavymetal band except which they go
back 40, 50 years, um, and justamazing one of my all-time

(03:54):
favorite bands, but the factthat we got to talk with him
live, a bass player because I'ma bass player made it happy.
But you know, my brother overhere happened to set it up on a
special day, on march 26, whichhappened to have been my
birthday.
So this is like I mean, it'slike a dream come true for me,
you know to be able to talk to aprofessional bass player from a
band that I loved on mybirthday.

Rob (04:16):
I mean it's awesome.

Dana (04:18):
The guy I mean you know, martin, is one of those
musicians that just so down toearth you would never know that
he's with a huge band like that.
Just a really cool guy.
I wish we could have talked forhim even longer.
Maybe we can hook up with himlater on.

Rob (04:32):
I hope so.

Dana (04:33):
The guy was just amazing.
His list of some of thecredentials that he has was just
amazing.
Not only a bass player, but heplayed upright bass and he does
stuff with, you know, jazz bands, funk bands and, of course, the
heavy metal and you know rock,I think he.
You know he lives in nashvillearea, so he's doing stuff with

(04:53):
some country bands too.
Um, he's got his own studio inhome that, uh, you know, I gotta
think of the name of it now.
I think this is called bassstudios or studio bass or
something like that.
Um, you can look online for himand it's just.

Rob (05:07):
I mean, he, he does everything under the sun, it's
just the guy's amazing and checkout our website because, uh,
franklin's garage stagecom,because we have links to all his
socials on our guest page aswell.
So, yeah, please do check himout and his, uh, his socials,
because he does uh recording forfor basically anybody that will

(05:28):
hire him as well.
So, yeah, check out his website.
He's a, like Dana said, killerdude.
He's beyond talented.

Dana (05:35):
Yeah, yeah.
And that goes the same with anyof the musicians or the bands
that we're talking about.
You know we have links for allof them on our website.
So, yeah, definitely check thatout.
Links for all of them on ourwebsite.
So yeah, definitely check thatout.
And going back to Martin, he hasthis.
You know I call his storiesalmost like that.
If you've ever seen Rockstarwith Mark Wahlberg, it's like
you know a guy that idolizesthis band and, you know, gets to

(05:56):
go see him live and all of asudden he's on the same stage
with him.
I mean, Martin went through thesame thing he was telling us
about.
You know he had a poster ofAccept in his room when he was
growing up as a teenager.
What a story, man.
And now he's on stage with them.
And yeah, accept, of coursethey're on the road doing a
50-year anniversary thing, Ithink, with Judas Priest, or if
they're done with it, I'm notquite sure.

(06:18):
I should probably know that,but I mean, god, what a life.
I mean that's.
I'll tell you what.
And he's got a couple soloprojects too.
You should really check out.
You know one that's calledDream Chasers and another one
called Bass Invaders Really coolstuff on that.
It's like you know some stuffthat's really metal.
You know some mellow stuff,some metal stuff, rock, I mean

(06:41):
just a little combination ofeverything.
It's really really sick, so youknow.

Rob (06:50):
Next, up on.

Dana (06:52):
You know the recap of what we're doing here with all these
.
You know amazing musicians andbands and you'll notice.
I think all these guys, withthe exception of the last one
we're going to talk about, arefrom the UK.
I mean, we just got on this bigtrip from the.

Rob (07:05):
UK.
Well, Martin, he's currently inNashville, but yeah, yeah.

Dana (07:10):
And then these next three bands and individuals we're
going to talk about.
They're all from the UnitedKingdom and just kick-ass people
.
So next guy we talked to is aguy named Daz Evil Hate.
We just call him Daz.
He's just another bass player,but he fronts a band that is a
tribute band to Motorhead calledLoser, and they have just been

(07:33):
on a tear lately.
I mean they're doing festivalsand all over the UK, Birmingham,
I mean just the whole area.
I think they even did somethingup in.
Was it Ireland, or maybeScotland?
or one of those little places upthere, but they're just all
over the place doing all kindsof stuff.
And Daz is another amazing,another guy that I'm just very
jealous of you know.

(07:54):
He showed me his wall of bassesthat he had, and had about 30
of them, you know, a couple ofRickenbackers, of course, just
like Lemmy, and I mean it's justreally cool.
And the guy was know, anotherreal down-to-earth musician and,
and what I like about a lot ofthe stuff that he was doing was,
of course, their tribute band.
But he's had a couple otherbands underneath them that, um,

(08:18):
are you know, different styles.
I mean, you got the motorheadand you know the band underneath
them that, you know, is morelike uh, uh, what do you call it
?
like that whole seattle, thegrunge grunge band thing and
then another band, um, that evenopened up around that, which
was like a really hard hardmetal, I think like a metalcore
or black metal, whatever youwant to call it.

(08:39):
So it's kind of cool that theydo all the different influences
on that, and I think that, um,he was also saying that they do,
uh, you know, try to get local.
You know, whenever they go onthe road, you know, whatever
city they're in, they try to geta local.

Rob (08:53):
Yeah, they try to get a supporting act.
That's uh local.

Dana (08:55):
Yeah, I think they even did like a comedian or something
too right.
In fact, they do have one thattravels with a comedian that
actually opened up the wholething.
So it's like a really coolconcept of what he does and he
basically was running the show.
I mean, like he said, he wasdriving the band pretty much
doing it all and you know it'sfunny because the two bands that
play with them regularly.

(09:16):
He's the bass player for bothof them too.
So this guy's playing like fourhours in a row driving the band
and it's like holy shit.

Rob (09:24):
What really impressed me about that guy is he's all about
supporting other bands too, notabout just like pumping his
band, but he's all about helpingother bands in the area as well
.
So I think that's just beyondcool.

Dana (09:36):
Yeah, in fact we had a hard time trying to get him to
talk about himself.
I know, because he alwayswanted to talk about the bands
that were opening up for him and, yeah, really cool, really cool
.
So one of the bands that Ithink it was the next one that
opened up for him was a bandcalled Ego Trip.
Really cool guys.
You know, of course, daz is thebass player, but then they had

(09:56):
these other guys that you knowpretty much teenagers and
20-year-olds that were justfunny as hell.

Rob (10:02):
Oh, yeah they were.
It was really fun, and checkout those episodes when you get
a chance to, because they are,like, really, really good in my
opinion.
Yeah, talking to, yeah, talkingto these guys was so cool.

Dana (10:11):
Oh, it was a good time.
In fact, we said we were goingto do a follow-up with them too
when they got done with theirtour, because I think they're
getting ready to wrap that up.
And Eagle Trip they just putout a new album.
It's a streaming or CD, whateveryou want to call it nowadays,
but they just put out a bunch ofnew material, so definitely
check them out.
I'd like to mention them themuh, the drummer was ellis, uh,

(10:37):
non-vocals was will and theguitar player, um, I think I'm
saying this right bean or buyingsomething like that.
I think it was bean.
Yeah, and of course, dad's onthe bass and, just like I said,
really cool guys.
Talking to him, you can tellthat they were like a little
family, you know.
Just whenever they're going onthe road they, you know, fuck
with each other all the time andwe're talking about how they
mess with the girls and and doall kinds of you know what.
What a road trip would reallybe like as young musicians.

Rob (10:58):
So so it was really cool guy, really cool guys, fun to
talk to you.

Dana (11:01):
A lot of fun yeah definitely we definitely got to
do a follow-up with them yeah,um, and then another band that
opened up with these guys, likeI said, it was, you know, loser
ego chip.
And then there's another bandthat that did that and they were
called the bay of pigs oh,that's right.
I'm sorry, but I forgot aboutthat, yeah bay of pigs and
they're like a real heavy metal.

(11:22):
We we didn't get a chance totalk with them at all, with the
exception of daz, who's the bassplayer for them also, um, but
from what I understand, they'rejust like a real dark heavy
metal, speed metal type band andwe'd really like to talk to
those guys because that's youknow, of course I love that kind
of music a little bit more thanyou know grunge or country or

(11:43):
rap.
Not to say anything bad aboutanybody, and you know, if you're
a musician, you're a musicianand we applaud you for any genre
you do, because we know what ittakes to just to get out there
and play.

Rob (11:55):
So, yeah, for any genre you do, because we know what it
takes to just to get out thereand play um.

Dana (11:59):
So yeah, next next here is Thank you, musician, amazing

(12:30):
dude, and his, his band, they'recalled the gospels of odin, out
of the united kingdom, and justthey fucking rip.
I mean I don't know what elseto say.
It's definitely the kind ofstyle of music that I think we
both love and they just they,they fucking kill it.
That's all it's to it.
Um, the dude is a hell of a guy.

(12:51):
Um, his name is Jay Jay balland he he's just how do I
describe it?
Um, I think I I read somethingon there where it says you know,
his, his guitar work is likesomething you know, of course,
being called gospels of Odin.
Um, guitar work is something outof his guitar work is.

(13:12):
You know, I read a thing.
It says his, his guitar is islike he wields his guitar like a
Viking sword and you know, Imean, that fits their style of
music and and that's exactly howI would.
You know, of course, he keepsmentioning one of his big
influences is Tony Iommi fromBlack Sabbath, which is fitting
because they're from the samearea, but it's, it sounds like

(13:35):
that, and the guy is just like Isaid he rips, he kills, and
he's got his two young sonstheir first material that he was
doing.
His son, levi, you know, did alot of the vocals on it and it's
more like the screaming vocalswhich you know he kills.
It absolutely kills it.
It goes with the work very well.
Vocals which you know he kills.
It absolutely kills it.
It goes with the work very well.

(13:55):
Then, on some of the newmaterial he's doing right now,
his other son and the name isI'm not sure what his first real
name is, but he goes by thename of Screams in Carbonite.
So I mean, if that's not agreat moniker, I don't know what
is, because that definitelyfits how they both sound.

Rob (14:15):
On the new material and we encourage you to check out once
again franklinsgaragetostagecomand our guest bio and pics page.
We've got their bios.
We have two videos on therethat you've got to check out.
One is called God's Eye and theother one is Spellbinder.

(14:35):
You've got to check them outbecause their videos are amazing
as well.
So please do check out thatpage and we will include their
new material as well.
We haven't done that yet, but Iwill put his new tracks on
there as well.

Dana (14:49):
Yeah, I can't talk enough about these guys and Jay's very,
very good about putting thestuff on the internet.
I mean, it's all over the place.
Of course they've got a profileon Spotify, but it does a bunch
of stuff on YouTube andFacebook and all that Very
socially interacted with whatthey do and is all over the

(15:11):
place and you've got to check itout because they're absolutely
amazing.
Um, their album, uh, the onesthat they did earlier this year,
called guy god's eye, is justhas some killer tracks on it.
You know, one of my favoriteones is called welcome to the
apocalypse.
It's an instrument.
Yeah, their version of paranoidis very sick.
I mean it's.

(15:31):
You know, at first, when youlisten to it, you can tell the
opening rhythm, and then youknow opening riffs and stuff,
and then after that they justdefinitely go their own style
and it is so fucking cool.
Yeah, you definitely got tocheck it out and you know, since
we're we're getting ready tofinish up on, you know, mr j
bell and gospels of odin, I'djust like to throw out a big

(15:53):
thank you to them for all thesupport that they show us.
I mean, you know we do this to.
You know, throw out, you know,support the bands and, you know,
try to get musicians that are,you know, just starting out and
you know we're we try to do thebig supporting role, but these
guys are really supporting ustoo and throwing us on their
links and and all the stuff knowthat that we've done for them

(16:14):
and they've done for us.
So it's you know.
I mean we're we've only beendoing this for a little bit less
than a year, just about readyto hit the one year mark
actually in our podcast.

Rob (16:22):
Yeah.

Dana (16:23):
Yeah, right around the corner.
And you know there's a lot ofmusicians out there that that
love not only what we're doing,but they'll love what they're
doing and they're supporting uslike we're supporting them.

(16:43):
It's just, you know it's allone big community and a big, you
know, family.
You know being a musician isyou know we've said this
millions of times before it'sit's you're, all the other
musicians and to you know,cooperate with each other.
It's just, you know it's a,it's an amazing little family.

(17:05):
You know, to have people dothat for each other, absolutely,
absolutely, love that, thatfeeling of camaraderie within
each other.

Rob (17:16):
Well, you know what I think this brings us to our what
moment, oh shit.
Okay, this time I'll kick it off.
Uh, this is going back way, way, way back.
Uh, I was actually in my secondband I'd ever been in uh, not
going to mention the name, butit was the second band I was
ever in and we were playing.
Uh, what for us was at the timewas a big show.

(17:38):
There was actually the countyfair, there was two and we
actually got to play on the bigstage.
It was like the middle of theafternoon, but it was still
pretty cool.
We got done with the show,which went really well, loaded
our shit up into our vehiclesand on the way out of the gate
of the fairgrounds, my fuckingcar broke down and everybody

(17:59):
else had already bailed.
So I was there by myself andended up having to walk home,
which is about a mile and a halffrom there, and I was in
spandex, belts and bandanas andall this crap.
So here I am walking down thestreet looking like this, and it
was kind of an embarrassingmoment, but that was my oh shit
moment, oh damn.

Dana (18:20):
I could just see you walking down the road in spandex
and shititting in reno duringduring that time.
Oh shit, well, my, my oh shitmoment goes back to.
It's actually in one of the fewbands I played in without my
brother.
Here is like one of the lastthings I actually, you know,
ever did.
But before we got back togetherhere, but, um, there's a band

(18:44):
called open road and I'll say itjust because these guys I don't
, I don't even know if they'reeven still around.
Um, yeah, well, it was me andthis young guitar player.
I mean, of course, I think Iwas only 26, 27 at the time, but
we had like this 16, 17 yearold guitar player, you know, out
of Carson City.
We were based out of Reno atthe time.
Then, of course, you rememberthe singer, jamie, that was the

(19:08):
yeah from Jersey, the last guy Iplayed with.
And you know we actually didthis.
One little demo tape, had likethree songs on it and I mean I
look back on it as good quality.
It's not quite the kind ofstuff that I'd like to do.
I like to do stuff a little bitharder.
But going back to when we weredoing a little demo tape, we
were in this little studio placeand I don't even remember what
the name of it was, but it's theonly time I've actually done

(19:31):
any studio work and I was kindof nervous at the time.
So, of course, what do you dowhen you get nervous?
You have a little bit to drinkand maybe a little bit to smoke.
So I kind of overdid it on thesmoking part.
Um, you know, only had a shotor two.
But then you know, I, you know I, I like my Mary Jane, so I I
puffed a little bit too much andand going into his time, of

(19:52):
course, for me to lay down somebass tracks, and I was just
fucking all over the place.
I mean I thought I was likeBilly Sheehan or Steve Harris.
You know I'm just throwingtriplets and all kinds of fast
stuff in there, trying to makethese songs liven up a little
bit more.
And I look back and when werewound the tape to listen to it

(20:12):
, it was absolute garbage.
So I was a little embarrassed.
And two hours later, when Imellowed out a little bit, we
redid it and it came out muchbetter.
When I mellowed out a littlebit, we redid it and it came out
much better.
But the oh shit part of it isknow what the hell you're doing
when it's time to do somethingprofessional and be a
professional about it.
That was probably the one andonly time I wasn't professional

(20:35):
at my craft.
I mean, when we first startedout I might not have been the
best bass player, but I gave itmy best in my all and and this
was one moment I was veryunprofessional and it just
didn't work.
And it was thank god.
It was in the studio atmosphereand, you know, not in front of
live people, because I've neverdone that.
And so people be prepared anddon't have an oh shit moment
like that so who was our uh nextguest on the recap?

Rob (21:00):
Your last.

Dana (21:03):
Yeah, the last episode we did was with this guy named
Michael Carpenter and heactually runs and operates and
owns a club called the Roosterout of Gastonia, north Carolina,
and this dude was cool as shit.
And this dude was cool as shit,you know, just to hear his

(21:23):
story of why.
Basically, you know he openedup this club and got it going
because he was tired of drivingto a big city for him in
Charlotte, an hour, two hoursaway, just to see live bands,
because you know they didn'thave any original music or
original bands or even coverbands or anything in the area
that he's from.
So he's like you know, fuckthis, fuck this, I'm gonna open

(21:44):
up my own club.
And he took it a step farther,not only just having bands come
in, but he does all originalbands, which is so cool because
that's just hard to come bynowadays.
So I'm I mean this guy and sowe're talking with him.
You definitely gotta check outthe episode, but we're talking
about him, about you know whatit takes for a band to get into

(22:06):
his venue and what they have todo, and the guy's just full of
so much good information and anyband out there that thinks that
they're ready to play and doesoriginal material.
You've got to check this guyout, especially if you're in the
North Carolina area and youknow they've got bands coming
from all over the place,especially if you're in the
North Carolina area and they'vegot bands coming from all over
the place.
They do festivals and all kindsof shows that have bands coming

(22:26):
from different parts of thecountry, so it's not just North
Carolina.
All genres, all genres.
Oh yeah, they have some rapbands, metal bands.
I mean he's done it all andhe's just so open to get local
not local but musicians that areall original just to get out
there and get heard.
So it was really cool talkingto this guy.

Rob (22:47):
Yeah, he was a really, really cool guy and once again,
he was one of those kind of guysthat says get out and support
musicians.
He's all about, even if you'rein a different band, get out and
listen to other bands and getout and support them.
And his main, what I got out ofhis advice was make sure you're
on your socials and that youupdate your socials if not daily

(23:10):
, weekly Because club ownerslike him that's kind of where
they go to see what you're allabout, and if you're not
updating your webpage orwhatever your socials are
constantly, they really don'teven want to look at you.
They want a band that's busytrying to get their popularity

(23:32):
and their crowd constantly.
So that's something that I gotfrom him.
I think it was good advice.

Dana (23:39):
Oh yeah, I mean, that was great advice.
It's like you could be thegreatest garage band in the
world, but if you don't leteverybody know and put it on
some kind of social media, youknow who the hell is going to
know.
I mean, it's like you know, andhe likes any like we were
talking about before any kind ofgenre of music.
It doesn't have to be rock ormetal, you know, but country
even folk music.

(23:59):
It doesn't have to be rock ormetal, you know, but country
even folk music.
I think they had one festivalwhere it's just all folk music
and so it's.
You know, if you're out thereand you think you're ready to
play, hit this guy up, but makesure you're ready, you know,
have your, have your shitrecorded, you know, be on social
media Even if you haven't donelive shows before show.
You know they've got to havesomething to listen to to, you

(24:23):
know.
So they know what you're allabout.
So definitely check him out.
Uh, michael Carpenter with therooster, um, great dude, and out
there to support local acts.
And it's so, so nice to havesomebody that's doing stuff for
original bands out therenowadays, because that's hard to
find.
All right, so you know.

(24:43):
One other episode we did inbetween all these guys was an
episode that you know me and Robwere actually the ones that
were being interviewed, whichwas kind of.
Which was kind of cool, youknow, because usually we're the
interviewers and this time wewere the interviewees, so we've
got an episode on there.
It's with this individualcalled Chris Robert.

(25:03):
He's the host of On StagePodcast and, like I said, you
know he talked with us about ourexperience with bands and what
we've done with music and it wasreally cool.
So, if you guys are interestedin hearing about our story,
definitely check that out.
It's actually on our websiteand all of our episodes and
stuff, so, yeah, so check thatout, it's, it's actually on our
on our website and our you know,all of all of all of our

(25:24):
episodes and stuff.
So yeah, so yeah, I'll checkthat out and yeah, I'd like to
say so I'm going to.
I'm going to end this with, youknow, saying a big thank you to
all of us of our supporters and,you know, thanks for sticking
with us.
We got tons of hits and newlisteners and stuff, even while
we were away for this briefmoment that we well, I shouldn't
say brief moment three months.
But thank you for, you know,for being there and listening

(25:48):
and you know, hopefully, youknow you'll, you'll check us out
further and you know, keepshare us with everybody that you
know.
You know, cause we'd like to,like I said, we're close to that
50,000 mark and you know we'dlove to hit a hundred thousand.
You know, and 50,000 mark andyou know we'd love to hit
100,000.
You know, in half the amount oftime it took us to get 50 and
you know, pretty soon you'll seeus on, you know, on stage.
You know, maybe doing someemceeing with some big bands and

(26:10):
you know who knows.
You know, iheartradio Festival,I mean shit, we're gonna be all
over the place.
So you know, say, you're gonnabe one of the first few
followers that we had and youknow we'll hook you up with some
cool swag or something.
But I'm going to end thisepisode with a little phrase and
something that cool I just cameup with the other day and it's
basically, you know, just talksabout how I feel about music and

(26:32):
it's uh, basically, you know,remember, if it wasn't for music
, we would all have to talk toeach other more.
You know, I'm I'm kind of anantiisocial person and not much
of a talker.
So, um, and I love listening tomusic, so you know that that's
all I got to say.

Rob (26:48):
Peace out bitches, thanks again and thank you for being
patient with us and thank youvery much.
See you guys later Later.
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