December 15, 2025 • 26 mins
The San Diego Padres are engaged with the New York Mets in trade talks. Kyle Glaser and Marty Caswell break down how the teams match up, including trading Nick Pivetta and Ramon Laureano really makes sense, why the Mets, Cubs and Orioles are the three teams that have what the Padres need, and what Yu Darvish said about his future and the likelihood he retires. Plus, looking back at Juan Soto's time in San Diego and what his reputation is across baseball.
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Well, hello everybody, welcome to Friar Territory. We are part
of the Foul Territory Network. And what a weekend it
was for sports, What a weekend it was from sports
and nostalgia, especially if you live in San Diego. We
may we may not get to that later on the
show because we have lots of going on, a lot
going on to talk about in the world of sports.
Of course MLB hot stove. Now there's not actually action happening,
(00:32):
but we have rumors percolating. I am already Casu. Well,
that is Kyle Glazer, and I'm so glad that Kyle
is here. Kyle. When you and I last spoke and
I saw that you did it, not just on this show,
you did it on Foul Territory with Todd Frasier, you
were you were determined to put the Fernando Tatist junior
rumors to rest right, But don't worry, we have more.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
We have more.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
It seems again it's not so much a matter being
determined as just being accurate and reporting what the situation is.
And there's always at this time of year, a lot
of different rumors, a lot of fans are throwing ideas
out even some old gms threw ideas out, agents threw
ideas out. Anonymous sources through ideas out, and it's really
really important to sift through what is real and what isn't,
(01:14):
and that is our job as reporters. Look six months
from now, a year from now, if ownership changes, there
is a new payroll mandate, things can change. But at
this juncture in time, here we sit on December fifteenth.
I'm going to repeat it because it's true, Okay, the
Padres at this juncture in time have no interest in
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trading Financee Teest Junior. They do not intend to trade
Finante Teast Junior. They do not want to trade Finante
Teach Junior. And even if they did, Financee Teas Junior
has a no trade clause through twenty twenty eight, after
which point will have ten and five rights and can
veto any trade. So even if the Padres decided they
did want to make this move, which let's be clear
they do not, they would still have to get to
(02:00):
Teases approval. So there are so many barriers. Even if
they wanted to do this, and they don't want to
do it again, there are a lot of discussions happening.
A lot of different you know, combinations, permutations, player packages,
money changing hands. There's all sorts of things. Again, Aj Proler,
his staff, they are always going to think big. They
are always going to go and look at a dizzy
number of possible companies. But Fernantatiste Junior is not going
(02:24):
to be traded this offseason.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Okay, you kept you have, you keep saying because of
the no trade contract. But players can waive that, right,
I mean, if need be. Fernando were unhappy in San Diego,
and I've seen him. He gives interviews locally, he gives
him in the dr where he says he loves San
Diego and he has a real sincere smile in his face.
But I mean, players wave it all the time. Is
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it really that huge an obstacle.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
The bigger point is the Potters have no intention of
doing it, So it's kind of a mood point. And again,
six months now, if the season goes completely to hell
and there's new ownership and they mandate, hey we got
a payroll to one hundred million, hundred and fifty million, again,
things can change. But right now it's just not happening.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
So what Kyle Glazer is saying, and we're going to
move on to the next point. We can't keep talking
about tatis is the Padres will not trade tatis until
they actually do trade tatis. I'm just giving you a
hard time, all right. So I'm sure, I'm sure you
loved it. And I think this was on MLB network
and you're talking with the former gms, and it was
Steve Phillips, right, the former METZ GM, and I think
he was talking with Eduardo Perez, right, But the idea
(03:30):
of trade, he said, and I think Eduardo asked him,
like to name a prediction, give a prediction. So I
don't know what he was saying. This is going to happen.
This is what I'm hearing is going to happen. But
he said, mark it down, Francisco Indoor will be a
San Diego Padre. What was your reaction when you heard that?
How much? I mean, how much are you buying something
like that? Which seems insane.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
The only way that would happen is the Potters would
have to clear out a massive amount of money. Again,
I've talked about this. It is public, it is out there.
This is not a secret. The Padres do not intend
to raise payroll beyond where it was last year. That
means again give or take a little bit, but two
(04:11):
hundred and eleven million dollars. They're already at two hundred
and one million. They can't take on another thirty million
dollar contract, nor would that be the best course of
action for them. So the only way that happens is
if somehow they can get Xander Bogart's contract off their books,
which again I just I don't see happening unless the
(04:31):
Potter is paid down most of it and attach some
really good players to it, at which point it doesn't
make sense to do it. So again, even if there
was interest, and let's be clear, the actual reporting indicates
that that is not something that's being discussed right now,
that Lindor is not part of these discussions. But even
if he was, there would have to be multiple moves
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ahead of time just for the Potters to clear up
enough payroll to make it happen.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Okay, I want to go ahead and get get into
some players and the Padres Ross. That would make sense
for the New York Mets, who, by the way, I mean,
they need to do a lot. They they've had a
they've had a rotten off season, losing some star franchise cornerstones.
I'm sure their fan base is upset. I'm sure their owner,
who has this limitless pocketbook, he's upset. He wants action,
he wants some some stars. Francisco Lindor, by the way,
(05:19):
ten years, signed a ten year, three hundred and forty
one million dollar deal through twenty thirty one. Dana Bogart's
eleven years, two hundred and eight million dollars through twenty
thirty three. Last year, not last year, last week, Kyle,
when you and I spoke and I johnted some you know,
some questions and I wanted to ask you, and one
I was going to ask you about that I didn't
was Juan Soto and how he is, you know, how
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he's perceived in baseball in the clubhouse, and the reason
because there a report came out that he didn't get
along with some guys in the Mets clubhouse when he
was with the San Diego Padres. I remember that became
a story, that became a story that maybe Manny and
Many and Won Soto didn't get along and blah blah blah,
(06:02):
they couldn't coexist. And I know what was said by
these players when we talked about it. I don't know
that I believe what I heard from these players, because
when have you ever talked to a player and said
he said, yeah, I can't stand this guy, get him
off my team.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
You will get that sometimes off the record or you know, anonymously,
and the reality is Mon Soto's fine. It always was
kind of funny to me how people from Afar who
weren't in the clubhouse every day like you were, like
I was, We're saying things like you know that they
don't match. It's oil and water. Soto was not the
problem in that clubhouse. And going back to his Washington days,
(06:40):
what we saw the Padres look Sodo is just very
much a guy who comes in, does his work, goes
out and performs. It's very business like, right. He's not
a big, raw, raw guy. He's not the guy that's
gonna rally everyone up and you know, say let's go.
But he's not a problem the name of shape or form.
Wh'll talk if you go talk to him, whole talk.
He's totally fine. I think you know, again, what has
(07:02):
happened in New York I can't speak to because I
have not done the reporting on that and others who
I thrust have so I want to be clear about that.
But he was not the look. There were a lot
of problems in not twenty twenty three team, namely a
lot of guys just slept walk through that season. It
really was amazing watching a team sleepwalk through a season
like that. One Soda was not the problem. There are
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five other guys I can name that were much more
problematic than Wan Soda with that team. Again, he's fine,
he's again, he shows up, he does his work. The
guys who are the problems are the guys who half
asset whether in their prep or on the field, or
are condescending to their coaches and teammates like those are
the problem guys. One Soda is not that has never
been that. Again, he's just very business like. He again,
(07:46):
he's not gonna be, you know, the guy that leads
the team onto the field, but he's gonna do his job,
do his work, and again be a professional all the
way through.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
In case anyone's confused, you are watching Friar Territory by
the San Diego Padres. I'm sorry I had to bring
up the whole One Soda discussion just because of the
idea that they need to go ahead and trade. We're
in the second maybe the second best player on their
team in Francisco Indoor because he does not like he
does not get along with Wan Soto. Therefore put a
package deal sit him to San Diego. Right, that's the answer.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
I mean, you can speak to it as well. You
were in the clubhouse every bit as much as I was,
and honestly more because I was doing national work, so
I was popping in. I mean, what was your read
on it?
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Well, I don't know that he was the problem. I
know when we would talk to Bob Melvin, we'd ask
him questions about the lineups. You know, he didn't he
wasn't going to hide the fact that, you know, Wan
Soda wanted to go ahead and bat where Wan Soda
wanted to bat, you know, And I was he were
He and and many Manchado best friends. No waserver a
problem where they had to be pulled apart in the clubhouse.
(08:53):
Was there every situation that happened with Manny and Tatis
from years ago when the cameras caught them screaming at
each other and they had a whole the joint press
for the next day No, to your point, there was
a lot going on on that Padres team you had.
You had so many big personalities that came together all
at once, and Bob Milvin, I don't know that he
had the right handle on what was going on. So No,
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at that time, I didn't think, Wow, Wan Soda is
a cancer. This guy's a problem. And Taties were close.
I mean that that corner, that the way that the
not a corner because it's a circle right the way
that locker room was he and Tatis where Buddy's profile
was right there, there was a close group on that side.
I don't know that I heard that Wan Soda was
a problem. Therefore you know he wasn't gonna be a
good fit for the Padres. That wasn't the reason why
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that team.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Just there there. Like I said, I can name five
other reasons that it's a whole other show. But look now,
he was not the problem. Again, So again I think
a lot of that seeing people say you know that
he was the problem, or that that dynamic isn't isn't
why that team worked, It's just not accurate.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Okay, Kyle, there's still reports out there that any second now,
and I have my phone. I have my Android right
here in case there's an alert, and the padres that
aj Teler has made a blockbuster deal with the New
York Mets. The names that we're hearing right now, Nick
Pivetta is a popular name, Mason Miller's a popular name. Estrada,
what are some names that would make sense to go
(10:16):
to New York and vice versa that would really appease
both gms and both fan bases.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
Well, I want to be clear, nothing's going to appease
the Mets fan base right now. This has been a
disastrous off season. David Stearns has completely blown this. Letting again,
I understand letting Edwin Diaz go. You want to reallocate
that money to a starting pitcher, that's fine, I get it.
The Brandon Nemo Marcus Simeon trade, he got the worst
end of that deal. Simeon's a really good defender, but
he's thirty five sub seven hundred ops two years in
a row. You downgraded significantly on offense. Letting Pete Alonzo
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walk at for age thirty one to thirty five seasons
was the wrong move period.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
But then didn't make an offer, and they didn't even
make an offer is that correct.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
And not a competitive one? And then Jorge Polp But
then you send Hori Poalonko, who is a significant power
down grade, has never played first base to be your
first base DH, Like, what are we doing that? This
objectively is a significantly worse team that was a year
you had a top ten scoring offense. The way you
build is you add starting pitching. You don't take away
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the offense because now you don't have a good offense
or good starting pitching. So with that, from the Mets perspective,
they need veteran starters who can help them win right
now and are durable. They could use another back end
reliever because look, Devin Williams did not have a good
year last year at all, and they need an outfielder
considering they let Brandon Nimo go and you know their
(11:35):
top prospects is not an outfielder who's ready to step in.
So with that, you look at again the names we're seeing,
Nick Pavetta, Mason Miller, Ramon Loreano, and from the Potters perspective,
they need multiple controllable young major leaguers, both pitching and
position players. And we've talked about given their payroll constraints,
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the way they were going to have to address this
was through trades. And when you look at what are
the teams that have young major league ready talent, it's
the Mets, It's the Cubs, and the Orioles. Among the
teams that can absorb payroll and they're trying to win.
The A's have lots of young, controllable talent, they can't
add any payroll. They won't adney payroll. So really, the
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podres from their perspective, the optimal teams to deal with
in this situation. And this was true a month ago, Mets, Cubs,
and Orioles. So the fact that they're in discussions with
the Mets right now isn't a surprise. It's a great fit.
They have a lot of good young arms. They have
some really good young position players. Again, the three arms,
Nolan McLain, Jonah Toong and Brandon Sprote. McLain would be
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tough to prive for them, but Sprot's really good. There's
some good young outfielders. You know, Carson benj Majsway Triple A.
Last year, Jet Williams was in Triple A. He's an infielder.
And you also have guys like Brett Bady who turned
a corner last year and oh, by the way, isn't
a free agent untill twenty thirty. So again, young major
league ready or close to Major lee ready talent. This
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is what you do. You trade, say two veterans for
four young players. That's what the Padres need to do
to fill out their roster. And those are the discussions
they're having.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
If you were to trade literally the one starter that
you can not pencil in, the one the one starter
who's a lot for the Padres and Nick Pivetta, though,
I mean, what are you getting. Are you getting guys
back that are young, controllable right now that you expect
to be in your rotation, or more guys that are
just you know, work in progress that you might see
him in Triple A, or I mean really through the Padres,
what are the choice you have? You don't really have anybody.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
If you're trading Nick Pavetta, you are doing so for
major league ready starting pitching. Brandon Sprokee reached the majors
last year. Noel McLain was in the majors year, Jonahtong
was in the majors last year. These guys are ready
to step into an opening day rotation, so you need
realistically two young starting pitchers. Again, you can do that
by tap tagging on Loriano may Similar is a whole
different price point. But whatever the package is, whatever trades
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the Potters make this off season, if they choose to
trade Nick pug then realistically they have three rotation spots
they need to fill. In theory, you could get two
of those as young controllable pictures from a trade and
then use the nineteen million dollars you save from on
Nick Pavetta to go sign someone else. So there's a
couple of different ways you can do it. But yes,
there's no question you're not going to see a trade
of Nick Pavetta where they're only getting position players back.
(14:19):
I mean, if you could, but it would be a
bad move for the Potters. They have to have to
have to get multiple young starting pitchers back in any
trade they make for any of the guys we're talking about.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
How much interest do you think there will be New
York Mets? Otherwise in Ramon Loreano there'll be interest.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
Again, I think it's a situation where he would likely
have to be packaged with. Again, whether it's a Nick
Pavetta or Mason Miller, which again becomes a whole different
price point. But look, this is a productive outfielder on
both sides of the ball who has shown he can
hit for average, he can hit for power, He's got
a great arm Defensively, he's strong, can play left, We've
seen him play center, he could fill in and right.
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This is a really good so again for the Podres,
Trading him only makes sense if it's part of a
package for multiple impact young players who are ready to
help the team.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
Now.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
So again, a lot of these trades, you know, you see,
oh could be Nick Paveta, Ramon Loreano, Mason, any combination
you'll see you know, some fan deals about like oh, like,
maybe I'll give him one guy who's okay and a
bunch of prospects we've never heard of or seen or
don't care about. That's not how this works. This is
going to be a two for five kind of deal
where it's, Hey, three guys who are ready to step
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into the padres, you know, lineup a rotation from day one,
maybe one or two other guys who are in Triple
A and could dibut this year, next year, and maybe
you'll have one guy at the bottom of the farm system.
This is going to be a package situation.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Ramon Lauriano was an app was a difference maker from
the moment he arrived in San Diego. If he did
not break his arm, I mean, if he didn't break
had the injury, I think that the playoffs against the
Cubs have been completely different. Speaking of the playoffs against
the Cubs, that was the last time that we saw Padres.
Make sure you Darvish. We had a chance to speak
with him today at the Ronald McDonald's House for Rady
(16:06):
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from you, Darvish about his future after having surgery.
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Speaker 1 (17:18):
Welcome back to Friar Territory on foul Territory Network. I
am already cas Well. That is Kyle Glazer, who has
a much better background than I do. I'm still working
on mine. I have my Jerry Coleman Tony Gwinn picture
taken at Jack murf Stiadium, and I also have a
stack of media guides. Hey, Kyle, I'm coming for you,
because today I pulled out a gigantic box of credentials
(17:41):
that I've been saving. I've got to have hundreds in there.
I'm going to the best ones and I will I
will dazzle you with my display in the coming weeks,
so just you know, brace yourself.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
I'll be ready now. I basically had to throw away
hundreds of you know, single game credentials or like back
when I first started covering high school sports, you know,
some little like saff credit. So the ones I capture
all the World Series and All Star games and Bowl
games and playoffs for NBA, NHL, all the fun stuff
I've gotten to do over the course of my career.
So I did have to whoodle him down quite a bit.
Speaker 5 (18:12):
Though.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
My best one, by the way, is a sticker. It
was from Steven Strasburg his final game with San Diego
State when he threw the no hitter. I was part
of the three thousand people that were there. When all
said and done, it'll be like sixty thousand people that
was there, all right. Speaking of pictures, listen, the last
time we spoke we saw you, Darvish, was when the
Padres were eliminated at Wrigley Fields. I remember just seeing
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at corner of the locker room he and Manny Machado.
They were sitting right next to each other in the
visitors clubhouse, and they spent so much time just you know,
heads together talking about I mean, who knows what. We
weren't listening, but we did ask you, Darvish at that time,
you know about his future, what's going to happen? Does
you want to pitch again? He said, you know, it
was too soon for him to think about it. Today
(18:56):
there was a really really nice event with the Padres
and you, Darvish at the Rollal McDonald house at Ready
Children giving away gifts for children who were hospitalized, and you, Darvish,
I did speak. He did speak about number one of
his progress after having surgery, and I also asked him.
I'm not sure we have that question, but I did
ask him about his future and what's next. Ui La
(19:18):
spoke to you, spather you were not ready to address
your future. Meet out and you plan to go ahead
now and and pitch where you are helping.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Young to I do that at because that's a neat
quocared them all at you know, I saw you cong
did you have your stimas and toots?
Speaker 5 (19:44):
So this this might you know, be a little bit
of a confusing thing that you might hear. But like,
as for now, I'm not necessarily thinking about really pitching
as I you know, as I through this rehab process
right now.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Okay, I'm so sorry you caught me. You literally caught
me red handed right now. So he's not going to
think about pitching. He's really focused now on his on
his rehab. And later on in that conversation, I think
it was Dennis Lynn of the Athletic that asked him,
you know, when he knew he needed this. He knew
early on in March, but he did say, and it
was I thought it was very interesting that he grinded
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out through this season because he thought he was done.
So he thought he was going to be done, even
before needing that surgery, before his early exit. So I
don't know, Kyle, did you Darvish really add certainty or
uncertainty about his future and whether he'll pitch again.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
Look, nothing definitive was said, but it was a good
insight into just where he was last year, where his
mind was, and where his mind is right now. Look, you,
Darvish has had an unbelievable career. He is inarguably the
most successful pitcher to ever come over from Japan. Now,
there might be guys who surpass him ten years down
the road, but in terms of the total body of work,
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what You Darvish has done has been nothing short of amazing,
and I think it's important now for him to do
whatever he feels is best for him in his family.
He has earned the right to walk away when he
is ready to walk away. Now, certainly from the Potter's perspective,
given that he has still owed more than forty million
dollars over the next three years, ideally for them he
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would make the decision sooner rather than later so that
they can not have to pay out that money, reallocate
it to players who will certainly be on the mound
for them this year. We know You Darvish, whatever he decides,
will not pitch this year. So I think there's again
that kind of that push pull. On the one hand,
he has earned the right to make the decision when
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he is ready to make the decision and not be
forced into that decision. On the other hand, from the Potters' perspective,
the sooner he makes that decision, the better for them
financially and from a roster construction standpoint, because they'll just
have more money to work with and more certainty about
what their team's going to look like.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
He's owed to your point sixteen million dollars in twenty
twenty six, where he won't pitch at all, that he's
owed fifteen million dollars in twenty twenty seven and twenty
twenty eight. And you mentioned the family, by the way,
he which we learned today he has. He has seven kids,
six girls, I'm sorry, six boys and one girl. He's
very much a family man. He took time off from
(22:23):
the Padres without paid to attend to a family member
and his son. Show he show he Darvish. What a
name right there? Huh, show me Darvish just committed to
pitch at UCSD. So perhaps when you're you Darvish and
you hear him saying he already thought last year was
going to be it for him. Now the surgery. Oh
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and by the way, now his son, who he said
works too hard, he works too hard, is pitching at UCSD.
It just makes me think this was kind of it.
Maybe the Padres will give him time. You're not going
to push him to your point, give him time to
go out his own way and have that press conference
that he and he so richly deserves.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
And again from the financial standpoint, there's different ways you
can go about this. You can come to a buyout.
I mean that there's so many things they can do.
Look new Darbige has made over two hundred million dollars
in his career. He's fine, He's set at this point. Again,
it's most important that he's able to do what he
wants to do and live the life he wants to
live in terms of how much pain he's dealing with.
(23:22):
He talked about wanting to be able to play catch
with his kid. That's important. I mean, we'll see what happens,
but I will say that it was good to hear
him speak and offer at least some clarity just into
where he is mentally. The other thing I want to add, Marty,
I think a lot of times, whenever there are these
charity events, we get so focused on just asking the
players about the on field questions because the reality is
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that's what most fans do care about. My brother was
a childhood cancer survivor three times and spent a lot
of time at Rady Children's Hospital in the hematology on college.
You were and now was there with him a lot,
and I think I think it's really important people understand
how important these visits are and we give credit to
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the players for doing them. Again, this means a lot
to the kids, It really does. I saw that firsthand.
So I just want to add too that I think
it's important that as we discuss you, Darvish, first of all,
just you know, hats off props for the work he's
doing the ron Domhouse and Rady's Children's Hospital. It's meaningful work,
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it's impactful work, and ultimately does have a more meaningful,
lasting impact than just oh, was he going to pitch,
you know after this year. So I want to make
sure we draw attention to that, because at the end
of the day, that's the stuff that really, really really matters.
You know, he's making an impact on the lives of
a lot of kids who certainly could use a pick
me up.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Right now, I'm so glad that you brought in the
human element and how important it is. And I shot
a bunch of pictures. I took some video of you, Darvish,
you know, helping this little boy. This little boy he
must have been two years old, and he was kind
of he was talking around, calling around, and this room
full of toys was tremendous. I have never seen more
more toys in my life since you know, toys r
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Us went down It was absolutely incredible. But when you
see you Doarvers talking this little child and he said,
you know what, what's your favorite toy?
Speaker 4 (25:14):
What do you like?
Speaker 1 (25:15):
He said cars? And so you helped them, you know,
pick out whichever car. He also talked and there was more.
You can find the footage on my account, but he
just talked about how emotional it was being a father
himself of seven to see these kids who need these things,
and the joy that it brings to these kids who
are going through so much. And you talked about cancer
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survivors and we don't know what these kids and their
families are going through. They imagine living in a hospital
twenty four to seven and not knowing what's next. But
the joy in that room and the joy in you
Darvish's face, I have not seen him smile like that.
I never see it. I'm sure he gets he gets
kind of our dumb questions. He's always very very gracious.
But the joy that it brought you, Darvish, to to
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bring joy to a child was was It was great.
It was great.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
It was absolutely And with that, Marty, I think that's
a good place to wrap up on a high note. Again,
there's a lot of uncertainty with the potteries what they're
going to do. But it's the holiday season, it's time
to be charitable, it's time to be giving props to
you Darvish all the work he's doing with Ron mc
donalhouse and Rady's Children's Hospital. And now we'll see what
trades come down the pipeline and we will certainly have
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full coverage of them here on Friar Territory. All right, everyone, Well,
once again this has been another edition of Friar Territory.
Go ahead and gives a review, Apple, Spotify, YouTube, whatever
platform you're watching and listening on, we'd love to hear
from you. For Marty Caswell, I'm Kyleaguiser. Thanks for watching
and listening. We'll be back later this week.
Well, hello everybody, welcome to Friar Territory. We are part
of the Foul Territory Network. And what a weekend it
was for sports, What a weekend it was from sports
and nostalgia, especially if you live in San Diego. We
may we may not get to that later on the
show because we have lots of going on, a lot
going on to talk about in the world of sports.
Of course MLB hot stove. Now there's not actually action happening,
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but we have rumors percolating. I am already Casu. Well,
that is Kyle Glazer, and I'm so glad that Kyle
is here. Kyle. When you and I last spoke and
I saw that you did it, not just on this show,
you did it on Foul Territory with Todd Frasier, you
were you were determined to put the Fernando Tatist junior
rumors to rest right, But don't worry, we have more.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
We have more.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
It seems again it's not so much a matter being
determined as just being accurate and reporting what the situation is.
And there's always at this time of year, a lot
of different rumors, a lot of fans are throwing ideas
out even some old gms threw ideas out, agents threw
ideas out. Anonymous sources through ideas out, and it's really
really important to sift through what is real and what isn't,
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and that is our job as reporters. Look six months
from now, a year from now, if ownership changes, there
is a new payroll mandate, things can change. But at
this juncture in time, here we sit on December fifteenth.
I'm going to repeat it because it's true, Okay, the
Padres at this juncture in time have no interest in
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trading Financee Teest Junior. They do not intend to trade
Finante Teast Junior. They do not want to trade Finante
Teach Junior. And even if they did, Financee Teas Junior
has a no trade clause through twenty twenty eight, after
which point will have ten and five rights and can
veto any trade. So even if the Padres decided they
did want to make this move, which let's be clear
they do not, they would still have to get to
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Teases approval. So there are so many barriers. Even if
they wanted to do this, and they don't want to
do it again, there are a lot of discussions happening.
A lot of different you know, combinations, permutations, player packages,
money changing hands. There's all sorts of things. Again, Aj Proler,
his staff, they are always going to think big. They
are always going to go and look at a dizzy
number of possible companies. But Fernantatiste Junior is not going
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to be traded this offseason.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Okay, you kept you have, you keep saying because of
the no trade contract. But players can waive that, right,
I mean, if need be. Fernando were unhappy in San Diego,
and I've seen him. He gives interviews locally, he gives
him in the dr where he says he loves San
Diego and he has a real sincere smile in his face.
But I mean, players wave it all the time. Is
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it really that huge an obstacle.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
The bigger point is the Potters have no intention of
doing it, So it's kind of a mood point. And again,
six months now, if the season goes completely to hell
and there's new ownership and they mandate, hey we got
a payroll to one hundred million, hundred and fifty million, again,
things can change. But right now it's just not happening.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
So what Kyle Glazer is saying, and we're going to
move on to the next point. We can't keep talking
about tatis is the Padres will not trade tatis until
they actually do trade tatis. I'm just giving you a
hard time, all right. So I'm sure, I'm sure you
loved it. And I think this was on MLB network
and you're talking with the former gms, and it was
Steve Phillips, right, the former METZ GM, and I think
he was talking with Eduardo Perez, right, But the idea
(03:30):
of trade, he said, and I think Eduardo asked him,
like to name a prediction, give a prediction. So I
don't know what he was saying. This is going to happen.
This is what I'm hearing is going to happen. But
he said, mark it down, Francisco Indoor will be a
San Diego Padre. What was your reaction when you heard that?
How much? I mean, how much are you buying something
like that? Which seems insane.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
The only way that would happen is the Potters would
have to clear out a massive amount of money. Again,
I've talked about this. It is public, it is out there.
This is not a secret. The Padres do not intend
to raise payroll beyond where it was last year. That
means again give or take a little bit, but two
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hundred and eleven million dollars. They're already at two hundred
and one million. They can't take on another thirty million
dollar contract, nor would that be the best course of
action for them. So the only way that happens is
if somehow they can get Xander Bogart's contract off their books,
which again I just I don't see happening unless the
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Potter is paid down most of it and attach some
really good players to it, at which point it doesn't
make sense to do it. So again, even if there
was interest, and let's be clear, the actual reporting indicates
that that is not something that's being discussed right now,
that Lindor is not part of these discussions. But even
if he was, there would have to be multiple moves
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ahead of time just for the Potters to clear up
enough payroll to make it happen.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Okay, I want to go ahead and get get into
some players and the Padres Ross. That would make sense
for the New York Mets, who, by the way, I mean,
they need to do a lot. They they've had a
they've had a rotten off season, losing some star franchise cornerstones.
I'm sure their fan base is upset. I'm sure their owner,
who has this limitless pocketbook, he's upset. He wants action,
he wants some some stars. Francisco Lindor, by the way,
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ten years, signed a ten year, three hundred and forty
one million dollar deal through twenty thirty one. Dana Bogart's
eleven years, two hundred and eight million dollars through twenty
thirty three. Last year, not last year, last week, Kyle,
when you and I spoke and I johnted some you know,
some questions and I wanted to ask you, and one
I was going to ask you about that I didn't
was Juan Soto and how he is, you know, how
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he's perceived in baseball in the clubhouse, and the reason
because there a report came out that he didn't get
along with some guys in the Mets clubhouse when he
was with the San Diego Padres. I remember that became
a story, that became a story that maybe Manny and
Many and Won Soto didn't get along and blah blah blah,
(06:02):
they couldn't coexist. And I know what was said by
these players when we talked about it. I don't know
that I believe what I heard from these players, because
when have you ever talked to a player and said
he said, yeah, I can't stand this guy, get him
off my team.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
You will get that sometimes off the record or you know, anonymously,
and the reality is Mon Soto's fine. It always was
kind of funny to me how people from Afar who
weren't in the clubhouse every day like you were, like
I was, We're saying things like you know that they
don't match. It's oil and water. Soto was not the
problem in that clubhouse. And going back to his Washington days,
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what we saw the Padres look Sodo is just very
much a guy who comes in, does his work, goes
out and performs. It's very business like, right. He's not
a big, raw, raw guy. He's not the guy that's
gonna rally everyone up and you know, say let's go.
But he's not a problem the name of shape or form.
Wh'll talk if you go talk to him, whole talk.
He's totally fine. I think you know, again, what has
(07:02):
happened in New York I can't speak to because I
have not done the reporting on that and others who
I thrust have so I want to be clear about that.
But he was not the look. There were a lot
of problems in not twenty twenty three team, namely a
lot of guys just slept walk through that season. It
really was amazing watching a team sleepwalk through a season
like that. One Soda was not the problem. There are
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five other guys I can name that were much more
problematic than Wan Soda with that team. Again, he's fine,
he's again, he shows up, he does his work. The
guys who are the problems are the guys who half
asset whether in their prep or on the field, or
are condescending to their coaches and teammates like those are
the problem guys. One Soda is not that has never
been that. Again, he's just very business like. He again,
(07:46):
he's not gonna be, you know, the guy that leads
the team onto the field, but he's gonna do his job,
do his work, and again be a professional all the
way through.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
In case anyone's confused, you are watching Friar Territory by
the San Diego Padres. I'm sorry I had to bring
up the whole One Soda discussion just because of the
idea that they need to go ahead and trade. We're
in the second maybe the second best player on their
team in Francisco Indoor because he does not like he
does not get along with Wan Soto. Therefore put a
package deal sit him to San Diego. Right, that's the answer.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
I mean, you can speak to it as well. You
were in the clubhouse every bit as much as I was,
and honestly more because I was doing national work, so
I was popping in. I mean, what was your read
on it?
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Well, I don't know that he was the problem. I
know when we would talk to Bob Melvin, we'd ask
him questions about the lineups. You know, he didn't he
wasn't going to hide the fact that, you know, Wan
Soda wanted to go ahead and bat where Wan Soda
wanted to bat, you know, And I was he were
He and and many Manchado best friends. No waserver a
problem where they had to be pulled apart in the clubhouse.
(08:53):
Was there every situation that happened with Manny and Tatis
from years ago when the cameras caught them screaming at
each other and they had a whole the joint press
for the next day No, to your point, there was
a lot going on on that Padres team you had.
You had so many big personalities that came together all
at once, and Bob Milvin, I don't know that he
had the right handle on what was going on. So No,
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at that time, I didn't think, Wow, Wan Soda is
a cancer. This guy's a problem. And Taties were close.
I mean that that corner, that the way that the
not a corner because it's a circle right the way
that locker room was he and Tatis where Buddy's profile
was right there, there was a close group on that side.
I don't know that I heard that Wan Soda was
a problem. Therefore you know he wasn't gonna be a
good fit for the Padres. That wasn't the reason why
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that team.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Just there there. Like I said, I can name five
other reasons that it's a whole other show. But look now,
he was not the problem. Again, So again I think
a lot of that seeing people say you know that
he was the problem, or that that dynamic isn't isn't
why that team worked, It's just not accurate.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Okay, Kyle, there's still reports out there that any second now,
and I have my phone. I have my Android right
here in case there's an alert, and the padres that
aj Teler has made a blockbuster deal with the New
York Mets. The names that we're hearing right now, Nick
Pivetta is a popular name, Mason Miller's a popular name. Estrada,
what are some names that would make sense to go
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to New York and vice versa that would really appease
both gms and both fan bases.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
Well, I want to be clear, nothing's going to appease
the Mets fan base right now. This has been a
disastrous off season. David Stearns has completely blown this. Letting again,
I understand letting Edwin Diaz go. You want to reallocate
that money to a starting pitcher, that's fine, I get it.
The Brandon Nemo Marcus Simeon trade, he got the worst
end of that deal. Simeon's a really good defender, but
he's thirty five sub seven hundred ops two years in
a row. You downgraded significantly on offense. Letting Pete Alonzo
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walk at for age thirty one to thirty five seasons
was the wrong move period.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
But then didn't make an offer, and they didn't even
make an offer is that correct.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
And not a competitive one? And then Jorge Polp But
then you send Hori Poalonko, who is a significant power
down grade, has never played first base to be your
first base DH, Like, what are we doing that? This
objectively is a significantly worse team that was a year
you had a top ten scoring offense. The way you
build is you add starting pitching. You don't take away
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the offense because now you don't have a good offense
or good starting pitching. So with that, from the Mets perspective,
they need veteran starters who can help them win right
now and are durable. They could use another back end
reliever because look, Devin Williams did not have a good
year last year at all, and they need an outfielder
considering they let Brandon Nimo go and you know their
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top prospects is not an outfielder who's ready to step in.
So with that, you look at again the names we're seeing,
Nick Pavetta, Mason Miller, Ramon Loreano, and from the Potters perspective,
they need multiple controllable young major leaguers, both pitching and
position players. And we've talked about given their payroll constraints,
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the way they were going to have to address this
was through trades. And when you look at what are
the teams that have young major league ready talent, it's
the Mets, It's the Cubs, and the Orioles. Among the
teams that can absorb payroll and they're trying to win.
The A's have lots of young, controllable talent, they can't
add any payroll. They won't adney payroll. So really, the
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podres from their perspective, the optimal teams to deal with
in this situation. And this was true a month ago, Mets, Cubs,
and Orioles. So the fact that they're in discussions with
the Mets right now isn't a surprise. It's a great fit.
They have a lot of good young arms. They have
some really good young position players. Again, the three arms,
Nolan McLain, Jonah Toong and Brandon Sprote. McLain would be
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tough to prive for them, but Sprot's really good. There's
some good young outfielders. You know, Carson benj Majsway Triple A.
Last year, Jet Williams was in Triple A. He's an infielder.
And you also have guys like Brett Bady who turned
a corner last year and oh, by the way, isn't
a free agent untill twenty thirty. So again, young major
league ready or close to Major lee ready talent. This
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is what you do. You trade, say two veterans for
four young players. That's what the Padres need to do
to fill out their roster. And those are the discussions
they're having.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
If you were to trade literally the one starter that
you can not pencil in, the one the one starter
who's a lot for the Padres and Nick Pivetta, though,
I mean, what are you getting. Are you getting guys
back that are young, controllable right now that you expect
to be in your rotation, or more guys that are
just you know, work in progress that you might see
him in Triple A, or I mean really through the Padres,
what are the choice you have? You don't really have anybody.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
If you're trading Nick Pavetta, you are doing so for
major league ready starting pitching. Brandon Sprokee reached the majors
last year. Noel McLain was in the majors year, Jonahtong
was in the majors last year. These guys are ready
to step into an opening day rotation, so you need
realistically two young starting pitchers. Again, you can do that
by tap tagging on Loriano may Similar is a whole
different price point. But whatever the package is, whatever trades
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the Potters make this off season, if they choose to
trade Nick pug then realistically they have three rotation spots
they need to fill. In theory, you could get two
of those as young controllable pictures from a trade and
then use the nineteen million dollars you save from on
Nick Pavetta to go sign someone else. So there's a
couple of different ways you can do it. But yes,
there's no question you're not going to see a trade
of Nick Pavetta where they're only getting position players back.
(14:19):
I mean, if you could, but it would be a
bad move for the Potters. They have to have to
have to get multiple young starting pitchers back in any
trade they make for any of the guys we're talking about.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
How much interest do you think there will be New
York Mets? Otherwise in Ramon Loreano there'll be interest.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
Again, I think it's a situation where he would likely
have to be packaged with. Again, whether it's a Nick
Pavetta or Mason Miller, which again becomes a whole different
price point. But look, this is a productive outfielder on
both sides of the ball who has shown he can
hit for average, he can hit for power, He's got
a great arm Defensively, he's strong, can play left, We've
seen him play center, he could fill in and right.
(14:59):
This is a really good so again for the Podres,
Trading him only makes sense if it's part of a
package for multiple impact young players who are ready to
help the team.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
Now.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
So again, a lot of these trades, you know, you see,
oh could be Nick Paveta, Ramon Loreano, Mason, any combination
you'll see you know, some fan deals about like oh, like,
maybe I'll give him one guy who's okay and a
bunch of prospects we've never heard of or seen or
don't care about. That's not how this works. This is
going to be a two for five kind of deal
where it's, Hey, three guys who are ready to step
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into the padres, you know, lineup a rotation from day one,
maybe one or two other guys who are in Triple
A and could dibut this year, next year, and maybe
you'll have one guy at the bottom of the farm system.
This is going to be a package situation.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Ramon Lauriano was an app was a difference maker from
the moment he arrived in San Diego. If he did
not break his arm, I mean, if he didn't break
had the injury, I think that the playoffs against the
Cubs have been completely different. Speaking of the playoffs against
the Cubs, that was the last time that we saw Padres.
Make sure you Darvish. We had a chance to speak
with him today at the Ronald McDonald's House for Rady
(16:06):
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from you, Darvish about his future after having surgery.
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Speaker 1 (17:18):
Welcome back to Friar Territory on foul Territory Network. I
am already cas Well. That is Kyle Glazer, who has
a much better background than I do. I'm still working
on mine. I have my Jerry Coleman Tony Gwinn picture
taken at Jack murf Stiadium, and I also have a
stack of media guides. Hey, Kyle, I'm coming for you,
because today I pulled out a gigantic box of credentials
(17:41):
that I've been saving. I've got to have hundreds in there.
I'm going to the best ones and I will I
will dazzle you with my display in the coming weeks,
so just you know, brace yourself.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
I'll be ready now. I basically had to throw away
hundreds of you know, single game credentials or like back
when I first started covering high school sports, you know,
some little like saff credit. So the ones I capture
all the World Series and All Star games and Bowl
games and playoffs for NBA, NHL, all the fun stuff
I've gotten to do over the course of my career.
So I did have to whoodle him down quite a bit.
Speaker 5 (18:12):
Though.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
My best one, by the way, is a sticker. It
was from Steven Strasburg his final game with San Diego
State when he threw the no hitter. I was part
of the three thousand people that were there. When all
said and done, it'll be like sixty thousand people that
was there, all right. Speaking of pictures, listen, the last
time we spoke we saw you, Darvish, was when the
Padres were eliminated at Wrigley Fields. I remember just seeing
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at corner of the locker room he and Manny Machado.
They were sitting right next to each other in the
visitors clubhouse, and they spent so much time just you know,
heads together talking about I mean, who knows what. We
weren't listening, but we did ask you, Darvish at that time,
you know about his future, what's going to happen? Does
you want to pitch again? He said, you know, it
was too soon for him to think about it. Today
(18:56):
there was a really really nice event with the Padres
and you, Darvish at the Rollal McDonald house at Ready
Children giving away gifts for children who were hospitalized, and you, Darvish,
I did speak. He did speak about number one of
his progress after having surgery, and I also asked him.
I'm not sure we have that question, but I did
ask him about his future and what's next. Ui La
(19:18):
spoke to you, spather you were not ready to address
your future. Meet out and you plan to go ahead
now and and pitch where you are helping.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Young to I do that at because that's a neat
quocared them all at you know, I saw you cong
did you have your stimas and toots?
Speaker 5 (19:44):
So this this might you know, be a little bit
of a confusing thing that you might hear. But like,
as for now, I'm not necessarily thinking about really pitching
as I you know, as I through this rehab process
right now.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Okay, I'm so sorry you caught me. You literally caught
me red handed right now. So he's not going to
think about pitching. He's really focused now on his on
his rehab. And later on in that conversation, I think
it was Dennis Lynn of the Athletic that asked him,
you know, when he knew he needed this. He knew
early on in March, but he did say, and it
was I thought it was very interesting that he grinded
(20:28):
out through this season because he thought he was done.
So he thought he was going to be done, even
before needing that surgery, before his early exit. So I
don't know, Kyle, did you Darvish really add certainty or
uncertainty about his future and whether he'll pitch again.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
Look, nothing definitive was said, but it was a good
insight into just where he was last year, where his
mind was, and where his mind is right now. Look, you,
Darvish has had an unbelievable career. He is inarguably the
most successful pitcher to ever come over from Japan. Now,
there might be guys who surpass him ten years down
the road, but in terms of the total body of work,
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what You Darvish has done has been nothing short of amazing,
and I think it's important now for him to do
whatever he feels is best for him in his family.
He has earned the right to walk away when he
is ready to walk away. Now, certainly from the Potter's perspective,
given that he has still owed more than forty million
dollars over the next three years, ideally for them he
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would make the decision sooner rather than later so that
they can not have to pay out that money, reallocate
it to players who will certainly be on the mound
for them this year. We know You Darvish, whatever he decides,
will not pitch this year. So I think there's again
that kind of that push pull. On the one hand,
he has earned the right to make the decision when
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he is ready to make the decision and not be
forced into that decision. On the other hand, from the Potters' perspective,
the sooner he makes that decision, the better for them
financially and from a roster construction standpoint, because they'll just
have more money to work with and more certainty about
what their team's going to look like.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
He's owed to your point sixteen million dollars in twenty
twenty six, where he won't pitch at all, that he's
owed fifteen million dollars in twenty twenty seven and twenty
twenty eight. And you mentioned the family, by the way,
he which we learned today he has. He has seven kids,
six girls, I'm sorry, six boys and one girl. He's
very much a family man. He took time off from
(22:23):
the Padres without paid to attend to a family member
and his son. Show he show he Darvish. What a
name right there? Huh, show me Darvish just committed to
pitch at UCSD. So perhaps when you're you Darvish and
you hear him saying he already thought last year was
going to be it for him. Now the surgery. Oh
(22:43):
and by the way, now his son, who he said
works too hard, he works too hard, is pitching at UCSD.
It just makes me think this was kind of it.
Maybe the Padres will give him time. You're not going
to push him to your point, give him time to
go out his own way and have that press conference
that he and he so richly deserves.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
And again from the financial standpoint, there's different ways you
can go about this. You can come to a buyout.
I mean that there's so many things they can do.
Look new Darbige has made over two hundred million dollars
in his career. He's fine, He's set at this point. Again,
it's most important that he's able to do what he
wants to do and live the life he wants to
live in terms of how much pain he's dealing with.
(23:22):
He talked about wanting to be able to play catch
with his kid. That's important. I mean, we'll see what happens,
but I will say that it was good to hear
him speak and offer at least some clarity just into
where he is mentally. The other thing I want to add, Marty,
I think a lot of times, whenever there are these
charity events, we get so focused on just asking the
players about the on field questions because the reality is
(23:43):
that's what most fans do care about. My brother was
a childhood cancer survivor three times and spent a lot
of time at Rady Children's Hospital in the hematology on college.
You were and now was there with him a lot,
and I think I think it's really important people understand
how important these visits are and we give credit to
(24:06):
the players for doing them. Again, this means a lot
to the kids, It really does. I saw that firsthand.
So I just want to add too that I think
it's important that as we discuss you, Darvish, first of all,
just you know, hats off props for the work he's
doing the ron Domhouse and Rady's Children's Hospital. It's meaningful work,
(24:27):
it's impactful work, and ultimately does have a more meaningful,
lasting impact than just oh, was he going to pitch,
you know after this year. So I want to make
sure we draw attention to that, because at the end
of the day, that's the stuff that really, really really matters.
You know, he's making an impact on the lives of
a lot of kids who certainly could use a pick
me up.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Right now, I'm so glad that you brought in the
human element and how important it is. And I shot
a bunch of pictures. I took some video of you, Darvish,
you know, helping this little boy. This little boy he
must have been two years old, and he was kind
of he was talking around, calling around, and this room
full of toys was tremendous. I have never seen more
more toys in my life since you know, toys r
(25:08):
Us went down It was absolutely incredible. But when you
see you Doarvers talking this little child and he said,
you know what, what's your favorite toy?
Speaker 4 (25:14):
What do you like?
Speaker 1 (25:15):
He said cars? And so you helped them, you know,
pick out whichever car. He also talked and there was more.
You can find the footage on my account, but he
just talked about how emotional it was being a father
himself of seven to see these kids who need these things,
and the joy that it brings to these kids who
are going through so much. And you talked about cancer
(25:36):
survivors and we don't know what these kids and their
families are going through. They imagine living in a hospital
twenty four to seven and not knowing what's next. But
the joy in that room and the joy in you
Darvish's face, I have not seen him smile like that.
I never see it. I'm sure he gets he gets
kind of our dumb questions. He's always very very gracious.
But the joy that it brought you, Darvish, to to
(25:58):
bring joy to a child was was It was great.
It was great.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
It was absolutely And with that, Marty, I think that's
a good place to wrap up on a high note. Again,
there's a lot of uncertainty with the potteries what they're
going to do. But it's the holiday season, it's time
to be charitable, it's time to be giving props to
you Darvish all the work he's doing with Ron mc
donalhouse and Rady's Children's Hospital. And now we'll see what
trades come down the pipeline and we will certainly have
(26:23):
full coverage of them here on Friar Territory. All right, everyone, Well,
once again this has been another edition of Friar Territory.
Go ahead and gives a review, Apple, Spotify, YouTube, whatever
platform you're watching and listening on, we'd love to hear
from you. For Marty Caswell, I'm Kyleaguiser. Thanks for watching
and listening. We'll be back later this week.
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