January 9, 2025 • 45 mins
Buckle up, because this week we’re diving into some of the most unhinged Reddit stories yet. These people might just take the crown for the Worst Humans of 2024:
1. A husband wants to step out on his marriage because his wife—who literally saved his life by stepping between him and an assailant—got a scar on her face, and now he’s “not attracted” to her anymore.
2. A woman finds out her boyfriend has been catfishing her as three different people for their entire relationship. The way he reacts when she catches him? Even worse.
3. A guy starts crushing on his little brother’s girlfriend and thinks she likes him back. Naturally, he goes to Reddit for advice, and chaos ensues.
4. A mom steals the college fund OP’s late father left him to pay for OP’s older sister’s second wedding and lavish honeymoon.
5. Bonus: A man claims he was “manipulated” into cheating on his wife by a coworker who just listened to him complain until he “had no choice.” What a clown.
Which one of these could be fake? We seriously wish they all were. Tune in now to hear us break it all down!
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And we're back.
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We're just doing something.
Happy New Year.
Guys, happy New Year.
2025.
This is our first episode in 2025.
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We are recording on January 1st, 2025.
New Year's Day.
Very first day.
Very first day, baby.
And this episode's going to be fun because we're going to take a look at the very worst
human beings to exist in 2024.
Hopefully they're not in this room.
Ooh.
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Definitely not.
That's my step, Joe.
Just right here.
Got him on the phone.
Oh.
Oh.
On speed dial.
Oh.
Yeah.
So last week was fun.
We had the Goodman fam come through.
Dr. Goodman and Danielle Goodman.
Good girl aesthetics.
Follow all them.
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Yes.
They'll join us again.
They're family.
All right.
Well, this is going to be a fun episode.
2024.
Worst of 2024.
Let's jump right in.
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Who wants to lead us off, you?
Sure.
Let's do it.
Struggling to stay faithful and remain attracted to my wife, 28F, after we experienced a violent
attack together.
Not sure what to do.
I can't talk to anyone about this for obvious reasons.
I've even tried speaking to a therapist and they make me feel so low I haven't gone back
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since.
My wife and I have been together for six years, married for three.
We currently have a bundle of joy on the way and she's about five months along.
My wife was always on the fence about kids, but I was adamant about wanting them.
And now that it's becoming so real, I'm not sure anymore.
I feel like I've just been on autopilot and after spending this whole week buying baby
stuff, I need to figure it out.
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Last year, my wife and I were at the park relaxing like we do almost every weekend and
someone yelled at us for speaking in my native language, Korean.
My wife is trying to learn too because she's not Korean or Asian at all, but wants to only
speak Korean at home to make sure our family is fully bilingual and they don't lose their
culture.
We were practicing out loud and sharing a snack and this guy just walks up to us out
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of nowhere with wild racist BS.
He kicked our food and there was some arguing and while I was calling the police with my
back turned, he tried to hit me with a pretty large rock.
My wife jumped in between and ended up taking the full force of the hit, which literally
busted her forehead open and knocked her out cold for almost a minute.
I rushed my wife to the hospital and the guy ran off and was eventually caught by police
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a few weeks later.
My wife needed 14 stitches right across her face and had two black eyes and blood in them.
Her face was swollen beyond recognition for a few days too and when she fell, messed up
an old knee injury so when she got out of the hospital the next day half her face was
covered in bandages and she was limping.
But she was still cracking jokes in the ER.
After the bandages and stitches came out, she was told she would need to wait at least
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a year before having her scar surgically fixed or whatever treatments.
But now that the year has almost passed, I've started handing out her scheduling appointments
and such.
This entire time I've been struggling with remaining attracted to her, despite it but
didn't tell her, since I didn't want to be cruel.
She's now saying she doesn't think she wants to get anything done because she wants to
save the money for the baby.
I've offered to pay for half of it and she still hasn't really looked into having it
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done.
I've pushed her back, meeting my parents again because of this.
They live outside of our country hence why they haven't met yet.
I'm bringing her around my friends since it happened.
Another part of me is also just sorta mad she even did it.
I feel like half a man now and I've had to delete myself off dating apps before making
a mistake.
I've been channeling it all at the gym but every time I look at her I'm reminded of all
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those feelings.
She hasn't changed a bit besides the scar.
She's obviously handled it better than I did and somehow it's making me love her less.
This plus the pregnancy.
I don't even know what to do.
I thought about asking for a hall pass but I know without a doubt she will leave me.
I thought about taking care of my needs on the side so I could be the man she needs me
to be but I know she will eventually find out and she will hate me and make my life
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hell or leave me a single father and I will never hear from her again.
I just wish it had never happened but I really need some other perspective or opinion on
this.
Bruh.
Wow.
Oh my gosh.
I was like oh and then he just starts so casually like oh I just like bore me.
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She's like a blow for you dude.
Literally he could have been the freaking nasty face man.
If only she knew she's like oh I would have let him just hit you upside the head.
She sounds like a fantastic wife and she's pregnant with his child.
She's literally pregnant and gotten the way of a rock hitting this dude.
Right.
Even if she wasn't pregnant it's like he's the worst.
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He's the worst.
And I'm like I'm a little mad at her for getting in the way because that dude obviously had
it coming.
It gets just smoked.
Wow.
What a piece of work.
Yes.
And that poor woman.
One thing didn't make sense.
He said that it's been almost a year but she still wants to save the money for when the
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baby gets there and she was five months long when it happened.
Maybe they had another baby.
When she got clubbed by the stranger she was five months pregnant and then it's a year
later he's like and now it's almost time for her to start looking at getting her face fixed
but she says she still wants to save the money that she would spend on the baby.
Do we know for sure that she was pregnant during the attack?
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She was for sure.
Or is that just what she is now?
She might maybe that's yeah maybe she wasn't pregnant when they got attacked.
That makes more sense.
Okay well that's a little bit better.
I took it she was five months pregnant when she got when she just dove in front to save
her husband.
And he's been like on dating apps and stuff and then he'll just delete it when he gets
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too close to like actually.
I've had to constrain my soul.
I don't get why he says that he'll only pay for half of it.
If he's married just and you want it done pay for the whole thing.
So obviously it kind of seems like maybe he kind of doesn't want her to do it so that
he can leave her.
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Or he's just like they have this split money thing even though they're married.
I also think if you're not attracted to your wife you should try to find a way to either
overcome that or maybe separate because that you know that'd be really hard but the way
he's doing it is very terrible.
Is like terrible.
Yeah.
Like you can't just cheat on them.
Like you got to separate before you like are looking at other options.
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But he's even like poor me I can't do anything because he's saying he doesn't want to leave
her.
He doesn't want to be a single father.
So it's like what he's like she will hate me and make my life hell or leave me a single
father and I will never hear from her again.
And he's saying I just wish it had never happened which is he wished she never got the scar.
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And there's a comment by just some kind of thing that says imagine being that badly repulsed
by your partner because they got a scar defending you.
I'm like that's so bad.
It's terrible.
Like how bad is this scar going to be like that it really just ruined her whole appearance.
I'll tell you this.
It sounds to me like it's just a scapegoat.
Like he's probably the attraction issue probably goes way beyond the scar.
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And that's just he's just blaming it on that.
Because this guy sounds like a piece of trash anyway.
Yeah.
And to go back to your timeline you were kind of questioning.
P.M. me fancy beer said but five months ago in parentheses seven months post attack she
was attractive enough to make a baby with dot dot dot dot.
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So it's like okay.
So now you're not it.
So I think it has more to do with like she's pregnant and big and he probably is not she
her body's changing and maybe she's not filling it in the bedroom and like so he's being all
like yeah yeah I don't know.
There's probably a lot of factors.
There's probably so much.
Yeah.
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Just that.
Yeah.
But I get where Joe's coming from like it is kind of his like okay have a good escape
code.
Yeah.
Like I'll just I'll just yeah I'll just blame this whole experience.
He's just a terrible person and wants to cheat.
That is going to be tough to beat in terms of stories.
That guy is a piece of work.
That was good.
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Mine's pretty good.
That was good.
Love it.
That was great.
Thank you.
That could that could be an AI find though.
All right.
That's kind of what I was thinking with the whole timeline thing.
That got straightened out.
It's from am I the devil.
I'm just going to plug this now.
I could not decide between two stories.
So I'm giving you guys two this week.
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Well it's just I just had to time for everything.
I just had to I'm going to I'm going to do the slightly longer one now.
The shorter one's going to be later.
This was three days ago.
So almost into 2025.
Dang.
Am I overreacting after I found out my boyfriend's online friend group I became part of two
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years ago has been just him the whole time.
Oh no.
That's weird.
So I'll read the story and I'm going to read their text conversation.
That's how this sub works.
It's okay.
Yeah.
It's crazy.
I guess it should have been less oblivious but since a little before we started dating
in 2022 I was added to my boyfriend's three person Instagram group chat with what he explained
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were some of his closest online friends.
The two other accounts seemed like real people because they had real followers and comments
on their posts and drastically different aesthetics slash looks to them.
We eventually made a discord server for us and that alone was convincing enough since
multiple times we'd all be active at the same time.
We never voice chatted but I used to never voice chat either so I didn't think twice.
The group got closer though as more and more time passed since I was first added to their
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group chat.
In the last month we got together and planned a research trip to Hawaii for August.
In parentheses we live on the east coast of the US and we booked everything.
So imagine my surprise when I'm over at his house tonight and his computer is open and
I just want to log into my Google Docs when I accidentally stumble across first of all
follower bot sites and also him logged in and chatting with me as one of the individuals
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I thought I'd become close with.
I just got this sinking feeling.
I didn't jump to the idea that they could be fake either.
I was like maybe he just has their log in since they're all like so close and is way
too interested in their messages.
But then I noticed their only chats were the group chats and the server and the real kicker
was the email address it was signed up under was his backup email with his full name.
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I quite literally snooped until he got out of the shower and caught me which I'm not
saying was right of me but I couldn't help myself.
During my snooping I gradually became devastatingly confident he wasn't behind just one but both
accounts.
I've never seen his face so red and he just absolutely panicked and started shouting at
me to get out of his business.
I couldn't even form the right words to say to him.
In the end I just walked out of his apartment sobbing.
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It's very early in the morning I get that but this screenshot is what he has to say
and I'm starting to feel crazy.
Am I overreacting about my discovery?
So this is her.
She says I just want to know why.
When it finally came time for the Hawaii trip how are you going to explain that?
What were you thinking?
He says you know something I've noticed about you?
You can never just be calm and there always has to be an issue.
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I know you were raised in a volatile environment and still have to relearn a lot about healthy
relationship dynamics but it's like you thrive on chaos only.
And we were going to see Wicked tonight.
I guess there that goes.
Oh you cancelled our movie date.
And she says you can't be serious.
I deserve answers and I'm honestly so creeped out.
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Basically half of my life for the past two years has been a complete and total lie and
you were behind all of it.
He says and this is the end of the thread that we have.
Okay don't be dramatic.
You know this isn't a big deal.
You're just getting to harp on this and make a bigger issue.
That's crazy.
What a psycho.
Like that is the biggest narcissist.
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That is like.
Dude that's creepy.
Like what was she doing?
But what's the point?
Yeah like what did he get out of that?
He wanted her to maybe emotionally cheat on?
Like see if she would cheat on him.
But for two years?
Literally what is he getting out of that?
Is it like some weird kink that he's just like.
Yeah he's a catfish guy for sure.
He gets a adrenaline rush out of him.
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Imagine what other weird stuff he's doing on the internet.
Yeah exactly I was thinking that.
Like I wonder if he has any other catfish girlfriends.
I don't even know.
Like literally crazy.
Like did she break up with him?
So this is the most frustrating part.
This is three days ago.
So we may be able to revisit this but it's literally like everyone is just like.
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Everyone's just like leave this is crazy.
Like all this different stuff.
Showing up to Hawaii you're like what's up?
Yeah.
Yeah like.
Jose it's just you.
Hey what's up dude.
Oh yeah they're like yeah they both know showed us.
That's crazy.
I mean like I booked their flights for them too.
I thought I was being nice but like they're not even here.
And we would probably still buy a ticket for these fake people.
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He did.
He did.
No he didn't.
To a client that's what they were saying is that they booked I mean at least they had
everything planned.
We don't know that he did.
That would be like actually insane if he spent money.
Bro I'll be your friend.
Yeah like this poor girl.
I can't even fathom what this guy was trying to accomplish with this.
And they were on a discord server where apparently you can see who's online or not.
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And she said that I never thought more about this because we were all online at the same
time.
So this dude's like what multiple devices like.
Yeah.
Like what is he.
He's like.
Yeah really though.
Phone iPad computer.
But if they're together it's that's just crazy.
It's just a different level of like.
That's what you're doing bro.
Well the fact that like the motive is not.
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We don't know.
It's that we don't know the motive.
It is got to be something so dark so creepy and weird that like it's got to be something
bad that he like wants it.
What if he was planning the trip and he was like going to kill her or do something to
her and blame the two users.
He's a imaginary friend.
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Yeah.
The guy that it's just like roots back to his burner email address.
Which he's probably an idiot but like someone that does that is already an idiot.
No yeah that guy's sketch.
Yeah.
Like where were there any other red flags.
I mean if you're going to die but it's nice it might be in Hawaii.
Yeah murder me in Hawaii any day of the week.
Oh my gosh.
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Not like not immediately but like.
If I get to.
Let me live there for a week.
If I get to pick one of the 50 stays.
It's a good one.
Yeah.
That's poor girl.
He's so gaslighting.
Yeah he's just like.
Like you know the thing about you is.
I'm like.
Yeah.
The thing about me.
You want.
Me.
The thing about you.
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Well here's the problem.
We were going to see Wicked tonight so.
Like I'm pissed.
Yeah I'm pissed about that.
Yeah.
No I have to go by myself.
Because I don't want to.
I thought the four tickets already.
I literally like we already have our seats chosen.
Like.
And you're sitting next to Bobby.
Wait what did he say.
We already.
Guess guess guess guess that's out the window.
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Well fine.
Have you got another thing Wicked with you now.
No.
Why don't you hit up like Tom and Derek that are on the forum.
Yeah like yes are these friends men women.
So that was the other thing.
So she was getting close to one of the ones like it had to have been a woman.
That was my thought was that it said like I over the last six months or whatever like
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I've been getting closer with this one.
It's like.
Why did she say a girl though.
Then that's the other thing is like maybe maybe it was like this whole like major insecurity
thing where he was like trying to test her limits of like.
Yeah.
Where she would go.
Yeah.
Like kind of knew what buttons to press.
I mean obviously there's there's like seeds of trauma therapies type stuff in here because
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he was like yeah all your childhood trauma like you had a rough upbringing.
I don't know.
I wish we would have found out why he actually did it though rather than just flip it on
her because I would love to know like why would he do that.
No there's there's no.
What could anyone possibly say.
I don't think I would want to make make up friends and like text myself through.
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No it sounds terrible.
Yeah because you're normal.
Yeah.
He's not normal.
Should I 21 and go for it with my brother's 19 and girlfriend 19 F if she's giving me
all the signs.
Yeah.
It's a big no.
I'm on mobile.
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So sorry for the formatting.
This is a throwaway account.
I will call my brother C and my brother's girlfriend S. This is so messy.
I am pretty close with my brother but I honestly feel he doesn't deserve his girlfriend.
So my brother and his girlfriend have come to our grandma's for a week they have off.
They have been here for five days.
They won't leave for three more and it's killing me.
My little brother is not the best looking in the family.
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He's just not since he started seeing S. He's gone to the gym and bulked up a bit and changed
his hair and his eating habits.
Not because she forced him she loved him even when he was chubby.
He said he wanted to start working out and eating better to get into the same level of
attractiveness as her.
My best friend and I she is a girl and I both agreed beforehand that she is very good looking
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just from her pictures with my brother on social media and stuff.
S&C came to visit my grandmother and I was there because I'm currently living with her.
Not only is she ridiculously hot.
She's funny and smart too.
She's pre-med and is taking a lot of hard classes that S&C says she's breezing through.
She's the world's easiest person to talk to.
The first night she came to visit she was quiet as this was the first time meeting extended
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family for her.
The next day S&C had a mind grain and she wanted to stay home with him and take care
of him but I convinced her to go to the mall with me and S&C encouraged her to.
We spent the day at the mall together.
We played with puppies at a store and shopped a bit and got lunch.
I don't think I've ever gotten along with someone as well as I've gone along with
S. She is beautiful, witty and basically my ideal partner.
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I have quickly developed strong feelings for her.
Okay now this is where it gets really messy.
S&C was showing me some memes on his phone and accidentally swiped by a nude of hers.
He thought I wasn't looking at his phone but he did manage to see it.
I know this is really bad but when he got up to the go to the bathroom I unlocked his
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phone and went to look at it.
I couldn't help myself I've already mentioned that I think she's hot so I won't go into
detail about how I felt about the picture because it's probably obvious I felt so guilty
about it.
After this thing I was gonna say that was not obvious.
He's like oh my gosh the devil's making me on his phone.
I'm looking at his picture.
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I can't stop looking.
I feel so guilty.
After this incident I think people started noticing me becoming uncomfortable near her.
My brother, my mom and my grandma asked me about it.
Eventually S asked me if she had done anything to offend me and I said no.
I came to my senses and stopped acting like a douche.
I asked if she wanted to go to the grocery store with me.
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She said sure.
I thought it would just be the two of us but C tagged along as well.
We went to the grocery store together, went back and ended up driving to the city in the
afternoon.
She wanted to give away anything that might identify me, which is an hour from where we
live.
C fell asleep in the car and again it was S and me talking.
She ended up climbing from the back seat to the front to talk to me.
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We talked and joked the whole way into the city and I just knew something was there.
I did something stupid and I told her that I wished we'd met in high school.
And she replied that she thinks we would have been best friends.
Ouch.
However once we reached the city she was back being lovey-dovey with C. It sucked because
I wanted to hold her hand so bad.
I think they felt bad for me because yesterday was Valentine's Day and I don't have a girlfriend
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so they didn't kiss or anything.
They just looked at each other like they're in love.
My questions are the following.
I know she can tell that we have a good connection.
So should I go for it?
I really want to tell her my feelings this evening.
What's the best way to do that?
Thanks.
Oh my gosh.
Oh.
Yeah.
No.
That's my story.
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That I would.
It is different if it is like a best friend because you can cut them out of your life
forever.
Right.
When it's a sibling there is nothing you can do at that point.
Like that is ruining families for the rest of time.
At least for at least 10 years.
Just to throw an arbitrary number on it.
Like if it's love, if it's real love you're talking 10 years, men.
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Pretty bad.
Dude.
That's bad.
It's just scumbag.
He asked for advice.
What was the second question?
What should I do?
I really want to tell her my feelings this evening.
What's the best way to do that?
All right.
So here's what you're going to do.
You're going to let everyone get out of your car.
You're going to drive to the tallest cliff you can find and you're just going to go right
off it.
That's all I got.
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With a bear shoe?
No bear shoe?
Okay.
No prep.
You're going to get out all the ways that you messed up in the time you have.
Pretty bad.
That's bad.
She said we would have been best friends in high school.
So that's friend zoning immediately.
She did the right thing.
She probably is thinking nothing of it.
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Yeah.
She's like, oh, she's giving me all the signs, bruh.
She's just a good girl.
She's funny.
She just has a bunch of good qualities.
She wants to get along with a brother or mom.
Brother or mom.
Yeah.
Right.
Like, he would be vibing with them.
Like, I would not think anything of it.
She makes me feel special.
Like, okay, so that's not her telling you.
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I think you're a lot.
And I love that he's trying to say he's hotter than his brother.
Like, such older brother behavior.
Literally.
Literally.
It really is.
All right.
There's some whoop-de-doodle.
You're a creep.
That's the name.
You're a creep and need to back off.
Do not ever go look at someone's nudes without permission.
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She's your brother's girlfriend.
She hasn't said anything about liking you as anything more than a friend.
I dare you to tell her and your brother that you went through his phone to find that nude
pic of her.
Did dare.
Double dog dare.
Triple dog dare you did.
That hillbilly is going off a cliff.
I totally forgot I got to freaking nude.
That was so out of line.
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That sucks.
Like goes through the phone like I feel so violated and creeped out by the little brother.
Older brother.
Older brother.
I feel like makes it worse and like oh the little brother like oh he's just romanticizing
this whole but like it's older.
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Man.
Yeah.
Like you know better.
How old is the older brother?
It's like 24.
23 and the 19th of the younger.
The two young the girl and the younger brother.
He's he's a lowlife loser and he's to find a girl on his own.
And what's funny is like this guy's dumb.
He's ugly little brother and dude you're living with your grandma.
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I was gonna say.
Digging for your little brother's girlfriend's nudes.
You're disgusted.
You are trash.
You're trash.
Oh that's so gross and that girlfriend finds out.
I love he was like he said something about like I was super uncomfortable.
Like I was around and I was very not talking about super uncomfortable like when I was with
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everyone.
It's like he's just dying inside like.
Right.
Nobody knows his pain.
I've seen your nude and I'm in love with you and I think we should get married.
He's known her for what five days at this point.
Literally bursting up the seams.
Dude's a trip.
He's a terrible brother.
There's another funny.
What signs exactly from what you have written she's just trying to be nice to her boyfriend's
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brother.
Don't be a creep back off.
You're misinterpreting everything.
Yeah.
Amen.
Amen.
I like this girlfriend and I love it's just so sad like the younger brother has so much
trust in the older brother like yeah go with him to the mall.
Go ahead.
Sorry I don't feel good honey.
Like I don't want to keep you from having fun.
This guy seems like a gem.
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He probably has the best personality.
He's like wanting to like do better for his girlfriend.
Yes.
It's like so sweet.
He sounds amazing.
So that was the very first story.
Now he went against everybody's advice about I haven't even read it yet.
He went against everybody's advice about not telling them and there's a whole another story
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about how I think he did confess his love to her.
So I need to find it again because I just screen shot of it.
I didn't save her anything.
I'm going to look right now.
So we need to find it.
Yeah just research the title.
Yeah what's the title of Alan.
And read like should I 21 and go for it with my brother's 19 and girlfriend 19 if she's
giving me all the signs.
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OK so we have an update.
We have the update of this story.
We have to we have to go with it.
It's doing such a douche.
OK.
My brother is C and his girlfriend is S. So against Reddit and my better judgment I spoke
to my brother as you can imagine all hell broke loose.
The guilt was eating me up and I told him about the feelings I had for his girlfriend.
I also came clean about looking at her nudes and apologized.
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Wow.
This was about three years three hours ago.
My brother punched me in the face and busted my lip.
He went to our grandma and told her that he didn't feel comfortable with me in the house.
My poor grandma was so confused and C told her vaguely vaguely that I acted inappropriately
with S and violated her boundaries.
He went into S's room and asked her to pack her things so they could leave and find a hotel
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to stay in.
All I could hear was her saying what why what's wrong.
He took her and left to stay in Atlanta promising my grandma he'd call and explain when he
got there.
He just called her landline and they will be getting lunch tomorrow.
I received a text from S about a half hour ago.
I copy pasted it.
Honestly this is ridiculous that I even have to say this.
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You violated C's trust in my trust.
The pics weren't meant for your eyes.
I love your brother not you.
It's never going to happen.
You've ruined any possible friendship we could have had.
I'm not angry but I can't forgive this and I believe you need therapy.
Good luck.
I hope you get the help you need.
I am sitting here bawling in bed while my grandma knocks on the door.
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I'm sitting here bawling in bed while my grandma knocks on the door to ask what's wrong.
Reddit what do I do.
What are the steps to take to fix things with my brother.
You're not going to listen to us buddy.
How do I apologize to S. What do I tell my poor grandmother.
Thanks in advance.
I should have listened to your advice.
Wow.
That's pretty awesome.
What's wrong honey.
Grab a bat now.
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No.
No.
She broke my heart.
Slide the cookies under the door.
I love that.
I'm sitting here bawling.
I'm sitting here bawling.
You guys don't even know how sad I am.
So I didn't listen and.
What do I do.
I got punched in the face.
Update.
He hurt me.
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She's gone.
I'm sad.
No bokeh.
No bokeh but think about her like she that's so violating.
She's like I know you for four days and you're just like checking me out.
She's still handling it like a champ.
She's like I'm not even mad at you.
I just think you're like a disappointing loser.
Yeah.
Go get therapy.
Dude.
But honestly I'm so glad I thought it.
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I thought there was a small small possibility of like she.
Like it.
Was into it.
Was like it a little bit you know.
So I love this girl.
I love it.
I'm like all for the little brother.
You're disgusting and you're she's seeing it for what it clearly is like you need help
bro.
Okay but just to be devil's advocate the way this all played out was there even a way
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for her to be like not giving those vibes like you think that she would message him
and be like hey just so you know like I'm really sorry this all blew up this way.
Like you get what I'm saying like if she was giving him a little bit more of a green light
than we're saying she did.
Is there a possibility.
Like I feel like she's reacting the way that she has to no matter what I'm just and again
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she sounds awesome.
She I'm sure she is all about the little brother but if she was like a little flirtier with
him or like was maybe just crossing a little bit of those blurred lines would we know that
from her response.
I think she would have thought a little more to not stay in a hotel you know like I think
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the fact that she wants to distance and not see him anymore like like let's go stay in
a hotel let's not see your brother anymore.
It's just such a start it's such a violating thing it's like yeah I think the answer just
shows clearly on that older brother's reaction to everything though because he is not saying
like I thought she was giving me vibes like I thought she said this she said this if there
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was evidence to back up.
He knew he screwed up.
There's no question that he screwed up like yeah I don't think she crossed lines because
he would have been giving us every little thing like oh she like brushed my leg you
know like even if but like he was reading into stuff that wasn't there and so there
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would be more in what he said because he's trying to convince us like oh she wants it
too you know so I feel like he would have been like but there was nothing there so it
wasn't even like he couldn't even read into anything because there literally was nothing.
On the first post he did comment back just a little bit to some of those comments he
just said like because someone asked what were the signs exactly and he just said like when
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we would talk sometimes she would like nudge it like nudge him or like like touch his arm
or something and that's but that was it that's all it was that's a that's like mannerism
so it's like some people are just more like that yeah yeah like if Joe says oh whoa think
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you know like in the doctors and they hit your knee and you go like that yeah reflex test
I know that's what you're thinking of so this is from the subreddit entitled people it says
my mom stole my college fund to pay for my sister's wedding oh I 18m just found out my
mom drained the entire college fund my late dad left me to pay for my sister's wedding
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and honeymoon my dad passed away when I was 10 and one of the last things he did before
he died was set up a savings account for my college he always told me how important my
education was to him and my mom promised that she would honor his wishes growing up I worked
hard in school because I knew I had that safety net I got into my dream school last week and
I told my mom I needed access to the account for enrollment fees she froze she kept dodging
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the conversation and eventually I forced her to sit down and tell me what was going on
that's when she admitted she spent all the money over the last year to pay for my older
sister's extravagant wedding and her month long honeymoon in Europe when I asked her
why she said my sister deserved it because she'd gone through a rough divorce a few years
ago and this wedding was a fresh start I couldn't believe what I was hearing I asked her why
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she didn't talk to me first and her excuse was you're young you'll have time to figure
it out I thought maybe my sister didn't know where the money came from but when I confronted
her she admitted that she knew the entire time her response it's not like I forced her
to do it mom wanted to help me now I have no way to afford college my mom's solution is
for me to just take out loans like everyone else but that's not the point my dad worked
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hard and to set the money aside so I wouldn't have to worry about debt I feel completely
betrayed when I told some of my relatives about what happened my mom flipped out and
accused me of airing out family business to make her look bad she said I was being selfish
and that family helps family apparently I'm ruining the family by being upset but how
is it not selfish to take money meant for my education without asking me I don't even
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know what to do now my mom says I should just get over it but I can't look at her or my
sister the same way anymore that mom sucks she's not a mom that's not a mom she's a
great mom for the divorce remarried daughter right yeah awesome mom oh I'm livid I know
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that sucks you get into your dream school and just everything falls apart can you imagine
having a dream school I never had one okay wait this is okay this is just now reminding
me of that office episode where Michael Scott when he like talks for Scott or Scott's thoughts
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yeah and he promises those promises these kids in like kindergarten that he would pay
for their college and then it gets to that point and he's like I can't he's like I hear
some bucks I think I'm sorry for the books or something he paid for one kid's books but
he didn't write I don't think you wrote the checks correctly it's like a thousand dollars
and he's like over the whole time and he's like no like per semester and he's like I
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thought I'd be a millionaire by this time in my life his dad passed away at 10 and like
he was so grateful and so excited for his dream school he knew he had the account hey mom
I'm ready I'm ready to get enrolled can I get it like hello I did all of this no honey
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and that's probably like kind of like his connection with his dad a little bit yeah for sure you
know to like feel like that's like he's still being it together yeah that's that makes me
sad oh I'm so that mom sucks I know I'm not the fake you better be the fake cuz if you're
not I'm gonna cry that is horrible there is an update just like what he did or whatever
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but says after my original post I confronted my mom again but she doubled down saying that
she did what was best for the family that my dad would have wanted it I couldn't argue
anymore so I reached out to my dad's side of the family they were furious and now are
helping me explore legal options as my aunt thinks my mom might have violated a trust
agreement by using the money for anything other than my education oh as for my sister
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she admitted she knew where the money came from but claimed it wasn't her fault that
she didn't ask for it she offered to help pay for my college but I don't trust her to
follow through especially since she's still flaunting her dream wedding online now I'm
focused on scholarships part-time jobs and moving out as soon as I can while it hurts
I'm learning to rely on myself and my dad's side of the family who's been incredibly supportive
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oh I literally have had the chills that whole story so sad it's so sad I'm trying to get
like multiple part-time jobs and oh he's a stud don't move out stay stay where you
can live for free everything I don't know I'd want to get the frick out too I would not
forgive my mom for that I know that yeah it's hard eat her food though oh like cuz what
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sucks is like it's like they were like going down and like something bad was happening
and they had to spend the money yes because it was like a crisis she's going bankrupt
or something I have cancer yeah I have to pay like you know like some just something crazy
but like it's for something that does not matter no you don't even remember it's your
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second marriage I don't know I don't remember mine and Marley's like there's a lot of things
I forgot yeah I'm glad our wedding was chill yeah you know yeah I don't know I just think
that's something that's not a necessity it's really well and it's your second one like
this one's probably not gonna last either girl sorry and if you're gonna want to go to here's
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the thing it's your second marriage at this point you're a full-blown adult yeah you want
to go to Europe for a month you better be freaking paying for it hopefully the the daughter's
new husband is gonna be able to pay to put her in a home and all that stuff cuz cuz
OP is not gonna be taking care her let's go change your diapers yeah karma's coming for
her for sure story number two I couldn't leave this one alone this guy this came from relationship
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advice but more recently it was on am I the devil quote manipulated unquote into cheating
on my wife I 28m was manipulated into cheating on my wife 28f how do we move forward through
our marriage hey reddit I'm going through a tough time in my marriage it all started
because recently I entered a depression my wife and I both have very demanding jobs recently
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I had a new project that had me working longer hours and that is what started my depression
now going through my depression I started confiding in my coworker about how I was feeling
I thought I could trust her as a friend but she knew I was in a vulnerable state she took
advantage of my state and this led to an affair my wife found out and we are going
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to counseling Monday but this month our marriage is on the ropes I've been trying to get her
to understand my depression I've been trying to get her to understand my depression and
how low my mental health was but she doesn't want to hear it she's the one to hear it I
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was crying the next minute she was going to say it's not my fault oh it was so good
she could manage with me is that it that's the whole that's literally there's no update
I'm depressed yeah I mean needless to say he gets obliterated in the conference oh yeah
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no kidding I hope so yeah this one's good ah yes the harlot coworker was secretly a
witch who brainwashed OOP into having an affair it's all that home wreckers fault it's that's
the most embarrassing thing that this guy is like yeah I'm just I'm just so sad and like
she forced me this therapist when they go in this therapist is gonna be like okay so you're
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you you did you did you you had sex with another person because you're sad and it's her fault
yeah okay perfect that makes perfect sense and she's like she's like wife if you want
to go ahead go through this door they'll help you but my wife made me so sad that I felt
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like I had no other option but to go somewhere else so let's talk about the fact that you
have no other option what does that really mean yeah I don't know you ever tried to go
for a run yeah have you ever gotten some vitamin D okay last comment on this please please
please as someone who's dealt with depression for 20 years I've never once had the symptom
of checks notes cheating on my spouse yes that's wild like that's not a I hope she dips
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I feel bad for people that are stuck in relationships with someone that's like all victim mentality
like it kind of sounds like she or she's like had a problem with him before though it's like
I don't want to hear it they just I don't know I'm sure there's been other things no
well yeah she's just like dude I don't have time you're a wet blanket dude I don't have
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time to like coddle you while you're telling me that you just ruined my heart like I wonder
what what the co-workers thinking I wonder if she's heartbroken like do you think she
fell in love with the guy probably not yeah she's just a hoe it was just sex it was literally
just sex for her but he's like crying so she actually did take advantage of it she's like
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oh so you're feeling really sad right now oh yes I am sad whoa that's all it works you
can do that to me yeah you can touch me I'm sad tell me more wait you guys aren't ready
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for this please please brace yourself I got depressed in my I don't think that's gonna
fly as an excuse OOP chose to have an affair depression doesn't make you do things the marriage
may well be over and it's all OOPs fall if that's what happens oh no he's like she's
totally trying to come up with anything to like get him off the hook yeah guys so who do we think
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now that we've heard all the stories who do we feel like is the worst person of 2024 let's vote
mine which one well both of them okay well the the catfishing his girlfriend was pretty bad
because he instantly hit her with like childhood trauma like you're traumatized little kid you
don't even understand I think mine is the worst person of 2024 the wife literally protects him
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she also did never wanted kids and he convinced her to do it and now he wants to cheat on her
and he's like feeling sorry for himself because he wants to do it so bad but if he does she'll leave
him yeah it's like what he's the worst yeah he is horrible yeah you win you are marley but yeah
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marley's was really good too I think because I can see myself more I'm not that I can relate to this
but because I am married and I am the girl I feel like more upset about the husband with yours I'm
like my mom would never do that but you that mom is horrible right she's terrible love is more
important than money true I'll give you I'll give it to you pregnant yeah she's just like that she's
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just a bullet she probably has no idea that he's thinking any of these things oh yeah she just
hasn't caught him yet all the dating apps no oh worst person of 2024 yeah and he's so casually
was just like yeah I'm like I'm even deleting like tinder like what did he say he was like yeah
yeah we're not getting this close to cheating like she's so lucky that I'm deleting it but before I
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do some she's so ugly she took that bullet that was shaped like a rock for me but she's so ugly
that was fun 2024 was a year full of chaos full of freaks we found the best one this week so
let us know which one you think is the fake and the worst and the worst 2024 and the best reader of
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stories just kidding don't make them feel bad I don't you know I don't even need to hear that so
just kidding guys well 2024 was fun thank you all for the support we're we're just gonna keep
making the content it's been it's been how long it's been five months six months yeah just just
plugging along we really appreciate all of you the podcast listeners the socials it's amazing
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you guys we are so grateful last thing because we forgot to do it in the beginning the fake of last
week which was our ho ho hold my bear was drum roll please was why why are you pointing at me
because it was Santa oh it was it was Preston you guys remember Preston oh climbing on the roof
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is Santa oh yes he was so glad yours was fake so weird he's so fake yeah it was it was fake
Tanner knew right away shout out yeah he called you so fast on it that's all right he won't get us
next time maybe all right love you guys happy new year see you next week see you on three one two three
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grinsies love you guys see you next week bye one click no pretending
And we're back.
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We're back, baby.
We are very back.
Come on now.
We're way back.
We're back.
We're forward.
We're here.
We're present.
We're ready.
We're on an incline.
Yeah.
We're just doing something.
Happy New Year.
Guys, happy New Year.
2025.
This is our first episode in 2025.
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We are recording on January 1st, 2025.
New Year's Day.
Very first day.
Very first day, baby.
And this episode's going to be fun because we're going to take a look at the very worst
human beings to exist in 2024.
Hopefully they're not in this room.
Ooh.
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Definitely not.
That's my step, Joe.
Just right here.
Got him on the phone.
Oh.
Oh.
On speed dial.
Oh.
Yeah.
So last week was fun.
We had the Goodman fam come through.
Dr. Goodman and Danielle Goodman.
Good girl aesthetics.
Follow all them.
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Yes.
They'll join us again.
They're family.
All right.
Well, this is going to be a fun episode.
2024.
Worst of 2024.
Let's jump right in.
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Who wants to lead us off, you?
Sure.
Let's do it.
Struggling to stay faithful and remain attracted to my wife, 28F, after we experienced a violent
attack together.
Not sure what to do.
I can't talk to anyone about this for obvious reasons.
I've even tried speaking to a therapist and they make me feel so low I haven't gone back
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since.
My wife and I have been together for six years, married for three.
We currently have a bundle of joy on the way and she's about five months along.
My wife was always on the fence about kids, but I was adamant about wanting them.
And now that it's becoming so real, I'm not sure anymore.
I feel like I've just been on autopilot and after spending this whole week buying baby
stuff, I need to figure it out.
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Last year, my wife and I were at the park relaxing like we do almost every weekend and
someone yelled at us for speaking in my native language, Korean.
My wife is trying to learn too because she's not Korean or Asian at all, but wants to only
speak Korean at home to make sure our family is fully bilingual and they don't lose their
culture.
We were practicing out loud and sharing a snack and this guy just walks up to us out
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of nowhere with wild racist BS.
He kicked our food and there was some arguing and while I was calling the police with my
back turned, he tried to hit me with a pretty large rock.
My wife jumped in between and ended up taking the full force of the hit, which literally
busted her forehead open and knocked her out cold for almost a minute.
I rushed my wife to the hospital and the guy ran off and was eventually caught by police
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a few weeks later.
My wife needed 14 stitches right across her face and had two black eyes and blood in them.
Her face was swollen beyond recognition for a few days too and when she fell, messed up
an old knee injury so when she got out of the hospital the next day half her face was
covered in bandages and she was limping.
But she was still cracking jokes in the ER.
After the bandages and stitches came out, she was told she would need to wait at least
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a year before having her scar surgically fixed or whatever treatments.
But now that the year has almost passed, I've started handing out her scheduling appointments
and such.
This entire time I've been struggling with remaining attracted to her, despite it but
didn't tell her, since I didn't want to be cruel.
She's now saying she doesn't think she wants to get anything done because she wants to
save the money for the baby.
I've offered to pay for half of it and she still hasn't really looked into having it
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done.
I've pushed her back, meeting my parents again because of this.
They live outside of our country hence why they haven't met yet.
I'm bringing her around my friends since it happened.
Another part of me is also just sorta mad she even did it.
I feel like half a man now and I've had to delete myself off dating apps before making
a mistake.
I've been channeling it all at the gym but every time I look at her I'm reminded of all
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those feelings.
She hasn't changed a bit besides the scar.
She's obviously handled it better than I did and somehow it's making me love her less.
This plus the pregnancy.
I don't even know what to do.
I thought about asking for a hall pass but I know without a doubt she will leave me.
I thought about taking care of my needs on the side so I could be the man she needs me
to be but I know she will eventually find out and she will hate me and make my life
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hell or leave me a single father and I will never hear from her again.
I just wish it had never happened but I really need some other perspective or opinion on
this.
Bruh.
Wow.
Oh my gosh.
I was like oh and then he just starts so casually like oh I just like bore me.
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She's like a blow for you dude.
Literally he could have been the freaking nasty face man.
If only she knew she's like oh I would have let him just hit you upside the head.
She sounds like a fantastic wife and she's pregnant with his child.
She's literally pregnant and gotten the way of a rock hitting this dude.
Right.
Even if she wasn't pregnant it's like he's the worst.
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He's the worst.
And I'm like I'm a little mad at her for getting in the way because that dude obviously had
it coming.
It gets just smoked.
Wow.
What a piece of work.
Yes.
And that poor woman.
One thing didn't make sense.
He said that it's been almost a year but she still wants to save the money for when the
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baby gets there and she was five months long when it happened.
Maybe they had another baby.
When she got clubbed by the stranger she was five months pregnant and then it's a year
later he's like and now it's almost time for her to start looking at getting her face fixed
but she says she still wants to save the money that she would spend on the baby.
Do we know for sure that she was pregnant during the attack?
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She was for sure.
Or is that just what she is now?
She might maybe that's yeah maybe she wasn't pregnant when they got attacked.
That makes more sense.
Okay well that's a little bit better.
I took it she was five months pregnant when she got when she just dove in front to save
her husband.
And he's been like on dating apps and stuff and then he'll just delete it when he gets
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too close to like actually.
I've had to constrain my soul.
I don't get why he says that he'll only pay for half of it.
If he's married just and you want it done pay for the whole thing.
So obviously it kind of seems like maybe he kind of doesn't want her to do it so that
he can leave her.
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Or he's just like they have this split money thing even though they're married.
I also think if you're not attracted to your wife you should try to find a way to either
overcome that or maybe separate because that you know that'd be really hard but the way
he's doing it is very terrible.
Is like terrible.
Yeah.
Like you can't just cheat on them.
Like you got to separate before you like are looking at other options.
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But he's even like poor me I can't do anything because he's saying he doesn't want to leave
her.
He doesn't want to be a single father.
So it's like what he's like she will hate me and make my life hell or leave me a single
father and I will never hear from her again.
And he's saying I just wish it had never happened which is he wished she never got the scar.
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And there's a comment by just some kind of thing that says imagine being that badly repulsed
by your partner because they got a scar defending you.
I'm like that's so bad.
It's terrible.
Like how bad is this scar going to be like that it really just ruined her whole appearance.
I'll tell you this.
It sounds to me like it's just a scapegoat.
Like he's probably the attraction issue probably goes way beyond the scar.
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And that's just he's just blaming it on that.
Because this guy sounds like a piece of trash anyway.
Yeah.
And to go back to your timeline you were kind of questioning.
P.M. me fancy beer said but five months ago in parentheses seven months post attack she
was attractive enough to make a baby with dot dot dot dot.
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So it's like okay.
So now you're not it.
So I think it has more to do with like she's pregnant and big and he probably is not she
her body's changing and maybe she's not filling it in the bedroom and like so he's being all
like yeah yeah I don't know.
There's probably a lot of factors.
There's probably so much.
Yeah.
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Just that.
Yeah.
But I get where Joe's coming from like it is kind of his like okay have a good escape
code.
Yeah.
Like I'll just I'll just yeah I'll just blame this whole experience.
He's just a terrible person and wants to cheat.
That is going to be tough to beat in terms of stories.
That guy is a piece of work.
That was good.
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Mine's pretty good.
That was good.
Love it.
That was great.
Thank you.
That could that could be an AI find though.
All right.
That's kind of what I was thinking with the whole timeline thing.
That got straightened out.
It's from am I the devil.
I'm just going to plug this now.
I could not decide between two stories.
So I'm giving you guys two this week.
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Well it's just I just had to time for everything.
I just had to I'm going to I'm going to do the slightly longer one now.
The shorter one's going to be later.
This was three days ago.
So almost into 2025.
Dang.
Am I overreacting after I found out my boyfriend's online friend group I became part of two
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years ago has been just him the whole time.
Oh no.
That's weird.
So I'll read the story and I'm going to read their text conversation.
That's how this sub works.
It's okay.
Yeah.
It's crazy.
I guess it should have been less oblivious but since a little before we started dating
in 2022 I was added to my boyfriend's three person Instagram group chat with what he explained
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were some of his closest online friends.
The two other accounts seemed like real people because they had real followers and comments
on their posts and drastically different aesthetics slash looks to them.
We eventually made a discord server for us and that alone was convincing enough since
multiple times we'd all be active at the same time.
We never voice chatted but I used to never voice chat either so I didn't think twice.
The group got closer though as more and more time passed since I was first added to their
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group chat.
In the last month we got together and planned a research trip to Hawaii for August.
In parentheses we live on the east coast of the US and we booked everything.
So imagine my surprise when I'm over at his house tonight and his computer is open and
I just want to log into my Google Docs when I accidentally stumble across first of all
follower bot sites and also him logged in and chatting with me as one of the individuals
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I thought I'd become close with.
I just got this sinking feeling.
I didn't jump to the idea that they could be fake either.
I was like maybe he just has their log in since they're all like so close and is way
too interested in their messages.
But then I noticed their only chats were the group chats and the server and the real kicker
was the email address it was signed up under was his backup email with his full name.
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I quite literally snooped until he got out of the shower and caught me which I'm not
saying was right of me but I couldn't help myself.
During my snooping I gradually became devastatingly confident he wasn't behind just one but both
accounts.
I've never seen his face so red and he just absolutely panicked and started shouting at
me to get out of his business.
I couldn't even form the right words to say to him.
In the end I just walked out of his apartment sobbing.
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It's very early in the morning I get that but this screenshot is what he has to say
and I'm starting to feel crazy.
Am I overreacting about my discovery?
So this is her.
She says I just want to know why.
When it finally came time for the Hawaii trip how are you going to explain that?
What were you thinking?
He says you know something I've noticed about you?
You can never just be calm and there always has to be an issue.
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I know you were raised in a volatile environment and still have to relearn a lot about healthy
relationship dynamics but it's like you thrive on chaos only.
And we were going to see Wicked tonight.
I guess there that goes.
Oh you cancelled our movie date.
And she says you can't be serious.
I deserve answers and I'm honestly so creeped out.
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Basically half of my life for the past two years has been a complete and total lie and
you were behind all of it.
He says and this is the end of the thread that we have.
Okay don't be dramatic.
You know this isn't a big deal.
You're just getting to harp on this and make a bigger issue.
That's crazy.
What a psycho.
Like that is the biggest narcissist.
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That is like.
Dude that's creepy.
Like what was she doing?
But what's the point?
Yeah like what did he get out of that?
He wanted her to maybe emotionally cheat on?
Like see if she would cheat on him.
But for two years?
Literally what is he getting out of that?
Is it like some weird kink that he's just like.
Yeah he's a catfish guy for sure.
He gets a adrenaline rush out of him.
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Imagine what other weird stuff he's doing on the internet.
Yeah exactly I was thinking that.
Like I wonder if he has any other catfish girlfriends.
I don't even know.
Like literally crazy.
Like did she break up with him?
So this is the most frustrating part.
This is three days ago.
So we may be able to revisit this but it's literally like everyone is just like.
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Everyone's just like leave this is crazy.
Like all this different stuff.
Showing up to Hawaii you're like what's up?
Yeah.
Yeah like.
Jose it's just you.
Hey what's up dude.
Oh yeah they're like yeah they both know showed us.
That's crazy.
I mean like I booked their flights for them too.
I thought I was being nice but like they're not even here.
And we would probably still buy a ticket for these fake people.
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He did.
He did.
No he didn't.
To a client that's what they were saying is that they booked I mean at least they had
everything planned.
We don't know that he did.
That would be like actually insane if he spent money.
Bro I'll be your friend.
Yeah like this poor girl.
I can't even fathom what this guy was trying to accomplish with this.
And they were on a discord server where apparently you can see who's online or not.
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And she said that I never thought more about this because we were all online at the same
time.
So this dude's like what multiple devices like.
Yeah.
Like what is he.
He's like.
Yeah really though.
Phone iPad computer.
But if they're together it's that's just crazy.
It's just a different level of like.
That's what you're doing bro.
Well the fact that like the motive is not.
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We don't know.
It's that we don't know the motive.
It is got to be something so dark so creepy and weird that like it's got to be something
bad that he like wants it.
What if he was planning the trip and he was like going to kill her or do something to
her and blame the two users.
He's a imaginary friend.
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Yeah.
The guy that it's just like roots back to his burner email address.
Which he's probably an idiot but like someone that does that is already an idiot.
No yeah that guy's sketch.
Yeah.
Like where were there any other red flags.
I mean if you're going to die but it's nice it might be in Hawaii.
Yeah murder me in Hawaii any day of the week.
Oh my gosh.
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Not like not immediately but like.
If I get to.
Let me live there for a week.
If I get to pick one of the 50 stays.
It's a good one.
Yeah.
That's poor girl.
He's so gaslighting.
Yeah he's just like.
Like you know the thing about you is.
I'm like.
Yeah.
The thing about me.
You want.
Me.
The thing about you.
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Well here's the problem.
We were going to see Wicked tonight so.
Like I'm pissed.
Yeah I'm pissed about that.
Yeah.
No I have to go by myself.
Because I don't want to.
I thought the four tickets already.
I literally like we already have our seats chosen.
Like.
And you're sitting next to Bobby.
Wait what did he say.
We already.
Guess guess guess guess that's out the window.
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Well fine.
Have you got another thing Wicked with you now.
No.
Why don't you hit up like Tom and Derek that are on the forum.
Yeah like yes are these friends men women.
So that was the other thing.
So she was getting close to one of the ones like it had to have been a woman.
That was my thought was that it said like I over the last six months or whatever like
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I've been getting closer with this one.
It's like.
Why did she say a girl though.
Then that's the other thing is like maybe maybe it was like this whole like major insecurity
thing where he was like trying to test her limits of like.
Yeah.
Where she would go.
Yeah.
Like kind of knew what buttons to press.
I mean obviously there's there's like seeds of trauma therapies type stuff in here because
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he was like yeah all your childhood trauma like you had a rough upbringing.
I don't know.
I wish we would have found out why he actually did it though rather than just flip it on
her because I would love to know like why would he do that.
No there's there's no.
What could anyone possibly say.
I don't think I would want to make make up friends and like text myself through.
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No it sounds terrible.
Yeah because you're normal.
Yeah.
He's not normal.
Should I 21 and go for it with my brother's 19 and girlfriend 19 F if she's giving me
all the signs.
Yeah.
It's a big no.
I'm on mobile.
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So sorry for the formatting.
This is a throwaway account.
I will call my brother C and my brother's girlfriend S. This is so messy.
I am pretty close with my brother but I honestly feel he doesn't deserve his girlfriend.
So my brother and his girlfriend have come to our grandma's for a week they have off.
They have been here for five days.
They won't leave for three more and it's killing me.
My little brother is not the best looking in the family.
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He's just not since he started seeing S. He's gone to the gym and bulked up a bit and changed
his hair and his eating habits.
Not because she forced him she loved him even when he was chubby.
He said he wanted to start working out and eating better to get into the same level of
attractiveness as her.
My best friend and I she is a girl and I both agreed beforehand that she is very good looking
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just from her pictures with my brother on social media and stuff.
S&C came to visit my grandmother and I was there because I'm currently living with her.
Not only is she ridiculously hot.
She's funny and smart too.
She's pre-med and is taking a lot of hard classes that S&C says she's breezing through.
She's the world's easiest person to talk to.
The first night she came to visit she was quiet as this was the first time meeting extended
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family for her.
The next day S&C had a mind grain and she wanted to stay home with him and take care
of him but I convinced her to go to the mall with me and S&C encouraged her to.
We spent the day at the mall together.
We played with puppies at a store and shopped a bit and got lunch.
I don't think I've ever gotten along with someone as well as I've gone along with
S. She is beautiful, witty and basically my ideal partner.
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I have quickly developed strong feelings for her.
Okay now this is where it gets really messy.
S&C was showing me some memes on his phone and accidentally swiped by a nude of hers.
He thought I wasn't looking at his phone but he did manage to see it.
I know this is really bad but when he got up to the go to the bathroom I unlocked his
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phone and went to look at it.
I couldn't help myself I've already mentioned that I think she's hot so I won't go into
detail about how I felt about the picture because it's probably obvious I felt so guilty
about it.
After this thing I was gonna say that was not obvious.
He's like oh my gosh the devil's making me on his phone.
I'm looking at his picture.
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I can't stop looking.
I feel so guilty.
After this incident I think people started noticing me becoming uncomfortable near her.
My brother, my mom and my grandma asked me about it.
Eventually S asked me if she had done anything to offend me and I said no.
I came to my senses and stopped acting like a douche.
I asked if she wanted to go to the grocery store with me.
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She said sure.
I thought it would just be the two of us but C tagged along as well.
We went to the grocery store together, went back and ended up driving to the city in the
afternoon.
She wanted to give away anything that might identify me, which is an hour from where we
live.
C fell asleep in the car and again it was S and me talking.
She ended up climbing from the back seat to the front to talk to me.
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We talked and joked the whole way into the city and I just knew something was there.
I did something stupid and I told her that I wished we'd met in high school.
And she replied that she thinks we would have been best friends.
Ouch.
However once we reached the city she was back being lovey-dovey with C. It sucked because
I wanted to hold her hand so bad.
I think they felt bad for me because yesterday was Valentine's Day and I don't have a girlfriend
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so they didn't kiss or anything.
They just looked at each other like they're in love.
My questions are the following.
I know she can tell that we have a good connection.
So should I go for it?
I really want to tell her my feelings this evening.
What's the best way to do that?
Thanks.
Oh my gosh.
Oh.
Yeah.
No.
That's my story.
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That I would.
It is different if it is like a best friend because you can cut them out of your life
forever.
Right.
When it's a sibling there is nothing you can do at that point.
Like that is ruining families for the rest of time.
At least for at least 10 years.
Just to throw an arbitrary number on it.
Like if it's love, if it's real love you're talking 10 years, men.
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Pretty bad.
Dude.
That's bad.
It's just scumbag.
He asked for advice.
What was the second question?
What should I do?
I really want to tell her my feelings this evening.
What's the best way to do that?
All right.
So here's what you're going to do.
You're going to let everyone get out of your car.
You're going to drive to the tallest cliff you can find and you're just going to go right
off it.
That's all I got.
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With a bear shoe?
No bear shoe?
Okay.
No prep.
You're going to get out all the ways that you messed up in the time you have.
Pretty bad.
That's bad.
She said we would have been best friends in high school.
So that's friend zoning immediately.
She did the right thing.
She probably is thinking nothing of it.
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Yeah.
She's like, oh, she's giving me all the signs, bruh.
She's just a good girl.
She's funny.
She just has a bunch of good qualities.
She wants to get along with a brother or mom.
Brother or mom.
Yeah.
Right.
Like, he would be vibing with them.
Like, I would not think anything of it.
She makes me feel special.
Like, okay, so that's not her telling you.
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I think you're a lot.
And I love that he's trying to say he's hotter than his brother.
Like, such older brother behavior.
Literally.
Literally.
It really is.
All right.
There's some whoop-de-doodle.
You're a creep.
That's the name.
You're a creep and need to back off.
Do not ever go look at someone's nudes without permission.
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She's your brother's girlfriend.
She hasn't said anything about liking you as anything more than a friend.
I dare you to tell her and your brother that you went through his phone to find that nude
pic of her.
Did dare.
Double dog dare.
Triple dog dare you did.
That hillbilly is going off a cliff.
I totally forgot I got to freaking nude.
That was so out of line.
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That sucks.
Like goes through the phone like I feel so violated and creeped out by the little brother.
Older brother.
Older brother.
I feel like makes it worse and like oh the little brother like oh he's just romanticizing
this whole but like it's older.
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Man.
Yeah.
Like you know better.
How old is the older brother?
It's like 24.
23 and the 19th of the younger.
The two young the girl and the younger brother.
He's he's a lowlife loser and he's to find a girl on his own.
And what's funny is like this guy's dumb.
He's ugly little brother and dude you're living with your grandma.
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I was gonna say.
Digging for your little brother's girlfriend's nudes.
You're disgusted.
You are trash.
You're trash.
Oh that's so gross and that girlfriend finds out.
I love he was like he said something about like I was super uncomfortable.
Like I was around and I was very not talking about super uncomfortable like when I was with
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everyone.
It's like he's just dying inside like.
Right.
Nobody knows his pain.
I've seen your nude and I'm in love with you and I think we should get married.
He's known her for what five days at this point.
Literally bursting up the seams.
Dude's a trip.
He's a terrible brother.
There's another funny.
What signs exactly from what you have written she's just trying to be nice to her boyfriend's
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brother.
Don't be a creep back off.
You're misinterpreting everything.
Yeah.
Amen.
Amen.
I like this girlfriend and I love it's just so sad like the younger brother has so much
trust in the older brother like yeah go with him to the mall.
Go ahead.
Sorry I don't feel good honey.
Like I don't want to keep you from having fun.
This guy seems like a gem.
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He probably has the best personality.
He's like wanting to like do better for his girlfriend.
Yes.
It's like so sweet.
He sounds amazing.
So that was the very first story.
Now he went against everybody's advice about I haven't even read it yet.
He went against everybody's advice about not telling them and there's a whole another story
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about how I think he did confess his love to her.
So I need to find it again because I just screen shot of it.
I didn't save her anything.
I'm going to look right now.
So we need to find it.
Yeah just research the title.
Yeah what's the title of Alan.
And read like should I 21 and go for it with my brother's 19 and girlfriend 19 if she's
giving me all the signs.
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OK so we have an update.
We have the update of this story.
We have to we have to go with it.
It's doing such a douche.
OK.
My brother is C and his girlfriend is S. So against Reddit and my better judgment I spoke
to my brother as you can imagine all hell broke loose.
The guilt was eating me up and I told him about the feelings I had for his girlfriend.
I also came clean about looking at her nudes and apologized.
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Wow.
This was about three years three hours ago.
My brother punched me in the face and busted my lip.
He went to our grandma and told her that he didn't feel comfortable with me in the house.
My poor grandma was so confused and C told her vaguely vaguely that I acted inappropriately
with S and violated her boundaries.
He went into S's room and asked her to pack her things so they could leave and find a hotel
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to stay in.
All I could hear was her saying what why what's wrong.
He took her and left to stay in Atlanta promising my grandma he'd call and explain when he
got there.
He just called her landline and they will be getting lunch tomorrow.
I received a text from S about a half hour ago.
I copy pasted it.
Honestly this is ridiculous that I even have to say this.
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You violated C's trust in my trust.
The pics weren't meant for your eyes.
I love your brother not you.
It's never going to happen.
You've ruined any possible friendship we could have had.
I'm not angry but I can't forgive this and I believe you need therapy.
Good luck.
I hope you get the help you need.
I am sitting here bawling in bed while my grandma knocks on the door.
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I'm sitting here bawling in bed while my grandma knocks on the door to ask what's wrong.
Reddit what do I do.
What are the steps to take to fix things with my brother.
You're not going to listen to us buddy.
How do I apologize to S. What do I tell my poor grandmother.
Thanks in advance.
I should have listened to your advice.
Wow.
That's pretty awesome.
What's wrong honey.
Grab a bat now.
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No.
No.
She broke my heart.
Slide the cookies under the door.
I love that.
I'm sitting here bawling.
I'm sitting here bawling.
You guys don't even know how sad I am.
So I didn't listen and.
What do I do.
I got punched in the face.
Update.
He hurt me.
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She's gone.
I'm sad.
No bokeh.
No bokeh but think about her like she that's so violating.
She's like I know you for four days and you're just like checking me out.
She's still handling it like a champ.
She's like I'm not even mad at you.
I just think you're like a disappointing loser.
Yeah.
Go get therapy.
Dude.
But honestly I'm so glad I thought it.
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I thought there was a small small possibility of like she.
Like it.
Was into it.
Was like it a little bit you know.
So I love this girl.
I love it.
I'm like all for the little brother.
You're disgusting and you're she's seeing it for what it clearly is like you need help
bro.
Okay but just to be devil's advocate the way this all played out was there even a way
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for her to be like not giving those vibes like you think that she would message him
and be like hey just so you know like I'm really sorry this all blew up this way.
Like you get what I'm saying like if she was giving him a little bit more of a green light
than we're saying she did.
Is there a possibility.
Like I feel like she's reacting the way that she has to no matter what I'm just and again
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she sounds awesome.
She I'm sure she is all about the little brother but if she was like a little flirtier with
him or like was maybe just crossing a little bit of those blurred lines would we know that
from her response.
I think she would have thought a little more to not stay in a hotel you know like I think
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the fact that she wants to distance and not see him anymore like like let's go stay in
a hotel let's not see your brother anymore.
It's just such a start it's such a violating thing it's like yeah I think the answer just
shows clearly on that older brother's reaction to everything though because he is not saying
like I thought she was giving me vibes like I thought she said this she said this if there
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was evidence to back up.
He knew he screwed up.
There's no question that he screwed up like yeah I don't think she crossed lines because
he would have been giving us every little thing like oh she like brushed my leg you
know like even if but like he was reading into stuff that wasn't there and so there
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would be more in what he said because he's trying to convince us like oh she wants it
too you know so I feel like he would have been like but there was nothing there so it
wasn't even like he couldn't even read into anything because there literally was nothing.
On the first post he did comment back just a little bit to some of those comments he
just said like because someone asked what were the signs exactly and he just said like when
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we would talk sometimes she would like nudge it like nudge him or like like touch his arm
or something and that's but that was it that's all it was that's a that's like mannerism
so it's like some people are just more like that yeah yeah like if Joe says oh whoa think
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you know like in the doctors and they hit your knee and you go like that yeah reflex test
I know that's what you're thinking of so this is from the subreddit entitled people it says
my mom stole my college fund to pay for my sister's wedding oh I 18m just found out my
mom drained the entire college fund my late dad left me to pay for my sister's wedding
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and honeymoon my dad passed away when I was 10 and one of the last things he did before
he died was set up a savings account for my college he always told me how important my
education was to him and my mom promised that she would honor his wishes growing up I worked
hard in school because I knew I had that safety net I got into my dream school last week and
I told my mom I needed access to the account for enrollment fees she froze she kept dodging
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the conversation and eventually I forced her to sit down and tell me what was going on
that's when she admitted she spent all the money over the last year to pay for my older
sister's extravagant wedding and her month long honeymoon in Europe when I asked her
why she said my sister deserved it because she'd gone through a rough divorce a few years
ago and this wedding was a fresh start I couldn't believe what I was hearing I asked her why
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she didn't talk to me first and her excuse was you're young you'll have time to figure
it out I thought maybe my sister didn't know where the money came from but when I confronted
her she admitted that she knew the entire time her response it's not like I forced her
to do it mom wanted to help me now I have no way to afford college my mom's solution is
for me to just take out loans like everyone else but that's not the point my dad worked
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hard and to set the money aside so I wouldn't have to worry about debt I feel completely
betrayed when I told some of my relatives about what happened my mom flipped out and
accused me of airing out family business to make her look bad she said I was being selfish
and that family helps family apparently I'm ruining the family by being upset but how
is it not selfish to take money meant for my education without asking me I don't even
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know what to do now my mom says I should just get over it but I can't look at her or my
sister the same way anymore that mom sucks she's not a mom that's not a mom she's a
great mom for the divorce remarried daughter right yeah awesome mom oh I'm livid I know
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that sucks you get into your dream school and just everything falls apart can you imagine
having a dream school I never had one okay wait this is okay this is just now reminding
me of that office episode where Michael Scott when he like talks for Scott or Scott's thoughts
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yeah and he promises those promises these kids in like kindergarten that he would pay
for their college and then it gets to that point and he's like I can't he's like I hear
some bucks I think I'm sorry for the books or something he paid for one kid's books but
he didn't write I don't think you wrote the checks correctly it's like a thousand dollars
and he's like over the whole time and he's like no like per semester and he's like I
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thought I'd be a millionaire by this time in my life his dad passed away at 10 and like
he was so grateful and so excited for his dream school he knew he had the account hey mom
I'm ready I'm ready to get enrolled can I get it like hello I did all of this no honey
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and that's probably like kind of like his connection with his dad a little bit yeah for sure you
know to like feel like that's like he's still being it together yeah that's that makes me
sad oh I'm so that mom sucks I know I'm not the fake you better be the fake cuz if you're
not I'm gonna cry that is horrible there is an update just like what he did or whatever
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but says after my original post I confronted my mom again but she doubled down saying that
she did what was best for the family that my dad would have wanted it I couldn't argue
anymore so I reached out to my dad's side of the family they were furious and now are
helping me explore legal options as my aunt thinks my mom might have violated a trust
agreement by using the money for anything other than my education oh as for my sister
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she admitted she knew where the money came from but claimed it wasn't her fault that
she didn't ask for it she offered to help pay for my college but I don't trust her to
follow through especially since she's still flaunting her dream wedding online now I'm
focused on scholarships part-time jobs and moving out as soon as I can while it hurts
I'm learning to rely on myself and my dad's side of the family who's been incredibly supportive
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oh I literally have had the chills that whole story so sad it's so sad I'm trying to get
like multiple part-time jobs and oh he's a stud don't move out stay stay where you
can live for free everything I don't know I'd want to get the frick out too I would not
forgive my mom for that I know that yeah it's hard eat her food though oh like cuz what
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sucks is like it's like they were like going down and like something bad was happening
and they had to spend the money yes because it was like a crisis she's going bankrupt
or something I have cancer yeah I have to pay like you know like some just something crazy
but like it's for something that does not matter no you don't even remember it's your
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second marriage I don't know I don't remember mine and Marley's like there's a lot of things
I forgot yeah I'm glad our wedding was chill yeah you know yeah I don't know I just think
that's something that's not a necessity it's really well and it's your second one like
this one's probably not gonna last either girl sorry and if you're gonna want to go to here's
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the thing it's your second marriage at this point you're a full-blown adult yeah you want
to go to Europe for a month you better be freaking paying for it hopefully the the daughter's
new husband is gonna be able to pay to put her in a home and all that stuff cuz cuz
OP is not gonna be taking care her let's go change your diapers yeah karma's coming for
her for sure story number two I couldn't leave this one alone this guy this came from relationship
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advice but more recently it was on am I the devil quote manipulated unquote into cheating
on my wife I 28m was manipulated into cheating on my wife 28f how do we move forward through
our marriage hey reddit I'm going through a tough time in my marriage it all started
because recently I entered a depression my wife and I both have very demanding jobs recently
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I had a new project that had me working longer hours and that is what started my depression
now going through my depression I started confiding in my coworker about how I was feeling
I thought I could trust her as a friend but she knew I was in a vulnerable state she took
advantage of my state and this led to an affair my wife found out and we are going
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to counseling Monday but this month our marriage is on the ropes I've been trying to get her
to understand my depression I've been trying to get her to understand my depression and
how low my mental health was but she doesn't want to hear it she's the one to hear it I
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was crying the next minute she was going to say it's not my fault oh it was so good
she could manage with me is that it that's the whole that's literally there's no update
I'm depressed yeah I mean needless to say he gets obliterated in the conference oh yeah
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no kidding I hope so yeah this one's good ah yes the harlot coworker was secretly a
witch who brainwashed OOP into having an affair it's all that home wreckers fault it's that's
the most embarrassing thing that this guy is like yeah I'm just I'm just so sad and like
she forced me this therapist when they go in this therapist is gonna be like okay so you're
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you you did you did you you had sex with another person because you're sad and it's her fault
yeah okay perfect that makes perfect sense and she's like she's like wife if you want
to go ahead go through this door they'll help you but my wife made me so sad that I felt
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like I had no other option but to go somewhere else so let's talk about the fact that you
have no other option what does that really mean yeah I don't know you ever tried to go
for a run yeah have you ever gotten some vitamin D okay last comment on this please please
please as someone who's dealt with depression for 20 years I've never once had the symptom
of checks notes cheating on my spouse yes that's wild like that's not a I hope she dips
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I feel bad for people that are stuck in relationships with someone that's like all victim mentality
like it kind of sounds like she or she's like had a problem with him before though it's like
I don't want to hear it they just I don't know I'm sure there's been other things no
well yeah she's just like dude I don't have time you're a wet blanket dude I don't have
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time to like coddle you while you're telling me that you just ruined my heart like I wonder
what what the co-workers thinking I wonder if she's heartbroken like do you think she
fell in love with the guy probably not yeah she's just a hoe it was just sex it was literally
just sex for her but he's like crying so she actually did take advantage of it she's like
(40:54):
oh so you're feeling really sad right now oh yes I am sad whoa that's all it works you
can do that to me yeah you can touch me I'm sad tell me more wait you guys aren't ready
(41:25):
for this please please brace yourself I got depressed in my I don't think that's gonna
fly as an excuse OOP chose to have an affair depression doesn't make you do things the marriage
may well be over and it's all OOPs fall if that's what happens oh no he's like she's
totally trying to come up with anything to like get him off the hook yeah guys so who do we think
(41:48):
now that we've heard all the stories who do we feel like is the worst person of 2024 let's vote
mine which one well both of them okay well the the catfishing his girlfriend was pretty bad
because he instantly hit her with like childhood trauma like you're traumatized little kid you
don't even understand I think mine is the worst person of 2024 the wife literally protects him
(42:16):
she also did never wanted kids and he convinced her to do it and now he wants to cheat on her
and he's like feeling sorry for himself because he wants to do it so bad but if he does she'll leave
him yeah it's like what he's the worst yeah he is horrible yeah you win you are marley but yeah
(42:39):
marley's was really good too I think because I can see myself more I'm not that I can relate to this
but because I am married and I am the girl I feel like more upset about the husband with yours I'm
like my mom would never do that but you that mom is horrible right she's terrible love is more
important than money true I'll give you I'll give it to you pregnant yeah she's just like that she's
(43:04):
just a bullet she probably has no idea that he's thinking any of these things oh yeah she just
hasn't caught him yet all the dating apps no oh worst person of 2024 yeah and he's so casually
was just like yeah I'm like I'm even deleting like tinder like what did he say he was like yeah
yeah we're not getting this close to cheating like she's so lucky that I'm deleting it but before I
(43:27):
do some she's so ugly she took that bullet that was shaped like a rock for me but she's so ugly
that was fun 2024 was a year full of chaos full of freaks we found the best one this week so
let us know which one you think is the fake and the worst and the worst 2024 and the best reader of
(43:51):
stories just kidding don't make them feel bad I don't you know I don't even need to hear that so
just kidding guys well 2024 was fun thank you all for the support we're we're just gonna keep
making the content it's been it's been how long it's been five months six months yeah just just
plugging along we really appreciate all of you the podcast listeners the socials it's amazing
(44:15):
you guys we are so grateful last thing because we forgot to do it in the beginning the fake of last
week which was our ho ho hold my bear was drum roll please was why why are you pointing at me
because it was Santa oh it was it was Preston you guys remember Preston oh climbing on the roof
(44:37):
is Santa oh yes he was so glad yours was fake so weird he's so fake yeah it was it was fake
Tanner knew right away shout out yeah he called you so fast on it that's all right he won't get us
next time maybe all right love you guys happy new year see you next week see you on three one two three
(45:00):
grinsies love you guys see you next week bye one click no pretending
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