September 21, 2025 • 40 mins
Albanese jets to the UN chasing a Trump meeting that still isn’t locked in, fallout grows from Jimmy Kimmel’s suspension as Democrats cry America is becoming Afghanistan. Plus, new rules unveiled on Australia’s looming social media ban.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Light.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Now Frier fires up. Welcome to the program.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
Let's get into the three things that are firing me
up tonight. Firstly, our relationship with the US, I mean,
how bad.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Can it get?
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Secondly Jimmy Kimmel and the hysteria that his axing has caused.
And thirdly the hypocritical left who would have thought they
now love free speech?
Speaker 2 (00:32):
What a load of rubbish.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
But firstly, Anthony Albanesi has arrived in New York for
the UN meeting. Now, this is supposed to be the
moment of the long awaited meeting between Anthony Albanesi and
Donald Trump, but it still hasn't been locked in last week,
when Trump was berating ABC journalist John Lyons, he implied
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a meeting with Albanezi was imminent.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
My kids are running the visits, you know, at the activity.
Where are you from.
Speaker 5 (01:03):
I'm from the Australian Broadcasting Operation and Paul.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
Horn and providing the Australias. You're hurting Australia right in
my opinion, you are hurting Australia very much right.
Speaker 6 (01:11):
Now that they want to get along with me.
Speaker 7 (01:14):
You know your leader is coming over to see.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
Me very I'm going to tell them about you you
said a very bad tone.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Well, our leader is supposed to be going over to
see him, but we'll see if Trump wants to see
our leader. On Friday, Trump posted on social media that
a world leader will meet with him in the White
House next week. The only problem is it's Ertigan from Turkey.
Alban Easy's meeting with Trump, on the other hand, is still.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Not locked in.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
The best we can hope for now is a casual
pull aside on the sidelines of the UN, but it'll
be hard to get into anything substantive and certainly won't
involve a joint press conference like Kirs Starma got the
other day. Now, when we have issues as significant as
the future of all FO to discuss, this simply isn't
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good enough. Documents obtained by The Guardian found that the
last attempted meeting at the G seven was confirmed just
days before. Now Trump's playing hard to get because Albanesi
is playing hard to like.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
His priorities of the.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
UN are all wrong and will only further damage our
relationship with the US. For example, Albanisi will go to
the UN and promote Australia's work on climate change, which
the administration sees as a pointless distraction. He's holding an
event on our social media ban, which the US sees
as censorship, and he will formally recognize a Palestinian state,
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which undermines the US's efforts to end the war extraordinarily.
In an open letter, twenty five top republicans have implored
Albanesi to abandon plans to unilaterally recognize a Palestinian state.
The move, they said, sets the dangerous precedent that violence,
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not diplomacy, is the most expedient means for terrorist groups
like Hamas to achieve their political aims.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Harmas's war crimes.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Are clear, and its rejection of diplomacy should lead your
countries to impose more pressure. Instead, you offer greater rewards. Now,
labor is possessed by a trifecta of stupidity that is
pushing us further from the US. ALBANIZI won't lift defense spending,
but he will make US spend hundreds of billions of
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dollars on net zero, and he'll recognize a Palestinian state
instead of putting pressure on her Maas to do a
deal with the US. You can understand why the US
doesn't want to reward him with a meeting it's like
dealing with a toddler. Don't reward bad behavior. Albanzi has
now had four meetings with China and zero with the US,
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and I'll be surprised if he comes back with anything
more than a five minute photo wop. Our prime minister
is an embarrassment.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
Now.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
The fallout from Jimmy Kimmel getting indefinitely pulled off air
continues as democrats warn America is turning into Afghanistan.
Speaker 7 (04:21):
Authoritarian regimes, fascist regimes have to degrade our freedoms more
and more over time, until we're living the smallest, the
most frightened, the most secretive lives. Think of yourselves living
under the Taliban, because that's where we're headed.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
So I know it's scary, and I know that there's
a lot of doubt, but now is the time for
us two find.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Our heroism seriously now.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Kamala's VP candidate Tim Waltz said this was North Korean stuff.
Speaker 5 (05:12):
That's one of the most outrageous affronts on this This
is North Korea style stuff, and it's being done because
this is a weak, thin skinned man who's failing as
a president. All of the things he promised are not happening,
and this is exactly what dictators do.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Now, the other late night hosts seem more upset about
Kimmel getting acts than a father being assassinated.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
We are all Jimmy Kimmel.
Speaker 7 (05:37):
I am.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
I still have a show though, right?
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Okay, yes, you are all Jimmy Kimmel in a way
cringe unfunny leftists whose grip on cultural power is slipping.
You're also all loss making ratings, tanking, soon to be axed,
hosts that get less views than Fox. You're not a
mod at Jimmy Kimmel, You're a flop. So keep it
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up late night TV. This is one way to become
even more irrelevant.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Now, this was not an attack on freedom of speech.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
This was a commercial decision because Kimmel lied and refused
to apologize.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Here's what he said.
Speaker 8 (06:23):
We hit some new lows over the weekend with the
Magga gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered
Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and
do everything they can to score political points from it.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
A blatant lie.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
This is what the Federal Communications Commissioner said.
Speaker 9 (06:45):
Mean, Look, we can do this the easy way or
the hard way. These companies can find ways to change conduct,
to take action frankly on Kimmel, or you know, there's
gonna be additional work for the FCC. Again, there's actions
that we can take on license broadcast.
Speaker 10 (07:00):
It was appearing to directly mislead the American public about
a significant fact that probably one of the most significant
political events we've had in a long time.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
That's the problem.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
It was appearing to mislead the public about the most
significant assassination.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
In fifty years. Now, newsflash, you don't have absolute.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Freedom of speech on TV. You have to follow broadcasting standards.
Jimmy Kimmel told a verifiable lie by claiming Tyler Robinson
was a maggat Republican, and he refused to apologize. He
had the opportunity to, but he refused, and in fact,
some insiders say he wanted to double down. Canceling him
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is about maintaining the broadcasting standards that we all have
to adhere to, and the decision to pull the show
is actually part of.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
A broader shift in the industry. Kimmel's not the only
one being cut.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
Stephen Colbert's show will end next year because it's simply
become unviable. The show lost around fifty million dollars last year,
and insiders said it was on track to lose even
more of this year. Now this is so funny. The
Australian Broadcasting Corporation Our good old ABC published an article
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saying Jimmy Kimmel is the latest to be put on pause.
How Trump is influencing the world of late night TV.
Trump is not canceling these shows. Americans are switching off
these shows, the same Americans that voted for Trump, because
these shows simply don't resonate with them anymore. They have
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consistently alienated and demonized half the country that voted for Trump,
so don't be surprised when those same people don't want
to watch you anymore. In the last two years, Colbert
had one hundred and seventy six Democrats as guests and
one Republican. The Daily Show had one hundred and fifty
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seven Democrats and nine Republicans. Jimmy Kimmel had fifty seven
Democrats and just two Republicans. Kimmel made one thousand, one
hundred and twenty eight jokes targeted at President Donald Trump
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in twenty twenty five, and he made only twenty six
about Joe Biden. People just don't want this one signed
leftist propaganda anymore, and don't feel too sorry for Jimmy
and his compatriots. He's still getting paid well off air
and can relax at one of his four Californian mansions.
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I think he'll be all right.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Now.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
Kimmel's acting was a commercial decision, not a violent of
the First Amendment. But the irony of the left now
suddenly defending free speech makes for great comedy. Kamala Harris
is very concerned about kim O getting dplatformed by Disney.
She said, what we are witnessing is an outright abuse
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of power. We cannot dare to be silent or complacent
in the face of this frontal assault on free speech.
She's upset America will lose this hard hitting TV.
Speaker 6 (10:29):
I want to start with reproductive rights.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Yes, you're for them, Yes, indeed.
Speaker 6 (10:34):
Yes, I had a feeling. I knew that about you.
I learned a little bit about you beforehand. They are
being threatened, I mean not just threatened, but you know
Roe versus. Wait, we know what happened with the Supreme Court.
It is is this something that you ever imagined would
happen in your lifetime.
Speaker 11 (10:51):
Absolutely not, although I was raised to understand that the
rights that we fight for will not be permanent unless
we are visual and inciting them to continue.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
How profound.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Now she's supposedly a big defender of free speech, but
only when you agree with him. Here she was in
twenty nineteen calling for Trump's Twitter to be taken down.
Speaker 11 (11:18):
You know, I frankly think that based on this and
all we've seen him do before, including attacking members of Congress,
that he frankly should be his Twitter account should be suspended.
I think there is plenty of now evidence to suggest
that he is irresponsible with his words in a way
that could result in harm to other people, and so
the privilege of using those words in that way should
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probably be taken from him.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Hold on, So is the ability to speak aright or
is it a privilege?
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Or does it depend if you agree with them?
Speaker 3 (11:51):
Jimmy Kimmel has a right to blatantly lie, but the
former president should be banned from Twitter because his words
might cause harm?
Speaker 12 (12:00):
What a joke.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Now, when Trump got the platform, Senator Richard Bluman's Hall
was among the dozens of Democrats celebrating it. He said,
The question isn't why Facebook and Twitter acted, it's what
took so long and why haven't others. But now he
is very, very concerned about freedom of speech.
Speaker 13 (12:21):
What Donald Trump is doing through his lap dog chairman
of the FCC is essentially to pressure these big corporations
to silence any kind of criticism, any kind of sat tire,
any kind of challenge that is un American and anti democratic.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
This is the irony the left created cancel culture, and
now they've got a teeny tiny taste of it, they've
realized it's actually not very nice.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Welcome to the reality conservatives have been living for the
last decade.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
Look how you the left treated JK Rowling for defending
women's rights. She's been ostracized and publicly denounced by cast
members of Harry Potter. Dave Chappelle was almost canceled from
Netflix for making jokes about trans issues like this one.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
God forbid I ever go to jail.
Speaker 8 (13:15):
But if I do, I hope it's in California, because
as someone as the judge sends to me, I'll be
like yonder before he sends me.
Speaker 14 (13:22):
I just want the court to know them I identify
as a woman.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
He really was ahead of his time.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
And later in the show, we'll have Graham Lineman on
who created Father Ted and the ICT crowd. He was
arrested at Heathrow Airport by five armed officers overtweets about
trans issues. Where's the outcry from the great defenders of
free speech.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
On the left.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
It's just crickets. They don't really want freedom of speech,
they want freedom from constant quences. Now, Matthew Dowd, who
got sacked from MSNBC for blaming Charlie Kirk for his
own murder, is now complaining that no one's talking about him.
Speaker 15 (14:11):
All the shows are talking about how like this is
awful for America, that Jimmy Kimmel was, you know, indefinitely suspended,
and isn't this awful for America? And it's a chilling
thing for the First Amendment and all they're saying that
on every platform, not one person has said anything about me.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Not one person is saying anything about me.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
I love the left trying to out victim each other,
but what about the father who was murdered, the actual victim,
and just hours later you said he deserved it.
Speaker 15 (14:42):
Hateful thoughts lead to hateful words, which then lead to
hateful actions.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
Charlie Kirk hasn't even been buried yet, and the left
is already in the middle of their latest victim Olympics.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
It is nauseating now.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
His rhetoric and beliefs were ignorant, uneducated, and sought to
disenfranchise millions of Americans far from the working quote working
tirelessly to promote unity unquote asserted by the majority in
this resolution.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
I don't like cancel culture. I like truth culture.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
A father just got assassinated for exercising freedom of speech
and telling young people choose their professors, and the left
wing media wouldn't ever tell them. Charlie Kirk's death is
the turning point for America because finally the left is
facing consequences for their actions and the media is listening
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to their audience. You can watch live coverage of the
memorial at three point thirty am tonight, and the reader
Panicky Show is doing a special Charlie Kirk episode tomorrow
night at eleven PM. Now, we have a big show
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coming up for you tonight. Graham Linehan, the writer and
comedian arrested for tweets at Heathrow Airport, will join us
and social media Sensations, Scottish Korean and Joey Mannarino will.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Also join us Live.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
But first let's bring in tonight's panel, Federal MP Andrew
Wallace and filmmaker Alie TABRISI thank you.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
For joining me, guys, Allie, we are.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
One week on from Charlie Kirk's murder. Have you been
shocked by the reaction we've seen?
Speaker 12 (16:39):
I've been shocked. But it's also nothing new from the
radical left, where we've seen for about a decade or
more their claim to have the moral high ground on
absolutely everyone, and we've seen this clash where we've understood
that actually every position they take now is a contradiction.
We've seen say people explicitly or in a more subtle
way come out and say, well, he was homophobic, he
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deserved what he go And I'm sorry. Haven't we just
seen people, you know, for the last two years, claim
that every person that dies in Gaza is an absolute tragedy.
Yet we have polls from twenty eighteen that show that
ninety five percent of people in Gaza have homophobic views.
Now that's not to say any anything should happen to
those people because of that view, but this is just
to demonstrate the kind of the moral hypocrisy of the
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radical left. Now, I want to make one thing extremely clear.
The bullet that killed Charlie Kirk has your name on it,
and it has my name on it. The intersectional framework,
which competes victimhood one against the other, is coming for everyone.
And we've seen this rot take place inside the universities.
You know, after the death of George Floyd, we saw
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calls to defund the police, and I think it's about
time we make a similar call, but this time to
defund the universities, particularly the ones who are engaged in
this kind of radical Marxist postmodern attitude, likely to have
a lot of funding coming from Qatar, and so so
we need to address the rot taking place in the
universities if we actually want to see this problem go away.
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Whatever happens to Tyler Robinson, whether he gets the death
penalty or not, I don't think that's going to make
the problem go away. We need to address the root cause,
and until then we're going to see more of this
violence take place into the future. We already saw masses
of people come out online and it was overrepresented in
the demographic of teachers and professors at universities and schools
who are publicly celebrating this. So I'd like to see
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more attention be put there. Charlie Kirk was an incredible man.
He was a man of faith, He was a family
man and a kind of modern day apostle. He criss
crossed the country giving speeches to some. He was light
to others, he was darkness. But nevertheless, people flock to him.
And he was always willing to shake the hand of
his opponents to honor the free speech of his enemy.
And I'd like to see the conservative side hold that
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ground and so that we don't fall into the same
trap that we've seen for the last ten years coming
from the radical left, where they're willing to counsel absolutely everyone.
I was shocked to see that clip from Mark Ruffalo
saying that we're going to be living under Taliban like conditions.
What an absolute insult to everyone who's actually lived under
the Taliban system, under the Taliban regime, or under the
Islamic regime. This is absolute privilege from Hollywood actors, you know,
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part excellence. Okay, So look, there's a lot to say
on this issue. It's a tragedy, but let's make one
thing clear. There is a kind of prophecy or prophetic
nature to Charlie Kirk's death, and that his life's work
was turning point USA. But his death has been the
real turning point USA. And we've seen the US change
its course just over the last seven days.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
I could not say better myself, Ali, You've put it
so so well. And I graduated from Sydney UNI recently,
and I can tell you it's more of an indoctrination
factory than an educational institution.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
A lot of the time.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
Andrew, you're a public figure, you're a member of parliament.
Does this growing assassination culture where you can justify murdering
people purely because you have different political views, does that
concern you?
Speaker 16 (20:04):
Well, of course it does, Frail. I think every public
official around the Western world is very concerned about the
fractious nature of politics at the moment. The left is
moving further to the left, right is moving further to
the right. You know, Look, violence is never justified. Those
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people who are out there saying, well, you know, for
whatever reason they disagree with Charlie Kirk or any other
type of ideology, than the ends justifies the means. That
is absolutely abhorrent to our system, our beliefs, our values.
Here in Australia and around the Western world. I think
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we've forgotten how to debate in a civil manner and
I absolutely believe that is the case here in Australia,
not just in Australia but around the Western world. We
need to return civility to politics. In my view, we
all need to take a cold share. Our people are
entitled to their views. But you know where we're seeing
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this kind of this rank, debauched behavior that celebrates when
someone is assassinated. Just it really just defies belief.
Speaker 14 (21:21):
Makes that very sad.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Yeah, no, it does, and it's so UnAustralian, and it's
actually anti Western civilization. It's anti everything our society is
based upon, which is that you can have disagreements and
you can express them without murdering your opponents. But this
undoes all of that. Now I want to turn to
the Middle East. Now, Hamas has ominously released what it
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calls a parting image of the forty eight remaining hostages
still being held in Gaza. Now Israel is starting its
campaign on Gaza City, which is really the last stronghold
of Hamas. At the same time, twenty five top US
Republicans have written a letter to Anthony Albanesi, Mark Kenney
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from Canada and a number of other Western leaders who
want to recognize the state of Palestine, urging them not to,
saying this is actually rewarding har Maas. Allie tell us
about the hypocrisy while her Maas is releasing propaganda material
bragging about holding hostages. We've got our prime minister swaning
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off to New York to go vote to recognize a
Palestinian state.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
How does this do anyone any good?
Speaker 12 (22:39):
Look, it's an insult to common sense, is what it is.
I mean, what we're seeing is the incentivization of hostage diplomacy.
You know, in my early childhood, I grew up in
the Islamic Republic of Iran. On my first day of school,
I was made to chant death to America, death to England.
Today they would take someone like me as a hostage
to try and get billions out of Australia or the
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UK governments, which I hold passports to. What is happening
here is that Western countries who have no understanding of
how the Middle East actually work, who don't have no
idea how the Islamist ideology really works, operating as if
they're just trying to almost invite the fox into the
chicken coop. What they'll be doing by recognizing a Palestinian
state is not creating more peace, it will.
Speaker 14 (23:21):
Create more war.
Speaker 12 (23:23):
And by incentivizing hostage diplomacy, Australia is shooting itself in
the foot in more ways than one. Not only is
it cutting its ties from Israel, who offer a huge
amount of intelligence too countries like Australia to do counter terrorism.
Severing that tie, they're severing their ties to Australia and
rewarding a terrorism a terrorist organization and basically rewarding its
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actions over the last two years, which has seen both
Israeli suffer and people in guars A suffer. I came
on the show about two weeks ago and ago and
I said, look, if this is a genocide, it would
be the easiest genocide in the world to end in
five seconds flat. All they'd have to do is release
the hostel. Them waving these forty eight hostages in front
of everyone's face is an insult because it says that, hey,
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we have your nation's gripped so tightly with our ideology
that we can even wave the hostages in front of
your face if we release this is all and tomorrow,
and yet your leaders will still toe the line and
do whatever we tell them to. Okay, now we don't
know the inside scoop, but it seems like the actions
of this showing government and also France and also the UK,
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it's to the benefit of these terrorist groups and it's
not clear where their allegiance really lies.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
For sure, Well, Andrew Is, our member of Parliament, can
give us the inside scoop. Do you think Albanesi will
actually end up with a meeting with Trump at the UN?
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Is that even on the cards?
Speaker 3 (24:46):
And I guess, as I discussed in my editorial, why
would the US give Albanesi a meeting at this point
when he's betraying him on so many issues, defense, Israel, energy.
I mean, I get why we've kind of been put
in the naughty corner.
Speaker 16 (25:06):
I haven't heard heard it called that one before. Pray
a good line, but look, it's really important that our
leaders are at the Leader's Week of the UN General Assembly.
It's important that the world leaders come together at least
once a year. But you're right, Australia is in the
noughdy corner, and the US and Australia are doing this
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real sort of uneasy dance at the moment because the
letter of the twenty odd US Republicans that have come
out absolutely lambasting the Prime Minister in this labor government
for recognizing Palestine as a very good example and putting
it very clearly on the table that there will be consequences,
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or at the very least there could be consequences. The
United States is Australia's closest military ally, and Australia continues
to throw sand in the US face. The US has
been very clear in relation to defense expenditure, it expects
its allies to up the ante to pull their weight.
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NATO countries are now with the exception of one country
is now spending five percent of GDP or committed to
spending five percent of GDP on defense. We are still
stuck at two percent, and Anthony Albanezi continues to say
that only we will decide how much we get to spend.
And that's fine, we're a sovereign country. But when you
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look at people that are experts in this country, people
like Angus Houston, people like Peter Jennings, our defense experts
are saying we need to be spending at least three
to three and a half percent at least on defense,
and we are still stuck at two. So we are
throwing sand in the face of our most important ally,
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of the United States, and the US President has got
I think every justification to be pretty pretty upset with
the Australian Prime Minister as to whether they meet at
the UN General Assembly. Well, you know, your guess is
as good as mine. It'll be I'm going to make
sure I have plenty of potform on hand ready to
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watch it if it does.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Have it goodness.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
And you're right. As the world is moving towards the US,
the world is ramping up defense expenditure, Australia seems to
be going backwards towards China and not lifting defense. It's
like what planet is almin easy living on, Andrew, Just
quickly before we go, we only have a minute or
so left. New regulations came out this week about how
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the social media ban for under sixteen's would work. Now,
I know you are someone who is active behind the
scenes in the coalition pushing for this to be adopted
as policy. Have you had a chance to look over
those regulations and do you think they strike the right
balance between protecting children from social media but also protecting
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privacy the same time.
Speaker 16 (28:03):
Well, it's really important that the government gets the balance
right here, and there are means and ways of doing that.
We know that there are companies that are actually doing
this right now, companies like connect Id.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Andrew Black was on.
Speaker 16 (28:19):
Sky just a couple of weeks ago talking about how
his business is actually already providing this age assurance very
accurately without storing information. It is happening now that look
that the social media companies want people to believe that
this is all too hard, but it's all going to
be peering into people's private lives and impacting on their privacy.
(28:45):
That is not correct. We have to get the balance right.
That is absolutely right. But you know, look, if you've
transacted in real estate over the last two years, you
are giving more details of yourself to come copanies than
what we're talking about under these regulations.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
So it's possible.
Speaker 16 (29:05):
It's important. We can't let the perfect be the enemy
of the good, and we've got to ensure that we're
protecting young people's lives because it is costing lives social
media is costing lives in Australia and governments cannot sit
back and.
Speaker 4 (29:19):
Allow that to happen.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
Yeah, it's going to be interesting to watch how it evolves.
Ali Tabreezy and Andrew Wallace, thank you so.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
Much for joining me.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
Coming up after the break our panel with social media
sensations the Scottish Korean aka Ryan Williams and Joey Mannarino
don't go Anywhere. Until recently, comedy writer Graham Linehan was best.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Known as the mind behind.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
All time classics like Father Ted and The It Crowd,
one of my favorites until he started speaking out about
women's rights. Over the past few years, Lenihan has been cant,
shouted down, and kicked off career defining projects. But most
recently and most appallingly of all, he was arrested at
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Heathrow Airport by a group of.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
Armed police officers for a series.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
Of tweets, yes tweets, Joining me now to discuss how
he came to be. The man at the center of
this insane situation is comedy writer and activist Graham Lenihan.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Thank you so much for joining us.
Speaker 14 (30:31):
Hello, there, lead to be here, Graham.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
You tweeted if a trans identified male in a female
only space he is committing a violent abusive act, make
a scene, call the cops, and if all else fails,
punch him in the balls. I mean, that's pretty funny.
You are a comedian, after all. How did that hilarious
tweet land you with five armed police officers arresting you.
Speaker 14 (30:59):
Well, the person who is involved in the arrest is
someone who has recently been ramping up complaints about gender
critical people people. Sorry, I can't, by the way, I
cannot stop the steam from building up in these glasses,
so do forgive me. And he uses he's an ex policeman,
so he uses certain techniques that he knows we'll get
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a complaint through. Like, for instance, my complaint on another
matter was initially dropped and then picked up when he
threatened a judicial review, and the police are terrified of
judicial reviews, so they picked it up again. So you know,
this is just one of the techniques that transactivists use.
They find these kind of weaknesses in the system, in
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this case, the British police's tendency to think of anyone
who makes a complaint as the victim.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
And.
Speaker 14 (31:51):
You know they use that to shut up women and
gender critical people men like me, you know, so I
sort of expecting something like this at some point, especially
when I was just about to leave the UK, I
had a growing sense of unease because they seem to
be ramping up the harassment. So it wasn't as big
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a surprise as it should have been, really, but I'm
glad it happened, you know, because the great thing about
the trans movement is that they always overreach, you know,
they always do something that just reveals who they are. Really.
They're not of this terribly vulnerable group that needs protection
but in some cases rare, but they do need to
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be addressed, extremely dangerous men who the police should be
looking up instead of, you know, they're victims.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
One hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
In this past week, it's been pretty ironic because we've
seen the left in total meltdown about Jimmy Kimmel being
indefinitely taken off air.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
But meanwhile, for.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
Years, activists, comedians like yourself, who has been pushing back
against the left agenda. You've been canceled, you've been deplatformed.
I'm sure you've lost work because of your stances. Yet
I don't hear any of these leftists who are suddenly
great defenders of freedom of speech coming out to defend you.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
And do you see the hypocrisy in that?
Speaker 14 (33:22):
Oh yeah? And you know, for the left to suddenly
mobilize after ten days after Charlie Kirk was murdered, simply
because he trusted people too much and he believed in
dialogue too much for them to suddenly go on the
warpath about Jimmy Kimmel, who lied about the shooter on
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an FCC channel. You know, I'm not excusing the Trump
administration stepping in, but he did lie about the shooter
on an FCC channel or a channel, and there are
rules about that, you know, But the it's just lou
It's ludicrous. I mean, today, I feel very guilty and
sad that I'm actually not in Phoenix at the moment
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to go to the funeral because we were almost neighbors,
Charlie Kirk and I and I really feel terrible that
I'm not going to pay my respects because I think
not only was like we would disagree on so many things,
including abortion rights and other things, but my god, was
he a model on how to comport yourself, on how
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to debate, and how to speak to people and he
was shut in a neck in front of a crowd
of college students, and all the left can think about
is Jimmy Kimmel. It's absolutely astonishing to me, truly.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
Well, here in Australia, another thing that's astonishing is the
state of gender affirming care, as the activists like to
call it. So we've had one state, which is Queensland,
put a pause on prescribing puberty blockers to minors. The
federal govern moment is undertaking a review, but we're not
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going to see any results of that until mid next year.
What's your message to Australia about how we should be
better protecting young people right now?
Speaker 14 (35:17):
Well, you know, all the original countries that started these
protocols have have reversed or or or backtracked on that,
the Dutch Protocol and all these things. They no longer
believe that affirmation is scientifically proven. And the reason that
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that it's been going on so long is because the
person the group that make up the rules for trans
healthcare what is ludicrously called trans healthcare, it's a group
of lunatics in an organization called Wpath and everybody thought
they were telling the truth about these about these procedures,
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and they weren't. They were just pushing an ideological line.
And even more frightening of all, the website Wpath linked
to a pornographic website about castration. These are the lunatics
who have been putting children on a kind of disassembly
line for the last ten years. And what I find
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most upsetting about it is that even now we've proved
to be right, even now things like the cast report
and the Wpath file has been released, you still get
people like Gillian Spencer, who is losing her job as
a nurse. The same way in the UK, transactivists are
going after nurses like Sandy Peggy and the Darlington nurses.
These are people whose job it is is to know
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what biology is, to know what the truth of biology is,
and they're all losing their jobs, you know. And I
feel like it would be great if Australia rallied around
Jillian and you know, protected her from these attempts to
cast her safeguarding advice as evil somehow, you know. So yeah,
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to protect that whistleblowers is what I'd say. They're still isolated,
they're still getting fired. You know, they need.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
You one hundred percent and ultimately just stand up for
the truth. If Charlie Kirk taught us anything it's that
if you stand up for the truth and you act
bravely and courageously, the impact you'll leave on the world
is immense. And that's what you've done and you're continuing
to do. And we salute you for that, Graham, And
just know so many of us here in Australia stand
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with you, and we hope that you win in this
fight and that all young people win and are protected
from this dangerous ideology.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
Thank you so much, Graham.
Speaker 14 (37:42):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
Well, now it's time for my fruitcakes.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
Meet Democrat Congressman from Texas Jasmine Crockett. She's in AOC
Bernie Sanders hard left progressive type. She's also the an
endless source of extremely stupid comments. According to Jasmine Crockett,
the real reason black people aren't voting for the Republicans
is because they don't want to hang out with the KKK.
Speaker 17 (38:10):
I talked to black folk all the time as somebody
who's a child of a preacher. Listen, most black people
are not Republicans simply because we just as like y'all racist.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
I can't hang out with the KKK and m that's
really what it is.
Speaker 17 (38:22):
But when we think about who we are as black
people and we think about where we come from, most
black people have very conservative values, right but the reality
is that, like we just can't side with like the
neo Nazis and nim We're not dealing with y'all like
that right.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
Now.
Speaker 3 (38:39):
This is extremely ironic because it was actually the Democrats
in the South that supported segregation and the Jim Crow laws.
But somehow it's the Republicans that are the racist ones.
Clearly someone doesn't know her history.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
Now.
Speaker 3 (38:53):
Our most recent contribution is this insightful comment because apparently
if you commit a crime, it doesn't actually make your
criminal good.
Speaker 18 (39:02):
What was kind of pushing them there? And so I
do want people to know that just because someone has
committed a crime, it doesn't make them a criminal. That
that is completely different. Being a criminal is more so
about your mindset. Committing a crime can come for a
lot of different reasons.
Speaker 3 (39:22):
What it's not your mindset, it's the fact that you
committed a crime. That is the dictionary definition of what
makes you a criminal. First, they change the definition of
a woman to anyone who identifies as one. Now a
criminal will be anyone who has the criminal mindset? Well,
how would that stand up in court? You're hona, Sorry,
(39:43):
I may have committed a crime, but I don't identify
as a criminal. How stupid. Well that's all the time
I have for you tonight. Stay tuned up. Next is
Danika and James and don't forget From three point thirty
am tonight Sydney Time, we're going to have rolling coverage
of Charlie Kirk's memorial here on Sky News. The memorial
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itself kicks off at four am. There'll be a replay
later on in the day and then tomorrow night on
the Rita Panahy Show there'll be a special episode to
honor Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 2 (40:18):
That's at eleven pm. You can catch me on the
Late Debate tomorrow night at ten pm. Stay tuned up.
Next is Denniker and James.
Light.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Now Frier fires up. Welcome to the program.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
Let's get into the three things that are firing me
up tonight. Firstly, our relationship with the US, I mean,
how bad.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Can it get?
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Secondly Jimmy Kimmel and the hysteria that his axing has caused.
And thirdly the hypocritical left who would have thought they
now love free speech?
Speaker 2 (00:32):
What a load of rubbish.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
But firstly, Anthony Albanesi has arrived in New York for
the UN meeting. Now, this is supposed to be the
moment of the long awaited meeting between Anthony Albanesi and
Donald Trump, but it still hasn't been locked in last week,
when Trump was berating ABC journalist John Lyons, he implied
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a meeting with Albanezi was imminent.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
My kids are running the visits, you know, at the activity.
Where are you from.
Speaker 5 (01:03):
I'm from the Australian Broadcasting Operation and Paul.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
Horn and providing the Australias. You're hurting Australia right in
my opinion, you are hurting Australia very much right.
Speaker 6 (01:11):
Now that they want to get along with me.
Speaker 7 (01:14):
You know your leader is coming over to see.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
Me very I'm going to tell them about you you
said a very bad tone.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Well, our leader is supposed to be going over to
see him, but we'll see if Trump wants to see
our leader. On Friday, Trump posted on social media that
a world leader will meet with him in the White
House next week. The only problem is it's Ertigan from Turkey.
Alban Easy's meeting with Trump, on the other hand, is still.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Not locked in.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
The best we can hope for now is a casual
pull aside on the sidelines of the UN, but it'll
be hard to get into anything substantive and certainly won't
involve a joint press conference like Kirs Starma got the
other day. Now, when we have issues as significant as
the future of all FO to discuss, this simply isn't
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good enough. Documents obtained by The Guardian found that the
last attempted meeting at the G seven was confirmed just
days before. Now Trump's playing hard to get because Albanesi
is playing hard to like.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
His priorities of the.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
UN are all wrong and will only further damage our
relationship with the US. For example, Albanisi will go to
the UN and promote Australia's work on climate change, which
the administration sees as a pointless distraction. He's holding an
event on our social media ban, which the US sees
as censorship, and he will formally recognize a Palestinian state,
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which undermines the US's efforts to end the war extraordinarily.
In an open letter, twenty five top republicans have implored
Albanesi to abandon plans to unilaterally recognize a Palestinian state.
The move, they said, sets the dangerous precedent that violence,
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not diplomacy, is the most expedient means for terrorist groups
like Hamas to achieve their political aims.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Harmas's war crimes.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Are clear, and its rejection of diplomacy should lead your
countries to impose more pressure. Instead, you offer greater rewards. Now,
labor is possessed by a trifecta of stupidity that is
pushing us further from the US. ALBANIZI won't lift defense spending,
but he will make US spend hundreds of billions of
(03:37):
dollars on net zero, and he'll recognize a Palestinian state
instead of putting pressure on her Maas to do a
deal with the US. You can understand why the US
doesn't want to reward him with a meeting it's like
dealing with a toddler. Don't reward bad behavior. Albanzi has
now had four meetings with China and zero with the US,
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and I'll be surprised if he comes back with anything
more than a five minute photo wop. Our prime minister
is an embarrassment.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
Now.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
The fallout from Jimmy Kimmel getting indefinitely pulled off air
continues as democrats warn America is turning into Afghanistan.
Speaker 7 (04:21):
Authoritarian regimes, fascist regimes have to degrade our freedoms more
and more over time, until we're living the smallest, the
most frightened, the most secretive lives. Think of yourselves living
under the Taliban, because that's where we're headed.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
So I know it's scary, and I know that there's
a lot of doubt, but now is the time for
us two find.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Our heroism seriously now.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Kamala's VP candidate Tim Waltz said this was North Korean stuff.
Speaker 5 (05:12):
That's one of the most outrageous affronts on this This
is North Korea style stuff, and it's being done because
this is a weak, thin skinned man who's failing as
a president. All of the things he promised are not happening,
and this is exactly what dictators do.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Now, the other late night hosts seem more upset about
Kimmel getting acts than a father being assassinated.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
We are all Jimmy Kimmel.
Speaker 7 (05:37):
I am.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
I still have a show though, right?
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Okay, yes, you are all Jimmy Kimmel in a way
cringe unfunny leftists whose grip on cultural power is slipping.
You're also all loss making ratings, tanking, soon to be axed,
hosts that get less views than Fox. You're not a
mod at Jimmy Kimmel, You're a flop. So keep it
(06:05):
up late night TV. This is one way to become
even more irrelevant.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Now, this was not an attack on freedom of speech.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
This was a commercial decision because Kimmel lied and refused
to apologize.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Here's what he said.
Speaker 8 (06:23):
We hit some new lows over the weekend with the
Magga gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered
Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and
do everything they can to score political points from it.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
A blatant lie.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
This is what the Federal Communications Commissioner said.
Speaker 9 (06:45):
Mean, Look, we can do this the easy way or
the hard way. These companies can find ways to change conduct,
to take action frankly on Kimmel, or you know, there's
gonna be additional work for the FCC. Again, there's actions
that we can take on license broadcast.
Speaker 10 (07:00):
It was appearing to directly mislead the American public about
a significant fact that probably one of the most significant
political events we've had in a long time.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
That's the problem.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
It was appearing to mislead the public about the most
significant assassination.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
In fifty years. Now, newsflash, you don't have absolute.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Freedom of speech on TV. You have to follow broadcasting standards.
Jimmy Kimmel told a verifiable lie by claiming Tyler Robinson
was a maggat Republican, and he refused to apologize. He
had the opportunity to, but he refused, and in fact,
some insiders say he wanted to double down. Canceling him
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is about maintaining the broadcasting standards that we all have
to adhere to, and the decision to pull the show
is actually part of.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
A broader shift in the industry. Kimmel's not the only
one being cut.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
Stephen Colbert's show will end next year because it's simply
become unviable. The show lost around fifty million dollars last year,
and insiders said it was on track to lose even
more of this year. Now this is so funny. The
Australian Broadcasting Corporation Our good old ABC published an article
(08:22):
saying Jimmy Kimmel is the latest to be put on pause.
How Trump is influencing the world of late night TV.
Trump is not canceling these shows. Americans are switching off
these shows, the same Americans that voted for Trump, because
these shows simply don't resonate with them anymore. They have
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consistently alienated and demonized half the country that voted for Trump,
so don't be surprised when those same people don't want
to watch you anymore. In the last two years, Colbert
had one hundred and seventy six Democrats as guests and
one Republican. The Daily Show had one hundred and fifty
(09:09):
seven Democrats and nine Republicans. Jimmy Kimmel had fifty seven
Democrats and just two Republicans. Kimmel made one thousand, one
hundred and twenty eight jokes targeted at President Donald Trump
(09:29):
in twenty twenty five, and he made only twenty six
about Joe Biden. People just don't want this one signed
leftist propaganda anymore, and don't feel too sorry for Jimmy
and his compatriots. He's still getting paid well off air
and can relax at one of his four Californian mansions.
(09:53):
I think he'll be all right.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Now.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
Kimmel's acting was a commercial decision, not a violent of
the First Amendment. But the irony of the left now
suddenly defending free speech makes for great comedy. Kamala Harris
is very concerned about kim O getting dplatformed by Disney.
She said, what we are witnessing is an outright abuse
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of power. We cannot dare to be silent or complacent
in the face of this frontal assault on free speech.
She's upset America will lose this hard hitting TV.
Speaker 6 (10:29):
I want to start with reproductive rights.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Yes, you're for them, Yes, indeed.
Speaker 6 (10:34):
Yes, I had a feeling. I knew that about you.
I learned a little bit about you beforehand. They are
being threatened, I mean not just threatened, but you know
Roe versus. Wait, we know what happened with the Supreme Court.
It is is this something that you ever imagined would
happen in your lifetime.
Speaker 11 (10:51):
Absolutely not, although I was raised to understand that the
rights that we fight for will not be permanent unless
we are visual and inciting them to continue.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
How profound.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Now she's supposedly a big defender of free speech, but
only when you agree with him. Here she was in
twenty nineteen calling for Trump's Twitter to be taken down.
Speaker 11 (11:18):
You know, I frankly think that based on this and
all we've seen him do before, including attacking members of Congress,
that he frankly should be his Twitter account should be suspended.
I think there is plenty of now evidence to suggest
that he is irresponsible with his words in a way
that could result in harm to other people, and so
the privilege of using those words in that way should
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probably be taken from him.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Hold on, So is the ability to speak aright or
is it a privilege?
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Or does it depend if you agree with them?
Speaker 3 (11:51):
Jimmy Kimmel has a right to blatantly lie, but the
former president should be banned from Twitter because his words
might cause harm?
Speaker 12 (12:00):
What a joke.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Now, when Trump got the platform, Senator Richard Bluman's Hall
was among the dozens of Democrats celebrating it. He said,
The question isn't why Facebook and Twitter acted, it's what
took so long and why haven't others. But now he
is very, very concerned about freedom of speech.
Speaker 13 (12:21):
What Donald Trump is doing through his lap dog chairman
of the FCC is essentially to pressure these big corporations
to silence any kind of criticism, any kind of sat tire,
any kind of challenge that is un American and anti democratic.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
This is the irony the left created cancel culture, and
now they've got a teeny tiny taste of it, they've
realized it's actually not very nice.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Welcome to the reality conservatives have been living for the
last decade.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
Look how you the left treated JK Rowling for defending
women's rights. She's been ostracized and publicly denounced by cast
members of Harry Potter. Dave Chappelle was almost canceled from
Netflix for making jokes about trans issues like this one.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
God forbid I ever go to jail.
Speaker 8 (13:15):
But if I do, I hope it's in California, because
as someone as the judge sends to me, I'll be
like yonder before he sends me.
Speaker 14 (13:22):
I just want the court to know them I identify
as a woman.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
He really was ahead of his time.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
And later in the show, we'll have Graham Lineman on
who created Father Ted and the ICT crowd. He was
arrested at Heathrow Airport by five armed officers overtweets about
trans issues. Where's the outcry from the great defenders of
free speech.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
On the left.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
It's just crickets. They don't really want freedom of speech,
they want freedom from constant quences. Now, Matthew Dowd, who
got sacked from MSNBC for blaming Charlie Kirk for his
own murder, is now complaining that no one's talking about him.
Speaker 15 (14:11):
All the shows are talking about how like this is
awful for America, that Jimmy Kimmel was, you know, indefinitely suspended,
and isn't this awful for America? And it's a chilling
thing for the First Amendment and all they're saying that
on every platform, not one person has said anything about me.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Not one person is saying anything about me.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
I love the left trying to out victim each other,
but what about the father who was murdered, the actual victim,
and just hours later you said he deserved it.
Speaker 15 (14:42):
Hateful thoughts lead to hateful words, which then lead to
hateful actions.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
Charlie Kirk hasn't even been buried yet, and the left
is already in the middle of their latest victim Olympics.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
It is nauseating now.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
His rhetoric and beliefs were ignorant, uneducated, and sought to
disenfranchise millions of Americans far from the working quote working
tirelessly to promote unity unquote asserted by the majority in
this resolution.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
I don't like cancel culture. I like truth culture.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
A father just got assassinated for exercising freedom of speech
and telling young people choose their professors, and the left
wing media wouldn't ever tell them. Charlie Kirk's death is
the turning point for America because finally the left is
facing consequences for their actions and the media is listening
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to their audience. You can watch live coverage of the
memorial at three point thirty am tonight, and the reader
Panicky Show is doing a special Charlie Kirk episode tomorrow
night at eleven PM. Now, we have a big show
(16:04):
coming up for you tonight. Graham Linehan, the writer and
comedian arrested for tweets at Heathrow Airport, will join us
and social media Sensations, Scottish Korean and Joey Mannarino will.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Also join us Live.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
But first let's bring in tonight's panel, Federal MP Andrew
Wallace and filmmaker Alie TABRISI thank you.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
For joining me, guys, Allie, we are.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
One week on from Charlie Kirk's murder. Have you been
shocked by the reaction we've seen?
Speaker 12 (16:39):
I've been shocked. But it's also nothing new from the
radical left, where we've seen for about a decade or
more their claim to have the moral high ground on
absolutely everyone, and we've seen this clash where we've understood
that actually every position they take now is a contradiction.
We've seen say people explicitly or in a more subtle
way come out and say, well, he was homophobic, he
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deserved what he go And I'm sorry. Haven't we just
seen people, you know, for the last two years, claim
that every person that dies in Gaza is an absolute tragedy.
Yet we have polls from twenty eighteen that show that
ninety five percent of people in Gaza have homophobic views.
Now that's not to say any anything should happen to
those people because of that view, but this is just
to demonstrate the kind of the moral hypocrisy of the
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radical left. Now, I want to make one thing extremely clear.
The bullet that killed Charlie Kirk has your name on it,
and it has my name on it. The intersectional framework,
which competes victimhood one against the other, is coming for everyone.
And we've seen this rot take place inside the universities.
You know, after the death of George Floyd, we saw
(17:43):
calls to defund the police, and I think it's about
time we make a similar call, but this time to
defund the universities, particularly the ones who are engaged in
this kind of radical Marxist postmodern attitude, likely to have
a lot of funding coming from Qatar, and so so
we need to address the rot taking place in the
universities if we actually want to see this problem go away.
(18:05):
Whatever happens to Tyler Robinson, whether he gets the death
penalty or not, I don't think that's going to make
the problem go away. We need to address the root cause,
and until then we're going to see more of this
violence take place into the future. We already saw masses
of people come out online and it was overrepresented in
the demographic of teachers and professors at universities and schools
who are publicly celebrating this. So I'd like to see
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more attention be put there. Charlie Kirk was an incredible man.
He was a man of faith, He was a family
man and a kind of modern day apostle. He criss
crossed the country giving speeches to some. He was light
to others, he was darkness. But nevertheless, people flock to him.
And he was always willing to shake the hand of
his opponents to honor the free speech of his enemy.
And I'd like to see the conservative side hold that
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ground and so that we don't fall into the same
trap that we've seen for the last ten years coming
from the radical left, where they're willing to counsel absolutely everyone.
I was shocked to see that clip from Mark Ruffalo
saying that we're going to be living under Taliban like conditions.
What an absolute insult to everyone who's actually lived under
the Taliban system, under the Taliban regime, or under the
Islamic regime. This is absolute privilege from Hollywood actors, you know,
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part excellence. Okay, So look, there's a lot to say
on this issue. It's a tragedy, but let's make one
thing clear. There is a kind of prophecy or prophetic
nature to Charlie Kirk's death, and that his life's work
was turning point USA. But his death has been the
real turning point USA. And we've seen the US change
its course just over the last seven days.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
I could not say better myself, Ali, You've put it
so so well. And I graduated from Sydney UNI recently,
and I can tell you it's more of an indoctrination
factory than an educational institution.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
A lot of the time.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
Andrew, you're a public figure, you're a member of parliament.
Does this growing assassination culture where you can justify murdering
people purely because you have different political views, does that
concern you?
Speaker 16 (20:04):
Well, of course it does, Frail. I think every public
official around the Western world is very concerned about the
fractious nature of politics at the moment. The left is
moving further to the left, right is moving further to
the right. You know, Look, violence is never justified. Those
(20:24):
people who are out there saying, well, you know, for
whatever reason they disagree with Charlie Kirk or any other
type of ideology, than the ends justifies the means. That
is absolutely abhorrent to our system, our beliefs, our values.
Here in Australia and around the Western world. I think
(20:45):
we've forgotten how to debate in a civil manner and
I absolutely believe that is the case here in Australia,
not just in Australia but around the Western world. We
need to return civility to politics. In my view, we
all need to take a cold share. Our people are
entitled to their views. But you know where we're seeing
(21:09):
this kind of this rank, debauched behavior that celebrates when
someone is assassinated. Just it really just defies belief.
Speaker 14 (21:21):
Makes that very sad.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Yeah, no, it does, and it's so UnAustralian, and it's
actually anti Western civilization. It's anti everything our society is
based upon, which is that you can have disagreements and
you can express them without murdering your opponents. But this
undoes all of that. Now I want to turn to
the Middle East. Now, Hamas has ominously released what it
(21:45):
calls a parting image of the forty eight remaining hostages
still being held in Gaza. Now Israel is starting its
campaign on Gaza City, which is really the last stronghold
of Hamas. At the same time, twenty five top US
Republicans have written a letter to Anthony Albanesi, Mark Kenney
(22:08):
from Canada and a number of other Western leaders who
want to recognize the state of Palestine, urging them not to,
saying this is actually rewarding har Maas. Allie tell us
about the hypocrisy while her Maas is releasing propaganda material
bragging about holding hostages. We've got our prime minister swaning
(22:29):
off to New York to go vote to recognize a
Palestinian state.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
How does this do anyone any good?
Speaker 12 (22:39):
Look, it's an insult to common sense, is what it is.
I mean, what we're seeing is the incentivization of hostage diplomacy.
You know, in my early childhood, I grew up in
the Islamic Republic of Iran. On my first day of school,
I was made to chant death to America, death to England.
Today they would take someone like me as a hostage
to try and get billions out of Australia or the
(23:00):
UK governments, which I hold passports to. What is happening
here is that Western countries who have no understanding of
how the Middle East actually work, who don't have no
idea how the Islamist ideology really works, operating as if
they're just trying to almost invite the fox into the
chicken coop. What they'll be doing by recognizing a Palestinian
state is not creating more peace, it will.
Speaker 14 (23:21):
Create more war.
Speaker 12 (23:23):
And by incentivizing hostage diplomacy, Australia is shooting itself in
the foot in more ways than one. Not only is
it cutting its ties from Israel, who offer a huge
amount of intelligence too countries like Australia to do counter terrorism.
Severing that tie, they're severing their ties to Australia and
rewarding a terrorism a terrorist organization and basically rewarding its
(23:45):
actions over the last two years, which has seen both
Israeli suffer and people in guars A suffer. I came
on the show about two weeks ago and ago and
I said, look, if this is a genocide, it would
be the easiest genocide in the world to end in
five seconds flat. All they'd have to do is release
the hostel. Them waving these forty eight hostages in front
of everyone's face is an insult because it says that, hey,
(24:07):
we have your nation's gripped so tightly with our ideology
that we can even wave the hostages in front of
your face if we release this is all and tomorrow,
and yet your leaders will still toe the line and
do whatever we tell them to. Okay, now we don't
know the inside scoop, but it seems like the actions
of this showing government and also France and also the UK,
(24:29):
it's to the benefit of these terrorist groups and it's
not clear where their allegiance really lies.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
For sure, Well, Andrew Is, our member of Parliament, can
give us the inside scoop. Do you think Albanesi will
actually end up with a meeting with Trump at the UN?
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Is that even on the cards?
Speaker 3 (24:46):
And I guess, as I discussed in my editorial, why
would the US give Albanesi a meeting at this point
when he's betraying him on so many issues, defense, Israel, energy.
I mean, I get why we've kind of been put
in the naughty corner.
Speaker 16 (25:06):
I haven't heard heard it called that one before. Pray
a good line, but look, it's really important that our
leaders are at the Leader's Week of the UN General Assembly.
It's important that the world leaders come together at least
once a year. But you're right, Australia is in the
noughdy corner, and the US and Australia are doing this
(25:28):
real sort of uneasy dance at the moment because the
letter of the twenty odd US Republicans that have come
out absolutely lambasting the Prime Minister in this labor government
for recognizing Palestine as a very good example and putting
it very clearly on the table that there will be consequences,
(25:49):
or at the very least there could be consequences. The
United States is Australia's closest military ally, and Australia continues
to throw sand in the US face. The US has
been very clear in relation to defense expenditure, it expects
its allies to up the ante to pull their weight.
(26:09):
NATO countries are now with the exception of one country
is now spending five percent of GDP or committed to
spending five percent of GDP on defense. We are still
stuck at two percent, and Anthony Albanezi continues to say
that only we will decide how much we get to spend.
And that's fine, we're a sovereign country. But when you
(26:29):
look at people that are experts in this country, people
like Angus Houston, people like Peter Jennings, our defense experts
are saying we need to be spending at least three
to three and a half percent at least on defense,
and we are still stuck at two. So we are
throwing sand in the face of our most important ally,
(26:52):
of the United States, and the US President has got
I think every justification to be pretty pretty upset with
the Australian Prime Minister as to whether they meet at
the UN General Assembly. Well, you know, your guess is
as good as mine. It'll be I'm going to make
sure I have plenty of potform on hand ready to
(27:13):
watch it if it does.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Have it goodness.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
And you're right. As the world is moving towards the US,
the world is ramping up defense expenditure, Australia seems to
be going backwards towards China and not lifting defense. It's
like what planet is almin easy living on, Andrew, Just
quickly before we go, we only have a minute or
so left. New regulations came out this week about how
(27:36):
the social media ban for under sixteen's would work. Now,
I know you are someone who is active behind the
scenes in the coalition pushing for this to be adopted
as policy. Have you had a chance to look over
those regulations and do you think they strike the right
balance between protecting children from social media but also protecting
(27:59):
privacy the same time.
Speaker 16 (28:03):
Well, it's really important that the government gets the balance
right here, and there are means and ways of doing that.
We know that there are companies that are actually doing
this right now, companies like connect Id.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Andrew Black was on.
Speaker 16 (28:19):
Sky just a couple of weeks ago talking about how
his business is actually already providing this age assurance very
accurately without storing information. It is happening now that look
that the social media companies want people to believe that
this is all too hard, but it's all going to
be peering into people's private lives and impacting on their privacy.
(28:45):
That is not correct. We have to get the balance right.
That is absolutely right. But you know, look, if you've
transacted in real estate over the last two years, you
are giving more details of yourself to come copanies than
what we're talking about under these regulations.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
So it's possible.
Speaker 16 (29:05):
It's important. We can't let the perfect be the enemy
of the good, and we've got to ensure that we're
protecting young people's lives because it is costing lives social
media is costing lives in Australia and governments cannot sit
back and.
Speaker 4 (29:19):
Allow that to happen.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
Yeah, it's going to be interesting to watch how it evolves.
Ali Tabreezy and Andrew Wallace, thank you so.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
Much for joining me.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
Coming up after the break our panel with social media
sensations the Scottish Korean aka Ryan Williams and Joey Mannarino
don't go Anywhere. Until recently, comedy writer Graham Linehan was best.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Known as the mind behind.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
All time classics like Father Ted and The It Crowd,
one of my favorites until he started speaking out about
women's rights. Over the past few years, Lenihan has been cant,
shouted down, and kicked off career defining projects. But most
recently and most appallingly of all, he was arrested at
(30:10):
Heathrow Airport by a group of.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
Armed police officers for a series.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
Of tweets, yes tweets, Joining me now to discuss how
he came to be. The man at the center of
this insane situation is comedy writer and activist Graham Lenihan.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Thank you so much for joining us.
Speaker 14 (30:31):
Hello, there, lead to be here, Graham.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
You tweeted if a trans identified male in a female
only space he is committing a violent abusive act, make
a scene, call the cops, and if all else fails,
punch him in the balls. I mean, that's pretty funny.
You are a comedian, after all. How did that hilarious
tweet land you with five armed police officers arresting you.
Speaker 14 (30:59):
Well, the person who is involved in the arrest is
someone who has recently been ramping up complaints about gender
critical people people. Sorry, I can't, by the way, I
cannot stop the steam from building up in these glasses,
so do forgive me. And he uses he's an ex policeman,
so he uses certain techniques that he knows we'll get
(31:21):
a complaint through. Like, for instance, my complaint on another
matter was initially dropped and then picked up when he
threatened a judicial review, and the police are terrified of
judicial reviews, so they picked it up again. So you know,
this is just one of the techniques that transactivists use.
They find these kind of weaknesses in the system, in
(31:43):
this case, the British police's tendency to think of anyone
who makes a complaint as the victim.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
And.
Speaker 14 (31:51):
You know they use that to shut up women and
gender critical people men like me, you know, so I
sort of expecting something like this at some point, especially
when I was just about to leave the UK, I
had a growing sense of unease because they seem to
be ramping up the harassment. So it wasn't as big
(32:14):
a surprise as it should have been, really, but I'm
glad it happened, you know, because the great thing about
the trans movement is that they always overreach, you know,
they always do something that just reveals who they are. Really.
They're not of this terribly vulnerable group that needs protection
but in some cases rare, but they do need to
(32:37):
be addressed, extremely dangerous men who the police should be
looking up instead of, you know, they're victims.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
One hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
In this past week, it's been pretty ironic because we've
seen the left in total meltdown about Jimmy Kimmel being
indefinitely taken off air.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
But meanwhile, for.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
Years, activists, comedians like yourself, who has been pushing back
against the left agenda. You've been canceled, you've been deplatformed.
I'm sure you've lost work because of your stances. Yet
I don't hear any of these leftists who are suddenly
great defenders of freedom of speech coming out to defend you.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
And do you see the hypocrisy in that?
Speaker 14 (33:22):
Oh yeah? And you know, for the left to suddenly
mobilize after ten days after Charlie Kirk was murdered, simply
because he trusted people too much and he believed in
dialogue too much for them to suddenly go on the
warpath about Jimmy Kimmel, who lied about the shooter on
(33:46):
an FCC channel. You know, I'm not excusing the Trump
administration stepping in, but he did lie about the shooter
on an FCC channel or a channel, and there are
rules about that, you know, But the it's just lou
It's ludicrous. I mean, today, I feel very guilty and
sad that I'm actually not in Phoenix at the moment
(34:08):
to go to the funeral because we were almost neighbors,
Charlie Kirk and I and I really feel terrible that
I'm not going to pay my respects because I think
not only was like we would disagree on so many things,
including abortion rights and other things, but my god, was
he a model on how to comport yourself, on how
(34:30):
to debate, and how to speak to people and he
was shut in a neck in front of a crowd
of college students, and all the left can think about
is Jimmy Kimmel. It's absolutely astonishing to me, truly.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
Well, here in Australia, another thing that's astonishing is the
state of gender affirming care, as the activists like to
call it. So we've had one state, which is Queensland,
put a pause on prescribing puberty blockers to minors. The
federal govern moment is undertaking a review, but we're not
(35:02):
going to see any results of that until mid next year.
What's your message to Australia about how we should be
better protecting young people right now?
Speaker 14 (35:17):
Well, you know, all the original countries that started these
protocols have have reversed or or or backtracked on that,
the Dutch Protocol and all these things. They no longer
believe that affirmation is scientifically proven. And the reason that
(35:38):
that it's been going on so long is because the
person the group that make up the rules for trans
healthcare what is ludicrously called trans healthcare, it's a group
of lunatics in an organization called Wpath and everybody thought
they were telling the truth about these about these procedures,
(35:59):
and they weren't. They were just pushing an ideological line.
And even more frightening of all, the website Wpath linked
to a pornographic website about castration. These are the lunatics
who have been putting children on a kind of disassembly
line for the last ten years. And what I find
(36:20):
most upsetting about it is that even now we've proved
to be right, even now things like the cast report
and the Wpath file has been released, you still get
people like Gillian Spencer, who is losing her job as
a nurse. The same way in the UK, transactivists are
going after nurses like Sandy Peggy and the Darlington nurses.
These are people whose job it is is to know
(36:40):
what biology is, to know what the truth of biology is,
and they're all losing their jobs, you know. And I
feel like it would be great if Australia rallied around
Jillian and you know, protected her from these attempts to
cast her safeguarding advice as evil somehow, you know. So yeah,
(37:03):
to protect that whistleblowers is what I'd say. They're still isolated,
they're still getting fired. You know, they need.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
You one hundred percent and ultimately just stand up for
the truth. If Charlie Kirk taught us anything it's that
if you stand up for the truth and you act
bravely and courageously, the impact you'll leave on the world
is immense. And that's what you've done and you're continuing
to do. And we salute you for that, Graham, And
just know so many of us here in Australia stand
(37:33):
with you, and we hope that you win in this
fight and that all young people win and are protected
from this dangerous ideology.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
Thank you so much, Graham.
Speaker 14 (37:42):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
Well, now it's time for my fruitcakes.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
Meet Democrat Congressman from Texas Jasmine Crockett. She's in AOC
Bernie Sanders hard left progressive type. She's also the an
endless source of extremely stupid comments. According to Jasmine Crockett,
the real reason black people aren't voting for the Republicans
is because they don't want to hang out with the KKK.
Speaker 17 (38:10):
I talked to black folk all the time as somebody
who's a child of a preacher. Listen, most black people
are not Republicans simply because we just as like y'all racist.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
I can't hang out with the KKK and m that's
really what it is.
Speaker 17 (38:22):
But when we think about who we are as black
people and we think about where we come from, most
black people have very conservative values, right but the reality
is that, like we just can't side with like the
neo Nazis and nim We're not dealing with y'all like
that right.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
Now.
Speaker 3 (38:39):
This is extremely ironic because it was actually the Democrats
in the South that supported segregation and the Jim Crow laws.
But somehow it's the Republicans that are the racist ones.
Clearly someone doesn't know her history.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
Now.
Speaker 3 (38:53):
Our most recent contribution is this insightful comment because apparently
if you commit a crime, it doesn't actually make your
criminal good.
Speaker 18 (39:02):
What was kind of pushing them there? And so I
do want people to know that just because someone has
committed a crime, it doesn't make them a criminal. That
that is completely different. Being a criminal is more so
about your mindset. Committing a crime can come for a
lot of different reasons.
Speaker 3 (39:22):
What it's not your mindset, it's the fact that you
committed a crime. That is the dictionary definition of what
makes you a criminal. First, they change the definition of
a woman to anyone who identifies as one. Now a
criminal will be anyone who has the criminal mindset? Well,
how would that stand up in court? You're hona, Sorry,
(39:43):
I may have committed a crime, but I don't identify
as a criminal. How stupid. Well that's all the time
I have for you tonight. Stay tuned up. Next is
Danika and James and don't forget From three point thirty
am tonight Sydney Time, we're going to have rolling coverage
of Charlie Kirk's memorial here on Sky News. The memorial
(40:07):
itself kicks off at four am. There'll be a replay
later on in the day and then tomorrow night on
the Rita Panahy Show there'll be a special episode to
honor Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 2 (40:18):
That's at eleven pm. You can catch me on the
Late Debate tomorrow night at ten pm. Stay tuned up.
Next is Denniker and James.
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