They didn’t hunt ghosts. They hunted grief. In 1976, a man named Leonard Price launched the Phantom Recovery Unit—men in black jumpsuits with a skull-and-slash patch who promised to “purge spirits” for a fee. Their gear looked official: CB-radio “scanners,” colored-smoke tanks, steel cases stamped with radiation symbols. It was theater for families who had just buried someone. Midnight rituals. Staged hauntings. Thousands paid to feel safe.
For nearly four years, no one stopped it—until Diana Kersey, a reporter posing as a widow, carried a hidden recorder into their rituals. Her investigation captured the threats, the setups, and the money trail. When the story aired in 1980, the PRU vanished overnight. Their Detroit headquarters was stripped to the walls. No arrests followed. But in old neighborhoods across Michigan and Ohio, the mark remains: a white skull painted on door frames, almost buried under peeling paint.
This episode critiques the legend versus the record: how grief became a business plan, why the costumes worked, and how an exposé can end a chapter without closing the book. If you listen closely, what do you hear—the supernatural, or the echo of a con built to sound like comfort?
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