#6 – “Food. Sleep. HypeFriends.” with Dr. Ariana Hoet

The doctor is in! This week, pediatric psychologist Dr. Ariana Hoet of The Kid’s Mental Health Foundation joins the hosts to discuss the urgency of the loneliness epidemic and emphasizes the importance of treating friendship as a core need just like food, sleep, and water.

Join our friendship revolution, one HypeFriend (and one episode) at a time!

Episode Transcript

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- Describe it. It's better texture.
- Way better texture than
- Way Better texture than the last time.
- What?- Oh, oh.
- What is that? Aftertaste? Oh my gosh.
- Hi, I, I'm wearing my

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kids' mental health foundationsweatshirt today for
- Our I see that for ourspecial, special guest.
I see that. I love that.
- I know we're welcoming a newperson to our neighborhood,
- And I'm giving you abright pink today for,
just, for our special guest.
'cause I'm so excited about it,
and it makes me thinkpink. I don't know why.
- You know what? Pink issuch a good color on you.

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I feel like you don't wear pink enough,
and I feel like you should.
- Well, thank you. I appreciate that.
Well, pink moment, I'm just saying.
Well, wait, we gotta getinto it. We can't do it.
Let's do this.
Hey everybody, I'm Michael Ja Scott.
- And I'm Ashley Eckstein.- And welcome to HypeFriend

(01:05):
- Oh, I'm so excited abouttoday, Ashley. I really am.
I'm, I'm, we we're like,we're like getting into it.
We're like really getting into it.
And we're, and we'rebuilding our Hype hood,
which is really exciting. So I'm,
- Yes, - I'm thrilled thatwe get to, to do this today.
And it's so important.
And you have been such a beaconof light, especially for,
well, I won't give too much away, but,

(01:27):
but with all of your amazingmental health Monday, all
of all of that work that you'redoing, I'm, I'm just excited
that we get to, to havethis guest be a part
of now our hype.
Put, it's gonna be a guest today,
and then it's our neighbor.
It's our friend. It's all the things.
- Yes. Yes.
I am thrilled to introduce you to our,

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our new neighbor today, Dr.
Ariana Hoit, and we'll meether in just a little bit.
But, you know, I'm oneof those people that I,
I genuinely love connecting my friends, so
- Yes, that is true.
Everybody that I, that is very true.
She connects, literallyconnects the dots on
like so many people.
She's like, I got you here, ba blah.

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Oh, you want, oh, okay, great.So you can talk. Okay, great.
And then that film will, I mean,
it's literally crazy on themost amazing, like, you know,
a monumental level.
I'm like, holy moly.
- You know, I, I, I kind ofconsider that one of my, like,
superpowers is just connection.
And, but while I, I tryto bring other people joy

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and connecting people,
but really, it just bringsme so much joy when I know
that I bring two people togetherthat should be connected
and hopefully they form a friendship.
I mean, there's, there's nothingthat brings me greater joy.
So joy. We'll, we'll, we'llget to that in a minute.
But you know what also brings me joy?
- What's that?- Is baking.

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So, Michael, I know wecan't always do Ashley Bakes
because, because you're not here.
And sometimes, you know, Idon't have the time to bake,
but I, I love it and I'mnot always great at it,
- Which is my husband's favorite PS

(03:16):
- But I'm gonna have a very special guest
for Ashley Bakes today, sinceyou can't be here to try it.
Oh, my OG taste tester. My husband David.
Oh. So let's bring inDavid for Ashley Bakes.

(03:37):
Okay. David, come on in.
Welcome to HypeFriend.
What are you doing to me?
We have trying so hard
to get our husbands on an episode.

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- Jeremy, you're next. Yep.
I'm looking at, Jeremyis next. Yep, he's next.
- But David, welcome.- Thank you,
- David.
I must say you look like a, you,
you make a gorgeous Michael James Scott.
Oh, thank you. I appreciate that.

(04:19):
Oh my gosh, I'm so excitedabout this right now. So,
- Michael, I, I kind ofwrangled David into this
because, you know, Ilove baking, like I said.
- Yes, yes. - And you know,since you couldn't be here,
I didn't wanna not do the segment
because baking brings me such joy.
And so, like, I, like I said,David's my OG taste tester.

(04:41):
He's, he's, he's always trying my bakes
and I know he'll be honest with me.
- Yeah. Oh yes.- Sometimes too honest.
- So what did you bake today?
I'm, I'm like, I'm, I'm like,I'm ready. Like, what is it?
- Well, okay, so David, first

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of all, he's not really a dessert person
or sweets person, whichis kind of sacrilege.
- Yes, yes. I'm a pizza person.
- He is a pizza person. We know this.
But, but I, I try to gethim to like, my, my bakes.
So David is actually a pudding person.

(05:25):
- Yeah. Oh,- Random, right?
- Okay.- So he likes, he likes vanilla pudding,
sometimes chocolate pudding
and Whole Foods had a perfect pudding like
box mixture that I couldmix with some dairy free,
like oat milk.
And it made the perfect pudding.

(05:47):
And so I made it all the time.It was delicious, foolproof.
And then they've stopped carrying it.
- Oh,- Oh, whole Foods. Whatcha doing?
Where is your pudding mix?
So I've had to resort to try
to make my own pudding,

(06:07):
because we both need to be dairy free.
And I am on the searchfor the perfect pudding.
In full disclosure.
I, I've, I I alreadyhave one failed attempt.
- Oh yeah.- And David tried it.
What did you think of my first?
- Oh yeah.- I don't even,
that was the most what?

(06:29):
Futuristic pudding I've ever futuristic
what you would see like on the Jetsons
or something like that.
And it was, it was nothingto do with pudding.
Lemme tell you that. I don'teven know what it was. It
- Was a little chewy.
- Have you got chewy pudding? That's not,
- That's crunchy.

(06:50):
Well, pudding's notsupposed to be crunchy.
- I know. But it was likeyou had to chew it to eat it.
- Now, Michael, it did not- Dissolve in your mouth. Oh.
Oh God.
- Now Michael, I hear that this is like
your worst nightmare.
- Literally.
It is a full nightmare right now. Like,

(07:13):
- So you don't like,like, puddings or jellos.
- Don't even say it. Don'teven say it the G word.
- Well,- Oh God.
- My first attempt was very gelatinous.
- Yes. Yes.- Okay.

(07:33):
So, so I, I decided to, so
this is a homemade pudding.
It's a vanilla pudding.I added some bananas.
So I made this a bananapudding today. Okay.
There is an unintended secret ingredient.
- Oh gosh.- Keynote keyword. Unintended,

(07:57):
- Unintended, unintended,
unintended secret distract or something.
Like, why do you have an unintended,
- I'll tell you in a minute.
- Why am I sweating?
And I'm not even having the,like, I'm starting to sweat.
- So un undo the top.
Give it a whiff.

(08:19):
- You've ever had a smell yourpudding before? You can eat.
- What, what is- This, Michael? There might be an
open room in the house after.
- What does it smell like?
- Are you serious rightnow? It doesn't smell bad.
Yes it does. What is that?

(08:45):
- I can not smell.
I'm not gonna tell youuntil after you take a bite.
- I am dead right now.
- This is the person that like,
you put something in the garbage can
and like she's across the room, like,
oh my gosh, I can smellit. I can smell same.
- Okay, this is alreadyless gelatinous than the
first pass.
- All ready? And then we aregonna, y'all gonna taste it?

(09:06):
So here we go. 3, 2, 1.
Hmm. Hmm. What
- Are we, what are we?
What are what? What is it? Describe
- It. It's better texture.
- Way better texture
- Than way better texturethan the last time.
- What?- Oh.

(09:27):
- Oh, what is that?Aftertaste. Oh my gosh.
Oh, smokes. It hits you.
It's like, like grass. I don't know.
It's like, I thought it was really good.

(09:48):
- And then it, so
man, but that is animprovement on last time.
No, it was not. Well, so
- Last time you had just dealwith like, the texture of it.
Now you gotta deal with theaftertaste last time that bad.

(10:09):
But it was just thetexture that is terrible.
- Well, okay.
There was an unfortunateincident that happened.
- Like, I was, like- I
said, to continuously stir and I did,

(10:32):
but I had the stove toohigh and I burned it.
- Oh no. So all of a
- Sudden I see like, like
- Was that why you screamed last night?

(10:53):
- Where are we on our rating? Right.
You know, in terms
of the Ashley bakes ratescale, where are we?
If we were going from, it's
- Willing to take- Another bite.
I wanna try the banana part. Okay.
'cause if the banana parttastes like that, then my,
my rating will definitely go even
- Further down.
See, you gotta give it, yougotta give it a fair shake
that had a chunk on it thathad like a brown chunk.

(11:15):
Okay. See the banana's better
- Because of the banana.
- Oh,- Because of the banana.
I mean, at the, at thehighest level I could ever
- Do.
Wait, is this a scale out of a five or 10?
- I mean, well, youprobably want me to go 10.
- Okay. - I mean, like,because I'm, I'm gonna go a two

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because like the banana,the banana like, is fine.
- Okay. But- That
- Pudding, it would've been a zero,
- A two out of 10.
- A 10. No, no. Like,- Oh my God,
- You shot her face.
- Well, you know what this means, Michael,
because clearly I stillhave to be on my search

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for the perfect pudding recipe.
- Yes. Yes. - And so next timeyou're here, I will attempt
the perfect pudding. David, thank you.
- You're welcome.- Thank you
for joining us on HypeFriend.
You are now officially free to go,
but there's no promisesthat, that you don't have

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to try my next bake.
- Very sad
and maybe happy that I was not there.
- I don't, I don't. Are you really sad?
I mean, when it's gelatinous, I know
- That word is literally, oh gosh.

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That, that, that, thatgoes into the gripes area.
We're gonna go, as we go intoour next segment of the hype,
the gripe, the word gelatinous
is literally crazy to me.
I don't know why, butthat word, I don't know,
there's something aboutthe word gelatinous

(13:05):
- It.
Yeah. I feel like to describe something
as gelatinous is just not appetizing.
And that would be the perfect word for
what I bake today. Gelatinous.
- Well, there you have it.- Oh my gosh.
I think David is griping about

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my Ashley bakes today.
But I think we should get into our
Hypes and Gripes, Michael.
- Yes. Let's definitelyget into some Hypes
and Gripes for today.
Oh gosh. Well, what, what, what,
what are your Hypes and your Gripes?
Ms. Ashley Ecktein?
- You know, I wasthinking a lot about this.
I actually have many Hypes

(13:46):
and Gripes right now, soit was kind of hard to pick
what I wanted to talkabout for this episode.
But I, I wanna talkabout when you're staying
with a friend, so, ooh, which this is kind
of a loaded topic,
but I feel like friendshipscan really be tested when you

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stay with someone.
Ooh, right. So, okay.
My hype is, is when a friendcomes to stay with you,
because I love when friendscome to stay with me.
I'm one of those people where I'm like,
Hey, come to Orlando.
Let's go to Disney World.We're gonna have the best time.
You know, I, I like to say
that Disney Magic is my love language.

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I love to just sharesome Disney magic when
people come and stay.
So that's my hype. I've had alot of house guests this year.
I, I I love my house guests.
I love my friends who come to visit.
- Including your friend,Michael James, Scott.
- Yes. We have been includingmy friend Michael James Scott,
and his husband Jeremy Merrifield.

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I love when y'all come tostay. And that is only hyped.
There are no gripes whenyou come to stay. No gripes.
So let me, let me preface, preface that,
that when I'm about to go into this gripe,
I am not talking about any
of my friends specifically at all.
So please, no one take this personally.

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In fact, it's, it's, my gripe is, is more
of me learning, I think,
when I go into somebody else's space.
But my gripe is,
is when people come into your space
and they don't treatyour space like you want

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it to be treated.
- Mm. - And you know, I think,I think people really need
to be mindful that when yougo into somebody else's space,
you know, you mightnot do things the same.
You might not take your shoes off.
You might not have yourrefrigerator perfectly organized.

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You might not make your bed,you might not do certain things
that your friends do,
but if you're going into theirspace, that's their space.
So I think it's importantto find out kind of
what the house rules areand respect those rules.
So this is totally a bad example.

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And, you know, our good friend Brett Ien,
he's gonna be like, Ashley,why'd you bring this up?
For lack of a betterexample, I'll bring it up.
I stay with them a lot.
They actually have a guestroom, and they're so kind.
It's, it's always open to me.
And I can always go
and stay with Brett and his husband Beau.
But when I go there, Iopen up their refrigerator

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and it is like perfectly organized.
Like, perfectly. Like everythingis perfectly lined up.
Everything has its space. Now.
When you come to my house,
our refrigerator is anything but that.
It looks like a tornado wentoff inside our refrigerator.
There is no rhyme or reason.

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Nothing has a place.
And I mean, I'm, I'm actuallyvery embarrassed by it,
but my husband David,
and I, it's just not theway our brain thinks.
You know, we're lucky if itmade it into the refrigerator.
So when I go to Brett
and B'S house, I make sure,

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'cause sometimes I'll go grocery shopping
and I'll, I'll bring thethings that I want to eat
and put it in the refrigerator.
I make sure that I, II line everything up.
Everything is in its proper place.
And especially if they buy things for me,
I put it back in the placethat I grabbed it from.
So on, on one hand,that's a silly example,

(17:44):
but I think it's a goodexample of saying, you know,
I am going into their space
and wanna make sure that Itreat it as they treat it.
And I think where friendshipscan sometimes be tested
and go wrong is when you know,
somebody comes into your space and,
and they, they don't respect it

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and they, you know, they kind
of bring their own chaos into your world.
And, and the older I'vegotten, I try to be mindful of,
you know, as soon as I getto someone's someone's space,
I'm like, well, what are the rules?
You know, what, what shouldI do? What should I not do?
What, what do you like,what do you not like?
So yeah, I guess that's mygripe is when somebody comes in

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and just like, doesn't respect the space.
- Now listen, I I definitely hear you.
I, I, and I appreciate, Idefinitely what you're saying,
but I also, I have opened your,
what you're calling atornado refrigerator,
and it literally has every typeof milk available possible.
So I I, so for me, I'm,I'm in, like, I'm in for

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that, the tornado of it all.
There's every type of milk,every type of water, every type
of cheese.
So I'm, I mean, I'm, I'm all in. I get it.
I hear, I definitely hear you about it.
But listen, I'm, I'm, I'm,I'm, I'm in for the tornado of,
of what, of what you'reand quotes tornado is.

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It's y'all. It's not a tornado.
It's, it's literally like agrocery store, I think of like,
every, every aisle in the grocerystore in the refrigerator.
- It's true, it's true. It's not pretty.
But that's kind of,that's kind of my life.
I, you know, it's not necessarilypretty how I get there,
but I'll get there just fine.

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But it's, it's not pretty.
So anyways, Michael, what's,what's your Hype and Gripe
- To me?
Oh, gosh. So my, my hype,
it's, it's actually a hype
and a gripe kind of mixed together.
But we, my husband
and I, we've lost our French

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bulldog, miss Chloe,Felicia Chanel Merrifield.
And it, it is,
and for those, you know, for those
our our our community outthere, grief is, is is tough
or on so many levels.
And, and there's, andthere's so many stages.
My hype is the fact that we

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had this amazing creature in our lives
for 11 beautiful years.
And my husband
and I truly, I mean,
she brought all the joy
and love that you can everimagine, to the point where we,

(20:42):
we, I don't even think wereally realized how much it was.
I mean, she just crackedour hearts open in the most
big, brilliant, beautiful way.
And so my hype is loving on this creature
and how this creature taught us so much

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and, and truly,
truly made us look atthings in a different way.
My gripe is, is that we lost her.
And, and that we lost herto, we lost her to cancer.
We lost her to lymphoma.
She battled two and a halfyears with this disease,

(21:25):
which is, you know, letalone for a human, you know,
some two and a halfyears is, is a long time.
So you can imagine on thatlittle body what that was.
But she was a fighter,
and she fought to thevery, very last breath to,
to, to, to, to stay.
And so my gripe is truly like,

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really not realizing howhard it was going to be.
We knew it was gonna be hard,
but man,
it has been harder than wecould ever have imagined.
And
- Ugh,- That is that, that's, that is,
that's, that's where we are.
You know, that's where we are today.
And, and, you know, Ican, of course, you know,

(22:07):
you you say like, it's gonnabe okay and all those things,
but right now it's, itsucks and it's tough.
Yeah. And it's, and it is, it is.
It's like, it feels so unfairon all on so many levels.
And that's just where I am today.
You know, like just being, being truthful
and honest with, with, withour community out there, of,

(22:28):
of this is my stage rightnow, of just feeling so sad
and, and trying to stay in the light.
But, you know, it's hard, it's hard to,
- Michael, I am so sorry.
And I'm sending all of my love to you
and your husband Jeremy.
Thank you. And you know, I, I didn't get

(22:50):
to meet Miss Chloe, butI feel like I know her
because, you know, you wouldalways post her on Instagram
and she just, you know,or I'd see her on Zoom
and she was just themost beautiful creature.
And, you know, I thinkthe thing with pets,
and we're both pet people,unfortunately, you know,

(23:11):
my husband's listening to thisand he's like, no, we're not
because he wants a dog so bad.
But we, we travel so much.
So unfortunately we don'thave a pet of our own,
but all of our family members have pets,
and pets are family members.
I mean, they are bottom line.
So when, when you lose a pet, it's,

(23:32):
it's such a loss.
- It's an interesting thing with pets,
because they are, they are,they're like, they're your,
they are the definition of HypeFriend.
Yes. Right? Just, just with,
with you coming home.
And they are there no matter what.
I mean, it's, it is, they are,they are. They hype you up.

(23:52):
And, and, and yes, that'swhat they live for.
And, you know, so there, there's a,
there's an incredible thingabout, you know, friendship
and your, your, your loveand your, your relationship
and that connection with your pet.
And so it's, it's, it's a, it'sa beautiful, beautiful thing
and so much to learn from.
So I'm sending, sending alot of love to those, some

(24:14):
of our community out therewho may have lost their pets
or, you know, have experiencedthat and what that is
and what that, what that feels like.
'cause it's, it's a, it's a tough thing.
But I am grateful that thatfriends have reached out and,
and just given love virtuallyon the phone, all the things.
And we feel it. So, thank you.
- Well, Michael, so I wasthinking a lot today about the

(24:36):
good gossip.
- Ooh, yes. Yes. Okay.
So what you got, you gotsome good gossip for us,
- You know?
Yes. And this one is,is also very bittersweet
because it, it, it'sabout a friend of mine
who I, I only met once,his name was Spencer.

(25:01):
We lost Spencer. Spencerlost his battle to cancer.
But Spencer absolutely changed my life,
and he'll always be a part of my life.
I was so fortunate tobe introduced to Spencer
by a fellow Star Wars actress.
Her name is Emily Swallow.

(25:22):
She plays the armor inshows like The Mandalorian.
And Spencer was comingto Walt Disney World
for his Makea Wish, andEmily couldn't be there.
And she asked me, shesaid, Hey, Spencer is a fan
of yours, of a soka.
Would you mind just showing up

(25:43):
to Galaxy's Edge atDisney's Hollywood Studios
and just saying hi to Spencer?
Well, Spencer and hisfamily, they were there.
I worked with Spencer'smom to make it a surprise
for Spencer and theMake-A-Wish Foundation.
They, they just, they are,did such a wonderful job. An
- Incredible organization,

(26:04):
- Incredible organization,setting up Spencer
and his family for just an amazing day
at Star Wars Galaxy's Edge.
So I show up and I wasn't sure kind of
what the plan was, whatI was walking into,
if I was just gonna say hello,
and if the family, you know,had to run off to other plans.

(26:26):
But I was up for anything.
- Hmm.- Well, I got there.
It was just the most amazing surprise.
Spencer was just such a light,
such a light in this world.
And the, the first thing he had
to do was make a light saber.

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Well, Spencer asked meif I would stay with him,
and he was in a wheelchair at the time,
and he asked if I wouldpush his wheelchair
and go in with him andmake his lights saber.
And so of course, I washonored to, to join him.
But as I ask abouttheir plans for the day,

(27:08):
other than making a lightsaber
and making a droid, thatthat's all they had planned.
And I ran into my friend Roberto.
Now this good gossip is about Roberto
and all of the amazing Disney cast members
who immediately spr into action.

(27:28):
So I, I saw Roberto
and I, I quietly shared with Roberto what,
what was happening andwhy I was there that day.
There, there was nomedia. There was no press.
This was honestly justkind of, Emily asked me
to go meet her friend Spencer.
And that's what I did.
Disney, you know, otherthan Make a Wish kind

(27:49):
of setting up the experience for Spencer
and his family, this wasn'tlike an official visit.
So Roberto
and the other Disney castmembers didn't even know
that we were gonna be there.
So I see my friend Roberto
and I, I quietly tell him,you know, what's happening?
And we went in and we didthe lightsaber experience.

(28:11):
And when we came, which was incredible.
So shout out to all of theamazing Disney cast members.
- The light sabersituation is no joke. It's
- No joke.
It's amazing. Absolutely amazing.
We came out and Roberto met us.
You know, all of this is,is in, in, in character.

(28:33):
I feel like I'm breaking a little bit
of Disney magic at the moment.
But, you know, when you'reat Star Wars, Galaxy's Edge,
and on the planet of Batou,everything is, is in character.
You're Yes. In world.
So Roberto met us,
and literally within that 20 minutes
that we were in therebuilding Spencer's lightsaber,

(28:56):
all the cast members foundout that Spencer was there.
And the rest of you know,
their time had already been planned out.
Roberto met us, and we wereescorted from place to place.
All of the characterscame out to meet him,
and they took
what was already the most magical day into

(29:19):
something that was beyondall of our expectations.
And I just, I, I had toshare this today as part
of the good gossip, becauseagain, none of this was planned.
- Yeah.- This was Roberto seeing something
that was happening, and hedecided to make a magical moment,
and he decided to pull inthe rest of the Disney cast

(29:42):
to make this as magical
as it could possibly be for Spencer.
And at the end of the day,when it was done, we were there
for three hours.
And when it was all done,Spencer looked up at me
and, oh, I, I, I, Isomehow held it together
because I just, there was so much joy.

(30:04):
And he looked up at me and he said,
this was better than Iever could have imagined.
And he said, thank youfor doing this for me.
And, you know, I was justhonored to be there to experience
with this, with him.
But I wanted to share thisstory, to share with Roberto,
to share with the Disney cast members,

(30:27):
because they did that.
Thank you to all of the castmembers that made that day
so magical for Spencer.
Thank you to the Make-A-Wish Foundation
for providing this opportunity to Spencer
and his family also thank you.
To give kids the world, Spencer

(30:47):
and his family were stayingat Give Kids The World.
So it was just an incredible experience.
And I had to share this good gossip story
to just give a shout out.
I love that. To all ofthe Disney cast members
and make a Wish team members
and give kids the world teammembers who are working so hard
and doing so much good when honestly,

(31:12):
they weren't asked to.
Yeah. Roberto wasn't asked todo that. Nobody was watching.
He did it on his own
because it was the right thing to do. So
- That's amazing.
That is some good gossip.That is some good gossip, yes.
Oh my gosh, that's sogood. Thank you for sharing
- That.
Thank you. Thank you.
Well, well, Michael, speakingof good gossip, you're about

(31:35):
to find out how amazing my friend Dr.
Aria, who it's, is it time? Is it
- Time?
It's time. Oh gosh, it's time.
- Okay. We have anotherneighborhood segment,
and I'm just so excited tointroduce you to the one,
the only Dr.
Ariana Hoit. She is a good friend of mine.

(31:55):
You know, I've been workingwith the Kids Mental Health
Foundation for many, many years.
- Yes. - And I'm a hugeadvocate for mental health,
but I am learning,
I am not an expert in mental health.
And I have an amazing team led by Dr.
Ariana Hoit that I work
with at the Kids Mental Health Foundation.

(32:16):
And I'm just a sponge.
They've been teaching me somuch about mental health.
And so of course, as we'rebuilding our Hype hood,
as we're building our neighborhood,
we need a neighborhood doctor. Right?
- Amen. Yes. We need aneighborhood theus gorgeous doctor.
- Well, she's that, she'samazing. And you know what?

(32:41):
Nothing brings me greater joy,truly, than to introduce two
of my friends.
You know, just to do alittle introduction, Dr.
Ariana Hoit is a pediatricpsychologist at Nationwide
Children's Hospital,
but she's also theexecutive clinical director
for the Kids Mental Health Foundation.
It's a free resourcefor kids mental health.

(33:04):
They're truly like the leaders of
children's mental health in our nation.
You can go to kids mental health
foundation.org, but guess what?
We have her here on HypeFriend,
and she's gonna teach us all about how
to be the best hype friend.
So let's bring her in.Michael, please welcome Dr.
Ariana Hoet. Yay. Yay.

(33:28):
- Oh my gosh. Dr. Hoit,welcome to HypeFriend.
We are so happy to have you.
Ashley, obviously has, hashad you all have been friends,
and y'all have been, y'allhave been together for a while.
And it is incredibleto be able to, to hear
so many amazing storiesfrom Ashley about you
and also learn of your work.
So I am so thrilled that youare here, and I am so excited.

(33:51):
It's literally, I'mlike, I'm meeting the Dr.
Hoit, like I'm meeting theDr. Hoit. So this is amazing
- At you guys.
I'm so excited to be here.
We are honored to haveyou, you know, for those
that have been following me for a while,
you are familiar with Dr.
Hoit. I do Mental Health Monday,
Instagram lives every month.
And Dr. Hoit joins me.

(34:13):
And we talk about varioustopics about mental health
and mental wellbeing and mindfulness.
And we've, we've covered quite the,
the array of topics.
And I've been doing MentalHealth Monday since 2018.
And so I'm just honored
that I've had the chance to work with Dr.
Hoit as well as on many projects.

(34:36):
So I did a, a, a series
for Star Wars called StarWars Mindful Matters.
It's on YouTube for Star Wars kids.
You can just type in StarWars Mindful Matters.
I also worked with Dr. Hoit ona Star Wars book called Star
Wars Every day, wherewe have some mindfulness
exercises in there.
And, you know, I have theseideas, but then I go to Dr.

(34:58):
Hoit and I say, okay, froma clinical perspective,
is this correct?
And we just make a good team. So, Dr.
Hoit, I could go on and on
and on about how amazing you are
and how awesome it hasbeen to work together.
But we're gonna get intoit. We're gonna get into it.
'cause we have so many questions for you.

(35:19):
First of all, what doyour patients call you?
Because I've asked you this before,
but I wanna, you know, I wannakind of set the tone for,
for Michael, I, in aformal sense, say, Dr.
Ariana Hoit. But what doyour patients call you?
- You know what, that's a great question
because I do introduce myself, Dr.
Ariana Hoit, but then afterthat, it's just Ariana.

(35:41):
My friends call me Ari.
My family calls me Ari, butin clinic it is just Ariana.
Some patients will stillcall me Dr. Ariana.
But yeah, Ari is fine.
- I mean, I might stillgive you the doctor title
because you know, listen, youare a doctor of something,
and that is, that's, that's amazing.
So I like saying, Dr. Hoit,
- You what many

(36:01):
of my most excited time whenI book a plane ticket is
to pick, to pick that littledoctor when you're writing.
I'm like, I'm gonna click it.
- You earned it. I goback and forth between Dr.
Hoit and Dr. Ari.
So I'm probably gonna callyou both, but you know, Dr.
Hoit, see, I just did it.I said, Dr. Dr. Hoit. Okay.

(36:22):
So we're building our hype hood,
we're building ourneighborhood kind of inspired
by Mr. Rogers neighborhood,
and we would love for you tobe our neighborhood doctor.
And just come on from time totime, answer our questions,
because we're on a journey.
We are starting a friendship revolution.
One HypeFriend at a time.Yes. But we're learning, right?

(36:47):
Yes. You know, part ofHypeFriend actually
ha came from many of our conversations
and a lot of the work that we do
with the Kids Mental Health Foundation.
And you had sent me anarticle about loneliness
and how there's a lonelinessepidemic happening.

(37:07):
And, you know, Michael and I were talking
and we were just like, what can we do?
How can we help?
And so that's part ofwhy HypeFriend was born.
But can we just talk aboutloneliness for a second?
What is the connectionbetween loneliness and,
and mental health?

(37:29):
- Yeah. So we know that feeling connected,
feeling like you belong,like you have your friends
and your group and your placein the world, your community
is a basic human need.
So I'm talking like, weneed water, we need food,
we need fresh air and oxygen.
We need friends.
And so right now, we are

(37:52):
so isolated as a community
that the Surgeon Generala few years ago released a
statement saying, we are, thisis a public health crisis.
We're too isolated, we're too lonely.
And so of course, we'reseeing increased depression,
anxiety, suicidal thoughts and behaviors.
It's because people arefeeling so isolated.
And so this is so important,what you guys are talking about

(38:16):
and being a HypeFriend
and being there for eachother, it is a basic need.
We all need that.
- I wanna go back to kindof what you just said,
because, you know,you've taught me so much,
but I haven't looked at it this way.
You know, as, as we kind ofmake our to-do list for the day,
and we list out our basic needs, you know,

(38:37):
your basic needs are food, water, sleep,
friendship.
I think on most people'slists of basic needs,
friendship is not on the list.
I mean, Michael, have youthought of it that way?
- I've never thought of that way.
And you literally said, and you,
and you compared it to oxygen,which is that, that, so

(38:59):
as you're saying that, Ashley, like
that same kind of a thing.
It's, it's the list.
It is, it's literally apart of our everyday need.
I've never thought of it that way.
And it's, it's actually pretty,
it's actually pretty profound to think of,
of it in that way.
And especially when you do have a list,
because that's a actuallypretty tangible thing for you

(39:19):
to, to think about.
You know what I mean?Like, it's a very special,
tangible thing to think about.
And I also don't, I feellike I forget about that.
You know, like I myself,like I forget about that.
And when you do think about that as a,
a specific tangible need,
I think it could change theperspective of your whole day,

(39:40):
just from the start.
- Well, okay, you mentionedtangible, Michael,
and this is something
that we've already been talkinga lot about on HypeFriend,
about connection in person.
Hmm. You know, yes, we're allconnecting virtually right
now, and that is a beautiful thing
that we have the ability to do.

(40:01):
But one thing that, thatyou've taught me, Dr.
Hoit, and, and
what thing we talked abouthere on the podcast is the
importance of getting together in person.
The importance of physicaltouch, of giving someone a hug
of, you know, being ableto look someone in the eye
and, you know, sitting down
and, you know, having a meal with them.

(40:23):
So can you talk aboutthe importance of like,
physical connection and, andtouch and, and being in person
and, and having like atangible interaction?
- Yeah, I mean, when itcomes to connection, it's,
it's about the quality, right?
It's not about I have hundreds of friends,
but are these friends there for us?

(40:44):
Do they make us feel good?
Do they make us feel proud of ourselves
and push us to be better?
And so that in-person piece is important.
It's being able to distract yourself
from the world, right?
Distract yourself fromthe stressors of the world
and be there, wake that person.
And I think

(41:05):
what happens a lot right nowis we find ourselves busy
and we start to feel likewe don't have time for that.
And phones do help us connect more,
but the quality is not the same.
It is not the same as I ampausing my life to be here
with you, right?
You are important to me.
We are stopping everything
and we're gonna have this meal together,
or watch this movie together,

(41:26):
whatever we're going on a walk.
But it is that, that time to just connect.
And that is your only goal in that moment.
It is very, very different thanI'm gonna send a quick text
or a phone call on my drivehome from work, right?
It's, it's the qualitythat really matters.
- I am pausing my life to be with you.
I love that, that, thatsort of takeaway in, in, in

(41:49):
that statement, because it is, it is,
there's an interesting thing about,
because everyone's busy, right?
I mean, the word, the wordlike I'm, I'm busy is like, I
feel we all, it's like it, right?
I feel like everyone says it so much.
Like there's, it's true. And
- That, and that kind ofsometimes bothers me when somebody

(42:10):
says, oh, you're so busy,I don't wanna bother you
because you're so busy.
And, and yes, it's true.
But at the same time,no, I, I might be busy,
but I'm choosing to, to be with you
and spend my time with you.
And so, you know, I like,I want you to bother me.
It's okay. I want your friendship.

(42:31):
- You know, what I don't loveis there's this new pattern on
social media where it's kind of a joke,
but I'm like, this isn't funny guys.
Like the, the memes of,
when you look at yourshared calendar as an adult,
you look at your calendarand it's like, well,
I guess I'll see you in two years
because we're just too busy to meet up
with our friends, right?
And it's this constant jokeon social media of, oh,

(42:53):
as adults you wanna see your
friend, but you don't have time.
And it's like, no, we, thisisn't funny. We have to stop.
We have to spend time together.
You have to find time for the people that,
that you care about.
- So that's, that is Dr.
Fierce Ariana Ho's gripe right there.
That is, that is, that is, that is,
that is your gripe for, for today.

(43:14):
And I, and that's a, that be,that's a, that's a really,
that's interesting toobecause there's, you know,
there's this, there is a,it is now become so normal
that it is actually like a,a, a playful thing like that,
which is very interesting interms of, of, of, we've moved
so past it being in ourreality that we make, you know,

(43:35):
that we pause our life forfriends that we've now, it,
it's become more of a joke.
Like we, it we're so numb toit that it's become more of a,
of a, of a funny thing.
And I, that that's a, that'sactually really great for us
to highlight that and remember that
because that's, that's,that's really extreme.
- Dr. Hoit, we actually do asegment called Hypes and Gripes

(43:58):
and things that we're hyped about
and things that we'rekind of griped about.
So that's what Michael was
referencing, is that's your gripe.
But in terms of friendship,what are you hyped about?
- Oh my gosh. I mean, friendship is just
the most powerful tool.
I, once I was once asked,if you had one topic

(44:19):
that you could say, this isthe thing for mental health,
this is the thing thatwill protect people.
Hardest question I've ever gotten.
But also not really, becauseI said it's connection,
it's belonging, it's our community. It is
- Research- Finds.
When we look at, for example,kids with a lot of trauma,
difficult life experiences,
we look at people living indifficult systems of poverty.

(44:44):
Those that are more connected tend
to be more resilient, tend to be better.
So I am talking even in theseextremes of people going
through really hard life situations,
those friendships are a buffer to them.
And, and research alsotells us the more quality

(45:04):
connections you have, the longer lifespan,
the less health problems you have.
I mean, it, it is truly thismagic wand. It it helps us.
So, again, to go back, it is a basic need.
We have to prioritize this for ourselves.
- Okay, what you just said is so powerful
and so amazing
and actually addressessomething that, that

(45:26):
I encounter a lot
because people often say tome, they're like, thank you
for doing your mental health Mondays.
You know, I sometimesI just feel so helpless
and I don't, I don't know how I can help.
And you know, what youjust said is exactly
how we all can help.
We can all be a HypeFriend.

(45:48):
We can all be thatfriend in someone's life,
to make them feel seen, tomake them feel like they belong
and, and to be there for them.
And, you know, to hear you say that,
that is like the mostpowerful piece of advice is,
is really incredible.
And Michael, I I feel likewe're all onto something,

(46:10):
you know, with, with our, withour HypeFriend community,
anyone listening here, we cantruly all make a difference.
And that, that's incredible.
I mean, Michael, aren't youkind of shocked to hear that? I,
- I'm, I'm, I'm shocked.
And also it, it, it'sreally beautiful to, to hear
because it's so important forus and why we did start this.

(46:31):
But to have a doctor, afierce doctor say it really,
I think is so is, is, is isalso is a wonderful thing
for us all to really knowthat it actually is needed.
So it's an incredible thing.
Now, you, you doctor, youmentioned you, I mean, well,
I know this, so you've worked
with children your entireprofessional career,

(46:51):
which is just incredible.
What, what, what do peopleget wrong about children in
their mental health?
- Well, thinking thatthey don't have anything
to worry about, right?
You're a kid. What, what is there for you
to be depressed about?
Or you have nothing to worry?
I, I hear parents sayall the time, like, well,
I've given my child everything.
They have a home, theyhave food. What, why?

(47:12):
Why are they depressed? Right?
And so it's misunderstandingthe human experience.
And something I often hear when it comes
to friendship is thinking that
kids don't need friends.
I hear parents say all the time, like,
you have me, you have your family.

(47:32):
You don't, don't trust other kids.
Or, you know, it comes alot of the times from fear.
You wanna protect yourkids from peer pressure
or negative influences.
And so parents feel this needto kind of keep them at home.
And you come to me if you need something
or, you know, you spendtime together with me.
And so I have to have a lot ofconversations with adults of,

(47:53):
actually it is developmentallyneeded for a child
to practice social skillsfor a child, to have conflict
with friends, for a child,to build new friendships
and maintain the friendships.
Because if you shield themwhen they become adults,
how are they gonna know to have a healthy
romantic relationship?
How are they gonna know how to interact
with colleagues and coworkers?

(48:13):
And so these are skills thatthey need to go through.
They, they need to developthe, the tough and the good.
- You just said again,something else that I think is
so important,
and I didn't realize thisuntil I started working
with you all, is thatkids have to learn how
to become friends.

(48:33):
Like you don't just pop out of the womb
and know how to be a friend.
It's, it's a learned skill.
And I think that's something, especially
after what we've been throughthe past several years
after COVID
and a global shutdown, Ithink we all, in a sense have
to learn how to become friends again.

(48:55):
And, and that's whatwe're trying to do here
with HypeFriend, is talkabout those social skills, kind
of talk about the dos
and don'ts, how to be aHypeFriend, what does
that mean?
And, and that's a reminderfor, for parents that we have
to teach kids how to be friends.

(49:15):
But also for us adults, Ithink we constantly have
to remind ourselves, howcan we be a good friend?
What does that look like?What does that mean? So Dr.
Hoit, what, what does beinga HypeFriend mean to you?
- You know, for me, and it's funny
'cause I just had this conversation
with my 5-year-old a few days ago.

(49:38):
To me it is, it's not a competition.
We are not competing with our friends.
Yes, we are there for each other.
We are proud of each other.We make each other better.
We build each other up. Wealso call each other out.
And that's important. I don'twanna be by people that just
let me make mistakesand do terrible things.
Like, no, call me out. Tellme when I can be better.

(50:01):
But, but to your point, Ashley, we have
to teach these things.
You know, my five-year-old, we just
went to a birthday party.
She made this comment of, oh, so
and so is prettier than me today.
And I was like, pause. We didnot enter the birthday party.
We are having a conversation, right?
Like that you, no, we're notcompeting on who's prettier,
especially young girl.

(50:21):
You know, like, we wantour friend to be pretty,
we want our friend to look great,
and you're gonna compliment her
and be proud that she looks so good.
And you want a friend thatdoes the same for you back,
because that's the other skill, right?
Yes. To know when a friendshipmaybe isn't helping us.
And so, yeah, we wanna, wewanna hype each other up,
but kids need to learn how to do that.
- Ari, what, quick question for you,

(50:42):
while you're just in talkingabout that, do you think
that she and her friends weretalking about, like, the fact
that she said that in that moment, right
before you all walked in
and you addressed it, which I, I love
that you addressed it right there.
But do you think that theywere talking about that,
is she talking aboutthat with friends at, at,
you know, at, at school?

(51:03):
Is that where that maybe came from?
Obviously it didn't come from home.
- Yes. I think I, I reallywant parents to understand
that it is normal humanbehavior to compare.
We're gonna do that. We're gonna compare
ourselves to others.
And unless we adults guidekids, they're gonna compare
and they're gonna compete.
So they're gonna be at daycare

(51:23):
or at school talking aboutwho's prettier, who's faster,
who's more this and that.
And so it's up to us, theadults, to teach them how
to hype each other up instead.
And it's a balance
because you also want yourkid to want to grow up wanting
to do better and improveand aim high, right?
But you can say, I want to look pretty

(51:45):
and I want to show up and feel good.
That doesn't mean I have towant to be prettier. Right?
And so it's that balanced.
- Mm.- I love
that you just said it's naturalto compare and to compete
- And to compete. Yes.
- Because I think one lessonthat I've really had to learn
as an adult is that two emotionscan exist at the same time.

(52:09):
You know, I can
be sad about something whilealso excited at the same time.
And, you know, especially I think
that comes up with friendship.
If you, and we've talkedabout this, Michael,
like if you see a friend that, you know,
let's say on Broadway, somebodygot to be in a show or,

(52:30):
or even just in film
and television, somebodygot to be in a show
that you really, reallyalso wanted to be a part of.
You can also be bummedthat, that you're not a part
of it while also excited for your friend.
And I think the misconception for me is
that those two emotionscouldn't exist at the same time.

(52:51):
I mean, Ari, can you talk about that?
That it's okay to, it, it,
it almost feels like arollercoaster sometimes.
- Yeah. I mean, it's humanand doesn't make you a bad
person, right?
That that's, you're going to feel bummed.
And again, you're going to compare
and you're going to want to compete.
And that's okay because that's

(53:11):
what helps us grow and be better.
So it is okay to feelthe competing responses,
but, you know, one thing Ialways teach in therapy is we
shouldn't act on emotion.
We have our emotional brain,
and then we have what, what indialectical behavior therapy
we call our wise mind
or you know, you wanna feel your emotions,
but you also wanna have rational thoughts.

(53:32):
And it's, you know, an Venndiagram. It's that overlap.
I'm having the rational thinkingand I'm feeling my emotion
and I'm respecting both,
and then I'm gonna makechoices based on that.
So I may feel bummed thatI didn't get the part,
but I'm also gonna be happy for my friend,
and I'm not gonna call them
and be mean about them getting the part.
Right. I'm gonna be rationaland be kind and pipe them up.

(53:55):
- So I, I, I'm also, soas we, as we get older,
obviously things change
and, you know, we go into,sometimes we, we hide more.
We, you know, we start, wekinda get more extreme of,
of like what it is that we're doing.
So I'm curious, like,what is a good age for
around, around the age?

(54:15):
Like where, where doeslike real, you know,
I think foundational friendship
began, like, what, what is that?
What is, what is what around the time for,
for us, what is that?
- That's a great questionbecause, you know,
from the moment a baby is an infant,
they recognize people they know,

(54:36):
and that's a social skill, right?
Like, you start to buildbonds, you, you're,
you're more in tune with thepeople, you know, they start
to recognize emotions
and they start to mimicanother social skill, right?
That empathy, that matching.
Then as they get older, especiallyif they are in preschool
and daycare and they'reinteracting with a lot of kids,
they're gonna start tobuild those friendships.

(54:56):
They're gonna start toshow those preferences.
You are gonna be friends withpeople like you, with people
that like to do the thingsthat you like to do.
And then there's gonna be conflict.
I was surprised that by two years old,
my daughter was alreadycoming home and saying, so
and so doesn't want, want me to be friends
with so and so, right?
Like, there was already drama at two.

(55:16):
So it is about, fromthe moment you're born,
we are social creatures.
It is a basic need. We have this, the,
the the need from the beginning.
And then as we're exposed to others,
those natural interactionsare gonna happen.
You're gonna gravitate to people like you,
and then you're gonna havethose moments of high emotion
and, and being upset.

(55:37):
But that's another placewhere adults are important in
helping kids talk aboutdifferences, the benefits
of being different fromeach other, why it's good
to build friendships withkids who are different from us
and, and ensuring thatwe're being kind to people
that are different from usbecause it's another human
behavior to gravitate tosomething that is like

(55:59):
- Us.
- Mm.- Michael, I think it's interesting
that you bring up foundationalfriendships because Dr.
Hoa, what is it about friendships
that you develop when you're kids?
I, I don't know. I sometimes feel like
that those friendships canbe stronger than even some

(56:19):
of the friendships you make as adults.
And Michael
and I, for example, we becamefriends in high school,
so we were, you know, I think 14 and,
and 15 when we became friends.
And then we, you know, we got
to know each other reallywell throughout high school.
And then we went our separateways for like 20 years
and then came back together.

(56:40):
But it was like we hadn't skipped a beat.
And, and there's thisbond that we have that,
I don't know, I mean, my god, I don't know
how you'd describe it, but it's like,
because we knew each otherwhen we were kids, I,
I I almost feel like weknow each other so well
because we go back
and what is it about, I don't know these,

(57:05):
I love foundational friendships that
- Yeah. That
- You said, Michael, that, that,
how do kids develop such strong bonds
that can often last a lifetime?
- I think it's, thinkabout that stage of life.
You are developing your identity.
You are developing who youare, you're going through it,

(57:25):
you're making mistakes.
You're growing. And sofriendships that you had in
that time, they know you.
They were there for the goodand the bad. Yes. Right?
And so there is something different.
They're differing aboutpeople that, that stuck
with you kind of through all of that.
So it makes sense to feel that bond.
- Oh my gosh.- Yeah.

(57:47):
- Stuck with me through myunfortunate fashion choices.
I had a homecoming dressmade out of green plastic.
He, he stuck with me throughsome interesting times.
- Listen, and you stuck through me with me

(58:08):
through sweater vestsand like, you know, I
- Still wear sweater- Vests.
Yeah. Well, well, for and,
and Capri Capri pants, like Capri shorts.
- That is true. That is true.- So there's that.
- You know, one thingthat someone just said
to me the other day,

(58:29):
and I, I, I forget, Iforget actually where I was,
but it, it was an individualthat is at the top
of their game, literally froma professional standpoint.
They're in like the highest of rooms.
And they said, you know,at the end of the day,
it's just high school.

(58:49):
And I remember when they said that,
I was like, they're right.
And, and they were,
they were specificallymeaning the personalities
and the social skills, and even the drama.
And so I think, you know, Dr.
Hoit, as you've reallyreminded us, you know,
kids are learning these socialskills at such a young age.

(59:11):
And, you know, everything thatwe learn as kids about how
to become friends andhow to socially interact
with each other, it's the same as adults.
Like we, we actually needto be reminded of all
of these friendship lessons
and all of these skillsthat we learned as kids
and as adults, we really need to, I think,

(59:34):
constantly kind of keepourselves in check of, like,
is is this what we were taught?
Is this how we can be a good friend?
Is this how we shouldinteract with someone?
Is this how we should talk to someone?
And you know, that, that just really stuck
with me when they said, youknow, it's just high school.

(59:55):
- Hmm.- And I'm like, yeah, okay.
Is, is this how I would recommendtalking to someone when,
when, you know, to a high schooler?
Is that how you should treatsomeone? And so, so yeah.
I, I think to be a goodHypeFriend, I think we do need
to go back to when we werekids, when it was just simple

(01:00:17):
of like, you know, you treatothers as you wanna be treated.
- Absolutely. And I thinksomething we all need
to remember is that we aretalking about social skills.
There's skills is a word, right? Yes.
You don't show up tothe World Series without
going to practice first.
Right. You have to practice,you have to build your skill.
And so social skills,yes, you gotta practice,

(01:00:37):
which means you gotta interactwith people, you gotta talk
to people, you gotta go through it.
I'm like, do it.
- Ugh. You just said something that
we've said here on the podcast.
Friendship is a practice.
- Practice.- Oh.
Like I, I think Michael,we need to make sure we say
that every episode.

(01:00:57):
- Yes.- Because I agree.
It is something that exactlylike you just said, I mean,
my husband used to play baseball,
actually still is very active in baseball,
and he's constantly goingout and playing catch and,
and hitting the ball and,and training younger players.
Friendship is a practice, justlike baseball is a practice

(01:01:18):
or any other thing that you do.
You know, I think this is the perfect way
to end this, this segment.
I know you are a verybusy, we talked about this,
but in a great way.
You're doing so many things, Dr.
Hoit, you're just helping somany kids around the world and,
and families too.
So thank you, thank you,thank you for your time.

(01:01:41):
We really appreciate yousharing your time with us and,
and teaching us on, on howto be good HypeFriends.
Yes. We've just touched the surface.
We've only like, literallytouched it like I have.
I literally, like, mybrain is like, like I have
so many things more like, I'm just like,
oh God, what about this?
And what about this, whatabout this? So I cannot wait

(01:02:01):
to keep continuing.
I'm gonna build my, like, my,
I'm gonna call it my ARI files.
Oh, I love that. I'mgonna call it my ARI files
because I have such, Ihave a such admiration
for you and the work thatyou do and continue to do.
I'm thank you for being so open

(01:02:22):
and being able to us justask you real questions
from a real doctor.
PS
- I'm just grateful toyou guys for choosing me.
I I walked into work this morning
and I was like, I get tobe the neighborhood doctor.
Like, this is just so exciting.
I appreciate you guys for, fortrusting me and including me.
- Oh, we are honored and wecan't wait to have you back.

(01:02:44):
But in the meantime, whenyou're not joining us on HypeFriend
Where can everyone find you?
So I am active on Instagram.
You can find me at Ariana poet, PhD
and also check out kidsmental health foundation.org.
Michael, Dr. ArianaHoen, claps, jazz hands,
- Jazz claps, all the things.

(01:03:05):
We can't wait to have you back
- Much, Ari, and we will see you.
See you soon. Michael, areyou not obsessed with her?
- I'm beyond hashtag obsessed with
Ari, Dr.
Ariana Hoit. Dr. Fierceness.
Like, I'm just, I'mobsessed with it. Thank you.
Thank you for bringingher into our community.

(01:03:30):
- She's just a amazing,
and you know what I love she, she's
so relatable to me.
Yes. You know, she's very
- Real. Yes.
- She's- Very genuine.
And, you know, genuine has like,become my word of the year.
You know? She listens to you.
- Yeah.- You know, she oftentimes, like,

(01:03:54):
you know, she re yourealize she's just human.
Yeah. Like, if I say like,oh, I'm really struggling
with this right now, she'llsay, you know what, me too.
And, and sometimes you thinkof doctors, you're like, oh,
well they can't relate to me.
You know, they're a doctor.But no, she's just so real.
She's so genuine, so kind, and so helpful.
So I'm really excited.

(01:04:15):
She's gonna be a part ofour hype and I love it.
And your neighborhood doctor.
- I'm, I'm obsessed. I really am.
What, what do you, what do you think our,
our one last thing then, like what?
I mean, I know. I feellike I know what it is.
I, and I feel like wemight be on the same page.
What, what do you feel likeour one last thing from,
from our conversation with Dr.

(01:04:36):
Ari today is,
- Well, you know, thething that was just so,
she said so many things,
- So many that- Were like aha moments and so profound.
But I think the one thing
that is just sticking in my mind is
that friendship is a necessity.
Like it's, it's a basic need.

(01:04:56):
- Yes. Oxygen. Oh my gosh. Yes.
Like, she's a friendship isit's like, it's like oxygen.
That is Yes. That is.
We're on the, we're there, we're there.
- Okay. I, I thought we would be,
because I looked at yourface when she was saying that
and both of us were like,
but it really should be that simple.

(01:05:17):
- Yeah.- And it, it should be considered as, as
that important, you know,as simple as just breathing.
- Yeah.- Your body needs oxygen.
You know, we need food and water. We need
- Friendship.
Friendship. Ah, yes. It's sogood. Oh my gosh. It's so good.

(01:05:38):
It's so good. It's like, itfeeling, hearing that is, it's,
it's, it's, it's very comforting.
It really is. It'sactually very comforting.
And, and I hope thatpeople can, can feel that
because to hear a doctor say it as well
feels like it feels very official.
You know, it feels like, okay.
Like, like this, this is real.

(01:06:00):
- You know what? I justthought of a new t-shirt.
Friendship is my favorite comfort food.
- Yes. Ooh. Yeah.- Okay.
- Friendship is favorite fried chicken.
- You know what though? Ourfriendship is just as delicious

(01:06:24):
to me as the, the chicken fingerson the Disney cruise line.
Because we all know, we all know
how good those chicken fingers are
- At two in the morning. Yes,
- Yes. When you,
- When you on a group service.
- But you know what, Michael,our friendship is even more
delicious than those chicken tenders.

(01:06:47):
And with that, I think we've
had another amazingepisode of HypeFriend.
Thank you all for joining us once again.
I'm Ashley Eckstein.
- I'm Michael James Scott.
- And remember, be a hypefriend. The hype starts
- With, starts with, with you.