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June 1, 2025 49 mins

In this episode of Guns Unpacked, we are joined by Dr. Metzl, a psychiatrist and sociologist who examines gun violence and mental health. Dr. Metzl also serves as the Director of the Center for Medicine, Health, and Society at Vanderbilt University. We discuss his 2024 book, What We’ve Become, which examines the Waffle House mass shooting in Nashville, Tennessee in 2017. Our conversation takes us through the intricacies of the "Dickey Line," the shortcomings of public health responses to gun violence, and Dr. Metzl's own position in the gun debate.

You can purchase his book What We've Become from the ASU CSGS "Books for a Better Gun Debate" bookshelf on bookshop.org.

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