Week 13 Recap & Week 14 Preview

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Hello and welcome back to our final regular season episode of the Hold the Line Sports

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Bedding podcast for the 2024 season.
Some pause for dramatic effect there.
Rivalry week, fellas.
A word I had a lot of trouble with as a youth in elementary school, thinking back to my
rival week with a fellow student, Mary Ashley Tucker, who annually would beat me in academic

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award ceremonies, as well as the Young Authors Fair, where her nonfiction report on Franklin
Delano Roosevelt trumped my science fiction epic about an alien invasion.
Who writes nonfiction for fun?
No one.
It's unfortunate.
Then I think about how our rival we brood and what it became and I look at where she's

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at now and where I'm at now.
She's a successful news anchor and an even more successful life coach.
You can look her up on LinkedIn.
While I am unemployed with the podcast that I host ranging from anywhere from three to
five listeners at any given time and I've got to ask you guys, who's laughing now?

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Who won this rival week?
Us.
Anyways, you'll notice we're down to bandit for the second time this season as Nate is
still in Italy.
Sucks he isn't here.
I would love to ask him about the Alabama, Oklahoma game.
I would love to get his insight on that.

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First off, I just want to say Nate right now for you guys who don't talk to Nate every
day like us, Nate, he's in definitely in that stage of denial where his team has lost
and there is very, very little hope for his team to make a playoff run or anything in

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the postseason era of college football.
He is very much on the, I just don't really care.
I knew it was going to happen this season, that kind of vibe.
You know, deep down inside, he is extremely hurt.
It's a good thing he's in Italy because I know if it were me, I would be losing my mind.
I would not have as much passion as I still do for this season.

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Yeah.
A diehard Alabama fan who was like, he literally was like, they went eight games or nine games.
It's okay.
I kind of saw it.
I'm like, you're not an Alabama fan.
No.
Alabama fan has ever said that before.
You can't lose your hope if you never had it.
Yes, fair enough.
We exceeded expectations.

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Let's press on.
We'll recap the week that was week 13.
Brandon, we're going to go over the games of the week first, if you don't mind.
Yes.
And what a week it was, gentlemen.
We had ups, downs.
We had upsets.
Now we go into rivalry.
Why will we?

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Exactly.
Exactly.
And for the first 19 years of my life, I couldn't say it.
I just want to say that from a betting perspective this week, very, very tough.
I'm sure there was a lot of big losers out there.
Yeah.
But with all the upset, that also leaves room for some big winners.

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So we're going to start it off.
I think all of us might have won on this.
I can't remember.
I know me, I think Will and Nate at least, I think, Cam, you might have had the other
one, but took Notre Dame versus Army.
I did not.
I know I had Notre Dame minus 14 and a half.
Notre Dame comes out with a big victory over an undefeated Army team, who some thought

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may be able to compete with the big boys that they were undefeated.
They were, they're a well coached team.
They're still a good football team, but there's levels to this NCAA division one college football.
49 to 14 is a big jump for any stretch of the imagination, any team across the country.
I don't, I think Notre Dame finally deserves the respect that they, they have earned.

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I know they have that bad loss against Northern Illinois.
Was it?
But correct.
Yeah.
16 to 14.
Ever since that game, they have been rolling.
So I won money there.
I know most of us won money there.
That one to me wasn't a hard pick because if you lost money on that game, if you said

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Notre Dame minus 14 and a half and it didn't hit, it's almost like, okay, wow, well, Army's
pretty good.
You know, that's pretty cool for college football.
So win, win for the game to see and, and watch every Saturday and, you know, win for us
that that took Notre Dame minus 14 and a half handling business.
Now we jump over to some big 12 matchup.

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Probably the most important game of the big 12 this far, looking back throughout the season
and how it's unfolded BYU at Arizona State, Arizona State was a three point favorite over
under was 48.
The result of that game was an Arizona State W 28 to 23.

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Good teams win.
Great teams cover in Arizona covered to spread one me money as well.
Very proud of the devils over there.
I think BYU is fraudulent.
I have for a while.
I know they have big wins against Kansas State, which now after the season unfolded Kansas
State, not that good, but top two teams in the big 12 played each other.

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We might get a rematch here in a few weeks as well.
So that'll be very interesting.
Crazy ending from that game.
Yeah, we'll talk about, I want to talk about that a little bit.
Yeah, I want to get all the thoughts on that because that was, that was insanity.
Right.
And I mean, that's, I think that's the big 12.
There's a lot of insanity going on all year in the big 12.

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It's a wild, wild West over there.
And it's been fun.
I mean, do I think being the SEC expert, do I think any of these big 12 teams can, can
compete with the big boys?
Probably not, but it's still good football.
And you know what happens?
I mean, and playoff time, anything happens.
So it's fun to watch.

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That's right.
Now for the biggest matchup of last weekend, going into the weekend, I would say there
was a plethora of games that really, really turn college football upside down on its head
that we'll get to.
But this was the biggest matchup going into the week.
Indiana at Ohio State.
Will, I know me and you have been on the Indiana bandwagon a little bit.

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We like to see the underdog start prevailing.
I still am.
We like to see the smaller teams who haven't been anything compete with the big boys.
But I think this, this loss was a bad loss for Indiana.
As Ohio State takes the W 38 to 15.
Now I just said good teams win.

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Great teams cover.
Indiana did neither of those things.
Ohio State look dominant.
I think after that Oregon loss they had earlier in the season, it's been nothing but head
down.
They're here to prove a point and upsetting for Indiana because their strength of schedule
is very weak.
And for them to get pretty much blown out of the water throughout this game, it's just

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where do you put them now?
What do we do now?
So they're still in with all that happened, which I think we should also talk about.
We will definitely get to all that.
But I mean, this game had to have been closer man.
I mean, 38 to 15 of all the hype that we've had from Indiana.
Indiana's left tackle needs to, needs to reconsider his sport choice.

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He was getting absolutely ran through the entire game.
And that's what like the offense couldn't do anything because Curtis work was getting
hit two seconds into the play.
It's the best pass rush they face this whole season by far.
Yep.
Which I mean the, it was literally only the left tackle.

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However Ohio State's right end is, is either the best in the country or Indiana's left
tackle is the worst in the country.
And I will say, I think it was a proven point this weekend that just in college football
alone, the hardest thing to do is win on the road.
Oh yeah.
I mean, it's all that in the SEC, Indiana, they won a bunch of road games, but now they

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finally faced a big top 25 opponent, top 10 opponent, top five opponent on the road.
That's a tough thing to do to go into another place that you're not comfortable in.
You know, crowds, crowd is definitely a factor when it comes to those games.
And we saw it in many of the games you watch this weekend.
So let's, let's dive a little deeper into, we'll go army and Notre Dame first.

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Just to preface this, Nate went three and O on the games of the week, just so you guys
are aware.
He picked the Arizona State cover.
He had army Notre Dame over.
He had Indiana, Ohio State over, which I'll get into that one because that I went under
52 and he went over 52 and a half and they scored 53 points in the game.

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So that was, it's tough.
Nonsense.
Oh yeah, army and Notre Dame first.
Either of you guys have some thoughts immediately on this.
I mean, Riley Leonard is that guy.
I mean, there's no if fans or butts about it.
I just think they're an explosive team and they're just, I mean, I, it's hard to gauge

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because we want to say army is a good football team because they're undefeated, but I think
we're going to get more so of a true test of Notre Dame this week again late in the
season.
But I mean, Riley Leonard's him.
I think the defense is pretty good.
They fly around the football team.
They're well coached and army is a well coached football team too.

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I don't think they really give up many things to their opponents, you know?
So I think for Notre Dame to blow them out of the water, just do whatever they want with
the football and get stops.
Pretty impressive.
Yeah, it's not even like, like army didn't even really make that many mistakes.
One turnover, I believe.
I think they had one turnover, but I mean, they just far and away Notre Dame just had

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their way, whatever they wanted to do offensively.
It wasn't anything army could really do to stop.
And I think Notre Dame kind of already had like a blueprint for how to win games like
these.
They played Navy and I mean, obviously the outcomes are very similar.
And I'll question it a little bit.
I'd have my doubts, but like you got to think having to having played Navy and executing

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that, you know, as well as they did probably set them up, you know, because I think army
is more talented than Navy.
But I think they were able to beat them as badly as they beat Navy because they kind
of they've seen it before.
There were no surprises.
There were no like extra wrinkles that they could really do.
Like they knew what kind of game they were going to play and they'd seen it before.
And I think they just Notre Dame, aside from their one loss, all they do is execute and

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play mistake free football.
They're not overly explosive.
They've got a great running back, you know, love.
He's nasty.
Riley Leonard.
Riley Leonard is getting better every week.
We keep seeing it.
He's he's good.
The defense is fearsome.
I just think they play mistake free football that in their coaches, like the most intense

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individual I've ever seen in my life.
He actually I watch him on TV and I get a little intimidated.
So I can't imagine how the teams on the other sideline feel.
First off, shout out.
We appreciate the analysis love.
And I think it's just it's kind of indicative of what of what group of five versus power

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five games are almost without fail.
Look at me using a big word indicative.
We just always see every upset of a big team from like a smaller school is always it's
95% of the time it's high scoring because the power five teams offense is good, but

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the defense maybe not so good.
We rarely see a group of four defense shut down a power four offense period.
Yeah, like Northern Illinois did it this year.
Well, other than that, when have we seen it?
So that's why I think you have to have a complex and good offense as a group of four team to

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compete with those big schools like a or have a generational player like Boise State, something
like that.
Yeah, an equalizer.
Yeah, like it's you will not stop the group of four offense or the power four offense.
You just have to be able to score on that power four defense.

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Yeah.
All right.
Anything else on I mean, they kind of just did what they died.
I I bet off hope, you know, that like they would just be I wanted it to be competitive
and it just wasn't.
They just weren't they weren't up to snuff.
No, the game just doesn't like the troops.
No, no respect.

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No respect.
Jesus don't care.
No.
But I do, Brandon, I do agree with you.
I think they have a better test this coming weekend.
A little bit of a slept on test.
Yeah.
Maybe we'll talk about that one a little bit later.
Once we get into like a playoff predictor, I would love to talk about that.

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Perfect.
So let's go BYU at Arizona State.
May I Joe watch first of all, I watch the end.
I mean, everyone watched the end, I bet.
So like aside from this, like I think Arizona State was flat out the better team.
I think they were the better team the entire time.

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They were one point, weren't they?
It was like first, first half they first half they were having their way with them.
They, in Arizona State kind of does this a little bit where they get off to like really
fast starts and then they did it with Kansas State when they played them really fast start,
did it with BYU here.
And they kind of let off the gas a little bit and let them kind of climb back into the

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game, which, you know, for excitement's sake, I guess is a cool thing because it ended up
being one of the wildest finishes I've ever seen.
Before I get into that, Camp Scatibow, another three touchdowns and is absolutely, that
offense is absolutely peaking at the right time.

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They go through him for sure.
And as long as he's running well, it sets up the pass game extremely well.
They're very tough to stop.
But yeah, this last 20 something second minute, whatever it is, this last minute of the game,
whatever it was, they're second.

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I mean, they are on, they're up by five.
They are on BYU's like three, four.
I mean, they're at the goal line.
And the first play is a, they do this twice in a row where the quarterback just runs backwards

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for no less than 20 yards, just runs backwards and then tries to take off as much as the
clock as possible.
It was like a minute and 30, I think, so like, and they didn't have any timeouts.
So just trying to run the, run the clock out, runs backwards a mile, downs it, it's like
40 something seconds or whatever, 50 something seconds, does it again, or maybe it's like

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30 seconds, does it again?
They get down to like seven seconds in the game.
And now the quarterback is, if you had the quarterbacks rushing total for on prize picks
or anything, I'm sorry, because he got negative 97 yards without a doubt.
The last play, there's seven seconds left.

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This is like the end of their drive.
It's like fourth down.
And the idea here is this dude's just going to launch the ball as high up in the air as
possible and hope it hits the ground after the clock hits zero.
And it doesn't, but the fans think it does.
So the fans storm the field, it takes, I think they said it takes 13 minutes.

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Everyone storms the field.
They're all celebrating.
The coach is freaking out because he thought the game was over.
The quarterback's freaking out.
He thought the game was over.
They get to the point where after it was, I think they said it was like 13 minutes.
They get to the point where they move everyone off the end zone and the people just make
a U around the sidelines because no one can get back up into the stands.

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So the whole stadium is on the field, just like a little bit out of play.
And so BYU gets the ball back and they, you know, throw a Hail Mary or whatever.
And it's incomplete.
And then the fans rush the field all over again.
But I'm like, you guys are up by five.
And there's this little time, they are literally on the opposing four.

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In what world are we not just like running that thing in for a touchdown?
Right.
Yeah.
And saying, now we're up by 12 with a minute to go.
You cannot beat us now.
You have no timeouts.
Or at least knee it out and go up by eight.
Yeah.
Take a field goal and they got to drive the length of the field and, and score a touchdown

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and two point conversion with no timeouts and a minute left on the clock.
The decision to, I've never seen it before.
And I hope I never see it again because it was one of the most baffling offensive experiences
I've ever seen in my life.
Um, I don't know.
Will, do you think it was like, was there merit to this strategy or I don't know.

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I mean, there's something to do with like running the clock out.
Like you see it like, but not in that, like what's not to that extreme.
Like you'll see like someone like you're taking a knee, but you'll go back five yards
first, wait until someone's there.
Then take the knee, not run 20 yards backwards and then fall down twice and then run, and

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then run another play and just throw it up.
Like the coaching almost lost in the game.
It started on the opposing four, their drive ended on like the 47.
Yeah, it was, it was very bad.
Um, this, that has to be some kind of like analytical guy in the box that was like, yeah,

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this is the time for it.
And they probably haven't practiced it a lot.
Yeah.
You need this many seconds to come off before you hit the ground, before you take a knee
or whatever.
And theoretically you get down to six seconds and you throw this ball as high as you can.
It should hit the ground with zero and they never get a chance.
I could definitely see some guy in the press box being like, coach, this is the time that

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we do the thing.
And then he's like, okay, team thing.
And they're like, uh, okay, sure.
Whoever guy is, I want him to be fired.
Right.
Because that was awful.
Um, other than that though, I mean, it was great entertainment.
I was about to go get dinner and I was like, well, I have to see this through now.

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Yeah.
I forgot also too.
They mentioned it in the chat.
Um, I don't know why I didn't correct you when you said it, but be why you caught the
Hail Mary.
Oh yeah.
They were only a few.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
That's right.
They did catch the ball.
It was like, yeah, they were just short of the goal line.
So if, yeah, if Levitt's runs like five more yards backwards, they probably catch it in

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the end zone and lose the game.
I watched the guy catch the Hail Mary.
But like, by the time the ball was in his hands and he was on the ground, there was
already like a student with a phone in his face, like on the field.
Like it was, did y'all see, um, someone tried to, uh, I can't remember if it was this game

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or not, but someone tried to take a helmet and, uh, then the equipment, the equipment
manager literally chases him down and tackles him.
Like, oh my God.
He ran like 50 yards, like sprint.
Like, like a student?
Yeah.
Like a student.
Yeah.
I think, um, I was watching another podcast and they're talking about kind of like the

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rushing of the field and how it's like, one, it's losing its like allure because like everyone's
freaking doing it now.
Like Oklahoma did it to, you know, because they got bowl eligibility and it's like, okay,
you got bowl eligibility the last six years and you never stormed the field for that.
We're Georgia fans and Ole Miss was ranked top 15.

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Yeah.
We need a top 10 team.
Stormed the field.
To the rush to the field.
It's like, it's a great win, but like, so it's like that.
It's like, you know, teams get fined, you know, the organizations get fined and it's a,
I mean, it's a health risk.
Like there's an injury risk.
Like you don't know who's going to run out there.
You can't control.
What if one of them's like the opposing, you know, an opposing fan and he's pissed,

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you know, because his team just lost like, I think, I think the only way you should,
you know, the crowd should be able to rush the field is if it's like a championship game
atmosphere or if like the spread is like 28 plus.
I think the Vandy, I think the Vandy win was warranted.
Yeah.

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It needs to be a program changing when that's like the first time they've beaten a top whatever
team and 60 something years that warrants a rushing onto the field.
Like something that hasn't happened in six decades.
You got it.
But if you did it like last year, like if you were in a bowl game last year and you just
made yourself eligible for one this year, don't rush the field.
I think you had a disappointing season.

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Arizona State's predicted to be the B12 championship.
Yeah, I think there's only been three games that have warranted a field rush.
There was the Vandy game, obviously Vandy, Vandy beating Bama.
This game was technically at Notre Dame, but if Northern Illinois beat Notre Dame at Northern
Illinois, that would warrant it.

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Sure.
Sure.
And I'm maybe a little Homer here, but case you get in there first.
Uh, yep.
FBS.
First win in program, yeah, program history and FBS.
Against an undefeated Liberty team.
You can rush the field.
Because you'll probably never get the opportunity again.
No.
I think I'll mention Tennessee being Bama because that's more so of like traditional

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thing.
Every time they beat Bama at home, there's the start.
They just do that.
Yeah.
They take the goal post.
They throw it in the river.
Yeah.
That's fine.
They do that anyways.
If it's like, yeah, if it's part of history.
Yeah, I didn't count it.
That's tradition.
Yeah.
Um, anyways, yeah, crazy game.
I think we all won money on that one.
I'm pretty sure we were all in lockstep with the Arizona State cover.

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I didn't.
I wouldn't be what you wanted.
Oh, yeah, you did go BYU.
You were probably hoping for that Hail Mary to go three yards further.
I mean, they should have.
All right, let's do the, uh, let's go last game.
We'll do the marquee matchup Indiana at Ohio State.
Will, go ahead and start us off with your thoughts here.

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First off, the left tackle from Indiana needs to be banned from football forever.
I've heard that somewhere.
Don't touch a football field ever again.
Um, like it, Indiana competed for the first, maybe not in the first full entire first half,
but probably for the first quarter and a half.

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Yeah.
When they scored the first touchdown, that's when the left tackle was actually playing decent.
And then after that Curtis Rourke had no time to throw the ball.
He was snapping the ball and a guy was already in his lap.
It was bad.
And then like the run game shockingly was actually somewhat decent.
Like there were, and it, and it wasn't because of the O line getting good push.

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So that running back was bouncing so many plays outside when it was getting blown up.
And yeah, I mean, like the old, basically Ohio State, one of the trenches, I legitimately
think Ohio State right now, they're my favorite.
I think, I think it's close between them and Oregon for me.

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Um, technically like quarterback play you could agree with with Dylan Gabriel is better
than Will Howard.
But Ohio, I think consistency.
Yes.
Yeah.
Ohio State's defense is better than Oregon.
So it really just depends on what your preference is.
I mean, mine, the, the, the favorite for me flips every week.
Um, and they're going to, they might see each other three times this year.

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So we never really know.
Um, but yeah, Indiana basically got bullied in the trenches.
They're still a top 12 team.
They will be in the playoff.
Don't care that they got blown out by 23.
They will be there strict.
I mean, with everything that happened in the SEC, they went from potentially five to 16
is getting into now max four, probably three.

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So I think, um, for me, what sticks out and props to Ohio State, I always like, I want
to start with a winner.
Um, they executed their game plan perfectly.
They, they did exactly what they wanted to do in the football field.
And that's what the best teams do.
Um, been watching Indiana and, you know, the hype's been growing and, you know, people

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getting higher and higher on them.
They've been successful in all of these games because they've kind of dictated the pace
and established that the, the tempo that they wanted to play at.
You hadn't seen them have to, I don't want to say play from behind, but, but play in
a game where they didn't establish that tempo.

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And what you saw was Ohio State established the tempo they wanted to play at and Indiana
become extremely undisciplined, making uncharacteristic mistakes, which tells me they aren't quite
ready for, for this kind of, you know, competition yet.
Um, it'll help, it helps that they've seen it.

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So now that they kind of know what it's like, the best teams are the ones that are able
to win, you know, they can win ugly.
They can win playing from behind.
They can win when they control the tempo.
Like you've seen Ohio State kind of, you know, getting those battles with like Penn State
and come out on top.
You've, you've seen those good teams have to win, uh, in different types of ways.
I've really only seen Indiana win in one way.

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You know, I haven't seen a massive like come behind, come from behind victory against a,
you know, a stalwart program.
So I think it was good experience for them.
Um, but it did show their flaws and it gave me doubts about how successful they will be
in the college football playoff.
I do think they get in.

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I think they struggle with whoever they face, unless it's like a Arizona state or something
like that.
I agree with that.
And I think that level of uncomfortableness comes from like wall said, the O line and
D line.
I think that's where the, the level of play gets elevated when you face these top 10 teams

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that are considered elite is, you know, you might have a really good quarterback, but if
you doesn't have time to throw, it's hard to be really good quarterback.
You might have a really good run game.
If you can't run block makes it hard to run and vice versa.
If you can't get after the quarterback and you struggle stopping the run, it's going
to be tough.
And I think that's why, you know, if I were to make an argument for say like Will saying,

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you know, we, we looked at four or five teams possibly getting in now we're down to probably
only three SEC teams.
I think that's more so the reason why the SEC is the best conference in all of college
football is because every game there is a level of that uncomfortableness that comes

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with it where you're never going to completely control the pace of the game until you've
won the game, which means you're up by however many points or you have dominated the pace
for that long.
So I think that's kind of a wake up call that Indiana had to go through this weekend and
say, Oh, okay.
You know, when we get in this realm of college football where we're not going to control

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everything at every second of the game and move the football, how we want to move it,
what do we do?
And it was almost just like they were not prepared for that.
And I think back to my argument, that's why these SEC teams would be more suitable for
this playoff and their resumes would still hold the weight and strength that they would

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is because they do that same thing every week.
So yeah, unfortunate for Indiana because I think they are a good football team still.
I think they, I go back and forth to my head saying are they top 12 or are they not?
But I don't think their resume or their schedule has prepared them for being a top 12 team.

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I think they could be.
They have talented players.
They have a great coach and great schemes and all that.
I just don't, we talk a lot about betting sense, you know, which, which team has been
prepared for their game better.
You know?
I just with Indiana, I don't know if they were prepared for this one.
Maybe this could help them adjust some things so they get over the hump and they could be

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more competitive against these elite teams.
But nonetheless, I mean, it was, it was a tough watch after the second, you know, late in
the second half when it was like, okay, they're starting to roll away with this thing.
Also screw Ohio State for running up the score in like the last minute when they didn't need

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to because it made my under not hit, which was like, dude, I looked away and I'm like,
I, that, we nailed it.
There's like a minute 20 left and Ohio State got the ball back and they're up.
What was it?
30, 31, 15.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I'm like, cool, it's done.
Just run the clock out and, and I go home a winner and then I look back over and there's,

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he's sprinting for like a 40 yard run down to the one yard line.
I'm like, okay, great.
I think, I think it was a, it was obviously a run play meant to just run the clock down,
but I think they just sucked at defending it.
Yeah.
I think also that was like a slap in the face of, hey, you're going to have to earn
your spot up here in the big 10 elite world.

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Yeah.
Oh, so mean.
They'll, yeah, they'll still be in the playoff because I think there's something about showing
up every week that'll get them in.
Cause I mean, like we've seen like, like Bama losing to Oklahoma and Vandy Ole Miss losing
to Florida and Kentucky.
There's something about getting your team to show up every week, no matter, no matter

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like if you're playing a good team or a bad team.
That's why I think Indiana will get in because they haven't slipped up against bad teams like
Alabama and an Ole Miss have.
There's two sides to it, right?
There's what are your good wins.
Right.
What are your bad losses?
And so, you know, you look at good wins, but if you have no bad losses, like your only

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losses to Ohio State, was it as competitive as it could have been?
Probably not, but that's your only loss.
If I'm looking at it, if I'm Indiana and like I look at, and then you look at margin of
victory against the teams that they did beat for the most part, it's hard to argue that
they didn't do enough to warrant it.

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If they had showed out and like really played well against Ohio State and lost in a close
game, no one would say anything.
It'd be like, oh yeah, for sure, they belong.
But it's because they didn't match up.
You could just tell, I mean, there's four or five star recruits who had more blue chips,
you know, and Ohio State dominated on that.
They have like 50 guys that are like four or five stars and Indiana has, I think, nine.

(33:03):
Right.
Yeah.
And then they're like, oh, I think they're gonna be in the end.
Ohio State's the top three team.
We see, I would generally think Indiana could.
I don't think they'll beat in Oregon and Ohio State.
I think they could compete with Penn State.
I think they can stay in that game.
They match up better.
They could compete with a, I think they could compete with any ACC team right now, potentially

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any Pac-12 team or a big 12 team for sure.
I think they win both of those conferences.
Yeah.
And then I think after that, when you look at, I don't know if they beat Miami.
Yeah.
It'd be, those would all be close.
It'd be a good game with Miami.
That's the only one.
Miami and SMU were the only two teams.
I think they won the big 12 pretty easily.
I mean, I agree with that for sure.

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We can get into that later, but all those, you know, all those schools that were mentioning,
they would have more so of a better chance on the offensive and defensive line.
Right.
Yeah.
We haven't mentioned SEC because what is down pat the most?
Like, what are you going to have in the SEC?
A good offensive line for sure.

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Yeah.
And a good one for sure.
You're going to win the trenches.
I don't even think Indiana would be able to compete with one through five in the SEC
right now.
Like, you know what I think would be a good matchup?
This would be good.
Florida versus Indiana right now.
I like that.

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Florida's kind of trending up.
Florida's going in the right direction.
You can see, you know, they're clearly playing better football.
Man, put Florida in playoff.
We compete.
I think Indiana beats Missouri by 40.
That kind of goes against the, you know, the argument of, okay, should Indiana get in
over in a SEC team that has three losses now.

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Three losses.
Because we're saying Florida is as average in the SEC right now and they've had the hardest
schedule possible this year.
And we're saying, okay, they might probably be Indiana.
Yeah, especially if they do.
I don't think they do.
Is that the swamp?
But it is, yeah.
All right.
Before we get too deep into it, because we are going to pull up the playoff bracket in

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a little while anyways, let's finish it.
Let's go toilet bowl and then do our individual plays.
And then we'll get into that stuff.
Um, freaking, this one made me so Charleston Southern at FSU line is minus 33 and a half.
And you're telling me that FSU wins by 34.

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Did you have a point above it?
Did you all see the end of it?
Uh, yes.
I watched the entire game.
I was sitting, I was sitting on a Mexican restaurant being like, okay.
So it's, it was, I think it was what 41 seven, something like that.
Yeah, they were on like the 14, they got to like the seven maybe or something like that.
Yeah.
It was, yeah, 41 seven and they're, they get the ball back.

(36:02):
I'm like, okay.
Yep.
And then it's just down.
I'm like, kick the field goal, please, please kick it.
And they go for it.
Don't get it.
It was, it was right there.
Yeah.
It was right there.
They were around the 10.
Like they were, it was like a chip shot field goal.
If they had just kicked it and like, just get some points.
You're not going to win.
Yeah.

(36:23):
You're not going to score.
Game's already over.
You're not going to win.
Kick the field goal.
Get the double digits.
Get a moral victory.
I know.
Only took this long in the season for Florida State to score over 21 points.
The funny thing is this game was three zero at halftime.
Yeah.
The street game.
Three zero at halftime.
So it's like three zero.
And then I guess FSU saw one go in like, it's like you're struggling playing basketball

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and then you see one fall and all of a sudden it's just like, oh, we know how to do this
all of a sudden and they rattle off like 38 consecutive points.
Don't worry.
They're not scoring 21 this upcoming week.
Highly doubted.
Highly doubted.
It would be cool.
They played Charleston Southern might be the worst team in the FCS and it took them three
quarters to get like a commanding lead.

(37:08):
Hey, like Florida like five weeks ago was the worst team in the FBS and now we're beating
the top 10 team.
All right, are we ready to go to individual plays?
Yeah.
All right.
Let's go individuals.
I've got Nate's here.
I wrote it kind of fast.
So bear with me.

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He had Colorado at Kansas.
He had the Colorado cover.
Kansas won the football game outright.
That team is Kansas is actually that's like like big, big 12 Florida.
Honestly.
I was just about to say that like they're like that's like big 12 Florida.
Peeking at the right time playing some spoiler.

(37:52):
It's just like that.
I sent it in the group chat or whatever.
That video of the scene from stepbrothers where it's Florida and Kansas.
Yeah, they're like, I were here to fuck shit up.
Yeah, they really and they really are like consistently like every week now it seems.
Let's see.
He had Texas Tech minus three and a half over OK State.

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They won that football game by eight in a defensive struggle where there was over a hundred
points of offense.
Jesus Christ.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It was like 54 to something.
I can't remember exactly 53 to 45 maybe.
It was like a hundred points.

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And so he got that one.
Finally he had Cincinnati covering plus eight and a half versus Kansas State.
One 41 to 15, which is slightly more than eight and a half.
So Nate went 26.
Yep.
So he went one and two on his individual play.
So he went three and 0 on the games of the week, but one and two on individuals.

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Will, you want to go ahead and go?
Yeah, I'll go first.
We'll go with the one that you know I hit.
Iowa minus six and a half versus Maryland.
I didn't have their fifth string quarterback playing this week.
So they I would kind of just dominated the entire game to be honest.
Then Wisconsin money line versus Nebraska.

(39:20):
It was close in the first half.
I legitimately thought Wisconsin could pull it out.
And then Nebraska just kind of laid it on him.
Just took it out and whipped it out against against Wisconsin in the second half.
And it just wasn't even close after that.
And then Penn State minus 11 versus Minnesota.

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They won by one point.
Minnesota is playing good some good ball recently.
We'll talk about them a little later.
And but they've been playing some good ball and their defense is actually a legit power
five defense offense.
Maybe not so great, but their defense is legitimate.

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All right, let's go ACC.
Your boy went three and oh on the weekend for individual plays.
So again, who's laughing now?
I'm pretty sure it's me.
I'm pretty sure it's me.
Surgical on ACC performance.
First one NC State at Georgia Tech.

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They had NC State coming in at plus 10.
This was easy look ahead for Georgia Tech.
They got Georgia coming up.
I know that's the game they care more about anyway, since they already have bowl eligibility.
Georgia Tech still won the football game 30-29 in a wild one, but NC State did cover.
NC State is looking for bowl eligibility in their final week versus North Carolina.

(40:47):
Just in case you guys were wondering.
Probably not.
Actually I have them covering so they might.
North Carolina at because they're playing this team here.
North Carolina at Boston College.
Boston College was the underdog here, which the line makers for ACC, they were sleeping.

(41:07):
I saw opportunities all over the place.
Boston College won this game 41-21.
It wasn't even close.
So I don't know why North Carolina was favored, but thank you for the coin.
Finally Stanford at Cal.
Again a horrible line.
This is the big game.
This is the game that these two teams care about more than any other.
Cal was favored by 14.

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That's two touchdowns in this like a game of this magnitude.
No shot.
Cal wins 24-21 on a last minute drive, 98 yard drive to win the game at the end of regulation.
Extremely cool.
Shout out Fernando Mendoza quarterback for the Bears.
Hell of a performance.
So yeah, I went 3-0 and none of them were difficult.

(41:50):
I didn't break a sweat.
I'm glad you guys are having a little bit of fun over in your time.
I'm not.
I'm not.
It's a very mixed bag for me.
It's absolute chaos over here in the ACC.
First, we'll start off with our plus money play, which now seems like the most reasonable

(42:13):
play.
We took the Vanderbilt plus 250 money line at LSU.
We had to pick a plus money play and anytime Vandy is, I don't think they should really
be considered like in the plus 200s anymore, but anytime they're plus 250 or plus 200
higher, I'm taking them.

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Don't care who they're playing.
They were at LSU.
The score was 24-17.
I mean, they kept it close.
They lost by a touchdown in-depth value against LSU who's shown to be somewhat decent.
They've had a tough schedule, but they are pretty good at football.
So tough loss there, but we're going to take it over.

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We'll just start off with the less crazy of the two, I would say, game-wise.
The game wasn't as crazy.
We had Alabama versus Oklahoma.
That result was crazy.
I just want to say that before this week, Oklahoma was one in five in SEC play.

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And Alabama was still fighting for an SEC championship spot and a playoff spot at, I
think, four and two.
And they had Oklahoma and Auburn next.
So they could have easily been six and two and taken that SEC championship spot from,
say, Georgia now.

(43:40):
So we had Alabama covering 13 and a half against Oklahoma.
Oklahoma had just been a terrible football team.
They had zero identity.
I wonder how that one went.
Yeah.
Oh my God.
Texas blue Oklahoma out of the water.
And I mean, we talk about Texas and only time they've played a good team, they've struggled.

(44:01):
So if Texas is playing a bad team, they're going to win.
And now we see Alabama go to Oklahoma on the road and get absolutely blown out 24 to
33 when it's funny Nate's not here because Nate's been the sole voice of Alabama sand.
You know, each week the defense is looking better each week.
Milrose really figuring it out.

(44:23):
He's really, you know, Ryan Williams, he's that guy.
And then they go out there and get absolutely slaughtered by a quarterback who didn't even
throw the ball more than 11 times in a football game.
It's kind of embarrassing.
And it really sucks because that should have been an easy bet.
Very, very easy bet to hit.

(44:44):
Milrose is definitely a fraud.
And it's, I don't know what to do with Alabama anymore.
So we'll move on to an insane football game that I think went to the triple overtime mark.
And it really could have gone to the quadruple overtime mark because there was a easy, easy

(45:05):
right in the basket pass in the end zone for the two point conversion that was flat out
dropped.
It's blows my mind.
We still see stuff like that in college football and how that's all you do all day at practice.
And we still have that that football dropped to pretty much lose.
They dropped the whole season right there.

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We had Texas A&M covering minus two and a half against a very bad Auburn football team
who just like Oklahoma before this week was one in five in SEC play.
And then Texas A&M thought they were going to waltz right in to Auburn and take that
game pretty handily.
Not going to happen.

(45:47):
Auburn takes that game 43 to 41.
That was a wild game.
So I was we went over three when I thought I'm pretty sure I said last podcast.
I was very confident in my mind.
Yeah.
Didn't you say this is the most confident you felt all year?
Yeah, I think he did say that.

(46:07):
Yeah.
I mean, I'm looking at it still and I would still take these bets again.
All right.
So consistency.
I was sitting there watching the Auburn game and I knew Brandon had minus two and a half.
And I mean, like it was it was basically over when when they got to the two point plays.

(46:28):
Yeah, because technically they can only win by two.
Exactly.
But I'm like there.
I'm like, I still want to say I'm going to win.
Yeah.
I'm literally just I and I was standing.
I was standing watching this game.
Me too.
And he throws it and I stand up and I'm just like, no.
Like it was I'm legit like there's no way that just happened.

(46:50):
And it was like 10 p.m. here already at that time.
I'm like, I want to go to bed, but I'm watching this good game.
Yeah.
And that's how it ends.
And I mean, the commentators even said it like that game deserved a better ending.
A guy dropping a pass to lose the game.
Like a perfectly located pass.
It was right here.
It was right perfectly perfect pass.

(47:13):
All right.
So I've got the updated standings for the bandits here.
Let me can you guys can you guys see that?
Can you see it?
Let me check it out.
Yeah.
All right.
So Brandon on games of the week, you still are, I mean, really leading the way here.

(47:40):
Individual plays Nate with his big 12 is he had a down week this time, but overall he's
kind of leading the way.
And I am still the king of the toilet bowl, despite this past weekend's loss.
Place is Nate by one game over Brandon.
So Nate's 49, 41 and one Brandon's 48, 42 and one.

(48:03):
I am 46, 43 and two and will is bringing up the rear 44, 46 and one.
We'll get back boys.
Also one week left.
One week left to go.
Also I know I for some reason is not showing up in my chat, but I saw it in there.
Someone was asking us what we'll go a little off topic here.

(48:26):
Would the nuggets be the worst team in the league without Yokech?
I mean, we don't really talk about the NBA.
Oh, I think it'd be a.
It's close.
They'd be bottom.
Yes.
They're not the worst.
Not the worst.
Yeah, it's like not the worst.
Like I mean, the Hawks exist, even though the wizards, the wizards would still probably

(48:48):
be the worst.
You're talking about just the West or NBA as a whole?
NBA as a whole.
Yeah, not the worst.
Not the worst.
I mean, Yokech is arguably the best player in the NBA.
So taking them out.
Yeah, it hurts the nuggets a lot.
Well, yeah, because then their leading scorer is probably like Michael Porter, Jr.

(49:11):
Either him or Jamal Murray, but Jamal Murray is in the court.
I guess, well, yeah, I'm saying like Murray would probably be the guy, but he'd have to
be the guy for 82 games and he hasn't done that since like 2018.
Yeah, he can't stay on the court at all.
That's a team with like a bunch of like perfect role players for Yokech.
And if you take Yokech out, it's like they have no role anymore.

(49:36):
So I kind of, I still think there's teams that have no talent in the game.
Bron has been playing a lot better.
I've been seeing him.
He's coming up.
I mean, like he's the perfect role player for Yokech.
He's a white guy and can shoot.
That's what they need out there because Yokech is going to post up or do something at the

(49:57):
elbow or something like that and just kick it out.
I still think the Wizards would be worse and I think, I actually think the 76ers would
be worse.
They're freaking bad right now.
Yeah.
I still think the Hawker would be worse.
So third worse.
I would have them at third worse.
Third worst team in the West, third worst team in the NBA.

(50:19):
Yeah.
They, they, for some reason though, I think they'd find a way like to do something.
If Jamal Murray is healthy all year, which is a big if, but say Jamal Murray is as healthy
as Yokech is, then I think they can be a perennial, they'll be a play in team.

(50:40):
But other, if Jamal Murray is being as playing 30 to 40 games like he normally is, then they
won't make the playoffs.
Then you got Aaron Gordon and Michael Porter Jr. running your offense and you're just not,
you're going to score 70 points a game.
Yeah.
But yeah, any, any sports questions guys, you guys have, we'll answer it to the best
of our ability.

(51:01):
Like if it's like, it's like cricket, maybe not, but like basketball, basketball, a core
four sport, we got you.
Cam's got you in hockey.
Bedding career.
I'm still one for one on cricket bets.
So.
Okay.
So go to Brandon with all of your cricket questions.
All overs.
Just take the over.
Apparently cricket.

(51:21):
The games, the games last four days.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Take the over.
The Dodgers will not go 162 and 0.
They might.
But.
God dude.
Blake Snell.
They got Snell too.
They, the Dodgers might have Elon Musk as their like secret owner.
Because they have more money than the entire US debt combined.

(51:45):
I just don't understand how they signed billion dollar contracts and then shell out another
150 plus million.
We've also like baseball is the most with the sport with the most variants.
We haven't seen a repeat winner since 2000.
No matter what, like, are the Dodgers, are the Dodgers the favorites?

(52:06):
Yes.
And the Brains will just keep signing backup angels players like David Fletcher and we'll
be all right.
We'll have Orlando R.C. as our shortstop for the next six years.
Well, O'Tonny has like a sub one ERA and that's 50 homers and.
We got to do something at shortstop.
We got to get like William Domis.

(52:28):
We won't this year.
We're not going to do it.
I know.
It's going to be RC.
And he's going to hit.
We might go sign like Trevor Plouffe from a Brom Boy meeting.
From the Wiffleball team.
Yeah.
Shoot, I'd go get freaking.
Remember that guy Tyler Pasternicki like.
Oh my God.
10 years ago.
10 years ago on the Brains.

(52:49):
Go get him.
He's better than R.C. as something.
He's like Dan Uggler's replacement.
Go get him or something like that.
I mean, throw a Kunia at shortstop.
He'll be better.
The one thing R.C. could always do was field.
He couldn't even do that last year.
Nope.
I'm going to go and bend over.

(53:09):
I appreciate the what a pull.
It is a pull.
Ball knowledge is here.
I'm pretty sure bend over is Parker Duffy.
Is it actually?
I don't.
That's not 100%.
But I have a hunch.
If that's you Parker.
Shout out.
I mean, even if it's not you Parker shout out to.

(53:32):
Yeah.
Happier here.
Whoever you are.
All right.
Let's you want to pull up the actual playoff.
That makes me think it is.
So I want to you scroll it down just a touch.

(53:53):
Let's see.
Oh, this is nice.
Yeah.
This is this bleacher report.
Yeah.
We're fancy out here this time.
Shout out.
All right, so this is what they had right on Tuesday.
Yeah.
All right.
So I just kind of want to just a round table discussion here.
Where did they get it right?
Where did they get it wrong?

(54:14):
And why?
What do you see happening over this?
This you know, basically on Saturday or Friday or Saturday.
What do you see happening that would make this the not actual result of the playoff that
we're going to see?
Conference championships as well.
Conference champions as well.
So I think as at the rating at the 100% moment in present right now, I think it's actually

(54:37):
like almost correct because I mean, like they have they have the field right.
What I put this maybe in the exact same order.
Maybe not.
Like I think I like me personally, I have UGA at seven over an order game, maybe even
Tennessee over an order game.
But like the actual like game or not games, but like teams in that, I wouldn't have a single

(55:01):
different team because of what happened with SEC and as much as like we the committee wanted
to be the top four, the power for conference winners get in or get the buy, it's going to
be Boise because they're going to be ranked probably in the top 10 and Arizona State is

(55:22):
the hottest team on the planet right now and they're going to they're going to win the
big 12 and sadly run into a buzz saw of either Ohio State or Oregon and probably get Molly
Watt.
So I, so I've got mine and let me, so I've got Oregon.
I have Georgia at two because I still think they, I have them winning the SEC championship.

(55:46):
But that's fine.
I think in the future.
Both those, both those teams are flopped.
But like Texas is still Texas is at the moment.
I think I got a hundred percent, but in the future, yes, I can definitely see UGA too.
So as far as like teams that are currently, I have all of these same teams as well.
I don't have a single different team.
Brandon, do you have any different teams that are not listed in this?

(56:10):
Because I kept Indiana in it too.
I put, I actually put them at 11.
So we, I was spot on with them.
And I have different teams that I would want to see in the playoff, but knowing how the
committee works in South Carolina, baby.
Yeah.
And how it unfolds, I think this is going to be the bracket.
So this is kind of what I'm going to base my judgment off of.

(56:33):
I agree with you guys.
I think this will be the final bracket.
I think Georgia will be Texas in the SEC championship.
So I could see just Georgia and Texas being flopped.
So Texas would play Tennessee round one.
And then I also would have SMU beating Miami.
So I could see them just flipping as well.

(56:55):
But other than that, I think, you know, Ohio State at five kind of, you know, why would
they not be four?
You know, I think it's because we have to have that number four spot be the, the Boise
state.
But no, I agree.

(57:15):
All the teams, I think are going to be corrected sucks because do I think these are the best
12 teams in the country in the country?
No.
But based off the curriculum, which they make the bracket off of, yes, this is what I see
the bracket being.
I think this would be a fun match some fun matchups.
Tennessee, Georgia was fun last time they played and it'd be fun to see them.

(57:39):
It was it was it was at Georgia last time, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
It'd be at Georgia again.
I want to see how Tennessee handles that environment having like with Nico having experienced it
now.
Indiana Penn State, we already said earlier that would be fun.
Ohio State.
Yeah, I like that one.
Our state Arizona State might kind of be a blowout, but that's going to be Ohio State

(58:02):
minus 21.
Yeah.
And then, but I think Notre Dame SMU would be fun.
That one would be fun.
And then I mean, whoever wins out of Tennessee, UGA, that Oregon game, that would be probably
the best game of of the of the whole college football playoff.
Was it last year that Georgia put up like 50 against Oregon?

(58:26):
Or is that two years?
Yeah.
Yeah.
It was last year.
Was it?
Yeah, I think so because it was with bow nicks.
I know that.
Yeah.
And I think yeah, it was it was a week one.
And then they put up like it was like 48 to six or something like that, but then they
come back and they're, are you ready?
No, you're right.
It was like 50.
I think it was like more so like 54 to three.
Yeah.

(58:47):
I just don't know if it was this this year or like this past year or last year.
I think it was this past year because I think we were all at our previous employer.
We were there.
All right, so I have a little bit of chaos that I that I can legitimately see happening,

(59:07):
particularly around group of five, which the grand scheme of things probably won't make
a ton of difference once you get to like semi finals and finals games, obviously.
But for the purposes of the playoff, I do think it's intriguing.
Boise State obviously is the group of five team that is favored.
They as long as I pretty much a sure thing, they're playing UNLV for the Mountain Lines,

(59:30):
Mountain West title.
I think UNLV can win that game.
And if UNLV wins that game, it will actually be between them and Tulane for the highest
ranked group of five team to get in Tulane is nine and two seven and one conference.
They're probably going to play army for the American athletic.

(59:54):
They're currently ranked 17th.
So if Tulane wins their conference championship, UNLV wins their conference championship, I
think they give it to Tulane and Tulane sneaks in probably ends up being the 12 seed.
If I had to guess, yeah, in this in this tournament and then maybe Arizona State gets to buy.
Yeah, because Tulane loses, which would be absolutely crazy that we're having a two

(01:00:18):
loss group of five team get in.
That's what I'm saying.
But so yeah, I mean, like, do I see it happening?
I think Boise wins again, but it is hard to beat a good team and UNLV is a legitimately
good team twice.
They're solid.
They took, you know, Syracuse isn't like, but Syracuse is had they have had their moments

(01:00:39):
where they're very good and they took Syracuse to overtime.
So like they can compete against some, you know, power four teams.
I just think that would be, I think that would be fun just because we're getting chaos in
literally like, I feel like Boise State.
Oregon, Ohio State and Boise State have been like the mainstays in this and everyone else

(01:01:00):
is like either been on like the fringe or is like, there's been doubts about their,
you know, playoff promise depending on who they lost to the prior week.
But I feel like if that happens, that would be, it'd be fun to see a team like Tulane
just sneak in out of nowhere and people be like, where did these guys even come from?
I think there'll be one team that does do that.
Like they'll give it like, well, like even like if nothing happens, there'll be one team

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that the committee is like that, that gets in and we're like, what the heck?
Like why are they in the playoff?
Or like something like that, which I mean, if it happens, like, hope it's South Carolina.
But something like that.
Also we'll get to, I know someone asked in the chat about Miami potential upset at Syracuse.

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That is actually, yeah, those are, that's actually one of our games of the week next
week.
So we'll get to that later.
It's definitely possible.
And then that bone next game at Oregon versus Georgia was two years ago.
I couldn't remember to be honest.
But yeah, I remember that game vividly because Oregon was like horrible that entire game.

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Then for some reason just out of the pop off the rest of the year.
One other thing about this is I have to be the one to say it because I've been saying
that this is going to have happened for the last like six weeks now.
Notre Dame loses another game.
And I said, which game they were going to lose this weekend is the weekend.
They lose to USC.
It's not on any of our best bets or anything.

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It's not on any of our games of the week.
But just so you guys heard on the podcast, I have had USC beating Notre Dame for the
last five or six weeks.
I'm staying by my word.
I'm a man of my word.
So I'm either going to, I mean, I'm 50%.
I say some stuff that's like, wow, he's a genius and then I have army moments where

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they're like, yeah, you're stupid.
It's an our individual.
Yeah, we'll see which side.
Oh yeah, you have Notre Dame minus seven.
It's not there.
So low.
USC is covering that.
USC is covering and winning, covering and winning.
They don't have a core back.
They've got good receivers.

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They can't.
They got really good receivers.
Now they short routes and then yards after the catch.
Notre Dame can't defend the pass.
They haven't had to.
And anytime they have, they give up more than 25 points.
The closest games that they've played are against teams that can throw the ball a little
bit.
Will USC stop Notre Dame?
I think it will be their best test defensively.

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It'll be the best test that they have faced.
I think they'll be able to score, but I think they can be slowed because they haven't faced
another defense that is really any good at all, honestly.
I think Notre Dame's just clicking too much.
I'm looking at this bracket.
I think the only team that is an absolute lock to still be in there right now is still

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is just Oregon.
Yeah.
I think Oregon can.
I think Ohio State is.
Ohio State probably is.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Oregon could lose their, the next game.
Who is it?
Yeah.
Yeah.
They could lose to Washington and they could lose the conference championship and still
be it.

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I don't think there's another team on here that could do that and still get it.
Like if Ohio State loses to Michigan and loses to Oregon again, they're definitely out.
Right.
With how much they love the big 10, they have shown to love the big 10.
I think Ohio State potentially if they lose to Michigan and Oregon.

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But I think also because they won't make the big 10 championship Penn State, if they lose
next week, they're 10 and two their ranks number four, I think right now.
And there's six on this bracket, but I think overall in the rankings, the rank number four,
I don't think they drop out all the way out of the top 12, especially because they only

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have two losses and how much they love the big 10 this year.
Right.
True.
So like take it to Texas.
If they lose to Texas A&M, they lose to or Texas, if they lose to Texas A&M, they don't
go to the conference championship in the SEC.
Do they still get it?
At same thing at 10 and two with no conference to play.

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Like would that game, I'm what I'm saying more so is like, would it be a smart loss for Texas
to lose on purpose to Texas A&M?
Because do you think they could still have a chance to get in there and secure one less
game on their schedule leading up to the.
They get a little less beat up.

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Yeah.
Yeah, but they could also, they go to the SC championship and when they get a buy and
guaranteed home game until or not home to anyone at home game, but like they get a buy
basically.
But do you want to do you want to risk the buy or do you, you know, or do you want to
go against Georgia and the SEC championship?

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Like you know what I'm saying?
That is like an interesting kind of.
Also like you said for Brandon, let you've been saying for the past, for the whole season,
don't leave it up to the committee because that's what Georgia did last year and then
they didn't get in.
You definitely don't want to.
But I'm saying like, like in Oregon, they could go out there and lose against Washington.

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They like what I'm saying, they wouldn't want to lose any of their games.
I wouldn't feel like they're already locked in there.
They know they're going to get a buy.
Well not necessarily not yet, but you know, they've been a lock all week.
They can win or lose and still be in.
Right.
If I'm Oregon though, I want to win out because it almost guarantees I face an inferior number

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or an inferior team.
They get the four seed if they win this with this bracket, if they went out this bracket,
that's now I'm looking at it.
Yeah, they've got to face SEC first round.
They haven't played anybody of that caliber yet.
So would they be prepared?
So they maybe Ohio State.
So they try to pull an Ohio State and get the five seed.
Don't have to play for that.

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I just don't think teams like Seedwatch really.
I'm looking at this bracket and I would love to be an Ohio State fan in this turnout like
this.
You're telling me we could really not worry about the conference championship.
We could play Arizona State and then Boise State and then be in the national championship.

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That's take for they would they would they would have to go through a Oregon UGA or Tennessee
to get to the 90, but they'd be in the semifinals playing one of them.
Right.
And that I mean, that's easy just to get there.
You didn't you didn't take any damage in either of those games leading up to that point.

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I mean, the hardest the hardest route in the bracket looks like if you are that eight
or nine seed right now and you'd have to go through an Oregon and then you'd have to,
you know, go through Ohio State potentially.
So like just out from Georgia's perspective where they would play Tennessee again, hard

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to beat a team twice, then they'd go have to play the number one team in the country.
Then they'd have to go play Ohio State.
Then they have to play the national championship.
That's a gauntlet.
And I don't think they get through it.
I don't think they get through it because like I cannot trust Carson Beck to play that
good for three games against those three teams.

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I don't think he's going to have one.
I don't think he's going to have one.
Yeah.
There's a single team in college football this year that would be able to go through
that.
But no, you know, from, you know, if we're going to talk specifically about Georgia,
they're the most prepared team to go through that because I mean, they've had to play Alabama,
Texas, Florida, Ole Miss, Tennessee, and all the other SEC teams they've had to play.

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So as to what I've, you know, if you take an Arizona State and say, Hey, Arizona State,
you got to go play Tennessee, then you got to play Oregon, then you got to play Ohio
State, then you got to go play say Notre Dame.
Good luck now when all you've played all season, your hardest opponent you face is BYU.

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There's no way.
No.
Okay.
Let's, all right, go ahead and close it out.
We'll, we're over an hour in, so we, and we still got to do the preview.
Before we move on, let's make sure we do team of the week, dog of the week, disappointment
of the week.

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And I'll have it, I'm going to have a question at after disappointment of the week because
I know who all of our disappointments are.
I'm going to have a follow up question.
The team of the week I'm going to start Ohio State is mine.
I just think that was a statement when the way they blew them out and really established
themselves as I mean, it was just give us your best shot.
We'll see if you guys belong in the big 10 and they kind of showed them what was up.

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So I thought that was a good win for them against.
I thought was a pretty good team, but might leave a little to be desired.
Mine, you might call me a homework because I'm doing it two weeks in a row in Florida
Gators.
Yeah, being a top 10 team, basically ending their season.
You're welcome Georgia fans.
We got them out.

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Yeah, it's Florida.
Like they were just, we're just the best six and five team in the country.
You had them winning three games this season now.
Look at them now.
We're bowling.
We're bowling.
I was, see, I have Oklahoma, but I have slash Florida because I am a Georgia fan.

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And like Will said, they ended old Mrs. season pretty much Oklahoma ended Alabama season.
Georgia was on the fringe outside looking in almost and now both sitting pretty.
Yeah.
Oklahoma and Florida came through in the clutch and now we have a chance as a Georgia fan
to go win an SEC championship and get a high.

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I think it helped Tennessee the most because they were very seriously on the fringe and
now they're basically locked in because they're not going to make the SEC championship, but
they're going to go 10 and two.
But Tennessee has, they didn't have the resume.
Zero chance to get in unless what happened, even if even if Florida loses and Oklahoma
still wins or vice versa, Tennessee still out.

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Yeah.
They had the worst resume.
So this was the only way they could get in pretty much.
Dog of the week, Kyle McCourt.
I think this is a second time I've nominated him as dog of the week, 37 of 47, 470 yards
passing, a couple touchdowns and a rushing touchdown, which to me is epic because he

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doesn't run.
So the fact that he did that as well, that's probably the game of his life.
That's hard.
Mine, Bryce Thornton, DB for Florida.
He not only had the pick in the end zone towards the end of the game, then also Jackson Dart
throws a pick to him and then like it was an incomplete pass because it was a tough catch.

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The very next play.
He catches another pick from Jackson Dart.
You have to see it.
It was massive.
Yeah, that's massive.
I mean, I really like out of all the SEC teams, it sucks because out of all the SEC teams,
I wanted probably Ole Miss to do the best because I hate Bama, Georgia, Tennessee, all

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of them.
But we kind of ended their season.
But I mean, like I'm always going to root for Florida.
Like I can't like not.
Is the SEC East back?
Maybe.
I don't think they ever left, but the SEC West was always better.
So yeah, I'll say my dog of the week is Jackson Arnold because he totally flipped the script

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and said, Jaylen Milrow, I'm going to do what you do a lot of and that's run the football,
not throw the football.
Jackson Arnold went nine for 11 throwing the football.
So efficient.
Can't win again.
11.
And he had 25 carries for 131 yards.
No pings.

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So impressive day.
And it's, you know, he's my dog of the week, more so because Oklahoma's they've been struggling
with identity.
He's been battling injury on and off in the season.
They Oklahoma actually threw their freshman quarter back in the backup to start a few games
just almost on like, you know, position battle.

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And they threw Jackson Arnold back in against a really, really good defense, supposedly
a really, really good defense.
And he did what everybody in America least expected.
So and he did pretty dang good at it.
So it was awesome to watch.
All right.
So for disappointment of the week, I've got Texas A&M for obvious reasons.

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Will you have?
I wrote down Ole Miss, but I'm going to switch it.
Okay.
I literally got on the train last week and then they sell Colorado.
Fact.
I was, I was just got on the train was like, I put them in my bracket.

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Everything I was like, I'm a believer in Colorado now.
That's the sleeper.
Then they lose Kansas.
I'm like, are you kidding me?
I just got on.
So true.
They are.
They literally are the big 12 Ole Miss and Kansas is the big 12 Florida.
So yep, that's correct.
Brandon, who was yours?
I have Alabama for obvious reasons.
They were sitting pretty, even though they battled adversity against Tennessee and Vanderbilt.

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You can't have this very, very bad loss.
Milrow had seven yards running only and he threw three interceptions and he had a bad
game.
He was only 11 for 26.
So even if those pigs aren't pigs, he's still only 14 for 26.
So that's terrible to see.
I think the script is out on him.

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If you can stop his running ability, it's tough for them to win football games and be
very productive on offense.
So.
Okay.
So real quick, Ole Miss, Alabama, Texas A&M, which loss was the worst?
I say it would have to be Alabama because I think they were more so in the driver's
seat with, you know, they were going to, they were in line.

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I think we talked about how everything shaped up.
If everybody was tied, how it would have been Texas versus Alabama in the SEC championship.
And Alabama can very, I would have thought last week that Alabama could have easily
beat Texas in the SEC championship.
We would have easily seen a bi-week from Alabama leading into the playoff.

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And it would have been typical.
Another Alabama is waltzing into the championship game again with new coach.
And it's just, everybody's just bandwagoning Alabama.
So I hated that.
I love seeing them lose.
I think that was the worst loss because they're supposed to be a top 10 team in the country
and they only put up three points.

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Yeah, they laid down.
I mean, it was embarrassing.
I think we can all agree that the worst, the like the out of, if we were ranking them,
the third is Ole Miss.
I think we can agree with that.
And I would say Texas A&M because I think Auburn is the worst teams out of them, but

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Texas A&M still has a path.
They can beat Texas when the SEC.
So I'm going to go Alabama as well, strictly because they're done.
Texas A&M still win the SEC.
Yeah, true.
If yeah, okay.
So I actually was going to say Texas A&M because of the manner in which they lost and how demoralizing

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that would be.
They still have hope.
And so I think I kind of flip flopped and I think it is Bama too.
I was going to go Texas A&M, but they still have a path and Bama, I mean, that's a bad
loss.
You don't, you can't come back from that.
Not with three, not with three losses.
Like, yeah, the Texas A&M loss is very bad and it only makes it worse with that drop

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because I like.
From the heartbreaking perspective, I was like, that's just a terrible way to go out.
Okay, let's switch gears.
Let's go week 14.
We will start with the games of the week.
Brandon, do you have those down?
Yes, we are ready to run us through those real quick.

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Week 14, rivalry week.
Yes, rivalry.
Why will we?
I know we have Black Friday games, so I'm not sure if any of these are them 100%.
But if we did too late, it would have been.
If we did too late.
I think Georgia Tech is on Black Friday.
Yeah, that was on Friday.

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True.
Awesome.
True.
But let's start off with, I would say less, I mean, I guess I mean, there's still every
game on our game slate is very, very high in the future of college football schedule
that we're looking at with the bracket.
But we're going to start off Miami versus Syracuse.

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Miami is an 11 point favorite.
We're under there as a whopping 67 and a half.
Shout out to Ben Dolf.
We all say it like that.
Yep.
Why will we?
Why will we?
I don't know.
I feel like I have a good knowledge of college football and rivalries and I play college football,

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the video game a lot.
I've done like hundreds of dynasties with different teams.
So I know the schedule and their rivalries.
I was in the dark that Miami's rivalry was Syracuse.
Yeah, I thought, I don't know.
I thought it was like, you know, I know Florida had Florida State.
It should be like UCF or something.

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Yeah, I didn't know it was like all the way up.
It should be Miami, Ohio.
That would be funny.
That would be funny.
That would be a fun one to watch because I mean, Syracuse has been a team we've talked
about on this podcast before they've been a team that has been a scary team to play.

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And I think Miami's been in some really, really close football games where they've had some
things go their way.
They've had some things not go their way.
And it's, you know, there's a lot of hope for Miami right now.
I don't think they look dominant, but I still know they're a really good football team.
So it'll be fun to watch.
I think Syracuse on the other hand would love nothing more than to wreck havoc on Miami

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and really make it tough for them to find themselves in the top 12 at the end.
So that'll be a fun one to watch.
We're going to move on to South Carolina at Clemson.
Huge game.
Huge game because this is playoff implications versus ACC.
There's playoff implications.

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I could still see a somewhat of a path for Clemson to get into the playoff if they win
convincingly.
I could see Clemson sneaking in there somehow.
So somehow I know we got a good votes.
They could get votes.
True.
We got, you know, four eyes, the Norse sellers going out there and he's going to probably
do his thing.

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He doesn't have the goggles on anymore.
Yeah, true.
He needs to put him back on.
But you know, we got Davos Sweeney.
These games at Clemson, I think I read the stat that Clemson leads the rivalry matchup
like 79 to 42 or something like that.
So Clemson has been dominating this matchup for a while, especially in recent years with

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all the success Clemson's had.
And I would say that, you know, downslope Clemson, South Carolina has been on for a
little bit.
So but this year with two really, really good teams that need this football game because
you know, South Carolina is a fringe team.
We'd have to see absolute chaos for them to get in, but there still is a path.
They still have a percentage that's not zero for them to make the college playoff.

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Same thing with Clemson.
So I think this game is going to be a hard fought physical ballgame.
Clemson coming out out of Vegas minus three, three point favorite there.
The over under is 49.
Those two lines are pretty good.
You know, first look at them, I would say that's pretty, it's going to be tough to pick
either way.
But we'll get into it.
What we think we're going to take later on, we're going to move on to Texas first, Texas

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A&M.
This game is whoever wins is going to the SEC championship against Georgia.
Both these teams need this game.
They need the SEC championship.
So I think that raises the stakes already.
Texas A&M coming off a bad loss against Auburn over time.
We talked about that.

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And Texas hasn't played anybody good in things Georgia.
So we're going to see them play a really, I wouldn't say a really, really good football
team, but a football team that's, you know, a lot better than the teams they played all
year.
Texas coming out of the gates as a five point favorite.
The over under is going to be 48 and a half, which I personally think is low.

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And not to mention this game is at Kyle Field, 12th man at, I believe 730.
So it's going to be loud.
It's going to be rock and it's going to be a tough place to play.
All the things you love about college football with playoff implications and conference championship
and implications on the line.
And we get a, we get a freshman quarterback who's been starting in Texas A&M and we get

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the veteran veteran of Quinn Ewers over there at Texas.
So we get, you get a little bit of kind of, you know, that Peyton Manning versus Cam Newton
kind of vibe going into this game where it's the old head versus the new age of college.
So we'll see what happens in that one, but I'm excited for it.
Really, really good slate on rival week week.

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So why have a week?
I'm excited.
Like I said, like we say every week, it's almost like every single week in this college
football season when a lot of people said when the 12th team playoff was implemented
that regular season games will kind of lose their value.
I think every single week it's been up in value and it's been more fun to watch.
So I think there's more.

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I think there's more.
Yeah.
I would have never thought that Florida would be favored by 17 in rival week.
It's against FSU.
Yeah.
Who would have thought coming in is your Florida would be favored by 17.
I bet it like preseason line was FSU by 17.

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Probably.
Yeah.
Probably.
All right.
Let's start with Miami at Syracuse.
I'll go ahead and you know what?
You guys go ahead.
I have Nate's pick.
I'll do his after you guys go.
I would like to speak last.
I've got a decent amount of thoughts on this.
Whoever wants to go.

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I think there's a lot of points.
I saw someone in the chat say Syracuse plus 11.
I didn't mind that.
I think they can.
I think Syracuse can win this game.
But I think this game is going to be 45 to 35 something like that.
Something along those lines.

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Miami is going to be down probably 17 and then come back and win just like they have
been all year somehow.
It is very high.
But over 67 and a half.
I love it.
It's bold.
I love that too.
I think I'm going to go with the safer pick.

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Just like you said Miami is probably going to be down a sizable margin in this game at
some point and then come back and win.
So I see it being close.
If anything at the end I'm going to take Syracuse plus 11.
You get a touchdown field goal and you still hit your bet.
I love that.
And I think Syracuse would love nothing more than to win this game and see their rival struggle.

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As long as they don't throw like what three pick sixes and five picks in total I think
they'll be fine.
They don't do that often.
Only once a year I think is what I heard.
Nate has Miami minus 11.
He did not give a reason scrub.
But that's what he has just so his bet is now on the table.

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Right mind space.
He's probably you know he's in Italy right.
Just drink and wine eating pizza stuff like that.
I mean true.
I would too.
He's like Miami by a hundred.
They're good.
They're ranked in the top 10.
If I was in Italy I'm probably taking Syracuse money line.
True.
All right.

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So with this game there is one for certain Syracuse cannot do anything at all to stop
Miami from scoring.
They cannot.
There is not a single way they can stop Miami from scoring.
So the decision you have to make is does Miami stop Syracuse from scoring.
So that's just the call.

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It's either one thing is for certain Miami scores 40.
The other thing is they last week they played Wake Forest granted Wake Forest much worse
offense than the offense are going to see for Syracuse.
But they had a way to stop Wake Forest from scoring.
They had a bi week where I'd watched some extra film and they made some defensive adjustments

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and Wake Forest only scored 14 points.
So you have a decision to make.
Does that carry over against a better opponent or does Syracuse find a way to score and make
it a shootout.
I personally have it being a shootout.
Syracuse is a very tough place to play historically.
Those are the things Syracuse has lost by no more than two points at home at any point

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this season.
Indoor stadium.
All of their.
All of their.
All of their team so they have one loss at home and it's by two points on the road Miami
has not beaten any team by more than seven points.
So I put both of these things together regardless of how it goes.
I think Syracuse covers this game.
And I think they make it closer than what most people would think.

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So Syracuse plus 11.
I like it.
Let's go.
We'll do Texas Texas A&M last.
So South Carolina at Clemson.
Brandon, what do you have here?
I am going to take South Carolina plus three.
Simply because I think they're a very hot team right now.

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I think they, you know, we saw Clemson play SCC opponent way back in week one when they
played Georgia and they got absolutely slaughtered.
But I still see Clemson being a really good football team too.
Phil Moffa, really good running back.
They're a really hot team right now too, even though I would say the record is obviously

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not what they would want it to be.
They're a really good football team.
Like I scroll through some of the, like, you know, you see these college football edits
on Twitter, TikTok, social media pages, and there's a bunch of fans that comment in the
post or whatever.
So every time I go on one, I see like all these Clemson fans are saying, you know, even

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if we lose, even if we don't make the playoffs, this is a fun team to watch.
They're extremely proud of them.
And that takes a lot because I know if Georgia was, you know, on fringe and you guys even
see me on this podcast, when Georgia goes out and has a performance like they did against
Ole Miss, I'm pissed.
I don't want anything to do with that team for a week or so until they turn it around.

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So I mean, Clemson veteran players, really, really good defense as always, but South Carolina,
I just think they're really hot.
I think this season has prepared them more so for this game, and I think sellers, if
he plays how he's capable of, I still think South Carolina is a top 12 team in the country.
If sellers plays like he's capable of and the defense shows up and Rocket Sanders runs

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the football like he knows how to.
So I'm going to go with South Carolina plus three.
I think they can win the football game.
If they don't win the football game, I see this game being one or lost with a last second
field goal to take the lead.
So plus three, plus potential there.
That's my safe bet, even though I think South Carolina money line would be pretty fun.

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I thought me and Brandon were genuinely going to be on the same page here, and we kind of
are.
South Carolina one line.
I'm taking it.
I'm going with it.
I genuinely think they win this game.
Because standings wise, I'm second overall, right?
Yep.
So I need this safe pick.
If I was like, yes.

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So okay, before we make it to say Nate took the money line, South Carolina money line,
and he's got the game.
Yeah.
So I feel like for your advantage, you go with the cover.
He can't Clemson fan right now.
We just want the game to really, really, really just make it tight.
Make it tight.
Really?
I think sometime like maybe for next year, we got to do something where it's like instead

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of like taking like if we take money line, it's like one and a half wins or something
like that instead of like one wins something like that.
So it gives you an incentive to take a money line instead of a spread.
More risk.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm going straight up South Carolina money line.
I think they win this game.
And I genuinely think they win by double digits going on the record.

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Double digits win.
I'm also going plus three for safety purposes.
But before this was a game of the week, this was going to be my plus money play with South
Carolina money line.
So, but for the purposes of this, I'll just do the, I'll play the safe bet.

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I think South Carolina wins this game by 10 points.
And I mean, hey, Klubnik's been around, he's been around for a long time.
You know what I mean?
Clemson played the Citadel last weekend and they gave up 288 yards on the ground against
the Citadel.
South Carolina almost lost to the Citadel way earlier in the season.

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Oh, so there's something to it.
There's something to it.
But both schools did struggle.
Both schools did struggle.
I'll find the correct, I'll find the exact score, but I know that happened for a fact.
What did it only like, it was like 24-14 or something like that.
It was something like they didn't score that well.
So what I'm thinking is South Carolina doesn't have like the greatest run game in the land.

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But it's, it's better than the Citadels.
It has to be.
I have a pregame dog of the week prediction in Rocket Sanders.
Pregame, I think Rocket's gonna, he's gonna go off.
On the offensive side for Clemson, the left side of their offensive line is completely
banged up.
South Carolina has a solid pass rush.

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It's gonna be trouble.
He's not gonna be able, Kay is gonna have trouble getting the ball out on time.
Any runs to the weak side are not gonna work.
There is no matchup advantages for Clemson at all.
South Carolina will win this game.
I'm taking the plus three for South Carolina.
I love that.
And Nate also, Nate took the money line.
So just make sure if I didn't, I said that right.

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All right.
Last one, Texas and Texas A&M.
Whoever wants to go, let me look up and see what Nate had.
I got you.
Sorry.
Go ahead.
That was, that was bad football knowledge.
It was Old Dominion.
South Carolina only beat 23 to 19.
I remember there being a game earlier this year or something like that.

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But uh, yeah.
It's on me.
Citadel, Old Dominion, same colors.
Get your ball knowledge.
The scheme is similar.
Tyler Pastronickie ball knowledge.
You gotta be up there.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We're gonna make it big.
Texas versus Texas A&M.
I don't think Texas A&M has the offense to keep up because I'd like, yes, they scored

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41 on Auburn.
It's Auburn.
Um, I don't think Marcel Reed either plays like the second coming of Jesus Christ or
he plays like, a little bit of inconsistency or like Dewan Mathis.
If you guys know who that is.
This is, the names you're pulling today.

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Great pull.
Yeah.
He has no in between.
So I'm gonna bet on the bad side and go with Texas minus five.
I think it's kind of low.
I mean, like this game could be close and they wouldn't buy a touchdown.
So I'm gonna go Texas minus five.

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Um, Brandon, go ahead and go.
I gotta find something for Nate here.
Yeah, I think will's kind of spot on.
It's almost like ever since that Texas A&M versus South Carolina game, Marcel Reed
has not been the same guy.
Um, I struggle making this pick here because, you know, it is back and forth because Texas

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hasn't played a lot of talent all season.
Like really the only time we saw him play talent was against Georgia and they got absolutely
ran out of the water.
And that's solely because I think Georgia's defense really stepped up that day and Texas
A&M's been known at times to have a really, really good defense and get out for the quarterback.
So what we see when Quinn Ewers has pressure is he turns into a very, very average, um,

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pocket presence where he can't deliver accurate footballs.
So I would say Texas minus five is smart.
I could easily see them winning by a touchdown, especially after Texas A&M's bad loss last
week.
But to me, Texas A&M needs this game a lot more.

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So I feel like what Cam was almost saying about Miami versus Syracuse is I see Texas
scoring, let's say close to 30 points this game.
If Auburn can do it, Texas can do it against Texas A&M defense.
On the flip side, when you have Marcel Reed, mobile quarterback can do both if he plays

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well, which will be tough to play well against this good of a defense that he probably hasn't
seen a lot of this caliber this season, especially being a freshman.
I think he's still a very good playmaker, but he's got to come to play Saturday.
I see this turning into a shootout and I see 48 and a half being pretty low for this game.
So on the safe side of things where I still see Texas possibly running away with it at

(01:36:15):
times, I'm going to go over 48 and a half because I can easily see this game at least
being like, you know, if it's just tied, say, what 28 to 28 at one point, we already hit
the over.
And I think that's very, very doable.
But let's say like the end of the third quarter, I think the score could easily be there.
So 48 and a half does seem very low.

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Yeah.
Seems very low.
I wrote that down.
Nate took the Texas A&M cover.
Fair.
I'm with him.
I also wrote down the over, but I'm going to go with the cover.
So I've had this game penciled in for a couple of weeks now.
Y'all have heard me say Texas A&M is going to win this game.

(01:36:59):
I'm generally not someone that changes my mind even when like proof is like presented
in front of me.
The Texas A&M win seems a lot less likely to me than it did a few weeks ago.
But they got a few things going for them.
I think because of like the desperation that Texas A&M has, I think the game should be

(01:37:22):
close.
They know their season's kind of on the line with it.
Texas A&M has also won the last six games on senior day that they have played.
So there's some history there.
They generally play well on senior day.
I also think Texas can lose this game and still be okay.
I think they can like still sneak into the playoff even if they lose this game.

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So again, the desperation factor leads me towards Texas A&M covering this.
I don't think they win this game anymore, but I think it's competitive.
So Texas A&M plus six.
Yeah, this is one of those where anything you pick to me feels like a pretty decent
bit.
You can make it make sense.

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Yeah, you can make it make sense, especially with like Texas A&M and like the level of
variance to their play, like the ups, the highs of the highs and the lows of the lows.
You really don't know what version, particularly the quarterback read.
Like you don't know what you're going to get.
And if he has one of those days where he shows out and can't be stopped, they have every
chance to win this game.
It really just depends on him.

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To me, if I had to pick a winner, I would pick Texas solely because the experience from
players like you got Quinn Ewers, Isaiah Bond, and that's pretty much a lot of their
offense.
And those guys, I think I would too now.
So yeah, I think I would too.
But I think it will be competitive at the very least.

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Before we move to toilet bowl, I asked the chat what their plays of the week were.
Someone said Oregon State plus 19.
That's a deep cut.
Oregon State versus Boise State spreads 19 over under 57 and a half.
What do you guys got on this one?
No explanation needed.
I like it.
Oregon State plus 19.

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I like the cover.
That's a lot of points.
That's a lot of points.
Boise State hasn't looked that good the last few weeks.
I feel like they've been down a little bit.
Genty's getting a little banged up.
You see him kind of coming out for a few plays.
He's got like an ankle thing going on.
I can definitely see the cover for Oregon State.
With Genty, they do run the ball a lot, which takes a lot of time.
So it's hard to blow opponents out.
So yeah.

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With the running, I'm going to take the under 57 and a half.
I like that too.
Just kind of go with it.
I like that too.
But yeah, someone asked him, can you go over your picks of the week again?
Didn't get it.
So I think, so everyone run through what their picks for the games of the week were.

(01:39:52):
Mine were South Carolina Moneyline versus Notre Dame, or not Notre Dame.
Where am I going with that?
Clemson plus 135.
Texas versus Texas A&M.
Texas minus five versus Texas A&M.
And then Miami versus Syracuse over 67 and a half.

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South Carolina Clemson, South Carolina plus three.
Texas, Texas A&M.
I have Texas A&M plus six.
Everyone's covering.
Everyone's covering.
Syracuse and Miami Syracuse plus 11.
I have Syracuse plus 11 versus Miami.
South Carolina plus three against Clemson.

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And I have the under 48 and a half.
Texas takes the same A&M.
All right.
We ready to 20 minutes.
Yeah.
Let's move on to toilet bowl.
Yeah.
Missouri minus three as well.
Who's Missouri?
Yeah.
They said that in the chat.
Who's Missouri?
Yeah.
I think it's Arkansas.

(01:40:58):
Arkansas, I believe.
Bad pick.
I got that as one of mine in the SEC.
Missouri is fraudulent.
Absolutely.
They're a top 50 team.
Any others before we move on?
No, I think we're good.
Cool.
All right.
Toilet bowl.
Sad we don't have Nate here.

(01:41:19):
He would love this one.
Southern Miss at Troy.
He loves Troy.
For those of you who don't know, Nate is a massive Troy fan.
This is his favorite team, like even more so than Alabama.
Both teams kind of having a down season.
Troy was pretty good last year by, you know, group of five standards.
So they're, what are they, three and eight now?

(01:41:41):
And I believe Southern Miss has one win.
So battle of Titans here.
Troy is favored by 17 and a half points.
The over under, I have it at 48 and a half unless it has moved since then.
Was that 49 when I checked, but I mean, 48 and a half, 49 same thing.
We'll go with it.
We'll go with it.

(01:42:02):
48 and a half.
The line still the same 17 and a half.
Yeah.
Good deal.
What do you guys have?
Let me look up what Nate's got.
First off, just going, they said, Andy's Carolina's Nate's favorite team.
Yes it is.
Yeah.
Shout out.
I think he's got his favorite quarterback.
Jake Garcia.
I wonder how many pixies out on the year.

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And of course, appreciate the picks, the great picks compliment.
Really try as hard as we can.
Southern Miss versus Troy.
I am actually going to go the over 48 and a half.
You two.
Two words.
Fire.
Work.
Fireworks.

(01:42:43):
I wrote it down.
I wrote it down.
Fireworks.
I worked so, so bad.
That's so funny.
Yeah, I'm running it back.
I'm going to go over 48 and a half.
I mean, like, I think Troy will probably cover this game, but I think it's like a 45, like
17 game, something like that.

(01:43:06):
Yep.
I also have the over 48 and a half.
I think it's going to be an offensive showcase between these two Titans.
Brandon, what do you have?
First of all, shout out.
Jake Garcia.
I don't know if he got hurt or if he got pinched.
He hasn't played since October 5th.
He probably got pinched.
Probably got pinched.
Yeah, he got pinched for sure.

(01:43:27):
He played in six games this season.
He stopped his interception.
He was at 12 interceptions through six games.
Yeah, probably no longer the leader.
I think he had like 12 with like four games.
So, I mean, like, the last two games, zero picks.
We're trying it up.
But I have Troy covering.
I forgot the line.

(01:43:48):
17 and a half.
They're covering that.
All right, hold on.
Me.
I've heard for a year how good of a football program Troy has.
Now, I don't know if they're in Alabama.
Give me Troy.
He's putting in the war.
They're so good that there's three and eight.
Okay.
Well, I have some bad news, some bad news for Nate.

(01:44:11):
He did not put a play in for this game, which means I'm going to put one in for him.
Southern Mississippi Moneyline plus 625.
Hey, I think we...
Brent Forbes, Southern Missalum.
I think we all know.
He's going to have the cover.
I think we all know Nate would go Troy cover.
So we'll put the Troy cover in for him.

(01:44:33):
Yeah, put the Troy cover in for him.
But no, he didn't put one in.
So that's funny.
That would be hilarious.
Oh, I thought that's what you wrote down.
We're going to individual plays.
Yep, individual plays.
Will do me a favor and do yours first.
I got to pull Nate's up.
Individual plays.
I know Cam said USC is winning.

(01:44:54):
Fuck that.
They're winning the football game.
Lock of the week.
Notre Dame minus seven versus USC.
That's your lock?
Lock of the week.
No.
I'm doing...
You don't want to lose your lock, Will.
I always lose my lock.
Yeah, lock of the week.
Notre Dame minus seven.
USC is just not a good football team.

(01:45:15):
I don't know how to say it.
They're just not.
Remember when Brandon said Miller Moss was going to be the first on draft pick?
No, he got benched.
Who would they be earlier in the season?
LSU.
Oh, yeah.
LSU.
He was good.
Then...
Yeah, he was good for the first like three weeks and then he started up after that.

(01:45:36):
He's got to be hurt.
Yeah.
I think he will be fine.
I think he will be fine.
I think he's just got to develop.
He was young, yeah.
Then plus money play of the week.
Minnesota Moneyline versus Wisconsin.
It was plus 120 when I saw it, or plus 110, something like that.
And I saw the way down to even.
But still, nonetheless, plus money.

(01:45:58):
Plus 100 versus Wisconsin.
Minnesota has been playing some good ball recently.
And I think Wisconsin is kind of trending downward.
So yeah, I got them.
Then Illinois minus seven versus Northwestern.
I don't know if you guys saw the Illinois versus Rutgers game last week.
Completely pissed me off.
I had Rutgers Moneyline and they were at 31.30.

(01:46:21):
And then Illinois scored a 40 yard touchdown.
We'll set the scene here.
Okay.
It's 31.30.
Illinois is somewhere in kind of field goal range.
And they kick it and it misses easily.
But Rutgers called timeout and the kicker.

(01:46:44):
They're like, okay, this isn't getting anywhere close.
Then Illinois runs a nice little like 10, 15 yard cross.
Homeboy just takes it all the way to the house.
Oh my God.
And scores.
Yeah.
I had Rutgers Moneyline.
It was plus money and it was perfect.

(01:47:05):
And then I was lining up for you.
And they sold.
But yeah, I'm going to go to Illinois minus seven versus Northwestern.
Northwestern just isn't a good football team.
And Illinois is coming off a pretty, I wouldn't say like decent win, but like they're, it's
a like compared to like a heartbreaking loss.
It's that for a win.
I don't know what the word would be for that.

(01:47:28):
Like it's it lifts their spirit that they found a way to want win a game on the last
play.
I gotcha.
So yeah, I got Illinois minus seven versus Northwestern.
Okay.
All right.
Nate has Kansas minus one and a half versus Baylor fighting for bowl eligibility.

(01:47:49):
Makes sense.
TCU versus Cincinnati over 58 and a half points.
No defense in this game.
He can't see plus money on this last one.
So he wants to buy Texas Tech up.
They're at minus three, I believe.
So probably buy it up to minus four versus West Virginia.
So let's say Texas Tech minus four versus West Virginia.

(01:48:12):
It should be right around even if he does that and that'll be fine.
So those are his three.
Mine for the ACC.
We're going to start with Georgia Tech at Georgia.
The line is at like minus, it was at minus 20.
I think it's at like minus 19.
Something like that.
I think this is like a classic look ahead spot for Georgia.

(01:48:34):
I think they know they will do enough to win regardless.
And I think Georgia Tech, as far as like meaningful games, this is like their Super Bowl until
you know, they're already bowl eligible.
This is their game.
I think they had a look ahead game at NC State and this is the one they really want.
I'm not going to do the cover for the full game, but I am going to do Georgia Tech first

(01:48:57):
half plus 10 and a half is what it was at.
First half plus 10 and a half.
Georgia is generally a second half team anyways.
So I would anticipate it being close for at least half the game.
Boston College is my plus money play.
Boston College versus Pittsburgh.
These are two teams heading in completely different directions.

(01:49:20):
So I'm buying up Boston College's cover.
I have Boston College minus five and a half.
That is an even money.
Boston College playing really good football.
Pittsburgh is on their fourth string quarterback.
That is generally not conducive to success.
So we're going to go Boston College covering minus five and a half.
The last one I'm going to do, I was going to do Florida and Florida State, but the line

(01:49:43):
got a little too high for me.
Just in case some craziness happens.
I'm going to switch it up and I'm going to go to the NC State, North Carolina game and
I'm going to go over 55 points.
That is at minus 120.
I actually really like 55.
I think this is like a 34, 31 game.

(01:50:03):
NC State fighting for bowl eligibility.
North Carolina, this might be the last game with Mac Brown as the head coach.
So a lot of like emotions going into this one.
I think this will be hard fought.
I think it'll be close.
Neither team plays good defense.
So I've got over 55 and those are my three.
I'm going to start with my plus money play of the week.

(01:50:25):
Going back to the chat when we got the Missouri minus three comment.
My plus money play of the week is actually going to be Arkansas money line over Missouri.
Let's go.
Simply because.
Fraudulent.
Missouri is a fraudulent football team one.
They have zero, nothing to play for.
They ready cook.
He's already looking to the NFL draft.

(01:50:45):
He's worried about that.
He might go undrafted.
True.
Arkansas is a frisky team.
I know they've lost to some really good SEC teams, but they've also had some surprising
wins and against really good teams.
They kept it close.
So Taylor Green is a frisky quarterback, frisky dual threat quarterback that likes to throw

(01:51:05):
a legs to run.
He runs all over the place.
He's been dogged the week a few times, but I just think Arkansas.
This game means more to them than it does Missouri.
I think they want this win like more so.
I mean, they have nothing to really play for anyways, but to win this game at the end of
the season gives them something almost to build on for next season.

(01:51:26):
There as Missouri is kind of looking at what a lot of people consider a rebuild year where
there's nothing really going for them.
A lot of their players are going to the draft like bird in and cook.
He might, you know, get a few draft looks.
So we'll see, but it's at plus 130.
So might as well take it for the values.
The plus 20 play.
We're going to move on to a very scary one, but I don't know why I'm going to take it,

(01:51:51):
but I think they're going to come back and have a bounce back week.
I think Alabama plays a home game against Auburn.
The line is 11 and a half.
I actually liked them to win by two touchdowns.
I know they lost.
Okay.
I know there's really no hope for them getting into the playoff anymore.
The only hope that they would have is that they beat Auburn by 50 points.

(01:52:16):
And I think Milrow also wants to leave college with a bang.
If this is one of his last games, he's going to play in an Alabama uniform at their home
stadium.
I think the defense shows up a little bit better seeing that Auburn doesn't really have a dual
threat quarterback.
So he can't run the football and he can't really throw the football.
I know they managed to score against Texas A&M, but I think they have a bounce back week

(01:52:40):
and they score a lot of points against Auburn.
I don't see Auburn.
I mean, they did their job already.
They had a huge upset when against, you know, Texas A&M.
If this game were at Auburn, I would highly, highly take Auburn plus 11 in that.
And since this game is at Alabama, I don't see it going any other way than, you know,
Alabama.
The voodoo magic of Jordan Hare.

(01:53:02):
Israel.
But also Peyton, Peyton throwing can throw it a little bit to the other team, but he
can throw it.
Yeah, no, he leaves his hand and goes somewhere else.
Make Garcia bug for a while.
We'll see.
But Cam, funny you say that I have it written down Georgia Georgia Tech being the Georgia

(01:53:22):
fan.
We got to take this.
I had Georgia Tech covering plus 19.
I think I'm going to switch it because I like your plus 10 and a half at halftime pick.
I like that even better.
I think we're on the same page.
They covered last year.
I think Georgia Tech's team is better this year.
Georgia's team is worse than they were last year.
So I think it's being at Tech as well.

(01:53:44):
So home game in Atlanta.
I think you see a lot of Georgia Tech fans show up, which you don't usually get for a
Georgia Georgia Tech matchup in the last four or five years.
So I think that one will be tighter than people are anticipating.
I'll be watching it's Friday game, right?
Yeah, Friday.
Very exciting.
Love that.
Love that.
Brandon, tell the people what they need to do next.

(01:54:07):
So we've had a pretty consistent, I'd say close to 10 viewers throughout both.
We got the 10 today.
Yeah, we got double digits.
We got who's laughing now.
Shout out everybody who was in here.
Shout out all the people in the chat because I know Twitch and YouTube, they set streamer
goals for you to hit.
And one of them is like maintaining a certain amount of people in your chat.

(01:54:30):
Make sure you know, try to get people commenting normally in your chat.
So shout out everybody who's been doing that today.
You're helping us out.
We love it.
We're growing.
We want you guys to be together as we grow and we can prosper.
And I hope you guys all hit the like button, the follow button, the subscribe button, whatever
button there is to hit, hit it, go put the pics in and make some money this weekend.

(01:54:55):
We're all positive on the year.
So we're doing you guys a favor like we say all the time.
We do the work so you don't have to.
So be on the lookout.
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We obviously have the YouTube and the Twitch.
We're going to be on Twitter soon.
So if you're on Twitter, go ahead and start looking up old line sports betting Twitter.

(01:55:15):
Lastly, make sure you guys all have a happy Thanksgiving.
Don't eat too much food, but watch all the football you want to watch.
Make sure you eat too much food because we will be betting on it.
A lot of NFL, I mean, the NFL slate sucks.
So click this.
We got us lions covering, you know, green base covering, whatever, whoever it is they're

(01:55:36):
covering.
But thank you guys for watching.
Stay tuned for next week.
We'll have a plethora of things to talk about after next week when we go and talk about
conference championship week and we are excited for it.
So make sure you guys come back with us.
We should be on our normal Wednesday schedule again next week, probably nine o'clock, 930
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The whole gang will be back together next Wednesday for college football where as Brandon
said, yep, see him soon.
We will be previewing the conference championships.
That's it.

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Thanks.
We will see you guys next time.
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