August 31, 2025 • 49 mins
Thousands turn out for 'March for Australia' rallies, firebombings in Melbourne and Sydney confirmed as orchestrated by Iran. Plus, Richard Marles rushes to Washington but his trip sparks more questions than answers.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Now Freyer fires up.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Welcome to the program.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
Let's get into the three things that are firing me
up tonight. Number one the March for Australia Iran attacks
and three our US relationship. Today, thousands of people attended
March for Australia rallies nationwide. The events were poorly organized,
giving space for extremists to hijacket, but most people who
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turned up were decent, patriotic Australians who feel ignored by
the media and political class.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
However, this was the.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Despicable moment that unfolded when Jewish journalist R. V. Yomeni
confronted a group of neo Nazis. Thankfully, that was only
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a small group of people, most of the people that
when today feel frustrated and silenced. They see their children
locked out of home ownership, the middle class being hollowed out,
and communities fractured. This isn't the Australia they grew up in,
and it's not the one they want to leave behind.
While these rallies were instantly and widely condemned, we see
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weekly pro Palestine marches that rarely attract the same outrage,
despite them also being organized by people with extreme views.
The organizer of the Pro Palestine March, John Lees, wouldn't
even condemn hermas.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
I'm interested to know if you view Harmess as a
terrorist organization or a group of freedom fighters.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Well, I mean, I don't particularly want this story to
be about me. It's about trying to stop this great
crime that's going on in Gaza today. If you can
still answer that question pretty straightforward question, Well, I thought
that's straightforward.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
And these are the kinds of chance you can consistently hear.
And the only time you'll see an Australian flag is
if it's being burned or the person unfurling it is
getting arrested. Yet Pro Palestine marches rarely get the same
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level of condemnation. Now, I disagree with the organizers of
March for Australia, and I condemn the racist reetoric, but
this march is a flashpoint and it captures what many
Australians are feeling. Fifty three percent of Australians think immigration
is too high, even among young people. Forty percent think
immigration is too high. In the US and the UK,
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around fifteen percent of the population are migrants born overseas.
In Australia, it's over thirty percent. In fact, we have
the second highest share of foreign born people in the OECD,
and in the five years to the end of twenty
twenty four, which includes the pandemic lockdowns, net oversees migration
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averaged two hundred and sixty five thousand people per year,
a one hundred and ninety four percent increase above the
post war average. Since two thousand, our population has increased
by forty five percent. This is the fastest growth in
the developed world, and the budget projects that these levels
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of migration will continue indefinitely.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Into the future.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Extreme migration levels have led to housing shortages, slower productivity growth,
congested infrastructure and weakened social cohesion. But the immigration debate
must be careful. Migrants themselves are not to blame for
government policy of higher migration intake, and the danger is
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when mass When a opposition to mass immigration slides into
racial identity politics, If it becomes more about hating strangers
than loving Australia, the movement will not be successful. Even
though most Australians agree that migration levels are unsustainable. This
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week we found out that the firebombings in Melbourne and
Sydney weren't random acts of hate they were orchestrated by
the Islamic Republic of Iran. Now there are two ways
we can understand these events. The first interpretation is the
comfortable one that we don't really have an anti Semitism
problem here, that the fire bombings, the graffitis, it's all
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just foreign interference, and that the march as we see
every weekend will they're nothing more than Australians standing united
in outrage to the genocidal Netnyahu regime. But to see
it that way is a catastrophic mistake. It's exactly what
Iran wants us to believe. It's the success of Tehran's propaganda,
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ca and paign, not just against Israel, but against Australia
and the very foundations of Western civilization.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
The more accurate way to see these events is this.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Since October seven, Israel has been fighting an existential war
against our common enemy, Iran and its Jihades proxies. Gaza
is the most violent front in a much bigger conflict.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Think about it.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Israel was invaded by an Iranian proxy hamas Australia has
now been attacked by an Iranian proxy, the IRGC. The
difference is only a matter of scale. We are a
part of this war, whether we like it or not.
Now our Prime Minister says Australians don't want to see
killing in the Middle East and we don't want to
see these conflicts imported here. Well, fair enough, but he
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misses the point. Peace in the Middle East and social
cohesion here at home both face the same obstacle jihadist
Islam and its chief sponsor, the Ranian regime. The killing
will only stop when Hermas is defeated. Peace will come
when every terrorist group in the region understands that Israel
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cannot be destroyed militarily. That has always been the only
path to peace in the Middle East, peace through strength,
not weakness. And the Free Palestine movement here in Australia
is not a grassroots.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Campaign for justice.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
It's a trojan horse away froe Iran and its allies
to divide our society and undermine our values. It is
the vanguard of a jihadist and Marxist assault on Western civilization,
itself fueled by the new axis of evil Iran, Russia
and China. The Prime Minister in Asio deserve credit for
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expelling Iran's ambassadors and sanctioning the IRGC, but that is
only the beginning. If they're serious about keeping this conflict
from tearing Australia apart, they must confront Iran's remaining proxy
at home, the Free Palestine movement, because whether we like
it or not, the war is here and is nothing
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less than a war of civilizations. I have Sarah Schwartz
from the Pro Palestine Jewish Council of Australia on later
in the show to debate this issue. Now, Iran's multi
front war has been successful in achieving its broader goal
of divining the West. This week we saw Richard Miles
rush to Washington for his meeting with his US counterparts.
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His mission was to smooth things over the White House
and assure them that Australia will finally lift its defense
spending and hopefully pave the way for Albanese's long delayed
meeting with Trump. But the trip has frankly raised more
questions than answers. Initially, the US Defense Department said there
was not a meeting, it was a happenstance encounter. Then
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the Pentagon backtrack, saying the meeting at the White House
on Tuesday was coordinated in advance the way it's been
reported in the media is honestly hysterical.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
The ABC says.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Miles's White House meeting shows chaos of Trump administration. The
Sydney Morning Harold said Hegseth's undiplomatic treatment of Miles reveals
a chaotic, ungenerous ally. But the reality is it's the
confused and naive government of Australia that has caused the
current rift. The US has been a generous ally for
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many years, but it's time for US and the rest
of the world to pull our weight in that alliance.
We shouldn't be surprised that Trump is purposefully snubbing US.
This is history repeating itself. In nineteen seventy three, President
Richard Nixon made GoF Whitlam wait for six months to
receive his invitation to the White House because he was
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seen as unreliable and pivoting towards communist China.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
What's changed and I think.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Alminisi himself certainly sees the parallels between him and GoF Whitlam.
Speaker 5 (08:56):
I have the sense of history following the footstep of
the Labor Prime Minister Gough Whitlam, who was the first
Prime minister to visit here in nineteen seventy three.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Now we need to rapidly increase own defense spending and
realign ourselves with the West in the War of civilizations
that's unfolding. Instead, Alban Easy is sending all the wrong messages.
It's rushing to recognize a Palestinian state right as the
United States is painstakingly negotiating a hostage deal. Washington is
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blocking Palestinian officials from even attending the UN meeting in
New York in September. Yet Alban Easy seems to think
that'll be the perfect moment for his long awaited meeting
with Trump, as if the betrayal of both the US
and Israel will be conveniently forgotten.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (09:48):
Right.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
Meanwhile, Bob Carr and Daniel Andrews are preparing to attend
a Chinese military parade alongside Vladimir Putin and Kim Jong Un.
Moves like this don't project indo tendance or courage. They
show weakness. They cement the perception that Australia can be
bought off by China that were unreliable and will trade
long standing alliances for short term applause. It's no wonder
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the US has put labor in time out. They've got
a lot to sort out before the US takes Australia
seriously again, We've got a packed show for you tonight.
The CEO of the Pro Palestine Jewish Council for Australia
will join me for a heated debate on Israel and Gaza.
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Holocaust survivor Eddie Boaz will give his take on Iran's attacks.
Plus a US lefty joins us, and we'll attempt to
explain why socialist Zora mum Daney is actually a great
candidate for the mayor of New York. But first let's
bring in it tonight's panel filmmaker Biddy o'glaughlin and Sky
News contributor and composer Alexander Voltz. Today, thousands of people
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marched again and mass immigration around the country. As I
discussed my editorial, extremists have tried to hijack the event,
but on the whole it looks like the people who
attended were mostly just patriotic Australians fed up with these
huge levels of immigration. Alex what do you make of
these protests?
Speaker 6 (11:20):
Well, get a freyer and thanks for having me on
your new show. Really appreciate it. Look, I was very
grateful for the live coverages that Turning Point Australia did
of these protests, and I was able to, through these
live coverages look at what was going on behind the scenes,
what the media really wasn't reporting. I saw Australian people
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there who were fascinated in, you know, standing up for
what is their country. And I think, you know, I
didn't go to the protests, Freyer, but I was tossing
up whether they would go. I would go, and I
saw the Nazis and so on. But there's a lot
of people who feel strongly about immigration who did not
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go to these protests. And so I think what you
saw today was a microcosm of actually the mass sentiment
that people are just not very happy with the status quo.
I saw people in ETU shirts. I'm sure that the
majority of people on the ground, you know, we're from
across the political divide. It doesn't matter how people vote,
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they are very concerned about immigration. And that's what today reflects.
So on the whole, you know, I almost think that
this is a protest that should continue in some ways,
maybe to be looked at monthly or even more regularly.
We've got to get the message across to our political class.
That immigration is a serious problem that needs to be addressed.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Yeah, I definitely think that's right, and that people do
feel ignored. Biddy, what did you make of what we've seen?
Speaker 7 (12:52):
Well, I actually attended the Adelaide March protests. So I
live around the corner in the city from where they
were gathering, and I got my neighbor to watch my daughter,
and I said, I'm going to go down and have look.
And I went down and there was just a lot
of people. You know, I didn't see any of neo Nazis.
I'll get to that later, but what I saw was
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a bunch of Australian people from all walks of life
just standing up and saying they don't want their country
to be invaded. And it just sort of, you know,
it was heartwarming. And then I went back home, got
my daughter and took her back because I wasn't sure
what the vibe was going to be, and it seemed
pretty peaceful to me, and you know, very patriotic, and
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I was, like I said, it was very heartwarming. And
then we got to the final destination and there were
people giving speeches some stuff, and then I didn't hear
what exactly I heard, but I didn't see, sorry, exactly
who was speaking, but apparently it was these neon Nazis NSN,
which I'd never heard of until today, took the microphone
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and started to get booed from the crowd, and then
the speakers and were taken from and everybody just sort
of dispersed. So that was a real disappointment. But also
I didn't really know what was going on until I
spoke to people who were also leaving the park, But
up until that point it felt really really special.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
And that's the thing, right, these extremists, they actually do
a disservice to the whole group, and then what the
media does is they say, see, there were a few
radical people. Therefore anyone who doesn't support complete infinite migration
levels is associated with them and is tainted with the
same brush, which is actually really really sad. But Alex,
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I want to get your thoughts on this. The Governor
General Sam Mauston is under fire for her silence on
her overtly political patronage of certain charities. She's the patron
of Equality Australia, which is an activist organization preaches against
the right of biological women to have their own spaces
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You've written a brilliant OpEd about this for Sky News Australia.
Is it appropriate for the Governor General to be holding
such political roles.
Speaker 6 (15:08):
No, certainly not. For the Governor General should not be
the patron of Equality Australia. It's got nothing to do
with the substance of the Organization of Equality Australia beyond
the fact that this is a lobby political organization. That's
why the charities are not for profit. Commission refused it
DGR status and that's why the courts upheld that refusal
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right the way through to repeal it was only after
Her Excellency became the Governor became the Patron of Equality
Australia a month later that the Minister, through legislative instrument,
signed in DGR status for the organization. Now, the Governor
General has no business patronizing any organization that is political
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in that sense, That's exactly why the Governor General is
not patron of the Australian Monaricas leak despite notionally we're
on the same side here to protect the Crown in Australia.
So I think that the most appropriate thing for the
Governor General to do would be to give up this patronage.
And one more point on this, for you know, the
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Governor General has set the expectation that she will talk
to the media. Now, those communications that she's had with
the media occur in a controlled environment. That much is
patently obvious. But if you set that expectation, then expect
the media to come to you with questions. And I
just find it terribly ironic that the Governor General now
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has nothing to say when she's prided herself on transparency
in talking to the media.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
And Biddy, it doesn't exactly inspire trust or confidence in
our government or in the political system when someone who
is supposed to be the impartial head, the impartial representative
of the crown is actually taking sides on divisive political
issues that ironically are.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Very anti women.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
And she's had a career also supporting organizations that are
all about diversity.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
And women's inclusion.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
Yet she doesn't stand for women's spaces and the rights
of women. It's so deeply hypocritical, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Yeah, it's very.
Speaker 7 (17:20):
Much rules for the not for me, you know, and
that makes us feel like the condemnation that they have
for us, the ordinary Australians, you know, we're just not
even you.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Know, considered. I don't know.
Speaker 7 (17:33):
Sometimes it feels like people because they're relacently so hypocritical,
and you know, this role, the terms and conditions of
being the Governor General. You can't bring any controversy or
adversity to the position. And she's done exactly that by
being the patron of an organization arguing against women and
lesbians in the Federal Court. As we see with Giggle
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versus Tickle. It's incredible and so insulting.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Yeah, totally.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
Victoria has introduced a new treaty Bill and it's been
quietly pushed through Parliament with next to no debate. It says,
despite Victorians voting no to the Voice, but just since
to Alan doesn't really seem to care about democracy, They've
already spent three hundred and eighty million dollars on this
treaty process. It's spanned ten years, and no one actually
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knows where all the money's gone, apart from a select
group of Indigenous people who've been advising the government on
this process. Alex When will Labor and particularly just into
Alan stop taking Victorians for granted and actually denying them
their democratic right which they exercise in the voice to
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say no to this divisive racial politics.
Speaker 6 (18:52):
Well, I suppose prayer. The sad reality is that Victorians
have got to stop voting in labor government. But it's
very interesting talking about the mane earlier. One of the
things that was being parroted by a lot of Australians
down there, and I mean this in the genuine sense
of the word parroting, but they're very unhappy with the government.
It was beyond immigration. It was about how taxes are
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being spent. It was about division. That was a key
theme that was emerging on the ground from what I
could see. Now, you can't have two sovereignties. A nation
can't enter into a treaty with itself. There can only
be one captain of the ship. And so it is
with sovereignty. Without getting too legal, So the substance of
the matter is not a very intelligent one, I tend
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to think. But yeah, beyond the immigration question, these protests
today I think were about a lot more than just immigration.
And you know, the race relations in this country I
think were factored in very strongly into today's protest.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Yeah, exactly, And I think people have just had enough
of the politics of division.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Well, Thank you so much for joining me.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Guys, have a great rest of your evening. My burning
issue this week is the revelation that Iran was behind
at least two anti Semitic terror attacks in Australia. Joining
me now to discuss this is Concentration Camp Holocaust survivor
Eddie Boaz. Eddie, what did you make of the revelation
that Iran was orchestrating attacks on Australia's Jews?
Speaker 8 (20:25):
Thank you for inviting me, Frey. My thinking on that
is that was it unexpected? To be honest with you,
Australia went antisemitic by itself after the seventh of October,
and an organization or a country like around with take
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advantage of that.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
And when you look at how much our relationship with
Israel has deteriorated, how does that make you feel? As
someone who is Jewish yourself, who survived Holocaust, seeing Australia
turn out back on Israel, it must be heartbreaking.
Speaker 8 (21:04):
I think it's terrible. It should never have happened, and
it should still not happen. They can make up their
mine now. I think they should make up their mind
now to reverse that. Why don't they have a go
at Hamas and ask them to lay down their arms
and return their hostages. That won't finish the war. Why
have a go at Israel? All they're doing is defending themselves.
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Ask me, anybody, Ask anybody if they were Prime Minis
of Australia and Sydney, what would be at TechEd like that?
What would they do?
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Exactly?
Speaker 3 (21:36):
Well, I want to talk about your new documentary, Reflections
of Courage. It's one Best Australian Documentary at the Melbourne
Film Awards and he's going to enter the main Cans
Film Festival next year. Can you tell us a little
bit about what it's about and how we can watch it.
Speaker 8 (21:54):
It's the story of my life. Like my book which
is entitled I'm Not a Victim Imus Off, it's based
on that. It goes for fifty minutes. It's been well
received all over the world. We won Best Documentary in
Los Angeles, in New York and in carn and we're
also on Best Director in Los Angeles. We will premiere
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it at the Ritz Hotel at Randwick on the fifth
of October. I know that's the grand final night, but
we're starting at one o'clock. That will give everybody chance
to come in to the premiere and still be able
to go home to watch the Grand Final.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
That's so so brilliant and I'm so glad it's been
well received because there have been other documentaries and films
made about October seven. There was one made using Hamas
footage from October seven that they weren't allowed to actually
enter into the Toronto International Film Festival because the organizers
said they hadn't received permission from Hamas to use the
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footage they took on October seven. So have you experienced
any I guess anti Semitism in the process of making
this documentary or have people been supportive on the whole?
Speaker 8 (23:08):
Everybody's been supportive. You know. I have to admit I've
lived here for seventy or years, came Eve when I
was fourteen. I've never experienced antisemitism, even in today's world.
I know it's bad what's going on, but that's a
weak government that allows it to go on.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
That's so good and I think that's so true. Most
of us Australians love the Jewish people, love Israel as well,
and don't want to see discrimination against anyone. Well, Eddie,
thank you so much for being with us. Tonight and
best of luck with the documentary.
Speaker 8 (23:45):
Thank you very much. Prayer Well.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
Joining me now is True Blue Ouzsi farmer Luckie Ogden,
who is experiencing first hand the hardships facing farmers. Thanks
so much for being with us this evening. What are
some of the struggles farmers are facing right now?
Speaker 4 (24:05):
Thanks for having me on the show. Freyer, Look the
struggles farmers are having at the moment, it's probably not
too much difference to what other people are facing in society.
There's a lot of high input costs into what we're doing,
just the same as high cost of living pressures that
people are feeling. On top of that, we are feeling
the pinch pool of different things happening in our climate
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with droughts and floods, and property prices are going through
the roof, as well as where we are able to
market our commodities we're exporting from the property. It's tricky.
We're not getting the premiums that we should be with
the input costs that are going in.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
And you've made the trip down to Sydney to take part.
Is it a demonstration you guys are doing tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (24:50):
There's not so much a demonstration Freyer, where I've come
down to actually show support to the New South Wales government,
to show some support and provide some die based on
an issue that I feel fairly strongly about. We're trying
to see the New South Wales government has announced that
they're going to pass legislation allowing virtual fencing in both
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beef and dairy production. Virtual fencing. It's a tool in
our toolbox as farmers to be able to move cattle
around our properties, have better animal welfare, and grow and
feed our soils with strategic grazing practices. And yeah, we're
here to show support. We're actually not here in a
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demonstration or of any sense. We're wanting to have dialogue
and get process through this.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Oh that's great.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
One area where we haven't seen much dialogue or cooperation
has been in Victoria, where this week they pass a
highly controversial bill that gives this state Energy authority sweeping
powers to access private farmland with police backing. Is it
fair to say farmers are being bulldozed in Labour's pursuit
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of net zero transmission lines expected to go through your property,
wind turbines on neighboring properties and very little ability to
oppose them at the Bush Summit, we saw people really
just fed up with this sense that they're powerless in
the face of Labour's policies.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
How do you feel.
Speaker 4 (26:21):
About it, Freya, in all honesty to answer that question, one,
I'm not too I'm not fully across what's happening with
the Victorian power line situation, but I can imagine how
it is personally for me with some properties up on
the Daling Downs. We've had the similar approach with calcium gas,
and that's on both sides of the government. So I
think it's more a systematic failure to support farmers in
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that approach and allowing that property right that we seem
to get told that we have and not being able
to employ that when it is actually deemed necessary. I'm
more going to follow with that is that this stems
back to why we are here tomorrow, and we're here
for a demonstration. We're here for a discussion, like we're
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here to provide the dialogue and not just being up
in arms pointing fingers at the government and then pointing
fingers at us. We're wanting to see due process with
policy people and the politics taken out of it and
allowing things to go the right way.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Well, one hundred percent. We're with you, Lucky.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
We want what's best for our farmers and we know
that they're not being supported very well at the moment.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
So best of luck for tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
Thank you very much, Freo, do appreciate it.
Speaker 9 (27:34):
Well.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
Coming up after the break, my heat and debate with
pro pala Sign activist Sarah Schwartz, plus the crazy new
reason Democrats are trying to impeach Trump stick around, Welcome
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back to the program. Well, each week we have a
great debate to reach across the aisle and have robust discussion.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
This week we will certainly have a debate.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
Joining me now is CEO of the Jewish Council Australia,
Sarah Schwartz. Sarah, this week we found out from the
Prime Minister and the head of ASIO that Iran directed
at least two attacks against Australia's Jewish community.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
What's your reaction to that?
Speaker 1 (28:24):
My reaction is frankly surprise and shock.
Speaker 10 (28:27):
And I have to say, you know, these incidents instilled
a lot of fear within the Jewish community. I've seen
it myself, and you know also, you know after these incidents,
the government, politicians, the media, you know, spend a lot
of time blaming the Palestine Solidarity movement for these attacks.
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You know, now that we're receiving information from Asio, who's
alleged that a foreign state is responsible for these attacks.
I think this really needs to send a message to politicians,
to the media not to exacerbate fears within the Jewish
community and to.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
Stop politicizing these incidents.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
But presumably Iran only bothered to conduct these attacks because
they thought Australia was fertile ground for anti Semitism, right.
Speaker 10 (29:13):
I mean, I think I'm not going to speculate about
why Iran has committed these attacks without further information from Azio.
I think that there's a lot of questions that need
to be answered in this moment.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
It's a fairly extraordinary circumstance.
Speaker 10 (29:26):
But what I would say is that it's entirely unproductive
to focus on an anti genocide movement which is growing
and you know, you've seen Freyer, We've all seen hundreds
of thousands of Australians take to the streets in solidarity
with Palestinians in this moment because of Israel's ongoing genocidal
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war and attempts to eradicate Palestinians now. It is absolutely
unhelpful to the Jewish community, and I would say exacerbates
fears within the Jewish community to relate that movement for
peace and justice to a foreign state actor committing alleged
to be committing attacks on Australian soil.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
Well, I want to take you We're going to address
those rallies just in a second, but I also want
to get firstly your reaction to this post from Clementine Ford.
Speaker 11 (30:19):
The Australian federal government, under its lily lived, fucking coward
of a leader, Anthony Albanesi, expects us to believe that somehow,
my God, Iran has been responsible for antisumatism.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
I think this really just shows the nature of the
pro Palestine movement. Even when we have credible intelligence that
it was Iran directing these attacks, some people are saying,
there's no way this could have been Iran, this was
a Mussad operation, this was all Israel, and they're saying
it's actually false.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Do you condemn that post from Clementine Ford.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
People have legitimate questions in this moment.
Speaker 10 (31:03):
We've been told that Iran is behind these attacks. I,
like many other Australians, have a lot of questions about that,
which I think we need answers to.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
This is entirely kind of questions if you don't mind
me asking.
Speaker 10 (31:15):
What intelligence was relied on for, you know, to in
order to form the conclusion that Iran is behind these attacks.
You know what the rationale was for these attacks. You
know the relationship between Australian intelligence and international intelligence.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
You know.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
I think we have a lot of questions because at
the end of.
Speaker 10 (31:33):
The day, as a Jewish person, if a foreign state
is responsible for committing mass acts of anti Semitism or
acts of anti Semitism in Australia, we all deserve to
know why, because at the end of the day, we
want to prevent these attacks from recurring. But I have
to say, you know, in my view, one of the
leading causes of anti Semitism in this moment is the
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fact that Israel is currently committing war crimes and crimes
against humanity under a flag that has the Star of David.
But I think that we all need to look at
how anti Semitism is forming in this moment and how
we should address it, and that requires an actual engagement
with some of the underlying causes of anti Semitism in
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this moment.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
So you're saying that Israel's actions in Gaza are the
cause of a lot of the anti Semitism. But I
would say to that, isn't that victim blaming Israel were
the ones that were attacked by the Palestinian Resistance aka Hamas.
If Israel genuinely wanted to commit genocide, they could have
very easily in a single week, wiped out the whole
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of Gaza. Yet they're not yet, they're providing aid, yet
they're trying to evacuate civilians. But we could be here
talking about that aspect of this all night. I want
to get your reaction to the pro Palestine ran test first,
but let me just ask me.
Speaker 10 (32:53):
This Israel is attempting to eradicate Palestinians. You know, only
a few months ago, a few months ago, Israel approved
the largest expansion of settlements in the West Bank. They
are being very clear their intention is to wipe out
Palestinians from their lands, to eradicate them through ethnic cleansing
or through genocide. This has nothing to do with her
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Musk and everything to do with Israel's expansion and attempts
to eradicate Palestinians from their land.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
Well, it clearly has.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
It's not a genocide because a genocide requires intention, and
Israel does not have an intention to annihilate the Palestinians.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
As I said, if they did, they very quit. It's
really easily done that.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
But let me address the issue you brought up with
the West Bank.
Speaker 10 (33:37):
This one said military occupation to try to occupy Gaza City.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
To eradicate her maas her mass are holding their own
population hostage. But let me address your West Bank point.
Twenty percent of Israel are Arabs, are Palestinians. So but
you're saying Israelis and Jews have no right to live
in the West Bank.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
Yet center of.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
Israel's own population is Arabs. It's a bit of a
double standard. But let's move on. Iranian regime. Iranian Regian
flags have been spotted at pro Palestine rallies, Portraits of
Khamani have been present. Infamously, one was behind Premier Bobka
in the front row of the Harbor Bridge March. How
do you know that the foreign influence stops at attacks
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on Jewish sites? Couldn't they also be supporting these pro
Palestine rallies? And I guess adding emphasis to the pro
Palestine movement. Likewise, the media coming out of Gaza from
Al Jazeera, we know that is the state run media
of Qatar. How do you know that Iran's influence stops
at just direct attacks. Isn't a lot of a pro
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Palestine movement also being influenced by Iranian propaganda?
Speaker 10 (34:48):
That's a ridiculous claim. That's a ridiculous claim frame which
I'm not going to engage in.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
And what I had, why was the portrait of Hi there.
Speaker 10 (34:56):
You made some comments about the West Bank, and let
me be very very clear. I believe the Jewish Council
believes that all people between the Jordan River and the
Mediterranean Sea, that is, Israelis and Palestinians have equal rights
to freedom, equality, dignity, self determination. But instead, what we
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have and what we have always had since Israel's inception,
is various different legal regimes on behalf of Israel to
control Palestinian and we have in the West Bank the
world's longest military occupation, which the International Court of Justice,
every single major human rights organization has determined amounts to
the crime of apartheid is unlawful. Why because Palestinians living
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in that territory have to are not subject to the
same laws as Israel, They have less rights to resources,
They are frequently being subjected to expansion of settlements, and
we have evidence that Israel is supplying weapons to settlers
so that they can lynch Palestinians in the West Bank.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
This is in no way system of equality. What we
want to see, what we all want to see within
this movement is is a.
Speaker 10 (36:07):
Place where Palestinians are safe and where is Raelis are safe.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
But we don't currently have that.
Speaker 10 (36:12):
We have a situation where Israel has subjected Palestinians to
various regimes of.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
Control, legal subordination.
Speaker 10 (36:19):
And what that generates, Frayer is it generates violence, It
generates oppression.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
Violence forgets violence.
Speaker 10 (36:26):
And so if you want to see a place and
I want to see a place wherea Israelis are also safe,
then we have to be advocating for a future which
ends the systemic oppression of Palestinian.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
Well.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
I think we agree on that point that we both
want to see all people Israelis and Palestinians be safe
and treated with respect and dignity. I think where we
differ is when I look at Israel I see a
country where you have Arab Palestinian members of parliament, you
have Arab Palestinian judges, you have rights right we gain Israel,
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And I think if you look at the West Bain,
the problem time and time again has been that the
Palestinians have been offered a stage, yet they have rejected it,
and instead they have chosen Islamic ge hardest violence. And
now they are radical that population that overwhelmingly supported violence
on October seven, and it's no wonder there cannot be peace.
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How can you make peace with the people that want
to destroy you and have proven and have said they
will commit October seven as many times as is necessary
to wipe out Israel. I see Israel, which is a
country that has shown grace, extended the hand of peace,
and I see, unfortunately Palestinians being led by a jihadest
terrorist regime in Hamas and an anti Semitic.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
Regime in a Palestinian.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
Offering a hand of peace.
Speaker 10 (37:50):
How is carpet bombing and starving children offering a hand
of peace.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
I'm sorry, but that claim is so offensive.
Speaker 10 (37:56):
We wake up to news every single day of babies
being buried beneath the rebel of Israel bombing babies who
are being who were in incubators in hospitals.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
Productive.
Speaker 3 (38:07):
That's all the time we have now, I'm not offering
a hand of pep.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
That's all the time we have.
Speaker 3 (38:12):
But I think when you look at the history and
you see how many times the Palestinians have been offered
a state, how many times they've rejected it and they've
chose violence instead, I think the history speaks for itself.
But thank you so much for your time, Sarah, have
a great rest of your evening.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
Well.
Speaker 3 (38:28):
Coming up after the break, you will not believe the
hypocrisy of the Democrats. My guest, Jessica Burbank will talk
through all things us. Joining me now is political commentator
Jessica Burbank.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
Democrat Rep.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
Maxine Waters is calling for the twenty fifth Amendment to
be used against Trump.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
Have a look.
Speaker 9 (38:52):
It is time to call for Article twenty five of
the Constitution of the United States of America to determine
his unfitness, to determine that something's wrong with this president.
Speaker 3 (39:07):
Isn't it a bit ironic for the Democrats to be
calling Trump unfit when they had a barely conscious Joe
Biden in the White House for the last four years.
In fact, this was her just over a year ago,
last July, talking about why she was such a strong
Biden backup.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
I believe that he believed that he can do the job.
I believe he has.
Speaker 9 (39:32):
Been fair, not only with the Black community, but with
the people.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
Of this country.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
Isn't it just the height of hypocrisy.
Speaker 12 (39:42):
I don't know if Maxine Waters was close enough to
the White House to know what Biden was doing, then.
I do know that many people had taken meetings in
the White House ahead of the debate, ahead of the
typical primary season here in America, and they did not
decide that Biden was unfit to run, despite observing he
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was unfit to run. I remember that night of the debate.
I said, we haven't seen Joe Biden speak for longer
than a few minutes. We genuinely don't even know if
it can.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
Complete a sentence.
Speaker 12 (40:14):
And that night we were surprised, some of us, to
see that he couldn't. But yeah, I think that the
calls coming from inside the house. Maxine Waters herself is
eighty seven. Our Congress is incredibly old. There's been a
reluctancy to let new voices lead, and I think the
Democratic Party really needs to do that. That being said,
if he's unfit, he should be out. But it is
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a little bit difficult when you sort of let Biden
run again and us blow right through the primary season
even though he was unfit for office. So I really
wish we had someone who was calling for him to
step down delivering this message.
Speaker 2 (40:48):
Yeah, exactly. Look, I want to turn to New York now.
Speaker 3 (40:51):
Newpolling suggests Andrew Kuoimo could bait Mamdani if the other
candidates in the rice dropped out, Kuoimo would bait Mama
fifty two to forty one percent. But at the moment,
doesn't seem like they're going to be pulling out. So
how do you say this race playing out?
Speaker 12 (41:09):
Yeah, I'd have to see the polling to see the
margin of error and see who they talk to. We've
seen polling be incredibly wrong in the United States because
typically they're calling landlines, and not only do people not
have landlines, people don't answer the phone, and the type
of person to answer the phone to a random number
is a specific kind of person. And I think we've
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got to be careful about how much we learn about
the race. From these numbers, we've really got to dig
into how they're done. So i'd have to see the
pole to comment on that specifically, But I really think
Zorn's bottled lightning. We saw thousands of people show up
to a scavenger hunt. It was a it was not
even a political action day. It was just a fun
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event with Zorron. So liking Zorn is something that's become
sort of a movement more than just a campaign. And
you know, someone that's running on progressive policies when America's
more expensive than ever, when we've seen rent go up
time and time again, and median income not be enough
to get by in New York or most cities in America,
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and to have someone speak to that means he's reached
people all across the country, not just in New York.
Cuomo being soft on a lot of those issues I
think has set him up to fail.
Speaker 3 (42:25):
Look, Zara Mamdani previously called for New York to defund
their police. He now seems to be backtracking, and he's
actually tried reaching out to them, so I guess win
their votes, But is anyone actually falling for this? You
can just go through his Twitter to see years of
progressive talking points, particularly around police.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
How is this actually.
Speaker 3 (42:49):
Electable in New York when crime is such an issue.
Speaker 12 (42:54):
I think Mamdani is incredibly electable in New York, specifically
because crime is an issue. We've seen police budgets be
doubled with additional costs. Right now, the New York City
police budget is five point eight billion, with projected spending
at eleven billion due to increased incurred costs, so lawsuits,
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incidental expenses, overspending, it's ridiculous. And we're seeing homicide clearance
rates dropped during COVID. Now they've recovered, but we still
see homicide clearance rates at about eighty percent for white
people and fifty three percent for black people in New York.
So there are some racial issues in the policing system.
Speaker 2 (43:34):
Still.
Speaker 12 (43:34):
Zo Round's always been vocal about that that disparity needs
to be addressed. And as far as I'm concerned, when
we're seeing this much spending on police and only forty
percent of major crimes getting solved, we've got to think
a little bit differently about how we keep people safe
and how we address crime in a city like New York.
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Are we going to instead of sending someone who does
doesn't have a law degree with a gun to a
house to respond to a mental health crisis, when we
could instead be sending someone who's a social worker, someone
who's a psychiatrist, who could diffuse that situation where there's
not a crime being done but help is needed. And
so I think it's good that he's thinking creatively about
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these ideas. But I think he understands very well that
the defund the police message didn't communicate exactly what I
just described. People instead imagined like a GTA lobby becoming
of New York, just people running around committing crimes, a
lawless wasteland. And so I think he's right to say,
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you know, this title didn't describe the policy accurately, so
we should call criminal justice reforms that are progressive something else.
Speaker 3 (44:46):
But at the same time, I really understand the argument
that for the last ten years New York has been
run by Democrat mes. So if there are issues with
things like rental availability, policing, and then you say, well,
we want to break the system, isn't the system democrats
running the city. So wouldn't the alternative be to elect
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a Republican or a conservative mayor instead of launching even
further to the left and essentially doubling down on failure.
Speaker 12 (45:16):
There's a big difference, I would say, between someone like
Zorn and your standard establishment democrat like Cuomo, like Eric Adams.
Someone like Zorn is not afraid to talk about working
people's wages being low and wanting to invest in worker power.
When Cuomo's having fundraisers with major corporate donors and rubbing
shoulders with the elites at parties, He's not going to
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be thinking about the little guy in New York, no
matter how many times he delivers that message scripted for
him in an ad. Someone like Zorn who stood up
and joined the taxi cab workers on a hunger strike
when Bloomberg raised the price of a taxi medallion to
one million dollars, that's someone who understands the fight for
working people. So I don't don't see the only alternative
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to these establishment democrats as conservatives or Republicans. We have
a whole host of political ideas, and sometimes when you
go further to the left, it doesn't mean being more
of a democrat, it means different ideas entirely. And that's
really what Zorn brings to the table. Is not just
different policies, but actually a different mentality when it comes
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to governing and delivering on promises for working people.
Speaker 3 (46:27):
Very interesting and it'll be interesting to see how the
race plays out. But I want to bring your attention
to Julia Robertson's new film After the Hunt. It was
screened at the Venice Film Festival this week and it's
received backlash from some sections of the left wing media. Apparently,
attendees complain that it revives old arguments about women making
false allegations of sexual assault, but Julia roberts said, that's
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the point. Let's spark a conversation, and the tagline of
the movie poster says, not everything is supposed to make
you feel comfortable. So why is it that some topics
are totally off limits and we can't even talk about them.
I thought the left did stand for freedom of speech.
Speaker 12 (47:11):
Yeah, I haven't seen the movie. I've got to see
the movie to understand what they're talking about. But I
think Julia roberts In saying you know, I'm not going
to directly speak on this was merely heard saying you know,
the art speaks for itself, which I totally understand. You
put a message in a movie. If every person who
made a movie said this is why I made the
movie because this is what I want you to think,
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going to the movies would be incredibly boring. So I'm
glad she didn't say anything about it actually and let
the film speak for itself. But as far as you know,
sparking a conversation, some members of the left aren't all
of the left, just like some members of the right
aren't all of the right. I think there's a group
of insufferable people that are across the entire political spectrum
that will find something wrong with everything. And I call
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these people the miserable, and they're not principled, they don't
care about free speech. They just want to find something
wrong with everything, and that's how I would categorize these people.
I think it's important to have these conversations around sexual
assault because it's still a problem today that women do
not believe other women when cases of sexual assault and allegations.
Speaker 2 (48:13):
Are brought forward.
Speaker 12 (48:14):
And so we've got to get to a place where
we're engaging with each other in good faith and we're
looking for evidence, and people are allowed to have free
conversations about some of these extremely difficult subjects.
Speaker 2 (48:25):
Do I expect.
Speaker 12 (48:26):
Julia Roberts to be a thought leader. No, I expect
her to be a movie maker. And that's enough for me.
Speaker 2 (48:32):
Yeah, that's exactly right. Well, thank you so much for
your time, Jessica.
Speaker 12 (48:36):
Yes, thanks for having me.
Speaker 3 (48:38):
Well this makes Fruitcake is MSNBC former host Joy Read,
who actually brags about being a DEI high.
Speaker 2 (48:45):
I actually am very much in favor of DEI.
Speaker 3 (48:48):
I don't take that as an insult because I understand
that that means that I'm just damn excellent and innovative,
and yeah, I am DEI. Well, I think we can
all agree she clearly was not hired for her intelligence.
Speaker 2 (49:00):
That's all from me. I'll see you
Speaker 3 (49:01):
Tomorrow night on the Late Today, But stay tuned because
up next is Dneka and James
Now Freyer fires up.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Welcome to the program.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
Let's get into the three things that are firing me
up tonight. Number one the March for Australia Iran attacks
and three our US relationship. Today, thousands of people attended
March for Australia rallies nationwide. The events were poorly organized,
giving space for extremists to hijacket, but most people who
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turned up were decent, patriotic Australians who feel ignored by
the media and political class.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
However, this was the.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Despicable moment that unfolded when Jewish journalist R. V. Yomeni
confronted a group of neo Nazis. Thankfully, that was only
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a small group of people, most of the people that
when today feel frustrated and silenced. They see their children
locked out of home ownership, the middle class being hollowed out,
and communities fractured. This isn't the Australia they grew up in,
and it's not the one they want to leave behind.
While these rallies were instantly and widely condemned, we see
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weekly pro Palestine marches that rarely attract the same outrage,
despite them also being organized by people with extreme views.
The organizer of the Pro Palestine March, John Lees, wouldn't
even condemn hermas.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
I'm interested to know if you view Harmess as a
terrorist organization or a group of freedom fighters.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Well, I mean, I don't particularly want this story to
be about me. It's about trying to stop this great
crime that's going on in Gaza today. If you can
still answer that question pretty straightforward question, Well, I thought
that's straightforward.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
And these are the kinds of chance you can consistently hear.
And the only time you'll see an Australian flag is
if it's being burned or the person unfurling it is
getting arrested. Yet Pro Palestine marches rarely get the same
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level of condemnation. Now, I disagree with the organizers of
March for Australia, and I condemn the racist reetoric, but
this march is a flashpoint and it captures what many
Australians are feeling. Fifty three percent of Australians think immigration
is too high, even among young people. Forty percent think
immigration is too high. In the US and the UK,
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around fifteen percent of the population are migrants born overseas.
In Australia, it's over thirty percent. In fact, we have
the second highest share of foreign born people in the OECD,
and in the five years to the end of twenty
twenty four, which includes the pandemic lockdowns, net oversees migration
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averaged two hundred and sixty five thousand people per year,
a one hundred and ninety four percent increase above the
post war average. Since two thousand, our population has increased
by forty five percent. This is the fastest growth in
the developed world, and the budget projects that these levels
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of migration will continue indefinitely.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Into the future.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Extreme migration levels have led to housing shortages, slower productivity growth,
congested infrastructure and weakened social cohesion. But the immigration debate
must be careful. Migrants themselves are not to blame for
government policy of higher migration intake, and the danger is
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when mass When a opposition to mass immigration slides into
racial identity politics, If it becomes more about hating strangers
than loving Australia, the movement will not be successful. Even
though most Australians agree that migration levels are unsustainable. This
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week we found out that the firebombings in Melbourne and
Sydney weren't random acts of hate they were orchestrated by
the Islamic Republic of Iran. Now there are two ways
we can understand these events. The first interpretation is the
comfortable one that we don't really have an anti Semitism
problem here, that the fire bombings, the graffitis, it's all
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just foreign interference, and that the march as we see
every weekend will they're nothing more than Australians standing united
in outrage to the genocidal Netnyahu regime. But to see
it that way is a catastrophic mistake. It's exactly what
Iran wants us to believe. It's the success of Tehran's propaganda,
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ca and paign, not just against Israel, but against Australia
and the very foundations of Western civilization.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
The more accurate way to see these events is this.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Since October seven, Israel has been fighting an existential war
against our common enemy, Iran and its Jihades proxies. Gaza
is the most violent front in a much bigger conflict.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Think about it.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Israel was invaded by an Iranian proxy hamas Australia has
now been attacked by an Iranian proxy, the IRGC. The
difference is only a matter of scale. We are a
part of this war, whether we like it or not.
Now our Prime Minister says Australians don't want to see
killing in the Middle East and we don't want to
see these conflicts imported here. Well, fair enough, but he
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misses the point. Peace in the Middle East and social
cohesion here at home both face the same obstacle jihadist
Islam and its chief sponsor, the Ranian regime. The killing
will only stop when Hermas is defeated. Peace will come
when every terrorist group in the region understands that Israel
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cannot be destroyed militarily. That has always been the only
path to peace in the Middle East, peace through strength,
not weakness. And the Free Palestine movement here in Australia
is not a grassroots.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Campaign for justice.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
It's a trojan horse away froe Iran and its allies
to divide our society and undermine our values. It is
the vanguard of a jihadist and Marxist assault on Western civilization,
itself fueled by the new axis of evil Iran, Russia
and China. The Prime Minister in Asio deserve credit for
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expelling Iran's ambassadors and sanctioning the IRGC, but that is
only the beginning. If they're serious about keeping this conflict
from tearing Australia apart, they must confront Iran's remaining proxy
at home, the Free Palestine movement, because whether we like
it or not, the war is here and is nothing
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less than a war of civilizations. I have Sarah Schwartz
from the Pro Palestine Jewish Council of Australia on later
in the show to debate this issue. Now, Iran's multi
front war has been successful in achieving its broader goal
of divining the West. This week we saw Richard Miles
rush to Washington for his meeting with his US counterparts.
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His mission was to smooth things over the White House
and assure them that Australia will finally lift its defense
spending and hopefully pave the way for Albanese's long delayed
meeting with Trump. But the trip has frankly raised more
questions than answers. Initially, the US Defense Department said there
was not a meeting, it was a happenstance encounter. Then
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the Pentagon backtrack, saying the meeting at the White House
on Tuesday was coordinated in advance the way it's been
reported in the media is honestly hysterical.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
The ABC says.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Miles's White House meeting shows chaos of Trump administration. The
Sydney Morning Harold said Hegseth's undiplomatic treatment of Miles reveals
a chaotic, ungenerous ally. But the reality is it's the
confused and naive government of Australia that has caused the
current rift. The US has been a generous ally for
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many years, but it's time for US and the rest
of the world to pull our weight in that alliance.
We shouldn't be surprised that Trump is purposefully snubbing US.
This is history repeating itself. In nineteen seventy three, President
Richard Nixon made GoF Whitlam wait for six months to
receive his invitation to the White House because he was
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seen as unreliable and pivoting towards communist China.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
What's changed and I think.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Alminisi himself certainly sees the parallels between him and GoF Whitlam.
Speaker 5 (08:56):
I have the sense of history following the footstep of
the Labor Prime Minister Gough Whitlam, who was the first
Prime minister to visit here in nineteen seventy three.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Now we need to rapidly increase own defense spending and
realign ourselves with the West in the War of civilizations
that's unfolding. Instead, Alban Easy is sending all the wrong messages.
It's rushing to recognize a Palestinian state right as the
United States is painstakingly negotiating a hostage deal. Washington is
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blocking Palestinian officials from even attending the UN meeting in
New York in September. Yet Alban Easy seems to think
that'll be the perfect moment for his long awaited meeting
with Trump, as if the betrayal of both the US
and Israel will be conveniently forgotten.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (09:48):
Right.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
Meanwhile, Bob Carr and Daniel Andrews are preparing to attend
a Chinese military parade alongside Vladimir Putin and Kim Jong Un.
Moves like this don't project indo tendance or courage. They
show weakness. They cement the perception that Australia can be
bought off by China that were unreliable and will trade
long standing alliances for short term applause. It's no wonder
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the US has put labor in time out. They've got
a lot to sort out before the US takes Australia
seriously again, We've got a packed show for you tonight.
The CEO of the Pro Palestine Jewish Council for Australia
will join me for a heated debate on Israel and Gaza.
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Holocaust survivor Eddie Boaz will give his take on Iran's attacks.
Plus a US lefty joins us, and we'll attempt to
explain why socialist Zora mum Daney is actually a great
candidate for the mayor of New York. But first let's
bring in it tonight's panel filmmaker Biddy o'glaughlin and Sky
News contributor and composer Alexander Voltz. Today, thousands of people
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marched again and mass immigration around the country. As I
discussed my editorial, extremists have tried to hijack the event,
but on the whole it looks like the people who
attended were mostly just patriotic Australians fed up with these
huge levels of immigration. Alex what do you make of
these protests?
Speaker 6 (11:20):
Well, get a freyer and thanks for having me on
your new show. Really appreciate it. Look, I was very
grateful for the live coverages that Turning Point Australia did
of these protests, and I was able to, through these
live coverages look at what was going on behind the scenes,
what the media really wasn't reporting. I saw Australian people
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there who were fascinated in, you know, standing up for
what is their country. And I think, you know, I
didn't go to the protests, Freyer, but I was tossing
up whether they would go. I would go, and I
saw the Nazis and so on. But there's a lot
of people who feel strongly about immigration who did not
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go to these protests. And so I think what you
saw today was a microcosm of actually the mass sentiment
that people are just not very happy with the status quo.
I saw people in ETU shirts. I'm sure that the
majority of people on the ground, you know, we're from
across the political divide. It doesn't matter how people vote,
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they are very concerned about immigration. And that's what today reflects.
So on the whole, you know, I almost think that
this is a protest that should continue in some ways,
maybe to be looked at monthly or even more regularly.
We've got to get the message across to our political class.
That immigration is a serious problem that needs to be addressed.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Yeah, I definitely think that's right, and that people do
feel ignored. Biddy, what did you make of what we've seen?
Speaker 7 (12:52):
Well, I actually attended the Adelaide March protests. So I
live around the corner in the city from where they
were gathering, and I got my neighbor to watch my daughter,
and I said, I'm going to go down and have look.
And I went down and there was just a lot
of people. You know, I didn't see any of neo Nazis.
I'll get to that later, but what I saw was
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a bunch of Australian people from all walks of life
just standing up and saying they don't want their country
to be invaded. And it just sort of, you know,
it was heartwarming. And then I went back home, got
my daughter and took her back because I wasn't sure
what the vibe was going to be, and it seemed
pretty peaceful to me, and you know, very patriotic, and
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I was, like I said, it was very heartwarming. And
then we got to the final destination and there were
people giving speeches some stuff, and then I didn't hear
what exactly I heard, but I didn't see, sorry, exactly
who was speaking, but apparently it was these neon Nazis NSN,
which I'd never heard of until today, took the microphone
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and started to get booed from the crowd, and then
the speakers and were taken from and everybody just sort
of dispersed. So that was a real disappointment. But also
I didn't really know what was going on until I
spoke to people who were also leaving the park, But
up until that point it felt really really special.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
And that's the thing, right, these extremists, they actually do
a disservice to the whole group, and then what the
media does is they say, see, there were a few
radical people. Therefore anyone who doesn't support complete infinite migration
levels is associated with them and is tainted with the
same brush, which is actually really really sad. But Alex,
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I want to get your thoughts on this. The Governor
General Sam Mauston is under fire for her silence on
her overtly political patronage of certain charities. She's the patron
of Equality Australia, which is an activist organization preaches against
the right of biological women to have their own spaces
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You've written a brilliant OpEd about this for Sky News Australia.
Is it appropriate for the Governor General to be holding
such political roles.
Speaker 6 (15:08):
No, certainly not. For the Governor General should not be
the patron of Equality Australia. It's got nothing to do
with the substance of the Organization of Equality Australia beyond
the fact that this is a lobby political organization. That's
why the charities are not for profit. Commission refused it
DGR status and that's why the courts upheld that refusal
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right the way through to repeal it was only after
Her Excellency became the Governor became the Patron of Equality
Australia a month later that the Minister, through legislative instrument,
signed in DGR status for the organization. Now, the Governor
General has no business patronizing any organization that is political
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in that sense, That's exactly why the Governor General is
not patron of the Australian Monaricas leak despite notionally we're
on the same side here to protect the Crown in Australia.
So I think that the most appropriate thing for the
Governor General to do would be to give up this patronage.
And one more point on this, for you know, the
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Governor General has set the expectation that she will talk
to the media. Now, those communications that she's had with
the media occur in a controlled environment. That much is
patently obvious. But if you set that expectation, then expect
the media to come to you with questions. And I
just find it terribly ironic that the Governor General now
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has nothing to say when she's prided herself on transparency
in talking to the media.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
And Biddy, it doesn't exactly inspire trust or confidence in
our government or in the political system when someone who
is supposed to be the impartial head, the impartial representative
of the crown is actually taking sides on divisive political
issues that ironically are.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Very anti women.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
And she's had a career also supporting organizations that are
all about diversity.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
And women's inclusion.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
Yet she doesn't stand for women's spaces and the rights
of women. It's so deeply hypocritical, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Yeah, it's very.
Speaker 7 (17:20):
Much rules for the not for me, you know, and
that makes us feel like the condemnation that they have
for us, the ordinary Australians, you know, we're just not
even you.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Know, considered. I don't know.
Speaker 7 (17:33):
Sometimes it feels like people because they're relacently so hypocritical,
and you know, this role, the terms and conditions of
being the Governor General. You can't bring any controversy or
adversity to the position. And she's done exactly that by
being the patron of an organization arguing against women and
lesbians in the Federal Court. As we see with Giggle
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versus Tickle. It's incredible and so insulting.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Yeah, totally.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
Victoria has introduced a new treaty Bill and it's been
quietly pushed through Parliament with next to no debate. It says,
despite Victorians voting no to the Voice, but just since
to Alan doesn't really seem to care about democracy, They've
already spent three hundred and eighty million dollars on this
treaty process. It's spanned ten years, and no one actually
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knows where all the money's gone, apart from a select
group of Indigenous people who've been advising the government on
this process. Alex When will Labor and particularly just into
Alan stop taking Victorians for granted and actually denying them
their democratic right which they exercise in the voice to
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say no to this divisive racial politics.
Speaker 6 (18:52):
Well, I suppose prayer. The sad reality is that Victorians
have got to stop voting in labor government. But it's
very interesting talking about the mane earlier. One of the
things that was being parroted by a lot of Australians
down there, and I mean this in the genuine sense
of the word parroting, but they're very unhappy with the government.
It was beyond immigration. It was about how taxes are
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being spent. It was about division. That was a key
theme that was emerging on the ground from what I
could see. Now, you can't have two sovereignties. A nation
can't enter into a treaty with itself. There can only
be one captain of the ship. And so it is
with sovereignty. Without getting too legal, So the substance of
the matter is not a very intelligent one, I tend
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to think. But yeah, beyond the immigration question, these protests
today I think were about a lot more than just immigration.
And you know, the race relations in this country I
think were factored in very strongly into today's protest.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Yeah, exactly, And I think people have just had enough
of the politics of division.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Well, Thank you so much for joining me.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Guys, have a great rest of your evening. My burning
issue this week is the revelation that Iran was behind
at least two anti Semitic terror attacks in Australia. Joining
me now to discuss this is Concentration Camp Holocaust survivor
Eddie Boaz. Eddie, what did you make of the revelation
that Iran was orchestrating attacks on Australia's Jews?
Speaker 8 (20:25):
Thank you for inviting me, Frey. My thinking on that
is that was it unexpected? To be honest with you,
Australia went antisemitic by itself after the seventh of October,
and an organization or a country like around with take
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advantage of that.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
And when you look at how much our relationship with
Israel has deteriorated, how does that make you feel? As
someone who is Jewish yourself, who survived Holocaust, seeing Australia
turn out back on Israel, it must be heartbreaking.
Speaker 8 (21:04):
I think it's terrible. It should never have happened, and
it should still not happen. They can make up their
mine now. I think they should make up their mind
now to reverse that. Why don't they have a go
at Hamas and ask them to lay down their arms
and return their hostages. That won't finish the war. Why
have a go at Israel? All they're doing is defending themselves.
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Ask me, anybody, Ask anybody if they were Prime Minis
of Australia and Sydney, what would be at TechEd like that?
What would they do?
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Exactly?
Speaker 3 (21:36):
Well, I want to talk about your new documentary, Reflections
of Courage. It's one Best Australian Documentary at the Melbourne
Film Awards and he's going to enter the main Cans
Film Festival next year. Can you tell us a little
bit about what it's about and how we can watch it.
Speaker 8 (21:54):
It's the story of my life. Like my book which
is entitled I'm Not a Victim Imus Off, it's based
on that. It goes for fifty minutes. It's been well
received all over the world. We won Best Documentary in
Los Angeles, in New York and in carn and we're
also on Best Director in Los Angeles. We will premiere
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it at the Ritz Hotel at Randwick on the fifth
of October. I know that's the grand final night, but
we're starting at one o'clock. That will give everybody chance
to come in to the premiere and still be able
to go home to watch the Grand Final.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
That's so so brilliant and I'm so glad it's been
well received because there have been other documentaries and films
made about October seven. There was one made using Hamas
footage from October seven that they weren't allowed to actually
enter into the Toronto International Film Festival because the organizers
said they hadn't received permission from Hamas to use the
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footage they took on October seven. So have you experienced
any I guess anti Semitism in the process of making
this documentary or have people been supportive on the whole?
Speaker 8 (23:08):
Everybody's been supportive. You know. I have to admit I've
lived here for seventy or years, came Eve when I
was fourteen. I've never experienced antisemitism, even in today's world.
I know it's bad what's going on, but that's a
weak government that allows it to go on.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
That's so good and I think that's so true. Most
of us Australians love the Jewish people, love Israel as well,
and don't want to see discrimination against anyone. Well, Eddie,
thank you so much for being with us. Tonight and
best of luck with the documentary.
Speaker 8 (23:45):
Thank you very much. Prayer Well.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
Joining me now is True Blue Ouzsi farmer Luckie Ogden,
who is experiencing first hand the hardships facing farmers. Thanks
so much for being with us this evening. What are
some of the struggles farmers are facing right now?
Speaker 4 (24:05):
Thanks for having me on the show. Freyer, Look the
struggles farmers are having at the moment, it's probably not
too much difference to what other people are facing in society.
There's a lot of high input costs into what we're doing,
just the same as high cost of living pressures that
people are feeling. On top of that, we are feeling
the pinch pool of different things happening in our climate
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with droughts and floods, and property prices are going through
the roof, as well as where we are able to
market our commodities we're exporting from the property. It's tricky.
We're not getting the premiums that we should be with
the input costs that are going in.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
And you've made the trip down to Sydney to take part.
Is it a demonstration you guys are doing tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (24:50):
There's not so much a demonstration Freyer, where I've come
down to actually show support to the New South Wales government,
to show some support and provide some die based on
an issue that I feel fairly strongly about. We're trying
to see the New South Wales government has announced that
they're going to pass legislation allowing virtual fencing in both
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beef and dairy production. Virtual fencing. It's a tool in
our toolbox as farmers to be able to move cattle
around our properties, have better animal welfare, and grow and
feed our soils with strategic grazing practices. And yeah, we're
here to show support. We're actually not here in a
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demonstration or of any sense. We're wanting to have dialogue
and get process through this.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Oh that's great.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
One area where we haven't seen much dialogue or cooperation
has been in Victoria, where this week they pass a
highly controversial bill that gives this state Energy authority sweeping
powers to access private farmland with police backing. Is it
fair to say farmers are being bulldozed in Labour's pursuit
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of net zero transmission lines expected to go through your property,
wind turbines on neighboring properties and very little ability to
oppose them at the Bush Summit, we saw people really
just fed up with this sense that they're powerless in
the face of Labour's policies.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
How do you feel.
Speaker 4 (26:21):
About it, Freya, in all honesty to answer that question, one,
I'm not too I'm not fully across what's happening with
the Victorian power line situation, but I can imagine how
it is personally for me with some properties up on
the Daling Downs. We've had the similar approach with calcium gas,
and that's on both sides of the government. So I
think it's more a systematic failure to support farmers in
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that approach and allowing that property right that we seem
to get told that we have and not being able
to employ that when it is actually deemed necessary. I'm
more going to follow with that is that this stems
back to why we are here tomorrow, and we're here
for a demonstration. We're here for a discussion, like we're
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here to provide the dialogue and not just being up
in arms pointing fingers at the government and then pointing
fingers at us. We're wanting to see due process with
policy people and the politics taken out of it and
allowing things to go the right way.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Well, one hundred percent. We're with you, Lucky.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
We want what's best for our farmers and we know
that they're not being supported very well at the moment.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
So best of luck for tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
Thank you very much, Freo, do appreciate it.
Speaker 9 (27:34):
Well.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
Coming up after the break, my heat and debate with
pro pala Sign activist Sarah Schwartz, plus the crazy new
reason Democrats are trying to impeach Trump stick around, Welcome
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back to the program. Well, each week we have a
great debate to reach across the aisle and have robust discussion.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
This week we will certainly have a debate.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
Joining me now is CEO of the Jewish Council Australia,
Sarah Schwartz. Sarah, this week we found out from the
Prime Minister and the head of ASIO that Iran directed
at least two attacks against Australia's Jewish community.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
What's your reaction to that?
Speaker 1 (28:24):
My reaction is frankly surprise and shock.
Speaker 10 (28:27):
And I have to say, you know, these incidents instilled
a lot of fear within the Jewish community. I've seen
it myself, and you know also, you know after these incidents,
the government, politicians, the media, you know, spend a lot
of time blaming the Palestine Solidarity movement for these attacks.
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You know, now that we're receiving information from Asio, who's
alleged that a foreign state is responsible for these attacks.
I think this really needs to send a message to politicians,
to the media not to exacerbate fears within the Jewish
community and to.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
Stop politicizing these incidents.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
But presumably Iran only bothered to conduct these attacks because
they thought Australia was fertile ground for anti Semitism, right.
Speaker 10 (29:13):
I mean, I think I'm not going to speculate about
why Iran has committed these attacks without further information from Azio.
I think that there's a lot of questions that need
to be answered in this moment.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
It's a fairly extraordinary circumstance.
Speaker 10 (29:26):
But what I would say is that it's entirely unproductive
to focus on an anti genocide movement which is growing
and you know, you've seen Freyer, We've all seen hundreds
of thousands of Australians take to the streets in solidarity
with Palestinians in this moment because of Israel's ongoing genocidal
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war and attempts to eradicate Palestinians now. It is absolutely
unhelpful to the Jewish community, and I would say exacerbates
fears within the Jewish community to relate that movement for
peace and justice to a foreign state actor committing alleged
to be committing attacks on Australian soil.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
Well, I want to take you We're going to address
those rallies just in a second, but I also want
to get firstly your reaction to this post from Clementine Ford.
Speaker 11 (30:19):
The Australian federal government, under its lily lived, fucking coward
of a leader, Anthony Albanesi, expects us to believe that somehow,
my God, Iran has been responsible for antisumatism.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
I think this really just shows the nature of the
pro Palestine movement. Even when we have credible intelligence that
it was Iran directing these attacks, some people are saying,
there's no way this could have been Iran, this was
a Mussad operation, this was all Israel, and they're saying
it's actually false.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Do you condemn that post from Clementine Ford.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
People have legitimate questions in this moment.
Speaker 10 (31:03):
We've been told that Iran is behind these attacks. I,
like many other Australians, have a lot of questions about that,
which I think we need answers to.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
This is entirely kind of questions if you don't mind
me asking.
Speaker 10 (31:15):
What intelligence was relied on for, you know, to in
order to form the conclusion that Iran is behind these attacks.
You know what the rationale was for these attacks. You
know the relationship between Australian intelligence and international intelligence.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
You know.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
I think we have a lot of questions because at
the end of.
Speaker 10 (31:33):
The day, as a Jewish person, if a foreign state
is responsible for committing mass acts of anti Semitism or
acts of anti Semitism in Australia, we all deserve to
know why, because at the end of the day, we
want to prevent these attacks from recurring. But I have
to say, you know, in my view, one of the
leading causes of anti Semitism in this moment is the
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fact that Israel is currently committing war crimes and crimes
against humanity under a flag that has the Star of David.
But I think that we all need to look at
how anti Semitism is forming in this moment and how
we should address it, and that requires an actual engagement
with some of the underlying causes of anti Semitism in
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this moment.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
So you're saying that Israel's actions in Gaza are the
cause of a lot of the anti Semitism. But I
would say to that, isn't that victim blaming Israel were
the ones that were attacked by the Palestinian Resistance aka Hamas.
If Israel genuinely wanted to commit genocide, they could have
very easily in a single week, wiped out the whole
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of Gaza. Yet they're not yet, they're providing aid, yet
they're trying to evacuate civilians. But we could be here
talking about that aspect of this all night. I want
to get your reaction to the pro Palestine ran test first,
but let me just ask me.
Speaker 10 (32:53):
This Israel is attempting to eradicate Palestinians. You know, only
a few months ago, a few months ago, Israel approved
the largest expansion of settlements in the West Bank. They
are being very clear their intention is to wipe out
Palestinians from their lands, to eradicate them through ethnic cleansing
or through genocide. This has nothing to do with her
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Musk and everything to do with Israel's expansion and attempts
to eradicate Palestinians from their land.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
Well, it clearly has.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
It's not a genocide because a genocide requires intention, and
Israel does not have an intention to annihilate the Palestinians.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
As I said, if they did, they very quit. It's
really easily done that.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
But let me address the issue you brought up with
the West Bank.
Speaker 10 (33:37):
This one said military occupation to try to occupy Gaza City.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
To eradicate her maas her mass are holding their own
population hostage. But let me address your West Bank point.
Twenty percent of Israel are Arabs, are Palestinians. So but
you're saying Israelis and Jews have no right to live
in the West Bank.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
Yet center of.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
Israel's own population is Arabs. It's a bit of a
double standard. But let's move on. Iranian regime. Iranian Regian
flags have been spotted at pro Palestine rallies, Portraits of
Khamani have been present. Infamously, one was behind Premier Bobka
in the front row of the Harbor Bridge March. How
do you know that the foreign influence stops at attacks
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on Jewish sites? Couldn't they also be supporting these pro
Palestine rallies? And I guess adding emphasis to the pro
Palestine movement. Likewise, the media coming out of Gaza from
Al Jazeera, we know that is the state run media
of Qatar. How do you know that Iran's influence stops
at just direct attacks. Isn't a lot of a pro
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Palestine movement also being influenced by Iranian propaganda?
Speaker 10 (34:48):
That's a ridiculous claim. That's a ridiculous claim frame which
I'm not going to engage in.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
And what I had, why was the portrait of Hi there.
Speaker 10 (34:56):
You made some comments about the West Bank, and let
me be very very clear. I believe the Jewish Council
believes that all people between the Jordan River and the
Mediterranean Sea, that is, Israelis and Palestinians have equal rights
to freedom, equality, dignity, self determination. But instead, what we
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have and what we have always had since Israel's inception,
is various different legal regimes on behalf of Israel to
control Palestinian and we have in the West Bank the
world's longest military occupation, which the International Court of Justice,
every single major human rights organization has determined amounts to
the crime of apartheid is unlawful. Why because Palestinians living
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in that territory have to are not subject to the
same laws as Israel, They have less rights to resources,
They are frequently being subjected to expansion of settlements, and
we have evidence that Israel is supplying weapons to settlers
so that they can lynch Palestinians in the West Bank.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
This is in no way system of equality. What we
want to see, what we all want to see within
this movement is is a.
Speaker 10 (36:07):
Place where Palestinians are safe and where is Raelis are safe.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
But we don't currently have that.
Speaker 10 (36:12):
We have a situation where Israel has subjected Palestinians to
various regimes of.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
Control, legal subordination.
Speaker 10 (36:19):
And what that generates, Frayer is it generates violence, It
generates oppression.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
Violence forgets violence.
Speaker 10 (36:26):
And so if you want to see a place and
I want to see a place wherea Israelis are also safe,
then we have to be advocating for a future which
ends the systemic oppression of Palestinian.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
Well.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
I think we agree on that point that we both
want to see all people Israelis and Palestinians be safe
and treated with respect and dignity. I think where we
differ is when I look at Israel I see a
country where you have Arab Palestinian members of parliament, you
have Arab Palestinian judges, you have rights right we gain Israel,
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And I think if you look at the West Bain,
the problem time and time again has been that the
Palestinians have been offered a stage, yet they have rejected it,
and instead they have chosen Islamic ge hardest violence. And
now they are radical that population that overwhelmingly supported violence
on October seven, and it's no wonder there cannot be peace.
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How can you make peace with the people that want
to destroy you and have proven and have said they
will commit October seven as many times as is necessary
to wipe out Israel. I see Israel, which is a
country that has shown grace, extended the hand of peace,
and I see, unfortunately Palestinians being led by a jihadest
terrorist regime in Hamas and an anti Semitic.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
Regime in a Palestinian.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
Offering a hand of peace.
Speaker 10 (37:50):
How is carpet bombing and starving children offering a hand
of peace.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
I'm sorry, but that claim is so offensive.
Speaker 10 (37:56):
We wake up to news every single day of babies
being buried beneath the rebel of Israel bombing babies who
are being who were in incubators in hospitals.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
Productive.
Speaker 3 (38:07):
That's all the time we have now, I'm not offering
a hand of pep.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
That's all the time we have.
Speaker 3 (38:12):
But I think when you look at the history and
you see how many times the Palestinians have been offered
a state, how many times they've rejected it and they've
chose violence instead, I think the history speaks for itself.
But thank you so much for your time, Sarah, have
a great rest of your evening.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
Well.
Speaker 3 (38:28):
Coming up after the break, you will not believe the
hypocrisy of the Democrats. My guest, Jessica Burbank will talk
through all things us. Joining me now is political commentator
Jessica Burbank.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
Democrat Rep.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
Maxine Waters is calling for the twenty fifth Amendment to
be used against Trump.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
Have a look.
Speaker 9 (38:52):
It is time to call for Article twenty five of
the Constitution of the United States of America to determine
his unfitness, to determine that something's wrong with this president.
Speaker 3 (39:07):
Isn't it a bit ironic for the Democrats to be
calling Trump unfit when they had a barely conscious Joe
Biden in the White House for the last four years.
In fact, this was her just over a year ago,
last July, talking about why she was such a strong
Biden backup.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
I believe that he believed that he can do the job.
I believe he has.
Speaker 9 (39:32):
Been fair, not only with the Black community, but with
the people.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
Of this country.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
Isn't it just the height of hypocrisy.
Speaker 12 (39:42):
I don't know if Maxine Waters was close enough to
the White House to know what Biden was doing, then.
I do know that many people had taken meetings in
the White House ahead of the debate, ahead of the
typical primary season here in America, and they did not
decide that Biden was unfit to run, despite observing he
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was unfit to run. I remember that night of the debate.
I said, we haven't seen Joe Biden speak for longer
than a few minutes. We genuinely don't even know if
it can.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
Complete a sentence.
Speaker 12 (40:14):
And that night we were surprised, some of us, to
see that he couldn't. But yeah, I think that the
calls coming from inside the house. Maxine Waters herself is
eighty seven. Our Congress is incredibly old. There's been a
reluctancy to let new voices lead, and I think the
Democratic Party really needs to do that. That being said,
if he's unfit, he should be out. But it is
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a little bit difficult when you sort of let Biden
run again and us blow right through the primary season
even though he was unfit for office. So I really
wish we had someone who was calling for him to
step down delivering this message.
Speaker 2 (40:48):
Yeah, exactly. Look, I want to turn to New York now.
Speaker 3 (40:51):
Newpolling suggests Andrew Kuoimo could bait Mamdani if the other
candidates in the rice dropped out, Kuoimo would bait Mama
fifty two to forty one percent. But at the moment,
doesn't seem like they're going to be pulling out. So
how do you say this race playing out?
Speaker 12 (41:09):
Yeah, I'd have to see the polling to see the
margin of error and see who they talk to. We've
seen polling be incredibly wrong in the United States because
typically they're calling landlines, and not only do people not
have landlines, people don't answer the phone, and the type
of person to answer the phone to a random number
is a specific kind of person. And I think we've
(41:29):
got to be careful about how much we learn about
the race. From these numbers, we've really got to dig
into how they're done. So i'd have to see the
pole to comment on that specifically, But I really think
Zorn's bottled lightning. We saw thousands of people show up
to a scavenger hunt. It was a it was not
even a political action day. It was just a fun
(41:50):
event with Zorron. So liking Zorn is something that's become
sort of a movement more than just a campaign. And
you know, someone that's running on progressive policies when America's
more expensive than ever, when we've seen rent go up
time and time again, and median income not be enough
to get by in New York or most cities in America,
(42:12):
and to have someone speak to that means he's reached
people all across the country, not just in New York.
Cuomo being soft on a lot of those issues I
think has set him up to fail.
Speaker 3 (42:25):
Look, Zara Mamdani previously called for New York to defund
their police. He now seems to be backtracking, and he's
actually tried reaching out to them, so I guess win
their votes, But is anyone actually falling for this? You
can just go through his Twitter to see years of
progressive talking points, particularly around police.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
How is this actually.
Speaker 3 (42:49):
Electable in New York when crime is such an issue.
Speaker 12 (42:54):
I think Mamdani is incredibly electable in New York, specifically
because crime is an issue. We've seen police budgets be
doubled with additional costs. Right now, the New York City
police budget is five point eight billion, with projected spending
at eleven billion due to increased incurred costs, so lawsuits,
(43:14):
incidental expenses, overspending, it's ridiculous. And we're seeing homicide clearance
rates dropped during COVID. Now they've recovered, but we still
see homicide clearance rates at about eighty percent for white
people and fifty three percent for black people in New York.
So there are some racial issues in the policing system.
Speaker 2 (43:34):
Still.
Speaker 12 (43:34):
Zo Round's always been vocal about that that disparity needs
to be addressed. And as far as I'm concerned, when
we're seeing this much spending on police and only forty
percent of major crimes getting solved, we've got to think
a little bit differently about how we keep people safe
and how we address crime in a city like New York.
(43:56):
Are we going to instead of sending someone who does
doesn't have a law degree with a gun to a
house to respond to a mental health crisis, when we
could instead be sending someone who's a social worker, someone
who's a psychiatrist, who could diffuse that situation where there's
not a crime being done but help is needed. And
so I think it's good that he's thinking creatively about
(44:17):
these ideas. But I think he understands very well that
the defund the police message didn't communicate exactly what I
just described. People instead imagined like a GTA lobby becoming
of New York, just people running around committing crimes, a
lawless wasteland. And so I think he's right to say,
(44:38):
you know, this title didn't describe the policy accurately, so
we should call criminal justice reforms that are progressive something else.
Speaker 3 (44:46):
But at the same time, I really understand the argument
that for the last ten years New York has been
run by Democrat mes. So if there are issues with
things like rental availability, policing, and then you say, well,
we want to break the system, isn't the system democrats
running the city. So wouldn't the alternative be to elect
(45:07):
a Republican or a conservative mayor instead of launching even
further to the left and essentially doubling down on failure.
Speaker 12 (45:16):
There's a big difference, I would say, between someone like
Zorn and your standard establishment democrat like Cuomo, like Eric Adams.
Someone like Zorn is not afraid to talk about working
people's wages being low and wanting to invest in worker power.
When Cuomo's having fundraisers with major corporate donors and rubbing
shoulders with the elites at parties, He's not going to
(45:38):
be thinking about the little guy in New York, no
matter how many times he delivers that message scripted for
him in an ad. Someone like Zorn who stood up
and joined the taxi cab workers on a hunger strike
when Bloomberg raised the price of a taxi medallion to
one million dollars, that's someone who understands the fight for
working people. So I don't don't see the only alternative
(46:02):
to these establishment democrats as conservatives or Republicans. We have
a whole host of political ideas, and sometimes when you
go further to the left, it doesn't mean being more
of a democrat, it means different ideas entirely. And that's
really what Zorn brings to the table. Is not just
different policies, but actually a different mentality when it comes
(46:23):
to governing and delivering on promises for working people.
Speaker 3 (46:27):
Very interesting and it'll be interesting to see how the
race plays out. But I want to bring your attention
to Julia Robertson's new film After the Hunt. It was
screened at the Venice Film Festival this week and it's
received backlash from some sections of the left wing media. Apparently,
attendees complain that it revives old arguments about women making
false allegations of sexual assault, but Julia roberts said, that's
(46:50):
the point. Let's spark a conversation, and the tagline of
the movie poster says, not everything is supposed to make
you feel comfortable. So why is it that some topics
are totally off limits and we can't even talk about them.
I thought the left did stand for freedom of speech.
Speaker 12 (47:11):
Yeah, I haven't seen the movie. I've got to see
the movie to understand what they're talking about. But I
think Julia roberts In saying you know, I'm not going
to directly speak on this was merely heard saying you know,
the art speaks for itself, which I totally understand. You
put a message in a movie. If every person who
made a movie said this is why I made the
movie because this is what I want you to think,
(47:31):
going to the movies would be incredibly boring. So I'm
glad she didn't say anything about it actually and let
the film speak for itself. But as far as you know,
sparking a conversation, some members of the left aren't all
of the left, just like some members of the right
aren't all of the right. I think there's a group
of insufferable people that are across the entire political spectrum
that will find something wrong with everything. And I call
(47:54):
these people the miserable, and they're not principled, they don't
care about free speech. They just want to find something
wrong with everything, and that's how I would categorize these people.
I think it's important to have these conversations around sexual
assault because it's still a problem today that women do
not believe other women when cases of sexual assault and allegations.
Speaker 2 (48:13):
Are brought forward.
Speaker 12 (48:14):
And so we've got to get to a place where
we're engaging with each other in good faith and we're
looking for evidence, and people are allowed to have free
conversations about some of these extremely difficult subjects.
Speaker 2 (48:25):
Do I expect.
Speaker 12 (48:26):
Julia Roberts to be a thought leader. No, I expect
her to be a movie maker. And that's enough for me.
Speaker 2 (48:32):
Yeah, that's exactly right. Well, thank you so much for
your time, Jessica.
Speaker 12 (48:36):
Yes, thanks for having me.
Speaker 3 (48:38):
Well this makes Fruitcake is MSNBC former host Joy Read,
who actually brags about being a DEI high.
Speaker 2 (48:45):
I actually am very much in favor of DEI.
Speaker 3 (48:48):
I don't take that as an insult because I understand
that that means that I'm just damn excellent and innovative,
and yeah, I am DEI. Well, I think we can
all agree she clearly was not hired for her intelligence.
Speaker 2 (49:00):
That's all from me. I'll see you
Speaker 3 (49:01):
Tomorrow night on the Late Today, But stay tuned because
up next is Dneka and James
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