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August 5, 2025 53 mins

Ep.2 - How to Live a Life of Service to Others: Transform Your Path to Joy and Fulfillment


Have you ever felt called to serve others but wondered what that truly means? In this transformative episode, we explore the profound invitation that exists within each of us—to choose between living from love or from fear. Discover how choosing service to others can transform your life from fear to love, bringing profound joy and fulfillment to your life.

Episode Description

Drawing from our combined 24+ years of multidimensional service work, we share personal stories of awakening to service, including Michael's journey to becoming of service to others, plus being focused on positive impact, and Jamie's powerful encounter with a "task master guide" that taught her the importance of discernment in spiritual work.

We dive deep into what service to others really means—not as a concept, but as a living vibration that already exists within you. You'll discover why serving others isn't primarily about doing good deeds (though those naturally follow), but about tuning into a frequency of unconditional love that transforms how you show up in every moment. We share practical exercises for connecting with this vibration, including a powerful remembering technique that helps you access the pure energy of service that exists before any action.

Whether you're just beginning to explore spiritual sovereignty or you're a seasoned practitioner looking to deepen your service, this episode offers both foundational wisdom and advanced insights. We explore the difference between service to others versus service to self, why this choice matters for your soul's evolution, and how professionals in healing, coaching, and intuitive work can use this principle as a powerful discernment tool. Most importantly, you'll learn how to make service to others a practical, moment-by-moment choice that brings immense joy, fulfillment, and meaning to your life while contributing to the planetary shift towards love.

Main Topics Covered

[00:00:30] The Invitation to Choose Love Over Fear: Exploring the fundamental choice that emerges on the awakening path

[00:03:00] Michael's Journey: From Corporate to Service: How leaving traditional business opened the door to soul-aligned service

[00:11:00] Jamie's Story: The Task Master Guide: Learning discernment through challenging spiritual experiences

[00:17:30] Service to Others vs. Service to Self: Understanding the two paths of soul evolution

[00:25:00] It's About Vibration, Not Just Action: Why serving others starts with energy, not deeds

[00:33:00] Practical Exercise: Tuning Into Service: A powerful technique to connect with your service vibration

[00:41:00] The Power of Choice in Every Moment: Making service a moment-by-moment practice

[00:46:00] For Professionals: Service as Discernment: How service orientation creates clarity in healing work

Noteworthy Quotes

"Service to others is a vibration of unconditional love that expands outward." - This fundamental understanding shifts service from obligation to natural expression.

"When you tune into that vibration of service, it takes you to a different place that's not of this earth." - Michael shares how connecting with service transcends everyday preoccupations.

"Your commitment to service to others acts as a filter for what you receive and share." - Jamie explains how choosing service creates powerful discernment in professional practice.


Key Takeaways


  • Service to others is a vibration of unconditional love that expands outward
  • Serving others starts with energy and vibration, not just actions or deeds
  • You can make service a practical, moment-by-moment choice in daily life
  • Service orientation creates powerful discernment for...
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Episode Transcript

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(00:00):
Welcome to the Inner Truth Seekerspodcasts, where we help you discover
and embody your own inner truth, notjust as a concept, but as a way of life.
We are your hosts.
I'm Jamie.
And I'm Michael.
And in today's episode, we dive rightinto that topic of being, of service to
others, what it actually means, how youcan connect to the vibration of being of
service to others, how it might transformyour life, why it might be important,

(00:23):
and why you might choose to have thatas a guiding principle in your life.
Let's dive in.
So on the path that somewe might call awakening or.
Becoming more aware of one'smultidi dimensionality or
expanding someone's consciousness.

(00:44):
Whatever words or phrasewe use to describe that.
Basically when, when we start becomingaware of there's more than the physical
realm, there's something within,there's a, a bigger consciousness there
that's beyond the physical, and westart deciding to look towards that or
discover it or have more familiaritywith it or spend more time there.

(01:06):
And you could call thatmeditation or contemplation or.
Maybe it's prayer, maybe it's just actsof service, you know, in whatever way
someone kind of stumbles upon that or,or begins to embody it in their life.
It seems that when someone steps intothat or makes that transition, it seems

(01:30):
that there is a invitation that exists.
And what I, when I say this and,and I know you know what I'm talking
about, Michael, but the invitationthere that that exists, it's not
something that's pushing itself on us.
It's something that's there to berecognized or made, made aware of.

(01:53):
It seems to be that the invitationis to choose, and the choice seems
to be, are you gonna lead your lifeand live your life from a place
of love or from a place of fear?
And you and I know that invitationas an opportunity to polarize

(02:15):
is what we might call it.
And I say that I'm just referencingthe raw material or the law of one,
which is a five book channeled series.
And there's so many ways that wecould describe this with words, but
you and I know this as polarizingin service to others or polarizing
in service to self, which might be.
Polarizing in service to love orpolarizing in service to fear.

(02:36):
I am just curious, when did youfirst stumble upon this invitation?
And how did it resonate or not with you?
How did it inform youat that point in time?
Yeah, great intro and great,uh, yeah, great question.

(02:56):
Firstly, I wanna clarify that thelaw of one is different to the
law of onesies, which is somethingthat's completely different.
So don't get the, there's no suchthing as the love onesies guys.
I'm sure someone out there who's wearing aonesie right now might say otherwise, but.
To answer the question seriously.
Um, yeah, it was, it was forme, it was, it was clear.

(03:19):
And I say the first part and the firstpoint for me, I would say professionally
for me was when I left the company thatI was working for and I began my own
company, which was a renewable energyrecruitment company, um, called Rebalance,
which was nearly a decade ago now.

(03:40):
And the emphasis of that wasrebalancing the society, the um, the
economy and like the people together.
And it was the first time for me as Ikind of went through to being in my own
sphere, if you will, of my own soul'scalling, that I was able to change

(04:00):
the way that I did business and I wasable to transform the way that I was
showing up in work to have more of a.
I would say positive impact in theworld around me, and that, that
started with like the employeesthat were working with me.
Then we would give a certain amountof the money that we would make
to, uh, charities to help withclimate change or things like that.

(04:21):
And we ba basically built thebusiness upon that essence.
But for me, I was still kind of inthe depths of trauma, you know, very
functioning, but still very kind of, um.
Yeah, through the effects of trauma,depression, anxiety, self-medicating,
alcohol and things like that.
It wasn't until I had my spiritualawakening, what you would call that,

(04:46):
it was for me that I recognized thatwhat was transforming in the way that
I was doing my business and work thenwas the beginning of me recognizing that
call to be more of service to others.
And it wasn't long after that.
That because I was in that sphere, inthat realm of being able to work for
myself and create my own brand and beable to work in that way, that it was

(05:11):
like putting fertilizer on all theaspects of my soul that were ready to
step into service that I didn't reallyknow, and it was that transitioning
from being more, I would say.
Yeah, self-centered or self-motivatedor like personal goals started to
become more of like soul alignedgoals or soul aligned transformation.

(05:37):
That's kind of when I went throughmy kind of spiritual awakening,
traveled around the world.
Um.
Came here, met you, and through all ofthis type of work that, you know, when
I subsequently left that business anddecided to take upon a career or life
path, or dedicate my life to helpingpeople transform through their own

(05:58):
personal trauma and have their ownawakening to their own true selves, that's
just been something that's more and more.
I've been at the forefront and aguiding principle of how does this
choice and this alignment line upwith my soul's choice and polarization
to be of service to others.
Now, of course, there's so manydifferent ways to be of service

(06:20):
to others, and I'm sure we'll diveinto that into into today's episode.
But for me, really like that point, Iwould say, as you asked that question was.
When I first started working for myself,and I think that was more because
the type of organization and kind ofindustries that I was kind of working in,
in terms of recruitment, like being ofservice to others was not the, I would

(06:45):
say forefront or guiding principle.
It was a byproduct of creating wealth forthe individual, um, or for the business.
So once I kind of moved out of thatsphere of someone else's sphere.
It really just allowed that blossomingof that soul awareness of my own self
to be able to take those steps and thenthrough the process of healing trauma,

(07:11):
healing from abuse, uh, also learning.
I would say in spiritual traditionsthat also don't necessarily align with
being of service to others that are moreassociated with power or dynamics and
things like this that aren't actuallypurified in that service to others.
I've been able to have, I would say, a.

(07:31):
Clear reflections of what focusing intoservice to others means, um, what it
doesn't mean, and then how to navigateand transform any aspects of the being
that may be still stuck in trauma orstill stuck in separation or still
kind of yes, stuck in the past andpast dynamics, and then transform that.

(07:52):
Two, the vibration of service to others,which has always been here, which
was always there, was just waiting tobe recognized with conscious choice.
Because you know, if you look throughand I look through life, and I'm sure
that many people can, who are listening,maybe have the same experiences,
there are all these other aspects.

(08:14):
When you can look back to childhood,like I remember, I remember this
image always sticks to me is like.
Found a 10 pound note, which is a,a UK 10 pounds, which will probably
like $14, something like that.
13, $14.
I remember I was working in my nan'sshop, like as a kid, just like helping
her out and like she was there, she waslooking after me and I was help helping

(08:35):
out and I, I loved it and enjoyed it.
I remember I found 10 poundson the street and like the.
Reaction for me as like that innocentchild was that I went running around the
street saying someone's lost 10 pounds.
And like my nan and the, it was like,get in the shop, someone's just gonna
like, you know, so innocent to thefact that someone didn't even occur

(08:57):
to me that someone could be likeself-serving or service to self and it
would've not had, wouldn't have lostthat 10 pounds and that they would've.
You know, maybe manipulated ortaken it from a small child.
It wasn't on my radar that that existed.
So the reason I bring thatup is that I think that.
When we incarnate on the planet,if we have that kind of sole

(09:21):
inclination to be of service on theplanet, yeah, it's already there.
It's present, like we are born with it.
So like innocent, so powerful, sopotent that we, you know, we see
and we recognize each other as one.
Like experientially feel thatinterconnectedness before the kind
of veil of illusion and amnesiakind of gets thicker and heavier.

(09:45):
And we kind of go through theinevitable experiences of being a, a,
a human on earth and the associatedtraumas and experiences that make,
make us feel separate, you know, andwe kind of bring our defenses up.
So, you know, there's just kindof two examples of like in my own
life where I can, I can look backand go, oh, that was something that
was just, didn't even think about.

(10:06):
I could have that 10 pounds.
And then also kind of, you know,gone through more of the trauma and
then the kind of stepping back into,you know, my own truth through the
first kind of business that I, I did.
Uh, and then, you know, that, thatkind of arc and trajectory which
has brought us here to today at,at sitting in a true seekers.

(10:27):
Nice.
I didn't know some ofthose things about you.
Thanks for telling me.
There we go.
Yeah.
You know, I think, I think about whenyou're saying that it, it makes me
think of, I think it was about 2012,somewhere between 2010 and 2012.
I was just starting to have like anactual awareness of my intuitive.

(10:48):
Abilities and them being onlineand, and my interconnectedness with,
with things and receiving intuitiveguidance for myself and others.
And at that time, you know, I, I thinkyou and I are a lot alike with this,
and any of you listening might be too.
Uh, you know, I, if someone gives meillicit things to do, I can do 'em.

(11:11):
I'm, I don't hesitate.
I'm like, what?
There's a checklist.
Okay, fine.
Let's get that checklist, youknow, marked off and be done
with it and onto the next task.
So I'm definitely a doer and, andat that time I was starting to
have awareness between 2010, 2012.
In my own prayer, I was starting to haveawareness that I was receiving guidance.

(11:34):
I was starting to journal andtake notes and actually take it
seriously and not sort of avoid itor get weird about it or bypass it.
I was like, this is happening.
I'm engaging it.
And when I would take notes and stuff,there was this one, I will call it
guide at the time, that was justconstantly giving me things to do.
You need to go do this, you shouldgo do this, you should go do this,

(11:56):
and then don't forget to do this.
And then also it wouldbe great if you did this.
And there I am making my task list.
Right.
And, uh.
Literally, I think it was about a week ortwo of this with, with this, I'm gonna say
quotes, quote, quote guide, and uh, I kindof had to pause and be like, this guide

(12:17):
is just gonna have me busy all the time.
And it was like, uh, I'm exhausted andthere's so much more to do and something
in me just new something's off here.
I think I'm allowing consciouslyor unconsciously something
to sort of boss me around.

(12:38):
And I recognized around that sametime for me, uh, you know, it was
a gift, a synchronous gift at themoment, but somehow the law of one
or the raw material came my way.
It's a five book series ofchanneled content from a group.
Consciousness, uh, known as oridentifying itself as raw and

(13:00):
Carlo Ruckert is the channel thatthe communication came through and
was transcribed into these books.
It matters not if anyone listening to thisfeels resonant with those books or not.
Uh, that, that matters not why I ambringing this up is because around
that same time I crossed path.

(13:20):
Cross paths with those books.
And I read in there about polarizationand service to self and service to others.
And for me in that moment, it was asynchronous key that helped me recognize
that was the issue I was having withwhat I call now lovingly, the task master
guide who was just basically bossingme around and I was like, I'm happy to

(13:42):
do it 'cause I'm so action oriented.
But anyway, I recognized, oh.
I am missing something here.
I'm not polarizing or, uh, tuning orrefining to what the book would say
is polarization and service to others.
But for me, it just means in service tolove or embodying love or being aligned

(14:05):
with love or resonating from that placeof love that comes from with them.
And so that was a really big definingmoment for me in terms of my, my work.
I hadn't yet started doingmy intuitive mediumship work.
Publicly or professionally I wasstill practicing with on my own.
And also, uh, working withfriends to practice bringing

(14:28):
through guidance for them.
I wanted to really feel confident andfeel like I could trust it before I
actually, uh, did it professionally.
And, um, that was a really definingmoment for me, that it helped me
recognize I have to actually choose.
What vibration or frequency I'm gonnabe connecting and, and, you know,

(14:49):
connecting with guidance and alsocommunicating guidance and also how
I'm gonna be responding or reactingto guidance and integrating it or not.
And I recognized that I, it was imperativethat I do that from a place of love,
that I couldn't go into that sort ofhalfheartedly and not being discerning.
And so.
After that moment, there were nomore task master spirits or guides or

(15:14):
anything, you know, but I, I think anyonethat steps into this work, um, as an
intuitive or a medium or a channel, um,there's always like a learning curve to
it in the beginning and, and differentlessons that we get along the way.
Um, but uh, that's when I firststumbled onto it and, and it just
was, was perfect for the time.

(15:35):
Yeah, that's, that's great.
I love, I love that how you've kindof went through that experience
of, you know, opening up and thennot understanding that process.
And it's almost like if you didn't havethat experience of the task master,
you wouldn't understand the importanceof the polarizing in service to others
if you just kind of stumbled onto thatwithout the experiential experience

(15:58):
of like the opposite of polarizing inservice to others through connecting.
You wouldn't have that experientiallesson, would you agree?
Yeah, yeah.
It's true.
You know, and, and I think that justhighlights that sometimes we think
we have to do this thing perfect.
And even, um, you know, again, we cancall, one of the phrases that you and
I use even within our true seekers issomeone who's open, ready, willing,

(16:23):
or inspired to positively contributeto the planetary shift towards love.
That's a way of saying that too.
And I think that.
I think that that in itself, it helps,it, it becomes a guiding principle.
It's not something we get perfect.
We do not get it perfect.
We, we may strive for it, we mayinspire to be that or demonstrate that

(16:47):
in our life and in our work, uh, butalso there's learning along the way.
So like with the task master guide,that was a lot of learning that I got
really quick and recognized really fast.
I don't wanna do this again.
How do I do this differently?
And fortunately, that was goingon in my own personal process and

(17:09):
practice and not something that Iwas doing with or for other people.
You know, I hadn't started doing that yet.
Still refining.
So yeah, we're, we have a lot ofopportunities to learn and grow and
sometimes by making, making mistakes.
Great.
And then, you know, with the lawof one, you know, the channel
book series, which is, is great.

(17:31):
And uh, as when I met you and youintroduced me to those books and
understood more of the, the kind ofprinciples of the polarizing in service
to others, it made more sense andhas become a guiding principle, you
know, in our professional work andour life and our marriage, our work.
Um, and that's been so transformative.
But I think just to really,for anyone who's not read

(17:51):
those books to kind of just.
To summarize what polarizing in serviceto others is versus service itself.
Um, I wanna just give it a preface andthen I want you to kind of take, take
us, uh, deeper with it in terms of.
Being of service to others.
It's not something that's uniqueto the raw law of one channel.

(18:15):
Books.
You can see this throughout life,throughout spiritual traditions like Jesus
Buddha or different traditions which talkabout, um, being of service to others
or, or sharing love or being of service.
Or you can just look at so many differentexperiences throughout the earth.

(18:36):
And the experience that we are aware of.
And then the oppositeof that, we also have.
So many examples of this in our,our, our life experience or history
of humanity, which is the opposite,which is being of service to self,
uh, which is something that has theirown individuation as the priority.

(18:58):
You could describe that assomething that like takes that
manipulates, that's something that.
Um, wants to suck in all the energyfrom around it for its own gain.
And then you might say that service toothers is something that's expansive.
It's unconditionally loving,it's open, it wants to give.
Um, what would you kinda add to that,firstly, that might help differentiate

(19:23):
what the difference between serviceto others and service to self is.
And then I'm feeling like I may havesome stuff that might just come up
from what you've, you've shared.
Yeah, great question.
I think just you said some thingsthat, that just struck, um,
inspiration in me that it probablyis just gonna be an expansion on

(19:43):
what you've just said, but you know.
Somewhere Jesus said something along thelines of, uh, you know, treating other
people as you desire to be treated.
And, and to me that captures theessence of being in service to love.
And here's the thing, I, and I, I justalways like to say this because, uh.

(20:05):
Love.
We have so many ideas about whatlove is, and I think most often,
more often than not, we thinkof love as like romantic love.
Oh my, my partner, myromantic partner for life.
And we have these romanticizedideas about what love is.
But love is many things.
And it's things that we can't even fathom.

(20:25):
And so being, even if I say, okay, um,I am recognizing there's an opportunity
here to live my life or make decisionsor, or behave and engage my, engage in
my relationships, in service to love.
And I desire that There'ssomething interesting that happens.

(20:46):
I dunno about you, Michael, or anyone elselistening that has experience with this.
Um, something interestingthat happens inside you.
You just kind of can feel thatthat feels true for you, even
if you don't know what it means.
Even, even if you can't, likeI still to this day, I can.
I can't tell you what love actually is.
I can glimpse it and I can sometimesget close to describing it.

(21:10):
It's a, it's a Britishmovie around Christmas time.
Love actually.
Yeah,
it's love actually.
Okay.
That's hilarious.
The, oh, I haven't seenthat movie in a while.
So yeah, basically likebeing in service to love.

(21:31):
Like even as I'm talkingabout it, I can feel it.
I'm just like, yeah, that, andif you were like, what is that?
I'm like, I'm not, I'm not fully sure.
Can, can you tell me?
But yeah, I wanna be in service of love.
The alternate or thecontrast to that is, um.
Being in service to fear.

(21:51):
And here's the thing, I say thatbeing in service to fear, I'm like,
that's not anything that we judge.
You know, fear is somethingthat is quite often experienced,
uh, in the human incarnation.
It's common.
It's, you know, feeling separatenessor experiencing the heavy veil or
illusion of separateness from God.

(22:12):
To the human aspect can be very fearful.
Can be terrifying quite honestly.
And so when we say, uh, maybe theopposite or the alternate or the
contrast of being in service tolove is being in service to fear.
That's not meant to say we'renot to experience fear or avoid
fear or pretend I'm not afraid.

(22:33):
I don't know what you're talking about.
It's like, yeah, I, I experienced fearquite a bit, you know, quite honestly.
So.
It's more about recognizingthat my, and, and you know this,
we just start somewhere easy.
Listen, we don't need to overcomplicateit, but just recognizing that my

(22:56):
thoughts, the thoughts that I have, theego mind, the thought stream that goes
on, you know, however it does that mythoughts are either aligned with fear.
Or contraction or absorption or,um, scarcity or conditionality or my
thoughts are aligned with love expansion.

(23:19):
Um,
unconditionality, you know, love is like,I don't need anything from you here.
Let me give you everythingand I don't need anything.
Fear is, I don't know ifI should give this to you.
Well, if I give it to you, then I hopethat I'm gonna get this in return.
So we just start.
We can work with that or start recognizingthat, that everything we're doing

(23:43):
is falling into one of two things.
It's not like there aren't gray areas tothis, and it's also neither good nor bad.
It's just a recognition that, um, I'meither acting or thinking or behaving
in ways that are aligned with love.
I can do that consciouslyor unconsciously.
There's pretty, there's plenty oftimes that I unconsciously align
with love and I, I'm like, oh,that was nice that I enjoyed that.

(24:07):
Okay.
But then we can also consciously andunconsciously behave or think or talk
or engage or, um, perform in our lives.
In ways that are aligned with fear.
And so even that, you know, beingin service to love or being in
service to fear, it's just anopportunity to recognize, even have

(24:27):
something to reflect back to us orrecognize when we're doing it or not.
But I can tell you this, andI talk about this a lot in my
intuitive development course.
This comes through a lot fromSpirit, that if we're not doing one
or the other, we're fence writing.
You know, and when we ridethe fence we're, you know,

(24:49):
first of all, that's tiring.
Second of all, it's like, it's, it'sa little bit haphazard and what I
would call reactionary, uh, and,um, and unconscious, which again is
perfectly fine because I've lived.
Loads of lifetimes where the wholeincarnation's about continuing to
be unconscious in the lifetime.
But when we're riding the fence, it justmeans that we're kind of reacting and

(25:14):
responding to whatever's happening on agiven day and we're not really putting
our, um, intention or imprint into it.
Great.
And yeah, I think like.
What's interesting, and this isa misconception that working with
clients and, and, and people thatI've worked with over the years, one

(25:34):
of the common misconceptions aboutbeing of service to others is, is that
service to others is all about actionrather than it being of vibration.
So I just wanna talk a littlebit for a moment and then see
what your views are on it, but.
Like service to others is a vibration.

(25:56):
And if we think about anything inour lives, like our actions are
always a product of our vibration.
Even if like, so someone was like angrilytowards us or kind of like drove in
front of us, if like our, our kind of.
Uh, heart rate increases and maybe weget a little bit angry or something
like that of like, oh, I could havecrashed, or something of that nature.

(26:18):
That's like a very instant reaction.
It like slowed that downand distilled it out.
You would notice that there's avibration there that first, that
felt like something, someone'sdone something wrong to me.
There's a vibration that I've beeninfringed upon or something, and
then the reaction comes up from that.
So, of course you can choosehow to react and respond, but

(26:39):
essentially what this kind of, and.
Like is illustrating is, is thatthere's a vibration beforehand, and
if in this instant the vibrationof the car driver was enlightened,
someone could kind of pull in front.
Then there might not even be a reaction.
The vibration might just becomplete love for that person, even

(27:02):
if they drove in front of them.
So what we're distilling out here, youknow, if Jesus was on the, the highway,
if you will, like the vibration may be,oh, okay, someone's, someone's in a hurry.
They must have somethingimportant to go and do.
I'm okay.
Everyone's okay, and there's no.

(27:22):
There's no kind of reaction orresponse in that negative potential,
potentially seen, negative way.
So as we talk about being of serviceto others, sometimes people can feel
like, oh, being of service to others, Ihave to go and do all of these things.
And of course, that can be a naturalextension of recognizing that vibration.

(27:46):
But through my writingand through my work.
I always like to refer to tuning intothe vibration, which is already there.
As kind of being the first step.
And then, you know, as we talk aboutin kind of our disclaimer again,
everything that we do here, just takewhat resonates, leave what doesn't.
We'll, we'll continues tosay this over and over again.

(28:07):
Honor your own spiritual sovereignty.
Yeah.
Just because this is what we found tobe true for us and other people have,
does not mean that it's true for you.
Uh, so always honor your ownspiritual sovereignty, but part
of that process of tuning into.
Service to others is just this checkingin to see, is that why I came to Earth?

(28:31):
Yes.
Because it's like, it's no point insaying, oh, I wanna be service to others.
So one of the great exercises thathas come through, kind of intuitively
for me, uh, to help people is.
Remember a time, and I just inviteeveryone here at this moment in time.
Just remember a time where youwere of service to someone.

(28:51):
Like whether it be you, uh, held adoor open for someone, or if you.
Cooked dinner for someone, or if youhad a conversation with a friend and you
supported them through a difficult time,uh, or, you know, perhaps professionally
you were helping someone and they hada breakthrough tune into that vibration
by remembering the act of service, buttune into the vibration that came before.

(29:18):
Act of service.
And that's a way to kind of tuneinto the vibration in its pure form
before the kind of physical realityexperience is laid upon top of it.
And then when you kind of get tuned intothat vibration, when you remember it, that
vibration of being of service to someone,ask yourself, is this what I choose?

(29:42):
Is this what I prefer?
If not, you know, ask yourself why not?
You know?
And part of the other part ofthe work that we say in terms of
generally, you know, the work thatwe offer are, and we resonate to
people who find that vibration.
And again, it can be, it doesn't haveto be act of doing, but generally

(30:03):
we kind of resonate with people.
And our work is designed for peoplewho recognize, yes, I want to be.
Of service to the planetary shifttowards love in whatever form.
Yeah.
That might be, whether it be just being,you know, like a, a great husband or
wife or daughter or son or, you know,whether it's creating your own content

(30:23):
or your own business or whether it's,whether when you're working in an
organization for someone that yourgeneral kind of orientation is to help
make the world, uh, a more loving place.
Um, but the first partof that is that question.
Is to remember it, to tune intoit, and then, and then kind

(30:44):
of recognize that vibration.
Because like for me personally,and I'll just wrap this up for me
personally, when I, when I tune intothat, it takes me to like a different
place that's not of this earth.
It's like, oh, I like, we get so.
Much amnesia.
Yeah.
The day to day of life.

(31:04):
But if we, like, I remember likeone, like if I remember, one thing
comes up for me now is that whenwe went on this tree planting.
Experience and he was just like,there was just this pure experience
of just planting a tree in the ground.
No cameras, no nothing.
It's just like you are there havingthis experience with these trees and
you can feel that act of service thatdoesn't need anything, doesn't do it

(31:28):
for anything, but is just pure, likelove coming through, expressing itself.
And like when I tune intoan experience like that.
Or something of a similar nature.
I can just feel myself.
It just like feels like, like theday-to-day kind of preoccupations
that I have just seeminginsignificant in comparison to that

(31:49):
act of vibration of that service.
And then like, you know, and wecould probably, we may do more
episodes on service studies 'causethis is just such a, a big topic
and it's the heart of all our work.
Yeah.
But when we start tuninginto that vibration.
That vibration before the act, we canexpress ourselves from that place of

(32:09):
purity of service to the infinite,one consciousness, or to the earth or
to each other, or whatever it may be.
Our actions, our decisions, whatwe decide to do with our whole
life, how we choose to embody it.
On some level, they're insignificant.
We, we have our soul blueprint.
We'll have the ways that we preferto do it and the ways that we

(32:31):
might get more excitement or theway that our lives may play out.
But the invitation is, is that firstpoint is just to tune into that
vibration and then ask the simplequestion, how do I live from it?
How do I live from this vibration?
I love that.
I love that because, you know, it's,I always think of it as its own loving

(32:52):
intelligence that continues to informus, you know, how does being in service
to others or being in service to love,uh, find its way and work through you?
How does it find itsway and work through me?
And it's gonna be unique yetagain to every single one of us.
And you and I might be inthe same situation and be.

(33:13):
Wondering like what's being calledforth from me in this or not and how,
what's being called forth through me inservice to others at this exact moment.
And you and I both are gonna get,uh, possibly a different, uh,
inspiration for what's being invited.
And both are correct.
Both are true.

(33:34):
Uh, they just have differentways of working them way, their
way through, uh, individuals.
So I think that's another beautiful thingthat you've pointed out, is just that.
It is gonna look unique to each person.
How that, how that takes shape or form.
And again, that it's always there, almostlike a guide to help inform us, you know,

(33:56):
especially when we show up in places.
I know, uh, you know, sometimes beforeI go into a session, uh, maybe one of
the dogs has knocked something off and,and a glass is broke and then something
spilled and Michael knows how much.
Messes freak me out, you guys.
Uh, they trigger me so bad, and,uh, so I have to really kind of just

(34:17):
recognize I'm dysregulated and, andthen I have to talk myself off the
cliff of like, it's just a spill.
It's just glass, it's just nothing.
So I have a whole process thathappens with messes, but like, if
that happens right before I go intoa session with a client or a student.
Um, something I'm very aware ofand, and do all the time, and I'm,

(34:38):
so, I'm not concerned about that.
I'm dysregulated for the moment becausethen the next thing I do, once I get
it cleaned up and realize I've gotfive minutes, I just calmly stop and
center, close my eyes, remind myselfI'm here in service to love that
I'm about to step into a session.
It's in service to love.
It's in service to all beings.

(34:58):
It's in service to the otherperson, the client, the student.
And then immediately when weplace our attention, there we are.
There we are.
That, and I think what you were talkingabout from a non-dual perspective or
a non-dual foundation is recognizingthat that being, or that vibration
or that essence or energy of beingin service to others already exists.

(35:22):
It's just simply we're placing ourattention back towards it and therefore
strengthening our own awareness of it.
It's already there.
It's already strong.
We just, again, I'll say, have theopportunity here in our incarnation
on planet Earth to recognizethat it's there and choose it.
Or recognize it's there and not chooseit, or not recognize it's there.

(35:45):
And sometimes, sometimes accidentallychoose it and sometimes not choose it.
But, um, so, so I love that.
Uh, I, I love that it streams throughof, through each of us, uh, uniquely.
I, I think the other thingthat I just quickly wanna say.
That comes up and, and I'dlove to hear from you too.

(36:05):
You know, how this resonates withyou or how you recognize it in your,
in your own consciousness, but.
You and I both know, I'm, I'm aware ofother lifetimes I've had, um, not nowhere
near all of them, but, uh, I'm awareof many lifetimes I've had and I've had
lifetimes that I'm aware that I was notchoosing to be in service to others or

(36:28):
being consciously in service to love.
So the other thing is that I, uh,recognize for me in this lifetime.
For whatever reason, I can't escape it.
Not that I would try to, but the desireor the impulse or the yearning or
the leaning towards, or the seekingthat being in service to love.

(36:54):
Is, I'm aware, is just naturallyinherent innately in me in this lifetime,
and that when I stumbled across itformally is what I might say, that
I recognized myself in it and I feltlike, oh, that's what that is inside.
And so I just got excited to get, tohave a more strong or powerful or direct

(37:20):
way of accessing that and working withit to move through my incarnation with
whatever catalysts or opportunitiesarrive, um, for lessons and and growth.
But I'm curious to know if, if youfeel that way, if you feel like that's
something, I know you mentioned earlierat the beginning of the episode that

(37:43):
from a kid you notice those thingslike the, the 10 pounds that you found.
I'm just wondering in your ownreflection with your own life, if you,
how that resonates with you or not?
Yeah, I mean, I think, I thinklike from when I was a kid,
I got a lot of, I would say.
Enjoyment out of helping myfamily or cooking meals or

(38:06):
making coffees for people.
You love that?
Or doing all these types of things.
Yeah.
You know me, I still lovecooking and everything.
Yeah.
Thank you.
And then there's of course like adistortion that was also on top of
that, that there was a part of methat recognized that I would have
the experience of more love whenI did these things for people.
Got it.
So then there's like a traumadistortion on top of that, which
I've kind of been aware of.

(38:27):
Um.
But I think more like to maybeget back to the question in a
minute, what kind of comes through?
Is that it?
It's not about getting itright, like first time.
It's not even aboutgetting it right, period.
Full stop.
For the people in the UK who dunnowhat period is it's, it's not about

(38:47):
getting it completely like correct.
What it seems to be to me is.
That there are a series of decisions andchoices that are presented to us at each
moment in time, and we get to choose howwe want to respond, and if we want it to
be binary within the kind of experienceand say there was choosing service to

(39:12):
others and choosing service to self.
Whilst, of course thereare, it's like a gradient.
And it's a spectrum between, it'snot black or white, but if we look
at everything for this moment intime, we could have the opportunity
with every decision that we wouldmake as like an integration practice.

(39:33):
If it so resonated to you, you could say.
Do I wanna choose with every decisionthat I get to make throughout
this day, maybe just start forlike 60 minutes to make it easy.
Yeah, that's a good start.
But like, how do I choose to be of serviceto others with every decision that I make?

(39:53):
Because the polarization intoservice, to others is a choice.
It's a conscious choice.
Respecting spiritual sovereigntyand free will, it's not necessary.
It's not mandatory.
The reason why we choose, andagain, we don't get things perfect.
We are not holier than thou.
No.
We're human beings on earth and wedesire and strive to be more and more

(40:17):
to service to others in our life, ourmarriage, our work, and our relationships
and all these types of things.
But we don't always get it right.
Every time.
You know, there's trauma, there's human,there's life, there's things like this.
There's, there's so manydifferent complexities of it.
But for this practice.
We come back to the choice becausehowever we respond or react just like
Jesus on the highway, like drivingbefore Jesus, literally taking the wheel.

(40:42):
Yes.
He actually took thewheel in this finally.
Thank you.
So there's, but there'salways a choice there.
Even if we don't think that there is,sometimes we might feel like we don't have
a choice in how we respond or react, but.
In my experience, there's alwaysan element of choice, even if

(41:03):
it's how we respond to somethingthat we don't have a choice about.
There's a choice energeticallyin terms of how we respond to it.
But for the practice of the integrationof polarizing into service to others,
there's an invitation to use thatcatalyst to say, I'm gonna respond
to this from service to others.
And then just notice how things transform.

(41:25):
Notice how you have a differentexperience, and to kind of ground
this into like, why is that useful?
And we're gonna draw uponlike the law of one work.
In terms of the two souls paths,essentially, that when you incarnate
into earth density, which is currentlythird density, going into fourth

(41:49):
density, and I'm sure we'll go more intothat in another, another experience.
Sounds good.
Another podcast, which is essentiallythe planetary shift towards love,
which is what we're dedicating ina truth seekers to and our work to.
Essentially when you, when you area soul or an experience, or you have
an experience of coming to Earth andincarnating, there is an option through

(42:12):
the incarnation to choose to be.
Of service to self or service to others.
Now many of us are just unconsciouslygoing about life, sometimes being
of service to others, sometimesbeing of service to self.
I can kind of say that that was kindof more of my experience when, you
know, before my kind of spiritualawakening of like, ah, there was this
pull towards things that felt good.

(42:33):
And then there would also be this kind oflike fear and trauma and be like, well,
I need these things for myself as wellbecause I'm scarcity and lack beliefs.
But essentially what we're saying in,in quoting the law of one, that the
two, so sole path choices are to be ofservice to others and service to self.
And that eventually, as you go through thesole's evolution, when you get to sixth
density, everything becomes service toothers because there's a recognition that

(42:56):
everything is one infinite consciousnessand it's impossible to be of service
to self at that level of awareness andawakeness because there's this recognition
of the one consciousness of all things.
So the practice of this in our experience,and again, take it or leave it.
Yeah.
We've kind of, I would say, integratedthis in our own, uh, unique way.

(43:19):
I wouldn't say that we'refollowing any scripture or text.
Uh, you, you listen to ourfirst episode, you'll know why.
So go back and check that one out.
Um, but it's about the, whatreally feels like that authentic
recognition to us through ourdirect experience when we've chosen.
As we go through that exercisewe did before of coming back to

(43:39):
remembering a time of being ofservice to others, there's just this
expansion that naturally occurs.
And that's why, you know, we both, whilstwe were being of service to others in
our, uh, our jobs previously, uh, beforewe met each other and our businesses
previously, it was why, you know, partof the reason why we took that big leap
of faith to close those businesses downand take a step to being like full-time.

(44:05):
I would say in services to people'sspiritual awakening, personal
development, transformation.
Um, so that's, that's kind of why,part of what we've done and how it's
integrated for us of choosing tobe of service to others, I think it
brings a great immense amount of joy.
It brings fulfillmentand relative meaning.
Uh, it gives us a guiding principle ofhow we live our lives, how to live our

(44:27):
lives, and now where we find ourselves.
You know, after we've been in, in serviceto others through multidimensional work
for a combined of about 25 years or so,between us now at this stage, what we've
really found ourself coming into and aswe we step into this next chapter, what we
are so excited about right now is helpingpeople step into service to others.

(44:50):
For those of you who feel that kind ofcall out there who like resonate with.
Recognizing that planetary shifttowards love, we found our kind of
incarnation, our own soul blueprint isexcited the most right now from helping
people step into service to others.
Yeah.
So I don't know if I have anyquestions, but if you have any follow

(45:11):
ups, we're kind of, I think we'rekind of coming towards our kind of.
Time.
We're trying to keep these around, aroundabout the 45 minutes or so, so we don't
go off on tangents for hours at a time.
Uh, we'll see if we stick to that.
But do you feel like, to kind oflike close this out, that like you
have anything that you would liketo summarize or any practices for

(45:34):
people to go home with today oranything else that you want to add?
Yeah, I think just one thing briefly,you know the other thing, um, a
lot of our work, you know, we workwith people who are not just moving
through personal transformation.
Acceleration and growth, but peoplewho are stepping into, or who have

(45:55):
already stepped into, uh, some sortof professional, a business modality,
something where they're wanting to taketheir sole blueprint and be in service
professionally with that, uh, I happento work with, because of my intuitive
development course, I happen to workwith conscious channels, uh, intuitive.

(46:18):
Practitioners, multidimensionalprofessionals, uh, and just again,
dedicated and are true seekers who aredesiring to strengthen their own awareness
of their own intuition and use it toassist themselves in their own life.
And then also to be of service toother people, uh, in whatever their
business or industry or modality is.

(46:41):
And so.
Where that gets applied there.
Just for any of you who might bein the range of anything, you hear
me speaking about the choosing yourpolarization to be in service to others
in that professional work, especially,I'm gonna call it, um, intuitives
mediums, uh, healers, uh, therapists,coaches, doctors, uh, um, channels.

(47:10):
Massage.
There's so many, there's somany different modalities that
this can find Its way into that.
When sometimes people say, oh, you know,sometimes I, sometimes I get really good
guidance that I feel like comes throughfor my clients, or I intuitively really
feel something great for my clients.
Other times I get something andI'm like, oh, that, I think that's
just my mind coming up with that.

(47:31):
Or other times I get things andit feels a little bit negative and
people get confused or, um, havedifficulty with discernment about.
How do I know if this is real?
How do I know if this is helpful?
How do I know if this is beneficial?
You know, one of the most powerfulthings anybody can do at the
professional level, especially whenwe're working in service to other
people professionally, is to choose thatpolarization and then dedicate to it.

(47:57):
Because when we do that, what we do toour own field, our own essence, our own
beingness, our own multidimensionality,what we do is we say, this is who I am.
We're basically embodying it becausewe put our attention towards it.
Again, because that being in serviceto love already exists within us.

(48:17):
All we're doing is consciously choosingit and therefore putting our attention
towards it and emphasizing it.
So then when I say that, even rightnow Michael's watching me, I know
intuitively, and when I say I'm herein alignment with being in service
to others, my field just exudes it.
It emanates it, and then I make itclear when I'm working with somebody,

(48:40):
I make it clear to my own consciousnessand, and what I call my spirit team.
Yet again, another podcast episodedown the line, I make it clear this
is who I am, it's what I'm doing,it's what I'm in service to in
this session with this client, andtherefore, that strengthening of that.
Field of love within me, recognizing itas me also emphasizing it outside of me.

(49:05):
What that does is it becomesthe discernment container
for anything that's not.
Love at that highest vibration.
Right?
So in other words, if for some reasonI'm getting guidance that fear feels very
conditional, like the task master guide,you have to do this, you have to do that.
In order to get moreguidance, you have to do this.

(49:28):
Well, that's a veryconditional, because I've.
So much putting my attention towardsor embodying, radiating that being in
service to love, I therefore can be, canrecognize that conditionality quicker.
Ah, this synergy's comingfrom conditionality.
It's not an alignment withthat highest vibration of love.

(49:50):
That's interesting.
Thank you.
But that's not the guidance I'mgonna be receiving or paying
attention to or sharing today.
Okay.
So that too, for any of youprofessionals out there.
That's the way we shore up and getreally refined, purified, clean,
crystal clear on who we are, how we'repracticing, and what we're connecting

(50:10):
with, and what we're actually gonnacommunicate and share in that work in
service to our students and clients.
Beautiful.
And I know how powerful the work thatyou do with all your students is.
So you bring it through so beautifullyand gracefully and fantastically,
and I learn so much from you.
So thank you so much.

(50:31):
Thanks.
And thank you everyone,uh, for listening today.
Uh, if you'd like to check out ourwebsite, inner true seekers.com,
you can find a whole bunch of freeresources or one-on-one courses,
programs and sessions, and ifyou have, uh, any questions.
Feel free to reach out to us and we lookforward to seeing you on the next episode.
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