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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Today we're covering
a case that left a permanent
scar on the community of BatonRouge, Louisiana the horrific
crimes of Sean Vincent Gillis.
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Hey everybody, I'm Holly andI'm Pearl, and welcome to Hold
(00:52):
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We live in Louisiana, so all ofour welcome signs say Bienvenue
on them.
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French culture here yeah.
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So that's more common
and less need to figure out.
But I was like, hey, what's theFrench word for podcast?
Surprise.
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Podcast, podcast,
just podcast.
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I'll apologize if we
type back and Google translates
something wrong.
Right, oops, oops.
Sorry, I don't want to stealyour mom's duck.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Right.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Not at all.
That would be my luck.
I don't have a place for a duck.
Sorry, no me either.
You're like this?
Duck can live in my bathtub, Iguess, right, I guess.
Duck can live in my bathtub, Iguess, right, I guess?
Speaker 1 (03:23):
I have two bathtubs.
I guess he can take one Right.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Oh my gosh.
So this week we've decided tobe in a good old BR yes, the Red
Stick and do some serialkillers there.
So at least we're back inLouisiana, but not in New
Orleans, because I know we livethere a lot Right.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
We live there a lot,
a lot, cause we live there.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
So the fun thing
about this and maybe it's not
that fun is I know I worked inBaton Rouge when all this stuff
happened.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Yeah, didn't live
there, but we lived adjacent
Like it was right there, andactually some of your guy Was
what?
Yeah, he, one of his victimswas in Denham Springs, louisiana
, but these two guys were on akilling spree together, not
(04:23):
together, together.
Not together, together, but atthe same time About the same
time yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
So basically what
happened was Derek Todd Lee, I
think they had just likearrested him and the task force
that they had assembled to catchhim there was some like left
behind people for that becausethey were still doing stuff for
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court purposes and stuff likeprepping for trial and all that
fun jazz that they ended uphaving to like kind of come back
to and be like, hey, can youhelp us with this, because now
we got more dead women right,even though he's locked up yep,
he's locked up, yep, he's lockedup.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
We have dead women
and they did take some DNA from
these other women that did notmatch Derek Toddley, correct, so
then they're like okay, so nowwe're looking for somebody else,
yep, and that somebody is SeanVincent Gillis.
That's who I am doing today.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
It was a terrifying
time, that's for sure.
You think, whew, they caughtone.
Yep, oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Here's another,
here's another.
There's more people out therekilling women in Baton Rouge.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
But wait, there's
more.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Yeah, I think there
wasn't a third.
A third one, yes, and I don'trecall his name at the moment.
Me either.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Maybe that's
something.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Yeah, is yours going
to?
Speaker 2 (05:48):
be just a one-parter,
yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Mine's going to be a
one-parter.
I know you're going to do two,so maybe I was going to say,
maybe look at the other one andsee, and then I'll do that one
as well.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
So yeah, mine's
definitely going to be two
pieces, yes.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
So like I, so like I
said, mine is, uh, sean vincent
gillis.
The other, the yes, he is knownas the other baton rouge serial
killer.
I'm like you know, he couldhave btk'd it and gave himself a
name.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
At least right
something I mean that was like
the least creative thing, right,but I was like uh okay, but
kind of like btk.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
He did a lot of the
same things he would strangle,
he would torture, kill, mutilate.
After the fact he did a lot ofthat.
So he was really, he wasraunchy, he was nasty with his
crimes and stuff, but he endedup killing eight women in and
(06:45):
around the Baton Rouge areabetween 1994 and 2004.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Yeah, so his like a
longer.
I know they overlapped, but itwas like they didn't start
discovering all these othermurders until after.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
You know his first
one, he.
There was a five-year gapbetween his first one and his
second one, and then he just ranwith it after that, Just went
crazy, yeah, well, I mean, hewas crazy already.
Right, like in his early life.
You know, on the surface itdidn't scream like future serial
killer here or anything.
No, like animal killing oranything crazy like that?
(07:21):
None of that.
So he was born June 24th cancer, 1962.
He was raised in SouthLouisiana by his mother, yvonne,
and his grandparents.
His father, norman Gillis, hadabandoned the family soon after
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Sean was born, so he got daddyissues.
Yeah, so he, you know he doeshave the daddy issues.
Interestingly though, hisfather reportedly struggled with
mental health issues, so maybeit was something that was passed
down, because it you know thatcan't happen, and he was in and
out of institutions.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Well, his dad was.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Yeah, yeah, okay.
So Sean didn't even see hisfather again until he was 17.
And this was about the timethat his criminal record began
with minor infractions.
Okay, you know there was theft.
There was just angsty17-year-old stuff going on, just
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angsty 17-year-old stuff goingon His mother.
So his mother, yvonne, by allaccounts, was like very good to
him.
She loved him deeply.
Sean even had close friends inhis youth, one describing him as
smart, respectful, humorous hewas.
They always said he was likethis funny guy, mm-hmm, easy to
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get along with all that stuff.
Cancer yeah right, like he wasjust great.
Cancer gets along with everyone.
They have.
You know, they have that.
Oh, you can come to me and talkto me about anything, type.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Absolutely, even if
you don't know me, right, see me
in the grocery and you're likehey, my mom, she and I'm
standing there going.
Why is this person telling meabout their mother?
Right, they don't even know myname.
They're like I feel like I cantalk to you.
I don't know your name, I wasjust looking for some spaghetti
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sauce, do you happen?
to know where the meatballs are.
Or the one time there was a manwho was like, standing next to
me and I'm looking at vitaminsand he's like, do you know where
the enemas are?
It's not for me.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
But do you know where
they are?
He had to throw that in.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Then why are you
asking me?
I'm like first of all, I don'twork here, right?
You don't work here, sir.
Secondly, you're standing infront of them, right?
If you just?
Speaker 1 (09:50):
looked.
Is that a pickup line, right oh?
my gosh, that's hilarious.
But yes, cancers are veryfriendly and very, you know,
approachable people, smart,funny people, funny people.
So he attended RedemptoristHigh School in Baton Rouge.
(10:11):
He graduated, even went on toattend community college, and
this is what I thought was funny.
He got his certification incomputers and I'm like what does
that even mean today?
It doesn't mean anything.
So it basically back then, whenyou got your certificate in
computers, you learn how to usea computer pretty much, or maybe
(10:31):
work on them a little bit, youlearn how to work on them and
figure some stuff out.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Now it's a degree in
IT.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Yes, so for a decade,
from his early 20s to early 30s
, he lived with his mother, hisearly 30s with his mother, until
she moved to Atlanta for work.
So she moved out of her housewith her son, right, she's like
I'm going to go to Atlanta.
Well, he didn't want to go, somom launched.
(11:00):
But he didn't Right.
So he chose to stay inLouisiana, receiving financial
support from his mother.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Oh my goodness, Even
then.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
So she was still
sending money, paying his rent,
doing all that stuff while shewent to Atlanta.
However, beneath this seeminglyordinary facade, there were
hints of something darker.
Did you hear, andrew, in myvoice?
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Well, well, well.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
If y'all haven't
listened to Andrew on TikTok, go
listen.
Well, his mother didn't see itand most mothers don't.
They're not going to go.
I think my son's a serialkiller.
Others described Sean as proneto fits of anger.
He got frustrated often.
(11:48):
He got very frustrated aboutnot having a girlfriend.
So he was, you know, lashingout doing these things and his
friends could see it, but hismother could.
His criminal record, like Isaid, began when he was 17, in
1980, and he had trespassingalso on there.
(12:09):
Over the years, this smalllittle thing escalated into
traffic citations, dui's,possession of marijuana.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Druggies Right,
marijuana Druggies Right.
Hey, newsflash guys, if youlive with your mom into your 30s
, you're probably not going tohave a girlfriend.
Right, I live with my mom, Likedon't get mad Move out Exactly.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
But you know nothing
in these early like brushes with
the law could have predictedthe monstrous path he could take
.
You might have thought you knowhe's just going to get put in
jail for some criminal activitySomething silly, stupid.
Not being you know his descentinto like serial murderness
Right.
So this began in March of 1994.
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This began in March of 1994.
So within this time period thathe was doing all of this stuff,
he engaged in sexual assault,mutilation, dismemberment, even
cannibalism of his victims.
He wanted to see what theytasted like.
He said he didn't like it a lot, but he did it anyway.
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He wanted to see.
He often photographed hisgruesome acts.
He kept body parts as souvenirsand just all of this grossness
happening.
So his first victim was Marchof 1994.
Her name was Ann Bryan.
She was 82 years old and shelived in an exclusive retirement
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, home-like community called StJames Place.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Yeah, very, very
familiar with St James Place.
I worked for a cleaning companythat cleaned some of the places
that when residents would moveout of those areas.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Oh, so you had to go
in and clean them, or if they
passed away or whatever, yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
We would go clean the
empty room before anybody else
moved in and one of myemployees' vacuums caught on
fire in there.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Maybe it was Ann
Bryan.
She was like Right.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Catch on fire.
It wasn't in 1994.
No, definitely not because Iwas 14.
Right, this was like way.
After that, I didn't work untilthe next year.
Right, and I didn't work there.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
But he had entered
her residence with the intention
to rape her.
She was 82.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
My goodness, gracious
, 82-year-old old and you're
gonna be like.
You know what.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
You know what that
right retirement you know, and
his thoughts are probably justlike uh, she'd be easy to
overpower, right, and that'swhat he figured.
But he didn't, you know,figured that she would start
screaming at the top of herlungs.
So this became a thing of likeoh my gosh, what do I do?
So he slit her throat and hestabbed her 50 times.
(15:14):
So I guess it was just more ofa like oh my gosh, like I have
to, you know.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
I have to kill her.
Got to shut her up.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Yeah, and when he
slid her throat like she was
almost decapitated when theydiscovered her body.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
So she definitely
stopped screaming at that point.
Why did he continue?
He just kept stabbing, stabbing, stabbing, stabbing.
He just went on a whole yeah,on a whole yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Hmm, and then
sexually assaulted her body.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
So he necrophilia?
Yeah, is what happened.
Okay, so add that to your list,yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
So you.
So then this was okay.
So his first one was March of1994.
So then he didn't kill againuntil January of 1999.
So he took a little hiatusthere.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
He must have got a
girlfriend.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
Maybe.
Actually he did later on.
So this was his second victim.
Her name was Catherine Ann Hall.
She was 29 years old Now.
Catherine was a lady of thenight.
She was a prostitute.
She was 29 years old Now.
Catherine was a lady of thenight.
She was a prostitute.
She had to get her moneysomewhere.
But that doesn't mean she'sless important, Less important
(16:30):
and you should go kill her,Right.
So Gillis lured her into hiscar, you know, promising to pay
her for oral sex.
So when she got into the carand she started doing that, he
strangled her with a zip tielike there's no release off that
like a zip tie that's horrible.
He stabbed her, he sexuallyassaulted her body and I guess
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part of his sick sense of humor.
When he dumped her body and thepolice found her, he had placed
her like sprawled out under adead end sign on a road.
What a jackass.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
So, but in her mouth
they found a pubic hair with a
root attached.
Even better, yes, so they werelike DNA, perfect, with a root
attached.
Even better.
Yes, so they were like DNA.
Yeah so, and this was still in,like 1999.
Yes, dna, still not as advanced, but it was there.
It's enough to work with.
(17:32):
Yeah, so, they ran it throughCODIS, but there was no match
for a previous offender becausehe didn't do anything like this
before Right.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
He had only had minor
infractions, so there was no
match for a previous offenderbecause he didn't do anything
like this before, right, he hadonly had minor infractions, so
there was no like DNA taken ofhim, right, or anything like
that.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
So then this was
January.
So then we move on to May of1999.
His third victim was HardySchmidt Schmidt Sorry, it was
Schmidt 52 years old.
I had a teacher with the lastname Schmidt.
I should know that.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
My dad's favorite
girl.
Well, my dad's girlfriend, thatis my favorite.
It is not his favorite,obviously, they broke up, right,
but my favorite.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Of his girlfriends.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Of his girlfriends.
Her last name was Schmidt.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Nice.
So he stalked hardy for threeweeks.
He was watching her routinebecause she would like to go jog
over there by the lsu lakesreally pretty area and
everything really nice housesover there, so she would go and
run.
So he was watching her,watching her routine, seeing
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what she did.
Yeah, it's one of those places Ifeel like everybody feels
pretty safe, so it was likearound five-something in the
morning, Not a lot of peoplearound at all.
Hardy Schmidt went out for herrun.
Gillis struck her with his carwhile she was jogging, knocking
her into a ditch.
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From there he like went downthe ditch, got her zip tied like
tie to zip, tied around herneck like he did with the
previous one, and he put somelike plastic wrap around there
too, like he had around her neck.
He put her in the car.
He drove her to an isolatedarea where he sexually assaulted
and killed her.
He placed her body in a trunk,kind of like the trunk murders.
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He put her in a trunk and thenput it in his car, his white
Chevy Cavalier.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
For two days oh Drove
around with her body in there,
in this sweltering LouisianaGross In May.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Yeah.
Yuck, it's already freakingnasty out and then he dumped her
body in Bayou.
St James Parish, or St JamesParish.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Like how did nobody
go by that car and still smell
that?
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Right, oh yeah, like
a few hours after you're going
to start sinking in this heat.
It's humid and gross out hereAbsolutely.
So yeah, that was saint jamesparish in a bayou, sorry saint
james place, and saint jamesparish like weird, yeah,
interesting.
So his next victim was januaryof 2000 and he was like really
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unarolled.
Then he was like reallyunrolled.
Then he was like okay.
So here we go, joyce williams.
She was 36 years old.
He, you know, his seemed to bezip ties was his thing.
So he killed her zip tiesaround the neck.
Um, he took her body to hishouse.
So he was dating his girlfriendat the time.
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She lived with him but sheworked at a convenience store on
the night shift.
She didn't drive, so he had totake her to work and back.
So no chance she's going to popin.
So no chance she was going topop in.
So he killed Joyce Williams,strangled her, mutilated her,
all that stuff, brought her bodyto his home and reportedly ate
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parts of her.
And then when they found herlater, like her bones and stuff
had saw marks where he had likebeen you know sawing parts off
and stuff.
Like just disgusting.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Is this the one he
showers?
Speaker 1 (21:19):
No, this is the next
one.
Oh, the next.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Same month.
I didn't realize he brought twoholes.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Yes, okay, same month
, same year.
So that's what I said.
He was on a roll.
He was like boom, boom.
He got another one, lillianRobinson, also known as Lillian
Gorgum Robinson, 52 years old.
He killed her.
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He took his body, her body, tohis home where he showered with
her corpse yeah and cleaned heroff, like again his girlfriend's
at work.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
So I'm wondering was
it like a fantasy situation?
I think, or was he because Idon't feel like.
Or was he trying to eraseevidence?
No, it was a fantasy thing forhim.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
It was him, it was in
his head and he, he was like
we're going to shower together.
So when I was watching a lot ofthe documentaries on this, his
girlfriend said that they didn'thave sex together.
He didn't want to.
It was a very platonicrelationship.
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They lived together, they sleptin the same bed together.
They did not have a sexualrelationship, okay, yeah.
So then, in October of 2000,marilyn Nevels, 38 years old.
She was killed in a similarfashion, with Gillis taking her
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body to his house, showeringwith her corpse, and then he
left it on the levee in BatonRouge, mm-hmm, so again.
So he showered with two of them, two, three of them to his
house, so like he was bringingthem in.
So then, three years later,october 2003, this is where he
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killed Johnny May Williams.
Now, he knew Johnny MayWilliams.
Oh, he had previously workedwith her, he knew who she was.
She was 45 years old.
He killed her with a zip tie.
He also took parts of her bodyas souvenirs.
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He removed both of her hands atthe wrist.
So like I guess to think like,oh, I'm gonna take her hands off
, they won't be able to identifyher body, or something I don't
know but at this point he's justrunning around doing all kinds
of nasty stuff.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Just yeah, not
getting caught Like randomly
weird things.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Right, but then this
is where you know.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
You know, I'm
wondering if he didn't do some
of this weird stuff, like he'strying to throw them off, like
Right, this isn't the same guy,because this happened different,
right, and but hello, thestrangulation with zip ties
makes it pretty obvious yeah,it's the zip ties like he.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
That was his thing
that he used because it was easy
.
He didn't have to, like, put arope around their neck or
something and then that doesn'trequire him to be a strong man.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
He just has to be
able to tighten the zip tie.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
yep, because there's
no letting up with that.
It's's there, it's stuck atthat position.
So then his last victim,february of 2004, donna Bennett
Johnston, 43 years old.
So, gillis raped and strangledher with a nylon tie wrap Maybe
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he ran out of zip ties.
Right Wasn't prepared.
Yes, he mutilated her bodypost-mortem, including slashing
her breast, removing one of hernipples, gouging out a tattoo
and severing an arm.
This is the one he said that inhis interview.
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The the back of the tattoo hadfat on it and he wanted to know
what it tasted like.
He said it didn't taste verygood, but I tried it anyway.
Like, just matter-of-factlysaid it like that in the police
interrogation when he wasconfessing to everything.
Yeah, like there's nothingstrange about that at all, so
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only three of these women theyhad his DNA from, so they knew
that this guy had killed threewomen.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Yeah, at least.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
They had this
matching DNA, but again nobody
matched it because he had nevergotten into trouble.
Right, no person so you know, hegot a little sloppy.
He left a tire mark, oh, whenhe dumped a body.
So, going back to donna bennett, though, he took like 50
(25:54):
pictures of her uh-huh while shewas being mutilated and all the
stuff he did to her.
He took all these pictures tokeep as souvenirs so he could,
like you know, get pleasure fromlike looking at them and
remembering and was all thatstuff like found when they
arrested him?
yeah, when they, when they wentthrough all his stuff, they
found body parts, they foundpictures, little souvenirs, here
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and there, of all the stuffgotcha um.
So in april of 2004, like Isaid, the tire tracks were found
near the body of donna bennettjohnson.
This tire was sold in the batonrouge area and only about 90 of
them were purchased.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
So that's a small
pool, considering what it could
have been yes, so.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
So they got on it
like police were on it.
They said, you know, they weredaily going, did anybody find
this person?
Did anybody find this person?
So they were.
You know, state crime lab waslike on it, trying to find every
single person, going to findwhere this person lives, ask
them questions and all thatstuff, ask them questions and
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all that stuff.
So they were able to narrow itdown when they found that this
particular tire was like, it wasonly manufactured within a
three-year period, so that's whythere were so few sold.
Gillis happened to be one ofthe people who bought this tire.
So there we go.
So they went to his home.
Um, they heard some noisebecause they went up to the
front door there was nobodyanswering.
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They heard a noise from aroundthe back of the house.
So they walked around.
They were like hey, you know,we were looking to see, you know
, if anybody was home.
And he's like oh, hey, you know, he just talks to him like a
normal person, like he ain'teven scared.
Nothing, nothing to do withanything.
So they ask him some questions.
They ask him about the tires.
(27:44):
They were like, hey, we'retrying to investigate something.
We found some tire tracks andall this stuff.
Do you know this person?
So that's you know.
When they ask him if he knewdonna bennett johnson, he's like
no, I no, I don't think I knewthat.
Well, have you been in thisarea at all?
And he's like yeah, I was inthat area.
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I had turned around right thereand all that stuff.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
So he put himself
there.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
That's crazy.
Yes, so they asked him somemore questions and they asked
him if he would voluntarily givea DNA sample.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
Sure, here you go,
because he doesn't think he left
anything.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Not at all.
He's like they don't haveanything on me.
It's been all these years,right.
So they test, they took, theyasked him if he would come down
to the police station so theycould ask a few more questions,
so they could kind of keep himthere and everything.
So they asked.
So the sample was a match tothe evidence found on some of
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the victim's bodies.
They went after they had askedhim questions, cause it took a
while for it to come back fromthe lab.
Sure, they were trying to getit as fast as possible, right?
So he had gone back home.
His girlfriend at the time saidthat he never went to bed the
same time she did, and thatnight he called her his snuggle
(29:10):
bunny.
He wanted to go to bed at thesame time as her.
So I think he knew, he knew itwas coming.
So police pounded on the door,came in and she's like what's
going on?
And they were like do you knowthat you're living with a serial
killer?
I'm like, if I did know right,would I be living here now I
(29:35):
also read that he had shown herbecause he was, you know, he
liked pornography.
Uh-huh, he liked somepornography that had situations
where women were tied up orthings happening to them like
that type of situation.
Mm-hmm, he had shown herpictures and things yeah like
(29:57):
snuff film.
Yeah, he had shown her picturesand videos and things of stuff
like that and she's like I don'twant to see that, but it never
occurred to her that he was outthere doing this stuff to women,
or just sit there and go.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
why the hell do you
want to see stuff like that?
That's messed up.
What's wrong with?
Speaker 1 (30:13):
you?
Yeah, so she really just neverquestioned it.
Yeah, so you know.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
It's one thing to be
into to have your kinks and I
don't kink, shame people no.
But I think when you startgetting the, like snuff film
type stuff.
That is a line, yeah, a reallyugly line.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
Very ugly.
Gillis was taken into policecustody on April 29th 2004.
While in custody, he just kindof started sharing all the
ghastly details as he confessedto these murders.
And by that time they come backand match the three.
Well then, three turned intoeight.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
Let me tell you about
the rest of it, right?
So yeah, that's mine too, yeahthat's my, oh no, that's mine.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
I killed her Yep.
So soon after his arrest he was.
He had correspondence with afriend of his and he said I'm
still puzzled over thepostmortem dismemberment and
cutting.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
I really don't know
what the hell is wrong with me
that's the part that botheredyou, right, that you did more
stuff to them after they weredead.
Yeah, but not the cutting andall that stuff, not the killing
them initially, and dismembering.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
I just don't know
what the hell's wrong with me.
Wow yeah, Crazy, Crazy stuff.
But like these are the minds ofyeah, just their minds ain't
right already?
Not at all.
In August of 2007, in WestBaton Rouge Parish, gillis pled
guilty to second-degree murderfor killing Williams.
(31:54):
He received a life sentence.
Gillis was put on trial in EastBaton Rouge Parish for killing
Johnston in East Baton RougeParish for killing Johnston.
However, the judge did notallow Gillis' taped confessions
to be presented in court duringhis trial.
Gillis had requested anattorney during the interview
(32:15):
but was not provided with alawyer because he continued to
talk to investigators Like hecouldn't keep his mouth shut.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
After that he was
like let me tell you everything,
and I don't think that that'sthe fault of the investigator.
Like, if he's going to keeptalking, he's going to keep
talking.
Right, like that's not yourfault.
You told him he could have one,yeah, and he said, yeah, he
asked for one and then stilltalked Like, okay, well then I
still think it's very valid.
Yeah, valid, yeah, we'll letthe attorney get here when he
(32:48):
gets here, and he can tell youto shut up.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
I guess, right, you
do have the right to remain
silent, but on july 25th of 2008, gillis was found guilty of
first degree murder.
The jury deadlocked on thedeath penalty a week later, so
the judge judge handed Gillisanother life sentence.
On February 17th of 2009,gillis was once again sentenced
(33:13):
to life after pleading guilty tothe first-degree murder of
Nevels in Lafayette, parish.
Gillis wasn't tried orsentenced for any other murders.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
I think that's a
common occurrence, because he
had already had so many, but youknow, despite the fact that
they're guilty for all theseother ones too.
And I mean, at least he says,said everything, it's just.
I guess they just get to apoint where they're like, okay,
well, we don't need to.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
And his story, the
evidence, the DNA, it all
corroborated and you know it wasall there.
So they were like he's alreadygot all these life sentences.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
He ain't going
nowhere.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
He's not going
anywhere.
There's no parole.
So Gillis has been incarceratedat Louisiana State Penitentiary
since 2008.
And that's Angola which is avery rough prison.
Yeah, he is currently housed inpreventative segregation at
(34:17):
Angola due to him being a highprofile inmate and labeled a
serial killer.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
Yeah, and he he like
um different races and stuff
like that.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
Yeah, so ages races
like he wasn't like, yeah, he
didn't have a specific type likeno type yeah, it was young, old
, black, white, it didn't matter, he was anything.
Yeah, like, whatever the moodstruck him, he was like there it
was or just the fact that, ohlook.
That looks like an easy victim,right, easy target, yeah.
(34:52):
So preventative segregation isa maximum custody housing area,
preferably like a cell, whichmay be necessary because the
offender continued.
You know, their continuedpresident, their continued
(35:12):
presence in general populationis a danger um to the good order
and discipline that's going on.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
So they don't
probably a danger to himself
right and to himself.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
I I mean Jeffrey
Dahmer.
He was killed.
He wasn't put in segregation atall.
Yeah, so you know his presencedoes.
It poses a danger to himself,other offenders, staff, general
public, all that stuff.
At Angola they have two tiersin Camp F.
(35:44):
Death row complex houses 38 ofthe more egregious inmates and
78 or more are housed in Camp D,for a total of 116.
So they keep them.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
Separated from
everybody else.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
Yeah, they're not
able to do work detail, they're
not able to mix in with thegeneral population, so they're
really isolated.
They are able to, you know,talk to each other and kind of
have like a little bit of timeout.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
But nothing like the
other prisoners.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
So he was.
He was given a choice.
He chose to be isolated.
He didn't want to be in withthe general population, so he he
ends up spending like 22 to 23hours a day with no external
like stimulus.
There's nothing, yeah, but helikes that cancer, yeah, it says
(36:53):
.
You know, when I was likereading the article, it says
it's possible that gillis isn'tbeing affected by all of this
with his life in prison becauseof his ego and his narcissism.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
So it really doesn't
matter to him yeah, I'm sitting
here going.
How punished does he really?
Speaker 1 (37:13):
feel Right, like not
at all.
Sounds like he's like content,what's the guy you did that?
Like wanted to go there?
Because he's like, oh, I can gogarden, yeah, blair.
And he's like, oh, I can gogarden, yeah, blair.
And he's like, oh good, I lovegardening.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
Right, exactly, and
just content in everything Like
how do you feel like justice wasserved at that point?
You don't, Nope, Not at all.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
I feel for the
families, absolutely, they've
got to be like this is BS and heis still there to this day,
bushlager Right, living out hissolitude life in a cell, you
know.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
I mean, I love being
by myself.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
I do too.
I really do, but I meaneveryone.
So that's why I'm saying itwouldn't be a punishment.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
I'd be like woo.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
I mean occasionally.
I do want to go out and like goto Target and get some Starbies
or something, but you know, ifI lived in a cell with my dog,
I'd be like You're good.
Can I have a comfy blanket,some scented candles?
Speaker 2 (38:25):
I have good like, can
I have a comfy blanket, some
scented candles I have.
I can get books right.
Right, I can read books, mypets, I'm good hey I get you
thinking, you know I always go Iwasn't made for prison, but I'm
like when they start lettingdogs come right.
Speaker 1 (38:40):
But maybe you know
preventative segregation, that's
the way to go.
But that's the you know storyof Sean Vincent Gillis.
There's a whole lot more.
There is a whole A&Edocumentary on him.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
Butchers of the Bayou
which also has your guy in it
that you're doing.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
There's lots and lots
of interviews on YouTube of his
whole confession, everythingthat he did.
I didn't go into a ton ofdetails.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
Yeah, there's so much
you can watch.
Speaker 1 (39:12):
But if you want to
know more about him, absolutely
go look him up.
He is, like I said, right upthere with BTK.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
And there's a lot
more stuff about his victims and
their lives, like his victimsand their lives, and I know the
first one.
You were talking about Butchersof the.
Bayou like a lot of familymembers actually participated in
that one Right, so there'sstuff you can learn about and
Bryant yeah, and then I think itwas.
Speaker 1 (39:43):
Was it Hardy
Schmidt's family also?
They, you know, theyparticipated and there were
several others.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
Yep.
Very informative, yeah, andalso very, very sad yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
And he's very, very
sick, absolutely In the head.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
Well, Well, well well
.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
You're going to have
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Speaker 2 (40:10):
Well, well, well,
well, you're going to have to
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Yes, with that part.
Yeah, I know when we both didsomething Andrewski-like.
I know it's Andrewski on TikTok.
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He also does reels
and he's on Instagram and
everything.
Speaker 1 (40:26):
He's also an attorney
.
He's hilarious.
Yes he is hilarious.
Y'all should go look him up.
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And all the women
want to eat him up.
Yep, absolutely, he's overthere going.
All the women love me.
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He's a good looking
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He's also a very.
His natal chart is veryaquarius.
He has a lot of aquarius in hischart, which means god complex.
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