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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to
Holographic Health Insights, the
podcast where science meetssoul for complete well-being.
Join hosts Rev Anne-Marie Byersand her daughter Rachelle
Gineris as they exploretransformative health approaches
that integrate body, mind andspirit, from energy medicine to
holistic practices.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Ever feel like
something's stuck or out of
alignment in your chest ordigestion, like me?
If so, you might be dealingwith more than just heartburn.
In this episode, Anne-Marie andRochelle explain hiatal hernia
syndrome and how it connects toemotional and physical imbalance
.
Back everyone Skip Monty,co-host slash producer, back in
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the studio with Reverend AnneMarie Byers and Rochelle
Gianaris, owners of HolographicHealth Inc.
Ladies, how's it going?
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Wonderful.
How about you Skip Doing just?
Speaker 2 (00:56):
fine, I'm having a
great day, although, as I said,
I tend to have some problemswith something feeling really
weird in my esophageal area andactually having food get caught
in there too.
So I'm really interested.
We touched a little bit onhiatal hernia syndrome on a past
episode, so I'm really anxiousto ask what exactly is that,
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what is hiatal hernia syndromeand what can be done to address
that.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Well, skip.
This condition is so prevalentthat Dr Maroney wrote a book
called High Hernia Syndrome.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Oh, wow.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
And the front of the
book has a picture of what a
normal stomach looks like onthis end and what it's like, as
it tends to move up into thediaphragm and the rib cage area
and get stuck and get inflamed,and when that happens, it causes
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all kinds of symptoms.
People can deal with belchingor food not digesting or, as you
said, you can feel like youhave a tickling in the throat
digesting.
Or, as you said, you can feellike you have a tickling in the
throat.
Food gets stuck and people canhave the hiccups or vomiting,
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diarrhea, not be able to swallow.
My husband had a really severecase of this and so people can
feel like they're having a heartattack.
They can have headaches, justall kinds of cervical or spinal
pain.
It really runs the gamut ofsymptoms in the body, and we do
have ways of muscle testing forthis and showing people how they
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can correct it themselves.
It involves actually gettingthe stomach back down into its
normal position.
You learn how to do this.
You can do this yourself or, ifyou can't do it yourself, we
have a stomach egg that is madeto help you pull the stomach
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down, and we can teach peoplehow to do that for themselves so
that they don't hurt any of thesurrounding areas or tissues,
and this can be life-changing.
My husband has severe issueswith it, so did Dr Beruti's
daughter, and so both of themwere not able to eat well, had
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all kinds of symptoms.
He was taking a drug for thiswhich did not work, did not help
, and so through.
As Dr Maruti always said,therapy wins Through pulling the
stomach down into its normalposition, making sure not to eat
foods that aggravate thestomach, and then we have a
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product called HHS, which isspecifically for this area that
is really good for the digestionand supporting this area
nutritionally.
So the whole idea of workingwith the body at all is to get
the body resynchronized, whetherthat's getting your spine back
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into alignment, like it needs tobe, or getting the stomach back
in the position it needs to be,then supporting that
nutritionally so that the bodyis in a good and homeostasis, is
in alignment, it has thenutrition it needs to get well
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and stay well, and continuingwith, as Dr Verity said, therapy
wins.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Therapy wins.
Well, exactly how does thatprocedure work to get your
stomach back where it needs tobe?
Is that something you stickdown your throat?
Speaker 3 (04:51):
get your stomach back
where it needs to be.
Is that something you stickdown your throat, or well you?
Have a xiphoid process which isbetween where your ribs come
together there you go, where youreally go together.
You can see here you can feelthat little divot and you don't
want to push on the ribs butwe're actually pushing under
that xiphoid process and downinto the left.
So the stomach we want to pullthe stomach down out of the ribs
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and down to the left and so youcan probably kind of feel if
it's sore in there.
I had it once and didn't reallyrealize it.
Went into the office and DrRudy said you have HHS.
I said oh great, I've beendealing with this with other
people for years and did notrecognize it in myself.
Now I've learned.
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When I feel a little queasy orthings just aren't digesting
well, people can also have panicattacks.
They can feel because thispushes on the vagus nerve, so
they can feel like they'repanicky and you get that stomach
pulled down and everything'scopacetic.
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People feel so much better andI've had several teenagers that
had nausea, had panic attacksand instead of going and getting
Prozac or something like that,parents came and we found that
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this was the root cause of theproblem.
So the earlier you catch it,the sooner you can get relief
and you can see how that couldset up a person for a lifetime
of issues if you don't addressthat properly.
Somebody with panic attacks.
They are having to take a drugfor the rest of their life
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because of panic attacks, havingtrouble digestion, so food's
not getting in and you're notgetting the right nutrition
because you're not getting gooddigestion and it's a vicious
cycle.
So the simple maneuver ofgetting the stomach in place can
alleviate a whole host ofsymptoms.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Well, I'm asking this
like I said, I'm a lay person,
obviously because you stick itdown your throat.
And, by the way, rochelle,thank you for the demonstration
with the bear.
I'm sure everybody watching thisincluding me was doing exactly
what she was describing and whatyou were doing to myself, you
know, at the same time.
But, for instance, I was at awedding this past Saturday and
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was eating chicken and I takesmall bites and it feels like it
gets stuck right here, likeabout here, and it is so painful
and nothing will go down.
Nothing will go down and I haveto jump up and down and try to
get gravity to help me out and Ican't eat another bite or drink
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anything or even salivate.
I mean, it's terrible.
Is that what that is?
Speaker 4 (07:55):
Well, I think part of
the issue is that once you have
something anatomical like thishappen, then your body wants to
go right back to that spot, soit doesn't remember the
appropriate position that itneeds to be in.
So you kind of have to help italong and get it back in that
position, and you may have to dothat.
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I think ann said that,especially with my stepdad, her
husband, that he, she and he hadto work on this for months,
maybe even a year, doing itdaily to get it back into the
right spot, and then eventuallyyour muscles will remember and
the rest of your anatomy willremember where it needs to be
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structurally, so that it doesn'thappen as often.
Anne was kind of describing themaneuver and the best way to do
.
It is like if you lean back atlike a 45 degree angle and then
you can kind of get up justunder your ribs.
So you would start in themiddle and you would kind of
work it down into the left andyou can't really hurt yourself.
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I mean, if you know, obviouslyyou could do some damage if you
were pushing too hard, butusually we don't allow ourselves
to push too hard into our ownbody, so you're just going to
kind of massage it down.
Some people like to use alotion, you know, so their skin
doesn't pull, but you're reallyjust kind of massaging it down
to be in the right position.
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I think it is described in thebook as well.
Um.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
And we have
instructions with our stomach
egg.
We have this egg-shaped pieceof wood that is really designed
to fit in that area and helpgive a little more leverage, and
we have instructions with thatto help people to use that to do
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it themselves, and you know, ifthey can't do it themselves,
you have a family member.
I've shown many couples how todo it themselves and you know,
if they can't do it themselves,you have a family member.
I've shown many couples how todo this on each other, and
that's the whole idea is to makesure you get that stomach
pulled down so that everythingcan flow like it needs to the
energy can flow, food can flow,everything's in the right
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position, and it really soundslike you do have an issue in
that regard.
Make sure, drink plenty of waterto you know, keep that hydrated
, and there may be certain foodsthat your body does not like,
and chicken may be one of them.
So this is something we've hadto work on with my husband.
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He loved clams, but clams didnot love him, or his body did
not love him, so things likethat, grainy things like rice.
So he's mostly vegetarian.
He eats a little bit of fish,but that's all, and because it
just does not work well with hisbody.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Well, to be fair now
I was raving about the shrimp
and grits that they had at thiswedding and I took a big old
bite of a shrimp and I thoughtit went down.
And then I ate a piece ofchicken and maybe the shrimp had
something to do with it andit's a reaction.
I also have an issue where atnight, if I can go to sleep
sitting up I'm good, if I layflat I'm horrible.
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I take some kind of indigestionmedicine that you take every
day.
I can't remember the name of it.
Sometimes I'll go to sleep justfine and if I wake up and move
at all from one side to theother, get up, walk to the
bathroom and come back, thispain comes like it's like
something's shifted and it justhurts really bad.
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I mean, that could be the samething.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
It could be.
Anytime somebody's in pain forany length of time, we suggest
that they see their doctor andmake sure nothing untoward is
going on.
But my husband's doctorrecommended that he elevate the
head of the bed, and so we havedone that for years and that can
help things to flow better downthe esophageal pathway.
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So that's one suggestion foranybody having digestive issues
Elevate the head of your bed andmake sure you drink plenty of
water.
Don't eat things that aggravatethis, and grainy things like
grits and rice and meat that arehard to go down and digest can
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often be culprits.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Couscous.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
Couscous is very
grainy as well.
So grainy as well.
So grainy things seem to be areal issue with people that have
this kind of condition.
Always watch and see how yourbody is reacting to food,
whether it's an allergy orwhether it's something like this
.
If your body doesn't like it,don't go there.
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Avoid it.
Do something else.
There's so many wonderful foodsout there that we can eat.
We don't need to try to eat theones the body does not like.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Gotcha, Gotcha Well.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
I did want to say one
more thing before we wrap up
about hiatal hernia syndrome.
One population that we see thatstruggles with this a lot are
children who were born withPitocin in their system.
So if mom had Pitocin duringlabor and delivery, this could
be a really big issue for thosekiddos.
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So just something for moms tobe aware of.
Or if you know as a child thatyour mom had Pitocin, it's just
something to keep in mind.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Very good it causes,
stomach sprites up, and so those
children usually have thissyndrome, and it may have been
plaguing them since birth.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Wow, well, that's a
lot, but thank you.
I mean, you're helping mepersonally as well, and I'm sure
there's a lot of listeners toothat are in the same boat.
Speaking of that, the book youmentioned do you have those for
sale?
Speaker 3 (13:52):
So, speaking of that,
the book you mentioned, do you
have those for sale?
We certainly do.
Just call the office or go toholographichealthcom and we can
ship one out today.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Awesome, and maybe an
order of some HHS too.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
And stomachache and
stomachache.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Well, ladies, this
has been great and very helpful
and informative for everybody,and thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
And I hope you all
have a great rest of the day.
Thank you, skip, have a greatweekend.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
All right, talk to
you soon.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
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