May 23, 2024 • 50 mins
Do you remember the pure joy of blowing into a cartridge and firing up your favorite video game on a lazy Saturday morning? That's right, Tex and I are back, this time journeying through the pixelated landscapes of our childhoods, reveling in the glory days of gaming. We're not just talking about nostalgia here; we're discussing how the warm, analog memories of classic consoles like the NES and the charm of characters that have become cultural icons have shaped the way we see and play games today. From frying eggs on Arizona sidewalks to the economic impacts on our gaming habits, we cover it all, including the infamous E.T. game debacle and the saga of our evolving console loyalties.
As Tex reminisces about the magic of unwrapping a Nintendo and diving into Super Mario Brothers, I'm right there, painting the picture of the early gaming accessories that made us feel like we were touching the future—one Power Glove at a time. The saga continues as we reflect on the technological missteps like Sega CD and the unique way our friends' gaming libraries swayed our console choices back in the day. Fast forward to the present, and we're exploring our current preferences within the Xbox ecosystem and the PS5's innovations, all the while nodding to the quirks and qualities that have endured over the years.
But what about today's gaming trends, you ask? Well, Tex and I don't hold back on our critiques of the frustrating limitations of non-transferable in-game purchases and the burgeoning culture of microtransactions. We wax poetic about the simplicity of old-school baseball video games, compare the cartoony racing fun of Mario Kart to the more serious racers of today, and even admit to our waning interest in the Grand Theft Auto series. Every chapter of this podcast is a level up in the game of life, with us as your trusty sidekicks. So ready your earbuds and power up your nostalgia; we're about to press 'start' on a gaming conversation that spans from joystick jolts to modern masterpieces.
As Tex reminisces about the magic of unwrapping a Nintendo and diving into Super Mario Brothers, I'm right there, painting the picture of the early gaming accessories that made us feel like we were touching the future—one Power Glove at a time. The saga continues as we reflect on the technological missteps like Sega CD and the unique way our friends' gaming libraries swayed our console choices back in the day. Fast forward to the present, and we're exploring our current preferences within the Xbox ecosystem and the PS5's innovations, all the while nodding to the quirks and qualities that have endured over the years.
But what about today's gaming trends, you ask? Well, Tex and I don't hold back on our critiques of the frustrating limitations of non-transferable in-game purchases and the burgeoning culture of microtransactions. We wax poetic about the simplicity of old-school baseball video games, compare the cartoony racing fun of Mario Kart to the more serious racers of today, and even admit to our waning interest in the Grand Theft Auto series. Every chapter of this podcast is a level up in the game of life, with us as your trusty sidekicks. So ready your earbuds and power up your nostalgia; we're about to press 'start' on a gaming conversation that spans from joystick jolts to modern masterpieces.
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D Vaz (00:00):
Welcome back for episode two.
And somehow you eitheraccidentally did this or, if
it's intentional, we thank you.
But either way, you're here.
From the Hoods to Backwoodspodcast.
(00:25):
Welcome to the show.
So I got Tex over here with me,and how?
You doing Tex.
Tex LaFon (00:37):
I'm doing good D how you doing.
D Vaz (00:40):
Doing all right.
Just, you know, out here inArizona we're getting a little
bit warmer weather, so it's notlooking forward to the 300 and
something dollar AC bills thatwill probably be coming here
pretty soon.
But other than that things aregoing pretty well.
Tex LaFon (00:56):
But you can cook outside though, right?
D Vaz (00:58):
Yeah, yeah, definitely we have to hit up the grill, or
something like that.
Tex LaFon (01:01):
I was talking about it's so hot.
You can just put a pan outthere and cook up the grill, or
something like that.
D Vaz (01:05):
I'll talk about it so high you can just put a pan out
there and cook.
We actually did that back ingrade school.
Um, we made a solar oven and weput a turkey in it and it
actually got cooked all the waythrough not quite.
Yeah, the the um science teacherwas the one that was doing the
(01:27):
experiment and they end upfinishing in the oven because
they're like, yeah, I'm notgonna serve this to kids because
they're like, oh, we want toeat it, you know so and then
everybody's like, yeah, we'renot gonna serve kids, but you.
You can cook other things onthe sidewalk and stuff like that
, like people have done, if youwant to waste food, which I I
wouldn't condone, but hey nowwith inflation what's that?
Tex LaFon (01:47):
so now, with inflation, right now, you don't
want to be wasting no food yeah,yeah, no thanks, so anyway.
D Vaz (01:54):
So that that's what's going on out here, with your,
your quick weather report.
Uh, today, though, we're goingto be talking about gaming,
video games.
Uh, being that we've beenplaying for a long time, we've
definitely seen some changes,and we started out when gaming
was still kind of a new youngthing, like we used to be.
Tex LaFon (02:17):
I don't know who you're talking about.
I'm still young, son.
D Vaz (02:21):
Yes, you are.
Tex LaFon (02:22):
I drink Red Bull, so I'm still young.
D Vaz (02:23):
Okay, I was going to say say you're probably about 75 red
bull at this point keeps youenergized, true?
So, um, I mean again, we we'vebeen playing games for a long
time, so where did you kind ofstart as far as, like the, the
first game, that that got youinto gaming, that you can
(02:44):
remember well, I remember thiswas probably back in 1987.
Tex LaFon (02:49):
I was seven years old and, uh, my grandma, she got me
a nintendo for christmas and Iwas so excited and, of course,
original super mario brothers,that's what it was.
That's what got me hooked, thevery first video game I ever
played in my life.
And I non-stop just trying tobeat all levels.
If I wouldn't known all thetricks back in the day where I
(03:09):
could warp all the way to leveleight and take out bowser right
off the bat, that would havebeen dope.
But no, you know.
And also, what's crazy backthen is you know how it's a side
scroll, so you know, is youknow the screen catches up to
you die.
So that's what's so crazy aboutthe games back then, you know.
But it was always.
Uh, super mario brothers wasthe very first game that I ever
(03:31):
played and that got me hookedright off the bat.
What about you d?
D Vaz (03:35):
uh, it was kind of a weird combination of two
different games.
Actually, the first one I canremember playing.
I went to go visit a family inohio and and my cousin had more
money than we did so they had acomputer way back then, which
was pretty rare back in the 80s.
So I was probably I was aboutfour years old and they
introduced me some games on thecomputer.
I was like, okay, this is fun.
(03:57):
But as far as what I actuallygot and started playing was an
Atari, and I remember having theET game, the one that is kind
of famous for being a huge bustin the in the video game world
because it came out and justgive people a quick history on
(04:19):
it.
So the ET game got released togo along with the ET movie and
they actually had a glitch inthe game, so the game was pretty
useless.
So, you know, to go along withthe ET movie and they actually
had a glitch in the game, so thegame was pretty useless.
So, and you know, back then youhad to just buy the cartridge
so you had the game itself.
You couldn't do updates anddownloads and stuff like that.
So anyway, I actually had thatgame and I didn't know.
(04:41):
I was really young at the thetime, so I had no clue that it
was a broken game.
So I just kept trying to playit and I kept getting stuck and
anyway that, and I would playlike Indiana Jones that they had
on the, on the Atari.
So Atari was actually my firstconsole and that's kind of what
got me hooked into gaming oh,okay, you know that that was the
beginning of it, but of courseyou and I both had a lot of
(05:04):
different consoles over theyears.
So what consoles have you hadsince the beginning?
Tex LaFon (05:10):
Well, I just want to touch back on.
But the game that got me themost hooked, besides Mario
Brothers because that was theonly game that was out at the
time was Contra.
And then after Contra it wasgame over, because then
everybody was hooked andeverybody remembers the original
Contra because that game waslegit.
(05:31):
But the consoles I've had arewe talking about, my whole
entire life.
D Vaz (05:37):
Yeah, and real quick on Contra 2,.
Do you remember the code at all?
Tex LaFon (05:41):
Of course.
Would you like me to tell youthe code, son, yeah, yeah go for
it.
D Vaz (05:45):
Okay, show off that knowledge all right.
Tex LaFon (05:46):
All right, let's see uh up down, up down, left right,
left right ba start nice isthat right?
I'm pretty sure that's rightwe'll have I.
D Vaz (05:58):
I think that's right, but uh, I'm sure we're gonna have
fact checkers either way that'sright, and when I go back and
and re-watch this, we'll see butall right, so all right.
Tex LaFon (06:09):
So I had the original nes, which I still have, um,
then I had the super nes, then Ihad the sega, then the sega cd,
then I had n64, then I hadPlayStation, playstation 2,
playstation 3, xbox and thenXbox 1 and then PlayStation 5,
(06:36):
and then PS4, and then PS5 andthen the Xbox X and Xbox S.
The only thing I didn't have wasatari, basically yeah, and a
lot of people probably don'teven know what sega cd is, but
that was the supposed to be thenext gen that failed miserably
(06:57):
after like three games right,yeah, no, I I have no idea,
because I was so young, wherethat atari came from.
D Vaz (07:05):
I just know, um, somehow my dad got one for me and uh,
but yeah, after the atari it wasdefinitely nintendo and I even
had the power pad.
Tex LaFon (07:15):
I don't know if you remember that at all.
Did you have the glove?
Running game did you have theglove, the power glove I.
D Vaz (07:22):
Power glove.
Actually I got it and then itwas terrible, so I returned it
and I got a whole bunch of GIJoes and other stuff.
Tex LaFon (07:31):
It was garbage.
D Vaz (07:33):
Yeah, yeah, because I just remember sitting there
trying to play Mike Tyson'sPunch-Out and it had the weird
controls where you would moveyour fingers.
If you're not familiar with thepower glove, it's something
that nintendo released um, andit was basically a game
controller glove thing that thatgoes on your hand you can just
play different games.
(07:53):
But yeah, it was somethingweird, like when you move your
thumb it would be b and you moveyour index fingers a or
whatever.
It just was terrible and itdidn't work right.
So, yeah, I I had one, but Ireturned it and got some toys
and stuff like that.
But yeah, so I went from AtariNintendo.
After that I went the SegaMaster System route and after
(08:19):
the Sega Master System I hadGenesis and then I didn't do See
, that's the thing I didn't doSuper Nintendo, because my best
friend at the time had a SuperNintendo.
Tex LaFon (08:32):
So he had that covered.
D Vaz (08:34):
I had the Genesis covered .
So we're like alright, we'regood, you come to my house and
we play, and I'll go to yourhouse and play Whatever.
So that was all covered.
After that, ps1, ps2, you knowwhatever.
So that was all covered, uh.
After that, uh, ps1, ps2,dreamcast uh, try to go back to
sega.
Uh, dreamcast is actuallypretty fun.
That's the funny thing aboutthat too is actually that sort
(08:56):
of got my dad into video gamesfor a little while because they
had some racing games so my dadactually had the dreamcast yeah,
I forgot about the dream.
I forgot about the dreamcastyeah, yeah, so had that, let's
see dreamcast.
Then, um, xbox 360 I got.
I didn't get the original xbox,and then, uh, xbox s is what I
(09:21):
have now, and then then alsoNintendo switch, because I have
kids.
So that's the only other thingthat I've gotten from Nintendo.
Tex LaFon (09:30):
And, uh, one thing I never understood is when they
made the I mean, I did have theWii, but then when they made the
HD, which I didn't understandthat, and then they went to the
Switch.
But the Switch is all right, Ilike the Switch, but, like I
(09:52):
said, I didn't understand thewhole concept of the HD that
they made.
I think they were just tryingto finally make a system that
could play high definitiongaming, since all the other ones
could already do it and the Wiicouldn't do it, you know.
D Vaz (10:05):
Yeah, that's the weird thing about it.
Tex LaFon (10:07):
didn't make any sense to me on the Nintendo that they
didn't uh try to go on withthat when they made the Wii yeah
, nintendo's always been behindwhen it comes to graphics and
stuff like.
D Vaz (10:20):
That's the weird thing about them.
They have some interestingaccessories that they, they try
to do.
But yeah, graphics is like,yeah, kids are playing, we don't
care, you know, as long asthey're having fun, which is
it's okay too, because theirgames typically are, are pretty
fun.
But uh, yeah, I've kind of gotstuck in the, uh, microsoft xbox
(10:42):
world, uh, for the last fewyears or past decade.
I guess I appreciatePlayStation and the games and I
would like to have one of thoseconsoles too, but since I don't
have too much time for gaminganymore, I just stick with the
Xbox.
Tex LaFon (10:59):
And I like PlayStation.
Just being honest, I like thecontrollers way better than the
xbox I just xbox controller.
D Vaz (11:09):
I had to get used to it first, that's.
Tex LaFon (11:11):
That's just kind of how it was um I'm just saying
the, the ps5 controller comparedto the xbox controller is night
and day difference because, uh,what they've done with the ps5
controller is amazing.
If you ever get to you know,play a ps5, you'll see what I'm
talking about.
It's just a nine day differencecompared to the, even the xbox
(11:33):
x controller yeah, that's what Iwas gonna say.
D Vaz (11:36):
I think maybe at the most I've played a ps5, you know, at
the store or whatever for abouttwo minutes at the very most.
So yeah, I haven't really had achance to check it out.
Like I said, I'd be open tohaving both, but just don't have
the time.
Tex LaFon (11:50):
Same here, of course, having kids.
D Vaz (11:51):
There's other stuff you can buy.
Tex LaFon (11:53):
Exactly.
Well, yeah, exactly.
D Vaz (11:59):
All right.
So you know, from that point on, do you have a favorite gaming
character or anything like that,or honorable mentions too?
Tex LaFon (12:09):
well, yeah, my favorite gaming character would
be probably from the um god ofwar series kratos.
Uh, like I said, that's a sonyuh game for just the playstation
, but, uh, ever since I've beenplaying and god of war, uh, that
character is just amazing andthe story behind him and the
origin story it's just uh, youknow the character that you know
(12:33):
.
You either like or you don'tlike, but I just thought it's a
very, very cool character thatwas made.
And then, um, also honorablementions I would have to go with
, like you said, I know he'smore of a movie character than
he is a video game character,but Friday the 13th, when that
game came out on the PS4, waslegit.
(12:53):
When you got to play as Jasonand go around terrorizing
everybody, it was legit, it waslike the old school movie.
And then also I would sayMortal Kombat.
You know I had to go withScorpion, but honorable mention
with all the new ones that cameout Terminator, I go with Alien
(13:16):
character, and then FreddyGugger on Mortal Kombat.
So yeah, they were probably myfavorite characters all right.
D Vaz (13:24):
No, it's a solid lineup and we found out on the second
podcast you like terrorizedteenagers in at least video game
form well, hey, you gottaescape it's.
Tex LaFon (13:37):
It's fun.
D Vaz (13:37):
Like I said, you play friday 13, so you know what I'm
talking about yeah, yeah, forfor those that haven't played or
aren't really familiar with the, the movies.
Basically, uh, you're in a, acampground, wooded type area and
you have to try to escape fromjason, who's this crazy monster,
(13:58):
killer, villain, and uh, yeah,he can set traps for you and
things like that.
So it's it's.
It's.
It's pretty fun in the sensethat you're trying to figure out
ways to escape and he's tryingto just figure out ways to kill
you and that's pretty much allhe cares about.
Tex LaFon (14:14):
Yeah, that's why I'm wearing my Camp Crystal Lake
t-shirt.
Son.
D Vaz (14:18):
Nice.
So for me, probably going wayback to the Street Fighter days,
uh, ryu, the funny thing aboutthat.
When I first started playingstreet fighter though uh, street
fighter 2, I should say I usedto play blanca mostly, just I
(14:38):
don't know.
That's the first character, thatkind of I kind of liked and all
that.
But as I got older and they didmore with the Street Fighter
characters and things like that,yeah, ryu was the one I started
using more.
I thought he had a little bitmore of an interesting story,
even though he's a little whinysometimes.
(14:58):
True true, pretty good character.
But yeah, honorable mentions,like you mentioned too, scorpion
and Sub-Zero too.
I like both of them especially,kind of the same thing.
Their, their story is kind offun, um, as far as interesting.
And then megaman I just Ireally liked uh, the megaman
(15:18):
games and getting all thedifferent abilities and stuff
like that, well before uh, kirbyor anything like that.
So it was was just kind of funhaving those different things.
Tex LaFon (15:30):
Right right.
D Vaz (15:32):
What would you say are some of the differences or maybe
the biggest difference betweengaming back in the day and
gaming now?
Tex LaFon (15:42):
One big difference from back then and now is when
you wanted to actually playvideo games with someone else,
you would actually have to go totheir house to play, because
there was no online capabilityback then, so you actually had
to go to your friend's house toplay multiplayer games.
Now you can just turn on theinternet and play with whoever's
(16:05):
playing online, and that's thebig difference.
You actually had to drive toyour friend's house and actually
, you know, hang out over thereall day just to play games,
compared to now where you canjust stay home and play all day
online.
That's the biggest difference Isee now.
Besides, you know graphicupgrades and you know stuff like
that, but I'm just that's thebiggest difference I see is like
(16:25):
, back then, you know the mostyou could play at one time is
just two people.
You know you versus your friend.
Now you can play you know youversus 160 people online at one
time.
D Vaz (16:38):
So that's the biggest difference I see from from now
and then yeah, I, I do have alove-hate relationship with that
too, because, having kids andeverything, we all can play one
game at the same time.
That's pretty fun and it getscrazier.
Everybody gets loud and excitedabout the game.
(16:59):
But the other thing that's kindof weird to me now, especially
if I go play Nintendo Switchwith the kids and we play the
older games, the older gameswhere you would actually lose,
you know, I mean, or you knowyou had to, uh, start over from
the beginning because you, youran out of lives or whatever the
(17:20):
case is now.
It's like you can't really failvideo games you have to.
You just keep playing and I andI get it.
But it's just kind of weirdwhen I uh noticed that and
looked at it, because I wasplaying some of the older games
and my kids would get frustratedbecause, like you know, oh you
know restarted, or I don't wantto play this because this is
like too tough or too crazy, andit's like, oh yeah, that's, it
(17:43):
wasn't how it was, but you know,back then we would just spend
time to keep playing it and tryto get better at it.
Kids don't have the patiencefor that anymore.
They're just like, eh, go playanother game now.
Tex LaFon (17:54):
Yeah, they get really frustrated and then they just
want to quit If they die a lot.
Now, I mean, that's just how itis.
I agree with you.
It's like they have ultimatelives or they can save at any
point.
Back in the day you couldn'tsave.
Like you said, if you died youstarted all the way back over.
And that was very frustrating,especially when, like old school
(18:15):
NES game, friday the 13th, youdied in that game.
You started all the way backover.
And then that's when youwouldn't want to play no more
because you're like I ain'tgoing to redo all this again.
D Vaz (18:27):
But then you would, because then you're looking
forward so well, that's, I wasgonna say, that's.
That's the other thing too.
I mean, now you can just jumpinto different games, especially
if you have a subscription.
You can bounce around back inthe day.
You know you either had to, youknow that's the other thing.
You bought the game.
You were stuck with that game.
You know your parents weren'tabout to hear you say oh, I
(18:49):
don't want to play that.
They're like I just spent moneyon that game.
You know you wanted it, you'regonna play it.
So you had to play some, somegames you didn't really want.
Or if later on, when there wasrentals for games, the same
thing, you know you would rentone, maybe, if you're lucky, a
couple games, and if one of themwas terrible and that was it,
(19:10):
you were kind of stuck with it.
You already, you already rentedit.
You couldn't just playsomething else right, right yeah
so that's another bigdifference.
They just don't know how, howgood they have it with all the
being able to jump arounddifferent games and and just you
know, being like you said, savemultiple points and and not
have to start over from thebeginning.
Tex LaFon (19:32):
Yeah, and like you said, like you know you pay for
Xbox, you know subscription andyou get all them games that you
can just play, that Causethey're all included with the
subscription.
So it's like, like you said, itain't like it was back in the
day you get one game, probablyonce every six months.
If you're lucky, you get a newgame.
It wasn't like you can just geta new game whenever it came on
(19:56):
the Xbox subscription.
Boom, there you go.
D Vaz (20:01):
Yeah, that's the big difference.
Yeah, plus, you had to actuallygo to the store.
Tex LaFon (20:04):
Exactly.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
D Vaz (20:10):
Yeah, it was way different having access to games
.
So that's, yeah, where peopleare definitely lucky now just
being able to play just aboutany game you want at any time
yep um, so what?
What type of types of games doyou like?
What do you usually play?
Tex LaFon (20:25):
well, I like to play mostly like horror, suspense,
you know, like um scary gamesyeah, wait.
D Vaz (20:36):
Like horrors and suspense no, poor.
Tex LaFon (20:41):
And then like, uh, and then um, like fighting games
.
I not, I like call of duty, butmostly zombies, not multiplayer
shooting games, because, youknow, nowadays, as you get older
, your reflexes slow down andyou get destroyed, like, so
mostly I just like to play um,just shooting, like, mostly
(21:06):
fighting games.
And, um, you know, sports gamesevery now and then.
But the the problem with thegames now is like they want you
to pay for all them, uh, uh,loot boxes, which is so annoying
so, like you know.
So it's hard to even play agame now without having to pay
for all this extra stuff, justto even play the game.
(21:26):
But that's what I mostly liketo play.
What about you?
D Vaz (21:31):
yeah, I um, same types of games enjoy.
Like, I do like to play a lotof different types of games.
Sometimes I'll even play kindof puzzle games where you have
to figure out how things workand you know in, like they stick
you in a room and you have tofigure out how to get the door
unlocked.
You know, sometimes I'll dostuff like that.
But yeah, usually first personshooters, uh, sports games, um,
(21:54):
adventure games, and then justyour kind of your standard again
, especially with the kids,fighting games like, uh, smash
brothers and and then that typeof stuff where you know your
character versus the other ones,um, but yeah, I I do like to
switch it up.
If there's something that'sunique I haven't seen a game
like it before I'll probably tryit out.
(22:14):
There's a game that my my sonfound on on accident and he
didn't really know what it wasabout and it's definitely not
really for kids.
Uh, that I ended up playing.
It's called carry on.
It's.
It's weird because it's areally low, low bit graphic uh
game, but it's uh kind of like aum the thing in in a sense.
(22:36):
You know, you're kind of like amonster form thing that uh goes
around you can take overpeople's bodies and attack them
and stuff like that, the movie,the thing, it's kind of like
that, but the you're talkingabout the movie the thing, it's
kind of like that, but thegame's called Carry On.
It's not based on the thing.
Tex LaFon (22:53):
But when you said it's like the thing, I don't
know if everybody understandsyou're talking about the movie,
the thing.
D Vaz (22:58):
Yeah, sorry, yeah, the movie with Kurt Russell way back
in the day, the one I like.
Tex LaFon (23:04):
Yeah, same here.
D Vaz (23:07):
Yeah, the one back in like 1984 I think yeah sorry
we're old and sometimes weforget that people don't
remember.
Tex LaFon (23:11):
Yeah, some of the old stuff we were saying I was just
trying to make sure that theymight want to know what you're
talking about?
D Vaz (23:17):
no, you're definitely right.
There's sure a lot of peopleare like what?
What.
Thing yeah, exactly so, uh,yeah, it's, it was kind of like
that.
So, um, that that's, uh,another game that's a little
unique, it's a little differentfrom other stuff I played, but I
liked it nice, nice oh then I,I had the um also.
(23:43):
What was the other civilization?
So I do like some of those andlike red alert, some of those
little ner, red alert, some ofthose little nerdy.
I've done my share of likediablo back in the day.
So some computer gaming, uh,not so much, just uh.
Now it's more console stuff,but yeah back in the day I did
did some computer gaming tooI've always been console, never
(24:04):
computers.
Tex LaFon (24:05):
I just don't like the keyboard and mouse.
I'm not a fan of that, like Iknow.
Some people are good at that,but not me.
D Vaz (24:12):
I'm all about just console all day, every day, son
it's just hard sometimes with onthe computer side, because you
know having to do upgrades on aregular basis and all that.
So that's one of the mainreasons I stopped doing it, as
like, uh, I don't want to haveto keep upgrading my, my system
on a regular basis.
You know cause I?
I will want to play the thenewer, more graphics, intensive
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games.
Tex LaFon (24:36):
Well, yeah, and then your laptop is, or your gaming
computer is already out of datein four months.
D Vaz (24:41):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Tex LaFon (24:49):
It's.
That's what's so funny about it.
That's why I stay with consoles.
And again I got you and I don'tlike the keyboard or mouse, son
, all right, just being honest,man, like some people, well, I'm
telling you, some people willagree, they don't.
They're either keyboard andmouse or they're, you know, just
a console.
D Vaz (25:01):
It's one or the other dude, because I'm telling you,
uh, I'm controller all day, nokeyboard and mouse yeah, no, I,
I definitely understand that I,because even um nintendo switch
having their kind of weirdcontrollers that they have, I
don't know I have a real lovehate relationship with those two
(25:23):
, especially certain games theylike try to make you use those.
Yeah, it's like I'm not reallytrying to learn how to use a
different type of controller no,I agree, I agree with you 100
all right.
So, um, what is an old schoolgame or a few old school games
that you wish would come back,you know, back in back in the
(25:45):
day that just isn't around foranymore anymore for any reason
well, first one is contra.
Tex LaFon (25:53):
I wish that game would come back and I wish uh
they would uh remake it and, um,come bring it back on to the
nintendo or the any system, tobe honest, but I know it's
mostly from nintendo from backin the day, but contra would be
dope.
I'd also like to see miketyson's punch out redone and
come back out, because that gamewas legit back in the day.
(26:16):
And then, uh, megaman.
Like they haven't made a newmegaman game in so long, it
would be dope if they uh finallymade a new megaman game yeah, I
think that would.
D Vaz (26:30):
That would be fun.
One one game, uh, that I reallyliked way back in the day and I
replayed it and it's pretty,pretty terrible.
But if they did a new versionof altered beast, you know, I
think that that could beinteresting because I thought
the story wasn't bad, it was allright and kind of the idea
behind.
You know who wouldn't want toplay as, like, a werewolf or
(26:50):
something like that?
Right, so I think the story wasall right, but yeah, it's a
pretty bad game now that I playit.
So if they did a new version Ithink that would be fun.
I definitely agree about Megaman 2.
They're due for something onthat front, but I don't know.
I sort of wish they tried a fewyears back.
(27:14):
But if they revived NBA Live anew, better version of that,
because back in the day, it waspretty fun.
Tex LaFon (27:27):
You're talking about in the 90s it was fun and then,
um, it crashed and like, once 2kcame out, uh, they couldn't
compete with 2k anymore yeah, no, 2k definitely took over, uh,
but that's the thing it's like.
D Vaz (27:43):
It's just nice to see some competition, you know.
That way you don't have to justgo with that.
It's the same thing.
On the football side of thingsSorry, american football, for
those of you not from aroundhere American football there's
Madden football games and theyhave exclusive rights at EA to
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do those games, so they don'thave any competition.
So it's just kind of the samething every year is what it
feels like, and at least thereat least, if there was a
different company making it,you'd have an option for a
different type of game, butstill playing basketball or
football well, I mean, the onegame that I did like, that I had
(28:26):
a little bit of competitionwith it, was back in like 2003,
I think, or 2004 NFL blitz.
Tex LaFon (28:32):
That was a fun game.
I wish they would remake thator, you know like, bring that
back with the new graphics andeverything, cause it was cool.
I really did like that waybetter than Madden.
D Vaz (28:42):
Yeah, those those types of arcades are pretty, pretty
fun, because they had the NHLhits, I think.
And then, of course, nba Jam isthat type of cartoonish arcade
type of game.
Tex LaFon (28:58):
He's on fire.
D Vaz (29:01):
That's the other thing too.
You just reminded me alsobaseball games back in the day.
I mean, they're so basic backthen and they're they're way
more complex now but those,those are those used to be
pretty fun it was.
It was kind of a mixed, mixedbag because, yeah, they were
easier but at the same time Idon't know, it just seemed
(29:22):
different, because back then,hitting a home run and
everything with the cheesygraphics, you know if you play
like RBI or anything like that.
Tex LaFon (29:31):
Oh yeah, it was real cheesy back then.
D Vaz (29:34):
Yeah, yeah.
So I mean, I haven't probablytried to play a baseball game in
probably about 10 years atleast, but I just remember
trying to swing.
I was like man, there's so manymechanics now, so many options,
just to swing.
Tex LaFon (29:47):
Right.
D Vaz (29:47):
It's kind of crazy.
Tex LaFon (29:49):
Well, remember when you're trying to play a baseball
game on the Wii you had to justyeah, or if you had to try to
do boxing on the Wii.
That was funny yeah.
D Vaz (30:02):
That'll wear you out.
Tex LaFon (30:04):
True, that was fun.
D Vaz (30:08):
Yeah, so that's what I was talking about earlier.
Nintendo they're good at comingup with accessories and unique
things and all that.
It's just I don't know.
If they were a little bitbetter with their graphics and
their technology, they'd be ableto do a lot more, and I think
they would appeal to not justkids as much true, true.
(30:31):
I mean, there's definitelyadults that love Nintendo and
that's good and that's fine andlike.
Like I said, I have fun playingwith my kids on the switch, but
if you know, I only got oneconsole, which most people only
have one at a time.
Uh, I would, I wouldn't go toswitch smash brothers honestly
is the number one reason why Ibought um bought that the switch
(30:54):
, because I really like smashbrothers and I figured my kids
would and fortunately I wasright.
Tex LaFon (30:59):
But uh, yeah, it's playstation 5 all day, what's?
D Vaz (31:05):
that it's 5 all day son ps5 all day um, I'm okay with
either, but I'm okay withstaying with the Xbox for now
too.
What about newer games?
Any certain newer games you'reinto?
Tex LaFon (31:23):
Well, the last game that I just started playing was
Helldivers 2.
, and that game is pretty dopebecause we have to save all
humanity.
Okay, son, that's funny.
D Vaz (31:37):
You have a choice or no, no no, that's the that, because
it's funny.
Tex LaFon (31:40):
The intro starts off like have you ever seen any
starship troopers?
D Vaz (31:44):
it's been a while, yeah, yeah, I've seen, yeah so it's.
Tex LaFon (31:47):
It reminds me of that movie playing hell divers too,
and it was funny Cause, uh, myfriends they were, uh, uh, my
coworkers at work they're alllike we need your help to save
all humanity.
I'm like, well, obviously youdon't need my help.
That bad, I haven't played inlike two months.
D Vaz (32:05):
But it was funny though, cause they they try pitching it
to me all the time, like get outof here.
It's just funny.
I would be like how much ofhumanity is left to save now if
I haven't played in two months.
Tex LaFon (32:18):
Yeah, exactly that's why I was asking.
I was like well, has the worldbeen taken over yet?
They're like no, well then youdon't need my help, just right,
you're doing all right, exactly,I was like y'all can handle it.
It's funny, but that's thenewest game I started playing
was a hill divers 2.
D Vaz (32:31):
It's pretty fun, yeah I really I haven't really played
anything new.
I think most of my gaming nowinvolves keeping the kids
entertained.
So I mean, I'd done some of thecall of duty typical stuff over
the last few years, but Ihaven't really played any of
that.
There's don't starve togetheris another game that was kind of
(32:53):
fun.
Um, overcooked yeah, again,mostly multiplayer games for me
now, especially stuff I do withthe kids.
But, um, then smash brothers,that you know, I have to keep
going back to that becausethat's the number one game that
my kids are playing.
So I, I still have fun withthat.
I've liked that since theoriginal version.
Um, but yeah, those kind of thethe main games.
(33:18):
Other than that I I don'treally play anything that's for
me in that sense.
But uh, as long as it's amultiplayer then then I'll
probably end up playing it Imean, the last thing that I
played before the Helldiver 2,was mostly zombies.
Tex LaFon (33:34):
you know, like when me and you would play, and you
know, what got me done with Callof Duty is how you can't bring
your characters over to the newgame.
Like you spend all that moneyon characters that you buy and
then, just because they come outof the new game, you can't
bring the characters over.
D Vaz (33:51):
So I like that frustrates me, so that's why I stopped
playing call of duty yeah, andyou kind of bring up, uh,
something else, and we wementioned it earlier with, like
loot boxes, but that that isanother big change in gaming.
Back in the day, when youbought the game, you had the
game and yeah but now you knowit's.
It's great that there'sadditional content, but at the
(34:12):
same time it's like it's neverending.
And I get it from a businessperspective, but it's just I
don't know.
It feels like you're not reallygetting your full money's worth
in that sense.
Tex LaFon (34:29):
Exactly.
D Vaz (34:30):
Especially, you can't really buy just the base game
anymore and enjoy it so much.
You know they they try to makeit to where you need those
add-ons.
You know, or it's either youplay a million hours on the game
to unlock stuff and and makeyour character upgrade to where
they're decent, or, hey, spendanother 20, we'll give you this
(34:50):
stuff included.
Tex LaFon (34:55):
Yeah, which is like yeah, and that's what's so
unfair about it, because you'replaying against people that
already have spent the money andso they're already way higher
ranked than you are, and soyou're just getting demolished
when you're playing.
D Vaz (35:06):
Yeah, well, it's funny because you mentioned also about
reflexes as we go on.
I think a bigger part of it isthe fact that we don't have the
time to spend on the games, like, like the kids, so they know
all the tricks but they're justso used to playing it, you know,
for however long, you knowevery day, or whatever the case
may be.
However, however often theyplay and, yeah, we, we get to
(35:30):
play once a week, maybe for afew hours, you know, just with
the schedule and all that, it'slike oh yeah, how do I play this
again?
Oh yeah, now I remember how toplay.
I just died five times exactly,exactly, all right.
Tex LaFon (35:45):
That's why you get frustrated.
You're like I'm done with thisgame and then you just whatever,
yeah, yeah so it's.
D Vaz (35:53):
It's not as much fun when you're just trying to figure it
out, and by the time you figureit out you know you have all
those issues.
So yeah, I definitely get that.
Um, what is a, a video gamethat you wish was made into a
movie that hasn't been made intoa movie that hasn't?
Tex LaFon (36:12):
been made into a movie yet.
Well, that is a great question.
What game do I wish was madeinto a movie?
D Vaz (36:22):
I would probably have to say, oh okay, let's go with Mega
man, okay, I think that thatwould be pretty, pretty
interesting, especially,especially seeing all the
different uh abilities and allthat is that you know would you
want it live action or morecartoonish, or what?
Tex LaFon (36:44):
I would want.
Uh, basically, I would wantlike a tv series that you know,
like with it instead of like amovie.
I want a TV series with itinstead of a movie.
I think a TV series,live-action TV series would be
pretty good for it, because thenyou wouldn't have to rush the
whole development of thecharacter and everything, and
that's what I would like to see.
(37:05):
Compared to a movie you knowhow a movie they try rushing it
and you only got so much timeand then that's it.
So I think a live action tvseries would be good I.
D Vaz (37:17):
I would like to see uh link in zelda.
I think that would be prettygood like an adventure type of
thing.
Tex LaFon (37:25):
You know I agree.
D Vaz (37:27):
Yeah, because I I think there's a lot of different stuff
they can.
They can it.
Yeah, I like it.
Live action also, yeah, tv showversion would be great.
But if they did like a threetrilogy, you know, trilogy of
movie, series of it, I thinkthat would be good too.
Tex LaFon (37:46):
Sure sure.
D Vaz (37:49):
All right.
What about on the flip side ofthings?
What games do you not like toplay, or what are games that you
really didn't like when youplayed them?
Tex LaFon (38:02):
well, uh, most of the games that I don't like to play
is like uh, diablo, don't likethat game.
Diablo, don't like that game,don't like Wizardry type games
or anything like that.
I just mostly like just, yeah,that's the games I really don't
(38:23):
like to play.
More like strategy games Don'tlike them.
Yeah, I just don't like them.
Aliens Fireteam Didn't like it.
Yeah, I just don't like likealiens fire team didn't like it
because more strategy like I,just more, just um, I just don't
like strategy games, just beinghonest yeah, for for me, uh,
(38:49):
yeah, back back in the day Iused to like racing games and
things like that.
D Vaz (38:54):
I don't know.
Now I don't really like them somuch.
Mario Kart and things like thatare fine because it's kind of
cartoony.
I like the type where you cankind of go off wherever and
drive.
That's all right with me.
It's kind of go off whereverand drive, you know that.
That that's all right with me.
It's kind of fun.
Like there's a like the legoones and stuff like that you can
(39:16):
kind of again still kind ofcartoony, but the ones that are
supposed to be simulation, morerealistic, I don't know, I just
they're not as fun to me anymore.
Probably the other thing toolack of a steering wheel right,
I can agree with that yeah, likeback in the day my dad had the
the full steering wheel setup,uh, for the dreamcast and that
(39:39):
was actually pretty fun too.
But yeah, um, yeah, I, I don'tknow, that's probably about the
only I don't know.
Of course I wouldn't like somesports games like golf.
That would be just boring to me.
I remember trying to play itback in the day.
It's like I don't even likewatching golf myself just
(40:00):
because growing up mygrandmother and my aunt would
watch it and I would be forcedto watch it back then, because
that's another thing that'sreally changed is know, you
usually had one tv, maybe twotvs, in the house back in the
day true now you get one inevery room yeah, especially if
you're at like a grandparent'shouse, though, then oh yeah yeah
(40:22):
, they probably only have one tv.
Oh, yeah but yeah, so you had towatch whatever they wanted to
watch.
That's just how it was backthen and is either that or be
bored, or go play outside orplay in the other room.
So golf is just something I'dnever really took to, and
especially trying to play golfgames.
Tex LaFon (40:39):
I've tried a few times over the years and, yeah,
no thanks yeah, I, like you said, I'm not big in the golf games
either.
But yeah, mostly I don't likestrategy games.
And you made a good point aboutthe car games.
Like they're not fun eitheranymore either.
I agree with you on that too.
They're not.
They're not like they used tobe.
D Vaz (40:58):
The last fun car game that I played was knee for speed
pursuit and that was it yeahthat was actually fun, but other
than that, no yeah, and it'sfunny too, because you can um,
customize stuff more than everand all that, but again, like
you said, it goes back to thepain.
Yeah, you, you can customize it, but that's just so you can.
(41:21):
You can pay for it.
Oh, and I have to give anhonorable mention too.
I can't believe this gamedidn't come up but the, the gta
series grand theft auto grandtheft auto.
Yeah, so yeah, yeah, back inGTA series.
Grand Theft, auto Grand Theft.
Auto, yeah, so yeah, Back in theday I used to play those.
I haven't really played in along time.
Tex LaFon (41:38):
Well, they're probably coming out with that
new one next year or 2025, Ithink.
D Vaz (41:43):
That's the next year yeah , it's always next year for
Grand Theft Auto 6.
Tex LaFon (41:48):
Well, at least you finally got a trailer for it.
D Vaz (41:51):
Right.
Yeah, so yeah, that's thatmeans they actually are working
on it, that's one of those gameswhere you just goof around with
it.
You know you're not I mean thestory mode and the old ones.
I don't.
I haven't really played.
I haven't played gta5 in areally long time.
I have it, I got it, you know,around the time it came out, you
know, which is a really longtime ago now, and I, I think I
(42:15):
maybe played halfway through thestory mode.
Uh, I didn't finish it.
It wasn't bad, it's just, Idon't know, wasn't too
interested anymore so it's fun,one of those fun games where you
can just mess around with it.
But if I jumped in there nowfrom the videos I've seen it I
would have no idea what's goingon it's like a cartoon now, true
(42:38):
, but uh, are there any othergames that we haven't mentioned
that you like?
Or because I'm surprised gtadidn't come up?
But yeah, grand, grand.
I remember playing the originalgrand theft auto back in the
day too well I never played.
Tex LaFon (42:55):
I didn't play gta very much, to be honest, so
that's why, yeah, I'm not sayingthat I wouldn't play.
I just never have played itthat much.
So I I know a lot of people sayfive is really good, I just
never played it.
So because, just like you said,I hardly have any time to play
any games right.
D Vaz (43:19):
Um, yeah, there's another game, gigabash.
I play on the switch.
It's pretty fun, it's on, uh,multiple consoles too.
But, uh, the thing I like aboutI don't know if you're familiar
with it at all, but what it isit's basically a monster
fighting game and it hasgodzilla in it godzilla is my
favorite monster character ofall time.
(43:40):
So, uh, since it has that inthere, I usually get godzilla or
the mecha robot godzilla, andthen, you know, terrorize my
kids with that.
So that's pretty fun yeah, Ithink that's.
(44:00):
I'm sure afterwards I'm gonna belike oh yeah, there's another
game that I used to play a lot.
But I mean, I used to play,like I said, the live series a
lot, the Madden series back inthe day Street Fighter.
I used to play, like I said,the live series a lot, the
Madden series back in the day,street Fighter of course, and
Mortal Kombat.
Tex LaFon (44:18):
Another game that's really good is Devil May Cry.
D Vaz (44:22):
Yeah, I remember playing the original one.
Tex LaFon (44:24):
I played the first two.
D Vaz (44:25):
I think I played the first two.
I don't think I played afterthat.
Yeah, that was good.
Oh, Resident Evil was prettygood too.
Tex LaFon (44:32):
Yeah, you can't leave out Resident Evil.
That's always been a goodseries.
D Vaz (44:36):
That was the first kind of creepy game.
I can remember when the firstone came out, because I remember
a friend of mine told methey're like yeah, because of
course back then the graphicswere like wow.
Tex LaFon (44:49):
Yeah, on the original PlayStation, but my friend's
like man.
D Vaz (44:51):
What's that?
On the original playstationyeah, yeah, because my friend
was like man, I can't play thisgame in the dark.
And I was like what?
And then I, you know, he showedme.
I was like, oh yeah, it'spretty, pretty creepy for back
then sure, that's, that's theother thing.
I mean, you have to remember howmuch graphics and everything
(45:12):
technology has changed over theyears.
So the way that uh games are,you know, we react to the games
now and what we expect it's it'sway different from when we had
a lot of the stuff we've seenfor the first time, because I
remember mortal combat.
Tex LaFon (45:26):
The fact that it had blood was a huge deal oh yeah,
you know, and um and then youcan do the fire.
D Vaz (45:33):
You remember that before that even.
Tex LaFon (45:35):
I'm just saying like, especially when you could do
them finishing moves and no onehad ever seen that.
When you're ripping outpeople's spines, you know, back
in like early nineties, you'relike, whoa, this is crazy, or
you know you rip the mask offand you burn them and they go to
bones, yeah, like so.
D Vaz (45:55):
Yeah, yeah, that was, that was new and different, for
sure.
And then I I remember evenbefore that some people were
kind of weird about, uh, archrivals basketball.
I don't know if you rememberthat, but it's a basketball game
you can like punch each otheryeah yeah, that was actually, uh
, something that was availableon nintendo switch, so I, I, I
pull, I pulled it up just out ofcuriosity.
I tried to play it and my kidsweren't having it.
(46:16):
They're like what is this?
So they're all about Kirby.
If they had a favorite videogame character right now, I'd
Pac-Man and Kirby.
Those are probably the two thatthey would go with, which is
funny, because I definitelyremember playing Pac-Man back in
the day my son.
(46:38):
He actually got into Pac-Manbecause of YouTube videos that
he saw, though Before he evenplayed the game he saw Pac-Man
on YouTube.
Tex LaFon (46:50):
Yeah, and that's what .
That's the way a lot of peoplenow see games before they play
them from the YouTube.
D Vaz (46:58):
Yeah, that's how he found out about Mario and Sonic and
all that well before he playedany of the games.
Tex LaFon (47:04):
Right, right you know .
D Vaz (47:05):
So that's another thing too.
When I have my Genesis havingSonic, that was the first game
that I had on that.
Tex LaFon (47:12):
Yeah, you got to get the rings.
D Vaz (47:13):
Right, Talk about the rings.
So yeah, it's been a lot ofchanges, good and bad, but I
don't know.
I'm curious about the nextgeneration consoles, what's
going to come out?
And I haven't even looked at VRstuff yet, you know, virtual
(47:36):
reality.
Tex LaFon (47:38):
I mean, I have an Arculus Rift like got it for my
son and it's pretty trippybecause I played Resident Evil
on it and it scared the hell outof me.
Man, I'm just being honest,like it was, it was intense,
(48:00):
like I was impressed with likehow intense it was, it was crazy
, it was.
D Vaz (48:04):
Yeah, it was intense so yeah, I, um, I don't know I my
biggest concern because Ihaven't really tried out
anything like that too much.
I have motion sickness.
Tex LaFon (48:16):
Oh yeah.
D Vaz (48:18):
So yeah, with the motion sickness, I don't know if I'd be
able to play.
Or if I do play, it would belike 10 minutes or what.
Right, right, yeah, I thinkthat pretty much, at least for
now, covers kind of some of thethe gaming, what, what we do and
what we've seen and all thatstuff over the years.
Anything else, uh, you want toadd to that?
Tex LaFon (48:40):
yeah, I just want to say I'm all about playstation 5,
thank you I think we I thinkwe've taken that away from this
conversation uh, one thing isdefinitive there yes, yeah, no,
xbox for me, okay.
Playstation, thank you.
And no, I'm not sponsored byplaystation okay right, that was
(49:03):
, that was the next question.
But yeah, so is that.
It is that a wrap, son?
And, as always, go Cowboys suckit, cowboys, alright that's all
for now.
If you want some more, you gottabuy yourself a ticket.
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Thanks for listening.
We're out.
Welcome back for episode two.
And somehow you eitheraccidentally did this or, if
it's intentional, we thank you.
But either way, you're here.
From the Hoods to Backwoodspodcast.
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Welcome to the show.
So I got Tex over here with me,and how?
You doing Tex.
Tex LaFon (00:37):
I'm doing good D how you doing.
D Vaz (00:40):
Doing all right.
Just, you know, out here inArizona we're getting a little
bit warmer weather, so it's notlooking forward to the 300 and
something dollar AC bills thatwill probably be coming here
pretty soon.
But other than that things aregoing pretty well.
Tex LaFon (00:56):
But you can cook outside though, right?
D Vaz (00:58):
Yeah, yeah, definitely we have to hit up the grill, or
something like that.
Tex LaFon (01:01):
I was talking about it's so hot.
You can just put a pan outthere and cook up the grill, or
something like that.
D Vaz (01:05):
I'll talk about it so high you can just put a pan out
there and cook.
We actually did that back ingrade school.
Um, we made a solar oven and weput a turkey in it and it
actually got cooked all the waythrough not quite.
Yeah, the the um science teacherwas the one that was doing the
(01:27):
experiment and they end upfinishing in the oven because
they're like, yeah, I'm notgonna serve this to kids because
they're like, oh, we want toeat it, you know so and then
everybody's like, yeah, we'renot gonna serve kids, but you.
You can cook other things onthe sidewalk and stuff like that
, like people have done, if youwant to waste food, which I I
wouldn't condone, but hey nowwith inflation what's that?
Tex LaFon (01:47):
so now, with inflation, right now, you don't
want to be wasting no food yeah,yeah, no thanks, so anyway.
D Vaz (01:54):
So that that's what's going on out here, with your,
your quick weather report.
Uh, today, though, we're goingto be talking about gaming,
video games.
Uh, being that we've beenplaying for a long time, we've
definitely seen some changes,and we started out when gaming
was still kind of a new youngthing, like we used to be.
Tex LaFon (02:17):
I don't know who you're talking about.
I'm still young, son.
D Vaz (02:21):
Yes, you are.
Tex LaFon (02:22):
I drink Red Bull, so I'm still young.
D Vaz (02:23):
Okay, I was going to say say you're probably about 75 red
bull at this point keeps youenergized, true?
So, um, I mean again, we we'vebeen playing games for a long
time, so where did you kind ofstart as far as, like the, the
first game, that that got youinto gaming, that you can
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remember well, I remember thiswas probably back in 1987.
Tex LaFon (02:49):
I was seven years old and, uh, my grandma, she got me
a nintendo for christmas and Iwas so excited and, of course,
original super mario brothers,that's what it was.
That's what got me hooked, thevery first video game I ever
played in my life.
And I non-stop just trying tobeat all levels.
If I wouldn't known all thetricks back in the day where I
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could warp all the way to leveleight and take out bowser right
off the bat, that would havebeen dope.
But no, you know.
And also, what's crazy backthen is you know how it's a side
scroll, so you know, is youknow the screen catches up to
you die.
So that's what's so crazy aboutthe games back then, you know.
But it was always.
Uh, super mario brothers wasthe very first game that I ever
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played and that got me hookedright off the bat.
What about you d?
D Vaz (03:35):
uh, it was kind of a weird combination of two
different games.
Actually, the first one I canremember playing.
I went to go visit a family inohio and and my cousin had more
money than we did so they had acomputer way back then, which
was pretty rare back in the 80s.
So I was probably I was aboutfour years old and they
introduced me some games on thecomputer.
I was like, okay, this is fun.
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But as far as what I actuallygot and started playing was an
Atari, and I remember having theET game, the one that is kind
of famous for being a huge bustin the in the video game world
because it came out and justgive people a quick history on
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it.
So the ET game got released togo along with the ET movie and
they actually had a glitch inthe game, so the game was pretty
useless.
So, you know, to go along withthe ET movie and they actually
had a glitch in the game, so thegame was pretty useless.
So, and you know, back then youhad to just buy the cartridge
so you had the game itself.
You couldn't do updates anddownloads and stuff like that.
So anyway, I actually had thatgame and I didn't know.
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I was really young at the thetime, so I had no clue that it
was a broken game.
So I just kept trying to playit and I kept getting stuck and
anyway that, and I would playlike Indiana Jones that they had
on the, on the Atari.
So Atari was actually my firstconsole and that's kind of what
got me hooked into gaming oh,okay, you know that that was the
beginning of it, but of courseyou and I both had a lot of
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different consoles over theyears.
So what consoles have you hadsince the beginning?
Tex LaFon (05:10):
Well, I just want to touch back on.
But the game that got me themost hooked, besides Mario
Brothers because that was theonly game that was out at the
time was Contra.
And then after Contra it wasgame over, because then
everybody was hooked andeverybody remembers the original
Contra because that game waslegit.
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But the consoles I've had arewe talking about, my whole
entire life.
D Vaz (05:37):
Yeah, and real quick on Contra 2,.
Do you remember the code at all?
Tex LaFon (05:41):
Of course.
Would you like me to tell youthe code, son, yeah, yeah go for
it.
D Vaz (05:45):
Okay, show off that knowledge all right.
Tex LaFon (05:46):
All right, let's see uh up down, up down, left right,
left right ba start nice isthat right?
I'm pretty sure that's rightwe'll have I.
D Vaz (05:58):
I think that's right, but uh, I'm sure we're gonna have
fact checkers either way that'sright, and when I go back and
and re-watch this, we'll see butall right, so all right.
Tex LaFon (06:09):
So I had the original nes, which I still have, um,
then I had the super nes, then Ihad the sega, then the sega cd,
then I had n64, then I hadPlayStation, playstation 2,
playstation 3, xbox and thenXbox 1 and then PlayStation 5,
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and then PS4, and then PS5 andthen the Xbox X and Xbox S.
The only thing I didn't have wasatari, basically yeah, and a
lot of people probably don'teven know what sega cd is, but
that was the supposed to be thenext gen that failed miserably
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after like three games right,yeah, no, I I have no idea,
because I was so young, wherethat atari came from.
D Vaz (07:05):
I just know, um, somehow my dad got one for me and uh,
but yeah, after the atari it wasdefinitely nintendo and I even
had the power pad.
Tex LaFon (07:15):
I don't know if you remember that at all.
Did you have the glove?
Running game did you have theglove, the power glove I.
D Vaz (07:22):
Power glove.
Actually I got it and then itwas terrible, so I returned it
and I got a whole bunch of GIJoes and other stuff.
Tex LaFon (07:31):
It was garbage.
D Vaz (07:33):
Yeah, yeah, because I just remember sitting there
trying to play Mike Tyson'sPunch-Out and it had the weird
controls where you would moveyour fingers.
If you're not familiar with thepower glove, it's something
that nintendo released um, andit was basically a game
controller glove thing that thatgoes on your hand you can just
play different games.
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But yeah, it was somethingweird, like when you move your
thumb it would be b and you moveyour index fingers a or
whatever.
It just was terrible and itdidn't work right.
So, yeah, I I had one, but Ireturned it and got some toys
and stuff like that.
But yeah, so I went from AtariNintendo.
After that I went the SegaMaster System route and after
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the Sega Master System I hadGenesis and then I didn't do See
, that's the thing I didn't doSuper Nintendo, because my best
friend at the time had a SuperNintendo.
Tex LaFon (08:32):
So he had that covered.
D Vaz (08:34):
I had the Genesis covered .
So we're like alright, we'regood, you come to my house and
we play, and I'll go to yourhouse and play Whatever.
So that was all covered.
After that, ps1, ps2, you knowwhatever.
So that was all covered, uh.
After that, uh, ps1, ps2,dreamcast uh, try to go back to
sega.
Uh, dreamcast is actuallypretty fun.
That's the funny thing aboutthat too is actually that sort
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of got my dad into video gamesfor a little while because they
had some racing games so my dadactually had the dreamcast yeah,
I forgot about the dream.
I forgot about the dreamcastyeah, yeah, so had that, let's
see dreamcast.
Then, um, xbox 360 I got.
I didn't get the original xbox,and then, uh, xbox s is what I
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have now, and then then alsoNintendo switch, because I have
kids.
So that's the only other thingthat I've gotten from Nintendo.
Tex LaFon (09:30):
And, uh, one thing I never understood is when they
made the I mean, I did have theWii, but then when they made the
HD, which I didn't understandthat, and then they went to the
Switch.
But the Switch is all right, Ilike the Switch, but, like I
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said, I didn't understand thewhole concept of the HD that
they made.
I think they were just tryingto finally make a system that
could play high definitiongaming, since all the other ones
could already do it and the Wiicouldn't do it, you know.
D Vaz (10:05):
Yeah, that's the weird thing about it.
Tex LaFon (10:07):
didn't make any sense to me on the Nintendo that they
didn't uh try to go on withthat when they made the Wii yeah
, nintendo's always been behindwhen it comes to graphics and
stuff like.
D Vaz (10:20):
That's the weird thing about them.
They have some interestingaccessories that they, they try
to do.
But yeah, graphics is like,yeah, kids are playing, we don't
care, you know, as long asthey're having fun, which is
it's okay too, because theirgames typically are, are pretty
fun.
But uh, yeah, I've kind of gotstuck in the, uh, microsoft xbox
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world, uh, for the last fewyears or past decade.
I guess I appreciatePlayStation and the games and I
would like to have one of thoseconsoles too, but since I don't
have too much time for gaminganymore, I just stick with the
Xbox.
Tex LaFon (10:59):
And I like PlayStation.
Just being honest, I like thecontrollers way better than the
xbox I just xbox controller.
D Vaz (11:09):
I had to get used to it first, that's.
Tex LaFon (11:11):
That's just kind of how it was um I'm just saying
the, the ps5 controller comparedto the xbox controller is night
and day difference because, uh,what they've done with the ps5
controller is amazing.
If you ever get to you know,play a ps5, you'll see what I'm
talking about.
It's just a nine day differencecompared to the, even the xbox
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x controller yeah, that's what Iwas gonna say.
D Vaz (11:36):
I think maybe at the most I've played a ps5, you know, at
the store or whatever for abouttwo minutes at the very most.
So yeah, I haven't really had achance to check it out.
Like I said, I'd be open tohaving both, but just don't have
the time.
Tex LaFon (11:50):
Same here, of course, having kids.
D Vaz (11:51):
There's other stuff you can buy.
Tex LaFon (11:53):
Exactly.
Well, yeah, exactly.
D Vaz (11:59):
All right.
So you know, from that point on, do you have a favorite gaming
character or anything like that,or honorable mentions too?
Tex LaFon (12:09):
well, yeah, my favorite gaming character would
be probably from the um god ofwar series kratos.
Uh, like I said, that's a sonyuh game for just the playstation
, but, uh, ever since I've beenplaying and god of war, uh, that
character is just amazing andthe story behind him and the
origin story it's just uh, youknow the character that you know
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.
You either like or you don'tlike, but I just thought it's a
very, very cool character thatwas made.
And then, um, also honorablementions I would have to go with
, like you said, I know he'smore of a movie character than
he is a video game character,but Friday the 13th, when that
game came out on the PS4, waslegit.
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When you got to play as Jasonand go around terrorizing
everybody, it was legit, it waslike the old school movie.
And then also I would sayMortal Kombat.
You know I had to go withScorpion, but honorable mention
with all the new ones that cameout Terminator, I go with Alien
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character, and then FreddyGugger on Mortal Kombat.
So yeah, they were probably myfavorite characters all right.
D Vaz (13:24):
No, it's a solid lineup and we found out on the second
podcast you like terrorizedteenagers in at least video game
form well, hey, you gottaescape it's.
Tex LaFon (13:37):
It's fun.
D Vaz (13:37):
Like I said, you play friday 13, so you know what I'm
talking about yeah, yeah, forfor those that haven't played or
aren't really familiar with the, the movies.
Basically, uh, you're in a, acampground, wooded type area and
you have to try to escape fromjason, who's this crazy monster,
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killer, villain, and uh, yeah,he can set traps for you and
things like that.
So it's it's.
It's.
It's pretty fun in the sensethat you're trying to figure out
ways to escape and he's tryingto just figure out ways to kill
you and that's pretty much allhe cares about.
Tex LaFon (14:14):
Yeah, that's why I'm wearing my Camp Crystal Lake
t-shirt.
Son.
D Vaz (14:18):
Nice.
So for me, probably going wayback to the Street Fighter days,
uh, ryu, the funny thing aboutthat.
When I first started playingstreet fighter though uh, street
fighter 2, I should say I usedto play blanca mostly, just I
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don't know.
That's the first character, thatkind of I kind of liked and all
that.
But as I got older and they didmore with the Street Fighter
characters and things like that,yeah, ryu was the one I started
using more.
I thought he had a little bitmore of an interesting story,
even though he's a little whinysometimes.
(14:58):
True true, pretty good character.
But yeah, honorable mentions,like you mentioned too, scorpion
and Sub-Zero too.
I like both of them especially,kind of the same thing.
Their, their story is kind offun, um, as far as interesting.
And then megaman I just Ireally liked uh, the megaman
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games and getting all thedifferent abilities and stuff
like that, well before uh, kirbyor anything like that.
So it was was just kind of funhaving those different things.
Tex LaFon (15:30):
Right right.
D Vaz (15:32):
What would you say are some of the differences or maybe
the biggest difference betweengaming back in the day and
gaming now?
Tex LaFon (15:42):
One big difference from back then and now is when
you wanted to actually playvideo games with someone else,
you would actually have to go totheir house to play, because
there was no online capabilityback then, so you actually had
to go to your friend's house toplay multiplayer games.
Now you can just turn on theinternet and play with whoever's
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playing online, and that's thebig difference.
You actually had to drive toyour friend's house and actually
, you know, hang out over thereall day just to play games,
compared to now where you canjust stay home and play all day
online.
That's the biggest difference Isee now.
Besides, you know graphicupgrades and you know stuff like
that, but I'm just that's thebiggest difference I see is like
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, back then, you know the mostyou could play at one time is
just two people.
You know you versus your friend.
Now you can play you know youversus 160 people online at one
time.
D Vaz (16:38):
So that's the biggest difference I see from from now
and then yeah, I, I do have alove-hate relationship with that
too, because, having kids andeverything, we all can play one
game at the same time.
That's pretty fun and it getscrazier.
Everybody gets loud and excitedabout the game.
(16:59):
But the other thing that's kindof weird to me now, especially
if I go play Nintendo Switchwith the kids and we play the
older games, the older gameswhere you would actually lose,
you know, I mean, or you knowyou had to, uh, start over from
the beginning because you, youran out of lives or whatever the
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case is now.
It's like you can't really failvideo games you have to.
You just keep playing and I andI get it.
But it's just kind of weirdwhen I uh noticed that and
looked at it, because I wasplaying some of the older games
and my kids would get frustratedbecause, like you know, oh you
know restarted, or I don't wantto play this because this is
like too tough or too crazy, andit's like, oh yeah, that's, it
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wasn't how it was, but you know,back then we would just spend
time to keep playing it and tryto get better at it.
Kids don't have the patiencefor that anymore.
They're just like, eh, go playanother game now.
Tex LaFon (17:54):
Yeah, they get really frustrated and then they just
want to quit If they die a lot.
Now, I mean, that's just how itis.
I agree with you.
It's like they have ultimatelives or they can save at any
point.
Back in the day you couldn'tsave.
Like you said, if you died youstarted all the way back over.
And that was very frustrating,especially when, like old school
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NES game, friday the 13th, youdied in that game.
You started all the way backover.
And then that's when youwouldn't want to play no more
because you're like I ain'tgoing to redo all this again.
D Vaz (18:27):
But then you would, because then you're looking
forward so well, that's, I wasgonna say, that's.
That's the other thing too.
I mean, now you can just jumpinto different games, especially
if you have a subscription.
You can bounce around back inthe day.
You know you either had to, youknow that's the other thing.
You bought the game.
You were stuck with that game.
You know your parents weren'tabout to hear you say oh, I
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don't want to play that.
They're like I just spent moneyon that game.
You know you wanted it, you'regonna play it.
So you had to play some, somegames you didn't really want.
Or if later on, when there wasrentals for games, the same
thing, you know you would rentone, maybe, if you're lucky, a
couple games, and if one of themwas terrible and that was it,
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you were kind of stuck with it.
You already, you already rentedit.
You couldn't just playsomething else right, right yeah
so that's another bigdifference.
They just don't know how, howgood they have it with all the
being able to jump arounddifferent games and and just you
know, being like you said, savemultiple points and and not
have to start over from thebeginning.
Tex LaFon (19:32):
Yeah, and like you said, like you know you pay for
Xbox, you know subscription andyou get all them games that you
can just play, that Causethey're all included with the
subscription.
So it's like, like you said, itain't like it was back in the
day you get one game, probablyonce every six months.
If you're lucky, you get a newgame.
It wasn't like you can just geta new game whenever it came on
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the Xbox subscription.
Boom, there you go.
D Vaz (20:01):
Yeah, that's the big difference.
Yeah, plus, you had to actuallygo to the store.
Tex LaFon (20:04):
Exactly.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
D Vaz (20:10):
Yeah, it was way different having access to games
.
So that's, yeah, where peopleare definitely lucky now just
being able to play just aboutany game you want at any time
yep um, so what?
What type of types of games doyou like?
What do you usually play?
Tex LaFon (20:25):
well, I like to play mostly like horror, suspense,
you know, like um scary gamesyeah, wait.
D Vaz (20:36):
Like horrors and suspense no, poor.
Tex LaFon (20:41):
And then like, uh, and then um, like fighting games
.
I not, I like call of duty, butmostly zombies, not multiplayer
shooting games, because, youknow, nowadays, as you get older
, your reflexes slow down andyou get destroyed, like, so
mostly I just like to play um,just shooting, like, mostly
(21:06):
fighting games.
And, um, you know, sports gamesevery now and then.
But the the problem with thegames now is like they want you
to pay for all them, uh, uh,loot boxes, which is so annoying
so, like you know.
So it's hard to even play agame now without having to pay
for all this extra stuff, justto even play the game.
(21:26):
But that's what I mostly liketo play.
What about you?
D Vaz (21:31):
yeah, I um, same types of games enjoy.
Like, I do like to play a lotof different types of games.
Sometimes I'll even play kindof puzzle games where you have
to figure out how things workand you know in, like they stick
you in a room and you have tofigure out how to get the door
unlocked.
You know, sometimes I'll dostuff like that.
But yeah, usually first personshooters, uh, sports games, um,
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adventure games, and then justyour kind of your standard again
, especially with the kids,fighting games like, uh, smash
brothers and and then that typeof stuff where you know your
character versus the other ones,um, but yeah, I I do like to
switch it up.
If there's something that'sunique I haven't seen a game
like it before I'll probably tryit out.
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There's a game that my my sonfound on on accident and he
didn't really know what it wasabout and it's definitely not
really for kids.
Uh, that I ended up playing.
It's called carry on.
It's.
It's weird because it's areally low, low bit graphic uh
game, but it's uh kind of like aum the thing in in a sense.
(22:36):
You know, you're kind of like amonster form thing that uh goes
around you can take overpeople's bodies and attack them
and stuff like that, the movie,the thing, it's kind of like
that, but the you're talkingabout the movie the thing, it's
kind of like that, but thegame's called Carry On.
It's not based on the thing.
Tex LaFon (22:53):
But when you said it's like the thing, I don't
know if everybody understandsyou're talking about the movie,
the thing.
D Vaz (22:58):
Yeah, sorry, yeah, the movie with Kurt Russell way back
in the day, the one I like.
Tex LaFon (23:04):
Yeah, same here.
D Vaz (23:07):
Yeah, the one back in like 1984 I think yeah sorry
we're old and sometimes weforget that people don't
remember.
Tex LaFon (23:11):
Yeah, some of the old stuff we were saying I was just
trying to make sure that theymight want to know what you're
talking about?
D Vaz (23:17):
no, you're definitely right.
There's sure a lot of peopleare like what?
What.
Thing yeah, exactly so, uh,yeah, it's, it was kind of like
that.
So, um, that that's, uh,another game that's a little
unique, it's a little differentfrom other stuff I played, but I
liked it nice, nice oh then I,I had the um also.
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What was the other civilization?
So I do like some of those andlike red alert, some of those
little ner, red alert, some ofthose little nerdy.
I've done my share of likediablo back in the day.
So some computer gaming, uh,not so much, just uh.
Now it's more console stuff,but yeah back in the day I did
did some computer gaming tooI've always been console, never
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computers.
Tex LaFon (24:05):
I just don't like the keyboard and mouse.
I'm not a fan of that, like Iknow.
Some people are good at that,but not me.
D Vaz (24:12):
I'm all about just console all day, every day, son
it's just hard sometimes with onthe computer side, because you
know having to do upgrades on aregular basis and all that.
So that's one of the mainreasons I stopped doing it, as
like, uh, I don't want to haveto keep upgrading my, my system
on a regular basis.
You know cause I?
I will want to play the thenewer, more graphics, intensive
(24:35):
games.
Tex LaFon (24:36):
Well, yeah, and then your laptop is, or your gaming
computer is already out of datein four months.
D Vaz (24:41):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Tex LaFon (24:49):
It's.
That's what's so funny about it.
That's why I stay with consoles.
And again I got you and I don'tlike the keyboard or mouse, son
, all right, just being honest,man, like some people, well, I'm
telling you, some people willagree, they don't.
They're either keyboard andmouse or they're, you know, just
a console.
D Vaz (25:01):
It's one or the other dude, because I'm telling you,
uh, I'm controller all day, nokeyboard and mouse yeah, no, I,
I definitely understand that I,because even um nintendo switch
having their kind of weirdcontrollers that they have, I
don't know I have a real lovehate relationship with those two
(25:23):
, especially certain games theylike try to make you use those.
Yeah, it's like I'm not reallytrying to learn how to use a
different type of controller no,I agree, I agree with you 100
all right.
So, um, what is an old schoolgame or a few old school games
that you wish would come back,you know, back in back in the
(25:45):
day that just isn't around foranymore anymore for any reason
well, first one is contra.
Tex LaFon (25:53):
I wish that game would come back and I wish uh
they would uh remake it and, um,come bring it back on to the
nintendo or the any system, tobe honest, but I know it's
mostly from nintendo from backin the day, but contra would be
dope.
I'd also like to see miketyson's punch out redone and
come back out, because that gamewas legit back in the day.
(26:16):
And then, uh, megaman.
Like they haven't made a newmegaman game in so long, it
would be dope if they uh finallymade a new megaman game yeah, I
think that would.
D Vaz (26:30):
That would be fun.
One one game, uh, that I reallyliked way back in the day and I
replayed it and it's pretty,pretty terrible.
But if they did a new versionof altered beast, you know, I
think that that could beinteresting because I thought
the story wasn't bad, it was allright and kind of the idea
behind.
You know who wouldn't want toplay as, like, a werewolf or
(26:50):
something like that?
Right, so I think the story wasall right, but yeah, it's a
pretty bad game now that I playit.
So if they did a new version Ithink that would be fun.
I definitely agree about Megaman 2.
They're due for something onthat front, but I don't know.
I sort of wish they tried a fewyears back.
(27:14):
But if they revived NBA Live anew, better version of that,
because back in the day, it waspretty fun.
Tex LaFon (27:27):
You're talking about in the 90s it was fun and then,
um, it crashed and like, once 2kcame out, uh, they couldn't
compete with 2k anymore yeah, no, 2k definitely took over, uh,
but that's the thing it's like.
D Vaz (27:43):
It's just nice to see some competition, you know.
That way you don't have to justgo with that.
It's the same thing.
On the football side of thingsSorry, american football, for
those of you not from aroundhere American football there's
Madden football games and theyhave exclusive rights at EA to
(28:04):
do those games, so they don'thave any competition.
So it's just kind of the samething every year is what it
feels like, and at least thereat least, if there was a
different company making it,you'd have an option for a
different type of game, butstill playing basketball or
football well, I mean, the onegame that I did like, that I had
(28:26):
a little bit of competitionwith it, was back in like 2003,
I think, or 2004 NFL blitz.
Tex LaFon (28:32):
That was a fun game.
I wish they would remake thator, you know like, bring that
back with the new graphics andeverything, cause it was cool.
I really did like that waybetter than Madden.
D Vaz (28:42):
Yeah, those those types of arcades are pretty, pretty
fun, because they had the NHLhits, I think.
And then, of course, nba Jam isthat type of cartoonish arcade
type of game.
Tex LaFon (28:58):
He's on fire.
D Vaz (29:01):
That's the other thing too.
You just reminded me alsobaseball games back in the day.
I mean, they're so basic backthen and they're they're way
more complex now but those,those are those used to be
pretty fun it was.
It was kind of a mixed, mixedbag because, yeah, they were
easier but at the same time Idon't know, it just seemed
(29:22):
different, because back then,hitting a home run and
everything with the cheesygraphics, you know if you play
like RBI or anything like that.
Tex LaFon (29:31):
Oh yeah, it was real cheesy back then.
D Vaz (29:34):
Yeah, yeah.
So I mean, I haven't probablytried to play a baseball game in
probably about 10 years atleast, but I just remember
trying to swing.
I was like man, there's so manymechanics now, so many options,
just to swing.
Tex LaFon (29:47):
Right.
D Vaz (29:47):
It's kind of crazy.
Tex LaFon (29:49):
Well, remember when you're trying to play a baseball
game on the Wii you had to justyeah, or if you had to try to
do boxing on the Wii.
That was funny yeah.
D Vaz (30:02):
That'll wear you out.
Tex LaFon (30:04):
True, that was fun.
D Vaz (30:08):
Yeah, so that's what I was talking about earlier.
Nintendo they're good at comingup with accessories and unique
things and all that.
It's just I don't know.
If they were a little bitbetter with their graphics and
their technology, they'd be ableto do a lot more, and I think
they would appeal to not justkids as much true, true.
(30:31):
I mean, there's definitelyadults that love Nintendo and
that's good and that's fine andlike.
Like I said, I have fun playingwith my kids on the switch, but
if you know, I only got oneconsole, which most people only
have one at a time.
Uh, I would, I wouldn't go toswitch smash brothers honestly
is the number one reason why Ibought um bought that the switch
(30:54):
, because I really like smashbrothers and I figured my kids
would and fortunately I wasright.
Tex LaFon (30:59):
But uh, yeah, it's playstation 5 all day, what's?
D Vaz (31:05):
that it's 5 all day son ps5 all day um, I'm okay with
either, but I'm okay withstaying with the Xbox for now
too.
What about newer games?
Any certain newer games you'reinto?
Tex LaFon (31:23):
Well, the last game that I just started playing was
Helldivers 2.
, and that game is pretty dopebecause we have to save all
humanity.
Okay, son, that's funny.
D Vaz (31:37):
You have a choice or no, no no, that's the that, because
it's funny.
Tex LaFon (31:40):
The intro starts off like have you ever seen any
starship troopers?
D Vaz (31:44):
it's been a while, yeah, yeah, I've seen, yeah so it's.
Tex LaFon (31:47):
It reminds me of that movie playing hell divers too,
and it was funny Cause, uh, myfriends they were, uh, uh, my
coworkers at work they're alllike we need your help to save
all humanity.
I'm like, well, obviously youdon't need my help.
That bad, I haven't played inlike two months.
D Vaz (32:05):
But it was funny though, cause they they try pitching it
to me all the time, like get outof here.
It's just funny.
I would be like how much ofhumanity is left to save now if
I haven't played in two months.
Tex LaFon (32:18):
Yeah, exactly that's why I was asking.
I was like well, has the worldbeen taken over yet?
They're like no, well then youdon't need my help, just right,
you're doing all right, exactly,I was like y'all can handle it.
It's funny, but that's thenewest game I started playing
was a hill divers 2.
D Vaz (32:31):
It's pretty fun, yeah I really I haven't really played
anything new.
I think most of my gaming nowinvolves keeping the kids
entertained.
So I mean, I'd done some of thecall of duty typical stuff over
the last few years, but Ihaven't really played any of
that.
There's don't starve togetheris another game that was kind of
(32:53):
fun.
Um, overcooked yeah, again,mostly multiplayer games for me
now, especially stuff I do withthe kids.
But, um, then smash brothers,that you know, I have to keep
going back to that becausethat's the number one game that
my kids are playing.
So I, I still have fun withthat.
I've liked that since theoriginal version.
Um, but yeah, those kind of thethe main games.
(33:18):
Other than that I I don'treally play anything that's for
me in that sense.
But uh, as long as it's amultiplayer then then I'll
probably end up playing it Imean, the last thing that I
played before the Helldiver 2,was mostly zombies.
Tex LaFon (33:34):
you know, like when me and you would play, and you
know, what got me done with Callof Duty is how you can't bring
your characters over to the newgame.
Like you spend all that moneyon characters that you buy and
then, just because they come outof the new game, you can't
bring the characters over.
D Vaz (33:51):
So I like that frustrates me, so that's why I stopped
playing call of duty yeah, andyou kind of bring up, uh,
something else, and we wementioned it earlier with, like
loot boxes, but that that isanother big change in gaming.
Back in the day, when youbought the game, you had the
game and yeah but now you knowit's.
It's great that there'sadditional content, but at the
(34:12):
same time it's like it's neverending.
And I get it from a businessperspective, but it's just I
don't know.
It feels like you're not reallygetting your full money's worth
in that sense.
Tex LaFon (34:29):
Exactly.
D Vaz (34:30):
Especially, you can't really buy just the base game
anymore and enjoy it so much.
You know they they try to makeit to where you need those
add-ons.
You know, or it's either youplay a million hours on the game
to unlock stuff and and makeyour character upgrade to where
they're decent, or, hey, spendanother 20, we'll give you this
(34:50):
stuff included.
Tex LaFon (34:55):
Yeah, which is like yeah, and that's what's so
unfair about it, because you'replaying against people that
already have spent the money andso they're already way higher
ranked than you are, and soyou're just getting demolished
when you're playing.
D Vaz (35:06):
Yeah, well, it's funny because you mentioned also about
reflexes as we go on.
I think a bigger part of it isthe fact that we don't have the
time to spend on the games, like, like the kids, so they know
all the tricks but they're justso used to playing it, you know,
for however long, you knowevery day, or whatever the case
may be.
However, however often theyplay and, yeah, we, we get to
(35:30):
play once a week, maybe for afew hours, you know, just with
the schedule and all that, it'slike oh yeah, how do I play this
again?
Oh yeah, now I remember how toplay.
I just died five times exactly,exactly, all right.
Tex LaFon (35:45):
That's why you get frustrated.
You're like I'm done with thisgame and then you just whatever,
yeah, yeah so it's.
D Vaz (35:53):
It's not as much fun when you're just trying to figure it
out, and by the time you figureit out you know you have all
those issues.
So yeah, I definitely get that.
Um, what is a, a video gamethat you wish was made into a
movie that hasn't been made intoa movie that hasn't?
Tex LaFon (36:12):
been made into a movie yet.
Well, that is a great question.
What game do I wish was madeinto a movie?
D Vaz (36:22):
I would probably have to say, oh okay, let's go with Mega
man, okay, I think that thatwould be pretty, pretty
interesting, especially,especially seeing all the
different uh abilities and allthat is that you know would you
want it live action or morecartoonish, or what?
Tex LaFon (36:44):
I would want.
Uh, basically, I would wantlike a tv series that you know,
like with it instead of like amovie.
I want a TV series with itinstead of a movie.
I think a TV series,live-action TV series would be
pretty good for it, because thenyou wouldn't have to rush the
whole development of thecharacter and everything, and
that's what I would like to see.
(37:05):
Compared to a movie you knowhow a movie they try rushing it
and you only got so much timeand then that's it.
So I think a live action tvseries would be good I.
D Vaz (37:17):
I would like to see uh link in zelda.
I think that would be prettygood like an adventure type of
thing.
Tex LaFon (37:25):
You know I agree.
D Vaz (37:27):
Yeah, because I I think there's a lot of different stuff
they can.
They can it.
Yeah, I like it.
Live action also, yeah, tv showversion would be great.
But if they did like a threetrilogy, you know, trilogy of
movie, series of it, I thinkthat would be good too.
Tex LaFon (37:46):
Sure sure.
D Vaz (37:49):
All right.
What about on the flip side ofthings?
What games do you not like toplay, or what are games that you
really didn't like when youplayed them?
Tex LaFon (38:02):
well, uh, most of the games that I don't like to play
is like uh, diablo, don't likethat game.
Diablo, don't like that game,don't like Wizardry type games
or anything like that.
I just mostly like just, yeah,that's the games I really don't
(38:23):
like to play.
More like strategy games Don'tlike them.
Yeah, I just don't like them.
Aliens Fireteam Didn't like it.
Yeah, I just don't like likealiens fire team didn't like it
because more strategy like I,just more, just um, I just don't
like strategy games, just beinghonest yeah, for for me, uh,
(38:49):
yeah, back back in the day Iused to like racing games and
things like that.
D Vaz (38:54):
I don't know.
Now I don't really like them somuch.
Mario Kart and things like thatare fine because it's kind of
cartoony.
I like the type where you cankind of go off wherever and
drive.
That's all right with me.
It's kind of go off whereverand drive, you know that.
That that's all right with me.
It's kind of fun.
Like there's a like the legoones and stuff like that you can
(39:16):
kind of again still kind ofcartoony, but the ones that are
supposed to be simulation, morerealistic, I don't know, I just
they're not as fun to me anymore.
Probably the other thing toolack of a steering wheel right,
I can agree with that yeah, likeback in the day my dad had the
the full steering wheel setup,uh, for the dreamcast and that
(39:39):
was actually pretty fun too.
But yeah, um, yeah, I, I don'tknow, that's probably about the
only I don't know.
Of course I wouldn't like somesports games like golf.
That would be just boring to me.
I remember trying to play itback in the day.
It's like I don't even likewatching golf myself just
(40:00):
because growing up mygrandmother and my aunt would
watch it and I would be forcedto watch it back then, because
that's another thing that'sreally changed is know, you
usually had one tv, maybe twotvs, in the house back in the
day true now you get one inevery room yeah, especially if
you're at like a grandparent'shouse, though, then oh yeah yeah
(40:22):
, they probably only have one tv.
Oh, yeah but yeah, so you had towatch whatever they wanted to
watch.
That's just how it was backthen and is either that or be
bored, or go play outside orplay in the other room.
So golf is just something I'dnever really took to, and
especially trying to play golfgames.
Tex LaFon (40:39):
I've tried a few times over the years and, yeah,
no thanks yeah, I, like you said, I'm not big in the golf games
either.
But yeah, mostly I don't likestrategy games.
And you made a good point aboutthe car games.
Like they're not fun eitheranymore either.
I agree with you on that too.
They're not.
They're not like they used tobe.
D Vaz (40:58):
The last fun car game that I played was knee for speed
pursuit and that was it yeahthat was actually fun, but other
than that, no yeah, and it'sfunny too, because you can um,
customize stuff more than everand all that, but again, like
you said, it goes back to thepain.
Yeah, you, you can customize it, but that's just so you can.
(41:21):
You can pay for it.
Oh, and I have to give anhonorable mention too.
I can't believe this gamedidn't come up but the, the gta
series grand theft auto grandtheft auto.
Yeah, so yeah, yeah, back inGTA series.
Grand Theft, auto Grand Theft.
Auto, yeah, so yeah, Back in theday I used to play those.
I haven't really played in along time.
Tex LaFon (41:38):
Well, they're probably coming out with that
new one next year or 2025, Ithink.
D Vaz (41:43):
That's the next year yeah , it's always next year for
Grand Theft Auto 6.
Tex LaFon (41:48):
Well, at least you finally got a trailer for it.
D Vaz (41:51):
Right.
Yeah, so yeah, that's thatmeans they actually are working
on it, that's one of those gameswhere you just goof around with
it.
You know you're not I mean thestory mode and the old ones.
I don't.
I haven't really played.
I haven't played gta5 in areally long time.
I have it, I got it, you know,around the time it came out, you
know, which is a really longtime ago now, and I, I think I
(42:15):
maybe played halfway through thestory mode.
Uh, I didn't finish it.
It wasn't bad, it's just, Idon't know, wasn't too
interested anymore so it's fun,one of those fun games where you
can just mess around with it.
But if I jumped in there nowfrom the videos I've seen it I
would have no idea what's goingon it's like a cartoon now, true
(42:38):
, but uh, are there any othergames that we haven't mentioned
that you like?
Or because I'm surprised gtadidn't come up?
But yeah, grand, grand.
I remember playing the originalgrand theft auto back in the
day too well I never played.
Tex LaFon (42:55):
I didn't play gta very much, to be honest, so
that's why, yeah, I'm not sayingthat I wouldn't play.
I just never have played itthat much.
So I I know a lot of people sayfive is really good, I just
never played it.
So because, just like you said,I hardly have any time to play
any games right.
D Vaz (43:19):
Um, yeah, there's another game, gigabash.
I play on the switch.
It's pretty fun, it's on, uh,multiple consoles too.
But, uh, the thing I like aboutI don't know if you're familiar
with it at all, but what it isit's basically a monster
fighting game and it hasgodzilla in it godzilla is my
favorite monster character ofall time.
(43:40):
So, uh, since it has that inthere, I usually get godzilla or
the mecha robot godzilla, andthen, you know, terrorize my
kids with that.
So that's pretty fun yeah, Ithink that's.
(44:00):
I'm sure afterwards I'm gonna belike oh yeah, there's another
game that I used to play a lot.
But I mean, I used to play,like I said, the live series a
lot, the Madden series back inthe day Street Fighter.
I used to play, like I said,the live series a lot, the
Madden series back in the day,street Fighter of course, and
Mortal Kombat.
Tex LaFon (44:18):
Another game that's really good is Devil May Cry.
D Vaz (44:22):
Yeah, I remember playing the original one.
Tex LaFon (44:24):
I played the first two.
D Vaz (44:25):
I think I played the first two.
I don't think I played afterthat.
Yeah, that was good.
Oh, Resident Evil was prettygood too.
Tex LaFon (44:32):
Yeah, you can't leave out Resident Evil.
That's always been a goodseries.
D Vaz (44:36):
That was the first kind of creepy game.
I can remember when the firstone came out, because I remember
a friend of mine told methey're like yeah, because of
course back then the graphicswere like wow.
Tex LaFon (44:49):
Yeah, on the original PlayStation, but my friend's
like man.
D Vaz (44:51):
What's that?
On the original playstationyeah, yeah, because my friend
was like man, I can't play thisgame in the dark.
And I was like what?
And then I, you know, he showedme.
I was like, oh yeah, it'spretty, pretty creepy for back
then sure, that's, that's theother thing.
I mean, you have to remember howmuch graphics and everything
(45:12):
technology has changed over theyears.
So the way that uh games are,you know, we react to the games
now and what we expect it's it'sway different from when we had
a lot of the stuff we've seenfor the first time, because I
remember mortal combat.
Tex LaFon (45:26):
The fact that it had blood was a huge deal oh yeah,
you know, and um and then youcan do the fire.
D Vaz (45:33):
You remember that before that even.
Tex LaFon (45:35):
I'm just saying like, especially when you could do
them finishing moves and no onehad ever seen that.
When you're ripping outpeople's spines, you know, back
in like early nineties, you'relike, whoa, this is crazy, or
you know you rip the mask offand you burn them and they go to
bones, yeah, like so.
D Vaz (45:55):
Yeah, yeah, that was, that was new and different, for
sure.
And then I I remember evenbefore that some people were
kind of weird about, uh, archrivals basketball.
I don't know if you rememberthat, but it's a basketball game
you can like punch each otheryeah yeah, that was actually, uh
, something that was availableon nintendo switch, so I, I, I
pull, I pulled it up just out ofcuriosity.
I tried to play it and my kidsweren't having it.
(46:16):
They're like what is this?
So they're all about Kirby.
If they had a favorite videogame character right now, I'd
Pac-Man and Kirby.
Those are probably the two thatthey would go with, which is
funny, because I definitelyremember playing Pac-Man back in
the day my son.
(46:38):
He actually got into Pac-Manbecause of YouTube videos that
he saw, though Before he evenplayed the game he saw Pac-Man
on YouTube.
Tex LaFon (46:50):
Yeah, and that's what .
That's the way a lot of peoplenow see games before they play
them from the YouTube.
D Vaz (46:58):
Yeah, that's how he found out about Mario and Sonic and
all that well before he playedany of the games.
Tex LaFon (47:04):
Right, right you know .
D Vaz (47:05):
So that's another thing too.
When I have my Genesis havingSonic, that was the first game
that I had on that.
Tex LaFon (47:12):
Yeah, you got to get the rings.
D Vaz (47:13):
Right, Talk about the rings.
So yeah, it's been a lot ofchanges, good and bad, but I
don't know.
I'm curious about the nextgeneration consoles, what's
going to come out?
And I haven't even looked at VRstuff yet, you know, virtual
(47:36):
reality.
Tex LaFon (47:38):
I mean, I have an Arculus Rift like got it for my
son and it's pretty trippybecause I played Resident Evil
on it and it scared the hell outof me.
Man, I'm just being honest,like it was, it was intense,
(48:00):
like I was impressed with likehow intense it was, it was crazy
, it was.
D Vaz (48:04):
Yeah, it was intense so yeah, I, um, I don't know I my
biggest concern because Ihaven't really tried out
anything like that too much.
I have motion sickness.
Tex LaFon (48:16):
Oh yeah.
D Vaz (48:18):
So yeah, with the motion sickness, I don't know if I'd be
able to play.
Or if I do play, it would belike 10 minutes or what.
Right, right, yeah, I thinkthat pretty much, at least for
now, covers kind of some of thethe gaming, what, what we do and
what we've seen and all thatstuff over the years.
Anything else, uh, you want toadd to that?
Tex LaFon (48:40):
yeah, I just want to say I'm all about playstation 5,
thank you I think we I thinkwe've taken that away from this
conversation uh, one thing isdefinitive there yes, yeah, no,
xbox for me, okay.
Playstation, thank you.
And no, I'm not sponsored byplaystation okay right, that was
(49:03):
, that was the next question.
But yeah, so is that.
It is that a wrap, son?
And, as always, go Cowboys suckit, cowboys, alright that's all
for now.
If you want some more, you gottabuy yourself a ticket.
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