November 24, 2025 • 36 mins
Manny Machado tired badly at the end of the 2025 season and will be 34 next year. Kyle Glaser and Mike Cameron discuss how the San Diego Padres should manage Machado's workload in 2026, including whether DH days actually provide requisite rest, why 150 games should be his target, and how first-year manager Craig Stammen can mitigate pushback from Machado about taking days off.
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Welcome into another edition of Friar Territory. Here on the
Foul Territory Network, I'm Kyle Glazer alongside the great Mike Cameron.
Mike free agency is in full swing. Qualifying offers have
been accepted and declined, the non tender deadline has passed.
It's starting to get a bit busy in Major League Baseball.
I have to ask as a player, when you were
(00:29):
a free agent, did you like this time? Did it
make you nervous? Like? What's this moment like?
Speaker 2 (00:34):
As a player, If you're one of the best players,
it's really fun. But if you're very.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Serviceable and and and I mean just throughout, it's a
it's a very trying time as a player because look, man,
you're you're you're trying to find a new home. I
never I was never good at wanting.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
To well first and foremost.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Most guys that have these ginormous opportunities kind of wait
till the last minute to do it.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
So I never was a player that liked to be
hanging out.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
I still I did my research on teams that I
could possibly fit on. I talked to people, and I
was gonna make my decision based on those parameters. And
maybe a few other things that could possibly you know,
a city or whatever it is. You know, I was
(01:35):
very fortunate to be able to play for a very
long time, and and you know, I got a chance
to choose two places that I wanted to play in,
and a lot of those things go into it, and
a lot of guys don't really get those opportunities. You
have to look at and view it from the perspective
of how it benefits you and where.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
You know it serves you best.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
When I left Seattle, I had the opportunity to play
in San Diego when it first opened, also Oakland, but uh,
and I wanted to stay in Seattle, and they were
under a new regime as far as like general manager
and everything else. And so if I couldn't stay in
(02:25):
the Northwest, then I was gonna come back close to east,
which I did go to New York, New York Mets.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
And it was an opportunity for me. I mean it was.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
It was more about based on, you know, not the
dollar amount, but the fact that I got.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
A chance my grandmother to see me play every day.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
It wasn't at ten o'clock at night when she got
a chance to see me, but she got chance. I
knew playing in New York, I was gonna get a
chance to go back to Atlanta three at least three times.
And then it's just you know the opportunity of you know,
going to New York man and just seeing what it
is all about. You know, I had the opportunity to
(03:04):
stay out with but I felt like it was an.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Opportunity for me to be to come back home close
to home, but also experienced it.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Although the team wasn't that good, I mean it was,
I mean, I mean my second my second year, that
was good, but it was under unforseen circumstances that you know,
I got hurt a little bit. Yeah, but you know,
so so yeah, I mean it is what it.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Is again, all different circumstances. Every player is going to
have different things they prioritize, and we will see what
the Potters end up doing in free agency. As we've discussed,
there's gonna be limited payroll room. Given they were at
two hundred and eleven million dollars last year, you're currently
projected at two hundred and one million dollars with the
uncertainty about ownership. Generally speaking, this is we when we
see teams try to reduce expenditures, not increase them. We
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have talked a lot about the players the Padres need
to add this offseason, and should add both in terms
of the lineup and on the pitching staff. But in
order for the Potters to be the best version of themselves,
there also has to be internal improvements, and the biggest
name involved there is Manny Machado. As we've discussed many, many,
(04:15):
many many times, Manny Machado is a bit of a
lightning rod, speaking strictly in terms of on the field production. Look,
he remains a Hall of Fame caliber player who is
capable of carrying his team through big chunks of the season.
At the same time, he's getting older. He's thirty three,
he will turn thirty four in July. He's posted three
(04:36):
straight sub eight hundred ops seasons. His home run total
has declined each of the last three years. Father Time
is undefeated, and we are starting to see a little
bit of that age related decline. At the same time,
he's someone who loves to play every day, but we
have started to see he's not able to really stay
strong through a full one hundred and fifty two game season. Mike,
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you live this. You were a star player, wanted to
be out there every day. But you know, rest recovery
changes as you get older, a lot of things change.
How do you think the Potters can get the best
version of Manny Machado in twenty twenty six? Is it
having him play only one hundred and forty five games?
Is it having him played one fifty five? What's the
best way for them to manage his workload so that
(05:18):
he can stay strong through the full season when he's
going to be thirty four years old.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
You know, I mean just I've been as as you
brought this about.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
I started looking at some of the things that Manny
going on in his career, and he's Look, the guy
has finished you know, five out of the last seven years,
he's played one hundred and fifty games.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
He's on the dirt. He the two years he didn't play,
he played one thirty eight and twenty three, and.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
He plays basically sixty in that in that twenty twenty campaign.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Right, So the one thing that I look at from him,
you know, is where has his injury deficiencies been for him?
Speaker 3 (05:59):
You know, like what has bothered many It's been a
knee and I think it's been a back maybe or
something like that, maybe a shoulder at one point. But
so we're gonna have to acceptment's gonna have to step
in and take the bullish many aside and say, hey, man,
the best version of you for our team moving forward.
(06:19):
I'm gonna have to d HU fifteen to twenty games,
you know, I need to d H you and take
you off your feet a little bit. And then within
those games, it just it just matters to where Many's
gonna have to be honest, and most baseball players are
(06:39):
not honest. Women bullish about going to the post on
a daily basis, and that's what he's known for. But
in order to get the best version of him, we
need to take him off off his legs a little
bit and give him the opportunity to be as productive
as he can for this team.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
And that's actually an interesting point to your Manny Machado
played one hundred and forty five games at third base
and fourteen games oft DH and we'll get into what
happened at the end of the season a second. But
does just dhing actually do what it needs to do
in terms of helping a player, particularly something in their thirties,
get the full rest and recovery and reset they need,
because yes, you're off your feet at the same time,
(07:19):
you know, four or five at bats a game, you're
on the base pass, you're you know, battling competitive abs.
Does it really provide that much of a rest for guys,
especially at this age, or do they really need to
be off off.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
I think there's a there's a balance of both. Cal
In the case of man It, it's gonna be hard
to just keep him on the bench, you know what
I'm saying, because this is one of your players. What
you're gonna have to do is pick your sacks. Yea
more so towards the middle of the well the All
Star break, middle of the season, after the All Star break,
(07:56):
when you get it too, those dog days, that's when
it's more important for a guy to actually still be
involved with your team and your lone up by putting
him in the DH role just to give his lower
back to the rest some of the knee issues that
he had. The strength, your strength in the second half
(08:16):
of the season, especially for a guy Manny's caliber, is
very important to once again the line up and his team.
So there's a happy balance with that situation. And then
sometimes you just don't have like day day at the night,
you just have to give him off, like hey man,
(08:37):
we need to like we need to just get off,
get off your feet. We're not gonna bother you unless
there's acute emergency going on right then and there on
the team.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
So you know that's that's gonna have to come into play.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
I understand that because no many plays third and he's
done this over a period of time play Center well
into my late thirties, and it's important, you know, I didn't.
You don't understand it because you're programmed to go, go, go,
go go.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
And battle through everything and just post.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
But uh, product productivity wise is sometimes beneficial for you
to just you know, have those mental days or just
body days.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Man.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
And we have to understand that at this particular point
in his career, knowing that, man, this guy's been one
hundred and fifty plus game guy for about twelve years now.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
So it's hard. It's hard. It's hard on the body.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Bro Absolutely. We have a lot more to discuss here
about this, including some details that moving into about his
history and where the clubhouse portion of this comes into play.
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and check it all out. Mike continuing on with Manny Machado,
(11:16):
you're right giving him some dhds. That's certainly something the
Padres need to do and have done. The concern is
what we saw last year. Again, he turned thirty three
during the year, and he's going to turn thirty four
next year. The Padres did that, played one hundred and
forty five games at third fourteen games DH, but they
kept running him out there. And even with those DH breaks,
we saw him have one hundred and twenty games where
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he was excellent, carrying the team, doing everything he could offensively,
and then he completely and utterly ran out of gas.
There was about a six week stretch there where objectively
he was one of the worst tears in baseball. He
hit a bucks seventy six with a sub six hundred
OPS and it was a case study in what hitters
look like when they are gassed, it's an all upper
(11:59):
body swim. He had nothing in his legs, his that
path was trailing behind him. He was late on ninety
three mile hour fastballs. When he got hanging breaking balls
and was on time, they were shallow fly balls to
left field. I mean he had nothing. He had zero
left in the tank. And they kept running him out
there again and again and again, to the point it
hurt the team and we were in the clubhouse asking hey,
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when are you gonna do this. I was like, well,
you know, it's too late. We're chasing Dodgers. I'm sorry.
Every game they were running him out there, they were
hurting their chances of captain Dodgers, and they never seemed
to comprehend that. Whether it's Man himself or the coaching staff,
no one stepped up and did what they needed to
do and say, no, you need to take a day again,
day game after a night game, then we have a
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day off. Give him that forty eight hours and what
do you know when they finally gave him a day
off there toward the end of mid September, he came
back a lot better. So I think for the Padres,
what you have to do this year is going saying hey,
we are going to build an off days throughout the year. Look,
it's a twenty seven and a half week season. If
he just takes one game off every two weeks, he
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still plays one hundred and fifty games. No one would
look askance at Manny for playing one hundred and fifty
games at age thirty four, like, oh, you didn't last
and the Potters will be better for it. So I think,
at least from my perspective, you have to build the
sin at the start of the season and say hey,
every two weeks we're giving you a day. You know,
this is what we're doing, and you need to get
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on board with it, because he needs to have the
awareness that at his age, trying to play one sixty
two is not what's best for him and it's not
what's best for the team. I mean, do you think
that's the threat approach? You know, one day off every
two weeks. Do you kind of evenly distribute it, do
you backload it more to the second half. What's the
best way to handle this in your mind, because again,
(13:43):
I'm sorry, playing one sixty two at age thirty four,
you're just not going to get the best version of
mannit you're just not.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
So one of my biggest things is understanding the type
of injuries that he's.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
Had to keep him out a lot of times.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
But this was an injury, this was pure Yeah, yeah, exactly, Yeah, definitely, definitely, definitely.
So defatigue is there partly due because of father time
and maybe some of the things he's already gone through
that he's had to continue to rehab to make sure
he stays on the field. I agree with you in
a sense that you know, you can build some days
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in to where it turns into two days off for guys.
There's gonna be some night game day games at the
night games where it's hot in a city.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Uh. You just you need to see a guy down
and and.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
And it's for the benefit of the team, and so
many needs to understand.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
It can't be stubborn. Uh. The one thing he can
look at from looking.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
Back on the season, although he had a really good
season minus those four or five weeks that you're talking
about right now, you end up having a really good
season for the team. So I see this as an
opportunity for him to say, Okay, that's sick. We stretched
that six week stretch man was rough on me, and
why was it rough on me?
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Why was it so hard on me?
Speaker 3 (15:03):
And it's probably because of just wear and tear man.
Just like your body is worn mentally. The guys that
played fourteen fifteen years that post every day. Mentally, they're
able to push theirselves to do it, but sometimes the
body just doesn't show up, and you need both of
them to connect at the same time. And just a
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day off here and there, just a day after the
night game, day off where it kind of gives you
a whole day and a half off because you're going
into the next day, probably in a night game. So
it is crucial at this point that many understands that
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the management understands that.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
And Stemming, he's got some big shoes to step in
to say, hey, this is what we went through last year.
We don't need to have that happen anymore.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
We need to have you as bull strength and healthy
as possible going down the stretch as we continue to
try to chase you another standing championship season, and you're
very important to this particular part of it, and we're
going to need you to, you know, kind of take
a few days.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Here and there and you mentioned a very important point
that Manny can't be stubborn. Manny Machado's we've talked about,
has a lot of good traits and a lot of
traits that are not great. He is very stubborn in
terms of posting. And on the one hand, look, you
want that. You want your stars to want to be
out there every single day. You want them to be
the guy who fights their injury sets the example. That's great,
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and you want that to be the baseline, but there
also needs to be an awareness of, hey, I cannot
perform at a level right now that's going to help
the team win, and me being out there actively hurts
the team. And I want to go back to twenty
twenty two when he suffered a horrendous s brand ankle
in Colorado that was a read a six week injury.
Everyone knew it. You see similar injuries like that all
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the time in Major League Baseball. He refused to go
on the il and so for ten days, the Padres
roster was a man short. They had games to play.
He was actively hurting the team by they were a
man short on their roster for ten days, and then
he forced his way back and guess what, for those
next five weeks after he came back because he had
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no stability in that ankle. He hit one ninety four
with a six seventy seven ops. And then what do
you know, at the six week mark, which is when
that thing heals, he picked it back up and was
great again. So again we've seen him, to the detriment
of the team, insists he plays. And that was a
case to me where I thought it was actually extraordinarily
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poor management on the podres part where they need to
step in and say no, you're going on the IL.
I know you hate it, but this is what's best
for the team. And again we saw last year it
was clear to anyway again scouts, Pottery's executives, anyone and
everyone who's watching he needed a day. I mean the
fact they didn't give him a day in that first
week of September when that a day game after night
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game and followed by East Coast road trip, that was
honestly grossness management. But again, Manny is such a forceful,
strong presence. Too often they've deferred to him. So my
question with you now is with Craig Stammon, a first
year manager, how do you go about this because there's
going to be a point where you're there gonna want
to say you need a day, and he's going to
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fight back.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Yeah. So now the one way you can go about
this is stemming.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
He can actually start to introduce this like right now,
you know what I'm saying. Look, there's no pressure right
there and there's nothing going on. I don't know if
Manny is planning on participating in the World Baseball Classic,
but you know he can't establish this like starting right
now with his veteran and making sure many understands it. Look,
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even if you have to, sometimes you have to get
like the agent involved in these particular matters, you know.
I mean in Stammon's case, I think he can kind
of set his precedents like right now with man and like,
hey man, this is what we saw over six weeks.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
I know you understand.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
That we need for you to be, you know, in
a much mature, mature mindset and taking care of yourself.
And this is how we're going to try to take
care of you. What are your thoughts? How do you
feel about this? And then we can start going back
and forth with dialogue to try to get this in
his best case scenario moving forward in the team, because
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there's gonna be a couple of times on the field
where he's.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Gonna be like, hey, you got day off tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
Man, they may hit two homers that night and be like,
brow yes, fighting chance, Yes, yes, I'm gonna give you
a fighting chance, because you've earned the right for that.
But at the same time, we're still managing you for
the pretty much this second half of the season. Bro,
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that's what we need you for. And you can fight
me all you want, but at the end of the day,
this is what it is.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
And I want to be clear, Right, I talked about
twenty twenty two where he missed ten days and have
that terrible stretch. Even with that, he was the MVP
runner up. He had a fantastic season. So imagine if
he had not done that, he would have had even
better year and even last year. Right, we talked about
this bad stretch. I want to give him around. He
carried this Potters offense that couldn't hit a lick for
the first half, or most of the first half, I
(20:36):
should say, he carried them on his back for one
hundred and twenty games. He was a top five MVP
caliber player and then the drop off happened. So again,
this is about getting the best version of Manny Machado.
And I think that. I mean, look, everyone would say, yeah,
I would rather have one hundred and fifty great games
of Manny Machado than one hundred twenty great games and
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forty bad games. But he's out there every day. That's
what's gonna be best for him, that's gonna be what's
best for the potter is And I think that to
me is going to be the number one thing I'm
gonna be watching with Craig Stalmon in his first year.
We've talked about it. Craig Stalmmon is a tremendous baseball mind.
He is a natural leader. He was as a player,
he stepped up as a spokesperson for the team during
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COVID and time of crisis, and he's also a genuinely
just a great man. There are so many things like
about Craig Stalmon. But this is the question is when
you have one of these stars that was your peer,
that was your teammate, Look many Micheld's gonna look at
Craig Stalmmon different than he would look at say a
Joe Girardi.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Joe Walter.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
He just is Oh no doubt. Can Craig Stalmon and
the rest of the Potters coaching staff and the rest
of the Potters from office, when there's that moment stand
their ground and say no, you gotta sit and have
him respect that. To me, that is going to be
the number one thing to watch this season because if
the answers no and they have a repeat, especially given
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that right now the Potters are probably going to have
less talent this year than they have last year, it's
gonna hurt the entire team for the whole for the
season what they're going to be at the end of
the year. Whereas if they manage him better and say, hey,
you're just gonna play one to fifty, but you're gonna
be great for those one fifty because you're gonna be
rested throughout the year. That's what's going to give them
a fighting chance. And again, Manny's going to push back
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against that. I think this is the single biggest test
for Craig Stalmon and his staff is that they're able
to stand their ground and also do so in a
way where they don't lose him. Because we have seen
Manny be a great leader at times. We have also
seen him check out at times when he's frustrated. That
to me, is going to be the key to the season.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
Yeah, yeah, I do think that.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
You know, Stamon has, like I said, he has a
great opportunity to start to start.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
To intertwine with his very seasoned veteran and understand what
Many I'm sure Craig.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
Has been sending up in the box a few times
and they've been on meetings that we understand that and
we understand what Many is per se and it's going
to be up to him, like right now to start
introducing it into Manny's mind, Like you're still gonna get
your one hundred and fifty, buddy, but we're we're trying
(23:20):
to reduce the stress level on your body so you
can give us your best in those one hundred and fifty,
which we know out of that one fifty, probably twenty
five thirty.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Forty of them not gonna be good.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
You know what I'm saying, Like everyone goes through right.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
Exactly exactly, so you know, we're just trying to manage
as much as possible.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
I don't know what Many workout routine is.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
I don't know if he's a big, you know, weight
training guy, over the course of the season, understood that,
you know, as a player, as I got older and
me still having to use my legs a lot, that
I needed to work a little bit more in, you know,
during the season in the gym. So it's important to
understand those aspects of it because look, they still have
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him for what another four or five years, I mean
maybe six or something, so it's going to be up
to him to take care of himself.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
And then that's where.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
The the the the maturity from just not being a
veteran but a veteran leader in a sense, to where
this guy is on board with what's going on because
I'm going to be here, pretty say, I'm going to
be here for the next three years. I plan on it,
and I need I know you're going to be here
(24:38):
for the next three years. So hey man, let's hash
this out. Let's get ourselves in the right right frame
of mind and start to you know, play, be a
little bit smarter on how we're going to take care
of our things so your production remains at the level
that men and Machado would like for it to remain at.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
By the way, it's not four or five years. He
has eight years left on his contract. So what Yes,
he is signed through his age forty one, when he'll
be forty one at the end of the contract when
they re upt the when he opted out and they
gave him another ten year deal, So yes, they are
going to have him now through his age forty one season.
(25:17):
So establishing this now is gonna help this year and
in future years because this is this is again Father
Times undefeated. There's going to be a stretch of ups
and downs, and as the age really starts to pick up,
they're going to have to manage this even more. So
we'll see what they do this year. But you're right
starting the process now of establishing now. Here's how we're
(25:38):
gonna do this. That's what needs to happen. We'll see
if the Padres do all right, Mike, we have a
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Speaker 1 (26:50):
You all right, Mike to wrap up the show here.
The non tender deadline was last week and the Padres
tender contracts to most of their arbitration eligible players that
works back.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
The big question would.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
Be was what were they going to do with Louis Campusano.
We talked about Campusano a lot on the show, how
he was raking triple A. There are opportunities to give
him at bats. The Potters did not do it. The
Potters ended up agreeing to a one year contract with him,
so he will be back in twenty twenty six. A. J.
Peler has said they expect to have to have him
(27:25):
be a quote unquote big part of the team. Where
are you at on Louis Campusano and what the right
role for him is now with the Potters given everything
we've talked about, you know, the catching leaving something to
be desired. The bat's good, but he needs every day
at bats. The fact they brought him back I thought
was interesting. Where are you on just him and his
place on this team right now?
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (27:49):
You know, I think it's one of these situations where
they need catching, you know, they need to help in
the catching department. Yes, Campusano presents opportunity for him to
actually you know, he's well, he swings the bat pretty
good for a right handed guy, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
So, yeah, he has he has that power potential.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
But in this case, you know, like you're you're probably
gonna need someone with the balance of both where you
can actually have a receiver that can help out the
pictures and that in that case, and Campusano gives them
you know, some some uh opportunity for some insurance, but
also potential, you know what I'm saying, Like, there's there's
(28:38):
potential there. That's a reason why you know, the team
brought him back considering the market is is kind of
like really low from the catching perspective, so you know,
and they're familiar with Campusano. Uh So it's definitely gonna
be a plus in that category. But we'll just have
to find out, you know, what roster decisions the team
(29:02):
will make as far as maybe bringing in a real
starting pitcher.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
We don't know what the team may do in disposition.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
Yeah, at this point, Freddy Farmen's are starting catchers. So
just to kind of, you know, go over all their
decisions in terms of who they tendered contracts to and
the non tenders as well. They tendered contracts to their
six arbitration eligible players Jason Adam, Mason Miller, Audrin morehone
JP series, Freddy Fermin, and Gavin Sheets. Again, there's no
question with those they non tendered Omar Cruz and Sean
(29:31):
Reynolds two depth pieces. Who are you know, relievers that
you know have some value, but again their depth pieces
and of course agreeing to that one year contract with Campusano.
Where this is interesting to me is we have talked
about the Padres need to upgrade their offense, but they
at least have the bodies to fill out, you know,
a starting nine. They have limited funds and they need
(29:55):
minimum to starting pitchers and realistically three. So I thought
this was interesting the sense of bring him back and
you can go to that with Gavin Sheets at first,
Jake Cronaworth at second, Xander Bogert's short Machado at third,
Loreano Merrill Tatis across the outfield, and campus On is
your DH. You can throw that starting lineup out with
(30:15):
for me as a catcher, again, will it be a
great lineup? No, but it has a chance to be
solid with some internal improvements. And then they would need
to bring in a back of catcher and improve the
bench and that would allow them to put most of
their resources financially into finding starting pitchers. So I saw
this a little bit as a hey, we understand where
(30:35):
our biggest holes are. This is going to just let
us potentially plug a hole in the offense while we
can go use more of our funds on pitchers. That's
how I saw this move. And as I've talked about
for a while, Luise campus Ono as a DH he
can help a team. I have said for a while,
it would not shock me if you know, we see
(30:56):
him hitting two sixty with twenty to twenty five bombs
some whether it's in Sande or elsewhere, kind of what
Gavin Sheets was for the Potters last year as a hitter.
Louise Campusano can do that. He has that ability. Yeah,
So again, I think it's a situation where I'll be
curious to see if they actually give him every day
at bats, and if they do, it has to be
at DH because otherwise bringing them back just doesn't make
(31:17):
a lot of sense. You kind of got to let
them be free and go somewhere. Well, we'll get a chance.
So that's what I want to see. That's and that's
how I took it as Hey, we're going to try
and fill our offensive holes internally as much as we
can because we've got ten million dollars to play with
to match Laster's payroll and a lot of starting pitching
holes to fill. We got to use it for that.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
Yeah, you know, if you're looking at it from death perspective,
you definitely can do that.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
I would like, you know, to see the team simply.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
You know, go over a little bit out of their
range to bring in the type of players that they
need to compete in it in the West. You know,
in itself, I think Arizona may be taking a step back.
We obviously know the doctors are not taking a step
back in the West.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
And and so you know, Colorado is Colorado. But you know,
you don't want to stop this kind of this run
that we're on.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
And and your your your your main guys are getting older,
you know, uh as or they're becoming more season as
you know, these seasons go on and and so you
need to be uphold it. And and that's what the
understanding that we're gonna still try to win because we
have all of this money on payroll right now, and
(32:39):
and and I do understand from management position that they're
possimply exploring the opportunity of selling the team.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
But we still don't just want to just throw this
all to the wayside.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
We still have a chance to be competitive in this
league right now, because you know, we we know we
can compete in the West.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
We've shown that we can compete.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
In the WIST and it is now is you know
how other teams start to formulate their rosters and what
they do in the expectable season of certain teams. So yes,
you would like to for of those things to take place,
but the most important thing is is making sure that
you have a formidable and reputable team that can compete.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
In this position that the team has been put in
right now.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
You know, we talk about the non tenders. The one
that caught my eye as a good fit for the
Potters potentially again, the money has to be right, Jonaheim.
A lot of people were looking at Adelis Garcia as
the biggest nontender from the Rangers' perspective, and understandably, he
has been an electrifying player at his best both at
the plate and in right field with that arm. It's ridiculous.
(33:48):
But jonah Hian is a switch hitting catcher who is
a pretty good defender. He's a big guy, but he's
actually a pretty good defender. Double digit home run powered
every single year. I mean to me, that's a perfect
compliment to ready for me and you go for me
and him behind the plate, campus's or DH. That's just
one that kind of caught my eye. Again, the money
would have to be right. You don't want to spend
a lot of money on him, But I think that
(34:10):
realistically is going to be the best version of the
Potters offenses. Using campus On as a DH and bringing
in a backup catcher that will make the Potters the
best team offensively and defensively. And again, he can be
your emergency third catcher. You know, he got some time
at first base last year on you know, days where
Sheets needs a day off or just the matchup for
whatever reason. Again, I think there are ways to get
(34:31):
him at bats, but the Potters need to actually do it,
giving him consistent at bats as opposed to this three
at bats in three weeks, then we send you back down.
That doesn't do anyone, yea, the team or him. We'll
see how he's managed. But I did think it was
interestingly brought him back.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
Mike.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
Any final thoughts as we wrap up here on this
Thanksgiving week edition of Friar Territory.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
Not much man, just you know, hopefully everyone gets a
chance to enjoy.
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You know, this Thanksgiving festive season. You know, and and
and and.
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Mike free agency is in full swing. Qualifying offers have
been accepted and declined, the non tender deadline has passed.
It's starting to get a bit busy in Major League Baseball.
I have to ask as a player, when you were
(00:29):
a free agent, did you like this time? Did it
make you nervous? Like? What's this moment like?
Speaker 2 (00:34):
As a player, If you're one of the best players,
it's really fun. But if you're very.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Serviceable and and and I mean just throughout, it's a
it's a very trying time as a player because look, man,
you're you're you're trying to find a new home. I
never I was never good at wanting.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
To well first and foremost.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Most guys that have these ginormous opportunities kind of wait
till the last minute to do it.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
So I never was a player that liked to be
hanging out.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
I still I did my research on teams that I
could possibly fit on. I talked to people, and I
was gonna make my decision based on those parameters. And
maybe a few other things that could possibly you know,
a city or whatever it is. You know, I was
(01:35):
very fortunate to be able to play for a very
long time, and and you know, I got a chance
to choose two places that I wanted to play in,
and a lot of those things go into it, and
a lot of guys don't really get those opportunities. You
have to look at and view it from the perspective
of how it benefits you and where.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
You know it serves you best.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
When I left Seattle, I had the opportunity to play
in San Diego when it first opened, also Oakland, but uh,
and I wanted to stay in Seattle, and they were
under a new regime as far as like general manager
and everything else. And so if I couldn't stay in
(02:25):
the Northwest, then I was gonna come back close to east,
which I did go to New York, New York Mets.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
And it was an opportunity for me. I mean it was.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
It was more about based on, you know, not the
dollar amount, but the fact that I got.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
A chance my grandmother to see me play every day.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
It wasn't at ten o'clock at night when she got
a chance to see me, but she got chance. I
knew playing in New York, I was gonna get a
chance to go back to Atlanta three at least three times.
And then it's just you know the opportunity of you know,
going to New York man and just seeing what it
is all about. You know, I had the opportunity to
(03:04):
stay out with but I felt like it was an.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Opportunity for me to be to come back home close
to home, but also experienced it.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Although the team wasn't that good, I mean it was,
I mean, I mean my second my second year, that
was good, but it was under unforseen circumstances that you know,
I got hurt a little bit. Yeah, but you know,
so so yeah, I mean it is what it.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Is again, all different circumstances. Every player is going to
have different things they prioritize, and we will see what
the Potters end up doing in free agency. As we've discussed,
there's gonna be limited payroll room. Given they were at
two hundred and eleven million dollars last year, you're currently
projected at two hundred and one million dollars with the
uncertainty about ownership. Generally speaking, this is we when we
see teams try to reduce expenditures, not increase them. We
(03:55):
have talked a lot about the players the Padres need
to add this offseason, and should add both in terms
of the lineup and on the pitching staff. But in
order for the Potters to be the best version of themselves,
there also has to be internal improvements, and the biggest
name involved there is Manny Machado. As we've discussed many, many,
(04:15):
many many times, Manny Machado is a bit of a
lightning rod, speaking strictly in terms of on the field production. Look,
he remains a Hall of Fame caliber player who is
capable of carrying his team through big chunks of the season.
At the same time, he's getting older. He's thirty three,
he will turn thirty four in July. He's posted three
(04:36):
straight sub eight hundred ops seasons. His home run total
has declined each of the last three years. Father Time
is undefeated, and we are starting to see a little
bit of that age related decline. At the same time,
he's someone who loves to play every day, but we
have started to see he's not able to really stay
strong through a full one hundred and fifty two game season. Mike,
(04:57):
you live this. You were a star player, wanted to
be out there every day. But you know, rest recovery
changes as you get older, a lot of things change.
How do you think the Potters can get the best
version of Manny Machado in twenty twenty six? Is it
having him play only one hundred and forty five games?
Is it having him played one fifty five? What's the
best way for them to manage his workload so that
(05:18):
he can stay strong through the full season when he's
going to be thirty four years old.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
You know, I mean just I've been as as you
brought this about.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
I started looking at some of the things that Manny
going on in his career, and he's Look, the guy
has finished you know, five out of the last seven years,
he's played one hundred and fifty games.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
He's on the dirt. He the two years he didn't play,
he played one thirty eight and twenty three, and.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
He plays basically sixty in that in that twenty twenty campaign.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Right, So the one thing that I look at from him,
you know, is where has his injury deficiencies been for him?
Speaker 3 (05:59):
You know, like what has bothered many It's been a
knee and I think it's been a back maybe or
something like that, maybe a shoulder at one point. But
so we're gonna have to acceptment's gonna have to step
in and take the bullish many aside and say, hey, man,
the best version of you for our team moving forward.
(06:19):
I'm gonna have to d HU fifteen to twenty games,
you know, I need to d H you and take
you off your feet a little bit. And then within
those games, it just it just matters to where Many's
gonna have to be honest, and most baseball players are
(06:39):
not honest. Women bullish about going to the post on
a daily basis, and that's what he's known for. But
in order to get the best version of him, we
need to take him off off his legs a little
bit and give him the opportunity to be as productive
as he can for this team.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
And that's actually an interesting point to your Manny Machado
played one hundred and forty five games at third base
and fourteen games oft DH and we'll get into what
happened at the end of the season a second. But
does just dhing actually do what it needs to do
in terms of helping a player, particularly something in their thirties,
get the full rest and recovery and reset they need,
because yes, you're off your feet at the same time,
(07:19):
you know, four or five at bats a game, you're
on the base pass, you're you know, battling competitive abs.
Does it really provide that much of a rest for guys,
especially at this age, or do they really need to
be off off.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
I think there's a there's a balance of both. Cal
In the case of man It, it's gonna be hard
to just keep him on the bench, you know what
I'm saying, because this is one of your players. What
you're gonna have to do is pick your sacks. Yea
more so towards the middle of the well the All
Star break, middle of the season, after the All Star break,
(07:56):
when you get it too, those dog days, that's when
it's more important for a guy to actually still be
involved with your team and your lone up by putting
him in the DH role just to give his lower
back to the rest some of the knee issues that
he had. The strength, your strength in the second half
(08:16):
of the season, especially for a guy Manny's caliber, is
very important to once again the line up and his team.
So there's a happy balance with that situation. And then
sometimes you just don't have like day day at the night,
you just have to give him off, like hey man,
(08:37):
we need to like we need to just get off,
get off your feet. We're not gonna bother you unless
there's acute emergency going on right then and there on
the team.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
So you know that's that's gonna have to come into play.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
I understand that because no many plays third and he's
done this over a period of time play Center well
into my late thirties, and it's important, you know, I didn't.
You don't understand it because you're programmed to go, go, go,
go go.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
And battle through everything and just post.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
But uh, product productivity wise is sometimes beneficial for you
to just you know, have those mental days or just
body days.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Man.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
And we have to understand that at this particular point
in his career, knowing that, man, this guy's been one
hundred and fifty plus game guy for about twelve years now.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
So it's hard. It's hard. It's hard on the body.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Bro Absolutely. We have a lot more to discuss here
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you're right giving him some dhds. That's certainly something the
Padres need to do and have done. The concern is
what we saw last year. Again, he turned thirty three
during the year, and he's going to turn thirty four
next year. The Padres did that, played one hundred and
forty five games at third fourteen games DH, but they
kept running him out there. And even with those DH breaks,
we saw him have one hundred and twenty games where
(11:38):
he was excellent, carrying the team, doing everything he could offensively,
and then he completely and utterly ran out of gas.
There was about a six week stretch there where objectively
he was one of the worst tears in baseball. He
hit a bucks seventy six with a sub six hundred
OPS and it was a case study in what hitters
look like when they are gassed, it's an all upper
(11:59):
body swim. He had nothing in his legs, his that
path was trailing behind him. He was late on ninety
three mile hour fastballs. When he got hanging breaking balls
and was on time, they were shallow fly balls to
left field. I mean he had nothing. He had zero
left in the tank. And they kept running him out
there again and again and again, to the point it
hurt the team and we were in the clubhouse asking hey,
(12:20):
when are you gonna do this. I was like, well,
you know, it's too late. We're chasing Dodgers. I'm sorry.
Every game they were running him out there, they were
hurting their chances of captain Dodgers, and they never seemed
to comprehend that. Whether it's Man himself or the coaching staff,
no one stepped up and did what they needed to
do and say, no, you need to take a day again,
day game after a night game, then we have a
(12:40):
day off. Give him that forty eight hours and what
do you know when they finally gave him a day
off there toward the end of mid September, he came
back a lot better. So I think for the Padres,
what you have to do this year is going saying hey,
we are going to build an off days throughout the year. Look,
it's a twenty seven and a half week season. If
he just takes one game off every two weeks, he
(13:02):
still plays one hundred and fifty games. No one would
look askance at Manny for playing one hundred and fifty
games at age thirty four, like, oh, you didn't last
and the Potters will be better for it. So I think,
at least from my perspective, you have to build the
sin at the start of the season and say hey,
every two weeks we're giving you a day. You know,
this is what we're doing, and you need to get
(13:22):
on board with it, because he needs to have the
awareness that at his age, trying to play one sixty
two is not what's best for him and it's not
what's best for the team. I mean, do you think
that's the threat approach? You know, one day off every
two weeks. Do you kind of evenly distribute it, do
you backload it more to the second half. What's the
best way to handle this in your mind, because again,
(13:43):
I'm sorry, playing one sixty two at age thirty four,
you're just not going to get the best version of
mannit you're just not.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
So one of my biggest things is understanding the type
of injuries that he's.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
Had to keep him out a lot of times.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
But this was an injury, this was pure Yeah, yeah, exactly, Yeah, definitely, definitely, definitely.
So defatigue is there partly due because of father time
and maybe some of the things he's already gone through
that he's had to continue to rehab to make sure
he stays on the field. I agree with you in
a sense that you know, you can build some days
(14:20):
in to where it turns into two days off for guys.
There's gonna be some night game day games at the
night games where it's hot in a city.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Uh. You just you need to see a guy down
and and.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
And it's for the benefit of the team, and so
many needs to understand.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
It can't be stubborn. Uh. The one thing he can
look at from looking.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
Back on the season, although he had a really good
season minus those four or five weeks that you're talking
about right now, you end up having a really good
season for the team. So I see this as an
opportunity for him to say, Okay, that's sick. We stretched
that six week stretch man was rough on me, and
why was it rough on me?
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Why was it so hard on me?
Speaker 3 (15:03):
And it's probably because of just wear and tear man.
Just like your body is worn mentally. The guys that
played fourteen fifteen years that post every day. Mentally, they're
able to push theirselves to do it, but sometimes the
body just doesn't show up, and you need both of
them to connect at the same time. And just a
(15:25):
day off here and there, just a day after the
night game, day off where it kind of gives you
a whole day and a half off because you're going
into the next day, probably in a night game. So
it is crucial at this point that many understands that
(15:46):
the management understands that.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
And Stemming, he's got some big shoes to step in
to say, hey, this is what we went through last year.
We don't need to have that happen anymore.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
We need to have you as bull strength and healthy
as possible going down the stretch as we continue to
try to chase you another standing championship season, and you're
very important to this particular part of it, and we're
going to need you to, you know, kind of take
a few days.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Here and there and you mentioned a very important point
that Manny can't be stubborn. Manny Machado's we've talked about,
has a lot of good traits and a lot of
traits that are not great. He is very stubborn in
terms of posting. And on the one hand, look, you
want that. You want your stars to want to be
out there every single day. You want them to be
the guy who fights their injury sets the example. That's great,
(16:42):
and you want that to be the baseline, but there
also needs to be an awareness of, hey, I cannot
perform at a level right now that's going to help
the team win, and me being out there actively hurts
the team. And I want to go back to twenty
twenty two when he suffered a horrendous s brand ankle
in Colorado that was a read a six week injury.
Everyone knew it. You see similar injuries like that all
(17:04):
the time in Major League Baseball. He refused to go
on the il and so for ten days, the Padres
roster was a man short. They had games to play.
He was actively hurting the team by they were a
man short on their roster for ten days, and then
he forced his way back and guess what, for those
next five weeks after he came back because he had
(17:25):
no stability in that ankle. He hit one ninety four
with a six seventy seven ops. And then what do
you know, at the six week mark, which is when
that thing heals, he picked it back up and was
great again. So again we've seen him, to the detriment
of the team, insists he plays. And that was a
case to me where I thought it was actually extraordinarily
(17:46):
poor management on the podres part where they need to
step in and say no, you're going on the IL.
I know you hate it, but this is what's best
for the team. And again we saw last year it
was clear to anyway again scouts, Pottery's executives, anyone and
everyone who's watching he needed a day. I mean the
fact they didn't give him a day in that first
week of September when that a day game after night
(18:06):
game and followed by East Coast road trip, that was
honestly grossness management. But again, Manny is such a forceful,
strong presence. Too often they've deferred to him. So my
question with you now is with Craig Stammon, a first
year manager, how do you go about this because there's
going to be a point where you're there gonna want
to say you need a day, and he's going to
(18:27):
fight back.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Yeah. So now the one way you can go about
this is stemming.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
He can actually start to introduce this like right now,
you know what I'm saying. Look, there's no pressure right
there and there's nothing going on. I don't know if
Manny is planning on participating in the World Baseball Classic,
but you know he can't establish this like starting right
now with his veteran and making sure many understands it. Look,
(18:58):
even if you have to, sometimes you have to get
like the agent involved in these particular matters, you know.
I mean in Stammon's case, I think he can kind
of set his precedents like right now with man and like,
hey man, this is what we saw over six weeks.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
I know you understand.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
That we need for you to be, you know, in
a much mature, mature mindset and taking care of yourself.
And this is how we're going to try to take
care of you. What are your thoughts? How do you
feel about this? And then we can start going back
and forth with dialogue to try to get this in
his best case scenario moving forward in the team, because
(19:40):
there's gonna be a couple of times on the field
where he's.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Gonna be like, hey, you got day off tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
Man, they may hit two homers that night and be like,
brow yes, fighting chance, Yes, yes, I'm gonna give you
a fighting chance, because you've earned the right for that.
But at the same time, we're still managing you for
the pretty much this second half of the season. Bro,
(20:07):
that's what we need you for. And you can fight
me all you want, but at the end of the day,
this is what it is.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
And I want to be clear, Right, I talked about
twenty twenty two where he missed ten days and have
that terrible stretch. Even with that, he was the MVP
runner up. He had a fantastic season. So imagine if
he had not done that, he would have had even
better year and even last year. Right, we talked about
this bad stretch. I want to give him around. He
carried this Potters offense that couldn't hit a lick for
the first half, or most of the first half, I
(20:36):
should say, he carried them on his back for one
hundred and twenty games. He was a top five MVP
caliber player and then the drop off happened. So again,
this is about getting the best version of Manny Machado.
And I think that. I mean, look, everyone would say, yeah,
I would rather have one hundred and fifty great games
of Manny Machado than one hundred twenty great games and
(20:59):
forty bad games. But he's out there every day. That's
what's gonna be best for him, that's gonna be what's
best for the potter is And I think that to
me is going to be the number one thing I'm
gonna be watching with Craig Stalmon in his first year.
We've talked about it. Craig Stalmmon is a tremendous baseball mind.
He is a natural leader. He was as a player,
he stepped up as a spokesperson for the team during
(21:19):
COVID and time of crisis, and he's also a genuinely
just a great man. There are so many things like
about Craig Stalmon. But this is the question is when
you have one of these stars that was your peer,
that was your teammate, Look many Micheld's gonna look at
Craig Stalmmon different than he would look at say a
Joe Girardi.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Joe Walter.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
He just is Oh no doubt. Can Craig Stalmon and
the rest of the Potters coaching staff and the rest
of the Potters from office, when there's that moment stand
their ground and say no, you gotta sit and have
him respect that. To me, that is going to be
the number one thing to watch this season because if
the answers no and they have a repeat, especially given
(21:58):
that right now the Potters are probably going to have
less talent this year than they have last year, it's
gonna hurt the entire team for the whole for the
season what they're going to be at the end of
the year. Whereas if they manage him better and say, hey,
you're just gonna play one to fifty, but you're gonna
be great for those one fifty because you're gonna be
rested throughout the year. That's what's going to give them
a fighting chance. And again, Manny's going to push back
(22:20):
against that. I think this is the single biggest test
for Craig Stalmon and his staff is that they're able
to stand their ground and also do so in a
way where they don't lose him. Because we have seen
Manny be a great leader at times. We have also
seen him check out at times when he's frustrated. That
to me, is going to be the key to the season.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
Yeah, yeah, I do think that.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
You know, Stamon has, like I said, he has a
great opportunity to start to start.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
To intertwine with his very seasoned veteran and understand what
Many I'm sure Craig.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
Has been sending up in the box a few times
and they've been on meetings that we understand that and
we understand what Many is per se and it's going
to be up to him, like right now to start
introducing it into Manny's mind, Like you're still gonna get
your one hundred and fifty, buddy, but we're we're trying
(23:20):
to reduce the stress level on your body so you
can give us your best in those one hundred and fifty,
which we know out of that one fifty, probably twenty
five thirty.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Forty of them not gonna be good.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
You know what I'm saying, Like everyone goes through right.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
Exactly exactly, so you know, we're just trying to manage
as much as possible.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
I don't know what Many workout routine is.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
I don't know if he's a big, you know, weight
training guy, over the course of the season, understood that,
you know, as a player, as I got older and
me still having to use my legs a lot, that
I needed to work a little bit more in, you know,
during the season in the gym. So it's important to
understand those aspects of it because look, they still have
(24:08):
him for what another four or five years, I mean
maybe six or something, so it's going to be up
to him to take care of himself.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
And then that's where.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
The the the the maturity from just not being a
veteran but a veteran leader in a sense, to where
this guy is on board with what's going on because
I'm going to be here, pretty say, I'm going to
be here for the next three years. I plan on it,
and I need I know you're going to be here
(24:38):
for the next three years. So hey man, let's hash
this out. Let's get ourselves in the right right frame
of mind and start to you know, play, be a
little bit smarter on how we're going to take care
of our things so your production remains at the level
that men and Machado would like for it to remain at.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
By the way, it's not four or five years. He
has eight years left on his contract. So what Yes,
he is signed through his age forty one, when he'll
be forty one at the end of the contract when
they re upt the when he opted out and they
gave him another ten year deal, So yes, they are
going to have him now through his age forty one season.
(25:17):
So establishing this now is gonna help this year and
in future years because this is this is again Father
Times undefeated. There's going to be a stretch of ups
and downs, and as the age really starts to pick up,
they're going to have to manage this even more. So
we'll see what they do this year. But you're right
starting the process now of establishing now. Here's how we're
(25:38):
gonna do this. That's what needs to happen. We'll see
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Speaker 1 (26:50):
You all right, Mike to wrap up the show here.
The non tender deadline was last week and the Padres
tender contracts to most of their arbitration eligible players that
works back.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
The big question would.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
Be was what were they going to do with Louis Campusano.
We talked about Campusano a lot on the show, how
he was raking triple A. There are opportunities to give
him at bats. The Potters did not do it. The
Potters ended up agreeing to a one year contract with him,
so he will be back in twenty twenty six. A. J.
Peler has said they expect to have to have him
(27:25):
be a quote unquote big part of the team. Where
are you at on Louis Campusano and what the right
role for him is now with the Potters given everything
we've talked about, you know, the catching leaving something to
be desired. The bat's good, but he needs every day
at bats. The fact they brought him back I thought
was interesting. Where are you on just him and his
place on this team right now?
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (27:49):
You know, I think it's one of these situations where
they need catching, you know, they need to help in
the catching department. Yes, Campusano presents opportunity for him to
actually you know, he's well, he swings the bat pretty
good for a right handed guy, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
So, yeah, he has he has that power potential.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
But in this case, you know, like you're you're probably
gonna need someone with the balance of both where you
can actually have a receiver that can help out the
pictures and that in that case, and Campusano gives them
you know, some some uh opportunity for some insurance, but
also potential, you know what I'm saying, Like, there's there's
(28:38):
potential there. That's a reason why you know, the team
brought him back considering the market is is kind of
like really low from the catching perspective, so you know,
and they're familiar with Campusano. Uh So it's definitely gonna
be a plus in that category. But we'll just have
to find out, you know, what roster decisions the team
(29:02):
will make as far as maybe bringing in a real
starting pitcher.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
We don't know what the team may do in disposition.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
Yeah, at this point, Freddy Farmen's are starting catchers. So
just to kind of, you know, go over all their
decisions in terms of who they tendered contracts to and
the non tenders as well. They tendered contracts to their
six arbitration eligible players Jason Adam, Mason Miller, Audrin morehone
JP series, Freddy Fermin, and Gavin Sheets. Again, there's no
question with those they non tendered Omar Cruz and Sean
(29:31):
Reynolds two depth pieces. Who are you know, relievers that
you know have some value, but again their depth pieces
and of course agreeing to that one year contract with Campusano.
Where this is interesting to me is we have talked
about the Padres need to upgrade their offense, but they
at least have the bodies to fill out, you know,
a starting nine. They have limited funds and they need
(29:55):
minimum to starting pitchers and realistically three. So I thought
this was interesting the sense of bring him back and
you can go to that with Gavin Sheets at first,
Jake Cronaworth at second, Xander Bogert's short Machado at third,
Loreano Merrill Tatis across the outfield, and campus On is
your DH. You can throw that starting lineup out with
(30:15):
for me as a catcher, again, will it be a
great lineup? No, but it has a chance to be
solid with some internal improvements. And then they would need
to bring in a back of catcher and improve the
bench and that would allow them to put most of
their resources financially into finding starting pitchers. So I saw
this a little bit as a hey, we understand where
(30:35):
our biggest holes are. This is going to just let
us potentially plug a hole in the offense while we
can go use more of our funds on pitchers. That's
how I saw this move. And as I've talked about
for a while, Luise campus Ono as a DH he
can help a team. I have said for a while,
it would not shock me if you know, we see
(30:56):
him hitting two sixty with twenty to twenty five bombs
some whether it's in Sande or elsewhere, kind of what
Gavin Sheets was for the Potters last year as a hitter.
Louise Campusano can do that. He has that ability. Yeah,
So again, I think it's a situation where I'll be
curious to see if they actually give him every day
at bats, and if they do, it has to be
at DH because otherwise bringing them back just doesn't make
(31:17):
a lot of sense. You kind of got to let
them be free and go somewhere. Well, we'll get a chance.
So that's what I want to see. That's and that's
how I took it as Hey, we're going to try
and fill our offensive holes internally as much as we
can because we've got ten million dollars to play with
to match Laster's payroll and a lot of starting pitching
holes to fill. We got to use it for that.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
Yeah, you know, if you're looking at it from death perspective,
you definitely can do that.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
I would like, you know, to see the team simply.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
You know, go over a little bit out of their
range to bring in the type of players that they
need to compete in it in the West. You know,
in itself, I think Arizona may be taking a step back.
We obviously know the doctors are not taking a step
back in the West.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
And and so you know, Colorado is Colorado. But you know,
you don't want to stop this kind of this run
that we're on.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
And and your your your your main guys are getting older,
you know, uh as or they're becoming more season as
you know, these seasons go on and and so you
need to be uphold it. And and that's what the
understanding that we're gonna still try to win because we
have all of this money on payroll right now, and
(32:39):
and and I do understand from management position that they're
possimply exploring the opportunity of selling the team.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
But we still don't just want to just throw this
all to the wayside.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
We still have a chance to be competitive in this
league right now, because you know, we we know we
can compete in the West.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
We've shown that we can compete.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
In the WIST and it is now is you know
how other teams start to formulate their rosters and what
they do in the expectable season of certain teams. So yes,
you would like to for of those things to take place,
but the most important thing is is making sure that
you have a formidable and reputable team that can compete.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
In this position that the team has been put in
right now.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
You know, we talk about the non tenders. The one
that caught my eye as a good fit for the
Potters potentially again, the money has to be right, Jonaheim.
A lot of people were looking at Adelis Garcia as
the biggest nontender from the Rangers' perspective, and understandably, he
has been an electrifying player at his best both at
the plate and in right field with that arm. It's ridiculous.
(33:48):
But jonah Hian is a switch hitting catcher who is
a pretty good defender. He's a big guy, but he's
actually a pretty good defender. Double digit home run powered
every single year. I mean to me, that's a perfect
compliment to ready for me and you go for me
and him behind the plate, campus's or DH. That's just
one that kind of caught my eye. Again, the money
would have to be right. You don't want to spend
a lot of money on him, But I think that
(34:10):
realistically is going to be the best version of the
Potters offenses. Using campus On as a DH and bringing
in a backup catcher that will make the Potters the
best team offensively and defensively. And again, he can be
your emergency third catcher. You know, he got some time
at first base last year on you know, days where
Sheets needs a day off or just the matchup for
whatever reason. Again, I think there are ways to get
(34:31):
him at bats, but the Potters need to actually do it,
giving him consistent at bats as opposed to this three
at bats in three weeks, then we send you back down.
That doesn't do anyone, yea, the team or him. We'll
see how he's managed. But I did think it was
interestingly brought him back.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
Mike.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
Any final thoughts as we wrap up here on this
Thanksgiving week edition of Friar Territory.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
Not much man, just you know, hopefully everyone gets a
chance to enjoy.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
You know, this Thanksgiving festive season. You know, and and
and and.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
Also you know you know, people stay stay tuned on
your hot stole. Then there's a lot of questions. I
do like the the Joe Him situation x Go Glover
World Champion type of guy.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
So uh, that is stuff going to look forward to.
Speaker 3 (35:17):
And you know, hopefully that the people can stir up
some noise and and and continue to find out what
their hotstole team and this case is on Friar Territory
of File Territory, and and and get an opportunity to
hopefully bring the best to their team upon the holiday season.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
Absolutely well, Mike, this has been another great episode with you.
Thank you for expertise and insight as always. Yes, indeed,
all right everyone that'll do it for this this edition
of Friar Territory. Go ahead and give us a review Apple, Spotify, YouTube,
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(35:57):
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We've had a great, great first year. We're continuing to
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we're gonna have a very very special announcement about some
new talent joining the show here. I'm very very excited
for this coming up, so stay tuned for that here shortly.
I believe the official announcement is going to be coming
(36:19):
on Foul Territory later today, and keep an eye out
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Mike Cameron, I'm Kyle Glazer. Thank you for watching and listening.
We back next week.
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