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November 20, 2024 119 mins

In this episode, we’re diving into everything you need to know about Week 12 in college football! From epic finishes to season-defining upsets, we’re breaking down the most important games, analyzing the top plays, and discussing how the playoff picture is shaping up.

Then, it’s time to look ahead to Week 13. Rivalries are heating up, playoff hopes are on the line, and we’ve got your full preview of the matchups that matter most. To wrap it all up, we revisit our 12-team playoff predictions, updating our picks for who’s still in the hunt and who’s on the bubble.

Don’t forget to like, comment, and subscribe to stay updated on all things college football. Let us know who you think will make the playoffs!

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(00:00):
Hello and welcome back to the Hold the Line Sports betting podcast where we do the work so you do not have to do it.

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We are coming back to you live second time during the live session. I love these. We got a jam packed schedule today.
Going to discuss what happened during week 12. Our updated playoff picture and predictions preview of week 13.
We have a second to last weekend of the regular season which is just mind boggling. I can't believe how fast it went by.

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And then yeah that's going to be it. I guess we'll start. If you haven't if you have. Yeah I know we'll have to figure out where we're going.
There's going to be bull season and we'll have to figure out how we're going to monitor bull season playoff predictions there. There's still plenty of content to get through.

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But as far as the regular season that's going to be it. If you haven't yet not sure what we have for viewership make sure you like the video.
Subscribe to the channel if you haven't done so yet. Brandon is going to tell you he's going to remind you again to do all that at the end of this.
But I think without further ado let's go ahead and recap the previous week. Brandon let's start with the games of the week.

(01:15):
Yeah pretty pretty solid slate we had for the games of the week. I'm starting to get fired up about this team Arizona State. They played Kansas State.
They're making some noise. Arizona State took the victory 24 to 14. Awesome to see. I don't know why I just I like that they're bringing some noise. They're giving BYU a little bit of run for their money.

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It's fun to watch. And we go back to the SEC. We're going to go South Carolina versus Missouri which was a little disappointing I would say for some of us to watch because I think most of us had South Carolina minus the world.
And for some reason the game was close closer than we thought didn't feel like that but the game ended up being closer than we thought South Carolina takes the win 34 to 30.

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And then we go to the highly controversial biggest game of the week regarding the SEC Georgia versus Tennessee UGA with would I would probably consider a little bit of a backdoor cover at 31 to 10.
The line was 10 points for Tennessee like I said from my pick I couldn't go wrong because I'm a Georgia fan. So I took Tennessee plus 10 Georgia cover good teams good teams win great teams cover so we see where they're at.

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But yeah we should you know SEC is getting checked up a little bit. There's a lot of action in Big 10 coming up this week. A lot of action in Big 12 as well for the next few weeks. So I mean every week we get closer to the end.
I keep getting more and more excited just to see how things unfold. See what comes of this college football season.

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And I like that it's shaping up this way where it's all tight. There's a multiple teams in each conference that could have a chance to have a good resume for playoffs.
So I think it's one of the best years of college football we've had in a while.
Yeah I think before we go into any more. Go ahead. Love you to Pookie. Shout out McGee.

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Yeah I think conference by conference. It's like there's not you know if you compare like SEC to like Big 12 there's obviously a disparity.
But like inside the conferences like everyone is so competitive with each other like every game is is a little bit of a dogfight.
It's been to me the most fun to watch the hardest to bet on but the most fun to watch.

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We'll go ahead and start with let's do Arizona State and Kansas State first Nate we can start with you. Just some thoughts that you had on this game.
Yeah I mean I think we said last week Arizona State was going to keep this close if not win it you know and obviously they did.
The thing with me about this game is every Johnson did not look awful but their offense is just not producing as a whole right now like they should.

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And on the flip side you'll hear about it a little bit later but Arizona State's playing really good on the defensive side of the ball so it's not all of Kansas State's offense but Arizona had really good defense.
And along with that Arizona State's offense they just keep trucking along man this is I think how many games they want to row four five right out there on the street so they're high very they're moving the ball with ease right now against just about anybody that play.

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Yeah I think for every Johnson I think the second half he played with some fire and I thought he had a competitive game the first half for Kansas State was almost laughable like it in and they didn't really look competitive for the first half of that
game for a season. And I like there was a few weeks ago where I know I remember talking about Arizona State and I was like watch out for these guys and then I like we make our plays for this past week and I don't even think about an

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Arizona State cover which is like what I so I should have done and I just went points and I like hyped them up three weeks ago and I just totally crap the bed there. But what I will say I apologize Arizona State you're not getting enough shine.
But when you check out my my playoff bracket you will that shine is coming I'm going to make it up to you guys.

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Oh yeah I talked about a Scataboo before I think he's a great running back but the person that no one talks about enough is Sam Leavitt that is a nasty quarterback bro he is that's a nasty quarterback all our multiple arm angles the ball gets out looks good he's he can throw the
deep ball he can create like this is a legitimately good quarterback that no one has talked about he's and there's you know he didn't exactly start the season so I guess it's kind of like a came on late but like that's their starting quarterback

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and he probably should have been from the beginning that dude is good. Yes that's really all I got. He threw for right at 300 and K States been I mean they've had a pretty good defense throughout the rest of the year or earlier
no he ran he ran that offense dude like it was I was actually very super disappointed with Kansas State but very impressed with Arizona State. Will Brandon you guys got anything.

(06:35):
I mean like I said I think Arizona State is just I mean they're exciting team to watch and I like what they're doing in the big 12 because they are making things a little difficult for for some other teams like say BYU Colorado stuff like that and Kansas State I think
is quite fraudulent I think you know when we did watch we watched them play BYU earlier in the season and they got absolutely bad. Yeah I just I think they've gotten by for a long time this season playing mediocre teams.

(07:10):
I would say they're above average but I can't I can't see them winning a game against anybody in the top 25 so good job there is an estate for sure. I was their money line I know I talked about it like hinted at the idea last week so little upsetting
but you would have covered. Yeah. Yeah you had the win anyways.

(07:33):
Yeah me and I remember me and Brandon talked about money line it was in play but we didn't take it. I think eight and a half was the most free line ever. Oh yeah.
But I will. Yeah I'm an idiot request something if we could go to I know we usually do the best game for last on games a week but I say we just jump into the Georgia Tennessee one strictly for this comment

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strictly for who's that coming down the track. I did I did go through that with a shot of fireball on Saturday. Somebody clip that so we can get will will caught saying yeah that was fire.
I got a signal. Yeah I was just jumping to it. Yeah I'm sitting. Yeah apparently you had a good time Nate from from the stories here. I'm hearing. Yeah.

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I'm going to watch fireball with that little chant. I mean yeah you were a Georgia fan this week though. Yeah you were a Georgia fan this week weren't you. Yeah he said that in the group chat.
Yeah yeah that's odd. Yeah I guess I can go first since I have probably the least say about it. Yeah I got it a little bit yeah.

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I mean Georgia what didn't they score what 31 on answered something like that. It was pretty. No no no I don't know if there's 31 on answer but I know that after the first quarter they outscored them 31 to 7 which is
ridiculous. The offense just didn't look explosive at all. And the one thing is I can't remember off the top of my head but I don't think Carson Beck had a turnover.

(09:19):
It did not. Yeah so that I mean like you see what happens. Carson Beck doesn't have a turnover and you beat a top 10 team by 14. Like I mean it's something to be said.
But I think I think this kind of it puts Tennessee on the outside looking in and the college football playoff picture because they have to look good in these next two games even though they're not playing maybe the best competition

(09:49):
but they have to they now have to prove why they should be in the college football playoff because they won't make this his championship they won't get the automatic automatic bid and there are so many teams vying for like those last three spots basically.
Yeah. No I think you're right. Well that makes perfect sense. I mean we've seen. Carson Beck can be a good quarterback. He just can't turn the ball over so much and why the receivers can't drop passes. I mean I think it was the first or second

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game. I think the first game of the day of the game should have been a touchdown and we had a drop pass a drop deep. So I think as far as Tennessee. I think there was two and like the first couple of drives.
It felt like here we go again. This is like the same thing we saw with Ole Miss just drop pass drop pass. So I think on the flip side though for Tennessee. I mean they did be Alabama that was at home and still got a thing.

(10:53):
There was a red shirt freshman quarterback young guy going into I would say a tough environment night game at Georgia. They still ran the ball fine. I would say I think I mean doing Samson he's that guy but Nico only had 167 years.
So I think the way we've seen teams be Georgia this year and in the past is you got to throw the ball you got to have explosive plays explosives. Yeah explosives for sure.

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You might have success running the football but it's not going to get points on the board against UGA. Like it's just not you can run the ball you can get six yards here you can get seven yards there.
But eventually they're too athletic up front. They're going to wear you down as an offensive line. They like to run down like head down just attack to run they love it. You got to beat them over the top you got to have explosive play after explosive play and keep the defense on their

(11:50):
toes. And I just think I don't like Tennessee's whole game plan is to line up quick get the snap off quick. They don't want you to be set up they want to have mistakes and I think Georgia mostly for the defense did a good job of getting lined up getting ready for the snap and guys were where they were supposed to be.
And I think we found it on this and they didn't come to play against Ole Miss at all but the Georgia defense is still top three in the league without a doubt. And I just think you know it's a testament to the preparation that they put in against Tennessee which is funny because I don't think Tennessee was very prepared for this.

(12:29):
I think first of all I agree with Carson Beck especially when you start talking you know playoff picture big picture that's the version we have to see of him if they're going to compete. We can't rely on the run game.

(12:50):
I mean even in this like we just can't we can't do it. We don't get enough yards on the ground. Carson Beck is the difference maker. If he's going the offense is going to flow through him. He's making good decisions we will score.
If he's doing that we score 30 plus points every game against whatever defense but he has to be doing that. And if we get to that point there's not a lot of teams who are going to be able to score 30 points against us. It puts us at an advantage.

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But it all starts with him so I was pleased to see that effort from him that's the best. Correct me if I'm wrong is that the best he's looked this year. Like I'm thinking back in second half of his best game in terms of just.
Sure yeah yeah that was that was next level.

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When Carson Beck can like when he finally accepts the role of just being the game manager that would Georgia just needs a quarterback. That's when we're going to just see a more healthy looking offense.
Like what I mean by that is you know we refer back to Stetson Bennett a lot and even back then.

(13:57):
It's not like Georgia was having over five explosive really big down the down the field plays a game. It was maybe one or two was maybe like a long Brock Bowers catching run or something like that.
But the offense and the kind of the way they move is just like slow grind it out. Everybody's got to execute and stick blocks. They're going to run the screenplays.

(14:20):
They're going to try to run it right down the middle. If everybody just executes and block they only might get four to five yards of play. But that's what they want to do. I mean they want to keep you on the field.
They want to keep the defense on the field just play after play after play. They want to extend these seven eight minute long drives all the way down the field and they don't want to give the offense a chance to get set up get rolling and just be out there.

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And that's exactly why we saw Ole Miss beat the snot out of Georgia is because their offense was back on the field over and over and over again just in rhythm.
And like same thing with the Ole Miss game drop dropping catches nobody could block. I mean just like fundamental stuff that you have to win football games.
I still think Georgia's athletes and playmakers are still top tier. But if we're not blocking and we're not catching footballs and we're not getting that four yards to carry five yards every pass at least stuff like that to where it's sustaining drives.

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Then it's just all chaos. Then they try to do Carson Beck tries to it looks like he tries to take over the game. He tries to fit balls in two types of windows and he ends up throwing interceptions turning it over.
He holds the ball too long just stuff like that. So I mean if they can play like it's as cliche as you want to think but they just play and execute the little things like as a team.

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I mean there's there's still in my opinion easily top 10 team easily put them in the playoff team.
Yeah I think and they've they've shown it multiple times where if they have that level of execution they they beat Texas by multiple scores. They beat Tennessee by multiple scores like if they have this level of execution their top end is better than most teams top end.

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But they don't bring it every week and that's been the issue.
And I mean this made you have a stretch of games that stretch of games that we watch Georgia go on is just I mean that's probably one of the hardest schedules like for four week stretch anybody's ever seen in a regular season play
besides Florida whole whole schedule this year.

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True. Well.
Yeah. Number one statistically hardest schedule.
Some teams didn't turn out to be as good but I mean Georgia having to go on the road to Texas. They had to go. I mean I still consider the Florida game not a home game because you have to travel and it's split fans.
It's not like you have advantage there.
And then on the road to Ole Miss and then finally get back to a home game.

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I think I mean that's insane.
Texas Florida.
That's a gauntlet for sure.
Tennessee Ole Miss and then not to mention we play UMass this week which is going to be a sleeper but then next week we have a explosive.
What you mean this is the toughest test.
Yeah we have an explosive trap game against George Georgia Tech.

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Who Georgia Tech is going to come out and play for that one.
I'm telling you they're going to come out and play.
The world I think that game is at Georgia so that helps.
Yeah.
I'm excited for that one. I'm not excited for UMass but the Georgia Tech game those boys are going to come.
They're going to come for it.
It's going to be a lot of fun.
Georgia Tech's trap game is this coming weekend because I don't even think they low key care that much about NC State as they do Georgia.

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Definitely even though it's like in conference.
Yeah it might be honestly.
Nate you got anything on this one?
Yes.
From the little bit I remember.
So a couple hot tips.
First off good job Georgia.
They I mean they played like they should whatever.
So this is me speaking as a true football fan.

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Not a bad my fan because I know Tennessee be bad my whatever.
The only reason they may or may not make a playoff is because of their defense and Dylan Simpson.
That's it.
I mean Niko Maliava I was expecting more Tennessee has a awful passing game right now.
I mean say what you want but how many times are they drew.
How many times are they driving the field with Niko.

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That's true.
You know even against some of the worst defenses they've played they're not getting the passing game going.
I mean he threw two picks against I'll Emma.
I mean Dylan Simpson carried that game their defense carried that game.
And that's a little bit odd too because you like you know if a team has a really good running back you tend to you know that kind of opens up the play action pass game too so.

(18:52):
I just don't know if they trust Niko yet for some odd reason I think he's solid but they don't let him throw the ball down field they just try and they try and run a pro style offense when that's never been Tennessee ever in their life.
No the play calling has continued to be safe.
One thing too that we didn't mention and that for Carson Beck obviously the biggest thing is him playing better.

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Also he didn't get sacked a single time.
I think that helped a lot.
The line showed up was not a pressure at all.
Yeah I mean it looks like to me it looks like a hop was holding back on Niko.
But I'm starting to learn more and more like you know I'm sure I'll remember him after Oklahoma game I just wanted to hold back a little bit whenever he said that.
I just think he doesn't trust him to win ball games.

(19:41):
I'm starting to get that feeling that he doesn't trust him to win games yet.
But you know when you have a defense like Tennessee and Dylan Simpson like I said earlier I mean you can cook up something.
It is weird.
Anything else on this one?
That's it on that one.
It's weird that they run the pro style offense but it's that fast paced.

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It's like typically if you're that fast paced you're going to kind of it's like usually like a run on first down get a couple maybe get like a close second down so you can throw a deep shot and then have it easy third down.
I'm about to say or you take a shot.
Yeah yeah.
And then it's just like it's like a pro style where they try to split it but it's just they're on the ball in 15 seconds.

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So it kind of like defeats the purpose almost.
You might as well just hug along.
Yeah yeah because you're not making the defense run like DBS aren't secondary is not running around like they're not chasing guys.
It's like buried the plays happen quickly and then they're over quickly and then you can get back to the line quickly.
So it's not right.
There needs to be more taken down field to try and exploit those opportunities.

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That's because because then the defense can't switch out like if it's if you're operating at tempo the defense has to stay on the field and that's when you can take advantage of it.
But not if you're going dinking and dunking you know six to eight yards at a time.
Yeah.
And then the defense is going to be able to take advantage of it.
Which says does Georgia Tech own the state of Florida.

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They be able to get in my this year.
You're lucky they didn't play the Gators boys are nice.
Now we win that game easily.
DJ is already a top one quarterback in the country.
Top one.
He's good.
No no like no joke.
He's he's actually really good.
The thing is that you know these guys are really good at breaking the record.

(21:39):
Yeah.
They're gonna let them off to leash a little bit and I think he's going to be.
He couldn't you move this week.
He could.
He couldn't you move this week and he looked good.
South Carolina Mizzou.
Yeah let's do it.
Brandon go ahead and go first on Missouri South Carolina.

(22:01):
this this game was felt weird because
Like you felt like South Carolina had control the entire game and I mean, I mean they played an excellent first half
I think this kind of goes back to a couple weeks ago when we did you know refer to Georgia again
When you know, they're gonna show up for four quarters every time

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It was like almost like South Carolina jumped up pretty high and then second half and fourth quarter
Just kind of was like oh crap. We still have a ball game to play in but what I will say is
Sucks that didn't cover
Brady Cook showed a little bit of like last year Brady Cook as as far as like, you know a little bit more dynamic

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a little bit more of an explosive player
And the run game was pretty freaking impressive too. Like I think it's Nate Noel. I think he had 150 yards
so that was impressive but I
Mean still with those good numbers still South Carolina to put up 34. It's just kind of

(23:08):
This is the Missouri honestly that we've been looking for that
We thought we were gonna get all season and then they just been
Mid so I think I think sellers
Has a chance I would say the old or the way too early prediction
Possibly could win a heisman if he plays really really high level for the next few years

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But I
Just think South Carolina. I mean
They're they're deserving. I think I think their resume is deserving as anybody's right now
That's on the fringe of a playoff sucks that they have that third loss
But they fire me up man, I love watching South Carolina
They're fast on defense their quarterback is I mean dual threat rocket Sanders is awesome

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What's not to love about South Carolina?
Yeah, I think like you said that was Missouri's best game
Like that's the best game they have played the entire season
That was like you said the version that people not me other people were expecting to see out of them
And it took until week 12 for it to happen. Um, I

(24:19):
Agree on South Carolina sellers is a problem. That's a that's a dangerous man. We five touchdowns five touchdowns. Yeah
Yeah, he's no that that dude's exciting and
Also, yeah, pretty brandy you kind of nailed it. I agree with every single point you made
I was low-key impressed with Brady cook. I think that was a

(24:39):
a
That was a good performance like
Like you could tell he wanted it like like he played to win he played to win that game
And I think he left it all out on the field
He played a great game in my mind and I liked the running back to I think no well is nasty
That that's how he played all of last year. Like yeah when you when Missouri took the field

(25:02):
They were they were gonna play football for four quarters. Like you couldn't slow up
You had especially I forget the name of the running back. They had last year. That was really good, but it was right
Yeah, sure. Shraider and he was he was the same way just gamers and it feels like this year
It's just like not not that. I don't know if like

(25:24):
Brady cook just doesn't trust this guy's enough to like slinging around and just have like it just doesn't look like it's fun football
Right last last year they had to account for Schrader and burden now. It's just a burden
They're run game
They don't have a ton of running game, but they're receivers like one two and three are up there with any program in the NCAA

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Like they have yeah burdens of pro one games birds of for sure
I mean even on the other side of the ball their defense like you look up and down the chart like they're not bad, right?
They got a good linebacker core good front front four. So they're D-Lons is pretty solid. Yeah. Yeah D-Line solid
They couldn't account for sellers though. They had no answers. They had zero answers for him

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I don't think there's been a team this year that's had an answer for sellers
No, one was LSU and I was getting them hurt. Yeah, that's about to say like you either took him out of the game
Yeah, kind of took him out of the game or there's been some self-inflicted stuff that that he's done from time to time
He's still a young quarterback
So he's still a little mistake prone or you see just some windows that he doesn't need to try and fit balls into but

(26:34):
That's what I'm saying like if he if he matures a little bit easy Heisman candidate
He will in the next few years. Yeah. No, he's gonna be good him and lagway those might might be like the one two
punch in the in the sec for real
Who would have thought floating in South Carolina getting that?
They're gonna make some noise. It's gonna help for recruiting too. You got a guy that can help you win ball games like that

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Beamer ball is some of the most fun ball to watch
Like South Carolina the way they do things. I mean the decisions he makes during some of the games is so fun
He's like a name brand Billy Napier
That's that's the way I describe him
Billy ball
Down you believe all says in the chat the only answers for sellers is himself

(27:23):
When he fumbles snaps, but he's cleaning that up. So
Yeah, I saw saying like exactly self-inflicted stuff, you know, he's
He's a young guy. So he's gonna do those things. I mean even experienced QBs have been doing that this year
It's been a lot of fumbles this year
College football 25 does not do his arm any justice

(27:43):
Well, I don't think they knew I don't think yeah, it's too accurate
Most people didn't like who knew like like who knew
Right
Oh anything else on this one speed
I knew it was a great game South Carolina Clemson in two weeks
No, I just think it's not gonna be a good game. It's not South Carolina is gonna win by two touchdowns

(28:04):
I just think South Carolina is gonna be a force in the sec the next couple years
For sure for sure. They're already they weren't even supposed to be that good this year
Yeah, they weren't even supposed to be that good and they're competing with the top teams
But no South Carolina and Clemson will not be a good game
the the quarterbacks in the

(28:25):
Old quote-unquote sec east in the next two years are going to be
Ely to watch
Yeah, you know, you got dj at Florida and nico at Tennessee sellers at South Carolina
I mean, I don't know who George is going to roll out there next year if it's
Um, jaden rachata or somebody but you know, they're gonna have somebody with talent. So I mean, there's gonna be talent

(28:47):
Is uh, is beck out of eligibility
Oh, yeah, I think fifth year. Okay fifth year. Yeah
Six, well, you can play for seven. Yeah, you can play for seven. So I didn't know
I think the last turnover for guys with like covid years and all that is 2026
So like after 2026, it's just it's either four or five years. You're gone. Just

(29:13):
Camerizing will be playing for another seven years. Yeah
Yeah, just a little yes or no real quick for brendan cam. Do y'all think george goes into portal for a qv?
No, they got three backups right now that there's three options
Yeah, they're probably all capable
Um
And from what I think they try to go get skill guys

(29:34):
Yeah, right say they signed juju. He's not starting next year
Kirby's not really big in the portal either. I think the only guys we have on the portal this year is the tight end
um
I forget his name and um
Uh, what's his name the guy from Missouri? I always go mind blank when we talk about george football players

(29:56):
I think I think with that it's it's either gunner or the portal. I don't think
I think rashada starts. I don't think if they get a freshman there he starts
I I legitimately think it's it's gunner the portal. That's what I was thinking. Yeah, and that'd be good though
I mean rashada rashada. I think he's
Capable it'll be good competition too, which is what I like like this year you have beck and he's projected

(30:20):
You know earlier in the year was projected a first rounder
So it's not like you're gonna have like the sixth teaching
Yeah, so you're not gonna have a lot of competition
Um
But now you know you got two guys that are gonna be battling for a spot. I love that
And that just makes it more challenging. So
I don't know who else will be out there in the portal as well

(30:44):
Thomas
Cam rising
cam rising
The guy that left I just want you know and I just want y'all say like Nathan said this if it happens
If for some
reason

(31:05):
On this earth Jalen Millrow decides to play another year college football. Todd Simpson will be the starting quarterback at Georgia next year
That would be sweet
I'll take it
I would take if that happens. I just want you know, I said don't think it will I think Todd Simpsons our quarterback next year
but just saying
I mean at this point you can get to pay you can get the same amount of money in college as you would it in the nfo draft so

(31:30):
Yeah, it'll be uh sellers. Yeah, I
I would like that
I would like that
Um, all right, we want ready to go toilet bowl
I guess sure
I'm not gonna spend a ton of time on this one, but it did happen and we did place money on it. I do have a staff for Florida

(31:55):
Oh, excellent because I got next to nothing other than the score and the fact it went to overtime
Uh, florida atlantic university at temple temple wins this one 18 to 15 in overtime
Real nail biter. What a game. Nate. What's your stat? What's your stat, Nate?
So it's not about the game. It's about the mascot. Um, so

(32:17):
Don't will this earlier every fbs team that has the mascot of an owl has fired their head coach this year
Hootie-hoo
FAU
Kennesaw state
Rice. Oh my god. Yeah. It's crazy
That's a heck of a stat

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But I mean owls are on the come up though next year
But for the game no stats no stats at all
Um, I got no fireworks here two bad teams playing bad football
No big plays no explosives. Um
Temple tried to blow it won the game

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But they didn't so
Um, I'm officially the toilet bowl guru
You guys have me in every other statistical category
The toilet bowl is mine and
You literally you cannot claim it from me. You're you're out of contention for first place. So stay there
I think the biggest thing that's come out of this game is tom herman's downfall

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I think I think that's the biggest thing that came out of this
Yeah, Texas head coach to be in fired from fAU he lead at houston
Yeah
Yeah, that's a mighty a fallen that's a
That's a tough road. That's a tough road
If you guys don't have anything on that we will move on to individual plays

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ready? Nope
Give me a yes. I am now Nathan
Okay. All right. Go ahead. Okay
All right. Yeah, so um on my individuals. I went two and one on the week
I'll start off with colorado versus utah. So um, I had over 46 and a half in this game
If I'm not mistaken. I said, I think Colorado has scored almost all that themselves and they did

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This was a very high scoring game
No, Colorado made utah like a pwe team out there. So not much I can say about this game
Colorado's defense did step up a lot better
You know or they are getting better throughout the year
Even though utah was playing with a backup qb. Whatever offense. Not that good. Whatever car. Rogers defense did step up still so

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Uh, next I'll go byu minus three versus Kansas and for any of you that watch football this weekend that did not hit
Um, that was an upset
so
I think the biggest thing in this game and byu might have got exposed a little bit because
Kansas runs a lot of ball runs a lot outside the numbers on offense. They're able to spread byu out

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You know, I think that really is what hurt them and they were able to hold on to the ball long enough
For byu couldn't get it in the score
um
So that one lost
Sincey plus four first half versus Iowa State. That was my plus money play. I did hit on that since he was able to keep it close
first half
They're defense just wasn't able to quite hang on during the second half

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So will that is it
Going to mine. Um second straight week of going one in two, but the plus money play hits again
um same
Oregon minus 13 and a half versus Wisconsin. Um had a little bit of a scare there
um
May see some shake ups in the college football playoff predictions based on it. Um, but I actually think Wisconsin's kind of trending up

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We'll see them later in my picks. Um
Then the plus money play that did hit
Penn State spread was 28 and a half bought it up to 29 got it the plus money
They absolutely blew per byu out
Um, it was not close at all really. Um, even from the first

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First like snap you could tell Penn State was going to blow them out
Um, and then going to Ohio State versus Northwestern. Um, I was watching this game
I was so confident the over was going to hit it was 31 to 7
Halfway through the third quarter. It's like, okay, they need seven more points or not even seven six

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And they got Ohio State gets stuffed on fourth down in northwestern territory twice
Northwestern gets stuffed on fourth down in Ohio State territory twice
This game
Literally like I I've never seen a more rigged against against the over game you get in
He kicked those field goals and and they hit

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But no you get stuffed on fourth down against northwestern
Twice when you have one of the best and most explosive offenses in the country
I I genuinely think it's just the wind was blowing in in wriggly. So, you know, the unders always always hits when it's there
Um, when the wind's blowing in so yeah one and two, but plus money play hit

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I also went one and two in the ACC
I experimented with some first half spreads. Uh, we won't do that again
That we're done with first half spreads for now
The first one was Cal first half minus three
Syracuse
Syracuse is a very difficult
team to bet on

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because they are so
Back and forth about whether they want to play good or play bad depending on the week
Syracuse played easily their best game of the season. They looked fantastic
And I don't think Cal was expecting them to be as good as they were especially having to travel all the way over there
Um, kind of that west coast disadvantage you that we expect to see in a lot of these games didn't happen

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Syracuse came out on fire. They actually won the game
outright and
Cal was favored by I want to say it was by seven and a half or eight
And uh, they got upset by Syracuse like 33 25. So Nia was to say Cal was down by like 16 at the half
So that didn't have a prayer
Um smu first half minus seven. I can't they were up by six, you know, so

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they
missed a 27 yard field goal on their first drive
Which nice if that field goal hits they are up by nine at that point
I can't be mad at that one. They ended up winning the game by 10
Like everything about the flow of the game was correct. So
I would bet that again, you know, I think there's just some bad luck with that one

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Boston College though shout out to Boston College against SMU. They played a heck of a ball game very competitive
There's actually a lot of fun to watch. They are not nearly as bad as I thought they were going to be
The run game is actually something to be taken serious
Last one was my plus money. This one was free. I had no doubts about this one. Uh wake forest plus 10 against UNC

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Um, that's the University of North Carolina for those who don't know
I thought the spread was entirely too high and we talk about like I've talked about this ACC
the difference between
team three and team like
15
Is just not that different. They're these teams are extremely similar and I would put wake at like team 15

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So I knew they would be somewhat competitive. Um, especially they've got a couple
Um games they still need to win for bowl eligibility
So I knew they were going to come out and at least try to win it and keep it competitive North Carolina
Did what they needed to do, but they only won by seven
So I covered on that one and it happened to be plus money, which I thought was crazy
Uh, but that was my ACC plays Brandon, uh, sec

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So as bill bill bryan, is he a better motivator than we thought?
See a better coach than we thought over there at Boston College
Hey, those boys are playing for him. They're like no doubt those boys are playing for him
And it's like a it's a fairly young group. They got a freshman quarterback now that thomas castellanos hit the road
Young running back. That's really good
They've they've got some pieces and they definitely the defense plays for sure. They put the work in

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They're they're uh
They're playing out of spite of castellanos
I like they're also one went away from bowl eligibility
If the guy on my team was like, all right boys, I'm a head out
I'll be like, all right. Oh, they said screw him dude. They they didn't lose a step. In fact, they got better. They got better

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So it was addition by subtraction. We don't need you. Yeah
Yep. All right
sec um
Start off with we'll start off with the L
Because we're getting some comments in and twitch right now about texas and I also hate texas for you guys in the chat
um
Texas as do I know what you say. Well good teams win great teams

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Cover cover texas fail to cover
It was 13 and a half spread against arkansas
Thanks, Nate. Um
And I took it I took it because I thought you know texas is the more talented football team great head coach
They're really fighting to you know stay in contention with that with the sec championship

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They want to make a statement. This is the first year in the sec
In arkansas a little beat up. I mean their their hopes and dreams this season are kind of done for you know
That kind of stuff
This game turns out to be a big way bigger rivalry than than I had remembered
For whatever reason like usually everybody just talks about texas oklahoma

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Apparently texas versus arkansas is massive
Back in those states so fun to watch but
Texas only wins 20 to 10
And I think this is this is a good time to bring up this comment from from the chat
So it refers to arkansas and texas so
It says how is arkansas a good win for texas but a bad loss for tennessee

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Very valid question. I think we can get to that
We can go in depth a little bit more than that and our bracket stuff because we'll talk about texas and maybe a little tennessee so
But that's a that's a good point to make
So like you can't consider that a good win for texas by 10 points and then say that's a bad loss for tennessee
It contradicts itself. So
We'll talk about that a little later, but more so to my individual plays texas sucks for not covering. I mean

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20 to 10 against arkansas
I mean impressive defense because they're tailing green for arkansas. He's a good quarterback. He reminds me like uh more average sellers
um, but
Only scoring 20 points over a bad defense. Where whereas oklahoma state earlier in the earlier in the year put up like

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45 against arkansas. So kind of concerning
um, but we'll move on
to the most free pick in the world
um, it was it's
alburn versus
ul minroe
This was like one of the three games I could choose on bovada because everybody other than like georgia

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Which was a game over the week in texas and arkansas on florida played like sleepers. So nobody had odds on them
This is like a must pick. Um, but the line the over under line was at
46 and a half
The score to that game was 48 to 14
Auburn god
So alburn covered the spread uh the over under by themselves. So

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I don't know why it was so low. I guess they thought that's free
But we're just gonna be zero offense, but I I had said in the last podcast
I think ul minroe is going to be able to score and help out. So
Um, love to see that and then we got another win with will's florida gators
I took the under 54 and a half
Uh simply because it was uh questionable whether

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um
dj was gonna play or not so
So
The guy from the guy from yale, he's not the answer for sure
Not even close. No, he's not good at the time when I put the pick in we were going to go under for sure
um lsu with the bad loss to alabama coming off of that the week before
Tell us to get fired up anymore because basically your sec championship and playoff hopes are kind of

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Gone, so I'm sure there's a lot of guys already looking at the transfer portal stuff like that looking to get on a better team for next year
Um, nonetheless, florida
Takes the w the underdog win
27 to 16
The over under was 54 and a half 26 or 27 plus 16 is only 43 points

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So we smashed over unders this week by 10 points by both games
You'd love to see it two and one in the sec
How um well how heartbreaking would it be if
Florida's one win away from bowl eligibility and they lose to fsu
You know, I haven't even thought about it because I don't think it's physically possible. I think it's more like either

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I think it's more likely that fsu loses to charleston southern this week than florida loses to fsu
I can agree with that at that point you can't be a fan anymore
Like there's just no way you could be a fan of a team. Yeah, if that happens
I'm I am now an indiana hoosier fact. I think I think we're doing already are man. You already are
I think dude from y'all is gonna break records against them

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He's not gonna play deejay deejays. He might play in the in the fourth quarter because it might be like in the second half
Yeah
Yeah, it might be like 35 to three. They might not even get three. Where's the game at this year?
It's in it's in tallahassee. So it's so it's gonna be all four to fans
I
Yeah, so home game home game really don't matter here

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I'm sure florida state fans haven't been to a game in the last four weeks. They don't show up anymore
No, they don't show up. They'll show up for florida
Because I mean it's a rivalry game it gives college kids an excuse to get drunk. So like they'll show up
Yeah, the student section will show up
I don't even think I legit don't think it's possible florida loses to

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To our members saying that about vandy earlier this year. You see what happened
Vandy has you know, it's different. It's different, but I did I did have that same statement there
They need to top 25 team florida state might have the worst florida state team of all time
Actually statistically, yes, it's the worst

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They haven't scored 21 florida. They have not scored. There's never been a worse florida state team
It's been very fun. We'll have to do it
And they might not do it this game against charleston freaking southern
That would be awesome. They're gonna do it
I think so too
But I would love to see them win like 20 to 3. It would be the most funny thing ever. It would be funny

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All right, let's uh, you want to do team of the week dog of the week disappointment of the week
Yep
All right team of the week i'm
They're gonna get some shine. I said it earlier
It's gonna like this this episode is is gonna be about arizona state arizona state is my team of the week
That was such a statement victory
Um, we all had pretty good feelings about them, you know competing in this game, but like they were clearly the better team and

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I think the most dangerous team in the big 12 right now
Uh, you can argue colorado, but to me, I think arizona state is right up there. So that's my team of the week
Whoever wants to next i'll go
Let me just go ahead and grab something for you
Okay
How about there in florida gators, baby?

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It's for the you beat the top 25 team dj lag away is
The absolute savior we've flipped multiple recruits strictly because of him got a five star receiver coming in strictly because of him
We're not done
It's d
I honestly
Team of the week is dj lagway. He's the team. He is florida

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I'm excited for their future. I it looks bright. It looks bright
All right, I'll go ahead. Um, I'll go with kansas. It's my team of the week. Um, really bad season
But they really put a dagger in byu season. Um, they exposed them. So I gotta go with them

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It's fair. Um, I'm gonna go with colorado. I like cams points as well
about arizona state could have easily chose them as well, but
Um, colorado handle business. I think uh, they're they're trending up every single week. So
Uh, they had 405 yards total offense and it was basically all shadore sanders

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Um, he he's trending up in his draft stock as well
and they are fun to watch and
Like last year they had all the hype with travis and shadore and all these transfers and all this and that
And then they just kind of sucked as a football team this year
They have all the hype with all the big names and all that and they're a good football team. So
I love watching them. I'm

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You guys will you guys will hear more about them in our bracket talk
Also, the correct answer is georgia. We just we we're
Where you know, we don't want to choose the same team every week. The correct answer is georgia
True. Yeah, they they handled business. That was the statement win of the week
Uh, dog of the week

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Uh, a lot of people don't know this name like they should you get lost behind like genti and uh,
Ohio states boy like those are some solid running backs. Oh, marion hampton is a professional
That is that's an nfl running back probably next year and he's going to tote the rock a lot
35 carries this past week 244 yards in a touchdown also had five receptions out of the back field

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He does it all he is literally north caroline his offense and he's going to make an nfl team very happy after this year
Mine
Um, he's actually I believe a transfer from arizona state
But transferred to florida just like we keep yours all day back in the day
Elijah badger six catches

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131 yards and a touchdown against lsu
It was it was basically the the the dj and elijah bad badger show like
Anytime it was a third and four third honestly third and twelve
The first read was always elijah badger
It like anytime we needed something he would

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He would he would come through and the touchdown catch was very good
Kind of you know back shoulder
Looked really good good throw good catch elijah badger dog of the week nice
Yep, i'm gonna go with shidore senders. Um, he went 30 of 41 for 340 yards just absolutely towards utah's defense

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well deserved
i'm gonna go with the four-eyed bandit
Lenora sellers even though he hasn't been wearing the goggles lately
I think he got contacts or something like that. So that's cool bring it back
Yeah, he needs to bring him back actually. I think he's better without him. I think he's been playing better without him probably
He had 353 yards five touchdowns. That's 353 yards on in the past game

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He also had 45 rushing yards, which I would say is it take low for him
um did throw one an exception but um, I mean
He's an explosive dude, man. Like I said last week. I'm telling you he's he's gonna be
The closest thing to jaylen milrow and like the lemar jackson type that we've seen and he's very young

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So very dangerous player to come. He might be cam newton for sure fast and big. We'll see true. We'll see
Disappointment of the week, uh, man, I you guys probably didn't watch this game, but louisville played stanford last week
And does anyone know how louisville lost this game?
Not a game winning vehicle?

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um
Yes, but
So
Louisville has the ball with it's tied louisville has the ball which it shouldn't have been that's crazy in itself
That stanford tied the game with them louisville has the ball and is around the 50
Might have been plus territory
Three and out trying to go deep for the end zone to just win the game

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um
Three straight in completions four straight in completions. Sorry they went for it on fourth down
So stanford gets the ball. There is literally six seconds left. They are on I want to say it is their own
46 ish because the ball didn't move it was in their own territory
They run like this like outside like screen pass gets knocked out of bounds

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Time expires unnecessary roughness call on the defense
They move up 15 yards and it's now a 57 yard field goal
Louisville do jumps off sides 52 yard field goal now and they bang it to win the game 38 to 35
It is the worst loss I've ever seen in my life

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Louisville is the disappointment of the week
I love football
I don't even think there should be any of this
It was insane
It was insane. I've never seen a team lose like that
Mine
Although they won the game based on how we all chose it last week how much we were

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Absolutely dogging on mizou the entire year hit, South Carolina
They should have won by 40
And they won yeah screw them dude had a had to score a touchdown with like 10 seconds to go
To win so yeah, they ruined my narrative for me
Ruined the narrative
All right, my disappointment you're gonna see a trend here is byu

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The biggest reason I picked them is you can't let a 3-1 team come into your place
And not and just like I said put a dagger in your season. It's it can't happen
Yeah, that's fair
Mine I'm gonna go with another team that actually won but it is going to be
Oregon

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They only scored 16 points against Wisconsin. Wisconsin actually was leading the game
13 to 6 going into the fourth quarter
So I mean wisconsin come on you got to show up for the fourth quarter
It's why you throw up the four fingers when the fourth quarter starts
We got to finish that game. So uh, that would have that would have really shaken things up in college football

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I'd love to see that
but
You know, you can't expect the team to play perfect every single week
Um, so, you know, you got to expect some some adversity to slip up here and there
Disappointing for organ still came out with the victory
So I mean signs of a really good football team that they still overcame that and won still disappointing still scary

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Yeah, found a way to win. I at the end of the day, that's what they're gonna they're gonna be okay with that
But yeah, you don't expect them to sneak one out by three against Wisconsin
Wisconsin
I was about to say like they're they're kind of peeking a little bit
So I did see it as a somewhat dangerous matchup, but I didn't see a three point like sneak it out win

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Okay, also want to go mr.
Mr. Gibson kip you are correct. Utah does not have a defense. They are very bad. They don't have one of them
What's that? Have a 27 year old quarterback?
Who should not be in college who should needs indeed calm?
Um, just thought I'd throw that out there correct
Yeah, maybe he's trying to be like a doctor or something they spend a lot of time in school

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I mean at least he has to have a degree right? It's not like no Stetson Bennett where he's in college for like seven years
Doesn't have a degree
Stett doesn't what if he was underclared six years and didn't have a degree. I'm like, what do you do?
I know he didn't have a degree
I don't know how he's academically eligible
I don't either

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Uh, do you want to do playoff predictor?
Let's do it. Let's do it. Let's see. Who will I share first?
Mm-hmm, who would I click on?
I think
Will are you on the youtube? Are you looking at the youtube too?

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Yeah, I'm looking at the youtube. Why we have how many people do we have on live on the youtube?
Uh, let me go back to it
Right now
Technically technically it's just me
Um, it's fine. Cool. But uh, we got eight people in the twitch
Yeah, twitch is on twitch. Yeah twitch is popping all the cow. Yeah, shout out you guys gets a double digits

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I'll start stuttering. We did have double digits. That's we did have two
Um, I'll go anyways. Shout out shout out Jacob. Um, he had to go to bed. It was past his bedtime. Oh
And then um, I assume my friend, um, his name is Miguel but we call him a gwee. He probably had to go to bed as well. He

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He's a he's a we appreciate them showing up though. Um, yeah
But yeah, this one's mine this this bracket
Um
Yeah fire away. I'm I'm a colorado believer now. Also as you can tell I'm an indiana believer. Um, there we go
Ohio state's gonna win. Oh, I I let me just

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So is this because of
I don't like skipping a I'm skipping a little bit
Did the oregon like barely squeaking one out against wisconsin like scare you or is this more about ohio state?
I it's I think it's a mixture of both like I think Oregon
I mean they they slipped up a little bit, but I think I still think they're like I think that semi final game decides the national championship like it's

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It's I I think
And it's hard like it's gonna be at that point in this scenario
It's gonna be one to one
The base of the rubber match on who wins because our house they beat organ and the
In the big 10 championship
but I mean
I just think I mean go ahead. We forget we forget that Ohio State went into odds and and had a chance to win

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So I think just neutral field
Um, depending on where I think I don't trust ron dey more than anything
You think will Howard could go out there and tear up an Ole Miss defense
I also don't think that I was good for that. I don't I don't I think
I think that game is gonna be like the pin state game

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Old miss is I just don't think will Howard that guy
Ole miss is weird though where they do have tendencies to have those bad defensive games
Like if you're betting on that I could see it, but like if they play like they did against Georgia, no chance
I mean if they play like they did against Georgia
I'm sorry. I think uh like
Then there's no team in college football that beats trust me. I went through

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Pete Golding at Alabama. I would not get your hopes up for that to be like that every game. I mean, yeah, like
I'm looking at this Ohio State gauntlet
They would have to go through and in a playoff
And having to start off with old
Go play Oregon then play Alabama. There's no way they went all three of those if they do

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If they did very deserving to be a national championship winner
But I just that that schedule is almost that's harder than the the Georgia schedule the last three weeks four weeks
That's a god. I mean that's what it's supposed to be. I want to point out
I want to point out real quick. We haven't ever we haven't really talked about it
But this is a good example the best seed in the playoff is a five seed

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We hadn't really like said that out loud on here yet
like
Honestly, if you win if you win your conference, you're kind of getting screwed
to be to be honest
Like I agree
The five seeds get the easy route. It's not even close. You get the you get the bi-week. So I mean

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Yeah, that's a good pair. But at the five seed, you're right
Whereas you get it's probably going to be either the big 12 or ACC championship winner
Which are are going to be sub par because you are going to either have Oregon. I would say are you
Uh, like Georgia or Notre Dame in those that five spots. So I mean if you're the four

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Ozy state could even be the four. Yeah, see that I don't if that happens then
The the college football playoff is just washed for me
But yeah, if you're if you're at the four seed, you're gonna have an absolute you're gonna get the bi-week
But you're gonna get an absolute

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Titan of a team
First time first first round. Yeah
Like Brandon how we feel about Indiana making it to the to the final four. No, that's perfect. That's where I
It's perfect. If that's the route they get I see it
But huge Indiana like believer right now this this week's gonna tell us a lot this upcoming week

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They're covering
I agree. Simple as that. I agree. Good teams win. Great teams. I don't care if they cover there if they lose this game
They're out. They're way less chaos. They're just not they're not
What what wins do they have if they covering is still losing by like two touchdowns, isn't it?
Yes

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Go to DT
Indiana's not losing a Notre Dame if they lose to a house state. They're out. I actually think Notre Dame
I think Indiana loses to both Notre Dame and Miami
I mean, I mean, I mean you can you can say this about like all I'm just asking who
I genuinely do not know probably either Michigan or either Michigan or Washington

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That's why they got to play Ohio State this week
And then who they play next week
I
I think they're gonna lose to Georgia Tech
I think they're gonna lose to Georgia Tech
I mean
I mean
Who's that right now? I I don't know

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Um, but yeah genuinely
You cannot leave an 11-1 team out
With how would like who you gonna put in over who you gonna put in over?
My argument is you can't leave a one-loss team out, but I don't see them beating like a no
I don't see them beating anybody but
A Boise State or a Penn State first round

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A two-loss SEC gets in over one-loss Indiana just because of straight the schedule
I mean in your argument Texas should be out. Oh, yeah, I hate with two losses
What'd you say?
in like in like
If Texas has two losses, who if they beat?

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No, I get that but we're talking like we're in the committee's eyes like if Texas makes the SEC championship
But when or lose they're in we've already seen we've already seen in the committee's eyes
Indiana hasn't played anyone and they're number five in the country. They lose one game. What do they drop down to 10?
They lose they lose one game to the number two team in the country. They drop down to 10. They're not going to drop all the way out

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I just think personally still think it depends on the manner of the loss
Like I mean, yes, obviously
Ohio State beats them out two touchdowns. What if it's 49 to seven?
Then yeah, yeah, they're out
But it's it's not going to be that
If I'll give you this will if it's like a two-point game
I understand but if if they beat them by two touchdowns or more it's it's done

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Last week you were saying if it's a two-point game Indiana is still done
Well, things have unfolded. What if if Indiana loses is faulted
If if Indiana loses to Ohio State
And would could you
Would you say Tennessee should be more deserving than Indiana to get in? Yes

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I think so too and I'm more of a I'm more of a
Because in this bracket and you'll see a little bit later Tennessee would have been a sec champion
And this already has four sec teams in
Which is crazy, but I think that's how many get in I think I think five should get in
I think five should get in
I also think I have Indiana in my bracket too

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Next time we do this
Everything's going to be different. You know, I might be a huge Indiana fan next time. I don't know but as of right now
I think two lost Tennessee gets in
What did Indiana ever do to you? They just they just went in
I think it started with you just being really really high on them and then I look at their schedule
So you just want to see my downfall

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I just want to see my downfall. It's all yeah, you just want to see my downfall. It's what it sounds like
Sounds like fighting words
Yeah, it didn't happen with Miami. So I had to go to yours next Nate and we'll just absolutely just rip rip monopart
Just dump on it
Because Brandon already basically is on my side of this argument. So he'll at least agree with me on that one

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I mean, I'm just a fan of the sec like
You can't sit here and tell me that
there's not
Six better teams than the the top six in the sec right now
This is Nate
Yeah, correct
Okay, see this is this is more I would say realistic

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And I'll just get the reason and I am biased obviously from Alabama
But I think we can mostly agree the reason I have them going all the ways with a healthy milrow
Obviously, but right now they are one of these scariest teams in football the way they've been playing
Um, if they if their defense keeps up and the worst stays healthy, that's why I have them moving forward like they are

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I mean, yeah, why why you why you you were shitting on my bracket? I had Alabama the national championship
You should like that
No, no, I agree great job there will great job great job
Yeah, I'm a bad you got Georgia losing Ohio State. You
Got too high you guys are too high on Ohio State

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I think no, but I have y'all beating Tennessee like like like we said it is a gauntlet
I think Georgia or I think Carson Beck is going to struggle a little bit more going back to back weeks with that
I think you're going to beat Tennessee pretty good lose Ohio State
I mean, we're I'm high on Ohio State because they lost to

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Who's been the best team in the country by one like I said?
if Ohio State goes out there and
You know drops an egg on indiana then I will
I'll think Ohio State sucks. So
As of right now though, this is just fair what I think yeah
Like I can't believe you sold out and put Boise stayed at four. See like that's just a way so fine

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Okay, but I get it from from our from that's a buy we
From our eyes. I 100% understand it is but
When we're looking at the playoff itself, it's the four high strength champions
Colorado, I think is going to be and if they win the big 12 with their two losses
I think they'll be behind Boise State

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If we said obviously there's not
There's not a huge disparity between
Boise State and the big 12 winner anyways, so it's like and neither one is going to win whatever matchup they get
Like so to me, I'm a go to put them at 12 put them at four. That's the same thing's gonna happen
No, yeah, it's the same thing. Basically you had will it's just their

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flipped
Yeah
And I mean they're playing the same exact team and honestly, I think Colorado and Boise State get lost by
double digits
to to to Oregon so
Yeah, so honestly to any team in the in the playoff and I'm and y'all kind of already know one thing
I don't mind this one

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I think Alabama beats Texas
Or I would get into the a and m argument if they beat Texas, but I don't want to go there
If Texas beats a and m it makes it to sec championship, which I think is um
Probably gonna happen
I think
Ole Miss get getting that break when Texas don't

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Will be huge and I think that will not even be a close game personal opinion
See, I would have I would have Notre Dame smoking Penn State
Um, no because it'd be a home game for Penn State and I'm telling you I think fit like
Penn State themselves it being a not home game is that big of a difference, especially Notre Dame like
Penn State would be the best game

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First game that'd be the best team they've played since Texas a and m first game of the year
They went into Texas a and m stadium and won
Yes, they'd probably do a wide out which is just different
Which I mean I I think I I don't agree with Brandon to the point where the whole below Penn State out
But I legitimately think Notre Dame can win that game
Um, I think Notre Dame deserves a little bit more credit

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The only reason I can't is that you're not gonna like my bracket. Yeah. Yeah. I was gonna say
The reason I got Notre Dame at 11
The reason I got Notre Dame at 11
The reason I got Notre Dame at 11 is because they are not in a conference
And I think that will hurt them a little bit and when it comes to strength the schedules and stuff
If you look at Ole Miss, Georgia, Tennessee, and then even Texas those four teams are such a cluster in the sec right now

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It's kind of hard to separate them
And I just personally think those four are still better than Notre Dame and that's why they're ranked ahead
I
Mean it'll be tough. I don't disagree with you. They should be ranked ahead. I'm just saying I think
Notre Dame's better team like I in this bracket. I would see Notre Dame going all the way up to play Alabama in the semifinal

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That's not a great that's not a great matchup for Notre Dame. So I hope they don't
I mean, yeah, like Alabama would Alabama would molly walk Notre Dame
But I can definitely see Notre Dame beating Penn State and SMU. I'm not even huge on like listen
I've been I've been saying this for years even when we work together

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Um, to me James Franklin's a fraud in big games and I'll but at the end of the day, I still think
Penn State and Notre Dame low scoring game Penn State can just squeak buff
And then the SMU game I'm just throwing a hell Mary there and praying Penn State can win that game
I'll be honest like that's
I love me some drew aller. So anytime anyone's backing them. I'm all for

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I I think drew aller is actually a good quarterback. It's just you know in this Ohio State game. He was very
hindered he could barely move
Which I mean do they win that game with with him?
Fully healthy. We never know
But um, I think a fully healthy drew aller is is a difference maker for Penn State
Yeah, I think my biggest question to y'all is and I was just thinking about this. I don't know if it's even like

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Possible like do you think Colorado could go into Eugene in this situation and compete with Oregon?
Possibly win that game and upset
No, no
What about neutral field not for us? No. No
Quarterfinals are still no no. No. No. Just gears
No, I will win by three touches. I I I do think um, I do think

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Just because we know Colorado's defense. I think the first couple quarters would be very interesting
And then the second half would just depend on if they can hold up or not
The first quarter it'd be 14 to
3 14 to 7 still somewhat close and then by halftime it'd be 28 10 28 3
Yeah, I was just curious and then if y'all also notice I got Tennessee going back to Athens that would be

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big game
Big game, especially that close that close to each other just like uh kip said. Um, he also
thinks
That smu can score Nate better watch out for him. They can play
Man, thank goodness. There's a voice of reason around here like y'all there's been no smu respect

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The ACC just sucks. I really respect smu the only thing and I guess you you can go back to india and I guess well
The only reason I got penn state over smu like that is who is smu played in comparison yet this far or this year
That that's the
Yes
That's the only reason um has it to say they could be penn state right now

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I mean, I agree with you. I think penn's the wins that game
Because smu the acc sucks. So I can't it's like it's like me arguing with you will like indiana beat washton whoopee do
Like that means they can go beat a house day like that exactly. Yeah, exactly. No, I'm not predicting that

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All right, go to the next one
Let's go to shoot. I thought mom was crazy just wait
And we'll go to cams next
I took some risks on mine
I played it very safe

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Yeah, there's cams
I always get the
I literally x amount all over the stream as well
There's no no my first I love it. You know my first question
Um, I see smu in at three. How's Miami getting in?

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Uh, so Notre Dame loses the second game
Okay
And then it becomes it's at that point it is between indiana and miami and will knows that I
Like I kind of flip flopped on this. I went back and forth
I think there is equal chance that indiana gets in as miami gets in they said they would not punish

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Conference championship losers. So that is why I have miami in at 11, but I had indiana there first
I will full disposer. I had them in there first and I flip flopped it could either easy
They'll want their so so you got a
So you got a and m in at number eight is a three loss
No, two, yeah, they beat texas

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But they already had they very lost too. So they they lose the bamboon sc championship, but cam already said that
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, they're not gonna punish. They're not gonna punish conference championship losers
Yeah, that's what they said. Whether they do that. I didn't do that. Do that is the question
I I know where sec bias here, whatever, but the runner up in the sec still is

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Legit like eight. I mean could go play in any other conference
Just swap the four personal opinion, whatever who?
I said the runner up in the sec
um championship could go play in any conference and potentially swap the four with the upper half that division
The big ten. Maybe maybe you flip flopped texas in texas a and m

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Maybe texas a and m gets punished more and goes to ten and texas a and m goes to eight
I just yeah, i'm going off what they said they said they're not gonna punish those guys
And so that would be not punishing them actually it kind of would because then they have to play georgia
Yes, but they get but i mean they get the home game they get the home game
They get the home game and in in the committee's eyes omis beat georgia and they'd be playing omis at ten and technically like if if

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If a and m is you can't really like if a and m just beat texas you can't really put them below texas
They just beat them. So just basically like the committee's eyes
That's my reason committee is not good though. So we're just guessing here. I mean, I'll be freaking ad's and all that so
so you would have

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texas no
You'd have no derdame losing to usc last game of the year
That's correct or potentially army, but I don't think they lose to army. They lose to usc
They choke in the last week of the season
All right
Dude, I think

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I think even with the loss to northern illinois a one-loss noted aim should be just considered to be left out
Yes, but they also is a bad loss that is a bad loss
I mean just mean to beat they beat a and m. They've they would have mollywop
They solid maybe for the last six weeks. Yeah. Yeah, that's a thing. They would have beat army

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So yeah, I think I think I think no derdame. They have to lose and then
Going to uh, if they went out there in for sure
Say an Ole Miss lost to kentucky. I mean, yes
But you can't leave a ten and two team out that that's Georgia
Georgia like that. If they lose. Yeah, they're out, but you're not going to leave Ole Miss out

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Listen, if Ole Miss
I think if you leave
If they if they're left out, I think that's bad for college football
That is Ole Miss is clearly one of the most dangerous teams in college football
Yeah, I mean like if
Like if you leave Ole Miss out, you technically like you basically need to leave Georgia

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Then you need to leave Tennessee out then like it's like it just opens up and then it just opens up a can of worms
That can't happen. Yeah, like it's still possibility
Like almost has a what top five quarterback in in the country
They probably have a top five defense in the country like the run game may not be great, but

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They've shown that they can that they have any lead defense that can cause problems to anyone
Yeah, they lost a game to
Kentucky at home lost LSU which may not look that great now, but LSU's still a solid team. So I
I legitimately think that
Good wins get you in as well. Now the committee has shown that they'd rather

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I've unblemished records so no bad losses than good wins, but I still think like Ole Miss has to get in
Texas plays Kentucky this week, right?
Yeah, is it home or away? I think it's at Kentucky. No, uh,
I think it's at Texas. I I'm not predicting anything, but this is one of those games Kentucky thrives for

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Like they're gonna show up no question. They can they can create chaos if they pulled us off. Yeah
This is a game they would show up for 100 and it didn't make the other law
I could have make old missus loss not look as bad
No one has any gripes with Arizona State getting in in the 12th seat. Um, so

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They're hot. So you just
I guess you're predicting Arizona State goes through and wins the big 12. I mean
I mean, I see they went out the big 12s in a position where they're a couple upsets away from getting nobody in
I mean one's got to get in like one has to get in someone has to get in because they're the basically the the rule is five

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Conference championships have to get in and or the highest ranked five conference champions
And I mean unless two lane comes out of nowhere and there's the
That can possibly happen
it's
I like even if
Legitimately people in the country think two lane is better than Arizona State. I don't think the committee lets that happen

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No, I mean, I agree but big 12 the weather playing right now could easily make that a scenario
Unless like what's like
Arizona like it maybe like I say like a nine and three or an eight and 14 gets in and and just ends up winning
Then that would be something and then then we'd actually legitimately have to have a conversation of those two lane deserve to get in

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Attenement to I think a 10 and 2 to lane gets in over a three loss big 12 champion
Depends depend depends, but I don't know. I think it's I think it's really possible three loss
Probably not four. Yes
All right, let's do the last one

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No
The best of the master of of for something crazy master of chaos the best one. Is it branded?
Yeah
Yes, sir

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Okay, dude, there's why is this thing so dull?
What do you mean it's like no bright colors. He stayed at seven just dull
Yeah, boys. It's that's how does that happen? Yeah real quick. Can you explain that to me? All right, so
Organs they're at the one seat because they're gonna be the big 10 winner

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I have Ohio State losing the big 10
Um, and they still get in but they get all the way dropped down to uh, nine
um
Then we have
Alabama no, where we go. Yeah, Alabama the sec winner
Texas is a loser. They get bumped out of there because they're trashed. They have zero strength of schedule anytime they play a good team

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They get slaughtered
um, and then we have
SMU ACC champion winner you just got to put them at two because
Alabama does have two losses that would put SMU at one loss
I think that they could make a statement in the next few games and then the ACC championship to let them get that two slot

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and then you got
Colorado at four winning the big 12
I mean you got to put them at four after winning the big 12 for sure
Especially if it's against like a Arizona State or a byu
um
And then you got Boise State. They don't really belong in this bracket at all
They have they're they're just there because they have to be there. You know, they almost beat Oregon

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And they're a top 12 to you
Wisconsin almost beat Oregon too and look where Wisconsin's at Boise State can be Colorado. I think
We could do that. We could say so and so almost beat so and so all I'm south carolina almost beat Alabama
So I'm gonna almost be Georgia. Yeah
So

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Notre Dame they're gonna be 11 and one because they're gonna smack the crap out of USC
So you got to put them at five because they don't play a conference championship game
But they are still a top five team in the country
so
That just means
You know Penn State sneaks in because they're not going to play in the conference championship

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Uh, Miami sneaks in because they're not going to play in the conference championship
um, and then
And fortunately Ohio State sneaks in too because I don't even yeah, they're the loser of the big 10
Championship game. I am in my opinion. So you just kind of throw Boise State in there somewhere
They don't belong anywhere near the top five

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But since their record is is going to be decent because they play just like
Division two teams all year. Then, you know, we got to throw them in this bracket
Georgia is not going to play in the sec championship unfortunately
But you got to throw Texas out of there because Texas two losses are going to come from

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Georgia who absolutely destroyed them and if Georgia is not going to be in the top five
Then where where are we going to put Texas?
Who who who's Texas showing that they're better than in this bracket? Indiana?
Cap they haven't shown that they're better
Uh

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Yeah, they have a lady so who are Texas's good wins?
No, I'm not I'm not disagreeing with you there
So they have zero because you guys talk about the good wins
They have a good they have zero good wins and they have a so you're gonna have fat too bad losses because they're gonna be mad at my Alabama
After after um, Indiana loses to Ohio State
It's gonna be the same scenario except Texas just ran into two bustles

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well, I mean
Indiana still could get in if they lose to Ohio State
Depending on the school. Yeah, and they will yeah, and then you have old miss
So they're gonna be Notre Dame
Because they're just better. They're gonna be colorado because they're just better
They're gonna be organ because they're just better
And then they're gonna be Georgia

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Because they already did
I think I think my biggest question is
There's no Tennessee. There's obviously you said Texas no a and m
Why why does a and m why should a and m get in they're gonna lose they're gonna lose to Texas
They shouldn't even be in the sec championship like I don't have to know their game already
Like Texas loses like cam said if a and m beats Texas and then loses to bema and it's not a blowout

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I think a and m gets in yeah, but in this a and m's probably not gonna beat Texas
Yeah, in this scenario a and m loses to Texas. No, that's why they're out
but I mean, yeah if they win and they I think they should be in but uh if
If a and m's not beating Texas so a two loss Miami gets in over a two loss Texas
And realistically beating Texas isn't a good win

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like
I wouldn't consider that like a
Hey, this is a maker break. Texas is not a great football team
Miami gets in because they want their man's
Yeah, so I'm hence cam warden. How does it that's almost a how's a two loss Miami get in over a two loss, Texas cam ward
Yeah, they want him on the bright stage name absolutely helps

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I think the committee wants Miami in because of cam ward
I mean, I have Miami losing in the country now. I also have Texas in I don't have Texas being out
I have Miami losing in the conference championship
They cc so yeah, they tend to not punish them. Yeah, so they said they're gonna get in
Like I don't want to make a statement on this because I'm biased so I was cam and will because I already see what you did

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Brandon, do you think a one-loss smu is ranked above gamma?
If they're both conference champs, I think they're they would be ranked above them
But I still would think Alabama's a better team
I can see it because I mean they did that thing where it was like uh
Where like I think was like two three years ago when Bryce young beat georgian in the championship where they put Alabama over michigan

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The one-loss team like like Nate like the committee like I can see it the committee talks all this crap about strength of schedule
Strength of record this and that
But they still have they've never done. They still have indiana way ahead of like a georgia
And we both know no georgia would georgia would slap 21 21 point spread on indiana

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cap
dude
God, I'm not gonna I'm I'm done arguing indiana in case I win this weekend this bracket this bracket to me. I think
securely puts in aside from Boise State because
For whatever reason they have to be in there. This puts in the most legitimate

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top 12 teams
in college football in the bracket
So neutral field does Tennessee win any of those first round games?
Or sorry to be a home game. Yeah, but there's nowhere to put them because we got to put Boise State in the bracket
I
could see Tennessee beating Penn State and indiana

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and
potentially like an Ohio State
See that's yeah, but there's just nowhere to put them
I think that just goes to my whole thing of indiana with one losses out, but I mean you can put them in over Miami
So as yeah as a two well then that goes back to punishment
Yeah
I

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I
I genuinely wonder if they like because they I mean they they've said that they're not gonna punish them
I do wonder if they do but they've also said they care about, you know, like Brandon said strength of schedule
and
They've they've they've repeatedly shown that they care about
Your record being unblemished then good wins

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I think they will punish
They will punish big 12 acc whoever else they I just don't think they'll punish the big 10 sec and I hate it's like that, but
You know, that's deserve those are the two best I mean they make their money off use
Hey, Tennessee could lose the Vanderbilt and then they're out of the conversation completely

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That would be something that would make us look a little better
Or worse. All right. We are we are close on time
So we need to move on to our week 13 preview
Let's do it
All right, Brandon introduced the games of the week for week 13
Games of the week. I think this is the first week on hold the line sports betting college football podcast

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That we do not have an sec game
let alone an sec team
in the games of the week, so
We might be biased around here
But we do like to spread the love and these games are without a doubt the most
highly
Looked forward to games a week late
Yeah, this is like the Arizona state represented twice in a row. Yeah, this is like the play a cupcake team before you play your rival, but

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These these games of the week are not that at all. We're gonna start out
Like cam said, we're gonna be yu at Arizona state
Arizona state is a three-point favorite. The over under in that game is 48 and a half
Very excited for that because I think
BYU is starting to get exposed a little bit
Uh, and Arizona is more so trending up in every category. They're exciting team the watch like we talked about earlier

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Um, so pretty interesting line there. I I kind of like it where it is right now
It's it kind of makes things tough good for conversation
Um, we will move to army at notar dan. This is gonna tell us a lot about
These on the fringe teams like, you know, we like to call them
Like say your army your boys. You stay here

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Too laying guys like that they play at notar dan notar dan is um
As I expected to be a 14 and a half point favorite over under in that game is 44 and a half
Pretty low I would say for for a notar dan game
Um, but army does tend to run the ball. That's all they really do
so

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Might not be a lot of points scored there and then we move it over to
um, what I would say on this podcast based off what our brackets just showed is
The biggest game of the week by far. It is ohio state
Uh, versus indiana that game is at ohio state ohio state jumps out with a 13 and a half point spread

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And the over under there is 51 and a half
Let's go ahead and start with
BYU at arizona state then we'll move on to army notar dan and finish off with indiana at ohio state
Nathan give us your thoughts on byu in arizona state. So I got a lot of scrabble on the paper over here

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So sorry if I get a little all over the place
um
But just look at how these two
Yeah, it's worse than scribble. So
Yes, I'm gathering
So um, I think this is going to be
A little bit different of a game than people were probably looking at. I think it's gonna be one in the trenches

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Um, I think this game is gonna be one upfront
so
arizona's defense has been
Really really good over the past few weeks, you know, since they've been on the streak
Their run defense is what I think could potentially win them this game. Um, all they
I think if they can stop byu
From getting those big gains on the yard kind of stopping them two three yard pickups and force

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Was it reds reds laugh is that he says name? I think byu's board back. Yeah force reds laugh to make the plays down the field
Put pressure on him
force him to make those mistakes
Because I think if you turn byu into a one-dimensional team, that's where they're going to struggle and we kind of saw that this past week
um

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on the other side so
Byu their offense this second half of the season as we've seen in the past few games their scoring has went down
They're still averaged over 30 a game. That's just based off their first six seven. They've played
um
Arizona state's offense
I mean it's on fire right now
Scataboo skate scataboo how we say it dudes an absolute animal

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Running up and down that field. Um, they got good qb play right now
so and the biggest thing
when it comes to the offensive side of Arizona state is
You've got to run the ball. You've got to
Set up for the pass later on in the game byu averages almost five yards per carry

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Or sorry gives up almost five yards per carry
And I think scataboo is going to be able to destroy that number
Um, as long as he's healthy and good to go this game
But if Arizona state can get them to close the box and then start getting matchups down on the field
Matchups down outside the numbers
That's where they're going to be productive in this game. So I'm taking Arizona state minus two and a half

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Yep, so
tailing I'm also taking Arizona state minus two and a half
For two reasons one. I have them in my college football playoff
They cannot lose this game if that's to come to fruition. So that's just need base. They have to win this
I think Arizona state is more multi-dimensional and what they can do offensively than byu is
I think if if you stop a part of like if you stop byu's run game, they're going to have a difficult time scoring on offense

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like you said
um
even if so
byu's defense they're very good against the pass
um
But Arizona state can do both they can win they've proven the last three weeks four weeks ish
They can win both ways through levitt's arm or scat about running
They have a multi-dimensional approach to how they run the offense. So even if they are limited in the air

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I think the game goes to
They're by the third fourth quarter byu's defense is broken down because they've been battered over and over again with the run
Yeah, I just think with what they can do offensively the advantage goes to Arizona state and they win this game by at least
Two and a half points. Yeah, also to mention Arizona state home game not, you know, they're in a playoff race

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going to be insane
Yeah, I think uh
I'm I'm going to go with
byu money line
plus money for a top 10 team
um
And that's that's will's favorite favorite sentence
And it works. I'm plus on the year
Um, yeah, I am doing that because I'm just backing the best unit on the field out of

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byu's offense
byu's defense
Arizona state's offense Arizona state's defense. What's the best unit on the field? It's byu's defense byu's defense statistically
So I'm backing the best unit. I'm back in the best unit on the field and going byu money line
All valid points
All valid points

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I think
I think just you know looking at this game. I I just think Arizona state is just a hotter team
like
Ride the hot hand, you know what I'm saying byu
They their offense just does not look good. Yeah, they're just kind of on the down slope
I like that. It's you know, we can get it at two and a half

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um
I think that's free
Give me Arizona state two and a half
And it actually um, oh, I like it. It would not surprise me if by saturday, Arizona state is plus money
Because the number is already dropping
It at one point two though like before I think before this week byu was favored

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So it's like it's gone so much. It was plus money for Arizona state minus three earlier. Yeah
I mean really it's a pick-up like you give it's it's minus three. It's it's really like minus half
It just you give home field advantage to whoever it is. So it it really is a pick-up right now

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I could see it trending back towards byu because it is very it's very even matchup
Let's move forward. Go ahead
No, I was just gonna say because you were talking about the even matchup
That's 150 something for the money line fairs on the state. It's just ridiculous
Yeah, let's go army noter dame. We'll wrap up with indiana, Ohio state army noter dame

(01:38:33):
Will what do you have for this one?
I have
And i'm going with uh, noter dame minus 14
I think
I mean, we already saw what noter dame did in avi
Army is a better team. Yes, but we've seen it with the little guy

(01:38:54):
And I love I'm for the troops army's got a whole country behind them
I'm rooting for army, but my wallet's not going to be rooting for army
It's it's noter dame minus 14. I think they're hitting their stride
I think they're legitimately a top 10 team in the country and they're I mean
Noter dame knows if they lose a game

(01:39:14):
They're done
But if they went out they're in so I think that I think they're going to be coming to play
Every week weekend and week out and I think they're going to win by and 14's got push potential
Um, I didn't like 14 and a half
Um, so bought it down to 14th

(01:39:35):
I think uh
I mean I get it
Uh, noter dame has been smoking
Everyone that they have been playing over the last like seven or eight weeks
So I get it. There's no reason to think why they wouldn't smoke someone else, especially if it's a g5
however
I uh, I think
I think army is legitimately talented. I didn't believe in navy

(01:39:58):
I think army is legitimately talented
And I also think that they run a style of offense that will have the ability to somewhat limit
time of possession
For noter dame now when noter dame has the ball
They're going to score. I I don't think I don't think army's going to stop them from scoring
But I think if army is able to limit time of possession

(01:40:20):
I think they can keep it within two scores and I think it would be
It's still going to be like a 10 point win for noter dame
I don't have army winning by any stretch of the imagination
But I think the way that they run their offense can it the problem with navy
Who has like somewhat of a similar style is they didn't take care of the ball. They they may just like five turnovers all in fumbles

(01:40:42):
So and then that's what made that score get out of hand
I feel like if army takes care of the ball and doesn't have those turnovers
They're going to sustain some drives and keep the game close. So for that reason, I'm going to have army plus 14 and a half
Yeah, um, so I think army is going to be able to score more than navy kind like you already said

(01:41:03):
um
I mean, yeah, I only scored six
But the other game I think is just gonna score one time really
I think Notre Dame's gonna be a little too much now if army went and pulled this upset. It would not be the craziest thing I've ever seen
But I do think um, like I said a lot the last game
It's gonna be a little bit higher score than people think Notre Dame could possibly score

(01:41:25):
30 plus of this himself. So I'm gonna take that over 44 and a half
I think that's really low for this for this game
Yeah, I think I actually like that. I like that play
I think I'm with will on this one. I think
You know, America will be rooting for army to create chaos

(01:41:46):
And obviously it's army. I'm rooting for them groups
But I mean Notre Dame is just way too athletic. They're too fast. They have way better skill guys
They're too big. They're too strong
It's it's Notre Dame minus 14 and a half. I mean
I think army might be able to keep this close first second quarter potentially and then after that

(01:42:11):
It's just gonna be a lot of explosive plays. I see I see this one getting out of hand a little bit
Um, we're allowing will to go with minus 14 so you can go with minus 14 as well. You don't have to buy up
There push potential
Yep
Anything else on this one

(01:42:32):
Nah, no
It's another opportunity for me to catch up
We all got something different here and I'm buying myself on rooting for army
Indiana at Ohio State
Uh, I mean will this is your conference so you can go again here if you want to go first
Yep, um
We all know where I'm going with this. I don't have to say it

(01:42:55):
um
Indiana
Is a very potent offense as as people would say they were to throw the ball well Curtis Rourke has looked amazing
In an Indiana uniform
And if we've seen Ohio State's defense get punished it's through the air
That's what Indiana's bread and butter is I

(01:43:17):
legitimately think that
Indiana is going to be able to
Going to be able to score at least like 17 21 and Indiana's defense is good enough to hold
uh
Ohio State plus
14 is a lot of points two scores
Top five team at two scores as cam knows I would like to say I'm going to take it every time

(01:43:40):
Plus, it's my my baby my golden my golden child indiana
I was high on them coming into the air and I'm still high on them now best team in the country
Indiana mountain um can uh indiana's red plus 14
Plus 14. Yeah, you need it for the narrative. I get it
um
So this is this is the proof-it game for indiana. This is it like this is

(01:44:05):
I am a little bit more of a naysayer
Because I haven't seen them
I haven't seen them with a impressive win the wins are impressive because they're blowing teams out for the most part
But they haven't had that matchup where it's like. Oh, they just showed up against like a legitimate top 10 team and took care of business
On the other on the other side, oh, hi, oh state is they actually need this game

(01:44:27):
Like this is this is a vital game for for them in playoff hope. So I would argue they
Need it equally and if they need it equally I go with the better team
So I don't think indiana pulls the upset
I think this game
The game is going to be somewhat close
I think

(01:44:48):
Indiana can limit ohio states offense to some degree
And I also think indiana is going to have trouble scoring the football against ohio states defense to a degree
52 is fairly high in my mind. I'm going to take the under 52. I think we're going to get like a

(01:45:08):
28 17 kind of game here
So I'm going to go under that's a cover
It's a cover
That's a cover. That's a cover on the same team
All right, I've been a big indiana haters so I'll go ahead
Um now I would love nothing more than the see ohio states suck. Y'all know my feelings about them around day

(01:45:32):
um
But they're gonna win this game
so um
Kind of like cam said I just don't think indiana has really been tested yet. So it's kind of hard to judge how good they really are
Um ohio states still throwing out a good offense throwing out a good defense. We've seen them play good competition on what they can do
so um
Give me the over

(01:45:54):
Okay, going over 52. Oh, you're gonna take the over
Okay
Not on the same team
I do think um indiana is going to be able to score
Um, I'm not I don't think about how the state's going to be able to limit them too much
But I also think ohio states can be able to drive in school in indiana. Um, will howard

(01:46:14):
He's really performing these big games. Um, even though i'm not a huge fan of him. He is a good quarterback
So I think it is going to be a little harsh for him
Yeah, I I'm I think i'm more so
Like on you guys's team right here
Whereas I think indiana is just gonna come out and play this game with a ton of heart
I I think you know, we we always sit here and talk about

(01:46:38):
Which teams need it more which teams?
um are going to show up for this game or not and
I think indiana as a team
I feel like they they feel a lot of people like us kind of talking about how they haven't played anybody
How they're they're going to have to prove themselves
Uh and stuff like that and and I think this is their

(01:47:00):
The biggest opportunity they're going to get this season to show that and
That's not saying i'm taking indiana money line
but
At 13 and a half
That's a lot of points
so
I think the safe bet is definitely indiana plus 13 and a half
And I think it's more than doable because I do see a path where they could potentially win this football game. So

(01:47:26):
um
Suck said it's at ohio state. I wish it was at indiana, but
I'm definitely going with the safe route going plus 13 and a half is I just this indian team's too good
That they're they're ready to prove themselves and I think on the flip side ohio state
um
I think I don't feel like they need this game as much. I just don't like something about this is this is more so indiana's year

(01:47:51):
If indiana wins this game 30 to nothing. I'll gladly lose my money
Same I mean, yeah, technically ohio state honestly doesn't really need this game
I think because there they'll be they'll have two losses, but then they'll miss the big 10 championship. So they'll be in
We definitely need to at some point have a segment on

(01:48:13):
which teams either
Like would benefit from not going to the to the conference championship which teams would benefit from going to your conference championship
like
Any who knows that does not benefit to going right?
Like like for example like Alabama easily
Alabama could easily benefit from going to the conference championship and winning it right

(01:48:37):
um, because I mean they're sitting there at two losses just like
Six other sec teams potentially. So I think any team in the sec is kind of gunning
To go to the conference championship and win it
Whereas like, you know like ohio state
They they might not need to go to their
conference championship
And they could they could easily set themselves up with like a Boise state matchup or something like that or they're more comfortable

(01:49:06):
Yep
Toilet bowl. All right running low on time
Let's
Yep, let's go toilet bowl. We probably aren't going to spend a ton of time here because I think we're all probably going to be on the same page
Um, Charleston southern at florida state a couple of one-win teams
Going at it

(01:49:26):
Uh, Charleston southern if you're unfamiliar as an fcs team. I don't know what conference they play in
Florida state. I'm sure you guys have heard of a big south. I believe in
FBS football
Might even be worse in canis-all state
Okay, okay, uh
FSU massive minus 33 and a half point favorites

(01:49:50):
I 33 fell I'll go first fellas 33 and a half is a lot for a team that hasn't scored that many points this entire year
So all of a sudden we're going to believe that not only do they stop Charleston southern from scoring entirely
But they score more points than they've ever scored in a game in this calendar year
I am going to go ahead and take the Charleston southern cover plus 33 and a half and continue my hot streak

(01:50:18):
I think I'm going to take the same exact thing um because
Little stat here for you
FSU has not covered in the last six home games against the non-FBS team
They just haven't done it and they're they're the home favorite against a non-FBS team
It's the seventh seven in a row going for seven more ammunition lucky number seven

(01:50:41):
Yeah
Charleston southern plus 33 and a half
Uh, Nate brandon
Yeah, um, is this game in bovada? No
Okay, because I was uh, no we had to go on action and find the and find the spread

(01:51:01):
I was going because I was considering taking for to stay under on points
but um
Since I don't know what that is give me Charleston southern and cover
Yeah, I mean, okay, I mean the spread I had a feeling would be on the same way
yeah
spreads 33 33 and a half. Yeah
And the Florida state has scored more than 21 points all season. So

(01:51:24):
Give me Charleston southern and cover. Why not?
I had a feeling would be on the same page there. Let's go individual plays real quick. We have nine minutes
Um, Nate start with you in the big 12. What are your three plays?
Yes, let me pull them up. I'll be really quick here. Um
So I'm going to go back with the buffs against kansas

(01:51:46):
Um, kansas is on a little streak right now, but Colorado. I think it's just a much better football team
This is actually my plus money play the week. I bought it up to minus three and a half
Um, I think they're just gonna be a little too much for kansas by the end of the game
Um, my next game is texas tech versus oklahoma state
Oklahoma state is a very bad football team texas tech does still have a good offense and they're able to play

(01:52:10):
Sort of better defense than oklahoma state. So give me texas tech minus three and a half
Um, I'm gonna take that there and then move on down to
Cincinnati versus k state. Cincinnati is shown that they can hang in some of these games
K state is on their downfall. Cincinnati can still score and play decent defense. So give me that a plus eight and a half

(01:52:32):
Awesome nice very efficient will big 10
Iowa minus six and a half is my lock of the week versus Maryland. Maryland is not a good football team
Um, and I always got a pretty solid defense. So getting the touchdown here. Yeah, I'm gonna take it
Um, then plus money play of the week
Wisconsin money line is plus 115 versus Nebraska

(01:52:57):
Wisconsin is trending up
I actually genuinely like this play and I I if you want to go for like a lock take the spread
But I think it's two and a half five up to three. It's like minus like 125 at uh
Uh, with spread but if you if you want to, you know, make some money with with your boy, um
Moneyline plus 115

(01:53:20):
Then we go
Penn state minus 11 versus minnesota
Spread's kind of low. I kind of expected to be a lot higher
Um, but yeah, I'm I think I'm getting a top 10 team against minnesota who I mean their defense is solid
But I'm I'm gonna take penn state minus 11 against minnesota. So those are my three

(01:53:43):
Nice, all right, acc
I'm gonna go with the thursday game nc state at georgia tech. I will be tuned into this one
I can't wait to watch this game georgia tech favored at nine and a half
I am going to take nc state to cover at plus 10 the bottom is like minus 120 for that
So I figured that was fair enough
The acc like I said earlier is a ton of the same teams playing each other over and over again

(01:54:06):
There's not a huge disparity in talent
nc state still needs a win to be bold eligible
So this is like a need game for them, especially with how disappointing their season has been
I don't know if they win, but I definitely think they can keep it
Uh within a possession. So plus 10 for nc state. I would say that's my lock probably
Plus uh plus money play north carolina at boston college another team who needs one win and they are bold eligible

(01:54:32):
That would be boston college
Played smu tough on the road lost by only 10 and they were in that game the entire time
I think uh, they have the home field advantage here versus north carolina and they win this game outright
The cover is at plus three and a half, but i'm going to take the money line at plus 145
uh boston college wins this game
Last one the big game stanford at cal it is going to rain

(01:54:56):
Cal loves to throw the ball. They cannot run the ball worth a crap
They are favored by two touchdowns in this game. This might be my lock honestly. They are favored by minus 14
I get it stanford is is not good, but they just beat louisville by three
So anything is possible if it is raining and mendosa can't throw the ball
They are going to struggle on offense because they can't run it worth a crap. So stanford covers plus uh 14

(01:55:19):
Uh, we'll go to brandon for sec and then we'll wrap this thing up
four minutes
So I think this is the most confident. I've been in a my individual picks all year
Uh, first we're gonna start out with alabama always a good sign. Oklahoma. Yep. That always goes good when you're confident

(01:55:40):
alabama at oklahoma
They are 13 and a half point favorites and i'm going to hammer that because oklahoma is an absolutely terrible football team
Um, and they still have no identity. Their defense is bad. Alabama has been trending up in that category of defense
and like we said
milrow is just that guy so

(01:56:01):
um
Plus these are all must win games too for these these sec sec teams that are in the hunt
So you've got to win this game. You got to play good
Can't look ahead. You got to you got to want to know every week. So moving ahead
We're going to texas a and m at alburn. I know alburn's a scary place to play
But their football team itself is not a scary football team to play against

(01:56:24):
Their quarterback is not good
They still have a few frees not a good coach texas a and m
This is a must win football game because they can't have a slip up. They got to play texas next week
Um, so they they have to go into that game
I'm still I think they'd be five and two at that point or excuse me five six and one. Um

(01:56:45):
And they're only minus two and a half favorites
I mean, that's just a field goal against a really really bad alburn team who struggles on offense struggles turning over the ball
And their defense hasn't been good
Uh, to say the less they gave up 14 points to to uo min row last week. So why not?
Then for the spicy one that I'm actually pretty confident about vanderbilt going to lsu going to death valley

(01:57:09):
lsu coming off a bad loss to florida
Vandy they're they're just the grim reaper of the sec
We're taking vandy money line at plus 250
Without a doubt pavia is that guy
lsu their hopes and dreams are crushed
They are no longer in the race way is the point of playing football anymore
When vanderbilt has never been in the race really and they play football hard every week

(01:57:34):
We know this we've seen this I think my lock of the week though would be that texan mp. I had to take a lock
Nice all right, we are almost done brandon real quick tell the people what they need to do
Yep, first of all, thank you to all the guys that and girls who who came and watched the live again

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I think at one point we had close to
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I know that's not that much in the grand scheme of everything you see on twitch with you know
All these people pulling like 50 000 people
But there was a one there was one time when we had zero people watching this yeah, so

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(01:59:02):
Uh for tuning in with us tonight
Very nice that is going to do it. We appreciate everyone who tuned in to the episode. Um,
As always me and will will be back on friday to recap week 11
Uh our plays and then our plays for week 12. The rest of us minus Nate will be back next wednesday

(01:59:23):
Uh have have fun on your vacation Nate. Uh, the rest of us are going to be working
Been a ton of fun. Um, the most fun i've had in college football y'all
Uh, thanks for being a part of it and we will see you next time. See y'all. See you
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