The most sophisticated security tools fail when leaders don't understand the business context they're supposed to protect. Michael Freeman, Head of Threat Intelligence at Armis, learned this lesson during a major security incident where his team had the intelligence from day one but missed the breach because they didn't understand what was important to the business. The most effective security leaders aren't just technical experts, he tells Ben, they're business translators who understand that at the core of every decision lies human motivation.
Michael discusses his evolution from pure technical execution to leadership through strategic energy management rather than time management, scheduling his calendar around the types of thinking required rather than random meeting distribution. He also shares his hiring methodology: he gives candidates real problems, not to test what they know, but to observe how they approach what they don't know, because the questions people ask reveal more about their leadership potential than their technical answers.
Stories We’re Telling Today:[25:23-25:42] “Another thing I've found to help me manage that is not managing my time, but manage my energy. So in the past, it'd be really hard to contact switch where I'm on one meeting, where I'm doing sales for two to three meetings, then I'm in three deep technical meetings, and the first one or two, I'm like, wait, my mind is not there just yet..”
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