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February 11, 2025 51 mins

What if the blueprint for a just energy future already exists? While the U.S. debates not just how, but "whether to make clean energy equitable" now, Scotland is already doing it—and their lessons could transform how we think about energy justice.

In this eye-opening episode of Just Power, host Carolyn Parrs sits down with lead researcher, Dr. David Drabble, who's helping architect Scotland's groundbreaking just transition framework. He reveals how this small but mighty nation is tackling one of our biggest challenges: making sure clean energy benefits everyone in Scotland, with metrics to back it up. No wonder it was hailed as a "world class and world-leading framework" by the Scottish government, 

You'll discover:

  • Why Scotland's approach is gaining traction globally.
  • How they're measuring what really matters in energy justice.
  • The surprising insights that could save U.S. utilities years of trial and error.
  • What happens when you put justice at the center of energy planning.

But this isn't just about Scotland—it's about the future of energy transition everywhere. Dr. Drabble shares candid insights about:

  • The unexpected challenges they've faced.
  • What's working (and what isn't) in community engagement.
  • How to build political support for energy justice.
  • Real metrics that show if you're making progress.

Whether you're a utility leader or corporation looking for proven strategies, a policy maker seeking successful models, or an advocate working for energy justice, this conversation will change how you think about what's possible.

Don't miss this rare chance to learn from one of the world's most ambitious experiments in just transition. 

CHAPTERS

00:00
Introduction to Just Transitions in Scotland

04:34
Understanding Energy Equity and Justice

07:51
Scotland's Commitment to Just Transitions

08:59
Framework for Measuring Just Transitions

10:17
Engaging Diverse Voices in the Process

12:31
Regional Challenges and Solutions

15:25
Addressing Historical Inequities

17:31
Methodology and Mechanisms for Change

18:37
Case Studies of Successful Transitions

20:30
The Future of Energy Jobs

22:25
Barriers to Implementation

25:09
The Urgency of Action

25:53
Navigating Achievable Environmental Goals

28:47
Building the Bridge While Walking

30:36
Political Dynamics and Climate Action

33:10
Tracking Progress in Just Transition

37:10
Lessons from Scotland's Approach

40:24
Defining Success in Just Transition

42:54
Surprises in the Just Transition Journey

45:56
Creating a Lasting Legacy of Responsibility

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