February 17, 2025 • 32 mins
In this episode, I sit down with Adriana Sorge, a transformation coach with a master’s in spiritual psychology, whose journey is a masterclass in resilience, intuition, and owning your truth.
Adriana’s story begins in the middle of a three-year divorce battle while raising two toddlers. Struggling through uncertainty, she found herself at a kickboxing class where a chance conversation led her to a life-changing decision—enrolling in a two-year program in spiritual psychology. With no clear plan and finances tight, she trusted her gut and took the leap.
Her defining moment? A custody hearing where, against her attorney’s advice, she spoke directly to the judge from the heart—no scripts, no strategy, just raw truth. The result? More custody of her kids and a deep realization: authenticity is power.
Fast-forward to today, Adriana and her ex-husband have gone from adversaries to friends, proving that transformation is possible in even the most challenging relationships.
As a coach, she now helps others reconnect with their inner knowing, teaching them to listen to their body’s signals, emotions, and truth. Her book, Your Breakdown is Your Breakthrough, is both a memoir and a guide, packed with tools for healing, self-love, and personal growth.
This conversation is a deep dive into:
🔹 Personal sovereignty – Taking ownership of your life, even when it feels impossible.
🔹 The power of speaking your truth – How authenticity shifts outcomes.
🔹 Healing from the inside out – Adriana’s journey through bulimia, childhood trauma, and radical self-love.
Her message? Transformation starts with you. Trust the process, embrace the discomfort, and know that every small moment of presence and self-acceptance is a step toward your breakthrough.
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Welcome to Leadership on Purpose, the podcast series. I'm your host, Catherine, and this is where we shatter the status quo and dive deep into the raw, unfiltered stories of those who are embracing their inner alignment.
If you're tired of the cookie cutter approach to success and you crave a life that resonates with your true self, you are in the right place. Join me each week as we uncover powerful insights from those who have had the courage to lean into their purpose, live authentically, and create a life they were made for.
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This isn't just a conversation.
It's a movement.
This is a revolution of authentic leadership, but we don't just talk about change. We live it.
And you can too.
Hello and welcome back to Leadership on Purpose. I'm really excited to introduce my next guest for you today, and I don't know how I keep ending up with the most incredible people that I get to have these conversations with.
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And it's again my hope that you will listen to this conversation and take away something that you didn't think about before. Maybe it changes your perspective, and maybe it encourages you to do something in your life you've been wanting to do, but either haven't had the clarity around it, haven't had the understanding why you feel that way.
You don't have the understanding why you feel that pull. So that's really why I'm having these conversations with these people because I think there's a lot of an educational component to that, that serves the rest of humanity and so that's what we're here to do is just serve the rest of humanity.
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So you are going to meet Adriana Sorge, and she's an incredible person. She actually has a degree in spiritual psychology, which I think a lot of people are like, what is that? We're going to find out exactly what that is. And now she's in the coaching role doing all things, transformation based relationships, etc.
And she actually has a great story because she was in a place where living, you know, at home with her child and her in her family and you know took had this, this time in her life where I just didn't resonate with her anymore and had to make some really big changes.
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And that catapulted her onto this journey and this transformative life that she's living now and so that's what we're going to talk about and I'm really excited for you guys to meet her so welcome. Thank you for being here.
Thank you for having me.
Of course, of course. So talk to me about a educational platform platform of spiritual psychology. What does that mean?
Yeah.
Everybody asked me that question when I tell them that I have a master's degree in spiritual psychology. So, spiritual psychology is the study of human evolution in consciousness.
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So it encompasses both traditional psychology and the spiritual principles that are designed to help you connect with the truth of who you truly are with your true essence.
And spiritual psychology is really a reminder that we're all here having a human experience that we're spiritual beings having a human experience.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And what made you decide to take to get your master's in that?
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So that's where my whole story of transformation begins. Right. I was led to go to that school because I was going through the most horrible divorce.
I went through divorce for three years back in 2006. My kids were only two and three years old and we went to court and I was my life completely shattered.
I just didn't know who I was. I didn't know I was coming next for me in my life and I identify as a mom. I didn't know what else I was going to do with my life.
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I had no idea where I was going. And somebody from my kickboxing class that was always so happy and positive and I really looked up to this person, this woman, and I asked her,
Why are you always so happy? Like, what? What? Why do you always have this radiance and this energy like life is just always good to you?
And she said to me, you know what? I want to invite you to come to this school. There is an intro evening in the next couple of days.
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We can remember what that was, but I said, OK, let me go check it out. And I went to the intro evening.
And when I walked into the intro evening to the school, you ended up in the school that I ended up in.
So I went to the intro evening and when the teachers started speaking and sharing with us about the whole program, which is a two year program, it's very serious.
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It's a big commitment. I just felt like, OK, I think I'm meant to be here. This is it. I don't know how I'm going to do this.
I don't know how I'm going to pay for it because I was going through my divorce and it was a pretty expensive course. But I said, OK, I need to do this.
I just felt the call to say yes to that. And I ended up just giving them my credit card. I paid for the two year program.
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And it was huge because I had little kids and I thought I'm just going to figure that out. Yeah. I'll figure out who I'm going to leave them with.
I'm going to, you know, pay for my credit card. And that's it. And so I went through the program. That's where everything began.
That is amazing. And what I love about that is what you just talked about showcases the power of decision.
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I just went through this with there's a mastermind that I joined a little while ago and, you know, it was expensive.
And when I I was listening to, you know, sitting through this three day intensive and I'm listening to them speak and I felt this calling so strong that I'm like, this is where I'm supposed to be.
But I'm like, well, how does this work? Like, you know, I don't know how I'm going to like how do we navigate all of the logistics around this?
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But, you know, I just decided in that moment I'm going to make this. It's the decision I make and I'm going to let the rest of that kind of fall into place.
And I do think that there's like the universe hears that. And, you know, it's like you're being guided and it's like, no, I got you. I got you.
You got to follow what the flow is for you and like how your soul is calling you.
So you joined, you take that class or you take the two hour, the two year course. And now what does your life look like after that?
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So I went through so many different changes. Right. I went through this divorce that led me to court.
I was in court for quite a bit, like almost once a month. I would have to show up in court because all of a sudden I felt like my kids were being taken away from me.
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And there was my ex husband was a very powerful man and he couldn't accept the fact that I wanted to leave him.
Right. And that lesson, we're best friends now. Oh, is that right?
Talking about 20 years ago now as this happened. And I've told my story so many times and he knows that I tell the story about how much of a jerk he was.
But he was mad. You know, he was really angry that I still a jerk today. Is he what? Is he still a jerk today or is he? No, he's a wonderful person.
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And I love him. And we're very, very good friends now. What a testament. That's amazing.
And in fact, this is, you know, you know that I'm going to Bali in January. He gave me that trip. Like he gifted me that for my birthday.
Oh, he did. Yeah. It's like, you know, I'm going to I'm going to get to that for your birthday.
And he's in a relationship. I'm in a relationship. But he just wanted to give me that for my 50th birthday because you're the mother of his children.
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And that's a bond that is incredible. Amazing. But it's hard to believe that we can be friendly now because we went through horrible, horrible divorce.
Because people don't think that people can change. Right. Right. It's like you're this way and you're like, there's no way.
But we're all evolving as souls in this human experience. Right. And absolutely.
You know, you have to let people go through what they're going to go through so that they can be who they're supposed to be.
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And, you know, giving people that grace in that space and not placing the judgment of permanency on that, I think is really important.
Yeah. And what's most, most important is that the work begins with us. Right. Yeah. Like like for us to wait for them to change in order for things to be different.
Right. Right. It's just never going to happen. Yeah. It might. It might not. Right. We don't know that. Yeah.
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But I wanted to have the freedom to be myself and to and to and to forgive, to forgive everything that I went through with him because, you know, that that was my freedom.
That was me claiming back, you know, my peace. And if I didn't forgive him, you know, that was going to be on me.
Yeah. I was going to live the rest of my life with this pain in my heart. Yeah. And that was not going to help me.
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It's not going to serve my children. It was not going to serve my my journey. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. That that's a beautiful story.
So you come through this program and you've completely you're completely on a different track now. Right.
You know, on this spiritual transformation track, which is very different and I think hard for people who are not on it or don't understand it.
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You know, once you get on it and you get ignited, you kind of can't go back. You look at life so differently.
You know, I have found that through my own transformation, I just I have such a different lens of how I perceive things through.
And I'm I think about myself, you know, five, six, seven years ago, and we're just so different people. We're different people. We're completely like I don't recognize that girl at all.
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You know, and I think her life might have been a bit easier, you know, than mine now.
But I wouldn't trade it for the understandings and the appreciation I have for the life I've been given.
So tell me about what it looks like for you now and what are you focused on now and what's your you know, we're here to to help the human collective.
So what you know, what is that?
And the beautiful thing that came out from that experience of my divorce is that it was really the catalyst for me to find myself, to really reconnect with the truth of who I am, which, you know, is something that, you know, I didn't know before I was completely lost in that marriage.
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I thought that I was just there to be the mother of my kids and to serve him.
Right. And I forgot about me. I kind of abandoned myself.
And as I go through this, this divorce, you know, basically the end of that marriage was because I started to wake up to myself and I was going to therapy and I was doing some inner work and he wasn't.
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And then I realized what I don't I don't think that this is what I want the rest of my life.
And I don't think that this is what I want my children to experience that this is what love looks like.
Right. We're not really connected and I want to be with someone that's really interested in me knowing who I am and knowing what my dreams are and knowing what what what what my soul is calling me into.
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Yeah. And I don't think he was ready to embrace all of me at the time.
But I became ready to embrace myself and I had to make a decision. It was either my marriage the way that it was without, you know, any big changes, but just without rocking the boat.
Or it was me choosing myself and choosing what, you know, life had in store for me.
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Which is such a scary thing, you know, when you're standing at the brink of that path, right? You can you're going to go this way or this way. You're going to leave your marriage or you're going to stay.
And, you know, I remember being in that position and it's like it's almost when you get to the place where you're like, I've got to go.
It's like the pull so strong, you know, despite how you, you know, I loved my partner wasn't about that. You know, it was about me. Right.
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And but the damage, you know, that you think you're going to cause like, oh, the children and upsetting the life and then the friend groups and, you know, all the all of the social norms that get broken down.
It's a scary, scary place for people. Yeah. And, you know, I think a lot of people stay because they're too scared of that. Yeah. You know. Yeah.
But it's like if you're if you're getting that now that you're meant to do something different, you know, and I don't get that question a lot. Like, how do you know it's not just you being, you know, I just want something for like a temporary fix or I really this is something calling to change my life.
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Yeah. Like, how would you answer that question? I think I really wanted to experience what true love felt like.
And I didn't think that I was experiencing that with him. And it really began with me learning to love myself and to embrace all of me, which, you know, there was so many aspects of me that I worked sort of I was sort of denying and not accepting.
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And when I began to do that and to really love myself unconditionally, that's when I really knew that I was that that marriage had served a purpose that we had come to a place where we were not serving each other souls evolution. Right.
And not, you know, I knew that I was holding my soul back. And if I know that I'm holding my soul back, then I'm holding his soul back. Even if he didn't understand it in those terms at the time. Yeah. Right. He might not even understand it today. Right.
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And that's OK. But for me, it was very important that I continue to follow the way that I felt in the inside and my, you know, everything, everything was pointing my way out of that marriage. Yeah. You know, and I knew that I was very, very confident in that decision.
And I knew that I didn't feel guilty about my kids until later, you know, when he started taking the kids for a week, you know, and I felt like my kids were babies. You know, my son was only two years old.
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And it was like all of a sudden I go I go from from like a stay at home mom that was with her kids 24 seven to not seeing them or hearing from them five days in a row every other week to a point where my son one day asked me, Mommy, how come you don't want to see us anymore?
And that broke my heart. And that was the day that I decided to go back to court and get more custody because I knew that the kids needed to have more time with me. And he was just busy leaving them with the babysitter.
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And I felt why do they need to be with the babysitter where they can be with me? And I have the time and I'm here for them. And I'm a devoted mother.
And so I went back to court and and I've tested this part of that question because the day that I showed up to that final court hearing, which was about custody, we had so many different hearings about money, about the business, everything.
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But this was the most important for me. It was about the custody.
And my attorney said to me, you're not going to get your kids back. It's not going to happen. He's a good father. There's he doesn't have any addictions. He's normal.
Like the judge is not going to give you more custody. But I had I had this inner guidance that kept telling me the opposite.
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I just kept hearing keep going, keep going, keep going. This is what's best for the kids.
So I go to this final thing in court and I could feel that my attorney wasn't really doing much for me because he was, you know, set in the fact that I was not going to get more custody.
So I felt something inside me that said stand up right now. Oh, and this is this is inside the courtroom where he's like sitting on the other side across from me with his attorney who was incredibly.
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I mean, I cannot even tell you. She really wanted to destroy me and to take everything from me.
And in the back, there were people, you know, just just listening and watching.
And in that moment, it just became about me and the judge. I disconnected from everything else.
And I just focus my attention in my heart and speaking my truth from the heart to the judge.
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So I stood up and I said, man, I have a word, your honor. And he looked into my eyes and said, yeah, he acknowledged me.
And he said, oh, sure. And so I started to talk and I said, here's the thing. I don't I don't want to take my kids away from him.
They deserve to have time with their father. But my kids are now they're suffering.
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My son wants to take it as he doesn't understand why I'm not he doesn't see me as much anymore.
And I told him what he said to me. And I spoke from my heart in a way that I've never done before.
I was truly connected to my inner guidance and to my truth. And in that moment, I could feel that the judge hurt me.
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And I believe that when we speak from the heart, the truth, we land in the heart of someone else.
You know, that truth lands in the heart of someone else. And he hurt me in that moment. I could feel it.
So then he said, OK, we're going to take a little break. And when you guys come back, I'm going to give my final decision.
So we went we go out in the hallway and my attorney is upset with me. Of course.
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He's like, I can't believe you just did that. I told you not to stand up, not to do anything.
This is I am the one that is in charge. I'm doing everything. You just blew it for yourself.
And I said to my attorney, don't talk to me right now. Yeah, I'm focused.
I know what I'm doing. I don't need to hear that. Right. I knew it.
I knew it. I was going to get more costly. I already knew I already had that inner knowing.
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So we go back inside and the judge says, I'm going to give more cost to the mother. My legs were shaking.
I mean, I was just like, I couldn't believe it. This was the power of speaking from your heart, of being fully connected to your truth and like really owning it.
And he said to me, I'm going to give 65 percent to the mother and today starting today because they were with him after school.
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You're dropping the kids off to her. Amazing. And I was just shaking.
And so I I walk out of the courtroom and I said to my friend, thank you. I got to go get in my car.
And I just sat in my car and I was crying, just crying. I'm going to cry right now. Thank you.
Thank you, God. Such a beautiful story. I was just so grateful for that moment. That was the moment when I realized that I had a big purpose here
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and that I was a powerful being and that I was capable of doing anything I wanted with my life.
That was the moment that I knew that I could fight, that I could stand up for my truth and that I could make impact in my life.
So you were this is oh, my God, you really did make me cry because I can't imagine my child ever saying that to me and how devastating and how hard heartbreaking that is.
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And, you know, to get to the place where there's so many people suffering right now, right, that are like, I can't do this. I don't want to lose my kids.
I don't. But and they're they're relying on external validation.
And so what you're talking about is aligning yourself internally and listening to your inner guidance and following that and saying, you know,
there's a force greater than me. There's a power greater than me.
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And, you know, when you tap into that and you understand what that is, it will always take you to where you need to go.
100 percent. It will always protect you. Absolutely.
If you're someone watching, listening to the story, that's like, OK, that's amazing.
And now she's doing all these things and she's got this masters and this beautiful program.
And, you know, now she's a big coach and great. Well, like, how do I how does that help the everyday person?
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How does that how do we help the everyday person who's like, I've never heard anything inside me before.
I don't know how to get in touch with like my, you know, who I am authentically.
I don't know how to listen to myself. How do you help them? Yeah.
Breathe. Connect with your body and just notice your body is always giving you feedback and the feedback shows up through how you feel.
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Right. I'm a relationship coach. And one of the things that women want to hear the most is, is this right for me?
This person, is he right for me or is he not? How do you feel when you're in his presence?
How does your body feel? Does it feel excited? Does it feel open or does it feel closed off?
Do you feel like you can be yourself and really express who you are?
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Or do you feel like you are contracting in the inside when you are in the presence?
So really trusting, finding that trust inside because trust, where does it live?
It lives inside ourselves. It doesn't live out there. Right.
And we're always like looking outside of ourselves.
So it's like go within and begin to become curious about you.
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Who am I today? Who am I? What am I doing here? Yeah. Yeah.
And that presence, like cultivating the presence of the moment.
You know, there's it gets so cliche like live in the present, live in the.
It's the most important thing you if you actually understand it that you can actually ever do.
There are times I'll be driving and I'll find myself getting caught up in my thoughts, which, you know, the cyber synetic loop or the cybernetic loop.
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Your thoughts, your beliefs, create your thoughts, create your feelings, create your actions and your actions really are just more congruent with the belief that you have. Right.
So, you know, when I get to that place where I'm I'm finding that my thoughts are changing my mood and my energy.
So I'm like, wait, I'm associating a belief to a thought that doesn't serve me.
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And it's changing how I feel like that's how crazy I am right now.
Like, I'm so in tune with how I'm thinking. I love that.
Because if I get into a place that I don't feel good or I don't feel I'm I'm really I really dig deep to go.
What am I feeling? Why am I feeling this way?
What's the thought pattern and what's the belief system that I need to unpack to make sure that I can change the way I feel right now?
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Totally. And the best way to do that is sometimes I just do this in the car.
Like, I'm just like, no, I'm going to stay present in this moment.
I'm going to stay because right now in this moment, I can control everything I think, you know, the way that I feel and how I'm listening to my own inner guidance and where it's telling me to go.
And I love your story. It's so beautiful.
It's so incredible because it shows that no matter who you are, no matter where you are in your life, everyone has that superpower.
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And it's a superpower. And it's like we're now getting to this place where we're waking up to it, where people are now understanding I'm not a victim to this life.
I am a co-creator. One hundred percent. I love that. Yeah.
When you can step into that with a full understanding that life is happening for you and through you, not to you.
Yes. You know, that's when you get like that's when you're unstoppable and you're like, no, nothing.
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You know, like, I don't care what you know. Everybody's a reflection, right?
Everybody's a mirror. It's like you can pick up pieces of what's going on in your internal world by the conversations you have and the people that are showing that to you externally.
It's really a fascinating experiment of humankind right now.
You think it's fascinating. It's fascinating. It is.
But, you know, you're in the driver's seat of your own movie and that's the best thing ever. So, yeah, that's just as a great story.
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I'm so glad you stood up in court for that little boy. I'm so glad.
And how old is he now? He's 21. He's 21. That little two year old face.
Yeah, he's 21 and my daughter is 22. Amazing. Yeah. Amazing.
I'm so glad. I'm so glad that I did that. I stood up because it was a really beautiful journey, you know, raising my kids and being able to to just have that time,
the time that I really had to spend with them as I was becoming, you know, the woman that I am today.
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And they got to experience and witness my transformation, which is, you know, my 22 year old daughter today tells me, Mom, you're so different.
You're so different than you were when I was 10 years old, when I was a teenager.
The education platform that was for them. Yeah. Like that.
What you showed them was more than they could ever learn in school. Absolutely. You know? Yeah.
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So it's really beautiful. Tell me about your book. Your breakdown is your breakthrough.
I think this I mean, how were you the first person to get the name of a title of a book like that? Right.
Because every there's so many books out there. And I know in the process of choosing the title for my book, it was really hard because they're all taken.
I'm like, this is awesome. You know, and I got to give this credit, a little bit of credit, not all of it, to the person in the back that wrote my
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guild younger. Yeah. He's one of my longtime clients. I was having the director of 10 Things I Hate About You. Yeah. Funny.
So he actually we were having a session back in, I don't know, four years ago or three years ago before I wrote the book.
And I said to him, he was going through a breakup. And I said to him, well, I want you to consider the possibility that your breakdown can be your greatest breakthrough.
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And he's like, that's the title of your book. And I was like, oh, so good. And I was like, OK, I'll write it down. And that's where that title came from.
That's where it came from. I love it. So but it's true. Right. It's like our greatest breakdown can become our greatest.
A hundred percent. And that's usually the case. And that's usually the case. And we don't have to wait for a breakdown. No. To have a breakthrough.
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Well, that's my whole thing is like, let me get to you before I get before it gets to you. Right. Right.
Like, let me wake you up to the reality of like what life is really all about.
Before something for your soul goes, wait, I'm going to mess up your life. So you listen to me. Right. So we don't have to get to that point. No, we don't.
All we need is to have the willingness, willingness to become who we really want to become.
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So it's give me a little synopsis of what the book's about. So interestingly enough, I don't really talk about my divorce in that book, but I had so many other breakdowns in my life.
That growing up in Colombia and growing up in a very dysfunctional family and bulimia for so many years, eating disorder for over 10 years until I got pregnant with my first child.
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And and then I guess the biggest one was my divorce. And that's where I drew the line. It's like, that's it. What am I doing here?
What am I doing that I keep creating this? That's when I took responsibility. I began to take responsibility for my own life, you know, and to stop being at the mercy of my circumstances.
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Yeah. Right. Okay. How can I create something different starting today? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You're not a victim to your circumstances. Right. So is this a little bit of a how to for people?
So this is a teaching memoir. And so each chapter is an experience that I had a breakdown experience that I had in my life and how I got to the other side.
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So I give exercises. Right. Like the if you're somebody that has an eating disorder, this would be a great book for you. Right.
If somebody that grew up in a very abusive with abusive parents that didn't believe in you that you didn't in an environment where you didn't get your needs met, but the people that were supposed to meet those needs.
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Yeah. Yeah. Then this could be a really great book for you. If you're a woman that has gone through a horrible divorce, that too.
So, yeah, each chapter tells a story of, you know, something that I went through and how I got to the other side and how, you know, the lessons that I got from that breakdown and how I began to recollect myself and to put myself back together to to be whole again.
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You know, it's what we truly are. We're all we were born perfect. Yeah. We're born beautiful. We're born worthy. Right. And somewhere along the way, we start to believe that we're not.
So so it's a book of healing is a book of healing. I love it. I love it. And where can people find it on Amazon? Amazon. Yeah. Your breakdown is your breakthrough.
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I love that. Look for that on Amazon and I'll put this in the show notes too for everybody. Thank you. Thank you so much for being here. So if you were to you, I asked all my guesses.
If you were to talk to yourself like six months ago, because I think evolution happens pretty quickly. You know, what's something you would tell yourself six years, six months younger self.
I would tell myself, trust the process of life. Don't be so hard on yourself. Enjoy every moment. Be present. Yeah. Be present with the little things, not just the big ones, but the small ones.
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Yeah. And celebrate every victory. Doesn't matter how small or big it is, but celebrate it and acknowledge yourself for where you are now.
Because every single day, you know, we were different. Yeah. On that path. We're ever evolving. Yeah. Yeah. I love that. Yeah.
And I think that too, when you place that energy of that forward momentum, you know, it's like it comes back to you. You know, you just got to keep pushing forward even then.
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And to be easy on yourself too, right? When things aren't going like you have a bad day, things aren't going well. It's like, yeah, to give yourself that compassion. Yeah.
That's so important. So important. Awesome. Oh, I love this conversation. Thank you so much. I think this is going to be so transformative to so many people.
And your story is beautiful. And I know you're going to change a lot of people. So you're amazing. Thank you. Thank you for having me. Of course. Of course. Of course.
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Oh, you guys, I hope you got a lot out of this. If you are in a place where you need further assistance, there's links below on my show notes that will point you to a variety of different resources for you.
And if you're trying to figure out where you are in your own mindset, you can text 55444, text shift to 55444.
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And I'm going to send you a free little assessment and you'll be able to do your own little checklist and see kind of where you land in the mindset category. And hopefully we can get you to a place where you're transforming your life and helping other people.
Thanks so much for being with us and we'll see you soon.
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Welcome to Leadership on Purpose, the podcast series. I'm your host, Catherine, and this is where we shatter the status quo and dive deep into the raw, unfiltered stories of those who are embracing their inner alignment.
If you're tired of the cookie cutter approach to success and you crave a life that resonates with your true self, you are in the right place. Join me each week as we uncover powerful insights from those who have had the courage to lean into their purpose, live authentically, and create a life they were made for.
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This isn't just a conversation.
It's a movement.
This is a revolution of authentic leadership, but we don't just talk about change. We live it.
And you can too.
Hello and welcome back to Leadership on Purpose. I'm really excited to introduce my next guest for you today, and I don't know how I keep ending up with the most incredible people that I get to have these conversations with.
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And it's again my hope that you will listen to this conversation and take away something that you didn't think about before. Maybe it changes your perspective, and maybe it encourages you to do something in your life you've been wanting to do, but either haven't had the clarity around it, haven't had the understanding why you feel that way.
You don't have the understanding why you feel that pull. So that's really why I'm having these conversations with these people because I think there's a lot of an educational component to that, that serves the rest of humanity and so that's what we're here to do is just serve the rest of humanity.
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So you are going to meet Adriana Sorge, and she's an incredible person. She actually has a degree in spiritual psychology, which I think a lot of people are like, what is that? We're going to find out exactly what that is. And now she's in the coaching role doing all things, transformation based relationships, etc.
And she actually has a great story because she was in a place where living, you know, at home with her child and her in her family and you know took had this, this time in her life where I just didn't resonate with her anymore and had to make some really big changes.
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And that catapulted her onto this journey and this transformative life that she's living now and so that's what we're going to talk about and I'm really excited for you guys to meet her so welcome. Thank you for being here.
Thank you for having me.
Of course, of course. So talk to me about a educational platform platform of spiritual psychology. What does that mean?
Yeah.
Everybody asked me that question when I tell them that I have a master's degree in spiritual psychology. So, spiritual psychology is the study of human evolution in consciousness.
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So it encompasses both traditional psychology and the spiritual principles that are designed to help you connect with the truth of who you truly are with your true essence.
And spiritual psychology is really a reminder that we're all here having a human experience that we're spiritual beings having a human experience.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And what made you decide to take to get your master's in that?
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So that's where my whole story of transformation begins. Right. I was led to go to that school because I was going through the most horrible divorce.
I went through divorce for three years back in 2006. My kids were only two and three years old and we went to court and I was my life completely shattered.
I just didn't know who I was. I didn't know I was coming next for me in my life and I identify as a mom. I didn't know what else I was going to do with my life.
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I had no idea where I was going. And somebody from my kickboxing class that was always so happy and positive and I really looked up to this person, this woman, and I asked her,
Why are you always so happy? Like, what? What? Why do you always have this radiance and this energy like life is just always good to you?
And she said to me, you know what? I want to invite you to come to this school. There is an intro evening in the next couple of days.
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We can remember what that was, but I said, OK, let me go check it out. And I went to the intro evening.
And when I walked into the intro evening to the school, you ended up in the school that I ended up in.
So I went to the intro evening and when the teachers started speaking and sharing with us about the whole program, which is a two year program, it's very serious.
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It's a big commitment. I just felt like, OK, I think I'm meant to be here. This is it. I don't know how I'm going to do this.
I don't know how I'm going to pay for it because I was going through my divorce and it was a pretty expensive course. But I said, OK, I need to do this.
I just felt the call to say yes to that. And I ended up just giving them my credit card. I paid for the two year program.
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And it was huge because I had little kids and I thought I'm just going to figure that out. Yeah. I'll figure out who I'm going to leave them with.
I'm going to, you know, pay for my credit card. And that's it. And so I went through the program. That's where everything began.
That is amazing. And what I love about that is what you just talked about showcases the power of decision.
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I just went through this with there's a mastermind that I joined a little while ago and, you know, it was expensive.
And when I I was listening to, you know, sitting through this three day intensive and I'm listening to them speak and I felt this calling so strong that I'm like, this is where I'm supposed to be.
But I'm like, well, how does this work? Like, you know, I don't know how I'm going to like how do we navigate all of the logistics around this?
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But, you know, I just decided in that moment I'm going to make this. It's the decision I make and I'm going to let the rest of that kind of fall into place.
And I do think that there's like the universe hears that. And, you know, it's like you're being guided and it's like, no, I got you. I got you.
You got to follow what the flow is for you and like how your soul is calling you.
So you joined, you take that class or you take the two hour, the two year course. And now what does your life look like after that?
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So I went through so many different changes. Right. I went through this divorce that led me to court.
I was in court for quite a bit, like almost once a month. I would have to show up in court because all of a sudden I felt like my kids were being taken away from me.
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And there was my ex husband was a very powerful man and he couldn't accept the fact that I wanted to leave him.
Right. And that lesson, we're best friends now. Oh, is that right?
Talking about 20 years ago now as this happened. And I've told my story so many times and he knows that I tell the story about how much of a jerk he was.
But he was mad. You know, he was really angry that I still a jerk today. Is he what? Is he still a jerk today or is he? No, he's a wonderful person.
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And I love him. And we're very, very good friends now. What a testament. That's amazing.
And in fact, this is, you know, you know that I'm going to Bali in January. He gave me that trip. Like he gifted me that for my birthday.
Oh, he did. Yeah. It's like, you know, I'm going to I'm going to get to that for your birthday.
And he's in a relationship. I'm in a relationship. But he just wanted to give me that for my 50th birthday because you're the mother of his children.
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And that's a bond that is incredible. Amazing. But it's hard to believe that we can be friendly now because we went through horrible, horrible divorce.
Because people don't think that people can change. Right. Right. It's like you're this way and you're like, there's no way.
But we're all evolving as souls in this human experience. Right. And absolutely.
You know, you have to let people go through what they're going to go through so that they can be who they're supposed to be.
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And, you know, giving people that grace in that space and not placing the judgment of permanency on that, I think is really important.
Yeah. And what's most, most important is that the work begins with us. Right. Yeah. Like like for us to wait for them to change in order for things to be different.
Right. Right. It's just never going to happen. Yeah. It might. It might not. Right. We don't know that. Yeah.
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But I wanted to have the freedom to be myself and to and to and to forgive, to forgive everything that I went through with him because, you know, that that was my freedom.
That was me claiming back, you know, my peace. And if I didn't forgive him, you know, that was going to be on me.
Yeah. I was going to live the rest of my life with this pain in my heart. Yeah. And that was not going to help me.
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It's not going to serve my children. It was not going to serve my my journey. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. That that's a beautiful story.
So you come through this program and you've completely you're completely on a different track now. Right.
You know, on this spiritual transformation track, which is very different and I think hard for people who are not on it or don't understand it.
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You know, once you get on it and you get ignited, you kind of can't go back. You look at life so differently.
You know, I have found that through my own transformation, I just I have such a different lens of how I perceive things through.
And I'm I think about myself, you know, five, six, seven years ago, and we're just so different people. We're different people. We're completely like I don't recognize that girl at all.
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You know, and I think her life might have been a bit easier, you know, than mine now.
But I wouldn't trade it for the understandings and the appreciation I have for the life I've been given.
So tell me about what it looks like for you now and what are you focused on now and what's your you know, we're here to to help the human collective.
So what you know, what is that?
And the beautiful thing that came out from that experience of my divorce is that it was really the catalyst for me to find myself, to really reconnect with the truth of who I am, which, you know, is something that, you know, I didn't know before I was completely lost in that marriage.
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I thought that I was just there to be the mother of my kids and to serve him.
Right. And I forgot about me. I kind of abandoned myself.
And as I go through this, this divorce, you know, basically the end of that marriage was because I started to wake up to myself and I was going to therapy and I was doing some inner work and he wasn't.
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And then I realized what I don't I don't think that this is what I want the rest of my life.
And I don't think that this is what I want my children to experience that this is what love looks like.
Right. We're not really connected and I want to be with someone that's really interested in me knowing who I am and knowing what my dreams are and knowing what what what what my soul is calling me into.
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Yeah. And I don't think he was ready to embrace all of me at the time.
But I became ready to embrace myself and I had to make a decision. It was either my marriage the way that it was without, you know, any big changes, but just without rocking the boat.
Or it was me choosing myself and choosing what, you know, life had in store for me.
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Which is such a scary thing, you know, when you're standing at the brink of that path, right? You can you're going to go this way or this way. You're going to leave your marriage or you're going to stay.
And, you know, I remember being in that position and it's like it's almost when you get to the place where you're like, I've got to go.
It's like the pull so strong, you know, despite how you, you know, I loved my partner wasn't about that. You know, it was about me. Right.
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And but the damage, you know, that you think you're going to cause like, oh, the children and upsetting the life and then the friend groups and, you know, all the all of the social norms that get broken down.
It's a scary, scary place for people. Yeah. And, you know, I think a lot of people stay because they're too scared of that. Yeah. You know. Yeah.
But it's like if you're if you're getting that now that you're meant to do something different, you know, and I don't get that question a lot. Like, how do you know it's not just you being, you know, I just want something for like a temporary fix or I really this is something calling to change my life.
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Yeah. Like, how would you answer that question? I think I really wanted to experience what true love felt like.
And I didn't think that I was experiencing that with him. And it really began with me learning to love myself and to embrace all of me, which, you know, there was so many aspects of me that I worked sort of I was sort of denying and not accepting.
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And when I began to do that and to really love myself unconditionally, that's when I really knew that I was that that marriage had served a purpose that we had come to a place where we were not serving each other souls evolution. Right.
And not, you know, I knew that I was holding my soul back. And if I know that I'm holding my soul back, then I'm holding his soul back. Even if he didn't understand it in those terms at the time. Yeah. Right. He might not even understand it today. Right.
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And that's OK. But for me, it was very important that I continue to follow the way that I felt in the inside and my, you know, everything, everything was pointing my way out of that marriage. Yeah. You know, and I knew that I was very, very confident in that decision.
And I knew that I didn't feel guilty about my kids until later, you know, when he started taking the kids for a week, you know, and I felt like my kids were babies. You know, my son was only two years old.
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And it was like all of a sudden I go I go from from like a stay at home mom that was with her kids 24 seven to not seeing them or hearing from them five days in a row every other week to a point where my son one day asked me, Mommy, how come you don't want to see us anymore?
And that broke my heart. And that was the day that I decided to go back to court and get more custody because I knew that the kids needed to have more time with me. And he was just busy leaving them with the babysitter.
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And I felt why do they need to be with the babysitter where they can be with me? And I have the time and I'm here for them. And I'm a devoted mother.
And so I went back to court and and I've tested this part of that question because the day that I showed up to that final court hearing, which was about custody, we had so many different hearings about money, about the business, everything.
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But this was the most important for me. It was about the custody.
And my attorney said to me, you're not going to get your kids back. It's not going to happen. He's a good father. There's he doesn't have any addictions. He's normal.
Like the judge is not going to give you more custody. But I had I had this inner guidance that kept telling me the opposite.
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I just kept hearing keep going, keep going, keep going. This is what's best for the kids.
So I go to this final thing in court and I could feel that my attorney wasn't really doing much for me because he was, you know, set in the fact that I was not going to get more custody.
So I felt something inside me that said stand up right now. Oh, and this is this is inside the courtroom where he's like sitting on the other side across from me with his attorney who was incredibly.
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I mean, I cannot even tell you. She really wanted to destroy me and to take everything from me.
And in the back, there were people, you know, just just listening and watching.
And in that moment, it just became about me and the judge. I disconnected from everything else.
And I just focus my attention in my heart and speaking my truth from the heart to the judge.
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So I stood up and I said, man, I have a word, your honor. And he looked into my eyes and said, yeah, he acknowledged me.
And he said, oh, sure. And so I started to talk and I said, here's the thing. I don't I don't want to take my kids away from him.
They deserve to have time with their father. But my kids are now they're suffering.
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My son wants to take it as he doesn't understand why I'm not he doesn't see me as much anymore.
And I told him what he said to me. And I spoke from my heart in a way that I've never done before.
I was truly connected to my inner guidance and to my truth. And in that moment, I could feel that the judge hurt me.
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And I believe that when we speak from the heart, the truth, we land in the heart of someone else.
You know, that truth lands in the heart of someone else. And he hurt me in that moment. I could feel it.
So then he said, OK, we're going to take a little break. And when you guys come back, I'm going to give my final decision.
So we went we go out in the hallway and my attorney is upset with me. Of course.
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He's like, I can't believe you just did that. I told you not to stand up, not to do anything.
This is I am the one that is in charge. I'm doing everything. You just blew it for yourself.
And I said to my attorney, don't talk to me right now. Yeah, I'm focused.
I know what I'm doing. I don't need to hear that. Right. I knew it.
I knew it. I was going to get more costly. I already knew I already had that inner knowing.
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So we go back inside and the judge says, I'm going to give more cost to the mother. My legs were shaking.
I mean, I was just like, I couldn't believe it. This was the power of speaking from your heart, of being fully connected to your truth and like really owning it.
And he said to me, I'm going to give 65 percent to the mother and today starting today because they were with him after school.
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You're dropping the kids off to her. Amazing. And I was just shaking.
And so I I walk out of the courtroom and I said to my friend, thank you. I got to go get in my car.
And I just sat in my car and I was crying, just crying. I'm going to cry right now. Thank you.
Thank you, God. Such a beautiful story. I was just so grateful for that moment. That was the moment when I realized that I had a big purpose here
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and that I was a powerful being and that I was capable of doing anything I wanted with my life.
That was the moment that I knew that I could fight, that I could stand up for my truth and that I could make impact in my life.
So you were this is oh, my God, you really did make me cry because I can't imagine my child ever saying that to me and how devastating and how hard heartbreaking that is.
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And, you know, to get to the place where there's so many people suffering right now, right, that are like, I can't do this. I don't want to lose my kids.
I don't. But and they're they're relying on external validation.
And so what you're talking about is aligning yourself internally and listening to your inner guidance and following that and saying, you know,
there's a force greater than me. There's a power greater than me.
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And, you know, when you tap into that and you understand what that is, it will always take you to where you need to go.
100 percent. It will always protect you. Absolutely.
If you're someone watching, listening to the story, that's like, OK, that's amazing.
And now she's doing all these things and she's got this masters and this beautiful program.
And, you know, now she's a big coach and great. Well, like, how do I how does that help the everyday person?
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How does that how do we help the everyday person who's like, I've never heard anything inside me before.
I don't know how to get in touch with like my, you know, who I am authentically.
I don't know how to listen to myself. How do you help them? Yeah.
Breathe. Connect with your body and just notice your body is always giving you feedback and the feedback shows up through how you feel.
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Right. I'm a relationship coach. And one of the things that women want to hear the most is, is this right for me?
This person, is he right for me or is he not? How do you feel when you're in his presence?
How does your body feel? Does it feel excited? Does it feel open or does it feel closed off?
Do you feel like you can be yourself and really express who you are?
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Or do you feel like you are contracting in the inside when you are in the presence?
So really trusting, finding that trust inside because trust, where does it live?
It lives inside ourselves. It doesn't live out there. Right.
And we're always like looking outside of ourselves.
So it's like go within and begin to become curious about you.
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Who am I today? Who am I? What am I doing here? Yeah. Yeah.
And that presence, like cultivating the presence of the moment.
You know, there's it gets so cliche like live in the present, live in the.
It's the most important thing you if you actually understand it that you can actually ever do.
There are times I'll be driving and I'll find myself getting caught up in my thoughts, which, you know, the cyber synetic loop or the cybernetic loop.
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Your thoughts, your beliefs, create your thoughts, create your feelings, create your actions and your actions really are just more congruent with the belief that you have. Right.
So, you know, when I get to that place where I'm I'm finding that my thoughts are changing my mood and my energy.
So I'm like, wait, I'm associating a belief to a thought that doesn't serve me.
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And it's changing how I feel like that's how crazy I am right now.
Like, I'm so in tune with how I'm thinking. I love that.
Because if I get into a place that I don't feel good or I don't feel I'm I'm really I really dig deep to go.
What am I feeling? Why am I feeling this way?
What's the thought pattern and what's the belief system that I need to unpack to make sure that I can change the way I feel right now?
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Totally. And the best way to do that is sometimes I just do this in the car.
Like, I'm just like, no, I'm going to stay present in this moment.
I'm going to stay because right now in this moment, I can control everything I think, you know, the way that I feel and how I'm listening to my own inner guidance and where it's telling me to go.
And I love your story. It's so beautiful.
It's so incredible because it shows that no matter who you are, no matter where you are in your life, everyone has that superpower.
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And it's a superpower. And it's like we're now getting to this place where we're waking up to it, where people are now understanding I'm not a victim to this life.
I am a co-creator. One hundred percent. I love that. Yeah.
When you can step into that with a full understanding that life is happening for you and through you, not to you.
Yes. You know, that's when you get like that's when you're unstoppable and you're like, no, nothing.
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You know, like, I don't care what you know. Everybody's a reflection, right?
Everybody's a mirror. It's like you can pick up pieces of what's going on in your internal world by the conversations you have and the people that are showing that to you externally.
It's really a fascinating experiment of humankind right now.
You think it's fascinating. It's fascinating. It is.
But, you know, you're in the driver's seat of your own movie and that's the best thing ever. So, yeah, that's just as a great story.
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I'm so glad you stood up in court for that little boy. I'm so glad.
And how old is he now? He's 21. He's 21. That little two year old face.
Yeah, he's 21 and my daughter is 22. Amazing. Yeah. Amazing.
I'm so glad. I'm so glad that I did that. I stood up because it was a really beautiful journey, you know, raising my kids and being able to to just have that time,
the time that I really had to spend with them as I was becoming, you know, the woman that I am today.
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And they got to experience and witness my transformation, which is, you know, my 22 year old daughter today tells me, Mom, you're so different.
You're so different than you were when I was 10 years old, when I was a teenager.
The education platform that was for them. Yeah. Like that.
What you showed them was more than they could ever learn in school. Absolutely. You know? Yeah.
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So it's really beautiful. Tell me about your book. Your breakdown is your breakthrough.
I think this I mean, how were you the first person to get the name of a title of a book like that? Right.
Because every there's so many books out there. And I know in the process of choosing the title for my book, it was really hard because they're all taken.
I'm like, this is awesome. You know, and I got to give this credit, a little bit of credit, not all of it, to the person in the back that wrote my
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guild younger. Yeah. He's one of my longtime clients. I was having the director of 10 Things I Hate About You. Yeah. Funny.
So he actually we were having a session back in, I don't know, four years ago or three years ago before I wrote the book.
And I said to him, he was going through a breakup. And I said to him, well, I want you to consider the possibility that your breakdown can be your greatest breakthrough.
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And he's like, that's the title of your book. And I was like, oh, so good. And I was like, OK, I'll write it down. And that's where that title came from.
That's where it came from. I love it. So but it's true. Right. It's like our greatest breakdown can become our greatest.
A hundred percent. And that's usually the case. And that's usually the case. And we don't have to wait for a breakdown. No. To have a breakthrough.
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Well, that's my whole thing is like, let me get to you before I get before it gets to you. Right. Right.
Like, let me wake you up to the reality of like what life is really all about.
Before something for your soul goes, wait, I'm going to mess up your life. So you listen to me. Right. So we don't have to get to that point. No, we don't.
All we need is to have the willingness, willingness to become who we really want to become.
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So it's give me a little synopsis of what the book's about. So interestingly enough, I don't really talk about my divorce in that book, but I had so many other breakdowns in my life.
That growing up in Colombia and growing up in a very dysfunctional family and bulimia for so many years, eating disorder for over 10 years until I got pregnant with my first child.
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And and then I guess the biggest one was my divorce. And that's where I drew the line. It's like, that's it. What am I doing here?
What am I doing that I keep creating this? That's when I took responsibility. I began to take responsibility for my own life, you know, and to stop being at the mercy of my circumstances.
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Yeah. Right. Okay. How can I create something different starting today? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You're not a victim to your circumstances. Right. So is this a little bit of a how to for people?
So this is a teaching memoir. And so each chapter is an experience that I had a breakdown experience that I had in my life and how I got to the other side.
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So I give exercises. Right. Like the if you're somebody that has an eating disorder, this would be a great book for you. Right.
If somebody that grew up in a very abusive with abusive parents that didn't believe in you that you didn't in an environment where you didn't get your needs met, but the people that were supposed to meet those needs.
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Yeah. Yeah. Then this could be a really great book for you. If you're a woman that has gone through a horrible divorce, that too.
So, yeah, each chapter tells a story of, you know, something that I went through and how I got to the other side and how, you know, the lessons that I got from that breakdown and how I began to recollect myself and to put myself back together to to be whole again.
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You know, it's what we truly are. We're all we were born perfect. Yeah. We're born beautiful. We're born worthy. Right. And somewhere along the way, we start to believe that we're not.
So so it's a book of healing is a book of healing. I love it. I love it. And where can people find it on Amazon? Amazon. Yeah. Your breakdown is your breakthrough.
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I love that. Look for that on Amazon and I'll put this in the show notes too for everybody. Thank you. Thank you so much for being here. So if you were to you, I asked all my guesses.
If you were to talk to yourself like six months ago, because I think evolution happens pretty quickly. You know, what's something you would tell yourself six years, six months younger self.
I would tell myself, trust the process of life. Don't be so hard on yourself. Enjoy every moment. Be present. Yeah. Be present with the little things, not just the big ones, but the small ones.
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Yeah. And celebrate every victory. Doesn't matter how small or big it is, but celebrate it and acknowledge yourself for where you are now.
Because every single day, you know, we were different. Yeah. On that path. We're ever evolving. Yeah. Yeah. I love that. Yeah.
And I think that too, when you place that energy of that forward momentum, you know, it's like it comes back to you. You know, you just got to keep pushing forward even then.
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And to be easy on yourself too, right? When things aren't going like you have a bad day, things aren't going well. It's like, yeah, to give yourself that compassion. Yeah.
That's so important. So important. Awesome. Oh, I love this conversation. Thank you so much. I think this is going to be so transformative to so many people.
And your story is beautiful. And I know you're going to change a lot of people. So you're amazing. Thank you. Thank you for having me. Of course. Of course. Of course.
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Oh, you guys, I hope you got a lot out of this. If you are in a place where you need further assistance, there's links below on my show notes that will point you to a variety of different resources for you.
And if you're trying to figure out where you are in your own mindset, you can text 55444, text shift to 55444.
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And I'm going to send you a free little assessment and you'll be able to do your own little checklist and see kind of where you land in the mindset category. And hopefully we can get you to a place where you're transforming your life and helping other people.
Thanks so much for being with us and we'll see you soon.
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