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August 1, 2025 68 mins

Season 3 ends with a fantastic guest: Ilan Pappe. In this intimate episode, the most famous Israeli historian talks about his early life and work, the journey to discover the real meaning of Israeli rule over the Palestinians and how he started, through his work, to fight back and offer an alternative historical narrative from the traditional Zionist one. As we discussed his early work on the Husayni family we delved into the politics of Jerusalem and the growing criticism against segregation and apartheid. We also discussed 1948, particularly in relation to the ways in which this historical period is taught in Israeli schools and the perpetuation of myths and stereotypes: a fitting episode for a season finale. 


Originally published on 09/21/2022

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