Conquer Your Fear of Water

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Speaker 1 (00:22):
Hi, everyone, how are you welcome?

Speaker 2 (00:24):
To Episode eighteen at the Inventor Smart Community for our
Inventor Spotlight, we're going to bring in miss Melon Dash
in just a moment, just wanted to say hello, Welcome, Welcome.
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Speaker 1 (01:33):
We are welcoming you.

Speaker 2 (01:34):
So hello, Miss Melan Dash. Welcome to Inventor Spotlight, episode eighteen.
We're happy to have you.

Speaker 3 (01:43):
Thank you, nice to be here.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
Good and where are you streaming in from?

Speaker 3 (01:47):
Madam Sarasota, Florida.

Speaker 1 (01:49):
Oh, you're in Florida. Wonderful.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
And I just moved into a house with a pool
in the background. I mentioned that earlier before we got on,
so I know Florida is one of those states where
every other household has a pool. I live in Illinois,
just outside of Saint Louis, so it's not as common
here as it is in the Southern States. So which

(02:14):
is interesting to me that I was talking about the
pool because you have such a cool product about people
that maybe are intimidated by the pool for various of reasons.
Maybe they didn't learn when they were growing up, or
they just have fears, or for like I said, various
of reasons.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
You'll know more why than I do.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
So you've invented this cool product, and I think a
very long time ago. So I'm just going to kind
of let you take it from there. You are a
member of our community. I know you've worked with Brian,
and we're just happy to have you here. And I've
watched all your videos and stuff, and I'm really curious
of how this came about, why it came about, and
kind of what you're doing with it today.

Speaker 3 (02:54):
Thank you. Well, you're right. Half of the adults in
the United States can't swim, and the reason they can't
swim is because they're afraid. And people don't want to
say they're afraid. They don't want to go to swimming
lessons and say I'm terrified in water. Show me what
I need to do to overcome my fear. They just
say I want to learn to swim. So I began

(03:16):
a swimming school in nineteen eighty three, which is forty
two years ago, and I call it Swimming for Adults
Afraid in water. So people could identify themselves in our
title and say I need that. And I didn't know
I was an inventor. Then I invented a system for learning,
which I'll talk about in a minute, I guess. But

(03:39):
that is the most exciting thing I've done, and I've
built an entire career about it. But the first thing
that I think I want to talk about is what
happens when people panic. When people are completely in control
and present, they are in their bodies, you know, we

(03:59):
say there. Everybody is a non physical being in a
physical body. So when we're in control, we're in our bodies,
the non physical is in the physical. But when we panic,
or when we sleep, or when we daydream, the non
physical leaves the body. And it's fine when we're daydreaming

(04:22):
and when we're sleeping, but when we're in deep water
and we're afraid, it's not fine. And that's when people
get really uncomfortable. I mean they won't even go of course.
So this movement of the non physical part of ourselves
out of our bodies is panic, and that is in
this diagram that goes from the first circle to the fifth,

(04:46):
and that's that's the other one that's learning. We want
the Yeah. This diagram is a picture of what we
look like when we go from calm to panic. The
leftmost circle is when we're calm, when we're in in
our bodies. That is centered, rounded, cool, common, collected, in control, comfortable,

(05:08):
And as we go to the right we lose control
more and more as we leave our bodies. The second
one is nervous, where we say people are are we
in the knees or they have cold feet. The third
one is butterflies in our stomach or not in our stomach.
That's when you're frustrated or you're not having fun anymore

(05:28):
and you're just doing get me out of here. The
fourth circle is terrified panic we say in our every
day language, we say paralyzed by fear or scared stiff
because at this point we've left so far that we
can't move our limbs anymore. And then the fifth circle
is panic, lost it, gone out to lunch, not home,

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freaked out And we all go through these stages when
we lose it, when we panic. And if we make
the goal of swimming lessons to be in the first
circle all the time, where you're where you're comfortable and calm,
then it doesn't matter what we present to you, you'll
be able to learn it. And if teachers knew this

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and they would make the goal comfort rather than skills,
and when people are comfortable, they can learn the skills.
Does that make sing?

Speaker 2 (06:23):
I just got to jump in because just that whole graphic,
it looks like that would just apply to so many therapeutic.

Speaker 1 (06:33):
Issues. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
I just the representation of this image is speaking to
me as well, because I understand that as energy versus
a physical right that's ad a wholeness, and there is
a feeling that you get in your lower extremities, right
that fight or flight type feeling. And then you're moving
the image up to where you feel a little more
tightness in your chest and the upper extremities, and then

(06:57):
you're going up to that throat kind of area where
you get that feeling, you know, and now you're also
representing that panic in the heart the chest. As I'm
crossing over this visual, I just think it's brilliant how
this has laid out and how you've just explained this.
I think this is going to speak to a lot

(07:18):
of people, So thank you for that.

Speaker 3 (07:20):
I think it's brilliant. Really, you're welcome, Thank you. It
does apply to any fear and any time we panic.
It's certainly not limited to swimming. Sure, this development, this
I don't know if you can call it an invention
or not. This diagram, this discovery, whatever it is, is
applicable in a vast number of places. And if you

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flip it, if you put the circles in the other direction,
and maybe we can have that image that is what
learning looks like when we go from I have no
idea how to do it to. I can see it,
but I can't do it to. Sometimes I can do
it and sometimes I can't. I almost have it down,
and I've got it down. This is what we look

(08:05):
like when we come down into our bodies, to be
completely present and in control of what our bodies are doing.
We've learned it.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
Yeah, this is really smart.

Speaker 2 (08:13):
This is a great visual And I think, because you know,
I'm an energy kind of worker myself, so I identify
with this.

Speaker 1 (08:21):
But I think even if you're if you're not in that.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
Conscious awareness, you're still having the human experience. So your
body and your inner vibe is still going to respond
in this diagram form, whether you're conscious of it.

Speaker 3 (08:36):
Or not exactly. Okay. So when teachers know this, they
can use it and they can say, okay, well, I
have this student who has math anxiety. I know that
she is in the fourth circle when she steps into
the classroom. I know that she can't learn in the
fourth circle. I might as well not talk about algebra.

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I need to talk about what would make her feel
comfortable right now and feel safe. And when the student
is back down in the first circle, then she's ready
to listen to the next thing.

Speaker 2 (09:09):
And again, when you're talking about fears, all those triggers
that you feel inside of your body, that's universal human triggers, right.

Speaker 1 (09:19):
So, and I.

Speaker 2 (09:20):
Also wanted to circle back around. You said something how
people that a fear of swimming will come to you
and say I want to learn how to swim. But
really that's not it. They don't want to learn how
to swim. They want to just learn how to get
in the water. And so let's pick back up there.

Speaker 3 (09:37):
Yes, yeah, they do want to know how to get
in the water. They at first, forty years ago, they
were thinking that they wanted to know how to do
strokes and swim okay, And I didn't know there was
a difference. It was still too early for me in
my awareness of all this, but I knew they had
to be in their bodies first. So it took about

(09:58):
ten years or so of teaching people to be in
their bodies until they became consistently comfortable in deep water
even though they didn't know strokes. And they would say
I can swim now, And at first I said, I thought,
what do you mean you can swim? You're in deep water,

(10:19):
but you're not doing any strokes. And then I realized
they can swim, they're safe, they can swim even though
they don't know strokes. Learning to swim and learning strokes
are two different things. And that was a light bulb
and I'm still trying to bring that to the Red
Cross and the why to say, Look, we can make
people safe in deep water long before they learned strokes.

(10:41):
In fact, that it's not about strokes at all. Strokes
don't make people safe. It's learning how to be in
your body and be in control and just be able
to rest in deep water that makes you safe. So
this has really vast implications.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
And so where did this originate from? I mean, I
know you're going back you said to the eighties, which
doesn't seem like that long ago, to be honest, Where
did this kind of originate from?

Speaker 1 (11:10):
What's your background?

Speaker 3 (11:11):
It's a story my background. I've always been a swimmer,
a competitive swimmer. When I was in college, I would
swim in the nationals and then the regionals, and I
would get to the regionals and I'd swim good times,
my best times, and I'd get to the Nationals and
I wouldn't swim as fast and you're supposed to swim

(11:32):
faster at the late the last meat of the year,
and you know, when you reached your tapered swimming state.
And I said to my coach, why do I Every
year I swim better at the regionals than at the Nationals.
And she and I said, I'm the one who said
this has got to be a mental thing. What can
I read? Where should I go to find out about this?

(11:52):
And she told me of two books to read, The
Inner Game of Tennis and Freedom to Learn, And the
Inner Game of Tennis was really about mindfulness, about being present.
And I said, that is the problem. I am not
all there at the Nationals. I'm standing next to Olympians
on the blocks. I'm thinking, I can't compete with that person.

(12:16):
She's going to beat me by a half a lap.
You know why am I going to try? And so
it was hurting my competition. It was hurting my performance.
So anyway, when I started my swim school, I said, well,
how does fear work? Because it was fear that was
keeping me from doing my best. And I was I

(12:38):
was teaching classes for adults who are afraid in water.
I asked this question, and a few days later I
was sitting in my recliner daydreaming, and I was looking
out the window and the first three circles showed up
in my window, and I said, oh, that is the

(12:59):
answer to my question. It's not the whole answer, but
it's part of the answer. And I forgot about it.
And a couple days later, I was sitting in my
recliner daydreaming again, and the other two circles showed up
in my window, and I knew I had the rest
of the answer. And I sat down and drew what
I'd seen and asked what words went with them with

(13:22):
the circles, and I got them. And I've used it
every single day and minute since then. I apply it
to myself. I feel like this is what I came
to learn in my life, how to stay in my body.
I'm in my body in the water. But I have
used it for every single lesson, you know, probably millions

(13:43):
of lessons by now, with six thousand adult students and
all the lessons they take. It never fails. I mean,
who is a spirit that doesn't have a body that
you know, it's brilliant.

Speaker 2 (13:56):
I'm just captivated by it because I think it the
miracle swimming in the fear and overcome that of water.
I mean, all this makes sense, but it just applies
to so much even as an inventor. You know, oh
my god, I mean, sign me up for the self
doubt or I can't have a product on the shelf,

(14:17):
or you know, I get this pain in my throat,
my stomach, my all of it, like I just paralyzed.

Speaker 1 (14:22):
Right at times, of course, we get past that. We
move forward.

Speaker 2 (14:26):
You know, we wouldn't be where we are if we
held in that fear. But I just I still love
this diagram. I love the way you're teaching it. But
you've invented a product to aid people that have that
fear of swimming water deep water, and I think this
crosses over too. But because I'm gonna tell you why
in a second, I'll let you tell me more about that.

Speaker 3 (14:49):
Okay, during COVID, we couldn't get within six feet of
our students to keep them from drifting away from the
wall when they wanted to let go or to let
go in deep water. So after a few months of
having no income and thinking I got to do something.
There must be a way to make people feel safe,
I thought of the float bar, and this became our

(15:10):
learned to Float station or personal learn to Float station
and that is a frame of PBC pipe and maybe
that can come up on the screen of a place
where you can walk up to this bar walk up bar,
and you are attached to it with this belt that

(15:32):
goes around your waist and a white anchor this loop
that attaches to the float bar, and then the blue
strap is a extender that lets you adjust your distance
from the bar, and if you're attached to this, then
you can hold onto the bar. This is after you've

(15:52):
learned to put your face in and you're perfectly happy
putting your face in the water and opening your eyes
and having your ears in the water and stuff. That's
another set of steps. But once you're comfortable with those
things and you want to feel the water holding you up,
and you want to learn that you float, whether it's
on your front or on your back, you come up
to this hold onto the bar and you adjust the distance.

(16:14):
And then when you have felt the water holding you up,
you know it's the water holding you up and not
your hands. Then people will just let their hands free
and the water. They'll let their hands slide off and
they know they won't drift away because they're connected and
they feel themselves floating for the very first time. And

(16:35):
we did this in the pool we were teaching in
a hotel pool. We took three or four of these
to the pool and people learn to float, and we
could be three yards away and just spot them and
make sure they were going slowly and so forth, and
they learned to float and what we call on floating
getting up from a float.

Speaker 2 (16:55):
Because even from so because your main goal obviously is adult, right,
so even you know, I vaguely remember swimming lessons when
I was a kid, but I think that you know,
obviously that's part of the first steps, is getting and
putting your face down, getting comfortable floating, floating, then you.

Speaker 1 (17:14):
Kind of move on to the other things.

Speaker 2 (17:16):
So you're taking it back to really step one for
these adults to be able to get into the water
and to attach themselves to something so they realize they
are floating, but they've got that security to hold on
to the rail and they're attached to the unit, so
they're not going to drift off right, right, even drift

(17:36):
off to the deeper end of the pool, which is
a psychological thing as well versus the shallower end.

Speaker 1 (17:42):
Exactly, is that right?

Speaker 2 (17:44):
So you also have a a prior to the unit
goes inside the pool. You have something that attaches to
the side of the pool.

Speaker 3 (17:52):
Yes, we well, this is a custom fit for a
float bar. When we go to a hotel and we
don't want to take up a lot of space because
there are hotel guests in the pool, we don't want
to put float bars on the bottom of the pool
in the shallow end. We have retrofitted these float bars
to the wall and then we just take up a
little bit of space. And these work well in the

(18:14):
deep end because we don't I have made one that
was like a jungle gym to put in the deep end,
which people love. But for a hotel pool, we do
this and this. So this man is attached with a
very long tether. He wanted to experiment being out in
the middle of the deep end, so he gave him
a long tether and he's really able to experiment and

(18:35):
find out. Oh my god, I always thought i'd stink
to the bottom. Here I am out here in control,
having fun, and I'm safe if I if something happens,
I can pull myself back with a tether.

Speaker 1 (18:46):
Again. That's why I love inventors, I really do.

Speaker 2 (18:49):
It is always a very simple solution to a very
big problem, right it is. And you know I've you know,
I'm a little bit of a water baby. I lived
in flo I go to the beach, and clearly now
I have a backyard pool, and I found that when
I floated in the pool on my floating sometimes I don't.

Speaker 1 (19:10):
Want to be drifting away.

Speaker 2 (19:12):
And I've actually thought about, God, I wish I had
something to attach to my floating, So you know, you
may have a buyer here, just and I'll figure out
how to attach it, just so I'm not floating. I
like to be where I want to be, right by
where my radio is or my phone or whatever it is,
on to the side of the pool.

Speaker 1 (19:32):
But moreover, I.

Speaker 2 (19:33):
Just think, how many students have you had that have
you that you think you've gotten into a point where
they're comfortable getting into the water.

Speaker 1 (19:42):
I mean, you do God's work here.

Speaker 3 (19:44):
Yeah, thank you. There have been over six thousand who
have gone through our program between me and my licensees,
and they are all at different stages because it takes
usually coming to Florida for a week, and not a
everybody can do that or afford that, so they come
for a week and they go home and they're astonished

(20:05):
with their progress, but swimming has never been on their
calendar before, so they don't follow up as much as
they want to. In a year or two later, they
come back and take the next step. So it's a
long process unless they really go home and play in
the water.

Speaker 2 (20:21):
Why people want to learn how to do this? Do
you think it's just a natural feeling of being floatless
or lifeless like in the water, or the weightless feeling
of it, or is it just that desire to kind
of fit in as in a community or cultures or
whatever it is. You, Oh, we're going swim, we're going

(20:41):
the late, we're on the beach, you know, is it
all of that combined or you know, because to me,
when I'm in a body of water, to me, it's
it's just healing, it's soothing, it's so I wonder if
that's an element too for people that they're like, just
I just want to feel that weightlessness of being in
the water. Or is it just really also releasing the fear.

Speaker 3 (21:04):
It's about fear. I mean, they are not thinking about
the wonderful aspects of floating because they haven't ever felt
themselves float for the most part, but most of them
are afraid in shallow water. They haven't floated. It doesn't
matter what level of fear people have. If they have
any fear, we can get them over it. And we

(21:26):
want them to start at the beginning because we know
that they don't. They're not convinced that they float, that
their water holds them up, and we know they're not
convinced they can stay in control when they want to.
They need to learn the five circles so they can
keep themselves right here. But the answer to your question
is that it's arranged. Some people have just always felt
that they they're drawn to swimming. They've always wanted to

(21:48):
learn to swim. I have an eighty year old man
who says, I just always wanted to learn to swim.
I don't know why I always wanted it. And then
a lot most people want to join in with their family,
their kids and their grandkids, mostly grandkids. By the time
they come to class, they've already missed the opportunity with
their kids. Wish they hadn't hid it from their kids

(22:09):
that they were afraid, or you know, their wife or
their husband went into the water with the kids and
they couldn't. They would always make up an excuse, I'll
take care of the sandwiches, that sort of thing. Or
people want to use it for exercise, or they've always
loved the water and they love being in but not
over their head, and they want to be able to
swim out to the raft or tread water in the

(22:29):
deep end and chat with their friends.

Speaker 2 (22:33):
Yeah, and I think that's something that you know, and
I'm not saying I'm an avid swimmer. You know, I
wouldn't swim the ocean, you know, I'll go up to
my knees if I'm like, especially in the ocean, But
I don't have a fear of getting in the water
or anything like that. So as you're telling all this,
I just there's a sense of sadness that came over

(22:54):
me for these people that are missing out on such
an amazing sensation feeling activities and all that. And I
just think it's incredible to you know, to come up
with this program and these products and attachments and tools.

Speaker 1 (23:11):
I think it's really smart. You know, I don't know
why it hasn't been done.

Speaker 2 (23:15):
I'm sure there's certain things for younger people, but for adults,
this is a really big deal.

Speaker 3 (23:21):
I don't think it's been done for younger people either.
And when I first got this patent, I was almost
embarrassed to tell people that I got a patent for it,
because I thought, oh, this is so obvious. Of course
people have done this. They're you know, for all of history.
They take a rope and they attach it to a
pillar of a tree or.

Speaker 1 (23:41):
Something, or a sign.

Speaker 3 (23:44):
But people won't go to the pool and do that.
So when I made it into a thing that's branded
and it says learn to float, tether on and stuff
like that, so that it's a thing that is a
legitimate product you can buy, I'm just hoping that people
will say, oh, yeah, I saw that at the pool.
It's okay if I go to the pool with one myself.

Speaker 1 (24:02):
Well, and I think too.

Speaker 2 (24:03):
It goes back to that fear of something that comes
so natural to many people, and it's that embarrassment, humiliation fear.
Like you said, you make up excuses. Oh well, i'll
stay up here with the kids. I got to run
back to the car. You guys, go ahead, whatever it is.
And then it's like you said, bringing something, but if
you're branding it is, you know, this is more common

(24:26):
and safer, and like I said, if you really want it,
it's available to you.

Speaker 3 (24:32):
Yes, And people have started to say, you know, I
want to use this for kids. My kid can't swim
all the way across the pool, but if I put
this in the pool, they can stop halfway and rest
and then swim the rest of the way.

Speaker 1 (24:45):
And feel that security of that bar.

Speaker 3 (24:48):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (24:48):
So you've also written a few books on this topic.

Speaker 3 (24:53):
Yes, I have this book. Conquer Your Fear of Water
is the first book I wrote.

Speaker 1 (25:00):
And this has a great cover, fantastic.

Speaker 3 (25:04):
Yeah, every single step that somebody needs, including the five circles,
because you can't overcome your fear without that. I mean,
it takes forever. If you don't know that.

Speaker 2 (25:13):
Okay, where can I Where can we find that book out?
Is it on Amazon?

Speaker 3 (25:17):
It's at Amazon? Yep, the book is at Amazon. The
other one is at Barnes and Noble.

Speaker 1 (25:23):
Nice.

Speaker 2 (25:24):
Well then you and do you have a website where
also people can purchase from you?

Speaker 3 (25:29):
Sure? Yeah. Miracle Swimming dot com is my website.

Speaker 1 (25:32):
Miracleswimming dot com.

Speaker 3 (25:33):
Okay, and I also co wrote a book with one
of my licensees about Overcoming your Fear of the triathlon. Swim,
Conquer your fear of the triathon swim. I don't have
those are out right now, but that is the.

Speaker 1 (25:47):
Is there sold out right now?

Speaker 3 (25:48):
Yeah? Well really for me in my office, they are, Yeah, okay,
they it's the exact same message, but it's to try
athletes who are a little different, you, a little bit
different message. Sure, and I knew that book had to
be written, and when she said let's write it, we
did it. And it's it's a great it's I think

(26:09):
they're both great myself.

Speaker 2 (26:12):
So where can we can we also find the tether
equipment and the polls. You have a package a bundle
that you sell the whole kit, is that right?

Speaker 1 (26:22):
Yes, and that you teach this whole system.

Speaker 3 (26:25):
Yes, the whole system. The whole kit and kaboodle, the
floot bar, the tether, the video, the podcast, the paperback
book and the ebook are one hundred and ninety nine
dollars and we sell that at miracleswimming dot com.

Speaker 2 (26:40):
Miracleswimming dot com two hundred bocks. You give the whole
package everything that you need. I think this is really
a great deal because you're going to teach that psychological
steps of fear as well.

Speaker 1 (26:53):
And this is a great gift for somebody.

Speaker 3 (26:56):
It is, It's amazing. But the thing about the gift
idea is I mean, I don't want to say, don't
get it as a gift, but people have to be ready.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
Sure if you have to know your receiver, like you
have to know your people if you're going to buy
them as a gift.

Speaker 3 (27:13):
Right.

Speaker 1 (27:14):
Yes, So you're an inventor. How long have you been?

Speaker 2 (27:19):
Well, you've said you've invented this product in the eighties.
You didn't even realize it. Yeah, what are you doing today?
Along with Miracle Swimming school for adults, you're still active
teaching classes?

Speaker 1 (27:32):
I'm assuming yes, yes.

Speaker 3 (27:36):
Well, you know, I I never thought of myself as
an inventor, and I only started maybe two months ago
saying that word or putting it at LinkedIn after my name,
and I thought, you know, some of my friends are
going to say, oh, jeez, you know they're going to again, right,
But it's I have to That's one of the great

(27:58):
things about being in the Inventor's Club, inventor smart. You know,
I'm with other people who know they've invented something and
who are okay with being an inventor, and they can
come out of a closet as an inventor.

Speaker 2 (28:08):
Yes, yes, you have me a little almost a little
teary eyed because I remember the first time someone told
me I was an inventor, and like he told me, Sam,
you're an inventor. I'm like, this is just and he's like, no,
you're you're an inventor and you need to start identifying
and calling yourself an inventor. And that was that was

(28:29):
a big talk about fear too, right that circle. You
know that that kind of it helped, you know, push
me a little bit further having somebody else identified to
me as an inventor first, then I accepted the term
myself and then.

Speaker 1 (28:44):
You know, the sky is the limit.

Speaker 2 (28:45):
Really, I mean, especially at the Inventor Smart community, there
are so many of us and we really a lot
of us have become friends. We're supporting one another, and
I think what Brian has done to to bring that
collective energy together was just really really smart. No one's
in competition. Everybody's just like where'd you get that? Or

(29:06):
who did you contact? The resources and the trusted resources
to me is most important because man, it's a it's
a mess out there in this in this Inventor World
with you know, I'm not saying bad actors or anything
like that.

Speaker 1 (29:23):
It's just, you know, it gets confusing.

Speaker 2 (29:26):
There's a lot of noise out there, so we say
that a lot in this podcast. You've got to find
where your trusted sources are. And I met Brian probably
seven years ago, and I've been hanging around with him
ever since because I think he's just so smart and
so genuine and has really put together a really cool
community like yourself.

Speaker 1 (29:46):
So I'm so happy that you're with us.

Speaker 2 (29:48):
So all right now that you've identified yourself as an
inventor the last eight weeks, I don't know, I don't
know where you know, I don't know what.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
I just wasn't ready. I love that about you. What
are you working on now? Do you are?

Speaker 2 (30:05):
You're you're an inventor. So we've established, so what are
you inventing now?

Speaker 1 (30:09):
What are you working on?

Speaker 3 (30:11):
Yeah? This is exciting. I last last fall, Hurricane Milton
came through Sarasota and we got the eye of the storm,
and maybe we can bring up that image. My fence
looked like this. I wasn't home for the storm. It
took three days for me to get home. To find this,

(30:33):
and I said, okay. The fence blew out to the
west for half of it and to the east for
the other half. What is going on here? Oh, this
is what it means to be in the eye of
the storm. You catch it going this way, and it's
one part, you know, it blows down part of the
fence and at the other as the end, as the

(30:53):
eye of the storm passes, at the very end of
the passing, it goes the other way. So I said, okay,
I remember what I spent on that fence. It's gonna
cost me five thousand dollars to put up another fence,
and that new fence could come down next year. In
the next storm. The wind was one hundred and twenty
miles an hour at my house. I know that because

(31:14):
my neighbor has an animometer, and that's not that fast
if there was a Cat five storm. This is a
Category three storm. If it was a Cat five storm,
it could be one hundred and sixty five miles an hour.
What's gonna stand up to that? Then I thought, why
are we trying to beat mother nature? Why are we
resisting that kind of wind? Why don't we do something

(31:35):
that yields to it that gets out of the way.
Why not a fence that gets out of the way.
Why not a fence that's a doggy door. So I
was pretty excited about that idea. I thought, this could
be my last fence, and that's the whole idea. This
has got to be my last fence. I'm not doing
this again. So I designed it. I built a prototype

(31:57):
that was a lot of fun. I was very excited.
Everybody who saw it said that is a really good idea,
and they'd say, Melan, this is overkill, and I'd said,
that is the whole idea. We don't want this to
come down in my lifetime or the next person's lifetime.
If a picket blows out or rots or something, we'll
replace it because it's all They're all put in by screws.

(32:17):
But this is the last fence on this property. It's
going up.

Speaker 1 (32:22):
Where are you at right now, Mss Dash Well.

Speaker 3 (32:25):
I'm really excited about it. I cannot wait to see
how it performs.

Speaker 2 (32:29):
I am.

Speaker 3 (32:30):
We have twelve of the fifteen panels that we need built,
and then I need to hire a couple fence people
to put it up, and then we need to wait
for some wind to come.

Speaker 2 (32:41):
All right, So your is this kind of it's built
on a prototype stage, and you're going to kind of
do some weather testing with it and kind of collect
the data, see some of the results, and then take
it a step further. And I know you've you were
patent pending on this product right now, so we just
want to wait a little bit longer before we give
out all the details and the functionality of this.

Speaker 1 (33:04):
Brilliant, brilliant product.

Speaker 3 (33:06):
Thank you so much.

Speaker 1 (33:07):
You're welcome.

Speaker 2 (33:08):
It was really a pleasure to have you today. I
learned so much from you this afternoon. Those graphics with
the circles and the body and the physical and the consciousness.

Speaker 1 (33:19):
Really really spoke valumes to me this afternoon. I think
it's brilliant.

Speaker 2 (33:24):
I might want to I might order one of your
books just to kind of learn a little bit of
more and about your your theory and how you've applied
it to fear. I think it'll you know, go ahead
and tell us these books again if you don't mind.

Speaker 3 (33:39):
Sure, And there will be another book that the show
that tells people how to use the five circles for
other fears and for other learning. But this book is
called this book is Conquer your Fear of Water, and
the other one is Conquer your Fear of the triathlon
swim of course, and the later books, I can't wait

(34:00):
for those to come out either, because people need to
not be afraid of math and physics and organic chemistry,
you know, these big, wild wooly classes that they take
in college. If the teaching assistants knew that their job
wasn't to have someone solve the math problem, but to
get them to be comfortable, then people would learn this

(34:20):
stuff and it wouldn't be so scary, you know.

Speaker 1 (34:23):
And again, it just it.

Speaker 2 (34:24):
That's why I got so much out of this episode today.
I mean, this applies to so many different areas. And
you know I always tell people too, I go listen,
we procrastinate what we fear, man, you know, no matter
what that mini fear is, you're perceived fear. Some people
have a fear of pay and a bill. I mean,

(34:45):
they will be late on paying a bill because there's
something that blocks them from doing that, you know, like
what is that?

Speaker 1 (34:52):
And then that leads to procrastination.

Speaker 3 (34:55):
Right.

Speaker 2 (34:55):
I have a girlfriend that has that thing, and I'm like, honey,
you just set up automatic age goes. I just have
this anxiety, she has the money, she has, the time,
that this, and this, So it's this weird little something.
So I think that applies to so many things. And
I think you taught us a lot of valuable lessons
here today. And I also want to say, I'm really

(35:16):
I'm going to order one of your tethers because I
want to attach it to the side of my pool
so that I can hold on to it so I'm
not floating all around my pool this season. So I
think that's a great use for it as well. I
think you have a new demographic, so girls that don't
want to float across the pool, right, I just want
to stay in one spot.

Speaker 1 (35:37):
Does that make sense.

Speaker 3 (35:38):
We're still learning how to use it. I mean it's
teaching us. It teaches us something new every year.

Speaker 2 (35:43):
Yeah, it's just crossing over. But I love products that
cross over for other uses and other applications because you know,
why not, right.

Speaker 3 (35:54):
We also put it on a noodle, you know, And
you can do this with kids at the ocean. You
put a belt on the and attach the little white
anchor to the noodle, and the noodle can be behind
them and they can swim out to the buoi you know,
they say, Mom, I want to swim to the buoy, Okay,
just wear the noodle and if they get tired, they
just pull us around and hang out on the noodle
and rest and Mom feels safe again.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
It's just a brilliant way to teach water safety. Water confidence,
you know, gives mom and dad a little bit of
sense of security. If there's like something there gives that
user a little more confidence as well. I think it's great,
I really do. I love it that you're part of
this community. You are our Inventor's spotlight for episode eighteen

(36:40):
Inventor Smart Community Again. We said in the beginning of
the show, if you're an inventor out there, you're a
newly identified inventor like miss Mellon Dash, here, come join
our community. Come talk to us, see what you you know.

Speaker 1 (36:57):
We have the resources available.

Speaker 2 (36:59):
Tons of links, tons of people that have been there,
done that. I know when I very first started, Man,
I wish I knew this. The community wasn't available. Then
it would have saved me probably a couple of bucks
and a lot of stress if if I had a
community to go to instead of just kind of out
there on my own trying to figure it out. So

(37:21):
mss Dash, I hope that you'll come back and see us.
We'll talk more about the fencing that you're working on currently.
You're really glad that you've identified yourself as an inventor,
and I'm excited about all of this that you're working on.

Speaker 1 (37:37):
I think it's great so much.

Speaker 3 (37:39):
I appreciate it so much.

Speaker 1 (37:41):
Well done you, well done you. And hopefully we'll get
to meet in person.

Speaker 2 (37:45):
That's another thing about being part of the National Inventor
Club and the Inventor Smart community.

Speaker 1 (37:50):
We do some in person events as a group.

Speaker 2 (37:53):
We've actually gone and met at the United States Patent
and Trademark Office as an inventor, as a person has
a patent and involved in all of this. I was
a little starstruck being in the building, just having the
vibe and the experience so many inventors that have come
before us, and plenty that are coming along with us

(38:14):
and behind us.

Speaker 1 (38:15):
For younger people.

Speaker 2 (38:16):
It's just a great community to be a part of
and tons of stuff to be involved in with our community.

Speaker 1 (38:23):
All right, ms.

Speaker 2 (38:23):
Dash, looking forward to seeing you in the app and
thanks for being a part of this. Is there anything
that you would tell a new inventor, somebody new into
the community or new getting started. I mean, you have
so much wisdom. What words of advice would can you
leave us with?

Speaker 3 (38:41):
You know, I'm so glad I found this club because
I do feel like, oh, there's somebody else who knows
what it's like to be the first person to have
an idea, and they don't think that they're weird, and
we don't think they're weird. And I don't feel like
I'm bragging when I say, you know what I've done.

(39:01):
I feel like everyone knows this and it's comforting. And
I also really appreciate that there are some great resources
and trustworthy resource sources, Brian being the number one one,
and he's helped me a lot.

Speaker 1 (39:18):
Amazing.

Speaker 3 (39:19):
Yeah, it's really been good.

Speaker 1 (39:21):
He's amazing and we say it all the time.

Speaker 2 (39:24):
I mean, you have to have a leader in the pack,
and Brian is just such a trusted resource and he's
a really smart guy. He's got his finger on the
pulse and there's so much fresh content, fresh stuff. So
we're looking forward to seeing more of you and and
anybody else out there that's, like we say, an inventor,

(39:44):
you don't know where to go, You found a home
with us at Inventor Smart Community. All right, Miss Dash,
episode eighteen on the Books, Lady, we will see you soon.
It was a pleasure speaking with you today. Look forward
to all of it.

Speaker 1 (39:57):
Thank you good much. I had fun all everyone that's
a wrapper today.

Speaker 2 (40:01):
Thank you so much for joining us again and look
forward to seeing you next time.

Speaker 3 (40:05):
Okay, thank you too.

Speaker 1 (40:07):
Bye.

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