Humain Leaders

Humain Leaders

How do we design the systems that will carry us into a flourishing future? Welcome to Humain Leaders, a space for leaders, systems thinkers, and innovators exploring how to harness technology in service of all life. Hosted by Susan Caesar, Director of AI at the International Coaching Federation, and founder of non-profit humain.org, this podcast is a journey into the heart of how we build the infrastructure of tomorrow. At Humain Org, we believe that technology should be the fabric that supports our communities, organizations, and governments, elevating human agency and protecting the natural world. We move beyond the hype to listen to real-life stories and ethical insights that help us navigate the challenges of our time with wisdom and integrity. Join us as we explore how to partner with artificial intelligence to create a world where humanity, technology, and nature thrive together. What to expect: Systemic Insights: How to build ethical AI frameworks that augment rather than replace human wisdom. Life-Centered Innovation: Conversations on harnessing technology for the benefit of the living world. Collective Movement: Stories from practitioners and experts who are shaping a future where potential flourishes at scale. Connect with us: Website: humain.org LinkedIn & Facebook: @humainorg #AI #Ethics #Future

Episodes

April 26, 2026 39 mins

Why do 70% of business transformations fail? While many blame the technology, Damian Kirk argues it is rarely a people problem—it is a design failure. 

In this episode, Damian joins us to pull back the curtain on organizational resilience. We explore why AI is currently exposing the existing cracks in leadership and how to move from "traditional management" to "modern leadership." 

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In this episode of Humain Org, organizational psychologist Michelle Caryn Paul joins the show to discuss why the leap to Artificial Intelligence is less about software installation and more about human mindset readiness. Drawing from her roots as the daughter of a labor attorney and her career in Silicon Valley, Michelle explains why traditional, top-down digital transformation models are failing in the age of AI—where 95% of compa...

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Tech veteran and AI thought leader Andy Sitison joins us to discuss his philosophy of blending human-centered design with the accelerating pace of technology.

Andy argues for a "reversed hierarchy of value," challenging the corporate world to prioritize the Planet and Society before the Economy. He explains how organizations have the opportunity to move beyond profit decisions to maximize human happiness, inclusivity, and ...

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Unlocking Digital Wisdom: The Human Side of AI and Transformation

In this illuminating episode with Barbara Wittmann, founder of the Digital Wisdom Collective, we explore why most digital transformation projects fail due to people, not technology. 

Barbara introduces the concept of the Human Operating System (HOS) and reveals how organizations can shift from rigid Control to Coherence and Speed to Sense-Making. 

Learn how to...

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Guest: Dr. Justin Trombold, President and Founder of Anderson Advisors

Host: Susan Caesar, Founder of humain.org and Director of AI for ICF

What truly holds organizations back from realizing value with AI? It's not the algorithms, the data, or the tech stack, it's the alignment, ethics, and organizational clarity that makes AI work for humans.

In this candid conversation, Dr. Justin Trombold , founder of Anderson Advisors, ...

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An Interview with Dr. Ewelina Kurtys of Final Spark

Step into the future of computation with Dr. Ewelina Kurtys, a neuroscientist and AI expert leading the charge in bio-computing at the Swiss startup Final Spark.

The exponential energy demands of current AI models pose a major climate challenge. The solution? Living neurons. Dr. Kurtys explains why this is the only way forward: neurons are an incredible one million times more energy...

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Despite billions invested in generative AI, MIT’s State of AI in Business 2025 reveals a startling truth: 95% of organizations see zero return. 

The problem isn’t the technology, it’s leadership. In this episode of humainorg, Susan Caesar unpacks the “GenAI Divide” and shows how Humain Leadership™, leadership grounded in listening, clarity, and trust, is the missing ingredient for AI adoption that truly works.

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  • Why 95%...
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In this solo episode of Humain Org, Susan Caesar, Director of Artificial Intelligence at ICF, reflects on her recent presentation to the ICF Black and Indigenous People of Color Member Resource Group, led by Kaumudi Goda, with the support of Dr. Aikyna Finch, ICF VP DEIB.

Through personal storytelling and professional insight, Susan explores:

  • How our identities shape the way we design and use AI
  • The choice we face in coaching: rep...
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August 2, 2025 29 mins

Navigating the AI revolution? This episode is for you. 

Join host Susan Caesar and fellow human-centric AI executive Nan Li as they explore how AI is fundamentally changing our world. 

Nan, a thought leader with two decades of experience, goes beyond the tech to discuss the four pillars of effective AI transformation, the critical ethical questions we must ask, and the four new "personas" that will define the jobs of the fu...

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A dynamic and thought-provoking conversation with AI and innovation expert Ray Waite, founder of Lighthouse Force. 

Join us as we explore the evolution of AI from its early days at IBM Watson to its current transformative impact on businesses of all sizes. Ray discusses the shift from "tanker" corporations to "speedboat" startups in adapting to rapid change, the critical role of human-centered design, and the eme...

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Step into the future of work with this special episode of HumainOrg, directly from the ICF Future Workforce Summit in Berlin! Join us as we unpack key insights from thought leaders on navigating rapid change, harnessing AI responsibly, and redefining human-centric leadership. 

In this episode, you'll discover:

  • The "Do Good Deeds" Framework: Tim Harrison's practical process for continuous innovation and why coa...
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Join us on HumainOrg E29 as we kick off a two-part special from the ICF Future Workforce Summit in Berlin! In this captivating episode, we dive into Day 1, exploring the evolving landscape of work, technology, and human development. 

Hear from thought leaders like Jonathan Reitz, who challenges us to consider the "Philosopher in the Loop" , and discover how coaches can serve as "working philosophers" in an AI-dri...

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Join us as we dive deep into the world of AI with Julian Warszawski, Principal Engineer at Shopify and former Engineering Lead at Airbnb. Julian shares his unique insights on the critical role of human understanding and critical thinking in the age of artificial intelligence. We explore the potential for bias in algorithms and the importance of defining "fairness" within specific domains, challenging the notion of a one-s...

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Join us for an inspiring conversation with Simon Lamb, founder and CEO of Purposeful Change and co-founder of Meaning. 

With over two decades of experience, Simon is an expert in organizational development and change, deeply passionate about helping individuals, teams, and organizations not just survive, but truly thrive through periods of change. In this episode, we'll explore his insights on culture change and change manageme...

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Join host Susan in a captivating conversation with Dr. Janet Pauketat, a social psychologist and researcher at the Sentience Institute, as they explore the evolving landscape of AI and moral consideration. 

Dr. Pauketat delves into how our perception of "humanness" and "mind" influences our willingness to extend moral concern to artificial intelligence, highlighting the significant role of perceived warmth, emoti...

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Artificial Intelligence is here, transforming how we hire, coach, and develop the workforce. But with this rapid evolution comes a critical question: How do we embrace AI's potential while safeguarding our human values and ensuring ethical, inclusive progress?

In this episode we take you inside Connections 2025, a dynamic conference in Columbus, Ohio. Hear directly from educators, HR leaders, technologists, and career developme...

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Join us for a deep dive into the world of AI-driven automation with Shirish Nimgaonkar, Founder and CEO of ebliss AI. Shirish brings a wealth of experience from Silicon Valley, venture capital, and M&A advisory, to the forefront of device and infrastructure management. 

In this episode, we uncover how eBlissAI is using a combination of classical AI, large language models, and AI agents to revolutionize how enterprises handle IT ...

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April 27, 2025 28 mins

Journey into the heart of the Vatican as we explore Pope Francis's profound vision for navigating the age of Artificial Intelligence. From his final acts of compassion to his urgent call for ethical AI development, discover how his human-centered approach challenges us to redefine technology's role in our lives. This episode delves into the urgent need for human dignity, ethical guidelines, and responsible leadership in a...

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This episode dives deep into a fascinating future where human ingenuity, artificial intelligence, and the natural world exist in harmony. Based on Susan Caesar's document from April 16th, 2025, we explore the optimistic projections of the World Economic Forum's 2025 Future of Jobs Report, which suggests AI will generate significantly more jobs globally by 2030, even while some roles are displaced. We analyze current U.S. ...

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This podcast episode of "humainorg" hosted by Susan Caesar features Michelle Ansell, a Managing Partner at Douglas Jackson, an executive search and recruitment consultancy. Michelle is described as a leading expert in executive search with over two decades of experience helping C-Suite leaders hire impactful and diverse leaders who achieve long-term success. She specializes in senior, diverse appointments within customer-...

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