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May 19, 2025 36 mins

This week on Fresh from the Labs, Shilpa, Kevin, and Jared dive into three headline-grabbing stories, and what they mean for builders right now:

  • Klarna’s customer-support U-turn. The team dissects the "replace 700 agents with AI" experiment, why a two-humans-per-bot fallback isn’t a failure, and what sustainable AI adoption in ops should look like.

  • OpenAI’s new Healthbench. Thousands of curated physician conversations power a fresh benchmark that pushes GPT-4o and rivals toward real clinical usefulness. We unpack where the models still stumble (context seeking!), the Epic integrations everyone is watching, and why a safer WebMD can’t come soon enough.

  • Codex 1 & cloud coding agents. OpenAI plants a giant flag in the fully-agentic dev-tool space, right as rumors swirl about the Windsurf acquisition. Kevin shares war-stories from building his own open-source coding agent, and the crew debates whether verticalized startups or open-source stacks will win the long game.

Along the way you’ll hear about the perils of voice agents mispronouncing simple words, Hacker News snark, and why watching fourth-graders play Ultimate Frisbee might be the purest form of agentic chaos.

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