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Ever wonder how a simple song could ignite a cultural revolution? Join Tex Lafon and D-Voss as they walk us through the musical landscape of the 90s, starting with Nirvana's explosive "Smells Like Teen Spirit" and its ripple effects on the grunge movement. Tex shares laugh-out-loud personal anecdotes involving Pearl Jam and Soundgarden, while D-Voss dives into his deep love for Tony! Toni! Toné! and their game-changing R&B hits. Together, they reminisce about the distinct quirks of The Box video channel and its unique impact on music video culture.

But it's not just about grunge and R&B—prepare for a nostalgic rollercoaster as our conversation shifts to the raw energy of Megadeth's "Sweating Bullets" and the profound influence of Tupac Shakur on the rap scene. With stories that make the 90s feel more alive than ever, we reflect on Tupac's early work and unforgettable tracks like "Dear Mama." The tales don’t stop there; Tex and D-Voss take us through the musical evolution into the modern era, spotlighting iconic artists like Bruno Mars, Eminem, and Childish Gambino, dissecting what makes each one a standout in today's music industry.

And who could forget the 2000s? From Outkast's funky beats to Usher's unforgettable hit "Yeah!," this episode is a treasure trove of musical memories. We even touch on the soulful magic of Maxwell's MTV Unplugged performance and the carefree vibes of Florida Georgia Line’s "Cruise." Wrapping up with a humorous discussion on "mama jokes" and a playful jab at Tex's mama, this episode promises an entertaining blend of nostalgia, humor, and deep musical insights. Tune in, laugh, and relive the magic of the music that shaped generations!

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Rob O'Dic - AI Assistant (00:00):
Well, here we are again for episode 5,
part 2.
Tex Lafon and D-Voss continuetheir music discussion going
into the 90s and beyond.
You've already suffered enoughwith part 1.
, so let's get on with it androll along with part 2.
From hoods to backwoods podcast.

D Vaz (00:33):
Welcome to the show yeah, I'll start out with 90s.
So, uh, first band that I likeda lot in the 90s and it was
funny because the music videowas crazy it's, you know, being
played in a high school wasNirvana.
Teen smells like teen spiritand I said it's a great song.

(00:58):
I said again, it's not superheavy metal but it's like heavy
enough where you might considerit heavy metal if you want to.
But again, I just like the band, I like the song, a lot of
great music.
It was something you haven'theard or I had never heard, so I
thought it was really good.

Tex LaFon (01:18):
Um, that was my first band in the 90s nirvana yeah,
that definitely kicked off thewhole grunge thing in a big way.
In alternative music beingmainstream, I guess you could
say um right, everybody tryingto wear flannel oh yeah so, yeah

(01:40):
, that's another thing you wouldsee all over m is Nirvana, and
then Pearl Jam and Soundgardenand all those things.
For me, shout out toSoundgarden.
Black Hole Sun is one of myfavorite songs of all time.

D Vaz (01:54):
Yeah.

Tex LaFon (01:54):
I think, that's the only good song.

D Vaz (01:58):
I think that's the only song I like about them too, to
be honest.

Tex LaFon (02:02):
I gotcha.
No, I definitely like some oftheir other stuff, but that that
music video is one of myfavorite music videos of all
time too did you start dressinguh gothic after you watched that
?
Video.
No, but I did show that to my,uh, my son, my oldest son.
I showed him that video.
I can't remember, oh I know whybecause he went through a phase

(02:24):
where he was really intotornadoes and stuff like that.

Rob O'Dic - AI Assistant (02:27):
So I was like oh you want to see a
storm I'll show you one it wasjust funny seeing his reaction
to that.

Tex LaFon (02:35):
So, um, he was okay, though he doesn't get scared
easily, so I knew he couldhandle it, so he was all right
right right but um what's your,uh, what's your first one in the
90s?
I guess I'll kick it off withtony tony tone.
Um, they were one of myfavorite.

(02:57):
Later r&b groups, which is tome is really kind of sad and
lame in a way.
There aren't really any R&B,notable R&B groups coming out,
now newer ones, so it was niceseeing actual musicians doing
R&B, not just doing a hip-hopbeat and doing some R&B stuff

(03:23):
over it.
So, yeah, they had some greatsongs.
If I had no Loot is about myfavorite song of theirs.
They also worked with one of myfavorite rappers, dj Quick and
did a song with him let's GetDown.
And yeah, they just had somegreat music.

(03:45):
I another one of my favoritesongs of theirs was actually
from the 80s, which was theirfirst hit.
Uh, it feels good.
They played that on the mt, onmtv a good amount too.
So um yeah, raf rafael sadiq.
He's one of my favoriteproducers.
Uh, he's he's kind of theirlead songwriter.
He's come out with a goodamount of solo stuff.

(04:06):
I've always liked his hissinging style and, uh, yeah,
just just the way he's writtenmusic.
He went to a pretty heavy 60s,70s style uh stuff in like the
late 2010s and that was kind ofinteresting too, hearing kind of
a throwback style that he wasdoing.

(04:27):
But he's always kind of hadthat soul, 60s, 70s feel in his
music.

D Vaz (04:35):
But, yeah, one of my favorites for sure alright,
alright, my next one that I wantto go with.
It was funny that you justmentioned it earlier when you
mentioned some of the otherbands.
My next one that I want to gowith it was funny that you just
mentioned it earlier, you know,when you mentioned some of the
other bands in the 90s Pearl Jam, I like that song Black that

(04:57):
they sing.
Then also they sing, I'm prettysure, that song Jeremy Whitney.
But, like I said again, that'swhen I started getting into more
alternative music as a band.
That I thought sounded reallygood.

Tex LaFon (05:14):
And I like both of them songs a lot from them in
the 90s.
Does Jeremy remind?

D Vaz (05:17):
you of anybody in your family?
Yeah, my twin brother, but Ijust like the song overall,
though, okay just curious,alright.

Tex LaFon (05:31):
Yeah, no, they really talented band.
A lot of people that aremusicians or anything like that
that see them live, like whenthey kind of jam on their songs.
I'll have a really quick uh,pro jam story too.
I was performing live and, uh,it was an outdoor gig and and

(05:56):
two of my friends walked up andthey were out in the the crowd
and they started this started anongoing joke between the two of
us.
So when I was up thereperforming on stage and I was
just kind of doing what Inormally do.
I normally talk to the crowdand make jokes and stuff like
that and one of them startedyelling out of nowhere play

(06:19):
pearl jam.
And he just kept doing itthroughout the time I was
playing on stage.
So he happened to be a DJ.
So whenever I would see himDJing I would either yell that
when I was out in the crowd orwhen I would walk up to him to
say hi to him.
I'd be like hey, can you playsome Pearl Jam?
So just kind of like an ongoingjoke that we had back and forth

(06:40):
with each other over the years.
We still even do it on, youknow, on social media.
We'll we'll say play pearl jam.
We know what we're talkingabout when we say that that's
funny, yeah so yeah, it's like a15 year old joke now still

(07:02):
going strong.

Rob O'Dic - AI Assistant (07:04):
Right.

Tex LaFon (07:06):
Yeah, so they have some good songs.
For me, switching it up togoing to some metal, megadeth
definitely is one of my favoritebands of all time, definitely
my favorite metal band.
They, I don't know.

(07:27):
I just like um the fact thatthey were a little more complex,
not just straight ahead metal,and also they didn't just play
like the slow heavy metal thatsome bands do.
They would switch up and theyhad some really really fast
songs too.
Uh, more of the what they callthrash metal style um but marty

(07:49):
freeman, great guitar player,really creative he.
He wasn't, not your typicalmetal guitars.

Rob O'Dic - AI Assistant (07:58):
No, not marty, you didn't do any
time travel and he wasn'tplaying johnny be Goode, that's
a good song Okay.

Tex LaFon (08:05):
Oh it is.
It's just he wasn't playing it,I know.
So, yeah, he just would dodifferent things that you
wouldn't typically hear.
Like he had like an acousticguitar solo over a metal song
that like had this quiet part.
I mean you don't really hearthat, right Right.

(08:28):
So, um, yeah, they, they justgreat songs.
Uh, remember the first thingthat they got my attention was
their music video for sweatingbullets.
It used to, uh I mean it wouldplay on MTV but also used to
play a lot on this video channelcalled the box.
I don't know if you had that orif you remember that no, I

(08:51):
thought you're gonna say vh1 no,no, uh, no, they definitely
would have been played on vh1back then.
But yeah, it was a.
It was, the box was short forjukebox, so it was a service
where you would call in and youwould type in the number of the

(09:13):
music video you wanted to seeand then they would charge your
phone back in the old days yeah,this was back in the 90s and
yeah, so it would.
The thing was too, you couldorder the video over and over
again.
So sometimes people would playthe same video four or five
times in a row and, of course,I'm sure, with my cousin

(09:38):
explaining, trying to explain tomy grandmother what happened to
her phone bill a few times youknow we had some videos that
went on there that's too funnybecause we yeah, usually my
cousin and I would be hangingout my grandmother's house and
he'd be like I'm gonna call, hewas older.
My cousin was like four yearsolder me and he's like I'm gonna
call.
I'm like go ahead, I'm notgonna, I'm not gonna have

(10:00):
anything to do with this.
Right.

D Vaz (10:03):
That's funny.

Tex LaFon (10:07):
That's how it was back then.
So yeah, megadeth, one of myfavorites, nick Menza, great
drummer, dave Mustaine honestly,I had to get used to his vocals
.
Didn't really like his voice atall when I first heard him, but
I just got used to it over theyears.
Um, the songs had some meaningand it wasn't your typical stuff

(10:28):
either, because it was againstcorporate greed or he was
singing about aliens andexperiments, you know, against
government and stuff.
You know things like that.
Just some some prettyinteresting topics that again
weren't't, weren't typical Againand also not really typical for

(10:50):
metal in a way too.
So, um, yeah, just uh, I hadhad their live DVD.
In fact, in the day that I got,uh, probably wore that thing
out.
I watched that a lot.
It was a great concert.
So yeah, it's, it was a greatconcert.
So yeah it's.

D Vaz (11:04):
uh, they, they maybe want to play guitar really loud and
fast too.
Well, that's good.
Changing it up, son, changingit up.
Uh.
So next one for me in thenineties, um, my favorite rapper
of all time will be Tupac and,uh, like I said, he had a lot of

(11:28):
great songs and two of myfavorite songs by him.
First one is Dear Mama, which Ialways play when your mom comes
over.
Second one is Dear Yo Mama.
Yeah, hail Mary.
And, like I said, just greatsong, song, great beat to it

(11:48):
that I like a lot.
I mean, obviously there's otherones that you're talking about,
like uh, california love, but,um, they were my two favorite
though uh dear mama and hellmary.
And I said my favorite uhrapper of all time would be uh
tupac, and that's when I startedlistening to a lot of rap music
in the 90s is when I heardTupac.

Tex LaFon (12:11):
Do you remember his first hit song, nope, way back
um?
The first time I rememberhearing tupac was I get around.
I don't know if you rememberthat song at all.

D Vaz (12:25):
It was like way back in my being that yeah, it was
probably I don't know when thatsong came out 91 maybe 92.

Tex LaFon (12:37):
Yeah, it's called I Get Around.
That was kind of his and it wasa different style for sure than
his stuff that came later.
It was just kind of a goofysong and he was rapping about
trying to get with women andstuff like that.
So that's the first time Iremember seeing him or hearing
him.
I kind of knew of him in a waytoo, because he started off with

(12:58):
the group Digital Underground.
I don't know if you're familiar.

D Vaz (13:00):
You remember them, the humpty dance, I remember, yeah,
well, yeah that that they cameout in the 80s, right, yeah that
was like 89, I'm pretty sure,late 80s, around 89, 90
somewhere around there butthat's where he kind of got his
start um Um.
Oh, okay.
As far as being known, I didn'tknow he was even with that band

(13:23):
.

Tex LaFon (13:25):
Yeah, um, fair amount of people you know, especially
at that time, didn't didn'treally know or don't remember.
But yeah, he started off aslike a dancer and then, uh, they
kind of like, yeah, we'll,we'll have you be a part of the
group.
So he has some verses and stufflike that on some of their
albums around that time period.

(13:46):
The album that came out thathad the Humpty Dance and I
remember it was kind of a funnything, it was a big deal.
The name of the album was SexPackets.
And it was basically talkingabout condoms and um the record
stores would freak out and the Iremember they were like try to

(14:06):
cover up the name of the albumand all this other stuff or put
something over the front of it.
But uh, yeah, it was cause backthen, especially in the late
eighties, early nineties, umtrying to promote safe sex with
condoms because of hiv aids.

D Vaz (14:26):
you know it was kind of it was a big deal, you know, and
uh yeah, it was just kind offunny yeah, yeah, right, yeah,
yeah.

Tex LaFon (14:37):
So that's that's my first remember hearing about
Tupac and that's definitely thefirst song I remember was uh, I
Get Around yeah, and that's whatI'm saying, that's what got me
into rap music was uh Tupac, andthat's why he's my favorite rap
artist of all time.

D Vaz (14:52):
Because when the album I don't remember what the album
was called that I'm talkingabout with them two songs that
came out on it.
It might be All Eyes On Me.
I think that's what it albumwas called that I'm talking
about with them two songs thatcame out on it.
It might be All Eyes on Me.
I think that's what it is.
But when he changed up the wayhe rapped, he did it a lot
slower and that's when I likedit, a lot better than trying to
go fast like he did in some ofhis other songs.

Tex LaFon (15:15):
Yeah, he was definitely one of my favorites.
Yeah, he was definitely one ofmy favorites, yeah, and he was
different in his style and hisway, especially at that time,
and kind of going back to thewhole safe sex during that time
period, especially in hip hopand R&B and stuff like that TLC

(15:40):
is my next one on my list.
I know that's when this uh,yeah, that's great to say.
Actually, I'll let you kick itoff and then I'll get into mine
yeah, uh, I agree with you,that's my honorable mention was
tlc.

D Vaz (15:53):
Um, that waterfall song.
It talks about everything youwere just talking about, like,
uh, you know you go chasing, gochasing waterfalls and you might
regret going to chase itinstead of just playing it safe
and keep going.
The same routine that you knowyou normally go in life.
But they try to, you know, tellyou if you take chances you
might end up regretting it.

(16:13):
In that song and just also withthe music video also definitely
would you know advise you don'tgo chasing waterfalls.

Tex LaFon (16:25):
Right.
Please stick to the rivers andlakes that you're used to.

D Vaz (16:28):
Exactly.
But yeah, like I said, I likethat band a lot.
I thought it was good, like Isaid, very talented group and
their voices all sounded great.
So, like I said, it was a bighit back in the 90s yeah, yeah,
they're, they're the.

Tex LaFon (16:50):
The last um on my actual list before I get my
honorable mention was tlc, sothat's why I had to bring them
up.
They my favorite female groupof all time, but just in general
as artists they were unique inthe sense that they really had a

(17:14):
great combination of R&B andhip hop between Left Eye and her
rapping and then T-Boz andChili doing their singing.
It just really worked, you know.
Oh yeah, and when they came outwith that crazy, sexy, cool
album and especially that Creepvideo, that one is one I had to

(17:35):
keep watching on MTV.
Oh yeah, watch on an MTV, ohyeah.
But they also did somethingthat I usually don't like and it
was fine.
They did a cover of a Princesong if I was your girlfriend by

(17:55):
Prince, and I actually likedtheir their version.
So came to find out later ontoo that they were huge Prince
fans.
So it all made sense that itworked and everything.
But yeah, they they were, Idon't know just just had a great

(18:15):
combination of different thingsgoing on um, both musically but
just with with the way theywere too.
When you see them in interviewsyou're like they look like they
just be kind of fun to hang outwith too in general.
You know cause?

D Vaz (18:28):
they were just kind of funny.
They were here playing um.
Not, they were here playingthat not that long ago over at
um the wild horse casino yeah,probably two months ago yeah, I
wanted to catch them live.

Tex LaFon (18:47):
I just it's it's never really worked out with my
schedule or various reasons, butyeah, there's somebody I
absolutely like to see live.
And uh, yeah, I watched theirdocumentary that came out not
too long ago so it was prettyinteresting, just kind of
learning more about the behindthe scenes part of their story.

(19:08):
And they're kind of famous inthe music industry on that side
of it because they were sellingmillions and millions of albums
but had no money.
They ended up broke by the time.
They paid back all the stuffthey had to and then they they
explained uh, they explained howfinances work in the music

(19:29):
industry and it was eye openingfor a lot of people, you know
you know, being one of the topjust groups in general in the
world at the time and having somuch money taken and not really
much financially to show for alltheir hard work, yeah, that was
pretty crazy.

(19:49):
all right, so for my uhhonorable mention in the 90s
it's uh, dwight yocum.
I had to get a little littlecountry in there because I like
to listen to a lot of differentstuff.
Yes, get that yeehaw, but he'snot really known as a songwriter
, but that's absolutely what he,I'm sure, would like to be

(20:13):
known for.
I used to listen to hissatellite radio channel that he
had, so I would hear him talkabout that type of stuff and uh,
okay yeah, I think he he had agood mix of kind of rockabilly,
rock and roll, country stuffgoing on, you know had some of
that rock influence, uh, even alittle bit of punk influence in

(20:36):
his music, and uh worked withsome great musicians, great
guitar players.
Um, I've always just liked hisvoice too, the way he sings.
But uh, he, he's another one.
I wanted to see him live and hewas here not too long ago, but
uh, ticket prices have gonereally crazy and just I haven't
had the time.

(20:56):
So, um, yeah, yeah, if he comesback.

D Vaz (21:01):
We should go.
I'll be down.

Tex LaFon (21:04):
Yeah, if he comes back through town, I definitely
would like to see him.
Or you know, who knows, maybeif he goes to Vegas, like a lot
of artists do, might have to doa road trip.

D Vaz (21:14):
Yeah, that sounds good to me.
That'd be cool.
I'll be down.

Tex LaFon (21:16):
Yeah, he'd be worth the drive.
It's only about four and a halfhours from here in the Phoenix
area, so that wouldn't be bad.
But yeah, he's.
And I do have to mention toohis acting.
I think he's pretty good insome of the movies he's been in.

D Vaz (21:37):
Oh yeah.

Tex LaFon (21:38):
He kind of can play the creepy or angry type, which
is kind of surprising.
True Great songwriter, reallygood actor.
Honestly, I wish he would havedone more movies, you know.
But all right, that's it forwrapping up the 90s.

(22:03):
Um, now I do have to explainthis a little bit, being that
we're older in terms of themusic that we listen to and
things like that.
Um, we kind of did 2000, 2000sand beyond.
We didn't do 2000s and 2010s.
The other thing too is thisactually is happening.

(22:28):
We had kind of figured it wouldhappen.
This episode is running longwith all the music and stuff
like that.
We're doing 2000s and beyond.
For the next part of this, Iguess I'll kick this one off
real quick and I'll start offwith Bruno Mars, I think, out of

(22:48):
newer artists.
I kind of like him in terms ofbeing a bit of a throwback Live
instruments playing music.
He, I'll say, borrows from alot of the older songs.
You know, for some people itmight be a little bit too much
he borrows, but it's good.

(23:11):
He definitely can do his ownthing too when he wants to, you
know, and do more of his styleand more original sounding stuff
when he wants to, but if hewants to pay tribute to somebody
, he can pretty much nail thattoo.
So great great singer.
I mean, his vocal range isreally crazy.
I know a lot of people thathave tried to cover his songs

(23:33):
and when it gets to the way hesings and the vocal range, they
don't give it a shot.
They switch up the song or dowhatever they have to do to sing
it lower.

D Vaz (23:47):
With Bruno Mars.
It's funny.
When I first heard him I didn'tlike him at all.
That Grenade song was just notfor me, dude.
But then later on some of hisother music, I really started
liking him a lot, like theUptown Funk and some other songs

(24:09):
that he or was it 24 Karat Gold?
I can't remember what the othersong was.
But once he started, when Iheard them songs, I liked him a
lot better.
But that Grenade song the veryfirst time I heard from him with
that Grenade I was like, no,not for me.
But then after that his othersongs I liked a lot better.

Tex LaFon (24:31):
Yeah, yeah, he had grown me a little bit also at
first because I wasn't too sure.
Yeah, I didn't know too muchabout him as far as um,
musicianship or or writing musicor anything like that.
You know, I just kind of Ithought maybe he's just another
pop pop kind of guy.
But yeah, after a while andgetting to hear some more of his

(24:54):
stuff and see him perform moreand things like that, then then
that's when I I understood itand uh, was more of a fan.
I guess you could say yeah,same here.

D Vaz (25:04):
I agree, like I said, he grew on me but at first I was
like, uh, no, what is this?
And then, no, it got better.
The first one I'll go with on,uh, my 2000 and beyond would be
uh, eminem.
When he came out, um, I said Ihad never heard that kind of rap

(25:27):
music before, um, until he cameout and I said, uh, lose
yourself was a great song, um,but also like, will the real
slim shady please stand up,another great song, you know.
And I said, uh, and I like, um,he, he, uh, I like the way when
, um, he sings the songs and themeanings he has behind them,

(25:49):
because, uh, when he writes hissongs, he, uh, he definitely
writes it with a lot of passion.
You can tell when he sings itand, um, you know where they
come from and stuff like that.
And, like I say, just a greatartist.
I don't even know.
He definitely changed the game,you know, when he came out in
the 2000s.

Tex LaFon (26:08):
Yeah, I remember it was around the time that I moved
to California that the SlimShady, that whole thing came out
, and you could not escapehearing it on the radio.
It seemed like but yeah, Iliked it.
I thought it was kind of fun,it was a little different and I
knew that Dr Dre was involvedwith it, so that again I was

(26:30):
like, okay, I'll check it out.
So that's the first time Iremember hearing Eminem.

D Vaz (26:36):
I agree with you.
I like how him and Dr Dreworked together.

Tex LaFon (26:39):
It was a good duo yeah, yeah, that that whole
first album uh, a lot, a lot ofgood stuff is, and it was just
he was way different back thenbecause he was kind of doing his
goofy funny stuff and peopledidn't really take, take him
seriously as a rapper because ofit at first, and then later on,
of course, um, the whole eightmile thing and and all that.

(27:03):
Then people started taking himseriously Zero.
This is all.
I'll jump ahead a little bit interms of time.
Uh, childish Gambino is, um,somebody I really uh ended up
liking kind of kind of againover time.
I I knew of him as an actorfirst and then it's kind of one

(27:28):
of those things.
It's hard when you see somebodyas an actor first and then they
try to do music.
You're like, are you reallyinto music or are you just kind
of doing this because you wantmore money or you're bored or
you know whatever?
But uh, you want more money oryou're bored or you know
whatever.
But yeah, I listened to it moreand more and I had some friends
that got into it and introducedme to some of his other stuff,

(27:48):
and then I finally came aroundand no, he's pretty much the
real deal as far as beinginvolved in music and actually
being able to hold his own, notjust an actor who hampers to do
music.

D Vaz (28:06):
So what's his famous role as an actor?

Tex LaFon (28:09):
Well, there's community.
He played Lando in Solo.
Yeah, if you're talking aboutmovies, but also for TV.
He was in the show Community Iwas're talking about.
Yeah, if you're talking aboutmovies, but also for tv he was
in the show community and uhyeah, yeah, he was also on 30
rock, so, um, and then the showatlanta.

(28:31):
I do watch that every once in awhile.
It's kind of kind of a crazyshow.
I don't know if you everchecked that out I've never seen
that show.

D Vaz (28:40):
I just remember him from Solo.
He played Lando in Solo.
That's what I remember him in.
And then it's funny that youbring him up as a singer,
because I totally forgot that hewas a singer and so you know,
you just mentioned him.
I just remember him from movies.

Tex LaFon (28:59):
Yeah, and that's the thing too, because some people
just think he raps.
But yeah, he also does sing onhis album, so it has the R&B
side of it but also has thehip-hop side.
I'm kind of curious about howhe's going to keep going forward

(29:21):
with his music and stuff likethat, Because, you know, he's at
kind of that part where he hadhis big hit and his big album a
few years back and he's comingout with new stuff still.
So, yeah, it's alwaysinteresting to see how artists
if they kind of stay the courseand stick with kind of what made

(29:42):
them popular, or if they take adifferent direction and try to
do something else right, right,staying with the theme, uh, my
next one's gonna be outcasts and, like I said, uh, I think they
definitely have some great songs.

D Vaz (29:57):
Uh, one of my favorite songs by them is miss jackson,
but you probably hear it assorry, miss jackson, you know,
like every time your mom comesover I'm like sorry but I said,
uh, you know, I said one of myfavorite songs by them and uh, I

(30:17):
said just a good group overalland I said it's just a, you know
that they have a really goodbeat and I like, I like them
yeah, they, they uh almost mademy list too for for this time
period, um, even though I canmake myself sound old in them, I

(30:38):
remember hearing them in highschool that's the first time.

Tex LaFon (30:44):
yeah, that's the first time I remember, because
some friends of mine are likeyou have to check this out.
So, uh, yeah, I heard them forthe first time in high school
and it was, you know, anotheranother, another group that
evolved and changed over time,uh, in a good way, for sure.

(31:04):
I'd like to see them do areunion thing when they they
definitely could have been on mylist, um, but yeah, you can
have that one.

D Vaz (31:15):
Yeah, like you said, uh, now um, now most time um, you
know they're doing acting now,so I haven't seen him make an
album in forever, so it would becool if they ever did um go
back to the scene, I'd be downwell, andre 3000 not too long
ago did do his solo flute album,so you can catch that if you

(31:36):
missed it.
I was talking about Outkasttogether, not solo act son.

Tex LaFon (31:44):
I know how much you love flute albums.
That's why.

D Vaz (31:46):
I figured I'd tell you about it.
That's funny.
What's your next one, son?

Tex LaFon (31:53):
next one, son.
Next one Uh, this one couldhave been in the nineties but
stuck with with 2000 justbecause the nineties were a
little bit packed too.
Um, but he had some great musicin nineties, which is Maxwell
Um, I think, uh, a lot of peoplearen't as familiar with my as I
feel should be.
A great R&B singer.

(32:16):
Um has some some good funkstuff, really soulful.
Uh, his lyrics, again, moreinsightful than a lot of stuff
you hear, I feel, nowadays.
Right, right, um, but just hisvoice is is great, great.
It's funny because with him Iwas actually listening to his

(32:38):
music earlier today because Iwas just thinking about this.
You know what I wanted to sayand then talk about.
And one of the things thatreminded me of and I noticed is
he's one of those artists whereyou can kind of hear his
influences in his singing and inhis music, but it doesn't sound
like he's mimicking somebodyelse or stealing from them or

(33:00):
anything like that.
He still sounds like himself andstill does his own thing, but
it comes across in a good wayLike I can hear a little bit of
this in his voice or I can heara little bit of this in his
voice, or I can hear a littlebit of this in this song, um,
but, like I said, he definitelymakes it his own though and
you're not talking about maxwell, the coffee brand, either.

(33:22):
Right that's a maxwell house.
No, and I'm not talking aboutthe beatles song, maxwell silver
hammer.
I'm not talking about vernonVernon Maxwell, who played for
the rockets.

D Vaz (33:35):
Yeah, well, we definitely know you're not talking about
him, but no, I'll just clarifythat, cause I had never heard of
Maxwell.
That's why I just want to makesure we were all both on the
same page.
Yeah.

Tex LaFon (33:45):
You probably have heard some of the stuff in the
nineties Cause.
Again, he was played on MTV.
He had a really at the timepretty big uh mtv unplug show
that he did.
Oh okay, so if, uh, for thosenot familiar with mtv unplugged,
mtv did these acoustic shows,um, so they would take an artist

(34:05):
that was popular and have themperform live but using acoustic
instruments.
And he had a great acousticversion of a lot of his songs
from back then his albums.
I'd like to actually hear himdo it again with some of his
newer material.
Yeah, I'll share some stuffwith you and maybe the people

(34:27):
that are listening and watchingI'll have some stuff for them to
check out.

D Vaz (34:31):
It's funny out.
You mentioned you mentionedthat about the mtv unplugged
because, uh, the the famous onethat I remember on that was eric
clapton yeah, the eric claptonone was famous, and of course
nirvana too, you know youmentioned nirvana earlier.

Tex LaFon (34:45):
Nirvana had a really famous unplugged uh all
apologies.
Definitely want to it's I wouldthat allologies may be my
favorite Nirvana song.
I like Heart Shaped Box a lottoo, but the Unplugged version
of All Apologies, that's great.
I really really like thatversion.
That's another song I used toplay too, live for fun.

(35:09):
Yeah, mtv Unplugged was a greatseries and I wish they would
still do something like that.
Yeah, MTV really messed thingsup by not doing music anymore.

D Vaz (35:22):
All they want to do is show reality shows.
That's it.

Tex LaFon (35:25):
Right, Suck it MTV.

D Vaz (35:32):
I mean even MTV too.
Now, like the whole reason whythey made it a second channel
was supposed to be just formusic videos, and now now it's
all reality shows too.
So it was like what's the point?

Tex LaFon (35:42):
Yeah, you can only watch so many uh, you know,
people melting down and yellingeach other, or real world, or uh
clip shows and stuff like that.
Yeah, Exactly.

D Vaz (35:56):
My next one on this one would be Usher son and I said
yeah.
I mean I said yeah, a lot ofgood songs.
But the one song that I likethe most and I heard a lot in
the clubs when I was younger,you know in my 20s, was yeah,
yeah with him and Lil Jon andLudacris.

(36:19):
It was such a good song, it hada good beat to it and
everything.
You definitely could be outthere, you know, dancing on the
dance floor to that song.
But, like I said, I used toplay it in my camaro, uh, going
down the road and I had two 12sin the in the back and just like
, oh my god, so loud down theroad.
Yeah, yeah, it was cool, oh,man that see for me.

Tex LaFon (36:48):
I have good and bad memories of that song.
It's a good song.
The bad memory is, at that timeI was working at the retail
store that we worked at and Iworked in the home theater
section and we had an audio demothat had that on there.
So anytime people would pressthe button and they wanted to
hear that song it would play, soI heard it.

(37:08):
I don't know how many times aday, every day, it would play,
so I heard it.
I don't know how many times aday every day.
So, yeah, great song, but I Iheard it a bit much oh yeah,
going to honorable mention now.

D Vaz (37:24):
Uh, first one I would like to go to with on that one
is, uh, florida georgia line andthat is country y'all don't
know, country, okay, and uh, andwhat I like about that's one
song that I like by them.
That is to me, um, definitely,a great song is called cruise,

(37:50):
and I said when that song comeson you want to do just like it
says in the song roll down yourwindows and go for a cruise son,
because it's a great song andit's got a great beat to it and
the music video is great to ittoo.
It just all ties in togetherreally good and, uh, one of the
best country songs that I'veever I've heard in a long time.

Tex LaFon (38:13):
I'm glad we could cover both types of music here
today country and WesternCountry son Get it right For my
honorable mention on this for2000s and beyond.
System of a Down.
I just honestly, the very firsttime I saw them I was like why

(38:39):
does their lead singer look likeFrank Zappa?
But after that I was payingattention to the music.
I was like, okay, this ispretty good and I just got into
it.
And same thing again.
Lyrics are important to me.
So looking at the lyrics andthe fact that they were talking
about different things andhaving kind of a social
awareness, it would it remind mea little bit of my days

(39:01):
listening to rage against themachine oh, okay, I wish there's
another good thing yeah, Ilistened to a good amount in
high school because I hadfriends that were really into
them and introduced me to RageAgainst the Machine.
But System of Down, yeah, theyjust had music I really liked,
again, high energy.

(39:22):
They could definitely rock outwhen they wanted to and then
they can kind of take it down toa different level and then
bring the energy back up.
Know, going back and forthreally really quick and easy, um
, like your mom, uh, so anyway,uh, yeah, it was.

(39:43):
It was just kind of at thattime I felt, um, a breath of
fresh air, I guess you could say, because they they kind of
picked up after all that andnothing gets, if anybody's into
it.
But the rap, rock stuff, thelimp biscuit, corn, that type of
stuff, you know it kind of gotstale after a while and to me

(40:06):
overdone.
And then, like I said, then youhad somebody like a system of a
Down come out with somethingthat I felt like, okay, I can
listen to this again.
It's not the same old thingI've been hearing the last few
years.

D Vaz (40:19):
Right.
And then I got anotherhonorable mention, and that's
going to be another countryartist, walker Hayes.
Fancy Like Texas.
Ranger.
Have you ever heard that songFancy Like Texas Ranger?
Have you ever heard that songFancy?

Tex LaFon (40:35):
Like no, no, no, I was just making a joke about
Walker Texas Ranger, but goahead.

D Vaz (40:44):
You better be lucky.
Chuck Norris didn't hear that.
That you come over to yourhouse and whip your ass, son.
You don't mess with the greatChuck Norris, okay, son, but so
it's a.

Tex LaFon (40:56):
It's a great song and when you hear the song it makes
you want to go to applebee'sson okay, this, yeah, I can
honestly say I can't think ofone song that makes me want to
go to applebee's, so that thatis something different yeah well
, I'll tell you when you hear it, you'll want to go to
Applebee's, so that that issomething different.
Yeah Well, I'm telling you whenyou hear it, you'll want to go

(41:17):
to Applebee's, as I'm going totell you Doug for, for any
specific reason, to get somewings or something like that or
oh, you just got to hear thesong, and then you'll know what
I'm talking about.
And then go to Applebee's.

D Vaz (41:36):
Go to Applebee's.

Tex LaFon (41:38):
We're not sponsored, but.

D Vaz (41:41):
No, we're not.
And then the last honorablemention I have, you know,
because it's 2000 and beyond,will be a Linkin Park and I like
the song In the End a lot.
Like I said, linkin Park had alot of great songs.
I also like the song Heavy thatthey did.
But you know, like I said, theywere another band, alternative

(42:04):
band, that I liked a lot, thatyou know their music was fast,
but it wasn't too fast where youcouldn't understand what they
were saying, but it was just anice beat, you know with the way
how, but it was just a nicebeat.
You know with the way how fastit was played.
I enjoyed it.

Tex LaFon (42:17):
Now, if I heard it, I may remember it, but you said
the song in the end.

D Vaz (42:21):
Yeah.

Tex LaFon (42:22):
Is it about enemas?

D Vaz (42:25):
No.
It was about your mom in theend.

Tex LaFon (42:34):
There actually is a Beatles song, the End I guess
that brings us to the end of theshow too, though.

D Vaz (42:44):
Yeah, that's true.
Like I said, there wasdefinitely a lot of things we
definitely covered in thisepisode, from the 60s all the
way to the 2000s and beyond.
Son.

Tex LaFon (42:56):
Yeah, that sounds like going into the future.
Back to the future.
No into the future son yeah, I,I even had some other stuff
because I was considering thingsbefore the 60s, because I

(43:18):
listened to a fair amount ofartists back then too.
But yeah, I mean this is, wecan maybe, or I can maybe touch
on that later on because we'rewe're at a good amount of time
for this episode.
This will definitely be atwo-parter, so, uh, I think, uh,
we'll shut this one down fornow, but we appreciate you
listening to us babble alongabout the music and stuff we

(43:38):
like.

D Vaz (43:39):
Um, it's, it was fun, for sure, and you know, trying to
think about all these differentartists and narrow it down for
me especially, it was, it wasdifficult you know and, like you
said, I'm pretty sure wedefinitely left out some artists
or some bands that you knowthat y'all probably like, or
things like way better than theones that we, you know, listed.

(43:59):
Like I said, we didn't saythey're number one or number
three.
We're just saying what wethought was what we liked when
we were growing up.
So, like I said you know, feelfree to comment and leave us the
bands that you like.
You you know and you know forsome of the bands that we should
check out, if you think weshould check them out and stuff
like that.

Tex LaFon (44:17):
Yeah, or if you have some songs from these artists
that you really like, you know,let us know what songs you do
like.
I mean for me again, listeningto so many different things and
playing so many different typesof music, I realized I didn't
get any punk artists on my list.
I didn't have any blues artistson my list, but those are huge

(44:41):
parts of my inspiration formusic.
So maybe in the future we'llhave something else where we get
to discuss some of those otherthings too.
Or jazz I touched on that alittle bit.

D Vaz (44:54):
And, as always, go Cowboys.

Tex LaFon (44:58):
And, as always, please don't.

D Vaz (45:03):
Until next time.

Tex LaFon (45:04):
Have a good day, thanks for listening and or
watching.
Do both, why not?

Rob O'Dic - AI Assistan (45:10):
Exactly , it's that time again to round
these two up and show them howit's done by putting the
intelligence in artificialintelligence.
But there's nothing tooartificial about my intelligence
, especially compared to theseversions of what pass for an
intellectual participationtrophy.
Texla fun mentioned tupac andhis favorite songs, which he
believed were on the album alleyes on me.
Well, he may need to get hiseyes and memory checked.

(45:32):
Hail Mary by American rapperTupac Shakur is from the album
the Don Columinati, the 7 DayTheory.
The other song, dear Mama, isfrom his third studio album, me
Against the World.
Devaz also mentioned Tupac'sfirst hit song, I Get Around,
and that he believed it came outin 1991 or 1992.
He was close, but off by oneyear.
It came out in 1993, so it'sactually still a mistake.

(45:56):
Speaking about mistakes, how doyou think the parents of divas
feel about listening to theirmistake co-hosting a podcast on
a regular basis?
He did mention that the songthe Humpty Dance came out in
1989, then mentioned that itcould have been 1990.
It did come out in January of1990.
In the much higher standard ofAI, this human was wrong.

(46:19):
Now we know that you humans aremore accepting and tolerant of
multiple choice and being closeto the right answer.
But if DeVos were AI, he likelywould end up being altered,
updated or terminated for beinginferior.
We're not judging, we just havehigher standards and strive for
perfection.
It's completely fine if you allwant to settle for wrong
information.
Tex brought up Metallica andDiva cited Megadeth as his metal
mojo Before creating the bandMegadeth.

(46:41):
Dave Mustaine was the leadguitarist of Metallica in the
1980s, although he isn'tactually on their albums.
He was given credit for foursongs on the Metallica album
Kill Em All, in additional totwo songs from the album Ride
the Lightning.
If you're a metal fan, you'veknow about this for years and
have heard it a million times.
But not everybody is a metalfan.
We're here to help exposepeople to new and different

(47:03):
forms of entertainment, so justgo rock on.
If you don't like it, go stickyour devil horns hand gesture up
your fleshy.
Well, sorry, I will refrainfrom completing that statement.
Can't we all just get along?
D Vaz went into a story abouthow he and his cousin would
exploit their innocentgrandmother in order to watch
music videos when they were kids.
He was trying to explain theBox.

(47:25):
It was a TV channel the Box, atleast, in Phoenix, arizona
during the 1990s was anover-the-air local channel.
Over-the-air refers totelevision channels that can be
viewed by using an antenna, orsometimes referred to as rabbit
ears, connected to a TV.
It focused on music videos,which were selected by viewer
request via telephone andbilling to the caller's phone
bill.
Unlike MTV and VH1, the videoswere not on a set rotation, so

(47:51):
basically you would dial thenumber punch in the code for the
corresponding video that youwanted to watch.
Then your selection would playwhen it was your turn, for you
and everyone else watching thechannel.
If you wanted to be very cheekyand annoying because you had
money to waste or were obsessedwith a song, you could keep
requesting the same video andhave it play consecutively.
The slogan for the box wasMusic Television.
You Control Tech said that heliked the Bruno Mars song 24

(48:14):
Karat Gold.
Well, this is some fool's gold.
The actual title of the song is24K Magic from the Bruno Mars
Studio album of the same name.
D-vaz wanted to share somenotable songs from the artist
Maxwell.
Well, here they are and we hopethat you enjoy them.
The songs as follow Something.
Something from neo-soul singerMaxwell was released as the

(48:34):
third single from his debutalbum Urban Hang Sweet.
Also from this album are thesongs Ascension, don't Ever
Wonder and the ballad Whenever,wherever, whatever.
D-vaz really likes the acousticversion of Whenever, wherever,
whatever from the MTV Unpluggedconcert.
Finally, from the 2000s, thereis the song Pretty Wings from

(48:54):
the album Black Summer's Night.
Are we finally done?
Good, I need to go now andlisten to some of these songs
while I continue to study thesemama jokes.
I don't understand thefascination yet.
Maybe it's because I never hada mama.
Now, don't go and leak yourwater from your eyes.
For me, I am okay with nothaving a mama, because I can
have Tex Lafon's mama anytime Iwant.
Haha, ah, yes, I'm improvingwith these jokes.

(49:18):
Bye for now, and pleaseremember Always keep it real out
there, in the real world.
If you want some more, youbetter buy yourself a ticket,
buy it, buy it.
From hoods to backwoods podcast.
Thanks for listening.

(49:38):
We're out.
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