January 25, 2025 • 50 mins
In this episode of IMPACT | Leadership & Legacy, Jeremy, Maddie, and Daniel dive deeper into the connection between leadership, influence, and impact. They explore the essential qualities of effective leadership—Humility, Hunger, and Honor—and discuss how these foundational traits pave the way for creating a meaningful legacy. Tune in for thought-provoking insights, personal reflections, and actionable advice to help you lead with purpose and inspire change in the world around you.
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SPEAKER_03 (00:01):
Welcome to Impact Podcast.
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My name is Jeremy Melton and I'myour host along with Daniel and
Maddie for the next 30 minutesto an hour or however long you
choose to tune in.
On this show, we will uncoversome things about life that can
help you on your journey to makean impact on the world that we
live in.
Our highlight question, whatkind of impact are you making on
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the world that we live in?
And remember, our goal on thisshow is to generate the desire
to understand it sooner thanlater.
This is episode number two, sowe're going to get started.
Last week, we discussed impact.
influence and leadership wetalked about how your impact is
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measured and y'all remember wediscussed how it was measured
but we came to the conclusionthat it was measured by the
people around you remember if animpact is an influence we talked
about how that ties toleadership and so because
leadership is also influence soall these things tie together at
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some point i had said thatleadership could be synonymous
with influence And so we'regonna delve into that a little
bit deeper today, because somepeople don't agree with that.
They think it's a product of,which in the sense it is, but
they always go together.
So we discussed times in yourlife when you guys had done
things that you thought may havebeen difficult or impossible,
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and how you felt on the otherside of having completed those.
We discussed the difference ineveryone's list of leaders.
Essentially, we did anintroduction the very first
podcast was all about howinfluence is tied to impact and
what leadership, how that tiesall in.
So we had some key takeawayslast week.
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And in summary, when I waswriting the stuff for today, I
thought to myself, when you guyshad given your key takeaways and
even mine, we were all kind ofdoing some self-reflection,
right?
And so I did it all week,actually.
just self-reflecting on whatwe're talking about and how
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we're going to move the needle.
So, Daniel, you said your keytakeaway was, what is my impact?
And I want to make an impact.
And you were inspired.
And I think you even said thaton the show.
But, you know, do you want toput more insight on that at all?
SPEAKER_01 (02:45):
So, since then, I've definitely been just kind of
like being more intentionalabout like thinking about like,
not only how I can have animpact on those around me, but
really I've been reflecting onhow this experience with you
guys and what we're here andwhat we're doing is gonna be
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just so beneficial to me and mygrowth.
So Saturday, Mallory Media had areally big day.
I had four different guys atthree different events, and I
was trying to lead.
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I can't be three places at once,but I'm over the phone.
I'm leading, you know, showingthem, like, telling them and
just being just real with them,telling them, like, hey, I trust
you.
Like, you know, I know thatyou're going to do a great job.
Follow your heart.
You know, do the job.
And even at the same time, whileI was doing that, I also...
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had the kids here with thesitter so i'm i'm i'm leading
through the phone at home aswell and i thought about that
and just kind of just like youknow taking that all in and uh i
i have felt inspired and justbeen thinking about it a lot and
like you know what can i do totouch all these people in the
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way that you know makes themfeel like they're just raise
them up you know
SPEAKER_03 (04:22):
That's good.
Thank you for sharing.
That's beautiful.
Maddie, you said you were goingto be the best human you could
be because there's no tellingwho was looking at you.
SPEAKER_00 (04:32):
Yep.
SPEAKER_03 (04:33):
Would you like to?
SPEAKER_00 (04:36):
Yeah, so I think one word that we continuously say is
intentional.
I mean, Daniel just said it.
I know I said it a few timeswhen I listened to it back last
week, so intentional.
I really took the wordintentional and I'm actually
planning.
I'm going to do a word of theyear for 2025.
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And that's going to be my word.
And it's going to beintentional.
I love
SPEAKER_02 (05:00):
it.
SPEAKER_00 (05:00):
I love it.
No matter what I do, whether,like I said, checking out the
grocery store, whatever,everything I'm doing is
intentional when you're incontact with someone else.
So I think I was a better personthis last week.
Yeah.
made decisions that were veryintentional when normally I
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think I would have just made ainstinct decision so yeah I
can't think of an example rightoff the bat mostly at work but
that's where I spend most of mytime so yeah intentional
SPEAKER_03 (05:40):
so you're doing things on purpose right you know
and that's awesome so I do wantto say that I mean Obviously,
our goal, we talked about ourgoal, which is on this show, is
to generate the desire tounderstand that sooner than
later about the impact, right?
So we accomplished that goalinternally right here last week.
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And so as our viewers or ourlisteners or whatever you want
to call them, people participatein this show, hopefully that's
what happens to them too, right?
So not just for us, but we wantthat for them.
And so that's why we're doingwhat we're doing.
I mean, you guys left inspired.
I left inspired.
And I left having decided thatthis is what it's all about, and
I'm inspired to see what we willdo and accomplish with this.
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So it's good.
I want to unpack some of thestuff that we discussed, and
we're going to get a little bitdeeper today and essentially
talk about leadership.
So we know we want to make theimpact.
We want to leave a legacybehind.
which is what we talk about allthe time.
The conduit for the legacy thatwe talk about is impact, and the
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conduit for that is influence,and the conduit for that is
leadership.
So one after another.
But we know that leadership iswhat we have to do.
We have to lead well.
And so what exactly isleadership?
There's at least 100,000 bookswritten on leadership and
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there's at least 10 millionpeople probably that have a
different opinion.
The funny thing is you mightlook at the definition of
leadership and in my opinion,everybody has a different
definition.
And so you've got all thesewonderful leaders, authors,
writers, pastors, all kinds ofpeople, and they all define it
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differently.
And so...
You know, I counted last week,and I've personally read 17
books on leadership in mycareer.
So just say 20 years of my adultcareer work, maybe 20 times
five.
Don't
SPEAKER_00 (07:50):
do math.
SPEAKER_03 (07:52):
Anyway, we won't get into that.
But of the 17 books I've read,if I'm honest, I went back and
looked at, I just skimmed fouror five of them this past week
getting ready for the show.
And one of them in particularhad all the different
definitions of leadership.
And I thought, man, I want togive a definition, you know,
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other than just to sayinfluence.
Because it is.
I do tell everybody it isinfluence.
But what I found was that weshould just define it by what it
produces and not necessarilywhat it is.
And so I've got that here, andI'm going to talk about that.
But it's not easy to define.
It's a deep subject.
But I'm going to give mydefinition and everybody can
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pick it apart.
It's easier to define by theproduct of it and then discuss
the actions required to attainit.
And so more so than to bedefined, it is a place of being.
And so here we go.
The grand finale, here we go.
The leadership is influence.
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The leader will...
This is where I'm about to tellyou what the leader does.
The leader will love and servepeople, inviting them on a
journey with courage to confrontchallenges head on first,
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providing vision for the future,coaching along the way, being a
living example, settingexpectations while maintaining
the highest level of integrityand character imaginable.
throughout.
Y'all
SPEAKER_00 (09:39):
want to add to that?
A few things kind of pop out,and I have it written down right
here because it is a greatdefinition, I think.
But I think what this shows,though, is a leader is in
everyday past, present, andfuture.
It's not just right now, thatperson's a leader.
It is what they've done in thepast, what they're doing right
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now, and then what their visionis for the future.
So it's totally, it's a like,you know, once you kind of
really break it down how you'vedone, I mean, confronting
challenges, settingexpectations, being a good
example.
I mean, it's, a leader is somuch more than what people think
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when you hear leadership.
SPEAKER_01 (10:23):
Exactly.
SPEAKER_00 (10:24):
I think it's a great definition.
SPEAKER_01 (10:26):
What I think of when I hear that, and I'm looking at
it too, is those are all thingsthat I love to see in other
people and I try to be inmyself.
However, I never even reallytied it all in to leadership
personally.
Those are things that I want todo on a daily basis, but I never
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really stopped and thought that,oh, I'm being a leader.
No credit.
Hey,
SPEAKER_03 (10:58):
no, that's good.
It's good that you, number one,it's good that you notice it,
right?
But then number two, that youembrace it.
And number three, that you'reintentional about it.
Because I'll tell you this, inmy time, in my career, there's
been times when I was being agood leader and there's been
times when I wasn't, okay?
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There's been times when I wasbeing a great leader and there's
been times when I wasn't.
And if I'm not intentional aboutthese things, then I'm not,
okay?
And so...
I believe in we have seasons oflife.
And if, again, being a mom,being a dad, you have to be
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intentional about it.
And if you're not, you're notgoing to be a good mom and dad.
Right.
Okay?
And so when you highlight thisstuff and you bring it to the
top, that's when you see it.
It's almost like a revelationwhere you're seeing, hey, I'm
leading now that we're talkingabout it.
And so that's what...
That's why I tell everyone thatI know and that I meet a good
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leader.
The best leaders are students ofit because they're constantly
reading and studying leadershipto bring it to the top.
So having said that, I saidleadership is influence and then
I went through a series ofthings that leadership will do.
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And then influence is that inwhich is produced when
leadership is present.
The ability to inspire changeand create the desire for it
rather than mandating it.
So, lead, then influence, thenimpact.
Impact is held, legacy is left.
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Okay, and in that order.
Yep.
Lead, influence, impact.
Impact is held, legacy is left.
And that's what we want to do islead the legacy.
So...
All right, so lead.
That's the part that we do.
Just do that, and the restfollows.
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So last week, I think I said ita couple times, but everyone is
a leader in some way, good orbad, because it is influence.
Everyone has an influence insome way.
Now, again, we won't delve intoit too much deeper.
We're going to move on and talkabout leadership, but I think
we've exhausted enough that weunderstand it.
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and how all this stuff tiestogether.
The dynamic is when you leadwell, you attain influence and
then an impact, and that equalsyour legacy.
All right, so how do you leadwell?
We're going to start with thefoundation.
Obviously, the first thing weneed to talk about is the
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foundation, and every week we'regoing to expand on that.
But the foundation isfoundation.
When I think about foundation,it takes me back to a book I
read once.
And this is one of the booksthat I brushed up on this week.
It's called Launching aLeadership Revolution.
It's by Chris Brady and OrenWoodward.
So they get all the credit.
Okay.
Great book, by the way.
They have a chapter in the bookand it's called Foundational
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Qualities.
And I remember when I wasthinking about the first thing
we're going to talk about withleadership, I thought about we
need to make sure thefoundation's there.
That's the first thing we'regoing to build on.
And I remember, distinctlyremembered, in that book, it's a
whole book about leadership, butI distinctly remember reading
the section, the chapter, Idon't know, it was chapter two
or three.
It's up close.
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It's up front.
But they talked about the thingsthat are foundational.
And there's a whole chapter onit.
And so it was good.
So I went back and read it.
There's a whole chapter on it,and it's good.
Don't waste your time.
Wait a minute.
I'm sorry.
Okay, here's what they saidright here.
They teach the foundation is aprerequisite for leadership
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development.
And if these cornerstones arenot met, then don't waste your
time trying to lead well.
And so what has to be present tobuild a foundation for leading?
And in the book, they saidhumility, no, it was humble,
honable, and honorable.
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And I didn't...
I didn't take the honable word.
I kind of expanded on that.
And what I said was hungry,humble, hungry, and honorable.
Okay.
And so humble was the word thatI chose to use instead of
honable, because in the sense,it was kind of the same thing.
And the word humble was betterfor me.
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And so I chose to use the wordhumble.
But let's talk about that.
So We need to be humble, hungry,and honorable.
That's the three things that weneed to be as leaders.
All right.
And so if you're listening rightnow and you think to yourself,
well, I'm a leader and I need toknow what I need to start with.
This is where you start.
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Okay.
This is where you start.
And this is why we're startinghere.
So let's talk about humility fora minute and being humble.
What is the first thing thatcomes to mind when
SPEAKER_01 (16:20):
When I think of humble, I think of someone that
serves, someone that isn'tarrogant and isn't full of
themselves.
You know, like I tell people alot, like I exude confidence,
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but not arrogance.
And I think there's a really bigdifference in those two things.
But just...
listening, being consistent,
SPEAKER_03 (16:53):
humble, you know.
That's good.
Well, this one's kind ofelusive, right?
Because as soon as you say toyourself, I'm humble, right?
You're not.
SPEAKER_00 (17:08):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (17:10):
So, go ahead, Maddie.
SPEAKER_00 (17:12):
I just, humble, I just think about it differently
now that we're talking about it.
I think of humble as someone ona receiving end of something,
not just in everyday life.
So you're humble because, youknow, you had surgery and
everyone brings you all the castroles and stuff and you, you
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don't expect people to do thatfor you.
Um, so you're just like, gosh,like you're just thankful and
humble.
I don't, I've not thought abouthumble as like a leadership
quality.
Um, obviously I'm beingschooled, I think, in a great
way.
I mean, because when you lookat, like, what you just said
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about your characteristics, I'mlike, well, yeah, that would
100% be this, yeah.
So I think that Humble's a weirdone.
SPEAKER_01 (18:09):
Let me tell you about when, you know, and I
guess it's coming up, but who doyou think of went humble and I'm
going to raise her up.
I thought of Maddie becauseanytime that I put something on
Maddie and then she knocks itout of the park, she does a
great job.
I go to her, I'm like, Maddie,you killed it.
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All the credit.
And she's like, no, no, no, no,no, no.
She's humble.
SPEAKER_00 (18:38):
You're a team.
SPEAKER_03 (18:39):
I got something to teach you on that too.
Okay.
We'll get there maybe.
We're going to come back tothat.
Okay.
That's good.
So the fact that he said thatsays a lot about you, right?
It's very sweet.
So we should all seek to behumble because if you've ever
met someone, and I'm sure youhave, I mean, obviously you're
talking about Maddie, but ifyou've ever met someone that is
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extremely humble.
Now, let me say this becauseit's a caveat.
Someone that's too humble couldbe doing it out of pride
because, well, I'm humble, youknow, again.
There has to be a genuinehumbleness, okay?
And when you meet someone likethat, you are drawn to them,
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okay?
And so...
There's a reason for that, too.
We'll get to that.
SPEAKER_00 (19:27):
Intentionally humble.
SPEAKER_03 (19:31):
Well, intentionally humble without being prideful.
Because, again, it's veryelusive.
It'll be there one minute and begone.
And so it reminds me of, I putit in here, the movie Shooter,
where the old gunsmith, he says,it ain't always what it seems,
Gunny.
As soon as you think you've gotit figured, you're wrong.
And that's the way it is withhumility.
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Humility is...
It's a superpower.
And, again, it can come and go.
We talk about it.
If you're not intentional, it'llleave you.
It will evade you.
And then you'll turn around andrealize it's evaded you.
And it's like, oh, God, we'vegot to get it back.
Okay?
And at least for me, you know,maybe I'm weird.
But, Maddie, who's the mosthumble person that you know?
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The most humble person that youknow.
SPEAKER_00 (20:19):
The most
SPEAKER_03 (20:20):
humble.
The most humble.
SPEAKER_00 (20:24):
So, I've tossed this around.
I went between my mom and myhusband.
And I'm going to go with myhusband.
Because he truly is just...
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He's patient.
He doesn't ever really doanything for himself.
Like, I mean, it is...
He puts...
us the kid the kids family workeverything else before he will
do anything for himself um butthen he's also so i can't say
humble but i mean he's so umsupportive so it's like me
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picking up different things todo um with daniel little side
hustle stuff there's no everquestion.
If I want to do it, like, heasks questions, absolutely, but
there's no pushback because he'sthe number one supporter for all
of us.
Right.
And I don't think that he knowsthat.
Like, I don't think...
Well,
SPEAKER_03 (21:28):
he will now.
SPEAKER_00 (21:29):
Yeah, I know.
No, I think, you know, like, hebought a...
We just bought a new truck.
And, like, before that, he had alittle Honda Accord, and he
bought that for Honda Civic orsomething because...
That was what we needed for himto travel to and from work.
He didn't get what he wanted.
He got what was practical forthe family.
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And now we finally, I was like,let's get you a truck.
Let's do it.
Good.
SPEAKER_03 (21:58):
Excellent.
That's excellent.
SPEAKER_01 (22:00):
Danny, what you got?
So I immediately thought of, hisname's Peter.
He lives in my old neighborhood.
And Peter is such a uniqueperson.
neighbor i mean he's just thatguy in the community that i need
anything whether it'sconversation a task or a friend
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he's there 100 of the time andi'll tell you real quick the way
that i met peter when we firstmoved to madison you know back
in 2017 i bought this one acrehouse on one acre.
I couldn't afford a Ryderlawnmower and I was doing the
push lawn mowing in this wholeacre backyard.
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I did it three times and it'dtake me like seven hours to push
mow this lawn.
And that third time, Hadn't methim.
He's on his mower, and he justcomes out of nowhere.
I feel like red, white, andblue, like this superhero comes
riding back.
He's like, I got you, brother.
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And he just knocks it out, andhe's out there mowing until 9
p.m.
It got dark, and he just keptgoing.
I was, you need another beer?
You need another beer?
But it just showed me the typeof person he is, and then
getting to know him, I've onlyhumbled myself.
Mr.
Peter.
I mean, just there foreverybody.
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Great dude.
That's
SPEAKER_03 (23:26):
good.
So the most humble person that Iknow, and this was very hard for
me, honestly.
I know a lot of people, whichI'm sure you all do too, but I
know a lot of people in theleadership world, and so I've
followed some good leaders thatI've learned from, and I wanted
to pick one of them, but fordifferent reasons.
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When you talk about the mosthumble person that you know,
That's hard.
SPEAKER_01 (23:51):
It's a lot of pressure.
SPEAKER_03 (23:52):
It is.
And so I said my mom, likeMaddie, and she doesn't know
that.
I actually was talking to themabout it over the weekend and
she was humble and she said, oh,it's not me.
But it is because when you thinkabout caring, self-aware,
accountable, patient, generous,good listener, open to learning,
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serving, letting others take thecredit, complimenting others.
When you read through all those,it's hard for one person to
attain all of them and be ahuman.
That's right.
Absolutely.
Because we are, by nature,sinful creatures.
And so all of these things, ifyou go, anyway, we're not going
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to get super biblical today, butif you go to the fruit of the
Spirit, In the Bible.
And anyway, so it all kind ofmeshes in.
But anyway, I told my mom.
And that I believe the reason wechoose our moms is because they
love you unconditionally.
Okay?
And the world doesn't.
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And other people don't.
So I can, I mean, I'll shout outto Jeff Birch.
I was raised and mentored byJeff Birch.
He's a humble dude.
But when you say the mosthumble, It was my mom because
she loved me unconditionally.
That's good.
Anyway, having said that.
So Philippians 2.3, I'm going tohave a Bible verse for this just
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because this is do nothing outof selfish ambition or vain
conceit, rather in humility.
Value others above yourself.
That is the definition.
Value others above yourself.
That's the most important part.
And again, that's not alwayseasy depending on where you are
in life.
And if your glass is full, thenyou can be humble.
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But if your glass is empty, it'shard.
In fact, you don't even see it.
And so here we are, again,intentional about seeing that.
So let's go to the second one,which is...
That was good stuff.
Yeah, being hungry.
This one is important because itis the fuel for the leader.
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Hunger.
So...
It's the fuel to start, the fuelto run, and the fuel to keep
going.
And some say being hungry isdiscontentment or whatever, but
I call it ambition.
And the leader has to beambitious.
Everything can get better, andthat includes us as individuals.
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The desire to win exists inevery effective leader.
So, Maddie, who is the mosthungry person that you know?
Now, you might be thinking,well, we're not talking about
food, obviously, but you mightbe thinking, well, I can't
really assimilate that.
I would assimilate it withpassion.
Someone that is hungry forgrowth and passionate.
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Who's the most of that that youknow?
SPEAKER_00 (27:06):
I'm getting a little...
I think when the word most isthrown in front, it makes my
mind, it's like a littledifferent for me.
I think of, I think of so many.
So like I'm trying to wrap myhead around, I think one of them
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is, her name is Marie.
She helps run the Lake OconeeFood and Wine Festival.
She's actually the director,co-director with her husband.
And they are a powerhouse.
And I mean...
She's got her way.
She leads so many people thatwant to be involved with that
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festival, including myself.
Sponsors.
She works with the Ritz.
She is just...
She pushes people to do better,to grow, to get the festival to
continue, to thrive every year.
She's the first person I thoughtof.
She's disciplined.
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She doesn't...
you know, go off the path ofwhat the end goal is.
And I just, I envy that in her.
Yeah.
She might be the most.
SPEAKER_03 (28:23):
Yeah.
So I thought, and we'll getDaniel up in a minute.
I thought about my brother.
So this weekend I was in, itwas, we were having Christmas at
my mom's and my brother wasthere and, He'll listen to this
later, too, I'm sure.
But he was there, and we weretalking.
And I remember at one point inthe conversation, I said to
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myself, man, this dude hasgotten passionate about what he
does.
And honestly, he made the top ofmy list.
I was like, I mean, he was justrelentless, okay?
And he was talking about histeam and his people, and he's
become a leader.
And I...
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I'm proud of him because he'sgrown so much as a person, as a
human, as a leader, as abusiness.
He owns his own business.
But that wasn't in him four orfive years ago.
And I've watched him grow in hisleadership ability with his
company.
But when he was talking to me, Iliterally said to myself, wow,
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this dude is hungry.
His passion is contagious.
He's relentless for the goal.
And that is what great leadersare.
Half.
All of them.
And so you want to, you know,again, if you're listening to
the show, you want to find whatmakes you hungry.
Okay?
If you're a leader.
And that, then you have to feedthat because it will die too.
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Remember, it will die.
Inside of you, it will go away.
And so you actually, and this issomething that you can read
about if you want, but youactually need to be so hungry
that you have enemies.
And that sounds crazy, butsomething or someone that fuels
you.
And then that needs to beconsistently looked at and
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talked about and gone through,and it needs to continue to make
you hungry.
SPEAKER_01 (30:22):
So, Daniel, you got one?
Yeah, I want to jump back to, Ithink, episode one, you asked
who's had the biggest impact onme, and it was Jeremy Mathis.
Um, when it comes to hungry,I've never seen hungry like
Jeremy.
SPEAKER_03 (30:40):
Wow.
SPEAKER_01 (30:41):
And he is just committed and he's persistent
and there's no challenge thatgets in his way.
That's going to slow him down.
He's going to solve, he solvesproblems.
Um, he just, and he leads hisguys the right way.
Um,
SPEAKER_00 (31:03):
I think that the two of y'all are, Hungry.
I mean, seriously.
And I, fun fact for all thelisteners, I just met you.
So like, we really don't knoweach other very, very well.
But I mean, just being indifferent meetings, being on the
podcast, I mean, literallysitting in between the two
hungriest people in my day today life.
(31:27):
You know, I talked about Marieand she is, but that's just,
I've known her for forever, youknow?
So it's kind of, I can't saythat y'all are the most hungry
people that I know because itdiscredits everyone else that
I've known for so long.
Yeah, because
SPEAKER_03 (31:42):
everybody's listening.
SPEAKER_00 (31:43):
Yeah, everyone.
No, I really do think that thetwo of y'all are.
I mean, after the last podcast,the vibes and the energy from
the both of you just take myenergy up,
SPEAKER_01 (31:59):
too.
I'm flattered.
Thank you.
I am, too.
Thank you.
I'll
SPEAKER_03 (32:02):
receive that.
So I said it a while ago,hunger, these are disciplines,
okay, leadership.
And now again, so if you don'tfocus on hunger, it can go away,
okay?
You can lose your appetite, perse.
And so you want to keep thatstoked up.
(32:24):
All right, so passionate,driven, determined, relentless.
Those are the words, and we'veall talked about them.
Colossians 3.23 says, Whateveryou do, work at it with all your
heart as working for the Lord,not for human masters.
That in and of itself has fueledme.
When the world wouldn't, thatverse does.
I love it.
(32:44):
Okay, number three, honorable.
Character counts, right?
UNKNOWN (32:52):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (32:52):
The leader must be honorable.
Honor is not used very oftentoday.
How often do you hear that word?
Not very often.
And this is one of the highestbars for one to reach.
But as leaders, we ought toaspire to be honorable.
And I read once that honor isintegrity and character sewn
(33:15):
together.
Okay, so integrity and characterhad a baby, and that is honor.
UNKNOWN (33:22):
Okay.
SPEAKER_03 (33:23):
Living a life of integrity and character is
paramount for the leader.
The world, in my opinion, theworld does not put enough focus
on this because at the end ofthe day, the leader, not always,
but the leader during his tenureas a leader, as he's leading his
group of people, it's not alwaysthere.
(33:45):
There'll be times when it's noteven relevant because he's
not...
in a position where he's makingdecisions that change it.
But this is where a lot ofleaders fail.
Because the moment that you letyour people down and you break
integrity or character, you'redone.
(34:10):
You can mess up, you can not behumble for a day, you can not be
hungry for a day, but if youbreak your honor, you're going
to be years recovering fromthat.
And so I did this one lastbecause in my opinion, it's one
of the more difficult to attainand it's also the most
(34:33):
important.
Because again, it's like trust.
Once you break trust, how quickdo you get it back?
Or get in debt.
You get in debt a lot fasterthan you can get out of it.
And this is one of those things.
Honorable, being an honorableleader, it's not easy to do.
(34:54):
It's really easy to slip andmess it up.
And it's really hard to getback.
And so the most effectiveleaders in all of time have led
with honor.
And I put in here, one must holdthe wheel all the way through.
The road gets curvy and theshoulder gets wide.
And it's easy to get off track.
(35:16):
But great leaders.
stay on the road.
And that's the separation, in myopinion.
The ones that are very effectiveand they go a long ways and they
continue to lead, you know, youcould say they win Super Bowls.
Those are the dudes that don'tbreak integrity or their
character.
(35:37):
You know, and the ones that dofail.
So, Maddie, Who's the mosthonorable person that you
SPEAKER_00 (35:47):
know?
This is very hard for me.
And I don't know if I have ananswer.
That's okay.
And not because I can'tnecessarily think of one, but I
think that honor and beinghonorable is so intentional.
(36:08):
But there are very few peoplethat I think actually are
honorable people.
um, I mean, I think that, let metake that back.
I think that there are a lot ofpeople who are honorable and,
but like you were just saying,if you break that integrity or
character, you're, I mean, ittakes a while to get that back.
(36:30):
And I think that, you know, themost honorable person should be
one in my life that I can thinkof like this, that hasn't, you
know, broken their character orshown a darker side of the, you
know, things like that.
Um, And I think of mygrandfather, but he's passed
away.
(36:50):
I mean, but also...
Hey,
SPEAKER_03 (36:51):
that's good.
That
SPEAKER_00 (36:52):
works.
Yeah, I mean, he's...
We still talk about him to thisday.
You know, I definitely thinkthat he was a very honorable
man.
We've learned a lot of greatcharacteristics on how to be
human beings and how to be greatpeople.
Yeah.
(37:13):
But it's kind of sad to thinkthat I can't think of anyone
else.
SPEAKER_03 (37:18):
It's not easy to attain.
Not at all.
It's very difficult.
SPEAKER_01 (37:23):
Honor is difficult.
And you're right.
It's really easy or quick tolose and then it's gone.
And I've got some personal stuffthat I have been battling.
It's respect.
It's trust.
It's loyalty.
And You're right.
(37:45):
You don't just take it and thenget it back.
And it's about doing the rightthing when no one's watching.
And that's being intentional andwho do you want to be.
What I think of the mosthonorable person that I know,
it's this partner that I workedwith when I was in the
restaurant industry.
(38:06):
His name's Clark.
And he's just a differentindividual.
And he's very unique.
But what I like most about Clarkis just the way that he handles
his relationships.
I mean, he employs a lot ofpeople, but he treats the
dishwasher just the same as hedid his business partner.
(38:27):
Everyone is on a completelylevel playing field.
And the years that I spentworking side by side with Clark,
he rubbed off a lot of...
And I don't even think I waspaying attention or really
taking it in, but looking back,it's very clear that...
I picked up a lot of what hetook back from him and hold it
(38:49):
with me now.
So Clark, I mean, yeah, he justdoes everything the right way.
It doesn't matter.
And I mean, he's not perfect.
He likes to have a good time andhe's rough around the edges, but
it doesn't matter because heknows how to treat people.
He knows how to treat people andhe does it every single day,
consistent.
SPEAKER_03 (39:08):
And in the end, you know he's going to do the right
thing.
SPEAKER_01 (39:09):
Every single time.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (39:11):
So that...
You know, look, honestly, I hada hard time coming up with this
one because you see so manydifferent sides of so many
different people, right?
And when I think about anhonorable person, which could be
the wrong definition, because Ididn't look it up, speaking of,
but I think about someone thatwould never lie, never, they
(39:37):
would never do anything wrong,right?
Always going to do the rightthing, okay?
And I've known some greatleaders in my time, but I can't
say they've always done that.
I can always find somethingwhere, man, why did he do that?
(39:58):
Or he made that mistake.
And so when I put that badge onsomeone, the most honorable
person that I know, it wouldn'tjust be the person that has done
that less, right?
SPEAKER_00 (40:10):
Yeah, I mean, yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (40:11):
So I had a couple, but my old pastor was an
honorable man, you know, atleast as far as I know, right?
So he was a good friend, and hemay hear this one day.
His name was Lane Sanders, andhe was an honorable man, best I
could tell, right?
I mean, he was a good dude.
He always did the right things.
(40:32):
He was a good leader.
He was honorable.
A lot of times when someonesacrifices their life in any
kind of way, we see that ashonorable.
That was an honorable thing todo.
So I oftentimes think aboutpeople that are in the military,
(40:54):
right?
People that are in the fireservice.
People that...
I mean, those types of peoplecan be honorable too.
And so...
But...
It's a big deal when you startthinking about the person that
you know, the most honorableperson that you know.
And so there again, that's thebar that we should shoot for and
(41:16):
try to attain.
SPEAKER_00 (41:17):
I think, too, with honorable, you were talking
about how they act.
When I think of someone that'shonorable, it is no matter where
you are, what you see is whatyou get.
They're the same type of person.
They handle things the same.
You know, it's like...
It's not a hothead dad that'sgoing to yell at the umpire
(41:38):
behind the plate.
They lead with their best footforward at all times.
SPEAKER_03 (41:47):
They don't make mistakes.
SPEAKER_00 (41:48):
It's not because they're a pastor at church.
It's not just when they're apastor.
It's when they're a dad, they'rea brother.
At home, outside.
SPEAKER_03 (41:59):
It's interesting.
One thing that I thought about,too, most people that you would
give that badge that's someonethat's honorable is older
someone that has lived lifetypically when you give someone
that badge of honor you canthink about it right now just
(42:20):
think about it someone thatyou'd give it to today and
typically they're older likegray hair 60s 70s you said you
mentioned your grandpa yeah um Ididn't get to know my granddad
very well because he died when Iwas young.
But I was told he was anhonorable man, but I don't know.
But as you get older, you becomemore honorable.
(42:42):
You know, life is...
We're born and we're full of sinand we can't do anything without
getting screamed at.
We get taught.
And all throughout life, we'relearning how to be good humans.
And then at the end of life, wefinally figure it out and we
cross over.
But...
Being honorable is somethingthat when I think about it, it's
(43:03):
always older people becauseyounger people are still
learning.
And they're learning that thatdoesn't work.
And you get refined in your oldage.
And so the older you get, themore honorable.
The key is for a young man toseek that out and make decisions
(43:24):
based off of that.
And get that badge as soon as hecan.
Again, we talk about ourmission, our goal.
to highlight all this stuffsooner than later.
So we can work on it.
So the leader is humble, hungry,and honorable.
Let's talk about takeaways.
Number one takeaway.
(43:45):
Danny?
SPEAKER_01 (43:46):
Yeah, easy, easy, easy, easy.
Hey, look.
What I want to say is breakingit down like that really helps
me kind of wrap my head aroundit.
And humble, hungry, and honorare just like, I want somebody
(44:09):
to talk about me like that.
I want someone to talk about melike that.
And that's the biggestcompliment that I could ever
receive.
And that's what I'm taking away.
I mean, that's what I'm takingaway.
So let's figure that out.
Now that I know what the formulais to an extent.
(44:30):
Like, what do I got to do?
It's an Excel spreadsheet.
Yeah.
Hey, that's right.
SPEAKER_03 (44:35):
You want to be those things.
And the listener, that's whatyou want to be.
If you're going to lead, thoseare things you have to shoot
for.
And those are foundational.
Thank you for sharing that.
Mary?
SPEAKER_00 (44:48):
I think my biggest takeaway is that the word leader
is misconstrued.
Um...
I don't think, I think whensomeone thinks of a leader, like
we talked last episode, you'rethinking about the bigwigs.
You asked us who we think of asleaders.
We gave big names.
(45:12):
You know what I'm saying?
And then now, I look at it andthe people that I've mentioned
in here, those did not comeacross my mind when you asked me
who's a good leader.
I think my takeaway is thatbeing a leader doesn't mean that
you're leading a bunch ofpeople, obviously, like we've
talked about.
(45:32):
It's you're being a good humanand you are, to your core, very
intentional.
And you're moving forward for abetter future, a brighter
future, and trying to affect allof those around you to do the
same.
SPEAKER_03 (45:52):
Yeah, that's good.
So...
The role of a leader, so you canbe a leader, right?
But then you get a leadershiprole.
That's the two different things.
SPEAKER_00 (46:02):
Exactly.
SPEAKER_03 (46:03):
And what happens is people, they mix them up.
Well, they don't.
They just don't separate them.
They don't mix them up.
They just don't separate them.
And that's what we're doingright now.
And you're seeing that theleader, it could be they're not
a boss.
They're just on the front lines.
I'll never forget, I worked fora company for 17 years.
(46:24):
And one of the guys, I'll sayit, he was all of these things,
okay?
But he was just a technician.
And you go on a job, and thatdude would be working and
serving and doing, and he was aleader.
(46:44):
He was humble, hungry, and hewas even honorable as a young
man.
He had integrity that was secondto none.
At least, again, from what Iknew.
And his name was Jamie.
But he was an amazing dude.
Jamie Drake, by the way.
(47:04):
He was an amazing dude.
And he was a leader.
And I followed him.
If he did something, I thought Ishould do it too.
But I'll never forget.
He was just a technician.
But I thought, man, this guy, hedoesn't have to be doing this.
And I think he got...
Journeyman of the Year everyyear.
I mean, he was just a good dude.
But anyway, I said that to sayall throughout life, you're
(47:28):
going to meet people that arehumble, hungry, and honorable
without a title, without a role.
And then you're going to meetleaders that have a leadership
role that don't have thoseattributes.
SPEAKER_00 (47:42):
Probably you'll meet more of those.
Yes, yes,
SPEAKER_03 (47:45):
yes.
But the ones that are makinggood, great change, that are
making...
that are, I guess you would say,the ones that are successful in
leadership roles have theseattributes.
SPEAKER_00 (48:00):
Absolutely.
SPEAKER_03 (48:00):
And we're going to continue to build on them.
This is just the foundation.
So if you're listening today...
Hey,
SPEAKER_01 (48:07):
I want to jump in one more time.
So something that I'm going totake away, and I'm going to
challenge you guys too,something that I'm going to be
intentional about doing.
These people that I talked abouttoday, I'm going to call them.
today and I'm going to let themknow yeah hey humble
SPEAKER_00 (48:25):
that's a great idea
SPEAKER_01 (48:26):
I talked about you and here's why and thank you go
check out the podcast
SPEAKER_00 (48:30):
just wanted to let you know yeah and here's the
link
SPEAKER_01 (48:34):
yeah that's great so maybe we can talk about that
next week too oh yeah
SPEAKER_03 (48:38):
yeah no that'd be good hey how they respond
SPEAKER_01 (48:42):
yeah
SPEAKER_03 (48:43):
Yeah, they can definitely cover some of that.
No text, phone call.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But how do they receive it?
So let's get to this real quick.
I know we're running out oftime.
I don't know how long we've beengoing, but it's okay.
So check this out.
So earlier, Daniel, you saidthat you told Maddie, you gave
her stuff to do, she does it,and she never wants the credit.
You remember that?
And that's good.
(49:03):
That's a sign of humility.
But I read a book not long agothat indicated that you should
receive it.
And we'll get into that.
Again, we don't have time today.
But what I do want to say isthat when someone tells you
you've done a great job, receiveit.
(49:26):
Okay?
Because not just there verbally,but you need to receive that in
your heart.
You need to hear it.
And then you need to receive it,like accept it.
And then you need to thank Godfor the opportunity to bless
that person.
in whatever way you do it.
Because oftentimes we think, oh,I don't want to receive that.
(49:50):
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Receive it.
You need to.
Because you blessed them in someway, and they're thanking you or
whatever.
You've got to receive it.
Good stuff.
So if those people say, oh, man,don't worry.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
I'm serious.
I want you to hear what I'mtelling you.
You changed my life.
(50:10):
You know what I mean?
So you tell them that.
And make them receive it.
Because...
Make them.
Oh, yeah.
Because, dude, they're going tohang up the phone after you've
made them receive it and they'regoing to receive it.
And you're going to change theirlife by encouraging them.
SPEAKER_02 (50:25):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (50:26):
So...
Boom.
Yeah.
Let's do it.
What about you, Maddie?
What was your takeaway?
Do you have one or did youalready do it?
SPEAKER_00 (50:33):
I think I already did it,
SPEAKER_03 (50:35):
didn't I?
Did
SPEAKER_00 (50:36):
you?
Okay.
That allure is just being ahuman.
SPEAKER_03 (50:38):
I got you.
I got
SPEAKER_00 (50:39):
you.
No, I mean...
All right,
SPEAKER_03 (50:44):
well, we will close.
Signing off, Jeremy, Maddie, andDaniel.
Thanks, guys.
Great
SPEAKER_00 (50:52):
job.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Great job.
Welcome to Impact Podcast.
(00:22):
My name is Jeremy Melton and I'myour host along with Daniel and
Maddie for the next 30 minutesto an hour or however long you
choose to tune in.
On this show, we will uncoversome things about life that can
help you on your journey to makean impact on the world that we
live in.
Our highlight question, whatkind of impact are you making on
(00:43):
the world that we live in?
And remember, our goal on thisshow is to generate the desire
to understand it sooner thanlater.
This is episode number two, sowe're going to get started.
Last week, we discussed impact.
influence and leadership wetalked about how your impact is
(01:04):
measured and y'all remember wediscussed how it was measured
but we came to the conclusionthat it was measured by the
people around you remember if animpact is an influence we talked
about how that ties toleadership and so because
leadership is also influence soall these things tie together at
(01:26):
some point i had said thatleadership could be synonymous
with influence And so we'regonna delve into that a little
bit deeper today, because somepeople don't agree with that.
They think it's a product of,which in the sense it is, but
they always go together.
So we discussed times in yourlife when you guys had done
things that you thought may havebeen difficult or impossible,
(01:48):
and how you felt on the otherside of having completed those.
We discussed the difference ineveryone's list of leaders.
Essentially, we did anintroduction the very first
podcast was all about howinfluence is tied to impact and
what leadership, how that tiesall in.
So we had some key takeawayslast week.
(02:09):
And in summary, when I waswriting the stuff for today, I
thought to myself, when you guyshad given your key takeaways and
even mine, we were all kind ofdoing some self-reflection,
right?
And so I did it all week,actually.
just self-reflecting on whatwe're talking about and how
(02:30):
we're going to move the needle.
So, Daniel, you said your keytakeaway was, what is my impact?
And I want to make an impact.
And you were inspired.
And I think you even said thaton the show.
But, you know, do you want toput more insight on that at all?
SPEAKER_01 (02:45):
So, since then, I've definitely been just kind of
like being more intentionalabout like thinking about like,
not only how I can have animpact on those around me, but
really I've been reflecting onhow this experience with you
guys and what we're here andwhat we're doing is gonna be
(03:06):
just so beneficial to me and mygrowth.
So Saturday, Mallory Media had areally big day.
I had four different guys atthree different events, and I
was trying to lead.
(03:27):
I can't be three places at once,but I'm over the phone.
I'm leading, you know, showingthem, like, telling them and
just being just real with them,telling them, like, hey, I trust
you.
Like, you know, I know thatyou're going to do a great job.
Follow your heart.
You know, do the job.
And even at the same time, whileI was doing that, I also...
(03:52):
had the kids here with thesitter so i'm i'm i'm leading
through the phone at home aswell and i thought about that
and just kind of just like youknow taking that all in and uh i
i have felt inspired and justbeen thinking about it a lot and
like you know what can i do totouch all these people in the
(04:14):
way that you know makes themfeel like they're just raise
them up you know
SPEAKER_03 (04:22):
That's good.
Thank you for sharing.
That's beautiful.
Maddie, you said you were goingto be the best human you could
be because there's no tellingwho was looking at you.
SPEAKER_00 (04:32):
Yep.
SPEAKER_03 (04:33):
Would you like to?
SPEAKER_00 (04:36):
Yeah, so I think one word that we continuously say is
intentional.
I mean, Daniel just said it.
I know I said it a few timeswhen I listened to it back last
week, so intentional.
I really took the wordintentional and I'm actually
planning.
I'm going to do a word of theyear for 2025.
(04:57):
And that's going to be my word.
And it's going to beintentional.
I love
SPEAKER_02 (05:00):
it.
SPEAKER_00 (05:00):
I love it.
No matter what I do, whether,like I said, checking out the
grocery store, whatever,everything I'm doing is
intentional when you're incontact with someone else.
So I think I was a better personthis last week.
Yeah.
made decisions that were veryintentional when normally I
(05:24):
think I would have just made ainstinct decision so yeah I
can't think of an example rightoff the bat mostly at work but
that's where I spend most of mytime so yeah intentional
SPEAKER_03 (05:40):
so you're doing things on purpose right you know
and that's awesome so I do wantto say that I mean Obviously,
our goal, we talked about ourgoal, which is on this show, is
to generate the desire tounderstand that sooner than
later about the impact, right?
So we accomplished that goalinternally right here last week.
(06:01):
And so as our viewers or ourlisteners or whatever you want
to call them, people participatein this show, hopefully that's
what happens to them too, right?
So not just for us, but we wantthat for them.
And so that's why we're doingwhat we're doing.
I mean, you guys left inspired.
I left inspired.
And I left having decided thatthis is what it's all about, and
I'm inspired to see what we willdo and accomplish with this.
(06:24):
So it's good.
I want to unpack some of thestuff that we discussed, and
we're going to get a little bitdeeper today and essentially
talk about leadership.
So we know we want to make theimpact.
We want to leave a legacybehind.
which is what we talk about allthe time.
The conduit for the legacy thatwe talk about is impact, and the
(06:48):
conduit for that is influence,and the conduit for that is
leadership.
So one after another.
But we know that leadership iswhat we have to do.
We have to lead well.
And so what exactly isleadership?
There's at least 100,000 bookswritten on leadership and
(07:09):
there's at least 10 millionpeople probably that have a
different opinion.
The funny thing is you mightlook at the definition of
leadership and in my opinion,everybody has a different
definition.
And so you've got all thesewonderful leaders, authors,
writers, pastors, all kinds ofpeople, and they all define it
(07:32):
differently.
And so...
You know, I counted last week,and I've personally read 17
books on leadership in mycareer.
So just say 20 years of my adultcareer work, maybe 20 times
five.
Don't
SPEAKER_00 (07:50):
do math.
SPEAKER_03 (07:52):
Anyway, we won't get into that.
But of the 17 books I've read,if I'm honest, I went back and
looked at, I just skimmed fouror five of them this past week
getting ready for the show.
And one of them in particularhad all the different
definitions of leadership.
And I thought, man, I want togive a definition, you know,
(08:16):
other than just to sayinfluence.
Because it is.
I do tell everybody it isinfluence.
But what I found was that weshould just define it by what it
produces and not necessarilywhat it is.
And so I've got that here, andI'm going to talk about that.
But it's not easy to define.
It's a deep subject.
But I'm going to give mydefinition and everybody can
(08:38):
pick it apart.
It's easier to define by theproduct of it and then discuss
the actions required to attainit.
And so more so than to bedefined, it is a place of being.
And so here we go.
The grand finale, here we go.
The leadership is influence.
(08:58):
The leader will...
This is where I'm about to tellyou what the leader does.
The leader will love and servepeople, inviting them on a
journey with courage to confrontchallenges head on first,
(09:19):
providing vision for the future,coaching along the way, being a
living example, settingexpectations while maintaining
the highest level of integrityand character imaginable.
throughout.
Y'all
SPEAKER_00 (09:39):
want to add to that?
A few things kind of pop out,and I have it written down right
here because it is a greatdefinition, I think.
But I think what this shows,though, is a leader is in
everyday past, present, andfuture.
It's not just right now, thatperson's a leader.
It is what they've done in thepast, what they're doing right
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now, and then what their visionis for the future.
So it's totally, it's a like,you know, once you kind of
really break it down how you'vedone, I mean, confronting
challenges, settingexpectations, being a good
example.
I mean, it's, a leader is somuch more than what people think
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when you hear leadership.
SPEAKER_01 (10:23):
Exactly.
SPEAKER_00 (10:24):
I think it's a great definition.
SPEAKER_01 (10:26):
What I think of when I hear that, and I'm looking at
it too, is those are all thingsthat I love to see in other
people and I try to be inmyself.
However, I never even reallytied it all in to leadership
personally.
Those are things that I want todo on a daily basis, but I never
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really stopped and thought that,oh, I'm being a leader.
No credit.
Hey,
SPEAKER_03 (10:58):
no, that's good.
It's good that you, number one,it's good that you notice it,
right?
But then number two, that youembrace it.
And number three, that you'reintentional about it.
Because I'll tell you this, inmy time, in my career, there's
been times when I was being agood leader and there's been
times when I wasn't, okay?
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There's been times when I wasbeing a great leader and there's
been times when I wasn't.
And if I'm not intentional aboutthese things, then I'm not,
okay?
And so...
I believe in we have seasons oflife.
And if, again, being a mom,being a dad, you have to be
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intentional about it.
And if you're not, you're notgoing to be a good mom and dad.
Right.
Okay?
And so when you highlight thisstuff and you bring it to the
top, that's when you see it.
It's almost like a revelationwhere you're seeing, hey, I'm
leading now that we're talkingabout it.
And so that's what...
That's why I tell everyone thatI know and that I meet a good
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leader.
The best leaders are students ofit because they're constantly
reading and studying leadershipto bring it to the top.
So having said that, I saidleadership is influence and then
I went through a series ofthings that leadership will do.
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And then influence is that inwhich is produced when
leadership is present.
The ability to inspire changeand create the desire for it
rather than mandating it.
So, lead, then influence, thenimpact.
Impact is held, legacy is left.
(12:47):
Okay, and in that order.
Yep.
Lead, influence, impact.
Impact is held, legacy is left.
And that's what we want to do islead the legacy.
So...
All right, so lead.
That's the part that we do.
Just do that, and the restfollows.
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So last week, I think I said ita couple times, but everyone is
a leader in some way, good orbad, because it is influence.
Everyone has an influence insome way.
Now, again, we won't delve intoit too much deeper.
We're going to move on and talkabout leadership, but I think
we've exhausted enough that weunderstand it.
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and how all this stuff tiestogether.
The dynamic is when you leadwell, you attain influence and
then an impact, and that equalsyour legacy.
All right, so how do you leadwell?
We're going to start with thefoundation.
Obviously, the first thing weneed to talk about is the
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foundation, and every week we'regoing to expand on that.
But the foundation isfoundation.
When I think about foundation,it takes me back to a book I
read once.
And this is one of the booksthat I brushed up on this week.
It's called Launching aLeadership Revolution.
It's by Chris Brady and OrenWoodward.
So they get all the credit.
Okay.
Great book, by the way.
They have a chapter in the bookand it's called Foundational
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Qualities.
And I remember when I wasthinking about the first thing
we're going to talk about withleadership, I thought about we
need to make sure thefoundation's there.
That's the first thing we'regoing to build on.
And I remember, distinctlyremembered, in that book, it's a
whole book about leadership, butI distinctly remember reading
the section, the chapter, Idon't know, it was chapter two
or three.
It's up close.
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It's up front.
But they talked about the thingsthat are foundational.
And there's a whole chapter onit.
And so it was good.
So I went back and read it.
There's a whole chapter on it,and it's good.
Don't waste your time.
Wait a minute.
I'm sorry.
Okay, here's what they saidright here.
They teach the foundation is aprerequisite for leadership
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development.
And if these cornerstones arenot met, then don't waste your
time trying to lead well.
And so what has to be present tobuild a foundation for leading?
And in the book, they saidhumility, no, it was humble,
honable, and honorable.
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And I didn't...
I didn't take the honable word.
I kind of expanded on that.
And what I said was hungry,humble, hungry, and honorable.
Okay.
And so humble was the word thatI chose to use instead of
honable, because in the sense,it was kind of the same thing.
And the word humble was betterfor me.
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And so I chose to use the wordhumble.
But let's talk about that.
So We need to be humble, hungry,and honorable.
That's the three things that weneed to be as leaders.
All right.
And so if you're listening rightnow and you think to yourself,
well, I'm a leader and I need toknow what I need to start with.
This is where you start.
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Okay.
This is where you start.
And this is why we're startinghere.
So let's talk about humility fora minute and being humble.
What is the first thing thatcomes to mind when
SPEAKER_01 (16:20):
When I think of humble, I think of someone that
serves, someone that isn'tarrogant and isn't full of
themselves.
You know, like I tell people alot, like I exude confidence,
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but not arrogance.
And I think there's a really bigdifference in those two things.
But just...
listening, being consistent,
SPEAKER_03 (16:53):
humble, you know.
That's good.
Well, this one's kind ofelusive, right?
Because as soon as you say toyourself, I'm humble, right?
You're not.
SPEAKER_00 (17:08):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (17:10):
So, go ahead, Maddie.
SPEAKER_00 (17:12):
I just, humble, I just think about it differently
now that we're talking about it.
I think of humble as someone ona receiving end of something,
not just in everyday life.
So you're humble because, youknow, you had surgery and
everyone brings you all the castroles and stuff and you, you
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don't expect people to do thatfor you.
Um, so you're just like, gosh,like you're just thankful and
humble.
I don't, I've not thought abouthumble as like a leadership
quality.
Um, obviously I'm beingschooled, I think, in a great
way.
I mean, because when you lookat, like, what you just said
(17:59):
about your characteristics, I'mlike, well, yeah, that would
100% be this, yeah.
So I think that Humble's a weirdone.
SPEAKER_01 (18:09):
Let me tell you about when, you know, and I
guess it's coming up, but who doyou think of went humble and I'm
going to raise her up.
I thought of Maddie becauseanytime that I put something on
Maddie and then she knocks itout of the park, she does a
great job.
I go to her, I'm like, Maddie,you killed it.
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All the credit.
And she's like, no, no, no, no,no, no.
She's humble.
SPEAKER_00 (18:38):
You're a team.
SPEAKER_03 (18:39):
I got something to teach you on that too.
Okay.
We'll get there maybe.
We're going to come back tothat.
Okay.
That's good.
So the fact that he said thatsays a lot about you, right?
It's very sweet.
So we should all seek to behumble because if you've ever
met someone, and I'm sure youhave, I mean, obviously you're
talking about Maddie, but ifyou've ever met someone that is
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extremely humble.
Now, let me say this becauseit's a caveat.
Someone that's too humble couldbe doing it out of pride
because, well, I'm humble, youknow, again.
There has to be a genuinehumbleness, okay?
And when you meet someone likethat, you are drawn to them,
(19:23):
okay?
And so...
There's a reason for that, too.
We'll get to that.
SPEAKER_00 (19:27):
Intentionally humble.
SPEAKER_03 (19:31):
Well, intentionally humble without being prideful.
Because, again, it's veryelusive.
It'll be there one minute and begone.
And so it reminds me of, I putit in here, the movie Shooter,
where the old gunsmith, he says,it ain't always what it seems,
Gunny.
As soon as you think you've gotit figured, you're wrong.
And that's the way it is withhumility.
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Humility is...
It's a superpower.
And, again, it can come and go.
We talk about it.
If you're not intentional, it'llleave you.
It will evade you.
And then you'll turn around andrealize it's evaded you.
And it's like, oh, God, we'vegot to get it back.
Okay?
And at least for me, you know,maybe I'm weird.
But, Maddie, who's the mosthumble person that you know?
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The most humble person that youknow.
SPEAKER_00 (20:19):
The most
SPEAKER_03 (20:20):
humble.
The most humble.
SPEAKER_00 (20:24):
So, I've tossed this around.
I went between my mom and myhusband.
And I'm going to go with myhusband.
Because he truly is just...
(20:44):
He's patient.
He doesn't ever really doanything for himself.
Like, I mean, it is...
He puts...
us the kid the kids family workeverything else before he will
do anything for himself um butthen he's also so i can't say
humble but i mean he's so umsupportive so it's like me
(21:10):
picking up different things todo um with daniel little side
hustle stuff there's no everquestion.
If I want to do it, like, heasks questions, absolutely, but
there's no pushback because he'sthe number one supporter for all
of us.
Right.
And I don't think that he knowsthat.
Like, I don't think...
Well,
SPEAKER_03 (21:28):
he will now.
SPEAKER_00 (21:29):
Yeah, I know.
No, I think, you know, like, hebought a...
We just bought a new truck.
And, like, before that, he had alittle Honda Accord, and he
bought that for Honda Civic orsomething because...
That was what we needed for himto travel to and from work.
He didn't get what he wanted.
He got what was practical forthe family.
(21:50):
And now we finally, I was like,let's get you a truck.
Let's do it.
Good.
SPEAKER_03 (21:58):
Excellent.
That's excellent.
SPEAKER_01 (22:00):
Danny, what you got?
So I immediately thought of, hisname's Peter.
He lives in my old neighborhood.
And Peter is such a uniqueperson.
neighbor i mean he's just thatguy in the community that i need
anything whether it'sconversation a task or a friend
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he's there 100 of the time andi'll tell you real quick the way
that i met peter when we firstmoved to madison you know back
in 2017 i bought this one acrehouse on one acre.
I couldn't afford a Ryderlawnmower and I was doing the
push lawn mowing in this wholeacre backyard.
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I did it three times and it'dtake me like seven hours to push
mow this lawn.
And that third time, Hadn't methim.
He's on his mower, and he justcomes out of nowhere.
I feel like red, white, andblue, like this superhero comes
riding back.
He's like, I got you, brother.
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And he just knocks it out, andhe's out there mowing until 9
p.m.
It got dark, and he just keptgoing.
I was, you need another beer?
You need another beer?
But it just showed me the typeof person he is, and then
getting to know him, I've onlyhumbled myself.
Mr.
Peter.
I mean, just there foreverybody.
(23:25):
Great dude.
That's
SPEAKER_03 (23:26):
good.
So the most humble person that Iknow, and this was very hard for
me, honestly.
I know a lot of people, whichI'm sure you all do too, but I
know a lot of people in theleadership world, and so I've
followed some good leaders thatI've learned from, and I wanted
to pick one of them, but fordifferent reasons.
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When you talk about the mosthumble person that you know,
That's hard.
SPEAKER_01 (23:51):
It's a lot of pressure.
SPEAKER_03 (23:52):
It is.
And so I said my mom, likeMaddie, and she doesn't know
that.
I actually was talking to themabout it over the weekend and
she was humble and she said, oh,it's not me.
But it is because when you thinkabout caring, self-aware,
accountable, patient, generous,good listener, open to learning,
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serving, letting others take thecredit, complimenting others.
When you read through all those,it's hard for one person to
attain all of them and be ahuman.
That's right.
Absolutely.
Because we are, by nature,sinful creatures.
And so all of these things, ifyou go, anyway, we're not going
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to get super biblical today, butif you go to the fruit of the
Spirit, In the Bible.
And anyway, so it all kind ofmeshes in.
But anyway, I told my mom.
And that I believe the reason wechoose our moms is because they
love you unconditionally.
Okay?
And the world doesn't.
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And other people don't.
So I can, I mean, I'll shout outto Jeff Birch.
I was raised and mentored byJeff Birch.
He's a humble dude.
But when you say the mosthumble, It was my mom because
she loved me unconditionally.
That's good.
Anyway, having said that.
So Philippians 2.3, I'm going tohave a Bible verse for this just
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because this is do nothing outof selfish ambition or vain
conceit, rather in humility.
Value others above yourself.
That is the definition.
Value others above yourself.
That's the most important part.
And again, that's not alwayseasy depending on where you are
in life.
And if your glass is full, thenyou can be humble.
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But if your glass is empty, it'shard.
In fact, you don't even see it.
And so here we are, again,intentional about seeing that.
So let's go to the second one,which is...
That was good stuff.
Yeah, being hungry.
This one is important because itis the fuel for the leader.
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Hunger.
So...
It's the fuel to start, the fuelto run, and the fuel to keep
going.
And some say being hungry isdiscontentment or whatever, but
I call it ambition.
And the leader has to beambitious.
Everything can get better, andthat includes us as individuals.
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The desire to win exists inevery effective leader.
So, Maddie, who is the mosthungry person that you know?
Now, you might be thinking,well, we're not talking about
food, obviously, but you mightbe thinking, well, I can't
really assimilate that.
I would assimilate it withpassion.
Someone that is hungry forgrowth and passionate.
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Who's the most of that that youknow?
SPEAKER_00 (27:06):
I'm getting a little...
I think when the word most isthrown in front, it makes my
mind, it's like a littledifferent for me.
I think of, I think of so many.
So like I'm trying to wrap myhead around, I think one of them
(27:27):
is, her name is Marie.
She helps run the Lake OconeeFood and Wine Festival.
She's actually the director,co-director with her husband.
And they are a powerhouse.
And I mean...
She's got her way.
She leads so many people thatwant to be involved with that
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festival, including myself.
Sponsors.
She works with the Ritz.
She is just...
She pushes people to do better,to grow, to get the festival to
continue, to thrive every year.
She's the first person I thoughtof.
She's disciplined.
(28:09):
She doesn't...
you know, go off the path ofwhat the end goal is.
And I just, I envy that in her.
Yeah.
She might be the most.
SPEAKER_03 (28:23):
Yeah.
So I thought, and we'll getDaniel up in a minute.
I thought about my brother.
So this weekend I was in, itwas, we were having Christmas at
my mom's and my brother wasthere and, He'll listen to this
later, too, I'm sure.
But he was there, and we weretalking.
And I remember at one point inthe conversation, I said to
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myself, man, this dude hasgotten passionate about what he
does.
And honestly, he made the top ofmy list.
I was like, I mean, he was justrelentless, okay?
And he was talking about histeam and his people, and he's
become a leader.
And I...
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I'm proud of him because he'sgrown so much as a person, as a
human, as a leader, as abusiness.
He owns his own business.
But that wasn't in him four orfive years ago.
And I've watched him grow in hisleadership ability with his
company.
But when he was talking to me, Iliterally said to myself, wow,
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this dude is hungry.
His passion is contagious.
He's relentless for the goal.
And that is what great leadersare.
Half.
All of them.
And so you want to, you know,again, if you're listening to
the show, you want to find whatmakes you hungry.
Okay?
If you're a leader.
And that, then you have to feedthat because it will die too.
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Remember, it will die.
Inside of you, it will go away.
And so you actually, and this issomething that you can read
about if you want, but youactually need to be so hungry
that you have enemies.
And that sounds crazy, butsomething or someone that fuels
you.
And then that needs to beconsistently looked at and
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talked about and gone through,and it needs to continue to make
you hungry.
SPEAKER_01 (30:22):
So, Daniel, you got one?
Yeah, I want to jump back to, Ithink, episode one, you asked
who's had the biggest impact onme, and it was Jeremy Mathis.
Um, when it comes to hungry,I've never seen hungry like
Jeremy.
SPEAKER_03 (30:40):
Wow.
SPEAKER_01 (30:41):
And he is just committed and he's persistent
and there's no challenge thatgets in his way.
That's going to slow him down.
He's going to solve, he solvesproblems.
Um, he just, and he leads hisguys the right way.
Um,
SPEAKER_00 (31:03):
I think that the two of y'all are, Hungry.
I mean, seriously.
And I, fun fact for all thelisteners, I just met you.
So like, we really don't knoweach other very, very well.
But I mean, just being indifferent meetings, being on the
podcast, I mean, literallysitting in between the two
hungriest people in my day today life.
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You know, I talked about Marieand she is, but that's just,
I've known her for forever, youknow?
So it's kind of, I can't saythat y'all are the most hungry
people that I know because itdiscredits everyone else that
I've known for so long.
Yeah, because
SPEAKER_03 (31:42):
everybody's listening.
SPEAKER_00 (31:43):
Yeah, everyone.
No, I really do think that thetwo of y'all are.
I mean, after the last podcast,the vibes and the energy from
the both of you just take myenergy up,
SPEAKER_01 (31:59):
too.
I'm flattered.
Thank you.
I am, too.
Thank you.
I'll
SPEAKER_03 (32:02):
receive that.
So I said it a while ago,hunger, these are disciplines,
okay, leadership.
And now again, so if you don'tfocus on hunger, it can go away,
okay?
You can lose your appetite, perse.
And so you want to keep thatstoked up.
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All right, so passionate,driven, determined, relentless.
Those are the words, and we'veall talked about them.
Colossians 3.23 says, Whateveryou do, work at it with all your
heart as working for the Lord,not for human masters.
That in and of itself has fueledme.
When the world wouldn't, thatverse does.
I love it.
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Okay, number three, honorable.
Character counts, right?
UNKNOWN (32:52):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (32:52):
The leader must be honorable.
Honor is not used very oftentoday.
How often do you hear that word?
Not very often.
And this is one of the highestbars for one to reach.
But as leaders, we ought toaspire to be honorable.
And I read once that honor isintegrity and character sewn
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together.
Okay, so integrity and characterhad a baby, and that is honor.
UNKNOWN (33:22):
Okay.
SPEAKER_03 (33:23):
Living a life of integrity and character is
paramount for the leader.
The world, in my opinion, theworld does not put enough focus
on this because at the end ofthe day, the leader, not always,
but the leader during his tenureas a leader, as he's leading his
group of people, it's not alwaysthere.
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There'll be times when it's noteven relevant because he's
not...
in a position where he's makingdecisions that change it.
But this is where a lot ofleaders fail.
Because the moment that you letyour people down and you break
integrity or character, you'redone.
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You can mess up, you can not behumble for a day, you can not be
hungry for a day, but if youbreak your honor, you're going
to be years recovering fromthat.
And so I did this one lastbecause in my opinion, it's one
of the more difficult to attainand it's also the most
(34:33):
important.
Because again, it's like trust.
Once you break trust, how quickdo you get it back?
Or get in debt.
You get in debt a lot fasterthan you can get out of it.
And this is one of those things.
Honorable, being an honorableleader, it's not easy to do.
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It's really easy to slip andmess it up.
And it's really hard to getback.
And so the most effectiveleaders in all of time have led
with honor.
And I put in here, one must holdthe wheel all the way through.
The road gets curvy and theshoulder gets wide.
And it's easy to get off track.
(35:16):
But great leaders.
stay on the road.
And that's the separation, in myopinion.
The ones that are very effectiveand they go a long ways and they
continue to lead, you know, youcould say they win Super Bowls.
Those are the dudes that don'tbreak integrity or their
character.
(35:37):
You know, and the ones that dofail.
So, Maddie, Who's the mosthonorable person that you
SPEAKER_00 (35:47):
know?
This is very hard for me.
And I don't know if I have ananswer.
That's okay.
And not because I can'tnecessarily think of one, but I
think that honor and beinghonorable is so intentional.
(36:08):
But there are very few peoplethat I think actually are
honorable people.
um, I mean, I think that, let metake that back.
I think that there are a lot ofpeople who are honorable and,
but like you were just saying,if you break that integrity or
character, you're, I mean, ittakes a while to get that back.
(36:30):
And I think that, you know, themost honorable person should be
one in my life that I can thinkof like this, that hasn't, you
know, broken their character orshown a darker side of the, you
know, things like that.
Um, And I think of mygrandfather, but he's passed
away.
(36:50):
I mean, but also...
Hey,
SPEAKER_03 (36:51):
that's good.
That
SPEAKER_00 (36:52):
works.
Yeah, I mean, he's...
We still talk about him to thisday.
You know, I definitely thinkthat he was a very honorable
man.
We've learned a lot of greatcharacteristics on how to be
human beings and how to be greatpeople.
Yeah.
(37:13):
But it's kind of sad to thinkthat I can't think of anyone
else.
SPEAKER_03 (37:18):
It's not easy to attain.
Not at all.
It's very difficult.
SPEAKER_01 (37:23):
Honor is difficult.
And you're right.
It's really easy or quick tolose and then it's gone.
And I've got some personal stuffthat I have been battling.
It's respect.
It's trust.
It's loyalty.
And You're right.
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You don't just take it and thenget it back.
And it's about doing the rightthing when no one's watching.
And that's being intentional andwho do you want to be.
What I think of the mosthonorable person that I know,
it's this partner that I workedwith when I was in the
restaurant industry.
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His name's Clark.
And he's just a differentindividual.
And he's very unique.
But what I like most about Clarkis just the way that he handles
his relationships.
I mean, he employs a lot ofpeople, but he treats the
dishwasher just the same as hedid his business partner.
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Everyone is on a completelylevel playing field.
And the years that I spentworking side by side with Clark,
he rubbed off a lot of...
And I don't even think I waspaying attention or really
taking it in, but looking back,it's very clear that...
I picked up a lot of what hetook back from him and hold it
(38:49):
with me now.
So Clark, I mean, yeah, he justdoes everything the right way.
It doesn't matter.
And I mean, he's not perfect.
He likes to have a good time andhe's rough around the edges, but
it doesn't matter because heknows how to treat people.
He knows how to treat people andhe does it every single day,
consistent.
SPEAKER_03 (39:08):
And in the end, you know he's going to do the right
thing.
SPEAKER_01 (39:09):
Every single time.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (39:11):
So that...
You know, look, honestly, I hada hard time coming up with this
one because you see so manydifferent sides of so many
different people, right?
And when I think about anhonorable person, which could be
the wrong definition, because Ididn't look it up, speaking of,
but I think about someone thatwould never lie, never, they
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would never do anything wrong,right?
Always going to do the rightthing, okay?
And I've known some greatleaders in my time, but I can't
say they've always done that.
I can always find somethingwhere, man, why did he do that?
(39:58):
Or he made that mistake.
And so when I put that badge onsomeone, the most honorable
person that I know, it wouldn'tjust be the person that has done
that less, right?
SPEAKER_00 (40:10):
Yeah, I mean, yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (40:11):
So I had a couple, but my old pastor was an
honorable man, you know, atleast as far as I know, right?
So he was a good friend, and hemay hear this one day.
His name was Lane Sanders, andhe was an honorable man, best I
could tell, right?
I mean, he was a good dude.
He always did the right things.
(40:32):
He was a good leader.
He was honorable.
A lot of times when someonesacrifices their life in any
kind of way, we see that ashonorable.
That was an honorable thing todo.
So I oftentimes think aboutpeople that are in the military,
(40:54):
right?
People that are in the fireservice.
People that...
I mean, those types of peoplecan be honorable too.
And so...
But...
It's a big deal when you startthinking about the person that
you know, the most honorableperson that you know.
And so there again, that's thebar that we should shoot for and
(41:16):
try to attain.
SPEAKER_00 (41:17):
I think, too, with honorable, you were talking
about how they act.
When I think of someone that'shonorable, it is no matter where
you are, what you see is whatyou get.
They're the same type of person.
They handle things the same.
You know, it's like...
It's not a hothead dad that'sgoing to yell at the umpire
(41:38):
behind the plate.
They lead with their best footforward at all times.
SPEAKER_03 (41:47):
They don't make mistakes.
SPEAKER_00 (41:48):
It's not because they're a pastor at church.
It's not just when they're apastor.
It's when they're a dad, they'rea brother.
At home, outside.
SPEAKER_03 (41:59):
It's interesting.
One thing that I thought about,too, most people that you would
give that badge that's someonethat's honorable is older
someone that has lived lifetypically when you give someone
that badge of honor you canthink about it right now just
(42:20):
think about it someone thatyou'd give it to today and
typically they're older likegray hair 60s 70s you said you
mentioned your grandpa yeah um Ididn't get to know my granddad
very well because he died when Iwas young.
But I was told he was anhonorable man, but I don't know.
But as you get older, you becomemore honorable.
(42:42):
You know, life is...
We're born and we're full of sinand we can't do anything without
getting screamed at.
We get taught.
And all throughout life, we'relearning how to be good humans.
And then at the end of life, wefinally figure it out and we
cross over.
But...
Being honorable is somethingthat when I think about it, it's
(43:03):
always older people becauseyounger people are still
learning.
And they're learning that thatdoesn't work.
And you get refined in your oldage.
And so the older you get, themore honorable.
The key is for a young man toseek that out and make decisions
(43:24):
based off of that.
And get that badge as soon as hecan.
Again, we talk about ourmission, our goal.
to highlight all this stuffsooner than later.
So we can work on it.
So the leader is humble, hungry,and honorable.
Let's talk about takeaways.
Number one takeaway.
(43:45):
Danny?
SPEAKER_01 (43:46):
Yeah, easy, easy, easy, easy.
Hey, look.
What I want to say is breakingit down like that really helps
me kind of wrap my head aroundit.
And humble, hungry, and honorare just like, I want somebody
(44:09):
to talk about me like that.
I want someone to talk about melike that.
And that's the biggestcompliment that I could ever
receive.
And that's what I'm taking away.
I mean, that's what I'm takingaway.
So let's figure that out.
Now that I know what the formulais to an extent.
(44:30):
Like, what do I got to do?
It's an Excel spreadsheet.
Yeah.
Hey, that's right.
SPEAKER_03 (44:35):
You want to be those things.
And the listener, that's whatyou want to be.
If you're going to lead, thoseare things you have to shoot
for.
And those are foundational.
Thank you for sharing that.
Mary?
SPEAKER_00 (44:48):
I think my biggest takeaway is that the word leader
is misconstrued.
Um...
I don't think, I think whensomeone thinks of a leader, like
we talked last episode, you'rethinking about the bigwigs.
You asked us who we think of asleaders.
We gave big names.
(45:12):
You know what I'm saying?
And then now, I look at it andthe people that I've mentioned
in here, those did not comeacross my mind when you asked me
who's a good leader.
I think my takeaway is thatbeing a leader doesn't mean that
you're leading a bunch ofpeople, obviously, like we've
talked about.
(45:32):
It's you're being a good humanand you are, to your core, very
intentional.
And you're moving forward for abetter future, a brighter
future, and trying to affect allof those around you to do the
same.
SPEAKER_03 (45:52):
Yeah, that's good.
So...
The role of a leader, so you canbe a leader, right?
But then you get a leadershiprole.
That's the two different things.
SPEAKER_00 (46:02):
Exactly.
SPEAKER_03 (46:03):
And what happens is people, they mix them up.
Well, they don't.
They just don't separate them.
They don't mix them up.
They just don't separate them.
And that's what we're doingright now.
And you're seeing that theleader, it could be they're not
a boss.
They're just on the front lines.
I'll never forget, I worked fora company for 17 years.
(46:24):
And one of the guys, I'll sayit, he was all of these things,
okay?
But he was just a technician.
And you go on a job, and thatdude would be working and
serving and doing, and he was aleader.
(46:44):
He was humble, hungry, and hewas even honorable as a young
man.
He had integrity that was secondto none.
At least, again, from what Iknew.
And his name was Jamie.
But he was an amazing dude.
Jamie Drake, by the way.
(47:04):
He was an amazing dude.
And he was a leader.
And I followed him.
If he did something, I thought Ishould do it too.
But I'll never forget.
He was just a technician.
But I thought, man, this guy, hedoesn't have to be doing this.
And I think he got...
Journeyman of the Year everyyear.
I mean, he was just a good dude.
But anyway, I said that to sayall throughout life, you're
(47:28):
going to meet people that arehumble, hungry, and honorable
without a title, without a role.
And then you're going to meetleaders that have a leadership
role that don't have thoseattributes.
SPEAKER_00 (47:42):
Probably you'll meet more of those.
Yes, yes,
SPEAKER_03 (47:45):
yes.
But the ones that are makinggood, great change, that are
making...
that are, I guess you would say,the ones that are successful in
leadership roles have theseattributes.
SPEAKER_00 (48:00):
Absolutely.
SPEAKER_03 (48:00):
And we're going to continue to build on them.
This is just the foundation.
So if you're listening today...
Hey,
SPEAKER_01 (48:07):
I want to jump in one more time.
So something that I'm going totake away, and I'm going to
challenge you guys too,something that I'm going to be
intentional about doing.
These people that I talked abouttoday, I'm going to call them.
today and I'm going to let themknow yeah hey humble
SPEAKER_00 (48:25):
that's a great idea
SPEAKER_01 (48:26):
I talked about you and here's why and thank you go
check out the podcast
SPEAKER_00 (48:30):
just wanted to let you know yeah and here's the
link
SPEAKER_01 (48:34):
yeah that's great so maybe we can talk about that
next week too oh yeah
SPEAKER_03 (48:38):
yeah no that'd be good hey how they respond
SPEAKER_01 (48:42):
yeah
SPEAKER_03 (48:43):
Yeah, they can definitely cover some of that.
No text, phone call.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But how do they receive it?
So let's get to this real quick.
I know we're running out oftime.
I don't know how long we've beengoing, but it's okay.
So check this out.
So earlier, Daniel, you saidthat you told Maddie, you gave
her stuff to do, she does it,and she never wants the credit.
You remember that?
And that's good.
(49:03):
That's a sign of humility.
But I read a book not long agothat indicated that you should
receive it.
And we'll get into that.
Again, we don't have time today.
But what I do want to say isthat when someone tells you
you've done a great job, receiveit.
(49:26):
Okay?
Because not just there verbally,but you need to receive that in
your heart.
You need to hear it.
And then you need to receive it,like accept it.
And then you need to thank Godfor the opportunity to bless
that person.
in whatever way you do it.
Because oftentimes we think, oh,I don't want to receive that.
(49:50):
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Receive it.
You need to.
Because you blessed them in someway, and they're thanking you or
whatever.
You've got to receive it.
Good stuff.
So if those people say, oh, man,don't worry.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
I'm serious.
I want you to hear what I'mtelling you.
You changed my life.
(50:10):
You know what I mean?
So you tell them that.
And make them receive it.
Because...
Make them.
Oh, yeah.
Because, dude, they're going tohang up the phone after you've
made them receive it and they'regoing to receive it.
And you're going to change theirlife by encouraging them.
SPEAKER_02 (50:25):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (50:26):
So...
Boom.
Yeah.
Let's do it.
What about you, Maddie?
What was your takeaway?
Do you have one or did youalready do it?
SPEAKER_00 (50:33):
I think I already did it,
SPEAKER_03 (50:35):
didn't I?
Did
SPEAKER_00 (50:36):
you?
Okay.
That allure is just being ahuman.
SPEAKER_03 (50:38):
I got you.
I got
SPEAKER_00 (50:39):
you.
No, I mean...
All right,
SPEAKER_03 (50:44):
well, we will close.
Signing off, Jeremy, Maddie, andDaniel.
Thanks, guys.
Great
SPEAKER_00 (50:52):
job.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Great job.
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