June 13, 2025 • 58 mins
The boundaries between skating disciplines dissolve in this fascinating conversation with Tency Trosen, a Mexican figure skating champion who brings a unique perspective to the world of skating. From her beginnings as a ballet dancer to becoming a nine-time national champion on ice, Teensy shares the unexpected path that led her to skating excellence.
Growing up in Jalisco, Mexico, Tency trained in what she describes as "the third part of a normal ice rink" – far from ideal conditions that forced her to develop exceptional adaptability. When American skaters complained about ice quality at competitions, her perspective was refreshingly different: "This is ice. It's huge. What else do you want?" This adaptability became her competitive edge.
The conversation reveals fascinating parallels between ballet and figure skating, particularly in showcase and artistic competitions where performance quality and storytelling take precedence over technical jumps. Ballet taught Tency a physical language – specific movements that convey precise meanings – which translated perfectly to artistic skating. Her dedication to mastery is inspiring; she once stayed on the ice from 9AM to 9PM repeating a single spin until perfecting it, declaring "I won't leave the rink until I spin."
Tency's competitive achievements include gold medals at international competitions in Lake Placid, New York, and silver in Canada. She shares valuable psychological insights on handling pre-performance nerves by focusing on a single judge. Now transitioning to inline figure skating, she challenges the notion that ice skating is somehow superior: "Ice helps you fly. The pavement doesn't do anything for you." Her advice to aspiring skaters reflects her competitive mindset: forget about just having fun – if you enter figure skating, you want to win.
Join us for this enlightening discussion about the artistry, psychology, and technical aspects of skating across disciplines. Whether you're an ice skater, inline enthusiast, or simply curious about the mental aspects of athletic performance, Tency's journey offers valuable insights about dedication and the pursuit of excellence.
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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(00:30):
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Speaker 2 (00:39):
Welcome to this week's episode of how do you
skate.
I am your host, sean egan.
Welcome to this week's episodeof how Do you Skate.
I am your host, sean Egan, andsome of you might recognize the
last name from my guest.
Her name is Tinsia Trozen.
We had her husband on earlierthis week, so how are you doing?
Speaker 3 (00:54):
today Good Two skaters married.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Second couple that I've had on.
I had Bonnie Blair and herhusband, david Kruikshank too.
Second couple that I've had onI had Bonnie Blair and her
husband David Kruikshank too, soit's always cool when you can
have two husbands and wives thatare involved in the same sport.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Yeah, that was kind of random, but yes, because I
met so many skaters in my lifeand I didn't look at him as a
skater and go oh, he skates, ohwow, the bald head.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
we just don't look like skaters with bald heads, I
swear so.
So now, when did your wholestate skating start?
How old were you and when wasthe beginning?
Speaker 3 (01:37):
well, I started ballet, so skating for me was
late and also I'm from mexico.
It's not like, and especially,uh, the part I come from there
is jalisco it's not like we havenot even one normalizing.
We have a.
It would be like probably likethe third part of a normalizing
(01:59):
okay so it's not a real ice rinkI should be.
So I start yeah, be real.
Everyone there has to have aextra powers for adapting every
everywhere else.
So I started in a summer course, probably between 13 and 14
(02:22):
okay and.
But I already have all my back,uh, in ballet, so it helps a
little, not much, because, uh,it makes very artistic, very
good performance if you're aballet dancer.
But we're terribly scared oflife, so jumping and everything
(02:43):
like why, but yeah?
Speaker 2 (02:47):
we actually just saw the movie ballerina last night
from the john wick series.
Oh my god.
And just like she kept doingthe thing and you can see just
her toes just being bloodiedfrom being up on her toes and
everything.
Is that like an actual thing,or is it?
Was it just for the movie.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
No, no, totally true.
My first time on Pointe shoes.
Probably a week later all mynails fell, they just leave my
feet.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
That just does not sound.
And it's funny because, likeyou said, it makes you a really
good artistic.
And did you do artistic skatingtoo?
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Yeah, but so I do showcase.
There is a whole differentthing for figure skating.
I have different kind ofprograms, they have different
rules and I also do um, becauseany skater in normal figure
(03:50):
skating after 18 is a old human.
But uh, after 18 you can enterto the abu skating.
There is a whole whole newworld.
Yeah, it's, it's very amazing.
So in our skating there alsoexists artistic skating.
Yeah, but it's not the normalskating, it's a kind of a branch
(04:14):
of a showcase okay so, uh, it's, everything is about your
performance and all the artistic.
It's not about how high can youjump.
It's not about how brave youare to do this super exercise.
It's more about how smooth youcan move.
(04:36):
Okay, and how big of an actoryou are.
Okay, so now was that on icequads or inlines was that on ice
quads or in lines, it was sonice okay nice, in my um, my
couch, cold, the ice cream, umcan you call the glass thing you
(04:57):
put on fish uh, the glass thatwe put up for the um for hockey
no, the glass in your oh, thefish bowl or the aquarium the
aquarium.
Okay, I bring a aquarium becauseit's just a circle surrounded
by glass okay, that makes sense,and you're about to fish just
swimming around yeah, it's likebecause I actually had um a
(05:21):
six-time national champion fromme, mexico, on the show.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
I think his name was Luis Hernandez.
Does that sound familiar?
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (05:36):
he's been alone always, yeah, so I had him on
the show a few weeks ago, Ithink.
Is he a man?
Yeah, I mean, who's going tocompete against you?
For example.
Donovan, it's paradise.
I mean, who's going to competeagainst you?
Yeah, for example, our um likedonovan.
He said like oh, I'm I don'tremember 12 or 11 times national
champion.
I say, of course you're aloneyeah, like 12 times he's been
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alone.
So if you're a man, it'sparadise.
I never have one national alone.
Yeah.
At least I have the smallest Ihave.
It was seven girls.
Okay.
But like in the worldcompetition, in the
international competition it wasone competition was 60 girls.
(06:19):
Oh, wow.
So it's like being a man isparadise.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
So you have it a little easier with competition
when you're a man.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Yeah, because they want men, because there's not
enough men.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Yeah, maybe from the same countries, but it's never,
if you look at the list whenit's unopened, when everyone can
get in the competition.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Yeah, the list of women are like like five
different groups.
The list of men is like oh, onegroup already passed okay
that's.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
That's kind of cool, though to know it's uh, it's
just interesting to see thedifferent skate cultures all
around the world and learn moreabout them, so I always get
excited about that.
So now, have you gotten intoinline, are you?
Because I know you're in theApostle Islands right now?
Are you doing the race thisweekend?
Speaker 3 (07:08):
No, I started to learn like, seriously, more
seriously, inline figure skatingthis year.
Okay.
I started to know the inline,obviously, when I got married.
It's like oh, okay, that's it.
And now, like this year, I sayobviously when I get married
it's like, oh okay, that exists.
And now, like this year, I saywhy not?
(07:29):
Like I'm not like competinglike before that I was competing
like four times each month, soit was crazy.
So now I said I can have alittle more fun.
So it's kind of fun torediscover skating.
Yeah, I learn ice, I know ice,I enjoy it.
(07:50):
I of fun to rediscover skating.
Yeah, I learned ice, I know ice, I enjoy it, I know what to do.
But I also very hard me likeeverything I don't know.
This is not enough.
No, I need more active.
No, I need more spinning yeahin a line.
It's like oh my god, it's new,it doesn't matter if I'm not
perfect, it's new, I juststarted, so I kind of having fun
, even comparing much.
This is me jumping.
(08:10):
I I post that kind of uh stupidthings in instagram like oh,
this is me doing the syndrome onblades and wheels.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
So it's like well, you're married to an expert on
who can set you up properly yeahso now, how far did you go with
figure skating as far as, like,competition wise?
Speaker 3 (08:36):
well, I have nine uh, national championships.
Okay, I am single nationalchampionship.
Okay, I have problems and I didwhat is considered like world
competition in that world.
Okay.
(08:56):
It's not the only world, butyeah.
So I did.
My first time was in Oberstdorf, germany.
That was the no the first time,I think.
Oberstdorf Germany, that wasthe first time I think there
were like 40-something girls andit was fifth place.
It was very good, my first timein a big competition.
(09:16):
My second time I was fourth,then I repeated in Canada and I
got second place.
This is like the.
It's an intern ISUInternational Skating Union
Competitions.
Okay.
So the third one was in Canadaand I had second place, and the
(09:39):
last one was Lake Placid, NewYork, and I have gold everywhere
.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
There you go.
So now going into your firstcompetition, international
competition.
What was your nerves like?
Were you super nervous?
Speaker 3 (09:54):
I'm always nervous.
I don't think there is a way.
Everything I do is about beingjudged for other people.
They judge how you look.
They judge it's not like nobodycares really.
Uh how, uh, I know it's not how.
(10:14):
It's not like how really a spinskater looks.
They care how fast you are yeahbut in figure skating, any kind
like showcase, uh, it's veryimportant, it's highly important
, and how you dress is it's?
Uh, I mean, it's amazinglyimportant, even more important
(10:37):
than normal figure skating okayeverything.
Uh, if we are talking aboutballet, it's just about how you
look all the time.
Yeah.
You have to still be an athlete, still like, do something, not
just look pretty.
So I mean always.
(11:01):
You will always get nervous,but you have to learn.
There is all kind of students.
Everyone have their ownthinking about how to control
that yeah normally get there in.
I enjoy the public, like for me, for example, being in a
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theater and ballet.
There's nothing I enjoy morethan see the public and on ice.
I enjoy acting for the judges.
I want them to look at me and Iwant them to look my face, and
my coach always told me like,choose one of the judges that
you think is a person you feelmore connected with or you feel
(11:47):
more like nice to do something.
Yeah.
And you act for that, just justfor her.
So that's what I normally do,and all my performance is just
for this one human.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Okay, nice.
Now when coming up with youroutfits for skating, like, do
you figure out like what kind ofroutine and what kind of music
and then kind of, correspondyour outfit with that?
Speaker 3 (12:15):
In the past it used to be light showcase and
dramatic showcase.
Okay, no-transcript.
Uh, what is performancecharacter?
(12:37):
And I think it's artistic.
I'm not sure of the right title, the new one but it's about um,
so if you choose to be adramatic skater, obviously, is
that what you're going to do?
Yeah if you choose a character,you have to become that
character.
So it has to be clear for thejudges If I'm charge-traveling,
(13:01):
I have to look like him.
I have to act, walk and movelike him.
Yeah.
And performance.
For example, I have to tell astory to the panel of judges
without talking, so all myperformance they have to
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understand what was the story,what was the problem and when we
finish.
So in the adult screening, theartistic part is a little bit
like showcase.
You have the freedom to choosebe light, dramatic, whatever,
but it has to be a high intenseperformance.
That's what the judges arelooking for, that's what they
(13:44):
award.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
So like the different kinds of tricks or moves I
don't even know what we callthem in figure skating, so it's
almost like it sounds likeshowcases, almost like the
luchadors, where they get outthere with their gimmicks and
then tell the story of whateverfeud they're having on.
But unlike them, you don't havean opponent, so you have to
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tell the story by yourself.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
Yeah, yeah.
And that's why the dresses orthe whatever you are using is so
important and there is rules,like when you are doing
performance like artisticskating, you have to be very
(14:31):
careful what the limits, becausethe limits are the ISU still so
international skating uniondon't want the athletic part to
be lost, they don't want to bejust this super cute show, so
they have limits.
(14:52):
It has to be whatever you canuse to do your performance,
whatever you can use to do yourperformance, but it cannot
interfere with your blades, itcannot sell to the eyes and it
cannot be very naked, very notdecent.
(15:14):
I don't know how to say that.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
I understand what you're saying and I completely
understand it has to bepresentable so kids can watch it
exactly.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
I mean that's for figure skating, but it allows a
little more than the normalfigure skating you normally see
a little bit more like maybe youcan do more um, something on
the head or something more like.
I have one performance that mydress have like wings on the
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down, but nothing that caninterfere my performance.
It just look more beautiful themovements and everything and
improve my performance.
Okay, if you're talking aboutshowcase, you can go literally
to almost whatever place youwant to go.
You can use theater liketheater makeup.
(16:13):
You can use a costume like toesto head.
Yeah, it's a world that most oftoes to head.
Yeah.
It's a world that most of theworld don't know.
It's very fun to see.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
So what do you prefer doing, the showcase or more of
the artistic skating?
Speaker 3 (16:31):
For me the same it's just artistic is like a light
showcase for me.
Okay.
What I love the most, I think,is spotlight and showcase
performance.
A spotlight is a kind ofshowcase.
Okay, use props, so if uh,wherever I can use, hats, fans,
(16:53):
uh, ribbons.
So I really, really enjoyskating like what was the one, I
skate something from Cirque duSoleil, from Coteo, I think.
Okay.
I use a ribbon.
So I was this what is it meme?
And I use a ribbon foreverything.
(17:15):
I don't know how to explain itto like do the whole performance
with the ribbon.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
So, and if people don't understand, it's almost
like the gymnastic ribbons, Ithink, with the stick and the
ribbons half the length, becauseif I use the ones they use,
yeah, I will have problems withmy blades just because it's too
long yes okay, so half the sizethe gymnasts use.
(17:45):
Nice now, with all yourcompeting.
Where is one of your favoriteplaces that you've been that you
got to compete at?
Speaker 3 (17:55):
well, um, I think, uh , I divided.
Well, I think I divided between, emotionally speaking,
beautiful for the beauty of thebrain, maybe.
Okay.
And because it was a huge, hugeachievement for me.
So for the emotional part, Ithink my first competition in
(18:17):
San Diego Ice Arena Okay,Because never before that won
anything.
Yeah.
I get there and I literally didmy showcase and I get out and
okay, we can go, who cares, Inever win.
And then they run after me thegirls I compete with and they
(18:43):
say you won, you want to stayfor the award tournament?
Oh so, it was the first timeand I never stopped winning
after that.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
so it was like, wow, I can win, and then you just had
to go marry a champion yourself, right?
Speaker 3 (18:58):
That was just my luck .
Speaker 2 (19:00):
There you go.
So I was going to say it's justkind of funny saying winning an
ice competition in San Diego,because San Diego is not known
for ice or snow.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
No, I guess not, but I mean it's very common for
Mexicans.
We have obviously a lot ofconnections.
Yeah, so a lot of connections.
Yeah.
So a lot of the team wants tocompete there.
So for many it's like the firsttime they leave the conference.
Okay.
The second one for me, for thebeauty of the ring, I would say
(19:35):
about Overdrove Germany.
It's amazing.
I never see something beforethat.
After that, yeah, I knew manyothers, but that one was amazing
.
They have three ice rinks onefor training, one that is the
stadium kind of.
Yeah, they have one they usefor the public and for ice
dancing.
It was amazing.
(19:55):
Full of mirrors, surrounded, sosuper beautiful, and you can
see in the training one, themountains behind and the whole
Germany was like wow, I'm here.
Yeah, that was like wow.
And the third one because itwas very cool to win that
competition when I participatedin the Master Winter Games to
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win the competition and the like.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
Almost no one.
When I participated in theMaster Winter Games.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
Yeah, the competition .
And almost no one won from myteam, so it was like whoa, I did
it and everyone celebrated me,and it was Innsbruck, Austria.
And Innsbruck was the placewhere the what was it?
1972?
No 19.
I don't remember.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Olympics game, for which where inzbruck?
Speaker 3 (20:48):
austria?
Oh, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
I know 1980 was lake placid, the 1932 and 1980, yeah,
yeah my one of my ancestors wasactually in the 1932 winter
olympics for bobsledding, buthe's also the only person to do
winter and summer olympics.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
So he did 19 I want to say it was 1912 summer
olympics, or 1914 for boxing andthen did 1932 with the
bobsledding oh, wow so a lot offun in that ring because they
have the names of yeah, so yeah,that's super cool so in
australia was all theenvironment.
(21:24):
It's like the.
I think the closest it mustfeel to be in olympics because
they present every country.
There is like a parade forevery country yes and you have
the teams.
You know people from all overthe world so it was super fun
like enter with a Mexican flagand to see all the different
(21:48):
like uniforms.
That was a very like intenseschool competition.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Yeah, and then everybody that you get to meet
from around the world had to bepretty amazing too.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
Yeah, because they didn't include only figure
skating.
They include all the otherwinter sports.
So you know different,different humans, not just
figure skaters.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Yeah, so that's pretty cool.
Now, did you ever make it toOlympic tryouts at all, or?
Speaker 3 (22:17):
No, I mean I started late and I start in mexico, so
it's not easy yeah it's gettingeasier in mexico, I have to say
it, not in my state.
My state, uh, literally that'severything we have.
Like I get to everyinternational competition
hearing like the american girlssay, oh, this ice is horrible,
(22:39):
how we are going to skate thereor compete.
And I look at them like this ishorrible, this is ice.
I mean, it's huge, and whatelse do you want?
And they look at me like why,where do you skate in a circle.
And I'm lucky.
I'm lucky there's no water onthe ice so.
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I feel like Mexicans.
We are like, at least the onesfrom my state.
We are like we can takewhatever, like, no matter what
we put up, we can skate.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
I mean it sounds like if they're complaining about
the ice, which is kind of funnyto me because I think Zamboni
has kind of smoothed out all theice.
The same for everything prettymuch.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
Yes and no, because there are different qualities on
the ice, like some competitions, like my, ice is normally like
soft.
Okay.
So I compared is this skate inline?
Is this skate on?
What will be like?
Okay, I don't know how topronounce that, so don't laugh.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
You can't say don't laugh, and I start laughing, so
that's just good.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
I don't know how to say W.
The what.
The lumber, oh, the wood, yeah,I don't know how to say it.
Told you I'm terrible.
So in that surface, when you'reusing inline you can feel that
it's softer.
So that will be like my eyes,but when I get to germany it's
(24:16):
incredibly hard but smooth in agood way.
So, yeah, you feel like thedifferent, like bonding,
especially in jumps.
It's like some ice kind of pushyou to the air and then the
other ice, don't let you go Likethey pull.
So, and for spinning, if you arein a very how do you say, more
(24:41):
soft surface, it requires morestrength.
Okay.
But if you're in a softer, yourspeed will be crazy and you
rarely do any effort to spin, soyou need more control.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Yeah, so it's kind of nice to train on the rougher
surfaces then.
That way, when you get to thenicer surfaces, you kind of have
that strength advantage.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
Yeah, so I can say every competition I ever won it
was because of my spinning.
Yeah.
I never fail a spin.
Well, maybe once, but it's notnormal.
So it's like I feel comfortableand it's like, no matter what
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surface I am, I'm not scared.
I literally spin in the worstone, so why cannot do it in the
best one?
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Exactly so.
Now, when you started inlineskating, did it come pretty
natural to you because of yourice skating background?
Speaker 3 (25:45):
There is a funny thing I observed Normally when
someone starts on wheels, on anykind of wheels inline quads,
whatever and they change to ice,they are the bravest.
Yeah, even T tavis told me.
Oh yeah, like, just give me afew minutes and he's a nice like
(26:06):
whoa yeah they're not afraid ofanything you can take.
Well, not everyone.
I know some one or two thatknow, but most ice skater put it
on wheels.
That's fine.
They won't do like three themost safest thing and they are
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checking the surface on any kindof rock.
It's like oh no.
So I will say I started like anormalized career, like oh my
God, what is this?
And the first time I fell itwas like this really hurts, like
falling on ice is like okay.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Depends upon how you land on the ice.
If you go face first, it hurts.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
Well, you learn to let your body go.
Yeah.
I don't know how to say itbecause it's probably not even a
second, but you have like animage like oh no, this is doom,
I'm going to die.
So you just let your at leastme, I just let my full body go,
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except one or two times that Itried to avoid it.
I put my hand and I how do yousay, break it, broke my hand.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Broke your fall.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
Yeah, oh you broke your wrist.
Yeah, that was enough Okay.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Because you went down with your wrist like that.
Huh yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
Yeah, yeah.
Not wise of me, but yeah, andthat's how I competed.
Once I disguised it like with aglove, so nobody see it was
rocking.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
Hey, we do what we got to do in competition.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
Yeah, because supposedly it wasn't allowed,
because it's not artistic.
Obviously it's not veryshowcased.
Yeah.
With a cool glove, and theright thing.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
Well for showcase.
If he had a cast, you couldhave just added that as part of
your costume, right?
Speaker 3 (28:04):
Yeah, the glove works very well, yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Okay.
So now you're saying, like withthe fall, do you let yourself
go when you fall in line,skating like you did with ice,
or do you brace yourself?
Speaker 3 (28:18):
more.
No, there's no way.
I mean you fall with your wholeweight over the pavement.
It's horrible.
I don't want to fall again hereever.
So I think I learned and I haveto overcome my fears because
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this requires more strength.
And it's kind of interestingbecause a lot of ice skaters
it's not around the world, butin a lot of places in Mexico
they feel like they belong to a12 different class, because you
are ice and you have to pay forskate yeah it's a super high,
(29:05):
expensive sport.
So you look at the people usingwheels oh, poor people, we are
in a whole different level fancy.
So they always kind of makeeveryone using wheels feel like,
oh, this is like a lower classsport.
(29:27):
And when you start doing itfigure skating in line, it's
like ha-ha, I want to see youhere.
It takes way more bravery tospin here than spin on ice.
Yeah.
Ice helps you.
The ice makes you fly thepavement.
(29:50):
Don't do anything for you.
You have to do everything.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
You have to have the strength to do it.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
Yeah, the control, I mean.
And it's like, oh nice, youeven the simple thing that you
say, okay if I go in backwards,okay, so I just let myself go
and I'm okay.
Yeah, do you want to gobackwards on wheels?
Your wheel will kill you.
So it's like I don't know it'slike I really respect and admire
(30:21):
every kind of skating, nomatter what you are using.
What kind of skating like?
uh, aggressive skating quads, uhroller in line, uh, it's
amazing like yeah it takessomething like I'm not saying
ice long, yeah, it is, it'sdifficult and it takes control,
(30:41):
but if the start wheels, oh mygod, I give you a week and you
will be amazing tonight yeah,and that's one of the reasons
why I started the podcast,because I do ice inline quad and
skateboarding, so I cover likeall forms of skating, trying to
bring everybody together and,like you know, we're all skaters
and we're all part of the samecommunity.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
Like me and Tavis, we like this fast stuff.
And then I've got friends thatare artistic.
I've got friends that are jamskaters with cruise.
I've got friends that just liketo do ramps and all that kind
of stuff.
So there's just like so manystyles that it's hard to just
pick and just focus on one styleof skating and that's why I
(31:25):
like bringing kind of the skatecommunity and like different
stories and get to hear aboutthings from all over the world,
different styles, and I meanI've had hockey players.
I'm hoping to have a former NHLplayer on here soon.
So yeah, so and I've hadOlympians from.
I don't know if you rememberDan Jansen or Bonnie Blair.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
Oh yeah, of course, yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
I've had both of them on plus her husband David
Cruikshank.
I'm working on getting ScottHamilton, so oh, that would be
amazing.
Yes, he's a super nice guy.
Yeah, so I mean we've emailedback and forth just trying to
lock down a time when we can gettogether, but it's just like an
amazing community.
And tavis came and startedtalking to me immediately after
(32:11):
the um actually before and afterthe race and I mean I had some
issues so I didn't get to hangaround very long afterwards.
So he can tell you about thatlater.
But okay, okay so, um, but yeah,it's just an amazing community
and, uh, last weekend or when wehad the race, that was my first
(32:32):
race in 33 years, so it was, itwas fun to do, and I live
Colorado now and the skatingcommunity is huge out here.
But we have coaches for speedskating and all that.
And it's funny how you said,like, you have to pay for ice
skating, for figure skating.
That's everywhere, that's notjust Mexico.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
Yeah, yeah, I discovered that because my mom,
when I was younger, she used tothink, oh, russians, I mean it
must be super cheap, super easy.
And when we started talkingwith all the Russian skaters,
they were like, no, we have topay.
And when they used to saynothing, so we were like, yes,
(33:16):
it's an expensive sport, nomatter where.
Yeah realize like, yes, it'sexpensive sport, no matter where
, yeah, and when you're using,like you will know, uh, any kind
of inline skate, you still haveto pay for your skates and
everything else.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
So it's, it's expensive yeah, and especially
if you want quality, because ourwheels get worn down, our
bearings get worn down, ourframes crack.
Sometimes you need to upgradeyour boot.
All aspects of skating costmoney.
Yes, unless you do, it's not asmuch.
But if you do like thefreestyle with the ramps and the
(33:49):
aggressive and theskateboarding, it's a little
cheaper because we got freeskate parks.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
Probably, probably.
They deserve it.
I get those guys flying and I'mlike, okay, you are in a whole
different level of I dare to.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
Yeah, Now did your ballet training really help you
as far as just balance goes onskates.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
Oh no, it helps you a lot in everything.
Yeah.
I don't know if you know, butin ballet there's a language
with your body, literally alanguage Like, okay, anyone else
they cannot see, but you willsee, like, for example, in
ballet.
(34:35):
This means death.
Okay.
Crossing my arms in this way isthat.
It is specifically that, sothere is a whole language.
If you do this, it's liketalking okay so you can
translate that the pureexperience don't have it and you
(34:55):
have better choreographybecause you can do all the the
thing, like you can see theintensity, the performance yeah
it helps you in that it helpsyou also that ballet dancers I
mean there's nothing more toughthan being a ballet dancer.
Whatever who thinks oh, so sweet.
No, no, there's nothing sweetif you do black swan, that's a
(35:19):
reality.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
Thank you so much yeah, did you ever see the movie
um the game plan with the rock,where he's the football player
and his daughter comes and shedoes ballet and he's like a
professional athlete.
He's like, oh, I can handlethis, and they have them doing
it.
And he's like holding onto thebars, like just dripping in
(35:40):
sweat, trying to drink water andstuff and just shaking.
So yeah it was just funny tosee that.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
Yeah, and it's like I mean the competition in figure
skating is.
It's tough because everyonewants to win.
That's the truth, but you'restill just one human.
You can be the most annoyingform of human, but you are on
your own.
If you win, you win, but in youcan hate everyone and you still
(36:10):
have to dance with them.
Yeah.
You cannot be like such a badperson because they are next to
you.
They can trip you down, theycan do something.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
Little elbow to the face or something.
Oh, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
That was an accident.
They do worse.
Yeah, I mean in hero skating.
Skating too, they do quite uglythings, but in ballet like for
example one of my um friends uh,they have like a crash um glass
okay on the point s, so try tostep on that.
(36:51):
Yeah, horrible no, thank youanother day I step on the, the
tooth, the dress, with dirtyshoes over and ruin it that's
crazy yeah, no, no, no, I knewanother.
(37:11):
Like there's all kind of uglythings like you're not talking
about nice speed skating, thisis like I'm prettier I'm smarter
and I want to win yeah
Speaker 2 (37:24):
on my way that's why it's kind of like I like the
inline speed, skating themarathons, not doing the track
stuff, the pack or indoor um,because all I want to do is like
I set my time this year.
Next year I want to beat thattime I just got.
I'm my own competition, I'm theonly one I worry about.
I'm not worried about everybodyelse.
So exactly.
Speaker 3 (37:44):
But I have just to feel off of me because I have a
fright and say, at the end ofthe day, it's better to be how
do you say a lousy winner than agood loser.
(38:05):
Who cares?
Speaker 1 (38:07):
So be a crappy winner as opposed to a gracious loser.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
Nobody wants to be the gracious loser, sorry.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
Hey, if I lose, I lose.
It's funny because my son didwrestling for a while and there
was an incident where, becauseyou can't always win, even
though you go out there and youtry to, you're going to lose.
And I'm going to say a thingthat I don't know why I'm
drawing a blank on his name.
Uh, matt, something from theufc in season two of the of the
(38:40):
ultimate fighter thing, he goes.
If you've never lost a fight,you're fighting the wrong people
.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
Like your competition level isn't high enough yeah,
yeah, can be, can be, can be, itcan be.
Yeah, I remember a coach toldme it was probably my first
national and I was horriblynervous and my choreographer so
we have a technical coach and achoreographer.
My choreographer looked at meand said why are you nervous?
And I said look at the othergirl, look at this.
(39:09):
I was making a whole drama.
And she said, like this is notcompetition, this is like a.
You're crushing everyone.
And you say she said you shouldbe in another place, not here,
like no, but but nothing, likejust follow, go.
Like.
So it's like do you know?
(39:30):
Like yeah, probably should behigher level, because if it's
too easy, you're probably not inthe right place.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
Yeah, so like if you're beating everybody and
you're undefeated, but it's like, but when you do compete, you
want to go against the best atthe level you're at.
So you don't want to competewith people like, like, I mean,
I know there was a crap load ofkids that beat me in the race.
I think I came in 116th out of128.
So I mean, but that's my timeto beat for next year.
(40:03):
So now it's and I wanted to doit, to know that I could do it.
But I'm also because you guyswill be in um in august and
september at duluth and uh,dakota, north dakota, right yes
so I'll actually get to meet youthen.
So I've already met your husband, I'll actually get to meet you
too.
So but it's just one of thosethings where it's just I love
(40:27):
competition.
And then also, what happenedwith my son with wrestling is he
wrestled this guy for the thirdtime and went into triple
overtime.
The kid actually beat him thistime and his mom was like trying
to comfort him and hisgrandmother and he like he goes
look, I lost.
It's part of the sport, getover it.
He's like I'm not going to winand this is when he was in sixth
(40:49):
grade.
He's like I'm not going to winevery competition.
He goes I go out there and Igive it my best, win or lose, I
don't worry about the loss.
Speaker 3 (41:00):
I got to prepare for the next match.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (41:03):
That's very, very good thinking for an athlete.
Yeah.
I have the wrong one.
I have problems in everything Ido I.
That's why I became soobsessive.
Make me better?
I'm not sure, but um, yeah,that's the right way of thinking
(41:25):
.
That's why can we say I willraise our kids, you have
problems?
Speaker 2 (41:31):
so you're basically a perfectionist when it comes to
your skating.
Speaker 3 (41:34):
I'm terrible.
I think it's part of the balletculture.
The first time I had probably amonth learning ice skating and
I was learning for the firsttime my first spin, almost spin.
Everyone knows that spin.
It's like the first easiest one.
First thing spin everybody.
Everyone knows that skin islike the first easiest one.
Okay, I stay from 9 00 am to 900 pm on the ice just repeating
(42:05):
one exercise over and over andover again, and I say I won't
leave the ring until I spin.
Okay.
That's my level of obsession.
I won't say committed, becausethat's a whole new level of
obsession, but yes.
Speaker 2 (42:25):
Yeah.
So they always say don't worryabout the guy that knows 10,000
moves, Don't always worry aboutthe guy that did one move 10,000
times.
Speaker 3 (42:31):
Yeah, that's correct.
Speaker 2 (42:33):
So I did do a little pro wrestling back in the day,
and the one thing they taughtyou is, before you move on to
the next move, you master theone move.
Speaker 3 (42:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (42:44):
So you mastered the spin, and then you were ready to
master the next move.
Speaker 3 (42:50):
Yeah, I mean, that's basic.
I think, Well, I don't know.
I know a few sports.
I didn't.
Well, ballet's not a sport, butit's really a sport.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
I consider dancing a sport.
I mean, I love the step-upmovies and I consider them
athletes, Because there's no wayyou can dance at that level and
not be athletic.
Speaker 3 (43:10):
Yeah, you have to.
So I do ballet and ice skatingand now inline field skating and
I did and I also competed alittle bit in fencing.
Speaker 2 (43:23):
Yeah, Great, You're dangerous on the ice and you're
dangerous with what do they callthem?
Speaker 3 (43:28):
Fountain foil.
Speaker 2 (43:29):
Yeah, you're dangerous with one of those too,
tavisis, be careful and I'mbetter with a sword, yeah you're
better with a sword than thefencing foil.
Speaker 3 (43:39):
Yes, different weapons.
You have the table, yeah, andthe fencing foil yeah, just tell
tavis if he gets in trouble.
Speaker 2 (43:48):
Just 9-1-1 and I'll come help.
I don't know what I'm going todo against you, but I teach him.
He's pretty good okay, good, sohe's got a.
He's got a fighting chance.
Is what you're saying?
Speaker 3 (44:00):
he's fun like so now has your obsession carried over
into the inline oh, yes, yes,definitely like uh, at first it
was, yes, super fun because mymom is being with me in every
adventure I've ever been,because she says I'm here to
defend you, because I get intovery difficult environments,
(44:25):
like I also get into a littlebit like modeling, like TV and
all that stuff, and so it's verytough environment that everyone
wants to do something.
So she was like my loyalcompanion.
She's a skating man so sheknows everything about skating.
She knows she can be a coach.
(44:46):
Nice.
So she started going with me inline and she said I'm going to
stop thinking.
This isn't right.
I have to see the same iceskater I see normally here.
So she started I was like, oh,who cares, mom, now I get to
jump.
And she went no, that was wrong, you better jump.
You need to jump higher, youneed to do this.
(45:06):
So she was telling me, like Iwas on my ice blade.
I was oh wow, but I like thatenergy, I like like she telling
me, I can do more.
Okay.
Super, like oh, wow, yes, I cando.
And I was like frustrated, likewow, I cannot spin correctly
here and it's because the wheelsno, it's not the wheels, you
(45:28):
are not listening to yourtechnique Like okay, so I'm, I'm
like, oh, yes, yes, like Idon't know, I like the energy.
It's obsessive, yes, but Ithink he's still in, um, in
there, um dangerous line ofhealthy obsessive okay,
basically you're addicted yeah,now are you gonna end up, are
(45:53):
you gonna compete and inartistic skating within line
works.
I know go works uh, I know uh,one of the choreographers in my
state he's also a choreographerfor figure skating on quads on
(46:17):
roller okay okay, maybe ask her.
She must know like how theworld there.
And I say, well, maybe I startjust one uh exhibition, like
just something, not joshy, justfor fun, and I see what I can do
, why not?
Speaker 2 (46:34):
okay, um, I have a project that I'm working on.
I'm not going to give anydetails right now.
Well, after the show I'll tellyou.
But, um, I think it might be acool thing.
So, if you want to actually doan exhibition, or get some
people for an exhibition and wecould probably put something
together, oh, perfect yes so now, who was your biggest influence
(46:55):
for skating?
Or did it start with ballet andthen move into skating?
So your biggest influence?
Speaker 3 (47:01):
so I started ice skating because I wanted to
fence, and I begged my parentsto be a sensor yeah, yeah.
And finally they give up.
I was like probably 11, 12.
They take this one class with aprofessional team of censors in
my state.
It was quite good in thatmoment.
(47:22):
And they say, oh yeah, herclass will start in a moment.
We are just finishing theserules and one guy break a helmet
, another guy start taking outthe clothes.
It's not the real clothes, it'syour protection.
My dad was scared to death.
(47:43):
They are hearing a woman.
They are getting naked in frontof each other.
He was thoroughly like he juststepped on hell.
So I think she will never dofancy.
And look at my mom, look forher something pretty to do.
So my mom couldn't thinknothing else.
(48:04):
They do ice skating in mexico,yeah.
So yeah, she find me that.
And then they regret it because, like everything in my life, I
became so excessive that theyhave to pay a lot yeah why we
did that because your dad toldher to find another sport for
(48:28):
you.
That's why yeah and then itcomes a moment that I can pay my
things and I still get tooexpensive.
Yeah, sport for you.
Speaker 2 (48:36):
That's why yeah, so if you want to blame somebody,
it's your dad's fault.
So now, what kind of ice skatesdid you use?
Like, what's your preferred iceskates?
Speaker 3 (48:50):
um, so I try many, but I am up with jackson okay
because, uh, there was like afashion that everyone started to
try the lighter yeah oh, it canmake you this super huge,
amazing performance.
And there's a lot of myteammates to try Edea.
(49:11):
They try different, but for meright now Jackson has the
perfect needle.
Okay.
Because he has a little bit ofthe lighter thing.
I don't remember the name ofthe material.
Speaker 2 (49:28):
The what there's suede, there's leather.
What was that?
Speaker 3 (49:36):
Fiber carbon.
Oh, carbon fiber.
Yes, okay, the lowest part ofthat is lighter.
It's still very tough, strong.
Yeah.
I use the Elite, uh boot andjackson and I well, I changed
(49:59):
many times of light.
I use the vision blade until wedisappear and then I change to
the closest.
I like big um talks okay Idon't know why.
I feel very comfortable forspinning to have big toe picks.
Speaker 2 (50:18):
That?
That reminds me of the moviethe Cutting Edge too, where he
kept falling toe pick, toe pick,yeah.
And now, what kind of inlinesdo you use?
Speaker 3 (50:30):
So obviously the boot .
I just use the same bootbecause this is my boot.
Now, what kind of inlines doyou use?
So obviously the wood.
I just use the same woodbecause this is my wood.
I feel comfortable Okay.
So I use the Elite from Jackson.
Okay.
Now I don't know the number,because there's 5,400.
They're different models, butit's Elite.
Yeah.
Jackson and I'm using I try alsotwo different frames.
(50:53):
I mean I I don't have a longestcareer, obviously, I'm just
started.
Yeah, I try a frame with threewheels from jackson okay after
all for me, I say well, I'musing jackson, why not three
wheels?
And it have like a very strongbig toe stopper okay but uh, so
(51:16):
I'm used to the blades.
The blades are longer than threewheels yeah so when I try three
wheels, I feel like I was in adancing blade super short, like,
oh my god, this is not astability at all yeah my other
part of the blade, so then Ichanged to four wheels.
The frame is a big frame okayfour wheels.
(51:40):
Uh, the toe stopper is lessfancy because the one jackson
used you can move it up and down.
It's very like a strong.
It lasts longer okay, the peakframe have, um, two different
toe stoppers.
One there is a white, small andkind of goes, runs off very
(52:02):
fast, and another there is big,great, more strong one, and you
cannot move the height.
But it's perfect for me.
Why?
Because the four wheels theyare a little bit separated so it
allows me to more differentsurface without having any
trouble, because it's 68 wheelsso you need the space.
(52:26):
Yeah.
The four wheels are the samelength exactly as my legs.
Okay.
It gives me a whole differentlevel of stability.
I feel, oh, I'm on blades andthe toe stopper is super close
to the surface, to the pavement,so like just millimeters up,
(52:49):
what makes me feel exactly likemy toe pick.
Okay, so for me, that's me feelexactly like my toe pick Okay.
So for me that's been workingamazing.
I love it.
Speaker 2 (52:57):
Awesome.
So now, what advice would yougive to new up-and-coming
skaters?
Or even if they want to doballet or skating, figure
skating or even inline skating,because you've got everything
under your belt well, I will sayif you want to study ballet,
(53:20):
think twice.
Speaker 3 (53:21):
You have to be very healthy psychologically speaking
to not break down there,because if not, you're going to
end up crazy with some eatingdisorder or something else for
sure.
Okay.
You need to be incrediblystrong mentally, Physically.
Compared with the mental part,it's the easy part.
Speaker 2 (53:43):
Yeah so and now what about for figure skating?
Speaker 3 (53:47):
If you're going to enter figure skating, I would
say If you are going to enterfigure skating, I would say yes,
forget about.
Oh, we are just here to competeand have fun.
That don't exist.
If you enter figure skating,you want to win?
Yeah, don't care about all thepoor suffering of any other girl
, you care about you and win.
(54:08):
So get over and put to work.
Straight to the point Go andwin.
So get over and put to work,straight to the point, go win,
and no matter what country youare.
I hear that so many times.
Yeah.
You win over a Russian and theysay we're at the same level,
same age, why not?
Speaker 2 (54:29):
Yeah, competition is competition, no matter where
they're from I have two thumbs,two, two seats.
Speaker 3 (54:36):
It's the same thing yeah um in inline I would say I
really admire people like inkind of challenge my uh my fear.
So I really admire them and Iwill start with inline, so that
way you are the bravest and thenyou can change to whatever you
want.
Speaker 2 (54:55):
There you go.
So now, how can my listenersfollow you?
Speaker 3 (55:01):
I'm on Instagram.
I'm Tensie Trosset the name.
But it's a robot.
How do you say the A with thecircle in English?
The?
Speaker 2 (55:14):
A with the umlaut.
Speaker 3 (55:17):
That's it, tensy Tens .
Okay.
So you can test it.
It will appear, that's nice.
Speaker 2 (55:25):
Well, I appreciate you coming on today.
Speaker 3 (55:27):
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
Thank you.
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Speaker 2 (00:39):
Welcome to this week's episode of how do you
skate.
I am your host, sean egan.
Welcome to this week's episodeof how Do you Skate.
I am your host, sean Egan, andsome of you might recognize the
last name from my guest.
Her name is Tinsia Trozen.
We had her husband on earlierthis week, so how are you doing?
Speaker 3 (00:54):
today Good Two skaters married.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Second couple that I've had on.
I had Bonnie Blair and herhusband, david Kruikshank too.
Second couple that I've had onI had Bonnie Blair and her
husband David Kruikshank too, soit's always cool when you can
have two husbands and wives thatare involved in the same sport.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Yeah, that was kind of random, but yes, because I
met so many skaters in my lifeand I didn't look at him as a
skater and go oh, he skates, ohwow, the bald head.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
we just don't look like skaters with bald heads, I
swear so.
So now, when did your wholestate skating start?
How old were you and when wasthe beginning?
Speaker 3 (01:37):
well, I started ballet, so skating for me was
late and also I'm from mexico.
It's not like, and especially,uh, the part I come from there
is jalisco it's not like we havenot even one normalizing.
We have a.
It would be like probably likethe third part of a normalizing
(01:59):
okay so it's not a real ice rinkI should be.
So I start yeah, be real.
Everyone there has to have aextra powers for adapting every
everywhere else.
So I started in a summer course, probably between 13 and 14
(02:22):
okay and.
But I already have all my back,uh, in ballet, so it helps a
little, not much, because, uh,it makes very artistic, very
good performance if you're aballet dancer.
But we're terribly scared oflife, so jumping and everything
(02:43):
like why, but yeah?
Speaker 2 (02:47):
we actually just saw the movie ballerina last night
from the john wick series.
Oh my god.
And just like she kept doingthe thing and you can see just
her toes just being bloodiedfrom being up on her toes and
everything.
Is that like an actual thing,or is it?
Was it just for the movie.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
No, no, totally true.
My first time on Pointe shoes.
Probably a week later all mynails fell, they just leave my
feet.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
That just does not sound.
And it's funny because, likeyou said, it makes you a really
good artistic.
And did you do artistic skatingtoo?
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Yeah, but so I do showcase.
There is a whole differentthing for figure skating.
I have different kind ofprograms, they have different
rules and I also do um, becauseany skater in normal figure
(03:50):
skating after 18 is a old human.
But uh, after 18 you can enterto the abu skating.
There is a whole whole newworld.
Yeah, it's, it's very amazing.
So in our skating there alsoexists artistic skating.
Yeah, but it's not the normalskating, it's a kind of a branch
(04:14):
of a showcase okay so, uh, it's, everything is about your
performance and all the artistic.
It's not about how high can youjump.
It's not about how brave youare to do this super exercise.
It's more about how smooth youcan move.
(04:36):
Okay, and how big of an actoryou are.
Okay, so now was that on icequads or inlines was that on ice
quads or in lines, it was sonice okay nice, in my um, my
couch, cold, the ice cream, umcan you call the glass thing you
(04:57):
put on fish uh, the glass thatwe put up for the um for hockey
no, the glass in your oh, thefish bowl or the aquarium the
aquarium.
Okay, I bring a aquarium becauseit's just a circle surrounded
by glass okay, that makes sense,and you're about to fish just
swimming around yeah, it's likebecause I actually had um a
(05:21):
six-time national champion fromme, mexico, on the show.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
I think his name was Luis Hernandez.
Does that sound familiar?
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (05:36):
he's been alone always, yeah, so I had him on
the show a few weeks ago, Ithink.
Is he a man?
Yeah, I mean, who's going tocompete against you?
For example.
Donovan, it's paradise.
I mean, who's going to competeagainst you?
Yeah, for example, our um likedonovan.
He said like oh, I'm I don'tremember 12 or 11 times national
champion.
I say, of course you're aloneyeah, like 12 times he's been
(05:59):
alone.
So if you're a man, it'sparadise.
I never have one national alone.
Yeah.
At least I have the smallest Ihave.
It was seven girls.
Okay.
But like in the worldcompetition, in the
international competition it wasone competition was 60 girls.
(06:19):
Oh, wow.
So it's like being a man isparadise.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
So you have it a little easier with competition
when you're a man.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Yeah, because they want men, because there's not
enough men.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Yeah, maybe from the same countries, but it's never,
if you look at the list whenit's unopened, when everyone can
get in the competition.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Yeah, the list of women are like like five
different groups.
The list of men is like oh, onegroup already passed okay
that's.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
That's kind of cool, though to know it's uh, it's
just interesting to see thedifferent skate cultures all
around the world and learn moreabout them, so I always get
excited about that.
So now, have you gotten intoinline, are you?
Because I know you're in theApostle Islands right now?
Are you doing the race thisweekend?
Speaker 3 (07:08):
No, I started to learn like, seriously, more
seriously, inline figure skatingthis year.
Okay.
I started to know the inline,obviously, when I got married.
It's like oh, okay, that's it.
And now, like this year, I sayobviously when I get married
it's like, oh okay, that exists.
And now, like this year, I saywhy not?
(07:29):
Like I'm not like competinglike before that I was competing
like four times each month, soit was crazy.
So now I said I can have alittle more fun.
So it's kind of fun torediscover skating.
Yeah, I learn ice, I know ice,I enjoy it.
(07:50):
I of fun to rediscover skating.
Yeah, I learned ice, I know ice, I enjoy it, I know what to do.
But I also very hard me likeeverything I don't know.
This is not enough.
No, I need more active.
No, I need more spinning yeahin a line.
It's like oh my god, it's new,it doesn't matter if I'm not
perfect, it's new, I juststarted, so I kind of having fun
, even comparing much.
This is me jumping.
(08:10):
I I post that kind of uh stupidthings in instagram like oh,
this is me doing the syndrome onblades and wheels.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
So it's like well, you're married to an expert on
who can set you up properly yeahso now, how far did you go with
figure skating as far as, like,competition wise?
Speaker 3 (08:36):
well, I have nine uh, national championships.
Okay, I am single nationalchampionship.
Okay, I have problems and I didwhat is considered like world
competition in that world.
Okay.
(08:56):
It's not the only world, butyeah.
So I did.
My first time was in Oberstdorf, germany.
That was the no the first time,I think.
Oberstdorf Germany, that wasthe first time I think there
were like 40-something girls andit was fifth place.
It was very good, my first timein a big competition.
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My second time I was fourth,then I repeated in Canada and I
got second place.
This is like the.
It's an intern ISUInternational Skating Union
Competitions.
Okay.
So the third one was in Canadaand I had second place, and the
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last one was Lake Placid, NewYork, and I have gold everywhere
.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
There you go.
So now going into your firstcompetition, international
competition.
What was your nerves like?
Were you super nervous?
Speaker 3 (09:54):
I'm always nervous.
I don't think there is a way.
Everything I do is about beingjudged for other people.
They judge how you look.
They judge it's not like nobodycares really.
Uh how, uh, I know it's not how.
(10:14):
It's not like how really a spinskater looks.
They care how fast you are yeahbut in figure skating, any kind
like showcase, uh, it's veryimportant, it's highly important
, and how you dress is it's?
Uh, I mean, it's amazinglyimportant, even more important
(10:37):
than normal figure skating okayeverything.
Uh, if we are talking aboutballet, it's just about how you
look all the time.
Yeah.
You have to still be an athlete, still like, do something, not
just look pretty.
So I mean always.
(11:01):
You will always get nervous,but you have to learn.
There is all kind of students.
Everyone have their ownthinking about how to control
that yeah normally get there in.
I enjoy the public, like for me, for example, being in a
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theater and ballet.
There's nothing I enjoy morethan see the public and on ice.
I enjoy acting for the judges.
I want them to look at me and Iwant them to look my face, and
my coach always told me like,choose one of the judges that
you think is a person you feelmore connected with or you feel
(11:47):
more like nice to do something.
Yeah.
And you act for that, just justfor her.
So that's what I normally do,and all my performance is just
for this one human.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Okay, nice.
Now when coming up with youroutfits for skating, like, do
you figure out like what kind ofroutine and what kind of music
and then kind of, correspondyour outfit with that?
Speaker 3 (12:15):
In the past it used to be light showcase and
dramatic showcase.
Okay, no-transcript.
Uh, what is performancecharacter?
(12:37):
And I think it's artistic.
I'm not sure of the right title, the new one but it's about um,
so if you choose to be adramatic skater, obviously, is
that what you're going to do?
Yeah if you choose a character,you have to become that
character.
So it has to be clear for thejudges If I'm charge-traveling,
(13:01):
I have to look like him.
I have to act, walk and movelike him.
Yeah.
And performance.
For example, I have to tell astory to the panel of judges
without talking, so all myperformance they have to
(13:21):
understand what was the story,what was the problem and when we
finish.
So in the adult screening, theartistic part is a little bit
like showcase.
You have the freedom to choosebe light, dramatic, whatever,
but it has to be a high intenseperformance.
That's what the judges arelooking for, that's what they
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award.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
So like the different kinds of tricks or moves I
don't even know what we callthem in figure skating, so it's
almost like it sounds likeshowcases, almost like the
luchadors, where they get outthere with their gimmicks and
then tell the story of whateverfeud they're having on.
But unlike them, you don't havean opponent, so you have to
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tell the story by yourself.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
Yeah, yeah.
And that's why the dresses orthe whatever you are using is so
important and there is rules,like when you are doing
performance like artisticskating, you have to be very
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careful what the limits, becausethe limits are the ISU still so
international skating uniondon't want the athletic part to
be lost, they don't want to bejust this super cute show, so
they have limits.
(14:52):
It has to be whatever you canuse to do your performance,
whatever you can use to do yourperformance, but it cannot
interfere with your blades, itcannot sell to the eyes and it
cannot be very naked, very notdecent.
(15:14):
I don't know how to say that.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
I understand what you're saying and I completely
understand it has to bepresentable so kids can watch it
exactly.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
I mean that's for figure skating, but it allows a
little more than the normalfigure skating you normally see
a little bit more like maybe youcan do more um, something on
the head or something more like.
I have one performance that mydress have like wings on the
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down, but nothing that caninterfere my performance.
It just look more beautiful themovements and everything and
improve my performance.
Okay, if you're talking aboutshowcase, you can go literally
to almost whatever place youwant to go.
You can use theater liketheater makeup.
(16:13):
You can use a costume like toesto head.
Yeah, it's a world that most oftoes to head.
Yeah.
It's a world that most of theworld don't know.
It's very fun to see.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
So what do you prefer doing, the showcase or more of
the artistic skating?
Speaker 3 (16:31):
For me the same it's just artistic is like a light
showcase for me.
Okay.
What I love the most, I think,is spotlight and showcase
performance.
A spotlight is a kind ofshowcase.
Okay, use props, so if uh,wherever I can use, hats, fans,
(16:53):
uh, ribbons.
So I really, really enjoyskating like what was the one, I
skate something from Cirque duSoleil, from Coteo, I think.
Okay.
I use a ribbon.
So I was this what is it meme?
And I use a ribbon foreverything.
(17:15):
I don't know how to explain itto like do the whole performance
with the ribbon.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
So, and if people don't understand, it's almost
like the gymnastic ribbons, Ithink, with the stick and the
ribbons half the length, becauseif I use the ones they use,
yeah, I will have problems withmy blades just because it's too
long yes okay, so half the sizethe gymnasts use.
(17:45):
Nice now, with all yourcompeting.
Where is one of your favoriteplaces that you've been that you
got to compete at?
Speaker 3 (17:55):
well, um, I think, uh , I divided.
Well, I think I divided between, emotionally speaking,
beautiful for the beauty of thebrain, maybe.
Okay.
And because it was a huge, hugeachievement for me.
So for the emotional part, Ithink my first competition in
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San Diego Ice Arena Okay,Because never before that won
anything.
Yeah.
I get there and I literally didmy showcase and I get out and
okay, we can go, who cares, Inever win.
And then they run after me thegirls I compete with and they
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say you won, you want to stayfor the award tournament?
Oh so, it was the first timeand I never stopped winning
after that.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
so it was like, wow, I can win, and then you just had
to go marry a champion yourself, right?
Speaker 3 (18:58):
That was just my luck .
Speaker 2 (19:00):
There you go.
So I was going to say it's justkind of funny saying winning an
ice competition in San Diego,because San Diego is not known
for ice or snow.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
No, I guess not, but I mean it's very common for
Mexicans.
We have obviously a lot ofconnections.
Yeah, so a lot of connections.
Yeah.
So a lot of the team wants tocompete there.
So for many it's like the firsttime they leave the conference.
Okay.
The second one for me, for thebeauty of the ring, I would say
(19:35):
about Overdrove Germany.
It's amazing.
I never see something beforethat.
After that, yeah, I knew manyothers, but that one was amazing
.
They have three ice rinks onefor training, one that is the
stadium kind of.
Yeah, they have one they usefor the public and for ice
dancing.
It was amazing.
(19:55):
Full of mirrors, surrounded, sosuper beautiful, and you can
see in the training one, themountains behind and the whole
Germany was like wow, I'm here.
Yeah, that was like wow.
And the third one because itwas very cool to win that
competition when I participatedin the Master Winter Games to
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win the competition and the like.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
Almost no one.
When I participated in theMaster Winter Games.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
Yeah, the competition .
And almost no one won from myteam, so it was like whoa, I did
it and everyone celebrated me,and it was Innsbruck, Austria.
And Innsbruck was the placewhere the what was it?
1972?
No 19.
I don't remember.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Olympics game, for which where inzbruck?
Speaker 3 (20:48):
austria?
Oh, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
I know 1980 was lake placid, the 1932 and 1980, yeah,
yeah my one of my ancestors wasactually in the 1932 winter
olympics for bobsledding, buthe's also the only person to do
winter and summer olympics.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
So he did 19 I want to say it was 1912 summer
olympics, or 1914 for boxing andthen did 1932 with the
bobsledding oh, wow so a lot offun in that ring because they
have the names of yeah, so yeah,that's super cool so in
australia was all theenvironment.
(21:24):
It's like the.
I think the closest it mustfeel to be in olympics because
they present every country.
There is like a parade forevery country yes and you have
the teams.
You know people from all overthe world so it was super fun
like enter with a Mexican flagand to see all the different
(21:48):
like uniforms.
That was a very like intenseschool competition.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Yeah, and then everybody that you get to meet
from around the world had to bepretty amazing too.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
Yeah, because they didn't include only figure
skating.
They include all the otherwinter sports.
So you know different,different humans, not just
figure skaters.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Yeah, so that's pretty cool.
Now, did you ever make it toOlympic tryouts at all, or?
Speaker 3 (22:17):
No, I mean I started late and I start in mexico, so
it's not easy yeah it's gettingeasier in mexico, I have to say
it, not in my state.
My state, uh, literally that'severything we have.
Like I get to everyinternational competition
hearing like the american girlssay, oh, this ice is horrible,
(22:39):
how we are going to skate thereor compete.
And I look at them like this ishorrible, this is ice.
I mean, it's huge, and whatelse do you want?
And they look at me like why,where do you skate in a circle.
And I'm lucky.
I'm lucky there's no water onthe ice so.
(23:00):
I feel like Mexicans.
We are like, at least the onesfrom my state.
We are like we can takewhatever, like, no matter what
we put up, we can skate.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
I mean it sounds like if they're complaining about
the ice, which is kind of funnyto me because I think Zamboni
has kind of smoothed out all theice.
The same for everything prettymuch.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
Yes and no, because there are different qualities on
the ice, like some competitions, like my, ice is normally like
soft.
Okay.
So I compared is this skate inline?
Is this skate on?
What will be like?
Okay, I don't know how topronounce that, so don't laugh.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
You can't say don't laugh, and I start laughing, so
that's just good.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
I don't know how to say W.
The what.
The lumber, oh, the wood, yeah,I don't know how to say it.
Told you I'm terrible.
So in that surface, when you'reusing inline you can feel that
it's softer.
So that will be like my eyes,but when I get to germany it's
(24:16):
incredibly hard but smooth in agood way.
So, yeah, you feel like thedifferent, like bonding,
especially in jumps.
It's like some ice kind of pushyou to the air and then the
other ice, don't let you go Likethey pull.
So, and for spinning, if you arein a very how do you say, more
(24:41):
soft surface, it requires morestrength.
Okay.
But if you're in a softer, yourspeed will be crazy and you
rarely do any effort to spin, soyou need more control.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Yeah, so it's kind of nice to train on the rougher
surfaces then.
That way, when you get to thenicer surfaces, you kind of have
that strength advantage.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
Yeah, so I can say every competition I ever won it
was because of my spinning.
Yeah.
I never fail a spin.
Well, maybe once, but it's notnormal.
So it's like I feel comfortableand it's like, no matter what
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surface I am, I'm not scared.
I literally spin in the worstone, so why cannot do it in the
best one?
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Exactly so.
Now, when you started inlineskating, did it come pretty
natural to you because of yourice skating background?
Speaker 3 (25:45):
There is a funny thing I observed Normally when
someone starts on wheels, on anykind of wheels inline quads,
whatever and they change to ice,they are the bravest.
Yeah, even T tavis told me.
Oh yeah, like, just give me afew minutes and he's a nice like
(26:06):
whoa yeah they're not afraid ofanything you can take.
Well, not everyone.
I know some one or two thatknow, but most ice skater put it
on wheels.
That's fine.
They won't do like three themost safest thing and they are
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checking the surface on any kindof rock.
It's like oh no.
So I will say I started like anormalized career, like oh my
God, what is this?
And the first time I fell itwas like this really hurts, like
falling on ice is like okay.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Depends upon how you land on the ice.
If you go face first, it hurts.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
Well, you learn to let your body go.
Yeah.
I don't know how to say itbecause it's probably not even a
second, but you have like animage like oh no, this is doom,
I'm going to die.
So you just let your at leastme, I just let my full body go,
(27:17):
except one or two times that Itried to avoid it.
I put my hand and I how do yousay, break it, broke my hand.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Broke your fall.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
Yeah, oh you broke your wrist.
Yeah, that was enough Okay.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Because you went down with your wrist like that.
Huh yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
Yeah, yeah.
Not wise of me, but yeah, andthat's how I competed.
Once I disguised it like with aglove, so nobody see it was
rocking.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
Hey, we do what we got to do in competition.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
Yeah, because supposedly it wasn't allowed,
because it's not artistic.
Obviously it's not veryshowcased.
Yeah.
With a cool glove, and theright thing.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
Well for showcase.
If he had a cast, you couldhave just added that as part of
your costume, right?
Speaker 3 (28:04):
Yeah, the glove works very well, yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Okay.
So now you're saying, like withthe fall, do you let yourself
go when you fall in line,skating like you did with ice,
or do you brace yourself?
Speaker 3 (28:18):
more.
No, there's no way.
I mean you fall with your wholeweight over the pavement.
It's horrible.
I don't want to fall again hereever.
So I think I learned and I haveto overcome my fears because
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this requires more strength.
And it's kind of interestingbecause a lot of ice skaters
it's not around the world, butin a lot of places in Mexico
they feel like they belong to a12 different class, because you
are ice and you have to pay forskate yeah it's a super high,
(29:05):
expensive sport.
So you look at the people usingwheels oh, poor people, we are
in a whole different level fancy.
So they always kind of makeeveryone using wheels feel like,
oh, this is like a lower classsport.
(29:27):
And when you start doing itfigure skating in line, it's
like ha-ha, I want to see youhere.
It takes way more bravery tospin here than spin on ice.
Yeah.
Ice helps you.
The ice makes you fly thepavement.
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Don't do anything for you.
You have to do everything.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
You have to have the strength to do it.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
Yeah, the control, I mean.
And it's like, oh nice, youeven the simple thing that you
say, okay if I go in backwards,okay, so I just let myself go
and I'm okay.
Yeah, do you want to gobackwards on wheels?
Your wheel will kill you.
So it's like I don't know it'slike I really respect and admire
(30:21):
every kind of skating, nomatter what you are using.
What kind of skating like?
uh, aggressive skating quads, uhroller in line, uh, it's
amazing like yeah it takessomething like I'm not saying
ice long, yeah, it is, it'sdifficult and it takes control,
(30:41):
but if the start wheels, oh mygod, I give you a week and you
will be amazing tonight yeah,and that's one of the reasons
why I started the podcast,because I do ice inline quad and
skateboarding, so I cover likeall forms of skating, trying to
bring everybody together and,like you know, we're all skaters
and we're all part of the samecommunity.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
Like me and Tavis, we like this fast stuff.
And then I've got friends thatare artistic.
I've got friends that are jamskaters with cruise.
I've got friends that just liketo do ramps and all that kind
of stuff.
So there's just like so manystyles that it's hard to just
pick and just focus on one styleof skating and that's why I
(31:25):
like bringing kind of the skatecommunity and like different
stories and get to hear aboutthings from all over the world,
different styles, and I meanI've had hockey players.
I'm hoping to have a former NHLplayer on here soon.
So yeah, so and I've hadOlympians from.
I don't know if you rememberDan Jansen or Bonnie Blair.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
Oh yeah, of course, yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
I've had both of them on plus her husband David
Cruikshank.
I'm working on getting ScottHamilton, so oh, that would be
amazing.
Yes, he's a super nice guy.
Yeah, so I mean we've emailedback and forth just trying to
lock down a time when we can gettogether, but it's just like an
amazing community.
And tavis came and startedtalking to me immediately after
(32:11):
the um actually before and afterthe race and I mean I had some
issues so I didn't get to hangaround very long afterwards.
So he can tell you about thatlater.
But okay, okay so, um, but yeah,it's just an amazing community
and, uh, last weekend or when wehad the race, that was my first
(32:32):
race in 33 years, so it was, itwas fun to do, and I live
Colorado now and the skatingcommunity is huge out here.
But we have coaches for speedskating and all that.
And it's funny how you said,like, you have to pay for ice
skating, for figure skating.
That's everywhere, that's notjust Mexico.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
Yeah, yeah, I discovered that because my mom,
when I was younger, she used tothink, oh, russians, I mean it
must be super cheap, super easy.
And when we started talkingwith all the Russian skaters,
they were like, no, we have topay.
And when they used to saynothing, so we were like, yes,
(33:16):
it's an expensive sport, nomatter where.
Yeah realize like, yes, it'sexpensive sport, no matter where
, yeah, and when you're using,like you will know, uh, any kind
of inline skate, you still haveto pay for your skates and
everything else.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
So it's, it's expensive yeah, and especially
if you want quality, because ourwheels get worn down, our
bearings get worn down, ourframes crack.
Sometimes you need to upgradeyour boot.
All aspects of skating costmoney.
Yes, unless you do, it's not asmuch.
But if you do like thefreestyle with the ramps and the
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aggressive and theskateboarding, it's a little
cheaper because we got freeskate parks.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
Probably, probably.
They deserve it.
I get those guys flying and I'mlike, okay, you are in a whole
different level of I dare to.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
Yeah, Now did your ballet training really help you
as far as just balance goes onskates.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
Oh no, it helps you a lot in everything.
Yeah.
I don't know if you know, butin ballet there's a language
with your body, literally alanguage Like, okay, anyone else
they cannot see, but you willsee, like, for example, in
ballet.
(34:35):
This means death.
Okay.
Crossing my arms in this way isthat.
It is specifically that, sothere is a whole language.
If you do this, it's liketalking okay so you can
translate that the pureexperience don't have it and you
(34:55):
have better choreographybecause you can do all the the
thing, like you can see theintensity, the performance yeah
it helps you in that it helpsyou also that ballet dancers I
mean there's nothing more toughthan being a ballet dancer.
Whatever who thinks oh, so sweet.
No, no, there's nothing sweetif you do black swan, that's a
(35:19):
reality.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
Thank you so much yeah, did you ever see the movie
um the game plan with the rock,where he's the football player
and his daughter comes and shedoes ballet and he's like a
professional athlete.
He's like, oh, I can handlethis, and they have them doing
it.
And he's like holding onto thebars, like just dripping in
(35:40):
sweat, trying to drink water andstuff and just shaking.
So yeah it was just funny tosee that.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
Yeah, and it's like I mean the competition in figure
skating is.
It's tough because everyonewants to win.
That's the truth, but you'restill just one human.
You can be the most annoyingform of human, but you are on
your own.
If you win, you win, but in youcan hate everyone and you still
(36:10):
have to dance with them.
Yeah.
You cannot be like such a badperson because they are next to
you.
They can trip you down, theycan do something.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
Little elbow to the face or something.
Oh, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
That was an accident.
They do worse.
Yeah, I mean in hero skating.
Skating too, they do quite uglythings, but in ballet like for
example one of my um friends uh,they have like a crash um glass
okay on the point s, so try tostep on that.
(36:51):
Yeah, horrible no, thank youanother day I step on the, the
tooth, the dress, with dirtyshoes over and ruin it that's
crazy yeah, no, no, no, I knewanother.
(37:11):
Like there's all kind of uglythings like you're not talking
about nice speed skating, thisis like I'm prettier I'm smarter
and I want to win yeah
Speaker 2 (37:24):
on my way that's why it's kind of like I like the
inline speed, skating themarathons, not doing the track
stuff, the pack or indoor um,because all I want to do is like
I set my time this year.
Next year I want to beat thattime I just got.
I'm my own competition, I'm theonly one I worry about.
I'm not worried about everybodyelse.
So exactly.
Speaker 3 (37:44):
But I have just to feel off of me because I have a
fright and say, at the end ofthe day, it's better to be how
do you say a lousy winner than agood loser.
(38:05):
Who cares?
Speaker 1 (38:07):
So be a crappy winner as opposed to a gracious loser.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
Nobody wants to be the gracious loser, sorry.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
Hey, if I lose, I lose.
It's funny because my son didwrestling for a while and there
was an incident where, becauseyou can't always win, even
though you go out there and youtry to, you're going to lose.
And I'm going to say a thingthat I don't know why I'm
drawing a blank on his name.
Uh, matt, something from theufc in season two of the of the
(38:40):
ultimate fighter thing, he goes.
If you've never lost a fight,you're fighting the wrong people
.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
Like your competition level isn't high enough yeah,
yeah, can be, can be, can be, itcan be.
Yeah, I remember a coach toldme it was probably my first
national and I was horriblynervous and my choreographer so
we have a technical coach and achoreographer.
My choreographer looked at meand said why are you nervous?
And I said look at the othergirl, look at this.
(39:09):
I was making a whole drama.
And she said, like this is notcompetition, this is like a.
You're crushing everyone.
And you say she said you shouldbe in another place, not here,
like no, but but nothing, likejust follow, go.
Like.
So it's like do you know?
(39:30):
Like yeah, probably should behigher level, because if it's
too easy, you're probably not inthe right place.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
Yeah, so like if you're beating everybody and
you're undefeated, but it's like, but when you do compete, you
want to go against the best atthe level you're at.
So you don't want to competewith people like, like, I mean,
I know there was a crap load ofkids that beat me in the race.
I think I came in 116th out of128.
So I mean, but that's my timeto beat for next year.
(40:03):
So now it's and I wanted to doit, to know that I could do it.
But I'm also because you guyswill be in um in august and
september at duluth and uh,dakota, north dakota, right yes
so I'll actually get to meet youthen.
So I've already met your husband, I'll actually get to meet you
too.
So but it's just one of thosethings where it's just I love
(40:27):
competition.
And then also, what happenedwith my son with wrestling is he
wrestled this guy for the thirdtime and went into triple
overtime.
The kid actually beat him thistime and his mom was like trying
to comfort him and hisgrandmother and he like he goes
look, I lost.
It's part of the sport, getover it.
He's like I'm not going to winand this is when he was in sixth
(40:49):
grade.
He's like I'm not going to winevery competition.
He goes I go out there and Igive it my best, win or lose, I
don't worry about the loss.
Speaker 3 (41:00):
I got to prepare for the next match.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (41:03):
That's very, very good thinking for an athlete.
Yeah.
I have the wrong one.
I have problems in everything Ido I.
That's why I became soobsessive.
Make me better?
I'm not sure, but um, yeah,that's the right way of thinking
(41:25):
.
That's why can we say I willraise our kids, you have
problems?
Speaker 2 (41:31):
so you're basically a perfectionist when it comes to
your skating.
Speaker 3 (41:34):
I'm terrible.
I think it's part of the balletculture.
The first time I had probably amonth learning ice skating and
I was learning for the firsttime my first spin, almost spin.
Everyone knows that spin.
It's like the first easiest one.
First thing spin everybody.
Everyone knows that skin islike the first easiest one.
Okay, I stay from 9 00 am to 900 pm on the ice just repeating
(42:05):
one exercise over and over andover again, and I say I won't
leave the ring until I spin.
Okay.
That's my level of obsession.
I won't say committed, becausethat's a whole new level of
obsession, but yes.
Speaker 2 (42:25):
Yeah.
So they always say don't worryabout the guy that knows 10,000
moves, Don't always worry aboutthe guy that did one move 10,000
times.
Speaker 3 (42:31):
Yeah, that's correct.
Speaker 2 (42:33):
So I did do a little pro wrestling back in the day,
and the one thing they taughtyou is, before you move on to
the next move, you master theone move.
Speaker 3 (42:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (42:44):
So you mastered the spin, and then you were ready to
master the next move.
Speaker 3 (42:50):
Yeah, I mean, that's basic.
I think, Well, I don't know.
I know a few sports.
I didn't.
Well, ballet's not a sport, butit's really a sport.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
I consider dancing a sport.
I mean, I love the step-upmovies and I consider them
athletes, Because there's no wayyou can dance at that level and
not be athletic.
Speaker 3 (43:10):
Yeah, you have to.
So I do ballet and ice skatingand now inline field skating and
I did and I also competed alittle bit in fencing.
Speaker 2 (43:23):
Yeah, Great, You're dangerous on the ice and you're
dangerous with what do they callthem?
Speaker 3 (43:28):
Fountain foil.
Speaker 2 (43:29):
Yeah, you're dangerous with one of those too,
tavisis, be careful and I'mbetter with a sword, yeah you're
better with a sword than thefencing foil.
Speaker 3 (43:39):
Yes, different weapons.
You have the table, yeah, andthe fencing foil yeah, just tell
tavis if he gets in trouble.
Speaker 2 (43:48):
Just 9-1-1 and I'll come help.
I don't know what I'm going todo against you, but I teach him.
He's pretty good okay, good, sohe's got a.
He's got a fighting chance.
Is what you're saying?
Speaker 3 (44:00):
he's fun like so now has your obsession carried over
into the inline oh, yes, yes,definitely like uh, at first it
was, yes, super fun because mymom is being with me in every
adventure I've ever been,because she says I'm here to
defend you, because I get intovery difficult environments,
(44:25):
like I also get into a littlebit like modeling, like TV and
all that stuff, and so it's verytough environment that everyone
wants to do something.
So she was like my loyalcompanion.
She's a skating man so sheknows everything about skating.
She knows she can be a coach.
(44:46):
Nice.
So she started going with me inline and she said I'm going to
stop thinking.
This isn't right.
I have to see the same iceskater I see normally here.
So she started I was like, oh,who cares, mom, now I get to
jump.
And she went no, that was wrong, you better jump.
You need to jump higher, youneed to do this.
(45:06):
So she was telling me, like Iwas on my ice blade.
I was oh wow, but I like thatenergy, I like like she telling
me, I can do more.
Okay.
Super, like oh, wow, yes, I cando.
And I was like frustrated, likewow, I cannot spin correctly
here and it's because the wheelsno, it's not the wheels, you
(45:28):
are not listening to yourtechnique Like okay, so I'm, I'm
like, oh, yes, yes, like Idon't know, I like the energy.
It's obsessive, yes, but Ithink he's still in, um, in
there, um dangerous line ofhealthy obsessive okay,
basically you're addicted yeah,now are you gonna end up, are
(45:53):
you gonna compete and inartistic skating within line
works.
I know go works uh, I know uh,one of the choreographers in my
state he's also a choreographerfor figure skating on quads on
(46:17):
roller okay okay, maybe ask her.
She must know like how theworld there.
And I say, well, maybe I startjust one uh exhibition, like
just something, not joshy, justfor fun, and I see what I can do
, why not?
Speaker 2 (46:34):
okay, um, I have a project that I'm working on.
I'm not going to give anydetails right now.
Well, after the show I'll tellyou.
But, um, I think it might be acool thing.
So, if you want to actually doan exhibition, or get some
people for an exhibition and wecould probably put something
together, oh, perfect yes so now, who was your biggest influence
(46:55):
for skating?
Or did it start with ballet andthen move into skating?
So your biggest influence?
Speaker 3 (47:01):
so I started ice skating because I wanted to
fence, and I begged my parentsto be a sensor yeah, yeah.
And finally they give up.
I was like probably 11, 12.
They take this one class with aprofessional team of censors in
my state.
It was quite good in thatmoment.
(47:22):
And they say, oh yeah, herclass will start in a moment.
We are just finishing theserules and one guy break a helmet
, another guy start taking outthe clothes.
It's not the real clothes, it'syour protection.
My dad was scared to death.
(47:43):
They are hearing a woman.
They are getting naked in frontof each other.
He was thoroughly like he juststepped on hell.
So I think she will never dofancy.
And look at my mom, look forher something pretty to do.
So my mom couldn't thinknothing else.
(48:04):
They do ice skating in mexico,yeah.
So yeah, she find me that.
And then they regret it because, like everything in my life, I
became so excessive that theyhave to pay a lot yeah why we
did that because your dad toldher to find another sport for
(48:28):
you.
That's why yeah and then itcomes a moment that I can pay my
things and I still get tooexpensive.
Yeah, sport for you.
Speaker 2 (48:36):
That's why yeah, so if you want to blame somebody,
it's your dad's fault.
So now, what kind of ice skatesdid you use?
Like, what's your preferred iceskates?
Speaker 3 (48:50):
um, so I try many, but I am up with jackson okay
because, uh, there was like afashion that everyone started to
try the lighter yeah oh, it canmake you this super huge,
amazing performance.
And there's a lot of myteammates to try Edea.
(49:11):
They try different, but for meright now Jackson has the
perfect needle.
Okay.
Because he has a little bit ofthe lighter thing.
I don't remember the name ofthe material.
Speaker 2 (49:28):
The what there's suede, there's leather.
What was that?
Speaker 3 (49:36):
Fiber carbon.
Oh, carbon fiber.
Yes, okay, the lowest part ofthat is lighter.
It's still very tough, strong.
Yeah.
I use the Elite, uh boot andjackson and I well, I changed
(49:59):
many times of light.
I use the vision blade until wedisappear and then I change to
the closest.
I like big um talks okay Idon't know why.
I feel very comfortable forspinning to have big toe picks.
Speaker 2 (50:18):
That?
That reminds me of the moviethe Cutting Edge too, where he
kept falling toe pick, toe pick,yeah.
And now, what kind of inlinesdo you use?
Speaker 3 (50:30):
So obviously the boot .
I just use the same bootbecause this is my boot.
Now, what kind of inlines doyou use?
So obviously the wood.
I just use the same woodbecause this is my wood.
I feel comfortable Okay.
So I use the Elite from Jackson.
Okay.
Now I don't know the number,because there's 5,400.
They're different models, butit's Elite.
Yeah.
Jackson and I'm using I try alsotwo different frames.
(50:53):
I mean I I don't have a longestcareer, obviously, I'm just
started.
Yeah, I try a frame with threewheels from jackson okay after
all for me, I say well, I'musing jackson, why not three
wheels?
And it have like a very strongbig toe stopper okay but uh, so
(51:16):
I'm used to the blades.
The blades are longer than threewheels yeah so when I try three
wheels, I feel like I was in adancing blade super short, like,
oh my god, this is not astability at all yeah my other
part of the blade, so then Ichanged to four wheels.
The frame is a big frame okayfour wheels.
(51:40):
Uh, the toe stopper is lessfancy because the one jackson
used you can move it up and down.
It's very like a strong.
It lasts longer okay, the peakframe have, um, two different
toe stoppers.
One there is a white, small andkind of goes, runs off very
(52:02):
fast, and another there is big,great, more strong one, and you
cannot move the height.
But it's perfect for me.
Why?
Because the four wheels theyare a little bit separated so it
allows me to more differentsurface without having any
trouble, because it's 68 wheelsso you need the space.
(52:26):
Yeah.
The four wheels are the samelength exactly as my legs.
Okay.
It gives me a whole differentlevel of stability.
I feel, oh, I'm on blades andthe toe stopper is super close
to the surface, to the pavement,so like just millimeters up,
(52:49):
what makes me feel exactly likemy toe pick.
Okay, so for me, that's me feelexactly like my toe pick Okay.
So for me that's been workingamazing.
I love it.
Speaker 2 (52:57):
Awesome.
So now, what advice would yougive to new up-and-coming
skaters?
Or even if they want to doballet or skating, figure
skating or even inline skating,because you've got everything
under your belt well, I will sayif you want to study ballet,
(53:20):
think twice.
Speaker 3 (53:21):
You have to be very healthy psychologically speaking
to not break down there,because if not, you're going to
end up crazy with some eatingdisorder or something else for
sure.
Okay.
You need to be incrediblystrong mentally, Physically.
Compared with the mental part,it's the easy part.
Speaker 2 (53:43):
Yeah so and now what about for figure skating?
Speaker 3 (53:47):
If you're going to enter figure skating, I would
say If you are going to enterfigure skating, I would say yes,
forget about.
Oh, we are just here to competeand have fun.
That don't exist.
If you enter figure skating,you want to win?
Yeah, don't care about all thepoor suffering of any other girl
, you care about you and win.
(54:08):
So get over and put to work.
Straight to the point Go andwin.
So get over and put to work,straight to the point, go win,
and no matter what country youare.
I hear that so many times.
Yeah.
You win over a Russian and theysay we're at the same level,
same age, why not?
Speaker 2 (54:29):
Yeah, competition is competition, no matter where
they're from I have two thumbs,two, two seats.
Speaker 3 (54:36):
It's the same thing yeah um in inline I would say I
really admire people like inkind of challenge my uh my fear.
So I really admire them and Iwill start with inline, so that
way you are the bravest and thenyou can change to whatever you
want.
Speaker 2 (54:55):
There you go.
So now, how can my listenersfollow you?
Speaker 3 (55:01):
I'm on Instagram.
I'm Tensie Trosset the name.
But it's a robot.
How do you say the A with thecircle in English?
The?
Speaker 2 (55:14):
A with the umlaut.
Speaker 3 (55:17):
That's it, tensy Tens .
Okay.
So you can test it.
It will appear, that's nice.
Speaker 2 (55:25):
Well, I appreciate you coming on today.
Speaker 3 (55:27):
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
Thank you.
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