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December 18, 2025 35 mins

The holidays are upon us, which means 2025 is about to come to a close. Marty Caswell, Kyle Glaser and Heath Bell look back at the San Diego Padres top storylines from the year, including the Seidler family exploring a sale of the team, Mike Shildt's surprising resignation, and Mason Miller's addition at a wild trade deadline. Plus, they discuss Ruben Niebla's new title with the expansion of the Padres coaching staff and Miller announcing he'll pitch in the WBC. Friar Territory is the official San Diego Padres podcast of the Foul Territory Network. 

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Mike Schiltz sudden resignation, John Seidler putting the Padres up
for sale. What were the padres five biggest stories of
the twenty twenty five season. I am already cas well
that is Kyle Glazer, thank you for watching Friar Territory.
We are part of the Foul Terry Foul Territory TV network.
I purposely did that because it's a tongue twister for me,

(00:30):
and I botched it.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
Kyle, are you today doing all right? Hey? I've been
doing that intro for a year and look it's gonna happen.
We all have those moments. You're all good, no sweat.

Speaker 3 (00:39):
Oh my goodness, Oh my goodness. Listen.

Speaker 1 (00:41):
I'm looking forward to talking about the five biggest stories
the Padres in twenty twenty five.

Speaker 3 (00:46):
Maybe the five most.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
Impactful, not the five best stories, the five most impactful stories,
the ones that stop us in our tracks.

Speaker 3 (00:54):
The one that caused the most commotion, the most dialogue.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
But before we get there, I just saw that Mason
Miller Padre's closer we think, or is he the Mets closer?
But Mason Miller has committed to pitch for the w
for Temusa in the WBC.

Speaker 3 (01:11):
How big is that?

Speaker 2 (01:12):
It's huge. Look, the WBC is an incredible event, that
is one of the pinnacles of sports. There's a segment
of the fan base and the population that dismisses it
and talks down about it and is fearful it's just
going to cause a bunch of injuries and ruin people's seasons. Look,
I've been very, very fortunate throughout my career. I've covered
eight World Series, seven All Star Games, two World Baseball Classics,

(01:34):
NBA Playoffs, NHL plaus The WBCs are as impactful and
exciting and incredible as anything. I put him right up
there with all the World Series I've covered in terms
of the energy, the intensity, and how much this means
to the players. So realistically, I think this is just
an incredible accomplishment. A for any player to get to
wear that USA across their chest, they value that so

(01:57):
much and whatever their home country is, to represent their country,
to do so on a global stage. And look, this
is the top international baseball tournament in the world, not
the Olympics, just the way things have shaken out, so
a getting the invite is an incredible accomplishment and of itself,
the opportunity to participate. Look, every single player, even the
ones who have gotten hurt doing it, they've talked about

(02:18):
how meaningful it was, how impactful it was, and how
they want to do it again, and they would do
it again a heartbeat.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
For the purpose of this conversation, I'm going to assume
that Mason Miller is with the Padres.

Speaker 3 (02:28):
When the WBC does happen.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
Now, the players love it, the fans love it. I
just wonder how much do the teams love it. If
you're a Craig Stanman, you are a first time manager,
and right now I'm having flashbacks because this is what happened.
I think to Bob Melvin when he first joined the Padres,
half his team took off for the WBC. Gosh, let's
see Xander Bogart, Juan Soto, Manny Machado. Tatis could not

(02:51):
in his situation. But if you are first time manager
Craig Stanman, Tatis is committed to play for Alba Poujols
and the Republic, as is Many Machado. We'll see what
happens with Xanderberger with the Netherlands. And now Mason Miller.
We think your reliever is going to WBC. How big
a deal is this for for managers? How much do

(03:13):
they dislike this?

Speaker 3 (03:14):
And they can't say that because to me, it's a
jewel event for Major League Baseball. It's awesome, it's incredible.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
Look, it's something that every manager and every frontal official
understands is part of the deal. I would say front
offs officials are the ones who are much more hesitant
and fearful about it because, look, injuries do happen, or
just any number of things, so especially for pitchers, so
they're the ones who are most fearful. You know, Bob Melvin,
it was twenty twenty three, it was his second year,
so we had a little bit of a runway to

(03:42):
get acclimated. But realistically, the understands part of the deal.
They're going to be watching. And one thing that's important
to note too is Mark de Rosa. And really this
is true whoever the manager of Team USA and every
manager of every team in the tournament is they are
constantly talking to the managers of the teams, of of
the players. So it's not like they're just going to

(04:03):
run guys out willy nilly. It's a conversation and sometimes
that has hamstrung Team USA and who they can put
in the game, what the situations are. So again, on
the one hand, yeah, of course you would love your
players to be there, you know, to really get acclimated,
especially the first time manager. At the same time, you
understand this is part of the jobs as part of
the deal, and you just got to roll with it.

Speaker 1 (04:24):
I remember how much conversation there was on you Darvish
when he went to pitch for for for Japan and
the WBC, and just like, you know, how they were
going to manage his innings, how he was going to
be using the concern on on getting him ready for
the regular season.

Speaker 3 (04:37):
So this will be this will be fun to watch.
I can't I can't wait.

Speaker 2 (04:39):
For it, absolutely, And look you Darvish ended up coming
in and pitching the eighth inning of that gold medal game,
serving up you know, you know, home run that made
a one run game, and that's what sets the stage
for Shoho Tani to come in, you know, close out
the ninth strike out of Mike Trout. That was, I say,
the two most incredible moments of my career I have
ever gotten a cover one. The first World Series I

(05:01):
ever covered was twenty sixteen and the first World Series
game I ever covered was Game three, So the first
World Series game at regally feels since nineteen forty five.
That's that was incredible. And right there alongside it is
covering that gold medal game in Miami, just the way
it played out, the finish, It's incredible. And again there
are people out there who again will pooh poo it
and say it doesn't really matter, it's an exhibition, YadA, YadA, YadA.

(05:24):
It matters to these players a lot, a lot, a lot,
a lot, a lot, and they will tell you that.
And the energy and the passion and the joy I
tell you right now it's much more so than ninety
five percent of the Major League Baseball season. I mean,
this is an incredible event that does matter for the
growth of the game and to everyone on the field
at the end of the day, that's what matters most.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
I'm looking forward to getting to our top five and
seeing if you are you and I are are, if
you and I are on the same page. But one
more question on this, when would be the right time
to play this? I mean, do you think should Baseball
maybe consider yeah, you know, maybe rather than the All
Star Game?

Speaker 3 (05:58):
You have a true all store exhibition.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
Do you maybe take a time out, a break in
the summertime and that's when that's when you do this.

Speaker 2 (06:06):
So me personally, it's tough on one hand because look,
as much as people talk about, oh the timing, the
thing is, this event works right. It is getting record viewership,
it is getting record revenues. So there's not a whole
lot of impetus to change it, you know, from an
internal standpoint, I think you can certainly argue from a

(06:26):
player standpoint that doing what the NHL did for years,
which was, hey, in Olympic years, so every four years
to the NHL, they didn't do their All Star Game
and they took a two week Olympic break, I think
you could argue for Major League Baseball every three years,
or if they wanted to make this in every four
year event, change it up a little bit. I think
that's valid. You know, hey, take a two week break,
scrap the All Star Game and just play this. At

(06:49):
the same time, the complicating factories you're talking about, you know, Okay, now,
and PB has to do the same thing, the KBO
has to do the same thing, and they probably would,
but there's just a lot of logistics, So realistically, there's
no perfect time. There's pros and constant doing it March,
there's pros and constant doing it in July. But the
reality is it works as is from a revenue perspective,

(07:09):
from a viewership perspective, from an excitement perspective. There's no
real impetus to change it if you're Major League Baseball.

Speaker 3 (07:16):
Okay, got it all right?

Speaker 1 (07:18):
Moving on now to our top five stories as we
end the end of twenty twenty five, just a couple
of weeks agoay, and we're still in pins and needles
waiting for that blockbuster trade and for the Padres to.

Speaker 3 (07:28):
Go ahead and make a move.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
Kyle, I'm going to start with you, now, do you
want to start with number five and work your way
to number one? Just go ahead and lay out your
biggest Padres stories of this baseball season.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
Go yeah. So I'll just list my five straight up
and then we can talk about on depth afterwards. So
Number five, Nick Pavetta taking the leap to being a
frontline starter, Okay. Number Number four the Padres trade deadline frenzy.
Number three Mike Schultz stepping down as manager. Three Number
I had it to first, but I wanted to make
a change because I want to emphasize some of the

(08:00):
on field stuff. No, it was big. I was slipping
back and forthween number two and three. Number two because
I wanted to really, I think it's important to drive
home how big this was. Number two is the Potter's
winning ninety games back to back seasons for the first
time in franchise history. That is monumental, and I think
it's getting underplayed a little bit. And of course number
one John Siler announcing the family is exploring the sale.

(08:22):
So sheild Siler's lawsuit technically was this year. It was
fought on January sixth, so I kind of put this
within that a little bit as opposed to breaking it out.
But yeah, so again five Paveta making the leak fo
Trey deadline frenzy. Three Mike Schiltz stepping down. Two the
Potters winning ninety games back to back seasons, first time
in franchise history. And one John Siler announcing the family

(08:43):
is exploring a sale. What about you, Marty? What are
your five?

Speaker 1 (08:46):
You and I are on the same page when it
comes to the number one, And I'm going to be
a little bit ashamed of myself hearing your list and
how positive you are and how.

Speaker 3 (08:54):
Broad your outlook is.

Speaker 1 (08:55):
You could yet you're talking about the back to back,
the ninety wins, and that's huge, right, playoffs back back
for the first time in franchise history.

Speaker 3 (09:02):
What second ast Tenants major League Baseball?

Speaker 2 (09:04):
That's huge.

Speaker 3 (09:04):
My number five was Craig Stalmon being hired.

Speaker 1 (09:08):
I mean, we thought there might be a shock right
with the Padres Now Albert Pouhols was interesting. They interviewed
Nick Hunley, who I think was Buster Posey's first choice
for the Giants job.

Speaker 3 (09:17):
Of course he has a connection with the Padres and
being in San Diego.

Speaker 1 (09:20):
But Craig Stammon kind of caught me off guard because
when did we ever hear about Craig staman wanted to
be a manager and another first time manager. He's a reliever.
That was my number five. Now, this is where you're
probably gonna be like, you're an idiot. I have the
end of the City Connects and let me explain to
you why all right, the Padres City connect uniforms, I
mean they're done.

Speaker 3 (09:39):
We will never see the pink and the mint again.

Speaker 1 (09:42):
They were so wildly popular, right, especially with kids, and
teenagers and girls.

Speaker 2 (09:48):
They My four gal daughter loves it. That was the
jersey she wanted it. Just to be clear, we have
I clicked hers that have jerseys too much every team,
but my daughter has a few as well. But yeah,
when I was getting her her Padres years, you know
she's four, so pink and bright green, Yes, she was
all about it.

Speaker 3 (10:04):
End of an era. I love those.

Speaker 1 (10:06):
I mean when they would when they would play, I mean,
they got so much commentary, and those were wildly popular.
You get to pecka park, you walk around anywhere, you're
gonna see the City Connects everywhere. My favorite comment was
Losa ray Is saying at the end, and he was
trying to be graceful, He's like, those are for girls.

Speaker 3 (10:19):
What are we talking about?

Speaker 1 (10:20):
I have girls and my daughters love them, but those
uniforms are for girls. Goodbye City connect Number three for
me was it's in line with what you said, but
it was the deadline, and it was the Padres getting
Mason Miller. Of all the needs I thought Peler was
going to address, I didn't think they were going to
go ahead and add another closer, an all star Mason
Miller Leod of Ree that was Number three for me

(10:43):
was Mike Schultz because my last image of Mike Schultz
was at Wrigley Field, him hugging Eric Grupner and how
close they were, and the players loved them.

Speaker 3 (10:52):
He was respected, and he won number one.

Speaker 1 (10:55):
I agree with you John Seidler putting the team up
for sale. There was no doubt in my and for
those who cover this team that a sale was going
to come. I just didn't think the announcement was going
to come this soon. I thought maybe one more year,
maybe it's going.

Speaker 3 (11:07):
To drag out.

Speaker 1 (11:08):
But to me, this signifies the end of an era
when it comes to the Padres organization.

Speaker 3 (11:14):
So we're kind of on the same page a little bit.

Speaker 2 (11:17):
There's no question number one, right, this is something that's
going to impact the franchise moving forward for years and
years and years and reverberate across the organization. This is
the single biggest development of the year. We'll see whether
it ends up being a positive or a negative one,
and a lot of that has to do with ultimately
how long it drags on and who they sell to.
You know, in terms of the Potters ninety win seasons.
Why I put that so high again, it's easy to look.

(11:40):
We've talked about on the show. Hey there's this team,
there are these holes, there's the sale, there's less things.
It's important to remember what this team accomplished. This was
a team that was ravaged by injuries, particularly on the
pitching side, had one of the worst offenses in baseball
for most of the year, and still they found a
way to play clean, consistent, fundamental, energetic baseball and that
allowed them to outperform maybe just what you were seeing

(12:03):
on paper. So I think you need to give this
team a lot of credit. And again, the Potters did
something historic, and it's important to note that no Potters
team has ever done this. We have never had Potters
win ninety games and back to back seasons. So I
think this is an accomplishment to be celebrated and it
is a milestone for the franchise. You know, in terms
of Shiltz stepping down again, I was going back for
two and three. I was trying to elevate a positive one. Okay,

(12:25):
you know it with shilt Look, he oversaw again the
only time the Potters have ever won ninety games and
back to back seasons, back to back playoffs, and look,
he established a culture that Potters needed, that they were
going to play clean, smart, aggressive, energetic baseball, which they
were not doing for years, especially the energy part, and

(12:45):
it allowed them to outperform maybe again some of their projections.
Did he have his flaws, were their issues, absolutely, but
he was a good manager who instilled a great culture
on this team, and that's really important and worth remembering.
You know, Number four, the trade deadline frenzy. Again, it
was all of it, Mason Miller. But the other thing too,
that just the big picture of it was the Potters

(13:06):
were operating with very limited financial resources and very limited
prospect capital of the deadline. It was incredibly impressive what
aj Preller and his staff were able to do, the
amount of trades they were able to make to address
every part of their team. And look, we can break
down the individual trades right The Ramon Loreano around a
Hearn train trade had to happen was the biggest need.
They made it happen. Major props, whatever the cost. You know,

(13:28):
the Mason Miller Leo Degrees trade, it's the headliner. We'll
see how it plays out in the future. But if
nothing else, the podres at an impact player. And look,
we talked about it for mean, for Bergert and colla trade,
I don't think it's when they should have made unless
they made it. So the overall takeaway, regardless of how
you feel about the individual trades, is it was nonetheless

(13:49):
impressive that they were able to make as many trades
as they did. Again, twenty two players involved. It was
a frenzy and I want to give credit to everyone
who worked hard within the Potters' front office. It's kind
of part him to make it happen. And of course
number five, you know Nick Povett had taken the leap.
That was a huge development, just because you have Dylancy's

(14:09):
having one of his worst seasons, you have you Darbish
and Michael King struggling with injuries, you have Joe Musk
Grove out after having Tommy John surgery. Nick Povetta had
always shown stuff. He'd shown some command. The periphles were good,
but he can never put it all together. Consistency was
never there with him. He'd have six or seven great
starts and six or seven disasters starts him putting it together.

(14:30):
I think, above all else is why the Potters were
able to win ninety games. If he does, if he
has another four yard season, the Potters maybe win eighty
two games. I mean, he the Potters needed not just
quality starting pitching, but durable, consistent starting pitching, and he
was the only one that gave it to them, and
he elevated this team. So again to me that right.

Speaker 1 (14:50):
He became the race and you know, he toren himself
into a very powerful trade ship.

Speaker 2 (14:58):
Nick. But again, the are in a great spot because
he can be either a very powerful trade ship or
he can come back, and the Pottery's feel great about
having him at the front of the rotation. It's a
win win for the Patres and it's a win win
for him because he has now elevated himself into again
being a top five Sging Award contender and now he's
going to have the opportunity to if he wants to

(15:19):
opt out cash in big time. So again, this has
been a win win all around for everybody. And I
just thought his step forward making the leap as we've
seen so many pitchers do under the Potters and Rubin
Diebla and then Fritz in the whole infrastructure, that was
a huge, huge development for me this season.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
Okay, you and I were on the same page three
at a five not bad. Now, I'm only slightly ashamed
of my city connect, but I do think it's valid.
Now moving on, I think Padres made some news yesterday.
It may not be the sexiest news for Padres fans,
but Greig Staman did finally announce his full and complete
coaching staff. By the way, congratulations to Padres pitching coach Rubiniebla,

(15:59):
who was apparently a fist from that job.

Speaker 3 (16:01):
He's retained.

Speaker 1 (16:02):
You know what, Neeblo was going to make my list
because he was he was such he was, he such
a valuable piece for the Padres. But he is now
an associate manager for the San Diego Padres and he
will be a valuable asset to a great Stamen, no question.

Speaker 2 (16:17):
And with that, I actually want to bring Heath Bell
and he is here to join us to talk about
great staff all right now, to bring in Bell Rock
in the Santa Hat. Heath great to see it.

Speaker 4 (16:26):
Wow, doing pretty good.

Speaker 2 (16:28):
How are you guys doing? Doing all right? Doing all right?
You know, Marty and I were just talking about the
top five storylines for the Potters this season. You know
we went in depth, but but I just want to
ask you before we move on to some of the
more recent developments the coaching staff. When you look at
this season, what for you was the number one takeaway
or even the top two, you know, takeaway storylines for

(16:50):
you that you think ultimately most impactful.

Speaker 4 (16:54):
I think the big trade at the trade deadline get
Mason Miller and everybody else. I think that was the
biggest storyline all season.

Speaker 5 (17:02):
I mean because it pretty much got to the padres
to the playoffs and it kind of made him a
force to be reckoned with.

Speaker 4 (17:08):
I mean all year long, the second.

Speaker 5 (17:10):
Half of the ball the batting lineup could not hit whatsoever.

Speaker 4 (17:14):
They got a hit. Everybody was surprised. It was like,
oh my gosh.

Speaker 5 (17:18):
And you know, after the really good April that they had,
they just kind of fell off, and after the trade
deadline it fixed all the holes they needed and then
it just didn't work out in the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
The closer going with the acquisition of the closer, I
love it. Well, he's a setup man, fair, he's a
closer at heart. He was the potter setment, but now
he will be their closer.

Speaker 4 (17:42):
Well, you just needed you needed another ace in the bullpen.

Speaker 5 (17:45):
That just kind of put fear in the other batter's eyes,
and I really believe anybody can kind of close. But
when you have a closer, the other teams fear the guy.
You know, there's guys that out there had really good
careers that other batters are like, we never feared you.
I mean he just did a really good job. And
then there's some guys out there that people just fear heth.

Speaker 1 (18:06):
I'm sorry you said anybody can close. You really believe that,
don't you? Like, don't you be a little bit crazy
to be a closer?

Speaker 4 (18:12):
First of all, well, I think anybody can pitch the.

Speaker 5 (18:15):
Ninth inning a reliever, Okay, to be a closer, to
put fear in other people's eyes.

Speaker 4 (18:20):
I mean you can go out, you could be a
closer and blow a lot of games. So it's it's
just one of those things that.

Speaker 5 (18:26):
Any you know, every reliever thinks they can do it,
but you really have when you have that fear. And
that's what you know, basically saying going a little nuts
or being a little crazy. You know, the hitters are
just like, I don't know if he's going to hit
me or not. It's kind of like Wall and Ryan
when he pitched, you didn't you didn't dig in otherwise
he throwing up and in or Pedro Martinez or any
of the great starters.

Speaker 4 (18:47):
You know, great closers are kind of the same way.

Speaker 2 (18:52):
Absolutely so with that heat. You know, one of the
things that that Marty and I had talked Actually, I
want to take a step back. We didn't talk about
this Mason Miller going to pitch in the WB. See
you were around the WBC came into play, like I've
talked to a lot of players who have taken part
in it and they love it unanimously. What is your
view of it as someone who had teammates playing it
now is viewing it from afar and just the impact

(19:14):
and effect on players, and do you have any concerns
about an impact player participating like a Mason Miller.

Speaker 5 (19:20):
Well, the only thing is the only concern I have is,
you know, most of the Latin players and or the
Latin guys and the guys from Asia, they're all playing
winter ball, you know.

Speaker 4 (19:31):
The only the American players, the only ones that are like.

Speaker 5 (19:34):
Well, I'll just I'll get ready in January before before
I usually go to spring training.

Speaker 4 (19:38):
I'll just get ready like a month earlier, start throwing
a month earlier.

Speaker 5 (19:42):
Where every other country is pretty much playing winter ball,
and they're almost like mid seasons. So for them, it's
a really long season. If you really want to do
it right, you kind of do it like you kind
of take a week off of the All Star Game
and you do it.

Speaker 4 (20:00):
You do it then, and I.

Speaker 5 (20:01):
Just don't I don't mind it early on. I think
it's fun. It kind of brings it spring training into
really excitement and this and that.

Speaker 4 (20:09):
I love watching it. I loved playing in it, participating
two times in it.

Speaker 5 (20:13):
But it just I really think if you want the
best of the best, you know, competition with everybody who's
like fire and all cylinders, you got to do it
during the All Stars, you know, week, maybe take two
weeks off and this and that. But it's really fun
to watch. And you know, I'm rooting for the USA.
It's just like I always do.

Speaker 3 (20:32):
How much time does it take?

Speaker 1 (20:34):
We always hear the argument that the spring training is
too long, It should be cut to four weeks. But
the reason why six weeks they have to get the
pitchers ready. How much time to get to get to
staff ready to go spring training?

Speaker 5 (20:45):
How much what you're talking about is starters, you know,
getting multiple aliens, but you know, getting your pitch count
up to one hundred pitches. And it's not just throwing
bullpens one hundred pitches, it's throwing fifteen to twenty pitches,
sitting down for you know, three five minutes, getting back up,
doing it again, and doing it five six times.

Speaker 4 (21:03):
In a row.

Speaker 5 (21:05):
Relievers, we were pretty much ready in two weeks, you know.
Somewhat three weeks, we're kind of like we you know,
the first bullpen, we're allowed to throw twenty five pitches,
and most guys are like, hey, can I throw all
my pitches? And they're like no, wait until the third bullpen,
and it's like I've already thrown all my pitches before
I came to camp, you know. So it's mostly for

(21:25):
the starters, and I think back in the day it
was it was to build up their arms, because a
lot of guys, I know a lot of veteran guys
when I was young, didn't really start throwing or playing
catch until like.

Speaker 4 (21:35):
Two weeks before the season started. So our two weeks
before spring training started.

Speaker 5 (21:41):
So but I know it just about every reliever or
young guys coming to camp ready to go, they've thrown
all their pitches they've thrown the live guys.

Speaker 4 (21:48):
It's just it's a matter of you know.

Speaker 5 (21:50):
Trying to work on a few things or you know,
work on a few kinks, you know, So that's you know,
spring training is a little long, but I think it's
long for certain reason to kind of figure out, you know,
certain guys to play and you know, how what your
young guys.

Speaker 4 (22:07):
Can, they can they do it at a high level
and whatnot.

Speaker 2 (22:10):
And again that's always the challenge. With the WBC being
in March. We see with starters in particular, you have
guys going three innings, four innings and sometimes there are
velos down because they're still not build up phase. That's
always the tricky balance and we'll see how Mark de
Rosa manages it here this time around. He before you joined,
Marty and I were talking about the Potters finalize their

(22:31):
coaching staff. We talked about the additions as they've been announced,
you know, kind of drip drip drip. Now that it's finalized,
one of the big notes and we knew something to
this effect was coming. Ruben Diebla was named associate what's the.

Speaker 1 (22:43):
Official time where associate head coach is that what they
called him associate manager.

Speaker 2 (22:47):
Associate manager. Okay, yes, I say, did they go with
the college nomenclature for a minute for some reason I
thought they might have and then just had a brain farm,
But yes, associate manager. You know we've seen coaches.

Speaker 4 (22:59):
I would like, who's the pitching coach.

Speaker 2 (23:02):
He's both. He's pitching coach slast associate manager.

Speaker 5 (23:04):
So it's kind of like, you know, back in the
day when a janitor was a janitor.

Speaker 4 (23:08):
And now he's a custodian engineer. Yeah, he's still can
su trash.

Speaker 5 (23:13):
It's not a it's not a bad profession or anything,
but I just I really personally hate these terms of
like he's the president of baseball Operations.

Speaker 4 (23:21):
No, he's the GM. You know, he's the general managers
that makes all the decisions.

Speaker 5 (23:25):
He's the pitching coach, No, he's the assistant manager, main guy,
pitching coach, engineer of the bullpen. You know, we're just
gonna keep making up names to make, you know, people
either pay the more or for the simple fact is,
you know what, we didn't hire you, but we're gonna
give you a really cool title.

Speaker 2 (23:45):
And a race.

Speaker 1 (23:45):
Hopefully he got a race too, because he was pretty
he's pretty coveted and he's gonna be I can't believe
he's a great pitching coach.

Speaker 5 (23:53):
I think, you know, he'd be a good manager one day.
He just didn't get it, so go back to be
the pitching coach. But you know, I just don't understand
all these terms, well a lot of it.

Speaker 1 (24:01):
I think it's it is like look at the look
at the Padres roster. I'm sorry, but like, okay, back
then it was it was hitting coach. It was always
hitting coach, right, and pitching coach. And now it's offensive coordinator,
which kind of throws me off because I think offensive
coordinator more for for the end for football, right, But
the Padres have like they have offensive coordinators.

Speaker 3 (24:19):
Now it's different.

Speaker 2 (24:20):
And that's one of the things that you know, we
wrote about at Baseball America was title inflation. How we
were seeing a lot of baseball positions start to mirror
what happens in the corporate world, or people just get
these really elaborate titles. It's to try and keep them.
They give them raises. Are their duties different? Not really,
but it's about you know again again, title inflation is

(24:43):
a phenomenon throughout all of the world right now.

Speaker 5 (24:47):
It's a hearty submission trophy. Hey, you didn't get the job,
we didn't win, but I'll give you this to make
you feel better.

Speaker 2 (24:53):
Well, so I want to go. You know, I'll be
curious to see exactly how the duties change and what
role being able to take, especially with the first time
aagering Kraig Stamer. But the thing that actually jumped out
to me the most, so the Potters, as we know,
have Steven SUSA as a hitting coach, but they also
have two assistant hot hitting coaches and a hitting instructor.
So again SUSA hitting coach, Mike mccoyston hitting coach, Pattle

(25:15):
Sullivan assistant hitting coach Ralph Pedron hitting instructor. We've seen
a proliferation of hitting coaches in particular, just because there's
so many different things they have to do, you know,
having one and another having four. I thought it was
notable and did jump out to me. And I do
want to ask Keith, what's the risk there of having
too many voices? You know in a room, you know,

(25:36):
too many cooks in the kitchen, kitchen, you know, talking
to you know, players, just hearing too many things from
too many different sides.

Speaker 4 (25:42):
Well, here's the thing.

Speaker 5 (25:43):
It's you're gonna have your main guy and then you're
you're hitting coach, and then all these other names or whatnot.
You have four hitting coaches. Really, they're not all gonna
say the same thing. They're not all going to have
the same philosophy, and players are going to go to
certain guys. Let's say I go to Coach A and
he I really meet with him, and then Coach B
tells me to say something. You know, hey, why don't

(26:05):
you try this? And I'm like, I don't want to.
I'm gonna go to Coach A. And then there's a
little few, you know, and it's almost like everybody goes well.
I want everybody to do well, but at the end
of the day, you want the credit.

Speaker 2 (26:17):
You know.

Speaker 5 (26:17):
It's it's really hard to go. You know, I've helped everybody,
but I don't want to give a credit.

Speaker 4 (26:22):
I'm gonna give it to Coach A.

Speaker 5 (26:24):
Even though I coached all these guys and made him
really good, but I'm going to give him the credit.

Speaker 4 (26:28):
He didn't do anything. Nobody's going to say that in
an interview.

Speaker 5 (26:31):
Or anything more really on the press, just because you know,
they don't want to.

Speaker 4 (26:36):
They want to say face.

Speaker 5 (26:37):
So it's how you know, you have a pitching coach
and you have a bullpen coach. The bullpen usually, you know,
the bullpen coach is kind of helping you with the
bullpen guys, and the starter does that, but the pitching
coach deals with the stars. But the head pitching coach
also kind of knows the relievers, but he kind of
probably tells the bullpen coach, Hey, why don't you tell

(26:59):
the reliever this.

Speaker 4 (26:59):
Because as you guys have a good relationship and.

Speaker 5 (27:02):
Are we going to have Hey, I'm the hitting coach
for the starters, I'm the hitting coach for the bench guy.
I'm the hitting coach for the righties. I'm the hitting
coach for the lefties. You know, I mean that's kind
of that's kind of where we're going now. And why
don't we just all professionally have our own coaches, you know,
that's and we have so many coaches coach in locker room.
Why didn't every pitching coach have his own coach. Why
don't every hitting coach have his own coach?

Speaker 3 (27:25):
I think some players do that.

Speaker 1 (27:26):
I think I think I think Tatis's best hitting coach
has been his dad, like there's been time.

Speaker 5 (27:31):
For Like he's a point. What if the hitting coach
is trying to teach them something and his dad's on vacation,
then you're you're not going to listen to coach, and
then you're not going to have the respect to your
elders or your coach.

Speaker 4 (27:43):
That you should have. And that's where I think, you know,
you know, this game has changed.

Speaker 2 (27:48):
And to be clear, that is a conflict we see
in clubhouses across baseball, guys having their own individual coaches.
Maybe the messaging doesn't vibe with what the hitting coach
is wanting them to do. And look, that is a
conflict that does exist. We've seen it and it's been
written about and talked about a lot. I think you know,
again understanding that you're not a fan of having this

(28:09):
much division of labor and having this many individual coaches
on staff. I think that's the one thing I'm just
gonna be curious to watch, right And I'm not gonna,
you know, sit here and pass judgment before we've given
it a chance to see how it works. But anytime,
you know, we talk so much about and players talk
about all the time, having you know, too many guys
in their ear, you know, you know, tweet this and

(28:29):
tweet this and tweet this, and before you know it,
you're you're just kind of all over the place. So
having four different individuals with the title of hitting coach
or hitting instructor, all with different experience levels, all with
different relationships with players on the team. I'm gonna be
curious to see how this works in practice, because I
think you can sit here and say, Okay, hey, you're

(28:49):
specially just gonna be a You're specially gonna be b
But at the end of the day, it's about relationship dynamics,
as you've talked about, and we've talked about a lot,
and I'm just gonna be very curious see how this
plays out in this particularly given hitting is the area
the Potters had the greatest need for improvement, both in
terms of internal improvements as well as whoever they bring
in and and you know, getting new guys in and

(29:11):
having to be productive right away.

Speaker 4 (29:12):
See this is what this is what I think would
be perfect. You have a hitting coach or maybe even kind.

Speaker 5 (29:18):
Of two, you know, because there's a lot of guys,
and then you guys have a staff. They could be
you know, coaches, but they don't really talk to the players.
They talk to the coaches to tell the coaches to
talk to the players. That's where I think it should be.
Is that way everybody's on the same page.

Speaker 3 (29:35):
So you just have one person directing well one thing.

Speaker 4 (29:39):
It's like your manager.

Speaker 5 (29:40):
Should everybody tell the manager what the lineup is and
what who to put in, you know, in what situation?
Or should it be the guy that's in control?

Speaker 1 (29:50):
Okay, last one for you, Heath and great seeing you
by the way, What is the what now? You don't
like all the titles, So Pete Somerville, his title is
the game planning and pitching st Just tell me what
his job.

Speaker 5 (30:01):
Is, probably to tell him the scouting report that the
pitching coaches could less. I mean, the pitching coach told
me the scouting report. It was in front of us.
We went over if we had any questions right there.
Now is the pitching coach there to teach you mechanics
that you kind of already know, make sure you're not
dropping your arm, your elbow, whatnot. And the other guy

(30:22):
is going to come in and say, okay, scouting report
says this.

Speaker 4 (30:25):
I mean, I don't understand.

Speaker 2 (30:28):
There's also Chris Appi. I'm probably butchering this name, Chris
apic Apa. That's a butcher. I know it is coaching
assistant pitching. So again, you know, we're seeing a lot
of different a lot of different individuals here. You know,
for each position group. You know, again Nick Punto's infield coach,

(30:49):
Ryan Goins is the infield instructor. You know, how are
we going to differentiate And again I'm sure that that
has been specified once they hired everyone. You know, it's
going to be.

Speaker 4 (30:59):
Established coaching an instructor.

Speaker 2 (31:02):
We're going to find out.

Speaker 1 (31:03):
And that's a question, okay, if you're giving me a
great idea for spring training, because you know how it
gets right, Usually by the sixth or seventh day of
spring training, the reporters running out of you know, the
same old questions to ask about lineup, construction, opening starters.
So now when I get there right and when half
the team is gone from WBC, I will go up
to these coaches and say, all right, tell me your name,

(31:24):
your title, and what exactly do you do. So I'm
going to come back to you next year with answers
for all these titles, and we can just we'll break
it down.

Speaker 4 (31:32):
I hope so, because they're going to say the same thing. Okay,
now help them with their infield skills.

Speaker 3 (31:41):
No, they now, now we're giving them advanced warning. Welcome
up with something better than that. All right, guys, well
this is this has been a lot of fun today.
We started today talking about Mason Miller.

Speaker 1 (31:50):
Mason Miller pitching representing TENUSA WBC. That will either worry
or excite the fan bases of the Padres or maybe
the Mets or who knows who's also who's in play
for Mason Miller. Also the five biggest stories of the
Padre season, Kyle Glazer, you and I were on the
same page for number one, and that's gonna be John
Siler putting the Padres up for sale and how it's

(32:11):
going to just really affect everything it does. The uncertainty,
I mean, no one knows just gonna happen, another slow
off season.

Speaker 3 (32:18):
What does it mean for A. J. Prowler's extension.

Speaker 1 (32:20):
By the way, that didn't even make my top five,
which is crazy.

Speaker 3 (32:24):
It should have because it is December eighteenth.

Speaker 1 (32:26):
Let me check my email. AJ Prewler does not have
an extension. And we were seeing a month and a
half ago that the extension could come the end of
the week, a month and a half ago.

Speaker 3 (32:40):
Complete silence.

Speaker 1 (32:41):
We have no news. We'll see what happens. One more thing, Kyle,
we didn't mention this. We're gonna start launching a mailbag.
So if you have questions that you want to ask
Kyle Heath myself, kemmy cam when he joins the show,
your padres questions, your fashion questions, you want to know
what an assistant pitching coach does. Send us your questions.
You can tag us on our on our Twitter accounts

(33:03):
at Kyle Glazer, at Marty Caswell, Heith what is your
your Twitter account?

Speaker 3 (33:07):
I need to look this up.

Speaker 4 (33:08):
It's like Heith fell twenty one I think.

Speaker 1 (33:11):
Twenty one or at Friar Territory And we will answer
your questions on our next show.

Speaker 3 (33:16):
Did I hit it all Kyle?

Speaker 2 (33:17):
And I believe so? Marty nailed it all?

Speaker 1 (33:20):
Right? Guys, thank you so much for watching Friar Territory.
I'm gonna nail this. We are on the Foul Territory Network.

Speaker 3 (33:28):
Have a look at this. Did you bake that?

Speaker 4 (33:31):
Your you did?

Speaker 3 (33:34):
What was you gonna say? I see you rolled? And
the kids, very nice, very nice speaking to kids.

Speaker 1 (33:41):
I survived six seven day at our school yesterday, sixth
seven day.

Speaker 3 (33:44):
It's terrible. Anyways, Alur, guys, No, you have to do
the wine six seven, six seven. You have to do
the wine with it too. So come on, Kyle, come on, no, no.

Speaker 2 (33:56):
I see see this thing I'm now in that mid
thirty eight going to be I'm not gonna be the
dad who's trying too hard to be cool. I'm just
gonna be like, all right, you do your thing. I'm
gonna do me and we'll roll with that.

Speaker 1 (34:10):
Gonna that's anybody does anybody?

Speaker 3 (34:14):
Did anybody here get a skimity toilet toy?

Speaker 2 (34:17):
Never mind, we're still my We're in prime princess mode
right now. It's a lot of you know, sparkles and
unicorns and.

Speaker 4 (34:28):
Then yeah, yeah done.

Speaker 2 (34:34):
No, my my daughter is experimenting with doing her own
nails now and with my wife. She has not experimented
on me. I'm sure at some point that will come
and I'll deal with that when the time comes. But
has it yet?

Speaker 3 (34:45):
Right then?

Speaker 1 (34:46):
Okay, I'm gonna go ahead and put in a request
for the one of the next pictures that we talked
to you on this show. And that's gonna be Jason Adam,
because Jason Adam is a father of four little girls,
and he can nail every single print, says story out there.
It is unbelievable. Jason Adam is a must for the show.
A great personality, great dude, and this man knows his

(35:08):
Disney princesses.

Speaker 2 (35:09):
Yeah, we had him on back in August, I believe,
unfortunately just before his injury. And yeah, and look, Jason
is a great guy. Knew him in Tampa and then
covering twenty twenty three and then with the Potters. Yeah,
he's he's as good as it gets. And we hope
he is having a speedy recovery and that he will
be able to be back as soon as possible, because
a the Potteris could certainly use him and be You

(35:30):
just hope the best for everyone, but especially guys like him.

Speaker 1 (35:33):
I'm gonna ask him what his assistant pitching strategist does.
All right, thanks, guys, we're wrapping this thing up. Friar territory,
foul Territory. I'm Marty Caswell, that's Kyle Glazer, that's he
fell have a wonderful day.
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