Full Interview: Corruption in America

The scandal of the week was Donald Trump’s acceptance of a Boeing 747-8 jumbo jet from Qatar, a $400 million “flying palace” that will cost the U.S. an estimated $1 billion to retrofit for the security necessary for a U.S. president.

The story of Trump’s eagerness to accept Qatar’s luxury jet captured public attention not only because of its tackiness - the jet, in fact, is an outdated behemoth, much like Trump himself - but because it contained all the elements of the Trump presidency’s subversion and outright flouting of the rule of law. The Trump family embodies pure greed tinctured by a degree of vulgarity that should be satire, only it is all real and it is happening, witnessed by the tasteless gold ornaments Trump stuffed onto the fireplace mantel of the Oval Office.

This didn’t happen overnight. Thanks to a series of U.S. Supreme Court decisions, and the cultural shift that happened when, in Gordon Gecko’s immortal words, greed became good, corruption has become pervasive in America. Now corruption threatens the state itself.

No one has traced that trajectory more incisively than Sarah Chayes.

After serving in the Peace Corps in Morocco, Chayes began her professional career working for National Public Radio in the Balkans. Her next assignment was covering Afghanistan. Chayes lived with an Afghan family, and as she came to understand the failures of U.S. policy, ended up advising the Joint Chiefs of Staff. The corruption she witnessed in Afghanistan and later, working at the Carnegie Institute for Peace, in countries like Nigeria, led to the recognition that corruption was a worldwide phenomenon. That included the United States. The corrosive nature of corruption became the subject of several books, including the most recent: On Corruption in America: What Is At Stake.

With the explosive corruption of Trump 2.0., there could be no more timely subject. In this interview, we not only talked about the current moment but also the decades leading up to an atmosphere in which Trump profiting from his office barely registers with the public.

Fact check: There is abundant evidence that both Donald Trump and his sons are profiting from Trump’s presidency in ways that almost certainly violate the emoluments clause of the U.S. Constitution, which reads:

…no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State.

The full extent will only be revealed in the coming years, but what we know now is certainly dramatic enough: the estimated $2.9 billion profit from the Trump crypto scheme that many believe functions as a conduit for foreign entities to influence policy, the $550 million “business” deals struck by Eric and Don Jr. who preceded their father to the Gulf States, and not least, the $2 billion from the Saudis that bankrolled Jared Kushner’s investment fund, noting that Kushner had no prior experience as an investment banker.

All of this while the Trump-controlled Republicans in Congress work to pass a budget that will toss millions of struggling Americans off Medicare and food stamps, and raise taxes on people earning less than $30,000 over the coming years.

Corporate leaders accompanied Trump on his recent visit to the Gulf States, triumphantly returning with major investments in U.S. industries. But that victory was tainted by Trump’s embarrassing eagerness to accept the $400 million “flying palace. ” While it’s unlikely that the plane will ever replace Air Force One, Trump’s acceptance of the vulgar bauble was an embarrassment to the United States. It was a signal that the current administration can be bought — and for a relatively cheap price.

America is becoming what many commentators call a kleptocratic autocracy. This radical change threatens the safety and well-being of ordinary Americ