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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Hello, everyone, Welcome back to Talk Tuesday on Tuesdays.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
So today I'm going to be talking about something that
I've wanted to talk about for a really long time,
like way before I was even doing crime stuff, like
back when I was still doing beauty type videos, and
back when I was in my sorority. And some of
you may not know that about me, but I was
in a sorority. I've never been a big partier, so
it wasn't always like very easy to fit in with
(00:31):
that whole situation.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
But I have had the full Greek experience. I have
experienced the fraternities, the sororities.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
I know the deal, except though I will say it
differs so much school to school. But I wanted to
talk today about hazing. This is something that doesn't just
happen in colleges either. It happens all over the place.
It can happen in sports teams, stuff like that, but
it's definitely most common in sororities and fraternities.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Now, I have to.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Say, my sorority did an excellent job with this. My
sorority was very well maintained. Man, we were disciplined, like
there was a no hazing policy, very strict I have
never been hazed. I can say that completely, and if
anyone attempted to ever haze me, I would have left
in like three seconds.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
So but I do know.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Of people that were hazed because the Greek system is
very weird. Obviously, there's sorority world and there's fraterney World
attorneys for men and sororities for women for those of
you who don't know, but the rules are very different
because they're not like ran by the same people.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
It's it's completely different.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
So the boys get away with pretty much anything. The
girls it's very strict. I know there are some sororities
out there that still haze, but for the most part,
the girl world is really like pulling it together and
banning that a lot of sorities have a very strict
no hazing policy, but the guys on my campus did
whatever they want, like it seemed like they had no rules.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
And then there's this really weird and.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Pretty sexist rule in Greek life where girls are not
allowed to throw parties in.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Their house, but men are with alcohol and everything.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
So they're just creating an environment for things like what
I'm about to tell.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
You today to happen today.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
I'm gonna be telling you the story of a boy
named Gordie Bailey and what happened to him in his
first year at See You Boulder. This is very close
to home for me. I literally went to college like
within an hour of See You Boulder, and I've been
there so many times. I have friends in the Greek life,
so this was very I don't know, it hit me
really hard when this happened, and when I was in college,
(02:25):
I actually wrote a paper on this entire incident. So
I've always wanted to have an opportunity to talk about
this and tell this as a cautionary tale to those
of you who might be drinking under age or even
drinking over the age and just not drinking responsibly or
just around irresponsible drinking, because it can be very dangerous.
I always was like overly concerned with safety and stuff
(02:48):
when everyone was drinking, and I feel like I always got.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
A bad rap for that, But that's because.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
I know the dangers of drinking, because I've had a
lot of drinking in my own personal family in my life.
I've experienced out there acoholics, and I know the dangers
of it, especially at a young age. Almost half of
college students have experienced binge drinking, and binge drinking is
basically any more than five drinks in a row for
men and any more than four drinks in a row
(03:14):
for women. So some of y'allt there, I'm sure, have
been a declared binge drinker without even knowing it. And
we've actually seen a huge rise in the amount of
people that are drinking with the sole purpose to get drunk.
It is very much in our culture for younger people
to want to drink to the point where they're incapacitated.
They think it's funny to black out. I have friends
who that was their goal was like to black out.
(03:37):
Every year, seven hundred thousand students experience alcohol related injuries,
and seventeen hundred of those kids die. And that's that
is from two thousand and four, so it probably has
gotten worse since then. But one of the reasons that
students decide to drink so much is because they get
to college and many of them are out on their
own for the first time and experiencing freedom. Many people
that come into college have little to know experience with alcohol.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
That was me personally.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
When I got to college, I definitely experienced more drinking
than I was used to, and at that age, you
just don't know like what your personal limits are, what
types of alcohol are going to make you sick, what
types of alcohol are going to make you really impaired,
And those are all things that a lot of people
sadly learn as they go in college. Now, there are
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so many cases of people getting hurt, seriously injured or
dying in hazing activities. And what is hazing For those
of you who don't know, Hazing is like any type
of activity that can be humiliating or painful or cause
you to be reckless, like daring people to jump off
of roofs. I remember there were people that would ride
(04:43):
like in a back of a truck and when they
got to red lights, everyone would have to drink while
the right light was red, just like guzzle stuff, and
then they would go again until everyone's like just hammered.
There's all types of very strange rituals and just things
that are really embarrassing.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
So this is Gordy. His full name is Lynn go
In Bailey Junior, and he.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Was born on February twenty second of nineteen eighty six
in Greenwich, Connecticut. Hi. I'm Gordy Bailey from Gordie Bailey's
The Reality Barrier and if you've never done one of
my rides before, you've never lived you have your eyes
on the ride. And Gordy was very very well liked,
(05:22):
like people who spoke about him said that he was
just one of the nicest people they even knew. He
was intelligent, compassionate, funny, he's a leader.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
He played sports. I like to draw lots of different things.
I can drop people, families. You know, I used the
stencil and you know that's a perfect circle when I
draw the head of the of the.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Of the man.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
But you know, I'm really I'm really more known for cats.
I draw cats.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Here's one.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
It's a large cat. But you know, I feel like
my people are pretty good too.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
He was known to be extremely friendly and warm and
just everyone's favorite person. There was actually a time where
he made a hugging game like free hug group at
school or something like that. And Gordy went to Deerfield Academy,
which is a private school grades nine to twelve in Deerfield, Massachusetts,
and he was involved in sports, athletics, that type of thing,
(06:17):
and then he was also involved in theater, a bit,
and he actually started on the school's New England Championship
lacrosse team. In his senior year, he was co captain
of the varsity football team and played both a middle
linebacker and offensive guard. And at graduation, he received the
Class of two thousand and four Award of Excellence and
Drama for his memorable performance in the Academy's musicals and
(06:38):
Dramatic theater production. Outside of school, he loved to travel
around the world. He had made trips to Europe and
Africa visiting friends and family, and he had a pretty
awesome life.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
He was extremely into reggae.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Music actually and played guitar, so he was very talented.
But Gordy graduated high school in two thousand and four
and that following fall he went to Colorado to become
a cu buff and he didn't hesitate to get involved
in his school.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
He joined his fraternity.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
He became what they call pledge, so you're kind of
like in this weird trial period where you're not a
full number, but you're like pledging to try to be one.
So he was a pledge for a fraternity called Kai Si,
and he had also joined the club lacrosse team, so
he was having a really great start to school. So
September sixteenth, two thousand and four, it was Kai SI's
bid day. Now, bid day is the day where you
(07:26):
announced to the new members who is in the sorority
or fraternity. It's like the first day that you were in.
You get the word whether you're in or not. Now
everyone does something different after this. In my sorty, we
just went back to our house and had a little
party with all the new people. And they actually had
the tradition of taking all the boys into the mountains
(07:46):
for bonding. They then blindfolded all of the boys took
them to the Rapaho Roosevelt National Forest, where they were
told to consume four bottles of eighty proof ten high
Bourbon whiskey and six bottles of Karlo Rossy wine around
a bonfire in thirty minutes. And this is a really
common type of hazing actually, And someone in the group
(08:08):
tells them, you know, none of you can leave until
these are finished. And there's all this pressure because you're
kind of like you want to be considered cool.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
These are all new people.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Normally you don't know anyone from like high school or anything,
so there's a lot of pressure and you're kind of
competing with your other pledges, like you don't want to
look lame, and someone can drink way more than you.
So some of them just drink insane amounts, like amounts
that they have never drank before that they have no
idea how they're going to react. So after all the
Pledges drank all of that liquor, they took them back
(08:39):
to their fraternity house to have this big party. So
once they got back to the house, they continued partying.
I'm sure they were, just I would be unconscious at
this point. So at this point, Gordy was very drunk,
just like most of the other guys that were there.
And we're not sure exactly what they did all night,
but around eleven PM, they put Gordy on a couch
they had one wanted him to sleep it off, and
(09:01):
during that time his brothers started drawing on his face
with sharpies to kind of play a prank on him
so that when he would wake up, he'd be like,
oh shit, I drink too much.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
How am I going to get this off my face?
Speaker 2 (09:12):
They put other guys in there, continued to party, and
then ten hours later, around nine am, a call came
into the dispatch is the breathing.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
I don't know. He's not waking up. And do you
know he was drinking.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
I got back last night and they were a bunch
of them.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
We're all drinking. Is he blue or cold? No, he's
not very cold. He doesn't look blue. You can't tell
if he's breathing or not. It doesn't look like it.
You don't think quiet. You don't look like quiet. Don't
look like he's breathing very much at all, at all
or not very much. Look do you see a catch writhing? Oh,
(09:50):
he's lying on it, Jeff, Okay, can you turn him
over on his back? Hang up? I ain't a big guy,
like how big you are? Found Okay, I don't roll
him over.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
I've actually been in this situation before. I'd really like
to do a whole Talk Tuesday video on it. I
have been in the situation at a fraternity party where
someone was unconscious and everyone else cleared the party but me.
It was a crazy experience. I always wanted to tell
a story, So give me a thumbs up. If you
guys want to see a story time for me. I'm
not sure if you guys still like seeing that type
of content for me.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
But anyway, police.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Got there as soon as possible, but by the time
that they were there, there's nothing that they can do
for him.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
I mean, it's way too late.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Gordy's parents got the news shortly after, and the day
that he died, no one from the school even contacted
his mother or father.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
A memorial service was.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Held in Dallas at Saint Mark's School of Texas on Tuesday,
September twenty first of two thousand and four. And after
Gordy's death, his mother, Leslie, brought legal action against the
Alpha Pside Delta chapter of KAISI, and the interfraternity council
actually lost its affiliation with See You in two thousand
and five, which is a really big deal. This means
that no fraternity on the campus will be recognized as
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a legit fraternity. Of course, instead of KAISI admitting that
they were having a problem with hazing and they needed
help and trying to, you know, make the chapter better,
after that, they actually got right on the defense and
hired a lawyer, and they immediately started throwing Gordy under
the bus, saying that he did this to himself and
that he had a drinking problem. And many people actually
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will probably make the argument on this video that he
did do this to himself in a way, he was
the one drinking. No one was holding him down, no
one forced it into his mouth. I mean, he picked
up the bottle and put into his mouth and drank it.
And while that argument is true, at the same time,
the overall culture of hazing is a big issue because
when you're in that moment, when you're trying to be
accepted in this brand new world and these people are
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telling you this is the cool place to be and
here's what you got to do to do it, you
just might do it. So, yes, you can't hold somebody
accountable for murder or anything, but certainly we need to
look at the issues that we have with hazing, because
it's pretty shocking how many times this happens to people.
And it still had shook people when I went to
the school. If you remember the video that I did
(12:04):
on the Stanford prison experiments, you may remember the whole
psychology behind someone in the position of power and someone
who is powerless, and it's very interesting how people will
start to act when they feel like they are not
in a position of power. A lot of people see
hazing as a tradition a passing rite. I mean a
lot of people in my sorority wanted to do hazing,
(12:24):
Like was mad that we couldn't do hazing, And I
mean most people didn't want to, but some people were like,
that is what the sisters before us have done, this
as tradition. But when tradition is resulting in people's lives ending,
don't you think there's a major problem there. On April
twenty fifth of two thousand and five, five of the
fraternity brothers pled guilty to providing alcohol to a minor.
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They were removed from the fraternity and they were required
to do some community service and they all had deferred sentences.
So definitely want to know your guys's opinions on that one.
Gordy's mother, Leslie, and Kaisai went back and forth for
four years trying to come up.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
With a fair amount.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
At the end of everything, an undisclosed amount of money
went into something called the Gordy Foundation. And this foundation
was started by Gordy's mother to work to stop hazing,
binge drinking, and educate students about the dangerous malcol Gordy's
story has now been used as an educational tool for
the fraternity world. And also they implemented a rule after
this that all Greek life organizations have to have a
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live in person there, and we did when I was in.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
A sorority for example.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
They mainly want students to understand how important it is
to make a phone call if someone is unconscious. Don't
worry about getting in trouble. This person's life means more
than anything. Always call, Always call. Oftentimes in states there's
laws like the safe haven law here. I'm not sure
how many other states have that, but it protects you
as the caller from being given in a minor in
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possession charge or something like that. You should never never,
I'm talking to people who have just started in this
world or have just started in college.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
Never allow someone to sleep it off. Never.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
The amount of alcohol that you have to consume to
pass out is very very close to the amount that
you need to kill yourself. The Gordy Foundation pushes an
acronym called pups and it's to check for signs of
alcohol poisoning. It stands for puking while passed out, unresponsive
to pinching or stimuli, breathing, irregular or slow skin, cold
blue and clammy, and any of those things are a
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trigger to call nine one one, even if you're not
completely sure. The Gordy Foundation also helped produce a documentary
called Haze. I highly recommend it. It is very educational
about this stuff that tells you more about Gordy. His
parents are very involved in it. I just really wanted
to share the story with you because I know so
many of you have probably been in situations where you've
been peer pressured. I've always had to deal with that
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because I was always the one that wasn't.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Drinking most of the time.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
I've had my moments, but yeah, I definitely understand that
pressure and have fallen into that pressure many times, drank
too much and really regret it. So if you're in
college and you're just kind of starting out, my best
advice to you is sure that if you're drinking, that
you have.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
A plan in place and how you're going to get home.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
And another great thing to always do is to have
a buddy, someone that you check in with. This person's
going to make sure that you are in your bed
at the end of the night, breathing and okay. And
it's a shame because that's what you're supposed to learn
in a fraternity, you're sporty, You're supposed to learn all
about sisterhood and brotherhood, and sadly, not everyone in it
learns those lessons. But that's it for me today, Guys.
I definitely want to hear your thoughts below, so hit
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me with a comment. Definitely give me a thumbs up
on this video if you want to see that story
time soon.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
And that's it for me today. Guys. I hope you're
having a great day, Stay safe, drink responsibly, and I
will see you next times.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
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Hello, everyone, Welcome back to Talk Tuesday on Tuesdays.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
So today I'm going to be talking about something that
I've wanted to talk about for a really long time,
like way before I was even doing crime stuff, like
back when I was still doing beauty type videos, and
back when I was in my sorority. And some of
you may not know that about me, but I was
in a sorority. I've never been a big partier, so
it wasn't always like very easy to fit in with
(00:31):
that whole situation.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
But I have had the full Greek experience. I have
experienced the fraternities, the sororities.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
I know the deal, except though I will say it
differs so much school to school. But I wanted to
talk today about hazing. This is something that doesn't just
happen in colleges either. It happens all over the place.
It can happen in sports teams, stuff like that, but
it's definitely most common in sororities and fraternities.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Now, I have to.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Say, my sorority did an excellent job with this. My
sorority was very well maintained. Man, we were disciplined, like
there was a no hazing policy, very strict I have
never been hazed. I can say that completely, and if
anyone attempted to ever haze me, I would have left
in like three seconds.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
So but I do know.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Of people that were hazed because the Greek system is
very weird. Obviously, there's sorority world and there's fraterney World
attorneys for men and sororities for women for those of
you who don't know, but the rules are very different
because they're not like ran by the same people.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
It's it's completely different.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
So the boys get away with pretty much anything. The
girls it's very strict. I know there are some sororities
out there that still haze, but for the most part,
the girl world is really like pulling it together and
banning that a lot of sorities have a very strict
no hazing policy, but the guys on my campus did
whatever they want, like it seemed like they had no rules.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
And then there's this really weird and.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Pretty sexist rule in Greek life where girls are not
allowed to throw parties in.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Their house, but men are with alcohol and everything.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
So they're just creating an environment for things like what
I'm about to tell.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
You today to happen today.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
I'm gonna be telling you the story of a boy
named Gordie Bailey and what happened to him in his
first year at See You Boulder. This is very close
to home for me. I literally went to college like
within an hour of See You Boulder, and I've been
there so many times. I have friends in the Greek life,
so this was very I don't know, it hit me
really hard when this happened, and when I was in college,
(02:25):
I actually wrote a paper on this entire incident. So
I've always wanted to have an opportunity to talk about
this and tell this as a cautionary tale to those
of you who might be drinking under age or even
drinking over the age and just not drinking responsibly or
just around irresponsible drinking, because it can be very dangerous.
I always was like overly concerned with safety and stuff
(02:48):
when everyone was drinking, and I feel like I always got.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
A bad rap for that, But that's because.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
I know the dangers of drinking, because I've had a
lot of drinking in my own personal family in my life.
I've experienced out there acoholics, and I know the dangers
of it, especially at a young age. Almost half of
college students have experienced binge drinking, and binge drinking is
basically any more than five drinks in a row for
men and any more than four drinks in a row
(03:14):
for women. So some of y'allt there, I'm sure, have
been a declared binge drinker without even knowing it. And
we've actually seen a huge rise in the amount of
people that are drinking with the sole purpose to get drunk.
It is very much in our culture for younger people
to want to drink to the point where they're incapacitated.
They think it's funny to black out. I have friends
who that was their goal was like to black out.
(03:37):
Every year, seven hundred thousand students experience alcohol related injuries,
and seventeen hundred of those kids die. And that's that
is from two thousand and four, so it probably has
gotten worse since then. But one of the reasons that
students decide to drink so much is because they get
to college and many of them are out on their
own for the first time and experiencing freedom. Many people
that come into college have little to know experience with alcohol.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
That was me personally.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
When I got to college, I definitely experienced more drinking
than I was used to, and at that age, you
just don't know like what your personal limits are, what
types of alcohol are going to make you sick, what
types of alcohol are going to make you really impaired,
And those are all things that a lot of people
sadly learn as they go in college. Now, there are
(04:21):
so many cases of people getting hurt, seriously injured or
dying in hazing activities. And what is hazing For those
of you who don't know, Hazing is like any type
of activity that can be humiliating or painful or cause
you to be reckless, like daring people to jump off
of roofs. I remember there were people that would ride
(04:43):
like in a back of a truck and when they
got to red lights, everyone would have to drink while
the right light was red, just like guzzle stuff, and
then they would go again until everyone's like just hammered.
There's all types of very strange rituals and just things
that are really embarrassing.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
So this is Gordy. His full name is Lynn go
In Bailey Junior, and he.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Was born on February twenty second of nineteen eighty six
in Greenwich, Connecticut. Hi. I'm Gordy Bailey from Gordie Bailey's
The Reality Barrier and if you've never done one of
my rides before, you've never lived you have your eyes
on the ride. And Gordy was very very well liked,
(05:22):
like people who spoke about him said that he was
just one of the nicest people they even knew. He
was intelligent, compassionate, funny, he's a leader.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
He played sports. I like to draw lots of different things.
I can drop people, families. You know, I used the
stencil and you know that's a perfect circle when I
draw the head of the of the.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Of the man.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
But you know, I'm really I'm really more known for cats.
I draw cats.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Here's one.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
It's a large cat. But you know, I feel like
my people are pretty good too.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
He was known to be extremely friendly and warm and
just everyone's favorite person. There was actually a time where
he made a hugging game like free hug group at
school or something like that. And Gordy went to Deerfield Academy,
which is a private school grades nine to twelve in Deerfield, Massachusetts,
and he was involved in sports, athletics, that type of thing,
(06:17):
and then he was also involved in theater, a bit,
and he actually started on the school's New England Championship
lacrosse team. In his senior year, he was co captain
of the varsity football team and played both a middle
linebacker and offensive guard. And at graduation, he received the
Class of two thousand and four Award of Excellence and
Drama for his memorable performance in the Academy's musicals and
(06:38):
Dramatic theater production. Outside of school, he loved to travel
around the world. He had made trips to Europe and
Africa visiting friends and family, and he had a pretty
awesome life.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
He was extremely into reggae.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Music actually and played guitar, so he was very talented.
But Gordy graduated high school in two thousand and four
and that following fall he went to Colorado to become
a cu buff and he didn't hesitate to get involved
in his school.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
He joined his fraternity.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
He became what they call pledge, so you're kind of
like in this weird trial period where you're not a
full number, but you're like pledging to try to be one.
So he was a pledge for a fraternity called Kai Si,
and he had also joined the club lacrosse team, so
he was having a really great start to school. So
September sixteenth, two thousand and four, it was Kai SI's
bid day. Now, bid day is the day where you
(07:26):
announced to the new members who is in the sorority
or fraternity. It's like the first day that you were in.
You get the word whether you're in or not. Now
everyone does something different after this. In my sorty, we
just went back to our house and had a little
party with all the new people. And they actually had
the tradition of taking all the boys into the mountains
(07:46):
for bonding. They then blindfolded all of the boys took
them to the Rapaho Roosevelt National Forest, where they were
told to consume four bottles of eighty proof ten high
Bourbon whiskey and six bottles of Karlo Rossy wine around
a bonfire in thirty minutes. And this is a really
common type of hazing actually, And someone in the group
(08:08):
tells them, you know, none of you can leave until
these are finished. And there's all this pressure because you're
kind of like you want to be considered cool.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
These are all new people.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Normally you don't know anyone from like high school or anything,
so there's a lot of pressure and you're kind of
competing with your other pledges, like you don't want to
look lame, and someone can drink way more than you.
So some of them just drink insane amounts, like amounts
that they have never drank before that they have no
idea how they're going to react. So after all the
Pledges drank all of that liquor, they took them back
(08:39):
to their fraternity house to have this big party. So
once they got back to the house, they continued partying.
I'm sure they were, just I would be unconscious at
this point. So at this point, Gordy was very drunk,
just like most of the other guys that were there.
And we're not sure exactly what they did all night,
but around eleven PM, they put Gordy on a couch
they had one wanted him to sleep it off, and
(09:01):
during that time his brothers started drawing on his face
with sharpies to kind of play a prank on him
so that when he would wake up, he'd be like,
oh shit, I drink too much.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
How am I going to get this off my face?
Speaker 2 (09:12):
They put other guys in there, continued to party, and
then ten hours later, around nine am, a call came
into the dispatch is the breathing.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
I don't know. He's not waking up. And do you
know he was drinking.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
I got back last night and they were a bunch
of them.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
We're all drinking. Is he blue or cold? No, he's
not very cold. He doesn't look blue. You can't tell
if he's breathing or not. It doesn't look like it.
You don't think quiet. You don't look like quiet. Don't
look like he's breathing very much at all, at all
or not very much. Look do you see a catch writhing? Oh,
(09:50):
he's lying on it, Jeff, Okay, can you turn him
over on his back? Hang up? I ain't a big guy,
like how big you are? Found Okay, I don't roll
him over.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
I've actually been in this situation before. I'd really like
to do a whole Talk Tuesday video on it. I
have been in the situation at a fraternity party where
someone was unconscious and everyone else cleared the party but me.
It was a crazy experience. I always wanted to tell
a story, So give me a thumbs up. If you
guys want to see a story time for me. I'm
not sure if you guys still like seeing that type
of content for me.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
But anyway, police.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Got there as soon as possible, but by the time
that they were there, there's nothing that they can do
for him.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
I mean, it's way too late.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Gordy's parents got the news shortly after, and the day
that he died, no one from the school even contacted
his mother or father.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
A memorial service was.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Held in Dallas at Saint Mark's School of Texas on Tuesday,
September twenty first of two thousand and four. And after
Gordy's death, his mother, Leslie, brought legal action against the
Alpha Pside Delta chapter of KAISI, and the interfraternity council
actually lost its affiliation with See You in two thousand
and five, which is a really big deal. This means
that no fraternity on the campus will be recognized as
(10:58):
a legit fraternity. Of course, instead of KAISI admitting that
they were having a problem with hazing and they needed
help and trying to, you know, make the chapter better,
after that, they actually got right on the defense and
hired a lawyer, and they immediately started throwing Gordy under
the bus, saying that he did this to himself and
that he had a drinking problem. And many people actually
(11:21):
will probably make the argument on this video that he
did do this to himself in a way, he was
the one drinking. No one was holding him down, no
one forced it into his mouth. I mean, he picked
up the bottle and put into his mouth and drank it.
And while that argument is true, at the same time,
the overall culture of hazing is a big issue because
when you're in that moment, when you're trying to be
accepted in this brand new world and these people are
(11:44):
telling you this is the cool place to be and
here's what you got to do to do it, you
just might do it. So, yes, you can't hold somebody
accountable for murder or anything, but certainly we need to
look at the issues that we have with hazing, because
it's pretty shocking how many times this happens to people.
And it still had shook people when I went to
the school. If you remember the video that I did
(12:04):
on the Stanford prison experiments, you may remember the whole
psychology behind someone in the position of power and someone
who is powerless, and it's very interesting how people will
start to act when they feel like they are not
in a position of power. A lot of people see
hazing as a tradition a passing rite. I mean a
lot of people in my sorority wanted to do hazing,
(12:24):
Like was mad that we couldn't do hazing, And I
mean most people didn't want to, but some people were like,
that is what the sisters before us have done, this
as tradition. But when tradition is resulting in people's lives ending,
don't you think there's a major problem there. On April
twenty fifth of two thousand and five, five of the
fraternity brothers pled guilty to providing alcohol to a minor.
(12:45):
They were removed from the fraternity and they were required
to do some community service and they all had deferred sentences.
So definitely want to know your guys's opinions on that one.
Gordy's mother, Leslie, and Kaisai went back and forth for
four years trying to come up.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
With a fair amount.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
At the end of everything, an undisclosed amount of money
went into something called the Gordy Foundation. And this foundation
was started by Gordy's mother to work to stop hazing,
binge drinking, and educate students about the dangerous malcol Gordy's
story has now been used as an educational tool for
the fraternity world. And also they implemented a rule after
this that all Greek life organizations have to have a
(13:24):
live in person there, and we did when I was in.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
A sorority for example.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
They mainly want students to understand how important it is
to make a phone call if someone is unconscious. Don't
worry about getting in trouble. This person's life means more
than anything. Always call, Always call. Oftentimes in states there's
laws like the safe haven law here. I'm not sure
how many other states have that, but it protects you
as the caller from being given in a minor in
(13:50):
possession charge or something like that. You should never never,
I'm talking to people who have just started in this
world or have just started in college.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
Never allow someone to sleep it off. Never.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
The amount of alcohol that you have to consume to
pass out is very very close to the amount that
you need to kill yourself. The Gordy Foundation pushes an
acronym called pups and it's to check for signs of
alcohol poisoning. It stands for puking while passed out, unresponsive
to pinching or stimuli, breathing, irregular or slow skin, cold
blue and clammy, and any of those things are a
(14:24):
trigger to call nine one one, even if you're not
completely sure. The Gordy Foundation also helped produce a documentary
called Haze. I highly recommend it. It is very educational
about this stuff that tells you more about Gordy. His
parents are very involved in it. I just really wanted
to share the story with you because I know so
many of you have probably been in situations where you've
been peer pressured. I've always had to deal with that
(14:46):
because I was always the one that wasn't.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Drinking most of the time.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
I've had my moments, but yeah, I definitely understand that
pressure and have fallen into that pressure many times, drank
too much and really regret it. So if you're in
college and you're just kind of starting out, my best
advice to you is sure that if you're drinking, that
you have.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
A plan in place and how you're going to get home.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
And another great thing to always do is to have
a buddy, someone that you check in with. This person's
going to make sure that you are in your bed
at the end of the night, breathing and okay. And
it's a shame because that's what you're supposed to learn
in a fraternity, you're sporty, You're supposed to learn all
about sisterhood and brotherhood, and sadly, not everyone in it
learns those lessons. But that's it for me today, Guys.
I definitely want to hear your thoughts below, so hit
(15:31):
me with a comment. Definitely give me a thumbs up
on this video if you want to see that story
time soon.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
And that's it for me today. Guys. I hope you're
having a great day, Stay safe, drink responsibly, and I
will see you next times.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
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