December 16, 2025 • 25 mins
The True Gifts of Christmas
In this episode of the Home and Marriage Podcast, Lennon and Christal Noland discuss the importance of spending quality time with family, especially during the holidays. They reflect on past Christmas memories and the shift from shopping for toys to more meaningful family moments. The Nolands emphasize three key non-material gifts you can give your children: quality time, sharing your faith, and maintaining a peaceful and joyful demeanor as parents. They also touch on the significance of keeping Christ at the center of Christmas celebrations. The episode concludes with a reminder that the best holiday memories often come from the intangible moments spent together as a family.
00:00 Introduction and Family Time Reflection
00:28 Welcome to the Home and Marriage Podcast
00:49 Christmas Countdown and Shopping Adventures
01:33 Nostalgic Christmas Memories
06:49 The Best Gifts for Kids at Christmas
07:50 The Gift of Time
15:48 The Gift of Faith
19:55 The Gift of Peaceful Parents
24:56 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
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Lennon (00:02):
She was sitting on the couch in the living room, said
Mom and dad.
Hey, I saw this statistic that90% of the time you'll ever
spend with your parents happensbefore you turn 18.
Ugh.
I know es
Christal (00:13):
my heart.
Lennon (00:13):
I know.
Why don't you just come overhere and stab me, daughter.
Christal (00:16):
Right.
So I, I mean, you know, not tobe all sad and weepy and stuff,
but.
I think it's good for us to geta little bit of an idea that,
hey, this is not forever, andthe stage they're in right now
is not forever.
Lennon (00:31):
This is the Home and Marriage Podcast with Lennon and
Christal Noland, where we helpcouples become better at home
and stronger together.
We're husband and wife, parentsand ministers who want God's
best for our home and for yours.
Friends, thank you so much forbeing with us today.
It is the countdown to the mostwonderful day of the year, my
(00:54):
boo, we have 12 days, as youpointed out this morning, 12
days until Christmas.
Christal (00:59):
I know, I cannot believe it.
So if you haven't gotten yourChristmas shopping done.
You gotta do it by now.
Lennon (01:06):
Yeah.
My goal is this year not to bein TJ Maxx on December 23rd or
24th.
Yeah, I'm gonna go to TJ Maxxbefore then.
Christal (01:15):
Good.
And find all the
Lennon (01:16):
good stuff.
Christal (01:17):
Well, I went to TJ Maxx yesterday, speaking of
that, and it was crowded.
All the older ladies were outthat day.
I think they were trying to beatThe rush of the weekend,
Christmas frenzy, you know, so,yeah.
But it was crowded and thoselines were already long.
Lennon (01:33):
Yeah.
I feel like our shopping is somuch different than it used to
be.
For instance, you're at TJ Maxxlooking for things that will
jive with our teenage girls, orlooking for a new item of
clothing for our son.
It's pretty different than thedays of shopping for toys.
Christal (01:49):
Well, you know, when we were younger and the kids
were little.
Our budget was more on the Rossend.
Okay.
So we have graduated to TJ Maxx.
That's right.
Also to, that's we've
Lennon (02:01):
moved up baby
Christal (02:02):
to the departments.
Now, I shop in the.
Makeup and body stuff, and the,I know what the girls like for
certain products there, butyeah, we, I used to be in Ross
shopping for those toys that Icould get 50% cheaper than at
Walmart or somewhere else.
It's a pretty cool deal.
Lennon (02:20):
Now you're, you're feeling a little sentimental
about that transition too.
You, you were saying.
Earlier this week that you kindof missed the, you missed the
toys shopping.
Christal (02:32):
I do.
I loved shopping for toys forthe kids for Christmas.
I don't know, I think it broughtback the kid and me, and so I
just miss going up and downthose target aisles or wherever.
Just, just looking at the toysand thinking, oh, they're gonna
love this.
This would be cool.
I would love to play this withthem.
This would be so fun.
Like I really do miss that.
(02:52):
But hey, one day.
Grandkids will come and I'll getto experience a little of that
again.
Lennon (02:58):
It's gonna happen.
Do you think that by the timegrandkids come, like Elmo will
still be a big deal?
Christal (03:05):
I think so.
Lennon (03:05):
Is Elmo still a big deal?
Christal (03:07):
I, I think so.
I mean, I'm not in that worldanymore watching Sesame Street,
but Sesame Street still going.
I think Elmo's still a thing.
I mean, it's been aroundforever.
My younger brother, when he wasa kid, I mean this is like.
Many years ago.
Elmo was huge then, so I don'tknow.
We'll see.
We'll have to see.
Lennon (03:26):
I remember our oldest daughter's second Christmas and
Elmo.
Elmo, was it?
Oh yeah.
And I can still picture her.
We got her an Elmo, DVD, andshe's opening the gift and she
tears it.
And I'll never forget thewrapping paper tore across
Elmo's face.
So you just saw his littlejoyous redhead looking through
the paper and she just.
(03:47):
Fists clenched with so much joy.
Yells Elmo.
It was so, it was so over thetop.
Christal (03:55):
Yeah.
He's like a movie star to her.
Lennon (03:57):
He was a movie star, but do you remember the other Elmo
gift?
Christal (04:00):
Yeah.
Lennon (04:00):
You know, grandparents, you know their budgets may be
limited whenever they're raisingus.
Christal (04:05):
Mm-hmm.
Lennon (04:06):
As mom and dad, but they will go outta their way for the
grandkids.
Christal (04:10):
Right.
Lennon (04:10):
And so that was the year that Elmo live.
Like a, I don't know if you'dquite call it a little robot.
That's what it seemed like.
A little robot Elmo.
Christal (04:17):
Right.
Lennon (04:18):
And so he had bought that for her.
We planned a big reveal.
We turned on the power button,opened a door, and Elmo almost
as tall as our little girl wasat this point.
Comes walking out of the roomtalking and she lost her mind,
but not in joy.
Christal (04:33):
Not in a good way.
Lennon (04:34):
Absolute terror.
Christal (04:36):
Uh, she was freaking out.
I think that thing was just.
Too real for her.
Yeah.
She didn't know what to do.
Yeah.
Good, good memory there.
So one of the memories I haveof, gifts.
You know, giving kids thesegifts.
And I remember this one nightthat you and I stayed up super
late, well past midnight,putting together IKEA toys.
(04:58):
Do you remember that?
Yes.
The IKEA kitchen, yes.
That you put together.
And I just wanna tell ourlisteners, in our relationship,
the person who enjoys that kindof thing is not you.
It's me.
Lennon (05:11):
It is.
I
Christal (05:11):
put together the IKEA furniture usually,
Lennon (05:13):
and the person who is competent.
At is not me.
It's you.
Christal (05:18):
Well, I, well, it's just it.
It's definitely not, we're notthe stereotype couple with that
I love putting together stuffand furniture and so I just
remember you putting togetherthat kitchen and how.
You probably wanted to say somewords that you didn't need to
say I did because it, I thinkyou put together part of it and
it was wrong and you had to redoit.
(05:39):
I did.
Okay.
Do you remember though, thereaction of our kids that
morning?
Of course we had babies and thenwe had our oldest who was like
three or four, and she saw thatkitchen But didn't register what
it really was.
Lennon (05:52):
No.
No.
And she starts playing withother things she's really
excited about.
And we're saying, honey look,honey look pointing at the big
kitchen.
Yeah.
And she finally looks up andsees it and she's like, cool.
Christal (06:06):
Yeah.
She just turns around to herother little toys that were just
kind of like the cheaper littleI made a doll.
A doll bed blanket and pillow.
And she loved that.
She didn't even look at thekitchen hardly.
Lennon (06:20):
No, she didn't.
She didn't.
Christal (06:22):
It's crazy how you think, man, we're gonna make
this Christmas amazing.
We're gonna spend this moneymaybe more than we did before.
We're gonna spend all this timemaking furniture maybe, or toys
and.
It doesn't go quite the way youplanned.
Lennon (06:38):
It doesn't go quite the way we planned.
And then as we talked about lastweek, sometimes we can put so
much pressure on ourselves to dothings for the holidays that
aren't the important things.
And so that's really what wewant to talk about today is with
kids and Christmas, what are thebest gifts that we can give?
(06:59):
We really wanna talk about threeof them.
And as you might guess, friends,these are not things that you
can, that you need to buy.
And so take encouragement fromthat.
But also I hope that you'll, Ihope that you'll really do us
the honor of giving us a listenhere because what we're going to
tell you, uh, this is a bigdeal.
Christal (07:16):
Yeah, it really is a big deal, and if you started
listening to the podcast,looking for the top gifts this
year for your kids, this is notwhere it, where it is.
So we are gonna talk about giftsthat last, they're not just a in
the moment Christmas 2025 makingthis thing awesome.
This is gonna last for years tocome.
Lennon (07:38):
So the first gift that we have, you can give this no
matter how much you have in thebank account as far as money
goes.
And yet this is a resource thatis not renewable.
You are losing it day by day.
we want you to give your kidsthe gift of time.
That is what they need most and,and really what they will
remember most and want most fromyou is the time that you have to
(08:01):
slow down and to be with them.
Christal (08:03):
Exactly.
Some of my favorite Christmasmemories are really the times we
just are together, whether we'relaughing about something,
drinking some hot cocoa.
Telling stories.
I mean, really that is the bestpart of Christmas because time
off of school, you know, usuallyschools are done, work usually
(08:24):
keeps going, but sometimes youmight have a Christmas break for
work.
It's a gift really to you to getto be together.
Right.
Lennon (08:32):
It doesn't always feel like a gift.
I think sometimes in our minds,unless we're really conscious of
like, this is where the goodstuff is.
You know that song, it'sbeginning to look a lot like
Christmas.
Mm-hmm.
Very famously, one of the versessays, and mom and dad can hardly
wait for school to start again.
Yeah.
Remember that verse?
Yeah.
That I just, that sounded great,didn't it?
Christal (08:53):
You were in tune, honey.
Lennon (08:54):
I was really,
Christal (08:55):
you might've been a little flat, but mostly in tune.
Lennon (08:57):
Standard, typical Lennon.
But no, there, there can be thisdeal where we just want things
to get back to normal.
Let's get these kids back toschool.
Let's go back to work.
But these moments of beingaround the house together and
having time, all these thingswill go away.
Christal (09:13):
Yeah.
Lennon (09:13):
Like the kids won't be at home forever.
Christal (09:16):
Right.
And
Lennon (09:16):
we won't always have the opportunities to make these
moments count.
Christal (09:20):
Yeah.
You have to be intentional.
I think that's the key word, isbe intentional with your time.
Create moments where you aredefinitely gonna be focused in
on hanging out with the kids orbe there for them.
You don't have like a millionthings planned in that moment,
but you're setting aside yourtime to be with them.
And we know we have, our oldestis about to go to college.
(09:41):
Next year
Lennon (09:42):
we are very aware of the clock.
Right now it's,
Christal (09:44):
yeah, it's even more, I feel like more right in front
of us that we can see, whoa,this is, this is ending soon.
She even gave us statistic to usthe other day.
Do you remember that?
Yes.
Statistic.
About 90% of your time with yourparents is before age 18.
(10:05):
Is that, is that correct?
Lennon (10:07):
Yeah.
She said that yesterday she wassitting on the couch in the
living room, said Mom and dad.
Hey, I saw this statistic that90% of the time you'll ever
spend with your parents happensbefore you turn 18.
Ugh.
I know es
Christal (10:18):
my heart.
Lennon (10:19):
I know.
Why don't you just come overhere and stab me, daughter.
Christal (10:22):
Right.
So I, I mean, you know, not tobe all sad and weepy and stuff,
but.
I think it's good for us to geta little bit of an idea that,
hey, this is not forever, andthe stage they're in right now
is not forever.
So if you have kids that are inthe preschool age or the baby
stage or whatever, it's just notgonna be there forever.
And so.
(10:42):
Not to, not to put a guilt tripon anybody, but I do think it's
important that we set aside ourtime and our attention to be
connected with them.
Lennon (10:52):
One of my favorite verses comes from Psalm chapter
90, where it says, teach us tonumber our days carefully so
that we can develop wisdom inour hearts.
If we're not aware that the timewe have with our kids is
passing, we won't use it wisely.
So slow down, spend the timewith your kids, find excuses to
do it.
What are some of your favoriteways to spend time with the kids
(11:14):
around the holidays?
Christal (11:15):
I really like to get a puzzle going.
Not everybody in our family arepuzzle people, but I have a
couple that will come around anddo the puzzle with me.
It's just an excuse to sit anddo something together.
We usually have coffee or hotcocoa.
I love that it's simple, butit's really fun.
One of our kids loves baking.
I am not a big baker person, butshe loves it and I will
(11:39):
encourage her, buy her supplies,hang out with her in a, in the
kitchen while she's baking.
But you know, maybe mom or dad,you guys wanna start cooking
something or baking something sothe kitchen can be a great place
to spend some time together.
What about you?
Anything that sticks out in yourmind that you really love
Lennon (11:56):
I love the movie nights that we have around Christmas
very specifically.
We, we kicked off the seasonwith Elf the other night.
Yeah.
Didn't make it all the waythrough, but we kicked it off
with, with Elf.
We've mentioned before onanother episode.
I think that we love theChristmas Carol, the Jim Carrey
version.
We have that coming up.
Like those are the things that Ithink are important one of the
(12:18):
things every family has tofight.
Though, I realize I'm talkingabout movies, so that is a
screen, but at at least a movieis sharing a screen together.
Christal (12:28):
Yeah.
Lennon (12:28):
Being in a moment together.
One of the things that canreally squander time is if we're
all in the same proximity,scrolling our phones.
Christal (12:36):
Oh, right.
If we're doing that,
Lennon (12:37):
we're missing a moment.
Christal (12:39):
We can be so guilty of that.
I mean, I found myself do thatwhen we're just hanging out,
getting on our phone because ourteenagers have phones too.
They do.
And so.
If we're doing it, they're gonnabe doing it.
But if we say, Hey, what if weput the phones down for this
time?
Let's play a game together.
Let's put our, our phones downfor that,
Lennon (12:56):
yeah.
If that's gonna happen, it's,it's gonna be because we as mom
and dad initiate it.
Christal (13:01):
Yeah.
Lennon (13:02):
Your kids are not gonna say, Hey, I'd like to sit the
iPad down and connect with you.
But they, and yet if you'resaying you wanna spend time with
them, they're very aware of ifyour, if your attention is there
or not.
Christal (13:14):
Right?
Lennon (13:15):
We have a friend, Carrie, do you remember this
story where, when her son waswas small, he's chatting her up
and mom this, mom that talkingand talking and she's going on
about her business and she'slistening and doing stuff the
same time, just kind of uhhuh.
That's good.
And finally he stops and goes,really?
Listen mommy.
I need to see your eyes.
Christal (13:37):
Hmm.
Yeah.
Lennon (13:37):
She was in the room with him, but he knew if, if her
focus was on him or if it wasdivided.
Christal (13:45):
Right.
Lennon (13:46):
Holidays provide an opportunity for focus.
Christal (13:50):
Yeah, they really do.
We wanna be present, uh,emotionally with our kids, not
just physically there.
And so that quality of time isimportant, not just that you're
sitting near each other.
That's great.
But I think it's that qualityelement where you are really
focused and you're really thereand you're present.
(14:11):
Like we said earlier, I thinkthe phone or the devices are the
biggest distraction in our dayright now.
We didn't have that growing up,so if you can put that aside for
a while, I really think thathelps us, be able to focus in on
one another and spend that timetogether and giving them the
gift of time.
Lennon (14:29):
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Christal (15:47):
So let's go onto the second one.
The second gift is the gift ofour faith.
Lennon (15:52):
Yeah, that's right.
Everybody knows this sayingJesus is the what for the
season.
Christal (15:58):
Oh, the reason for the season.
Yeah.
Lennon (15:59):
Jesus is the reason for the season, but that is
something that we need to modelfor our kids.
Otherwise, we'll be busy andwe'll be doing good stuff, but
Jesus won't be anywhere to befound in Christmas.
Kids are kids and they're gonnabe excited about what they're
excited about.
It's up to us as parents to turntheir attention where it needs
(16:22):
to be, and let's have fun withpresence.
Let's watch the movie.
But let's not forget what ishappening here at Christmas.
We are celebrating the entranceof God into the world and so,
don't overlook that.
And I would go so far as to saythis.
Sometimes we, we give all themagic to Santa.
Christal (16:44):
Yeah.
Lennon (16:45):
Instead of to Jesus.
Now we did Santa, we lovedSanta.
I mean, our kind of principlewas we'll do Santa until we have
to lie.
Christal (16:55):
I remember our oldest when she started to figure some
stuff out and she would say,well, what about this mom?
And it got too similar to thepowers that God has being
omnipresent, all this stuff, youknow, and always sees you
Lennon (17:07):
when you're sleeping.
Yeah.
Knows when you're awake.
Christal (17:09):
Yeah.
So we did enjoy Santa for awhile, but there came a point
where I felt like, okay, we'vegotta let you know the truth
because you're getting a littletoo smart for this and we can't
equate this with God and howgreat and real he is.
Right.
You know, the Santa thing ispartly real.
There was a guy, St.
Nicholas, who did this and that.
(17:31):
Yeah.
But yeah, so there came thatpoint where it was just better
to say, this is the truth ofSanta.
But yeah, Santa can't be on thesame level as Jesus for sure.
Lennon (17:43):
No, no.
But he will be unless we talkabout Jesus.
Yeah.
More than we.
More than we talk about Santa.
Christal (17:49):
That's good.
Lennon (17:50):
And so one of the ways that we can do this, there's a
number of ways that we can doit.
I mean, if you have a littlenativity.
In your nativity scene in yourhouse or in your community, take
your children to see that.
Talk about that.
What must that have?
What must that have been like?
I mean, can you imagine thatincorporate the Christian,
(18:12):
Christmas carols into the songsthat you sing for Christmas?
Those are things that matter.
Christal (18:17):
Yeah.
I've seen those.
Nativity sets that you can getthat are like wooden blocks for
little kids too, and you can setthat up in your home and it's
like a toy.
They can play with it, and youcan talk about who the people
are in the nativity set.
They can play with it, but theycan also learn about Jesus.
So I remember this movie that wewatched also, I think it's just
called The Nativity, and it wasa real life drama about that
(18:41):
night Jesus was born.
I really love that movie.
I thought that kind of broughtit to life for our family too.
Lennon (18:47):
Yeah, it was.
It was really well done.
So however you do it.
You, you as a mom and dad,you're smart.
You can figure out what'sappropriate for your kids.
It could be reading theChristmas story together before
or after presents on Christmasmorning, uh, taking time in,
praying before meals to say,Lord, we thank you in this
season for what you've done toredeem the world.
(19:10):
Thank you for the gift of yourson.
Yeah, because he, he is thegreatest gift.
Yeah.
He is.
The reason for this and whatyour kids will experience
growing up through life is whatyou have experienced.
That joy on the holidays cansometimes be really hard to hold
onto whenever the rest of lifewon't cooperate.
Christal (19:29):
Mm-hmm.
Lennon (19:30):
But if you have the love of God.
Proven by the fact that he senthis son into the world.
And you remember when the angelscame to the shepherds in the
field in Luke chapter two, theysaid, we have news of great joy.
That is for everyone.
And that was a big deal, and itstill is a big deal.
So give your kids the gift ofyour faith.
(19:52):
Model it for them, share it withthem.
And then third, the third andlast gift that we want to tell
you that you can give your kidsand you should give your kids is
the gift of a peaceful mom anddad.
Christal (20:05):
Yes.
Having parents that are.
Completely stressed out andfrazzled during Christmas, lost
their joy because maybe theydidn't have the money to spend
on certain things that theywanted to.
And how do I know this?
Because I'm sure me and you havebeen there at moments,
Lennon (20:22):
been there, done that.
Christal (20:23):
Mm-hmm.
But the, the gift of a peacefulparent is so huge.
My Christmases growing up, Iremember just moments in the
living room with my mom and dadand their joy and their peace on
their faces.
Just being able to be togetherand the joy they would have of
them just watching us open ourpresents or talking about the
(20:45):
Lord that was more important theatmosphere of our home.
And so I would encourageparents.
Hey, you know what?
If you've been stressed up tothis point, let let go of some
of that pressure and that worry.
And I even know that we've hadyears where this has happened,
where we've said to the kids,I've said this more than
(21:07):
anybody, but hey kids, we, wemay not have the budget we had
last year to do the Christmasgifts.
Exactly the same.
And they'll come right back atme, say, mom, we don't care.
It's okay.
Like you don't have to say that.
You know?
It's more about we want to betogether, we just wanna have a
good Christmas, and we want youto be peaceful.
(21:28):
They don't wanna see me stressedout and all worried because that
just that infiltrates the home.
Lennon (21:33):
Right?
And the place that you can getpeace above all comes from,
well, it comes from your faith.
Christal (21:39):
Yeah.
Lennon (21:40):
Christmas is the birth of the prince of peace into the
world.
And so, at this time of theyear, are we trusting God for
the present and for the future?
Do we realize there are somethings that we can't control?
Uh, you're, you're not inperfect control of how your
family is acting.
You're not in perfect control ofmaybe the future of your job,
(22:03):
and yet, you know, the one whois.
You serve a God who is overeverything, and he can give us
peace.
And that's important because wecan't give and we can't model
what we don't have.
Christal (22:14):
Yeah, and I really love, we were talking about this
the other day, but I really lovehow the Lord came to such a
humble situation, he didn't comefor all of the wealthy and the,
you know, prestigious ones.
He came for all the low and thehigh, and we, we were talking
about this.
(22:34):
About the shepherds, like theywere not even allowed to go to
certain places because they werevery dirty.
Right?
And so The angels, came to theshepherds and invited them in to
see Jesus.
Lennon (22:47):
They did.
And what's cool is.
They're announcing that God hascome near, you know, born to you
this day is a savior.
And not only is a savior borninto the world in general, but
into the world of the shepherds,they said, go, you're gonna find
him laying in a manger, like inthe same place where you would
feed your sheep.
You are, you're gonna find yoursavior laying there.
(23:08):
So yeah, Jesus entered into thedirtiest of circumstances.
It wasn't well lit.
It wasn't perfectly clean.
It probably wasn't very silentif there were animals around.
And they're essentially in acave.
And yet he came to bring peace.
Christal (23:25):
so mom and dad, if you are stressed out, anxious,
overwhelmed, we encourage you togive that to the Lord because he
is present.
Emmanuel is God with us.
He is in the midst of us, evenin the, the busyness of
Christmas.
He is there with you.
He can take on your burdens thatyou've been carrying, and if you
(23:47):
wanna give a good gift to yourkids this year, give that gift
of.
Them seeing that you trust theLord and them seeing that you
have joy, not because everythingis aligned perfect and
everything's going right, butyou have joy because you have
your hope in Jesus.
And that's gonna rub off onthem.
They're gonna catch that.
I, I just had a talk with Ethanabout his favorite Christmas
(24:11):
toys or the things he got.
I was like, Hey, do you rememberWhat are your favorite Christmas
toys?
And he said, um, honestly, Idon't remember many.
He's like, I don't remember muchabout the exact gifts we got or
had a favorite year.
I just really loved ourChristmases together, and that
really assured me that, okay.
(24:32):
So this was not about toys.
I was telling him this growingup, I don't remember much about
what I got and didn't get.
I remember a few things, but Itwasn't what made Christmas,
Christmas to me.
Lennon (24:44):
Right?
So friends, let us remind youwhat should make Christmas.
Christmas to your kids, yourtime, your faith, your peace.
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Thank you for joining us today on the Home and
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wisdom to help you become betterat home and stronger together.
She was sitting on the couch in the living room, said
Mom and dad.
Hey, I saw this statistic that90% of the time you'll ever
spend with your parents happensbefore you turn 18.
Ugh.
I know es
Christal (00:13):
my heart.
Lennon (00:13):
I know.
Why don't you just come overhere and stab me, daughter.
Christal (00:16):
Right.
So I, I mean, you know, not tobe all sad and weepy and stuff,
but.
I think it's good for us to geta little bit of an idea that,
hey, this is not forever, andthe stage they're in right now
is not forever.
Lennon (00:31):
This is the Home and Marriage Podcast with Lennon and
Christal Noland, where we helpcouples become better at home
and stronger together.
We're husband and wife, parentsand ministers who want God's
best for our home and for yours.
Friends, thank you so much forbeing with us today.
It is the countdown to the mostwonderful day of the year, my
(00:54):
boo, we have 12 days, as youpointed out this morning, 12
days until Christmas.
Christal (00:59):
I know, I cannot believe it.
So if you haven't gotten yourChristmas shopping done.
You gotta do it by now.
Lennon (01:06):
Yeah.
My goal is this year not to bein TJ Maxx on December 23rd or
24th.
Yeah, I'm gonna go to TJ Maxxbefore then.
Christal (01:15):
Good.
And find all the
Lennon (01:16):
good stuff.
Christal (01:17):
Well, I went to TJ Maxx yesterday, speaking of
that, and it was crowded.
All the older ladies were outthat day.
I think they were trying to beatThe rush of the weekend,
Christmas frenzy, you know, so,yeah.
But it was crowded and thoselines were already long.
Lennon (01:33):
Yeah.
I feel like our shopping is somuch different than it used to
be.
For instance, you're at TJ Maxxlooking for things that will
jive with our teenage girls, orlooking for a new item of
clothing for our son.
It's pretty different than thedays of shopping for toys.
Christal (01:49):
Well, you know, when we were younger and the kids
were little.
Our budget was more on the Rossend.
Okay.
So we have graduated to TJ Maxx.
That's right.
Also to, that's we've
Lennon (02:01):
moved up baby
Christal (02:02):
to the departments.
Now, I shop in the.
Makeup and body stuff, and the,I know what the girls like for
certain products there, butyeah, we, I used to be in Ross
shopping for those toys that Icould get 50% cheaper than at
Walmart or somewhere else.
It's a pretty cool deal.
Lennon (02:20):
Now you're, you're feeling a little sentimental
about that transition too.
You, you were saying.
Earlier this week that you kindof missed the, you missed the
toys shopping.
Christal (02:32):
I do.
I loved shopping for toys forthe kids for Christmas.
I don't know, I think it broughtback the kid and me, and so I
just miss going up and downthose target aisles or wherever.
Just, just looking at the toysand thinking, oh, they're gonna
love this.
This would be cool.
I would love to play this withthem.
This would be so fun.
Like I really do miss that.
(02:52):
But hey, one day.
Grandkids will come and I'll getto experience a little of that
again.
Lennon (02:58):
It's gonna happen.
Do you think that by the timegrandkids come, like Elmo will
still be a big deal?
Christal (03:05):
I think so.
Lennon (03:05):
Is Elmo still a big deal?
Christal (03:07):
I, I think so.
I mean, I'm not in that worldanymore watching Sesame Street,
but Sesame Street still going.
I think Elmo's still a thing.
I mean, it's been aroundforever.
My younger brother, when he wasa kid, I mean this is like.
Many years ago.
Elmo was huge then, so I don'tknow.
We'll see.
We'll have to see.
Lennon (03:26):
I remember our oldest daughter's second Christmas and
Elmo.
Elmo, was it?
Oh yeah.
And I can still picture her.
We got her an Elmo, DVD, andshe's opening the gift and she
tears it.
And I'll never forget thewrapping paper tore across
Elmo's face.
So you just saw his littlejoyous redhead looking through
the paper and she just.
(03:47):
Fists clenched with so much joy.
Yells Elmo.
It was so, it was so over thetop.
Christal (03:55):
Yeah.
He's like a movie star to her.
Lennon (03:57):
He was a movie star, but do you remember the other Elmo
gift?
Christal (04:00):
Yeah.
Lennon (04:00):
You know, grandparents, you know their budgets may be
limited whenever they're raisingus.
Christal (04:05):
Mm-hmm.
Lennon (04:06):
As mom and dad, but they will go outta their way for the
grandkids.
Christal (04:10):
Right.
Lennon (04:10):
And so that was the year that Elmo live.
Like a, I don't know if you'dquite call it a little robot.
That's what it seemed like.
A little robot Elmo.
Christal (04:17):
Right.
Lennon (04:18):
And so he had bought that for her.
We planned a big reveal.
We turned on the power button,opened a door, and Elmo almost
as tall as our little girl wasat this point.
Comes walking out of the roomtalking and she lost her mind,
but not in joy.
Christal (04:33):
Not in a good way.
Lennon (04:34):
Absolute terror.
Christal (04:36):
Uh, she was freaking out.
I think that thing was just.
Too real for her.
Yeah.
She didn't know what to do.
Yeah.
Good, good memory there.
So one of the memories I haveof, gifts.
You know, giving kids thesegifts.
And I remember this one nightthat you and I stayed up super
late, well past midnight,putting together IKEA toys.
(04:58):
Do you remember that?
Yes.
The IKEA kitchen, yes.
That you put together.
And I just wanna tell ourlisteners, in our relationship,
the person who enjoys that kindof thing is not you.
It's me.
Lennon (05:11):
It is.
I
Christal (05:11):
put together the IKEA furniture usually,
Lennon (05:13):
and the person who is competent.
At is not me.
It's you.
Christal (05:18):
Well, I, well, it's just it.
It's definitely not, we're notthe stereotype couple with that
I love putting together stuffand furniture and so I just
remember you putting togetherthat kitchen and how.
You probably wanted to say somewords that you didn't need to
say I did because it, I thinkyou put together part of it and
it was wrong and you had to redoit.
(05:39):
I did.
Okay.
Do you remember though, thereaction of our kids that
morning?
Of course we had babies and thenwe had our oldest who was like
three or four, and she saw thatkitchen But didn't register what
it really was.
Lennon (05:52):
No.
No.
And she starts playing withother things she's really
excited about.
And we're saying, honey look,honey look pointing at the big
kitchen.
Yeah.
And she finally looks up andsees it and she's like, cool.
Christal (06:06):
Yeah.
She just turns around to herother little toys that were just
kind of like the cheaper littleI made a doll.
A doll bed blanket and pillow.
And she loved that.
She didn't even look at thekitchen hardly.
Lennon (06:20):
No, she didn't.
She didn't.
Christal (06:22):
It's crazy how you think, man, we're gonna make
this Christmas amazing.
We're gonna spend this moneymaybe more than we did before.
We're gonna spend all this timemaking furniture maybe, or toys
and.
It doesn't go quite the way youplanned.
Lennon (06:38):
It doesn't go quite the way we planned.
And then as we talked about lastweek, sometimes we can put so
much pressure on ourselves to dothings for the holidays that
aren't the important things.
And so that's really what wewant to talk about today is with
kids and Christmas, what are thebest gifts that we can give?
(06:59):
We really wanna talk about threeof them.
And as you might guess, friends,these are not things that you
can, that you need to buy.
And so take encouragement fromthat.
But also I hope that you'll, Ihope that you'll really do us
the honor of giving us a listenhere because what we're going to
tell you, uh, this is a bigdeal.
Christal (07:16):
Yeah, it really is a big deal, and if you started
listening to the podcast,looking for the top gifts this
year for your kids, this is notwhere it, where it is.
So we are gonna talk about giftsthat last, they're not just a in
the moment Christmas 2025 makingthis thing awesome.
This is gonna last for years tocome.
Lennon (07:38):
So the first gift that we have, you can give this no
matter how much you have in thebank account as far as money
goes.
And yet this is a resource thatis not renewable.
You are losing it day by day.
we want you to give your kidsthe gift of time.
That is what they need most and,and really what they will
remember most and want most fromyou is the time that you have to
(08:01):
slow down and to be with them.
Christal (08:03):
Exactly.
Some of my favorite Christmasmemories are really the times we
just are together, whether we'relaughing about something,
drinking some hot cocoa.
Telling stories.
I mean, really that is the bestpart of Christmas because time
off of school, you know, usuallyschools are done, work usually
(08:24):
keeps going, but sometimes youmight have a Christmas break for
work.
It's a gift really to you to getto be together.
Right.
Lennon (08:32):
It doesn't always feel like a gift.
I think sometimes in our minds,unless we're really conscious of
like, this is where the goodstuff is.
You know that song, it'sbeginning to look a lot like
Christmas.
Mm-hmm.
Very famously, one of the versessays, and mom and dad can hardly
wait for school to start again.
Yeah.
Remember that verse?
Yeah.
That I just, that sounded great,didn't it?
Christal (08:53):
You were in tune, honey.
Lennon (08:54):
I was really,
Christal (08:55):
you might've been a little flat, but mostly in tune.
Lennon (08:57):
Standard, typical Lennon.
But no, there, there can be thisdeal where we just want things
to get back to normal.
Let's get these kids back toschool.
Let's go back to work.
But these moments of beingaround the house together and
having time, all these thingswill go away.
Christal (09:13):
Yeah.
Lennon (09:13):
Like the kids won't be at home forever.
Christal (09:16):
Right.
And
Lennon (09:16):
we won't always have the opportunities to make these
moments count.
Christal (09:20):
Yeah.
You have to be intentional.
I think that's the key word, isbe intentional with your time.
Create moments where you aredefinitely gonna be focused in
on hanging out with the kids orbe there for them.
You don't have like a millionthings planned in that moment,
but you're setting aside yourtime to be with them.
And we know we have, our oldestis about to go to college.
(09:41):
Next year
Lennon (09:42):
we are very aware of the clock.
Right now it's,
Christal (09:44):
yeah, it's even more, I feel like more right in front
of us that we can see, whoa,this is, this is ending soon.
She even gave us statistic to usthe other day.
Do you remember that?
Yes.
Statistic.
About 90% of your time with yourparents is before age 18.
(10:05):
Is that, is that correct?
Lennon (10:07):
Yeah.
She said that yesterday she wassitting on the couch in the
living room, said Mom and dad.
Hey, I saw this statistic that90% of the time you'll ever
spend with your parents happensbefore you turn 18.
Ugh.
I know es
Christal (10:18):
my heart.
Lennon (10:19):
I know.
Why don't you just come overhere and stab me, daughter.
Christal (10:22):
Right.
So I, I mean, you know, not tobe all sad and weepy and stuff,
but.
I think it's good for us to geta little bit of an idea that,
hey, this is not forever, andthe stage they're in right now
is not forever.
So if you have kids that are inthe preschool age or the baby
stage or whatever, it's just notgonna be there forever.
And so.
(10:42):
Not to, not to put a guilt tripon anybody, but I do think it's
important that we set aside ourtime and our attention to be
connected with them.
Lennon (10:52):
One of my favorite verses comes from Psalm chapter
90, where it says, teach us tonumber our days carefully so
that we can develop wisdom inour hearts.
If we're not aware that the timewe have with our kids is
passing, we won't use it wisely.
So slow down, spend the timewith your kids, find excuses to
do it.
What are some of your favoriteways to spend time with the kids
(11:14):
around the holidays?
Christal (11:15):
I really like to get a puzzle going.
Not everybody in our family arepuzzle people, but I have a
couple that will come around anddo the puzzle with me.
It's just an excuse to sit anddo something together.
We usually have coffee or hotcocoa.
I love that it's simple, butit's really fun.
One of our kids loves baking.
I am not a big baker person, butshe loves it and I will
(11:39):
encourage her, buy her supplies,hang out with her in a, in the
kitchen while she's baking.
But you know, maybe mom or dad,you guys wanna start cooking
something or baking something sothe kitchen can be a great place
to spend some time together.
What about you?
Anything that sticks out in yourmind that you really love
Lennon (11:56):
I love the movie nights that we have around Christmas
very specifically.
We, we kicked off the seasonwith Elf the other night.
Yeah.
Didn't make it all the waythrough, but we kicked it off
with, with Elf.
We've mentioned before onanother episode.
I think that we love theChristmas Carol, the Jim Carrey
version.
We have that coming up.
Like those are the things that Ithink are important one of the
(12:18):
things every family has tofight.
Though, I realize I'm talkingabout movies, so that is a
screen, but at at least a movieis sharing a screen together.
Christal (12:28):
Yeah.
Lennon (12:28):
Being in a moment together.
One of the things that canreally squander time is if we're
all in the same proximity,scrolling our phones.
Christal (12:36):
Oh, right.
If we're doing that,
Lennon (12:37):
we're missing a moment.
Christal (12:39):
We can be so guilty of that.
I mean, I found myself do thatwhen we're just hanging out,
getting on our phone because ourteenagers have phones too.
They do.
And so.
If we're doing it, they're gonnabe doing it.
But if we say, Hey, what if weput the phones down for this
time?
Let's play a game together.
Let's put our, our phones downfor that,
Lennon (12:56):
yeah.
If that's gonna happen, it's,it's gonna be because we as mom
and dad initiate it.
Christal (13:01):
Yeah.
Lennon (13:02):
Your kids are not gonna say, Hey, I'd like to sit the
iPad down and connect with you.
But they, and yet if you'resaying you wanna spend time with
them, they're very aware of ifyour, if your attention is there
or not.
Christal (13:14):
Right?
Lennon (13:15):
We have a friend, Carrie, do you remember this
story where, when her son waswas small, he's chatting her up
and mom this, mom that talkingand talking and she's going on
about her business and she'slistening and doing stuff the
same time, just kind of uhhuh.
That's good.
And finally he stops and goes,really?
Listen mommy.
I need to see your eyes.
Christal (13:37):
Hmm.
Yeah.
Lennon (13:37):
She was in the room with him, but he knew if, if her
focus was on him or if it wasdivided.
Christal (13:45):
Right.
Lennon (13:46):
Holidays provide an opportunity for focus.
Christal (13:50):
Yeah, they really do.
We wanna be present, uh,emotionally with our kids, not
just physically there.
And so that quality of time isimportant, not just that you're
sitting near each other.
That's great.
But I think it's that qualityelement where you are really
focused and you're really thereand you're present.
(14:11):
Like we said earlier, I thinkthe phone or the devices are the
biggest distraction in our dayright now.
We didn't have that growing up,so if you can put that aside for
a while, I really think thathelps us, be able to focus in on
one another and spend that timetogether and giving them the
gift of time.
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Christal (15:47):
So let's go onto the second one.
The second gift is the gift ofour faith.
Lennon (15:52):
Yeah, that's right.
Everybody knows this sayingJesus is the what for the
season.
Christal (15:58):
Oh, the reason for the season.
Yeah.
Lennon (15:59):
Jesus is the reason for the season, but that is
something that we need to modelfor our kids.
Otherwise, we'll be busy andwe'll be doing good stuff, but
Jesus won't be anywhere to befound in Christmas.
Kids are kids and they're gonnabe excited about what they're
excited about.
It's up to us as parents to turntheir attention where it needs
(16:22):
to be, and let's have fun withpresence.
Let's watch the movie.
But let's not forget what ishappening here at Christmas.
We are celebrating the entranceof God into the world and so,
don't overlook that.
And I would go so far as to saythis.
Sometimes we, we give all themagic to Santa.
Christal (16:44):
Yeah.
Lennon (16:45):
Instead of to Jesus.
Now we did Santa, we lovedSanta.
I mean, our kind of principlewas we'll do Santa until we have
to lie.
Christal (16:55):
I remember our oldest when she started to figure some
stuff out and she would say,well, what about this mom?
And it got too similar to thepowers that God has being
omnipresent, all this stuff, youknow, and always sees you
Lennon (17:07):
when you're sleeping.
Yeah.
Knows when you're awake.
Christal (17:09):
Yeah.
So we did enjoy Santa for awhile, but there came a point
where I felt like, okay, we'vegotta let you know the truth
because you're getting a littletoo smart for this and we can't
equate this with God and howgreat and real he is.
Right.
You know, the Santa thing ispartly real.
There was a guy, St.
Nicholas, who did this and that.
(17:31):
Yeah.
But yeah, so there came thatpoint where it was just better
to say, this is the truth ofSanta.
But yeah, Santa can't be on thesame level as Jesus for sure.
Lennon (17:43):
No, no.
But he will be unless we talkabout Jesus.
Yeah.
More than we.
More than we talk about Santa.
Christal (17:49):
That's good.
Lennon (17:50):
And so one of the ways that we can do this, there's a
number of ways that we can doit.
I mean, if you have a littlenativity.
In your nativity scene in yourhouse or in your community, take
your children to see that.
Talk about that.
What must that have?
What must that have been like?
I mean, can you imagine thatincorporate the Christian,
(18:12):
Christmas carols into the songsthat you sing for Christmas?
Those are things that matter.
Christal (18:17):
Yeah.
I've seen those.
Nativity sets that you can getthat are like wooden blocks for
little kids too, and you can setthat up in your home and it's
like a toy.
They can play with it, and youcan talk about who the people
are in the nativity set.
They can play with it, but theycan also learn about Jesus.
So I remember this movie that wewatched also, I think it's just
called The Nativity, and it wasa real life drama about that
(18:41):
night Jesus was born.
I really love that movie.
I thought that kind of broughtit to life for our family too.
Lennon (18:47):
Yeah, it was.
It was really well done.
So however you do it.
You, you as a mom and dad,you're smart.
You can figure out what'sappropriate for your kids.
It could be reading theChristmas story together before
or after presents on Christmasmorning, uh, taking time in,
praying before meals to say,Lord, we thank you in this
season for what you've done toredeem the world.
(19:10):
Thank you for the gift of yourson.
Yeah, because he, he is thegreatest gift.
Yeah.
He is.
The reason for this and whatyour kids will experience
growing up through life is whatyou have experienced.
That joy on the holidays cansometimes be really hard to hold
onto whenever the rest of lifewon't cooperate.
Christal (19:29):
Mm-hmm.
Lennon (19:30):
But if you have the love of God.
Proven by the fact that he senthis son into the world.
And you remember when the angelscame to the shepherds in the
field in Luke chapter two, theysaid, we have news of great joy.
That is for everyone.
And that was a big deal, and itstill is a big deal.
So give your kids the gift ofyour faith.
(19:52):
Model it for them, share it withthem.
And then third, the third andlast gift that we want to tell
you that you can give your kidsand you should give your kids is
the gift of a peaceful mom anddad.
Christal (20:05):
Yes.
Having parents that are.
Completely stressed out andfrazzled during Christmas, lost
their joy because maybe theydidn't have the money to spend
on certain things that theywanted to.
And how do I know this?
Because I'm sure me and you havebeen there at moments,
Lennon (20:22):
been there, done that.
Christal (20:23):
Mm-hmm.
But the, the gift of a peacefulparent is so huge.
My Christmases growing up, Iremember just moments in the
living room with my mom and dadand their joy and their peace on
their faces.
Just being able to be togetherand the joy they would have of
them just watching us open ourpresents or talking about the
(20:45):
Lord that was more important theatmosphere of our home.
And so I would encourageparents.
Hey, you know what?
If you've been stressed up tothis point, let let go of some
of that pressure and that worry.
And I even know that we've hadyears where this has happened,
where we've said to the kids,I've said this more than
(21:07):
anybody, but hey kids, we, wemay not have the budget we had
last year to do the Christmasgifts.
Exactly the same.
And they'll come right back atme, say, mom, we don't care.
It's okay.
Like you don't have to say that.
You know?
It's more about we want to betogether, we just wanna have a
good Christmas, and we want youto be peaceful.
(21:28):
They don't wanna see me stressedout and all worried because that
just that infiltrates the home.
Lennon (21:33):
Right?
And the place that you can getpeace above all comes from,
well, it comes from your faith.
Christal (21:39):
Yeah.
Lennon (21:40):
Christmas is the birth of the prince of peace into the
world.
And so, at this time of theyear, are we trusting God for
the present and for the future?
Do we realize there are somethings that we can't control?
Uh, you're, you're not inperfect control of how your
family is acting.
You're not in perfect control ofmaybe the future of your job,
(22:03):
and yet, you know, the one whois.
You serve a God who is overeverything, and he can give us
peace.
And that's important because wecan't give and we can't model
what we don't have.
Christal (22:14):
Yeah, and I really love, we were talking about this
the other day, but I really lovehow the Lord came to such a
humble situation, he didn't comefor all of the wealthy and the,
you know, prestigious ones.
He came for all the low and thehigh, and we, we were talking
about this.
(22:34):
About the shepherds, like theywere not even allowed to go to
certain places because they werevery dirty.
Right?
And so The angels, came to theshepherds and invited them in to
see Jesus.
Lennon (22:47):
They did.
And what's cool is.
They're announcing that God hascome near, you know, born to you
this day is a savior.
And not only is a savior borninto the world in general, but
into the world of the shepherds,they said, go, you're gonna find
him laying in a manger, like inthe same place where you would
feed your sheep.
You are, you're gonna find yoursavior laying there.
(23:08):
So yeah, Jesus entered into thedirtiest of circumstances.
It wasn't well lit.
It wasn't perfectly clean.
It probably wasn't very silentif there were animals around.
And they're essentially in acave.
And yet he came to bring peace.
Christal (23:25):
so mom and dad, if you are stressed out, anxious,
overwhelmed, we encourage you togive that to the Lord because he
is present.
Emmanuel is God with us.
He is in the midst of us, evenin the, the busyness of
Christmas.
He is there with you.
He can take on your burdens thatyou've been carrying, and if you
(23:47):
wanna give a good gift to yourkids this year, give that gift
of.
Them seeing that you trust theLord and them seeing that you
have joy, not because everythingis aligned perfect and
everything's going right, butyou have joy because you have
your hope in Jesus.
And that's gonna rub off onthem.
They're gonna catch that.
I, I just had a talk with Ethanabout his favorite Christmas
(24:11):
toys or the things he got.
I was like, Hey, do you rememberWhat are your favorite Christmas
toys?
And he said, um, honestly, Idon't remember many.
He's like, I don't remember muchabout the exact gifts we got or
had a favorite year.
I just really loved ourChristmases together, and that
really assured me that, okay.
(24:32):
So this was not about toys.
I was telling him this growingup, I don't remember much about
what I got and didn't get.
I remember a few things, but Itwasn't what made Christmas,
Christmas to me.
Lennon (24:44):
Right?
So friends, let us remind youwhat should make Christmas.
Christmas to your kids, yourtime, your faith, your peace.
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Christal (25:27):
Thank you for joining us today on the Home and
Marriage Podcast.
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