January 19, 2025 • 32 mins
In this episode of IMPACT | Leadership & Legacy, hosts Jeremy Melton, Daniel, and Maddie dive deep into the essence of leadership and its undeniable connection to the impact we make on the world. Together, they explore thought-provoking questions like, "What kind of impact are you making?" and "How is leadership influencing your story?"
From personal journeys to reflections on iconic leaders throughout history, this episode unpacks how influence shapes legacies, why leadership is foundational to change, and how your story—unique and unwritten—holds the power to inspire generations.
Join us for an engaging conversation about purpose, leadership lessons, and the pursuit of a meaningful life. Don’t miss this opportunity to uncover key takeaways and answer the meaningful questions that could redefine your journey.
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SPEAKER_01 (00:35):
Welcome to Impact Podcast.
My name is Jeremy Milton and I'myour host along with Daniel and
Maddie.
For the next 30 minutes to anhour or however long you choose
to tune in on this show, we willuncover or eliminate some things
about life that can help you onyour journey to make an impact
on the world that we live in.
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We're going to broadcast anepisode from time to time when
opportunities arise.
We're going to shoot for once amonth, maybe bi-weekly, whatever
we can do to keep up.
We'll have guests join us,including leaders of all walks
of life.
Our highlight question, whatkind of impact are you making on
the world that we live in?
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And I believe the answer to thisquestion can change generations
of people.
For some, the answer may be onthe tip of their tongue.
For some, they don't know.
And for some, they may not evencare.
But I believe for most, it is apoint of inflection.
a point we all yearn tounderstand at some time in our
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life, a point where we embracethe question and seek to build
it up.
And our goal, Daniel, Maddie,and I, is to generate the desire
to understand it sooner thanlater.
I believe the pursuit to answerthis question is where we find
purpose and value in life.
And I also believe in order tomake an impact, you have to lead
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and serve people at some level.
And so this is where the studyof leadership comes into play.
So just hear us out.
For the balance of my life,whatever I have left, I intend
to explore and understand thisat its deepest level of meaning.
And the truth is, everything inthis world rises and falls on
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leadership.
That's my mantra.
Try to live by that.
The presence of leadership canchange the world along with the
absence of it.
Presence or absence.
Presence.
of leadership will drasticallyaffect everything around you and
the world that we live in.
So, we're getting started, andyou might say, well, how do you
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measure the impact that you haveon the world?
And I'm going to put Maddie onthe spot.
So, Maddie, what do you think?
How do you measure the impactthat you have on the world?
SPEAKER_00 (02:53):
I don't know.
I would say that it's morecase-by-case, person-by-person,
to be honest with you,because...
I feel like if you've got animpact on people that are
directly next to you or whoyou're raising as human beings
or who you're leading at workwhen you're a manager or a
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friend, I think that the impactis totally different for each
person.
But I think that it's...
you know, I do think that itimpacts the world because then
it trickles down.
So then that person carries itto the next one, hopefully.
Your kids grow up doing, youknow, what you've taught them to
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do their whole lives, hopingthat you've made a positive
impact on your kids.
So I think that it's kind of abold question, but I think that
it's definitely just based onwho– is receiving your impact, I
guess.
SPEAKER_01 (03:54):
Okay.
SPEAKER_04 (03:55):
Brown, what you think?
Who is...
I love that.
Who is receiving it and how arethey receiving it?
And to me, I mean, when it comesto impact, I think of my kids.
I think of my kids first andforemost.
And like, what kind of people amI leading them to become so
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that...
And honestly, don't we all justwant our kids to be able to
contribute to society in apositive way?
Oh, yeah.
And, you know, be leaders inthemselves.
Right.
Whatever that looks like.
And I totally agree that ifimpact looks different, if I'm
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communicating and working withmy children compared to working
with my team at work and whatgoals we're trying to accomplish
there...
or anywhere, otherrelationships, church, it
doesn't matter.
But impacts are different, butit's just about what do we want
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to share and who do we want tobe and who do we want to lead
and guide.
SPEAKER_01 (05:10):
Right.
So it can be measured in manyways, right?
I mean, you could say, well,look at what I've done or look
at what I've been able to do Or,you know, I built houses, I
started businesses, I have nicecars, I've worked here and
there, I went here and there.
I mean, you could try to, Imean, lots of people can measure
it in different ways.
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But is that it, right?
So the question is, how do youactually measure your impact?
And I don't know how manyfunerals you guys have been to,
probably a lot, been to a bunch.
And that's, to me, that's whereyou're measured, right?
Right.
Your lifespan is measured rightthere.
And what does your friend say toyour kid when you're gone,
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right?
And the impact that you had ontheir life.
And so at the end of the day, Ibelieve your impact is measured
by the people around you, okay?
And the reason I believe that isbecause material things die and
rot.
And you're really one generationaway from everything you've ever
built brick and mortar that willdecay and go away forever.
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or be someone else's to tend tofor their life, right?
And so, you know, one day whenyou die, your family and friends
will gather and celebrate yourlife at a funeral of some kind,
and they'll talk about theimpact that you had on their
life, and some good and somebad, maybe some bad, you know?
In the end, there'll be a story,and a story that only you can
write.
And so God gave you life andpleaded with you all along the
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way to have a relationship withHim, and yet you still choose
the life that you live.
And so you have a responsibilityto leave an impact, a positive
impact on your kids and theworld that we live in.
And so this show, the idea isthat we begin to uncover the
impact that you have or create amission inside of you to make an
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impact better in the future.
And so that's kind of...
why we're here, right?
Let's do it.
To generate some impact desire.
So, you know, we'll get started.
What is the definition of impactby, you know, the definition is,
in the noun form, it's theaction of one object coming
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forcibly into contact withanother.
And as a verb...
It is to have a strong effect.
This is all Google, by the way.
Have a strong effect on someoneor something.
And so if you Google it, that'swhat you come up with.
And then, of course, the synonymis influence.
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And so influence.
So if an impact is an influence,then we're tied to leadership.
Because leadership is influence.
Leadership is also influence.
And So when we start talkingabout impact, that's where the
leadership comes in, and that'show important it is.
So these are synonymous with oneanother.
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So you've got impact issynonymous with leadership.
It's pretty important.
Because earlier I saideverything rises and falls on
leadership.
And so here we go.
Your measure of impact on theworld is directly related to
your level of influence.
or leadership.
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And so your ability to leadothers and follow correlates
with your impact.
And so when you talk about yourkids and you do want to leave an
impact for your kids, then it'salmost a duty to learn to lead,
right?
And because leadership isobviously a gift, but it's
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something that can be worked onand improved upon And practice
makes perfect.
So leadership is veryinteresting.
And so the podcast, we're goingto talk about leadership and
impact and how those correlate.
And we're going to bring someguests on at some point to share
with us about their leadershipstyle.
And so that's the goal of thepodcast.
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So leadership has alwaysinterested me.
It's always been fascinating tome to watch people get things
done.
In life, I always found that Ithrived on what people said
could not be done.
Have you ever had a time wheresomeone said that's going to be
very difficult or that can't bedone, and you did it, either of
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y'all?
SPEAKER_04 (09:44):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, what comes to mindis career and where I'm at now.
as a business and also thinkback in the past and like, you
know, when I was 29, 30 and Iopened a restaurant and I didn't
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have any money.
SPEAKER_02 (10:07):
Right.
SPEAKER_04 (10:08):
I just kind of believed it and dreamed it and
put together the right team.
And, you know, I'm not sayingthat I was sole leadership.
There was a team of us, but, butlots, I didn't believe it was
going to happen.
Yeah.
We started putting togetherbusiness plans, and I'm like,
this is fun, and I like talkingabout it, but I don't know if
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this is going to happen.
It did.
So that stands out.
Maddie?
SPEAKER_00 (10:41):
I have two different instances that just stick out in
my head.
One is kind of, I got my realestate license recently, which
was one of the hardest thingsI've ever, you know, book smart
wise, had to do.
Because it was, I mean, it's atough class.
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You've got to study and studyand study and the tests that you
have to take to get there.
And I did it for work.
And, you know, it was kind oflike one of those things where I
just, they said that they, itwould be a great idea for me to
do it.
So I did it.
And I was kind of doing itincognito.
Like they didn't really knowthat I was doing it.
And I was very proud.
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Everyone's like, oh, yeah, havefun trying to do that.
It's really hard if you've gotkids and a family and a life
that you want to uphold yoursocial life.
And so that kind of drove me.
They were kind of telling methat I couldn't do it, so I just
did it.
And then on the other side, moreof a personal side, my husband
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and I, we got pregnant reallyyoung.
And it was one of those thingswhere, you know, everyone looks
at you like you're stupid and,oh, you're never going to– this
is going to be bad.
You're going to live with yourmom.
You've got to move back in withyour mom.
And we took the ball and ranwith it and now have two
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beautiful children.
And they're 12 and 9, and we'reliving a great life.
But it was one of those thingswhere– The family, and not that
my family's never beensupportive.
They're very supportive, butit's always the, are you sure
that you guys don't need help?
Or how are y'all going to dothis?
How are you going to make itwork?
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And with every negative comment,we just rose above it.
SPEAKER_01 (12:34):
Right, and that's what's so great, right?
So when you overcome obstaclesand when you overcome the
naysayers, we'll call them,that's when you really feel
something inside.
And that's when you really grow.
SPEAKER_03 (12:48):
And
SPEAKER_01 (12:49):
so, you know, the moment someone said it's hard or
could not be done, I was like,sign me up, right?
Because that's where I want tobe.
And that's where you do yourmost growing.
So I'm sure that my mother andfather could attest to this.
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But when I was young, I had thedesire to be in charge.
Imagine that.
And I guess that hasn't changed.
But I wanted to be thecourageous one, okay?
And courage is something thatought to be sought today because
there's so many people that arenot courageous.
And so part of being a leader isyou must be courageous.
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I wanted to be the one thatjumped in and out, figured it
out.
And as I've gotten older, Irealize more and more every day
how much I don't know and that Ineed to learn, right?
And in learning that, I realizedthat I needed to study and learn
a lot.
And Daniel and I talked beforethe podcast about learning and
how important learning is.
And, you know, we ought toalways be in a state of
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learning.
And so it's funny.
I told Daniel earlier, when mywife and I got married in 2011–
I began a study of leadershipbecause I wasn't a good leader,
okay?
And my mentor once told me, hesaid, you know, in order to
lead, you've got to be able tofollow.
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And I didn't really understandthat because I was thinking,
well, you want me to be incharge or do you want me to
follow?
I didn't really understand untillater when I figured it out that
you need to be able to submitand follow someone in order to
lead at any given time.
And so anyway, I got married in2011 to my wife and began a
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journey to study leadershipbecause I needed it.
I bought my first book.
It was a John Maxwell book.
I bought it on my honeymoon.
So literally, we went to abookstore and I bought a book
and I started reading.
And I don't read enough now, butI try to read as much as I can.
I'm intentional about it.
And since then, I've read andlistened to lots of teaching on
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the subject.
I've sought out some mentors atevery level along the way.
I can never list them all here.
Lots of people have credit forwhat I've been able to do.
You'll hear about some of thatin this show.
But I've observed lots ofleaders make mistakes, and some
do well, right?
So there's good leaders and badones, but nonetheless, they're
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leaders.
So they have influence, andtherefore, they have an impact.
And so...
Um, good and bad, uh, could berelative based on person's
values and principles, but, um,so, all right, let me ask you,
Daniel, give me, like, just tellme five leaders that you know
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that you can think of.
Five.
SPEAKER_04 (15:48):
Just in general or a bit
SPEAKER_01 (15:49):
personal?
Well, five leaders that, thatyou know have had a big impact
on the earth, on the, on theworld, right?
So just, who comes to mind?
Well, first comes to
SPEAKER_04 (15:58):
mind Bill Gates, Elon Musk, We'll say Donald
Trump.
Okay.
We'll say Oprah Winfrey.
SPEAKER_03 (16:11):
Okay.
SPEAKER_04 (16:12):
And we'll say Barack Obama.
SPEAKER_01 (16:17):
Okay.
Maddie?
SPEAKER_00 (16:20):
Ditto.
No, I was going to say ElonMusk, for sure.
Oprah Winfrey.
But then I start kind ofthinking to get out of my own
head and my own, you know, whoI've kind of grown up as being
told who are leaders and thinkabout, like, my daughter loves
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Taylor Swift.
SPEAKER_01 (16:45):
She's a leader.
SPEAKER_00 (16:46):
And that is, I
SPEAKER_01 (16:47):
mean,
SPEAKER_00 (16:48):
everything that she does.
Everyone knows everything abouther and influence, you know,
that's what we're talking about.
Then I think of people that arein, you know, like a...
Female that's, there might notjust be this one person, but
that's in an all-man's world.
So I'm in the golf world.
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I'm one of very few females inthe golf world.
So it's like those types ofpeople that I resonate with, I
can't think of off the top of myhead at the very moment.
I'll come prepared next time.
That's okay.
SPEAKER_01 (17:20):
That's all right.
So the interesting part is, tome, everyone's list of leaders
is different.
If I sat down, you can go sitdown with anybody right now and
have lunch and just say, tell mefive leaders.
And they're going to give youleaders that they've been
impacted by, oftentimes.
Or the world's been impacted.
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If you really think about it,yeah.
But at some point along the way,those people that you named have
impacted you at some level.
They're on the tip of yourtongue, maybe not.
And you've given time, you canthink about it, but...
Everyone's list of leaders isdifferent, and that's
fascinating to me, okay?
So Nick Saban is, you know, he'san Alabama football coach, or he
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was, right?
So I read that guy's book,because I was an Alabama fan,
okay?
Let's just get that out there.
SPEAKER_00 (18:10):
Sure, sure.
SPEAKER_01 (18:12):
You know...
SPEAKER_00 (18:12):
I'm out.
SPEAKER_01 (18:15):
I'm not a diehard any football fan.
I didn't go to school anywhere,but...
Nick Saban ran a program thatwas nothing short of
fascinating.
And so when I was on myleadership journey, they were
winning, and I was in that pointin my life, and I was reading.
I read a couple of his books,listened to his stuff, and that
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dude has got it sorted out.
I took a lot of his principlesand used them through my life,
my career, and they work.
And so I'm a fan of that guy.
But why do I mention him overany other football coach?
Well, that's what's interesting.
Because why did– I mean, KirbySmart's also a leader, right?
Debo Sweeney's also a leader.
But why did I pick out NickSaban?
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Well, because of his leadershipstyle.
And he and I– I learned a lotfrom him.
But lots of football coaches aregreat leaders.
And so– but it's justfascinating to me how we
gravitate towards certain ones.
And so– Nick Saban, BillBelichick, I mean, I wrote a
list here.
Abraham Lincoln, Ronald Reagan,Franklin Roosevelt, Donald
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Trump, Martin Luther King Jr.,Winston Churchill, George
Patton, Ulysses S.
Grant.
You look, wartime leaders, ElonMusk, Jeff Bezos, Andy Stanley.
You got pastors that are dynamicleaders.
Andy Stanley's one of them.
Louis Giglio, Stephen Furtick.
Now, we won't get into all theins and outs of these guys.
We won't debate what they do ordon't do, what they believe or
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what they say.
At the end of the day...
they maintain influence with alarge body of people.
And so there's lots to goaround, but we won't debate
them.
Again, they're leaders.
And so we may not agree witheverything about the leader.
There's certain leaders outthere that have said and done
things that I'm like, ah, thatguy.
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But at the end of the day...
he still has a following, right?
So he still has influence.
And so all the leaders that wecould talk about have
commonalities.
And so I'm a student of that.
What is in common with all thesepeople?
And how do they do it?
And of course, the greatest ofthem all, Jesus Christ himself,
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Jesus.
And we'll get into that at somepoint too.
But as my interest in leadershipgrew over time, I've been
honored to lead some goodpeople.
I've got really good people.
in my career that I've workedwith, I've been led by some
great people, and I'm sure youhave too.
If you thought about it for aminute, and we'll pause for one
second, think about someone thathas led you in your life,
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someone that has mentored you.
And then you can also thinkabout people that you may be
leading yourself.
And yes, you could say yourkids, because you're leading
your kids.
And as you know, the world isleading them.
Right?
That's right.
Taylor Swift, she's aninfluencer.
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So anybody want to shareanything on that?
SPEAKER_00 (21:16):
I mean, personally, I mean, a high school teacher
was one of mine that got me intomarketing.
I mean, and that's somethingthat, like, I never would have
even thought about.
I would have just kept, youknow, C's get degrees kind of
thing, you know?
to go to school, and then when Ireally found that passion for
marketing with the kind ofgraphic design background, and
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you don't have to be the artsykid to be in marketing, so she
kind of helped me pave the wayto where I am now.
SPEAKER_01 (21:46):
Excellent.
And I'm sure you're grateful
SPEAKER_04 (21:48):
for her.
SPEAKER_00 (21:49):
Absolutely.
SPEAKER_04 (21:51):
Brown?
Actually, it's interesting.
The person that comes to my mindis a client, odd enough, that a
long time ago, He saw something.
Wanted to invest.
I didn't know what the...
I didn't know what I was doing.
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But he saw something.
And to this day, he's stillinvesting.
And I've grown.
I mean, this is eight years ago.
And I had a$50 camera and adrone that used to...
It was this big.
Things have changed.
And...
yeah to this day and I just andhis investment has encouraged me
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to invest in myself nice hisinvestment has encouraged me to
okay I can do this and thenlet's go do something else let's
go grow somewhere else and let'sfine tune these skills we're
very close and he's you knowhe's a client but he's a friend
that's good so Jeremy Mathisshout out bro that's good you're
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my boy buddy
SPEAKER_01 (23:02):
I love
SPEAKER_04 (23:03):
it.
So that's what comes to mind.
SPEAKER_01 (23:05):
That's good.
So part of the reason this showcame about was a desire to share
with others what I've learned inmy time here on the planet and
as I've battled through my storyto make an impact because, I
mean, at the end of the day,that's what I'm trying to do.
When I get to the finish line, Iwant to have made an impact.
We want to leave the worldbetter than we found it.
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So it is our duty to share andhelp others all the days of our
life.
So if, you know, I wouldchallenge you guys to let those
people know that have had animpact on your life, let them
know.
Because there's really nothingmore rewarding than that when
it's done on this side of thefinish line.
And you don't think about italong the way.
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But, like, I had a guy come tome one time and he said, hey,
man, I just want to say thankyou for...
investing in me right along theway and i was like man that's
strong that made me feelsomething that i had never felt
and so you can do that you canbless someone with that let them
know that you appreciate whatthey did for you at some point
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in your time
SPEAKER_00 (24:11):
wait i'm interested to hear who someone in your life
is
SPEAKER_01 (24:14):
it was one of our one of my guys at work um he
came to me here so i i got himin the i was in local 72 as a
pipe fitter and um essentially iwas a foreman General Foreman,
whatever.
I don't know.
I was one of the foremans.
And I hired a guy in.
And years later, he came to me.
Probably 10 years later, hecalled me one day.
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And he's like, hey, man, I justwant to say thank you for
getting me in the trade and, youknow, picking me up out of the
ditch, essentially.
And I'm not going to name anynames.
But he essentially said that Iwas in a bad place and didn't
know where I was going.
And you've seen something in me,just like Daniel said.
Somebody's seen something inhim.
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And I appreciate it.
And so it changed my life.
And I was like, man, that wasstrong.
So good stuff.
But I believe the human racewill always seek to follow good,
strong leaders.
And God will gift many with theability to lead.
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I mean, there's an abundance ofmaterial on the subject, but
it's really important.
And so in this show, we're goingto review as much of that as
possible about the leadershipjourney of many people and how
they feel that correlates withthe impact they have on the
world.
So experience is the mother ofall learning.
But, I mean, at the end of theday, we've got to remember in
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the end there will be a story, astory that only you can write.
And for each episode, we're justgoing to do these episodes.
We're going to talk about theimpact.
At the end, I want to take sometime and have a key takeaway,
right?
So right now, what is one thingthat was uncovered during our
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time together, you know, like aconclusion?
So if you had to give one keytakeaway from the however many
minutes we've been chatting, onekey takeaway, what is it?
SPEAKER_04 (26:15):
How can we make an impact?
Okay.
And...
who has made an impact on us.
How can we grow?
What's next?
Yeah, that's good.
SPEAKER_00 (26:29):
I think that I came into this thinking about people
who have impacted me, and Ihaven't really thought about the
impact that I've had on otherpeople.
And so my key takeaway is, youknow, kind of...
those people that I am impactingand just, you know, the guy that
you talked about just now, youhad no idea that you had such an
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impact on him.
And so I feel like now, I mean,honestly, day to day, it's like
I live with a purpose every day,but now I kind of have the
takeaway of like, I'm going towake up and I'm going to be the
best human being that I possiblycan be because they're so
telling who's looking at me.
SPEAKER_01 (27:08):
Correct.
That's good.
That's solid.
So, and, you know, we're goingto probably get into this at
some point because I've got itin my stuff, but, like, if
you're intentional aboutmentoring someone, there's power
in that, right?
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So a lot of times we get caughtup in ourself, and we have to, I
always tell it, deliver yourselffrom yourself because you have
to get away from yourself.
And so...
If you're intentional about, youliterally can pick someone out,
and you can probably think ofsomeone in a few minutes, you
can pick someone out that youknow needs you in some level.
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And you can give part of you tothem, right?
And so that's part of thejourney of a leader, at least
should be.
He should be, or she, they, theyshould be picking someone out
that they're following, right?
And then they should be pickingsomeone out that they're
growing, that they're investingin consistently.
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And that's pretty strong.
And then I would ask ameaningful question.
So if you had a meaningfulquestion that comes to your mind
that the answer to the questionwould modify behavior or make
change in your life, what wouldthat be?
And Daniel kind of hit it whileago.
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So kind of the key takeaway andthe meaningful question can kind
of be the same thing.
But what, you know, a meaningfulquestion, what can make change
in your life?
And the answer to it anyway.
But like you said, Daniel, yousaid, what's my impact?
UNKNOWN (28:53):
Oh, right.
SPEAKER_01 (28:53):
Yeah.
So anybody got any comments onthat?
Anything?
UNKNOWN (28:59):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (29:03):
I just want to get out there and make an impact.
You got me inspired.
You got me inspired.
That's good.
I love it.
I'm ready.
Let's go.
I love it.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (29:14):
I think that one of the things as you were talking,
I was thinking about leadershipin so many different walks of
life.
So, like, you think of a leaderas someone that's at work or,
like, your manager or your bossor the owner of a company and,
like, Obviously, we also thinkof leaders in our church that we
go to and different things likethat, but you never think of
someone that's influential.
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I never really put the twotogether.
I do, but I don't.
I think that there are so manydifferent ways that you can be a
leader and you can make animpact.
What we're doing right now,hopefully, will make an impact.
When you go home and you're withyour kids, obviously, you're
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making an impact on them, butthen In the grocery store,
you're talking to the checkoutlady and you just ask her how
her day is.
It's like there's so manydifferent walks of life that you
can make an impact that you justgot to choose to do it.
SPEAKER_01 (30:07):
Yeah, we're going to talk about that too, being
intentional about hearing andlistening to someone.
Again, the world that we live inis so crazy and political and
all the...
Anyway, we won't get into thatpart, but...
We're going to get into somefundamentals in this show where
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we talk about how you can makean impact on someone in the
grocery store.
And you don't even realize howyou can change someone's life
with one conversation.
And there's a lot of power inyour words.
(30:49):
But we're always on the run andwe're on the gun.
And so the purpose of thispodcast is to slow down Take a
minute.
Let's talk about life.
Let's talk about the impact.
Let's keep the goal the goal,right?
The goal is the goal, and we'vegot to keep it in front of us.
So in closing, man, we're prettymuch wrapping it up, but if
anyone ever has anything that Ican help with or just wants to
(31:11):
chat, feel free to reach out.
You know, at some point I'llshare my cell phone number on
this show just because it's thatimportant.
You know, somebody might needsomething.
But, you know, and I'm just aguy, a layman, per se.
But I just want to share andhelp everybody.
So I'm really looking forward tothe show, and I'm glad that
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Daniel and Maddie have decidedto come along my side.
And Daniel's...
a wizard on this podcast stuff.
He's going to be the brains.
Maddie's going to be theencourager.
SPEAKER_04 (31:47):
We'll see how it turns out.
It'll be great.
I'm looking forward to it,though.
I'm having fun right now.
Thank you, Mr.
Jeremy.
Good stuff.
SPEAKER_00 (31:58):
We're starting episode two next.
Is
SPEAKER_01 (32:06):
that it?
I think so.
Yeah.
I think so.
That's a wrap.
All right.
Yay.
SPEAKER_00 (32:15):
Thank y'all.
That was awesome.
Welcome to Impact Podcast.
My name is Jeremy Milton and I'myour host along with Daniel and
Maddie.
For the next 30 minutes to anhour or however long you choose
to tune in on this show, we willuncover or eliminate some things
about life that can help you onyour journey to make an impact
on the world that we live in.
(00:55):
We're going to broadcast anepisode from time to time when
opportunities arise.
We're going to shoot for once amonth, maybe bi-weekly, whatever
we can do to keep up.
We'll have guests join us,including leaders of all walks
of life.
Our highlight question, whatkind of impact are you making on
the world that we live in?
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And I believe the answer to thisquestion can change generations
of people.
For some, the answer may be onthe tip of their tongue.
For some, they don't know.
And for some, they may not evencare.
But I believe for most, it is apoint of inflection.
a point we all yearn tounderstand at some time in our
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life, a point where we embracethe question and seek to build
it up.
And our goal, Daniel, Maddie,and I, is to generate the desire
to understand it sooner thanlater.
I believe the pursuit to answerthis question is where we find
purpose and value in life.
And I also believe in order tomake an impact, you have to lead
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and serve people at some level.
And so this is where the studyof leadership comes into play.
So just hear us out.
For the balance of my life,whatever I have left, I intend
to explore and understand thisat its deepest level of meaning.
And the truth is, everything inthis world rises and falls on
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leadership.
That's my mantra.
Try to live by that.
The presence of leadership canchange the world along with the
absence of it.
Presence or absence.
Presence.
of leadership will drasticallyaffect everything around you and
the world that we live in.
So, we're getting started, andyou might say, well, how do you
(02:42):
measure the impact that you haveon the world?
And I'm going to put Maddie onthe spot.
So, Maddie, what do you think?
How do you measure the impactthat you have on the world?
SPEAKER_00 (02:53):
I don't know.
I would say that it's morecase-by-case, person-by-person,
to be honest with you,because...
I feel like if you've got animpact on people that are
directly next to you or whoyou're raising as human beings
or who you're leading at workwhen you're a manager or a
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friend, I think that the impactis totally different for each
person.
But I think that it's...
you know, I do think that itimpacts the world because then
it trickles down.
So then that person carries itto the next one, hopefully.
Your kids grow up doing, youknow, what you've taught them to
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do their whole lives, hopingthat you've made a positive
impact on your kids.
So I think that it's kind of abold question, but I think that
it's definitely just based onwho– is receiving your impact, I
guess.
SPEAKER_01 (03:54):
Okay.
SPEAKER_04 (03:55):
Brown, what you think?
Who is...
I love that.
Who is receiving it and how arethey receiving it?
And to me, I mean, when it comesto impact, I think of my kids.
I think of my kids first andforemost.
And like, what kind of people amI leading them to become so
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that...
And honestly, don't we all justwant our kids to be able to
contribute to society in apositive way?
Oh, yeah.
And, you know, be leaders inthemselves.
Right.
Whatever that looks like.
And I totally agree that ifimpact looks different, if I'm
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communicating and working withmy children compared to working
with my team at work and whatgoals we're trying to accomplish
there...
or anywhere, otherrelationships, church, it
doesn't matter.
But impacts are different, butit's just about what do we want
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to share and who do we want tobe and who do we want to lead
and guide.
SPEAKER_01 (05:10):
Right.
So it can be measured in manyways, right?
I mean, you could say, well,look at what I've done or look
at what I've been able to do Or,you know, I built houses, I
started businesses, I have nicecars, I've worked here and
there, I went here and there.
I mean, you could try to, Imean, lots of people can measure
it in different ways.
(05:32):
But is that it, right?
So the question is, how do youactually measure your impact?
And I don't know how manyfunerals you guys have been to,
probably a lot, been to a bunch.
And that's, to me, that's whereyou're measured, right?
Right.
Your lifespan is measured rightthere.
And what does your friend say toyour kid when you're gone,
(05:56):
right?
And the impact that you had ontheir life.
And so at the end of the day, Ibelieve your impact is measured
by the people around you, okay?
And the reason I believe that isbecause material things die and
rot.
And you're really one generationaway from everything you've ever
built brick and mortar that willdecay and go away forever.
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or be someone else's to tend tofor their life, right?
And so, you know, one day whenyou die, your family and friends
will gather and celebrate yourlife at a funeral of some kind,
and they'll talk about theimpact that you had on their
life, and some good and somebad, maybe some bad, you know?
In the end, there'll be a story,and a story that only you can
write.
And so God gave you life andpleaded with you all along the
(06:40):
way to have a relationship withHim, and yet you still choose
the life that you live.
And so you have a responsibilityto leave an impact, a positive
impact on your kids and theworld that we live in.
And so this show, the idea isthat we begin to uncover the
impact that you have or create amission inside of you to make an
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impact better in the future.
And so that's kind of...
why we're here, right?
Let's do it.
To generate some impact desire.
So, you know, we'll get started.
What is the definition of impactby, you know, the definition is,
in the noun form, it's theaction of one object coming
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forcibly into contact withanother.
And as a verb...
It is to have a strong effect.
This is all Google, by the way.
Have a strong effect on someoneor something.
And so if you Google it, that'swhat you come up with.
And then, of course, the synonymis influence.
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And so influence.
So if an impact is an influence,then we're tied to leadership.
Because leadership is influence.
Leadership is also influence.
And So when we start talkingabout impact, that's where the
leadership comes in, and that'show important it is.
So these are synonymous with oneanother.
(08:10):
So you've got impact issynonymous with leadership.
It's pretty important.
Because earlier I saideverything rises and falls on
leadership.
And so here we go.
Your measure of impact on theworld is directly related to
your level of influence.
or leadership.
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And so your ability to leadothers and follow correlates
with your impact.
And so when you talk about yourkids and you do want to leave an
impact for your kids, then it'salmost a duty to learn to lead,
right?
And because leadership isobviously a gift, but it's
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something that can be worked onand improved upon And practice
makes perfect.
So leadership is veryinteresting.
And so the podcast, we're goingto talk about leadership and
impact and how those correlate.
And we're going to bring someguests on at some point to share
with us about their leadershipstyle.
And so that's the goal of thepodcast.
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So leadership has alwaysinterested me.
It's always been fascinating tome to watch people get things
done.
In life, I always found that Ithrived on what people said
could not be done.
Have you ever had a time wheresomeone said that's going to be
very difficult or that can't bedone, and you did it, either of
(09:41):
y'all?
SPEAKER_04 (09:44):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, what comes to mindis career and where I'm at now.
as a business and also thinkback in the past and like, you
know, when I was 29, 30 and Iopened a restaurant and I didn't
(10:07):
have any money.
SPEAKER_02 (10:07):
Right.
SPEAKER_04 (10:08):
I just kind of believed it and dreamed it and
put together the right team.
And, you know, I'm not sayingthat I was sole leadership.
There was a team of us, but, butlots, I didn't believe it was
going to happen.
Yeah.
We started putting togetherbusiness plans, and I'm like,
this is fun, and I like talkingabout it, but I don't know if
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this is going to happen.
It did.
So that stands out.
Maddie?
SPEAKER_00 (10:41):
I have two different instances that just stick out in
my head.
One is kind of, I got my realestate license recently, which
was one of the hardest thingsI've ever, you know, book smart
wise, had to do.
Because it was, I mean, it's atough class.
(11:01):
You've got to study and studyand study and the tests that you
have to take to get there.
And I did it for work.
And, you know, it was kind oflike one of those things where I
just, they said that they, itwould be a great idea for me to
do it.
So I did it.
And I was kind of doing itincognito.
Like they didn't really knowthat I was doing it.
And I was very proud.
(11:24):
Everyone's like, oh, yeah, havefun trying to do that.
It's really hard if you've gotkids and a family and a life
that you want to uphold yoursocial life.
And so that kind of drove me.
They were kind of telling methat I couldn't do it, so I just
did it.
And then on the other side, moreof a personal side, my husband
(11:48):
and I, we got pregnant reallyyoung.
And it was one of those thingswhere, you know, everyone looks
at you like you're stupid and,oh, you're never going to– this
is going to be bad.
You're going to live with yourmom.
You've got to move back in withyour mom.
And we took the ball and ranwith it and now have two
(12:08):
beautiful children.
And they're 12 and 9, and we'reliving a great life.
But it was one of those thingswhere– The family, and not that
my family's never beensupportive.
They're very supportive, butit's always the, are you sure
that you guys don't need help?
Or how are y'all going to dothis?
How are you going to make itwork?
(12:29):
And with every negative comment,we just rose above it.
SPEAKER_01 (12:34):
Right, and that's what's so great, right?
So when you overcome obstaclesand when you overcome the
naysayers, we'll call them,that's when you really feel
something inside.
And that's when you really grow.
SPEAKER_03 (12:48):
And
SPEAKER_01 (12:49):
so, you know, the moment someone said it's hard or
could not be done, I was like,sign me up, right?
Because that's where I want tobe.
And that's where you do yourmost growing.
So I'm sure that my mother andfather could attest to this.
(13:12):
But when I was young, I had thedesire to be in charge.
Imagine that.
And I guess that hasn't changed.
But I wanted to be thecourageous one, okay?
And courage is something thatought to be sought today because
there's so many people that arenot courageous.
And so part of being a leader isyou must be courageous.
(13:34):
I wanted to be the one thatjumped in and out, figured it
out.
And as I've gotten older, Irealize more and more every day
how much I don't know and that Ineed to learn, right?
And in learning that, I realizedthat I needed to study and learn
a lot.
And Daniel and I talked beforethe podcast about learning and
how important learning is.
And, you know, we ought toalways be in a state of
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learning.
And so it's funny.
I told Daniel earlier, when mywife and I got married in 2011–
I began a study of leadershipbecause I wasn't a good leader,
okay?
And my mentor once told me, hesaid, you know, in order to
lead, you've got to be able tofollow.
(14:18):
And I didn't really understandthat because I was thinking,
well, you want me to be incharge or do you want me to
follow?
I didn't really understand untillater when I figured it out that
you need to be able to submitand follow someone in order to
lead at any given time.
And so anyway, I got married in2011 to my wife and began a
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journey to study leadershipbecause I needed it.
I bought my first book.
It was a John Maxwell book.
I bought it on my honeymoon.
So literally, we went to abookstore and I bought a book
and I started reading.
And I don't read enough now, butI try to read as much as I can.
I'm intentional about it.
And since then, I've read andlistened to lots of teaching on
(15:05):
the subject.
I've sought out some mentors atevery level along the way.
I can never list them all here.
Lots of people have credit forwhat I've been able to do.
You'll hear about some of thatin this show.
But I've observed lots ofleaders make mistakes, and some
do well, right?
So there's good leaders and badones, but nonetheless, they're
(15:26):
leaders.
So they have influence, andtherefore, they have an impact.
And so...
Um, good and bad, uh, could berelative based on person's
values and principles, but, um,so, all right, let me ask you,
Daniel, give me, like, just tellme five leaders that you know
(15:46):
that you can think of.
Five.
SPEAKER_04 (15:48):
Just in general or a bit
SPEAKER_01 (15:49):
personal?
Well, five leaders that, thatyou know have had a big impact
on the earth, on the, on theworld, right?
So just, who comes to mind?
Well, first comes to
SPEAKER_04 (15:58):
mind Bill Gates, Elon Musk, We'll say Donald
Trump.
Okay.
We'll say Oprah Winfrey.
SPEAKER_03 (16:11):
Okay.
SPEAKER_04 (16:12):
And we'll say Barack Obama.
SPEAKER_01 (16:17):
Okay.
Maddie?
SPEAKER_00 (16:20):
Ditto.
No, I was going to say ElonMusk, for sure.
Oprah Winfrey.
But then I start kind ofthinking to get out of my own
head and my own, you know, whoI've kind of grown up as being
told who are leaders and thinkabout, like, my daughter loves
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Taylor Swift.
SPEAKER_01 (16:45):
She's a leader.
SPEAKER_00 (16:46):
And that is, I
SPEAKER_01 (16:47):
mean,
SPEAKER_00 (16:48):
everything that she does.
Everyone knows everything abouther and influence, you know,
that's what we're talking about.
Then I think of people that arein, you know, like a...
Female that's, there might notjust be this one person, but
that's in an all-man's world.
So I'm in the golf world.
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I'm one of very few females inthe golf world.
So it's like those types ofpeople that I resonate with, I
can't think of off the top of myhead at the very moment.
I'll come prepared next time.
That's okay.
SPEAKER_01 (17:20):
That's all right.
So the interesting part is, tome, everyone's list of leaders
is different.
If I sat down, you can go sitdown with anybody right now and
have lunch and just say, tell mefive leaders.
And they're going to give youleaders that they've been
impacted by, oftentimes.
Or the world's been impacted.
(17:41):
If you really think about it,yeah.
But at some point along the way,those people that you named have
impacted you at some level.
They're on the tip of yourtongue, maybe not.
And you've given time, you canthink about it, but...
Everyone's list of leaders isdifferent, and that's
fascinating to me, okay?
So Nick Saban is, you know, he'san Alabama football coach, or he
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was, right?
So I read that guy's book,because I was an Alabama fan,
okay?
Let's just get that out there.
SPEAKER_00 (18:10):
Sure, sure.
SPEAKER_01 (18:12):
You know...
SPEAKER_00 (18:12):
I'm out.
SPEAKER_01 (18:15):
I'm not a diehard any football fan.
I didn't go to school anywhere,but...
Nick Saban ran a program thatwas nothing short of
fascinating.
And so when I was on myleadership journey, they were
winning, and I was in that pointin my life, and I was reading.
I read a couple of his books,listened to his stuff, and that
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dude has got it sorted out.
I took a lot of his principlesand used them through my life,
my career, and they work.
And so I'm a fan of that guy.
But why do I mention him overany other football coach?
Well, that's what's interesting.
Because why did– I mean, KirbySmart's also a leader, right?
Debo Sweeney's also a leader.
But why did I pick out NickSaban?
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Well, because of his leadershipstyle.
And he and I– I learned a lotfrom him.
But lots of football coaches aregreat leaders.
And so– but it's justfascinating to me how we
gravitate towards certain ones.
And so– Nick Saban, BillBelichick, I mean, I wrote a
list here.
Abraham Lincoln, Ronald Reagan,Franklin Roosevelt, Donald
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Trump, Martin Luther King Jr.,Winston Churchill, George
Patton, Ulysses S.
Grant.
You look, wartime leaders, ElonMusk, Jeff Bezos, Andy Stanley.
You got pastors that are dynamicleaders.
Andy Stanley's one of them.
Louis Giglio, Stephen Furtick.
Now, we won't get into all theins and outs of these guys.
We won't debate what they do ordon't do, what they believe or
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what they say.
At the end of the day...
they maintain influence with alarge body of people.
And so there's lots to goaround, but we won't debate
them.
Again, they're leaders.
And so we may not agree witheverything about the leader.
There's certain leaders outthere that have said and done
things that I'm like, ah, thatguy.
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But at the end of the day...
he still has a following, right?
So he still has influence.
And so all the leaders that wecould talk about have
commonalities.
And so I'm a student of that.
What is in common with all thesepeople?
And how do they do it?
And of course, the greatest ofthem all, Jesus Christ himself,
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Jesus.
And we'll get into that at somepoint too.
But as my interest in leadershipgrew over time, I've been
honored to lead some goodpeople.
I've got really good people.
in my career that I've workedwith, I've been led by some
great people, and I'm sure youhave too.
If you thought about it for aminute, and we'll pause for one
second, think about someone thathas led you in your life,
(20:47):
someone that has mentored you.
And then you can also thinkabout people that you may be
leading yourself.
And yes, you could say yourkids, because you're leading
your kids.
And as you know, the world isleading them.
Right?
That's right.
Taylor Swift, she's aninfluencer.
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So anybody want to shareanything on that?
SPEAKER_00 (21:16):
I mean, personally, I mean, a high school teacher
was one of mine that got me intomarketing.
I mean, and that's somethingthat, like, I never would have
even thought about.
I would have just kept, youknow, C's get degrees kind of
thing, you know?
to go to school, and then when Ireally found that passion for
marketing with the kind ofgraphic design background, and
(21:39):
you don't have to be the artsykid to be in marketing, so she
kind of helped me pave the wayto where I am now.
SPEAKER_01 (21:46):
Excellent.
And I'm sure you're grateful
SPEAKER_04 (21:48):
for her.
SPEAKER_00 (21:49):
Absolutely.
SPEAKER_04 (21:51):
Brown?
Actually, it's interesting.
The person that comes to my mindis a client, odd enough, that a
long time ago, He saw something.
Wanted to invest.
I didn't know what the...
I didn't know what I was doing.
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But he saw something.
And to this day, he's stillinvesting.
And I've grown.
I mean, this is eight years ago.
And I had a$50 camera and adrone that used to...
It was this big.
Things have changed.
And...
yeah to this day and I just andhis investment has encouraged me
(22:38):
to invest in myself nice hisinvestment has encouraged me to
okay I can do this and thenlet's go do something else let's
go grow somewhere else and let'sfine tune these skills we're
very close and he's you knowhe's a client but he's a friend
that's good so Jeremy Mathisshout out bro that's good you're
(23:01):
my boy buddy
SPEAKER_01 (23:02):
I love
SPEAKER_04 (23:03):
it.
So that's what comes to mind.
SPEAKER_01 (23:05):
That's good.
So part of the reason this showcame about was a desire to share
with others what I've learned inmy time here on the planet and
as I've battled through my storyto make an impact because, I
mean, at the end of the day,that's what I'm trying to do.
When I get to the finish line, Iwant to have made an impact.
We want to leave the worldbetter than we found it.
(23:26):
So it is our duty to share andhelp others all the days of our
life.
So if, you know, I wouldchallenge you guys to let those
people know that have had animpact on your life, let them
know.
Because there's really nothingmore rewarding than that when
it's done on this side of thefinish line.
And you don't think about italong the way.
(23:50):
But, like, I had a guy come tome one time and he said, hey,
man, I just want to say thankyou for...
investing in me right along theway and i was like man that's
strong that made me feelsomething that i had never felt
and so you can do that you canbless someone with that let them
know that you appreciate whatthey did for you at some point
(24:10):
in your time
SPEAKER_00 (24:11):
wait i'm interested to hear who someone in your life
is
SPEAKER_01 (24:14):
it was one of our one of my guys at work um he
came to me here so i i got himin the i was in local 72 as a
pipe fitter and um essentially iwas a foreman General Foreman,
whatever.
I don't know.
I was one of the foremans.
And I hired a guy in.
And years later, he came to me.
Probably 10 years later, hecalled me one day.
(24:35):
And he's like, hey, man, I justwant to say thank you for
getting me in the trade and, youknow, picking me up out of the
ditch, essentially.
And I'm not going to name anynames.
But he essentially said that Iwas in a bad place and didn't
know where I was going.
And you've seen something in me,just like Daniel said.
Somebody's seen something inhim.
(24:55):
And I appreciate it.
And so it changed my life.
And I was like, man, that wasstrong.
So good stuff.
But I believe the human racewill always seek to follow good,
strong leaders.
And God will gift many with theability to lead.
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I mean, there's an abundance ofmaterial on the subject, but
it's really important.
And so in this show, we're goingto review as much of that as
possible about the leadershipjourney of many people and how
they feel that correlates withthe impact they have on the
world.
So experience is the mother ofall learning.
But, I mean, at the end of theday, we've got to remember in
(25:40):
the end there will be a story, astory that only you can write.
And for each episode, we're justgoing to do these episodes.
We're going to talk about theimpact.
At the end, I want to take sometime and have a key takeaway,
right?
So right now, what is one thingthat was uncovered during our
(26:01):
time together, you know, like aconclusion?
So if you had to give one keytakeaway from the however many
minutes we've been chatting, onekey takeaway, what is it?
SPEAKER_04 (26:15):
How can we make an impact?
Okay.
And...
who has made an impact on us.
How can we grow?
What's next?
Yeah, that's good.
SPEAKER_00 (26:29):
I think that I came into this thinking about people
who have impacted me, and Ihaven't really thought about the
impact that I've had on otherpeople.
And so my key takeaway is, youknow, kind of...
those people that I am impactingand just, you know, the guy that
you talked about just now, youhad no idea that you had such an
(26:53):
impact on him.
And so I feel like now, I mean,honestly, day to day, it's like
I live with a purpose every day,but now I kind of have the
takeaway of like, I'm going towake up and I'm going to be the
best human being that I possiblycan be because they're so
telling who's looking at me.
SPEAKER_01 (27:08):
Correct.
That's good.
That's solid.
So, and, you know, we're goingto probably get into this at
some point because I've got itin my stuff, but, like, if
you're intentional aboutmentoring someone, there's power
in that, right?
(27:28):
So a lot of times we get caughtup in ourself, and we have to, I
always tell it, deliver yourselffrom yourself because you have
to get away from yourself.
And so...
If you're intentional about, youliterally can pick someone out,
and you can probably think ofsomeone in a few minutes, you
can pick someone out that youknow needs you in some level.
(27:51):
And you can give part of you tothem, right?
And so that's part of thejourney of a leader, at least
should be.
He should be, or she, they, theyshould be picking someone out
that they're following, right?
And then they should be pickingsomeone out that they're
growing, that they're investingin consistently.
(28:14):
And that's pretty strong.
And then I would ask ameaningful question.
So if you had a meaningfulquestion that comes to your mind
that the answer to the questionwould modify behavior or make
change in your life, what wouldthat be?
And Daniel kind of hit it whileago.
(28:34):
So kind of the key takeaway andthe meaningful question can kind
of be the same thing.
But what, you know, a meaningfulquestion, what can make change
in your life?
And the answer to it anyway.
But like you said, Daniel, yousaid, what's my impact?
UNKNOWN (28:53):
Oh, right.
SPEAKER_01 (28:53):
Yeah.
So anybody got any comments onthat?
Anything?
UNKNOWN (28:59):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (29:03):
I just want to get out there and make an impact.
You got me inspired.
You got me inspired.
That's good.
I love it.
I'm ready.
Let's go.
I love it.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (29:14):
I think that one of the things as you were talking,
I was thinking about leadershipin so many different walks of
life.
So, like, you think of a leaderas someone that's at work or,
like, your manager or your bossor the owner of a company and,
like, Obviously, we also thinkof leaders in our church that we
go to and different things likethat, but you never think of
someone that's influential.
(29:34):
I never really put the twotogether.
I do, but I don't.
I think that there are so manydifferent ways that you can be a
leader and you can make animpact.
What we're doing right now,hopefully, will make an impact.
When you go home and you're withyour kids, obviously, you're
(29:54):
making an impact on them, butthen In the grocery store,
you're talking to the checkoutlady and you just ask her how
her day is.
It's like there's so manydifferent walks of life that you
can make an impact that you justgot to choose to do it.
SPEAKER_01 (30:07):
Yeah, we're going to talk about that too, being
intentional about hearing andlistening to someone.
Again, the world that we live inis so crazy and political and
all the...
Anyway, we won't get into thatpart, but...
We're going to get into somefundamentals in this show where
(30:29):
we talk about how you can makean impact on someone in the
grocery store.
And you don't even realize howyou can change someone's life
with one conversation.
And there's a lot of power inyour words.
(30:49):
But we're always on the run andwe're on the gun.
And so the purpose of thispodcast is to slow down Take a
minute.
Let's talk about life.
Let's talk about the impact.
Let's keep the goal the goal,right?
The goal is the goal, and we'vegot to keep it in front of us.
So in closing, man, we're prettymuch wrapping it up, but if
anyone ever has anything that Ican help with or just wants to
(31:11):
chat, feel free to reach out.
You know, at some point I'llshare my cell phone number on
this show just because it's thatimportant.
You know, somebody might needsomething.
But, you know, and I'm just aguy, a layman, per se.
But I just want to share andhelp everybody.
So I'm really looking forward tothe show, and I'm glad that
(31:34):
Daniel and Maddie have decidedto come along my side.
And Daniel's...
a wizard on this podcast stuff.
He's going to be the brains.
Maddie's going to be theencourager.
SPEAKER_04 (31:47):
We'll see how it turns out.
It'll be great.
I'm looking forward to it,though.
I'm having fun right now.
Thank you, Mr.
Jeremy.
Good stuff.
SPEAKER_00 (31:58):
We're starting episode two next.
Is
SPEAKER_01 (32:06):
that it?
I think so.
Yeah.
I think so.
That's a wrap.
All right.
Yay.
SPEAKER_00 (32:15):
Thank y'all.
That was awesome.
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