February 3, 2025 • 38 mins
In this captivating episode of Leadership on Purpose, host Kathryn Ficarra sits down with actor, writer, and filmmaker Karola Rainmond for a deeply personal and inspiring conversation about authentic leadership and personal transformation.
Karola recounts a pivotal experience at a Balinese cremation ceremony that sparked her spiritual awakening, reshaping her once-linear German mindset into a more circular understanding of life and purpose. This profound shift transformed not only her personal life but also her approach to acting and creativity.
The discussion dives into how the pandemic has prompted a global reassessment of work-life integration, with Carola sharing insights on staying present in challenging times. Drawing from her experience of performing while her father was hospitalized, she highlights the transformative power of meditation and mindfulness in staying grounded through personal adversity.
Together, Kathryn and Karola explore the role of mindset in navigating rejection, particularly in the entertainment industry, and discuss how releasing control and embracing presence can create a healthier, more empowered perspective. They also unpack the impact of limiting beliefs on growth and share actionable strategies for transforming fear into freedom.
This episode is a masterclass in leading with intention, aligning with purpose, and cultivating presence—even when life feels uncertain. Whether you’re a creative professional or a leader seeking clarity, this conversation will leave you inspired to embrace your own inner transformation.
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Welcome to Leadership on Purpose, the podcast series. I'm your host, Kathryn, and this is where we shatter the status quo and dive deep into the raw, unfiltered stories of those who are embracing their inner alignment.
If you're tired of the cookie cutter approach to success and you crave a life that resonates with your true self, you are in the right place. Join me each week as we uncover powerful insights from those who have had the courage to lean into their purpose, live authentically, and create a life they were made for.
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This isn't just a conversation.
It's a movement.
This is a revolution of authentic leadership, but we don't just talk about change, we live it.
And you can too.
I'm so excited for you to meet my friend, Karola. She is joining us. She's an actor. She's a writer. She's a filmmaker. She's a producer. She hails from Germany. She is Italian American. She grew up in Germany and in New York.
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She has always wanted to be an actor and she found a way to really tap into her inner being and make that dream come true. So you can actually also see her on her award-winning film that she wrote, produced, and starred in, The Cuddler. And thank you for joining us.
It's so good to see you.
So good seeing you.
So we have a fun little history because back how many years now? 11 years ago when I was in my corporate job and we were shooting a commercial that we needed in order to brand the company and I casted you in a series of how, I don't know, we probably shot over four or five different spots in Vegas and LA.
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And the famous one is where I get my face licked.
You got your face licked in a casino.
Which was very controversial, right?
It was very controversial. We had to pull the spot down. It was the whole thing.
But it was really fun. And that's when I first got to really know you and I've been watching you on your journey for the past couple of years. And I'm really excited you decided to pop in and talk to us today.
Thank you for inviting me. This is wonderful to be here and reconnect and also like seeing that you journeyed from the corporate world into now your individual.
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I know.
That's exciting.
That's its own transformation.
I know. And it's brave. As we know, it's always brave to listen to the call.
Yes, listen to the call. And that's really my whole goal with this is, you know, I think our viewers are a mix of managers and leaders because it's called Leadership on Purpose.
But my focus isn't just leaders in the business world because I'm a big believer that you're a leader in your life, right?
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You lead your family. You lead your friends. You lead your spouse.
And you're the star of your own show. So what's that script look like? And there's not a lot of people that write that script.
They let the script be written for them. And then they are just, you know, a reactive person in this 3D construct that we live in.
And so I really want to encourage people to listen to the stories of everybody and say, hey, you know what, I kind of identify or I resonate with that.
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And I think that's something that I can probably, you know, implement into my day to day so that I can shift just a little bit more into something into a place that I'm feeling more fulfilled and, you know, approaching life from from that place of purpose and fulfillment so that we live the life that we were made to live.
And so and a lot of people I've been able to talk to through this series have done a lot of extraordinary things. But I think it's because of the the identification of the awareness that you have and, you know, the the idea that you're really leading into who you are as a person and what you were really made to do.
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It's like when you can really tie yourself authentically, you know, into your purpose and you tie that to your work, then that's when like the real magic happens. True. And trust in your inner voice.
Because there's so many out of voices that tell you, oh, you should be doing this or why don't you do that?
And also, I think as a society in general, the concepts that we have ideas.
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But I do believe they're shifting right now. I believe we're. I think there's a shift in the level of the consciousness as a whole right now. And that's why, you know, when you look at the trending topics, even on LinkedIn, I'm pretty active on there.
And, you know, the most engaged posts, a lot of them are around personal growth in the work in the workspace. Right. And I think there's a need for that.
So, yeah. But anyway, you had something really interesting happen to you in Bali. So I want to talk about that. Take me through that story and your transformation and how it changed the way that you think.
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Well, I think Bali was just that was just before I moved to L.A. But before Bali, I felt I was very much just I grew up in Germany for the most part, a very linear kind of thinking like you do this and then you do that. And you have to just check mark all these things.
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And then there's a linear path. And but part of me, thinking back, always knew that there's more. But I it wasn't palpable. I didn't grow up with any kind of specific belief. My parents both left church.
But now thinking back, I was always spiritual. I always knew that there's more. And and then when I went to Bali, I just had that I was able to see a cremation ceremony. And it was kind of it was so different to anything else I ever seen in my life.
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I can't even imagine because they're Hindus. So they believe in reincarnation and it's a celebration. So they invited us as tourists to be part of their celebration.
And it was a relatively young woman that died. She was in her late 40s and they the whole village put actually money together for her to have her own cremation ceremony, because usually, you know, if you're of a lower case, you can't have that own kind of
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cremation ceremony. So she was loved. They did that it was like we walked through the town and they had offerings and they were singing and dancing. And then we went down to the to the ocean. And there was some prayers and then they put the body on fire.
And wow. And then later on, like that's what you saw the body burn. We didn't see the body because it was in like a bamboo kind of coffin. So you didn't see the bodies in a coffin in a coffin burned. Yes, that bamboo kind of coffee. So it's not a coffin.
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How we know from the Western world. It was sad bamboo kind of a casing. Yes. And we left then. But what we were told is so they wait until the body is cremated and then then closest family with the priest, the white priest goes out on the ocean in a boat and they
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scatter, scatter the ashes and it's about returning back to the elements. So they believe everything is circular, that there is not that linear. It's everything is circular. We, we come and we go. But it's, yeah, we, every time it's like a journey. It's like a phase.
I call it now school. Earth is school and we come back many times and it's kind of learning lessons. It's soul evolution. So how did that change your thinking? You go do that incredible experience. You come back to L.A. and then what? What do you do with that?
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Well, that was before I moved to L.A. That was but I would say now that was the beginning of my spiritual journey. And then I started doing yoga when I moved to L.A. And I had the thing about L.A. I kind of feel that is so fascinating. I believe L.A. attracts very old and very young souls. So you meet people that you can just tell they've experienced a lot. They have so much depth. And then there's a lot of superficiality to I call those.
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The young souls that are just the glitter and the glam. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I met some amazing people that I feel also, you know, nurtured that journey. If you're a seeker and I think I've always been a seeker, I always believe that there's more more than this little concept of idea.
Oh, we come here for this one lifetime and you better get your university degree and you better have a job all your life and make sure you save for retirement and make sure you have your, you know, your your house with the white picket fence that there is more to this.
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And and I feel, especially during the pandemic, a lot of people kind of suddenly had time to reflect on their lives. And I think that's when a lot of people started thinking, is this job really what I want to do for the rest of my life?
Is it fulfilling me? Is there more? And these questions that begins the journey. And then you kind of, you know, venture either you shut it down because you get so scared and like, oh, my God, I can't. What will the other what will my neighbors?
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What will my parents think? What? How will I pay my bills? You know, a lot of fears come up. But that is where you lean in. You know, and it's kind of OK. What are my fears? Like, what am I really scared of? What I really what do I really want?
Right. Like start asking these questions. And that's that. Yeah. Yeah. I think it's an interesting time because it was the one time where, you know, people who were working at home now blended. It was like this gray area. Right.
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Like now you're talking to people inside their bedrooms. You're talking to people in their kitchens. Their cats are on the camera. I mean, they're drinking wine out of a coffee glass. Like it was, you know, it just it kind of it started to change the game in a lot of ways for people to realize that, you know, my life, I think I'm going to approach more holistically because I'm working in my personal life. And they're kind of blending. And, you know, what I've seen a lot of with my clients is they've come out of that and have said,
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I want to live my life a little bit differently. I want more of that. I want more of a fulfillment aspect of my life. I want to be able to approach it from this place where I work and live. And I think that's been a really interesting perspective of what covid did as well.
But talk to me a little bit about that transformation for you. And we were we were talking about mindset. So where does mindset play into what you do every day? I mean, the entertainment industry is probably more of a challenge to navigate.
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And you probably have more. I read somewhere you have more rejection in a day than most people have in a month or in a year or in a lifetime. For sure.
So how do you how do you navigate that and then still get up every day and be like, OK, this is what I want to do. This is my purpose. You know, where does that play into your mindset?
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I think the biggest realization was that you know, where do you hear that all the time? You can't take it personally.
And but on a bigger, bigger scale, it's like you really have to love it so much and know that that's deeply down. You feel that's what you're meant to be doing, but also find a lot of things that you do that.
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You know, where you have more the short term kind of pleasures like, you know, writing is something that, you know, where I that's where I can go in and do that kind of work.
And it's I don't have to like put it out there right away. Like it's a different because as an actor, you always have to, you know, be there, be ready. And often it's kind of like, you know, nothing, patience, patience, patience.
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And then, OK, you have to be there right there and you have to be on. And it's there's you have no control at all. So just to understand that not something's you have control over and some things you don't.
And I think that realization and to, you know, learn to just be not so much in that space of, oh, my God, they don't like me or something like, you know, it.
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How do you handle it when you said something now that made me think of this question, but how do you know it when you're you have to be on right. But maybe you've had a bad day and you're just not your headspace is not, you know, like not working for you. It's not supporting this role that you have to now go and be in, you know, be in a movie or something like what are the tools you use?
And I'm sure there's that happens to a lot of us, right? Like, yeah, it does happen. You go to a meeting and something just happened in your personal life and you're just not feeling it like what are the tools you use to get yourself into a place where you can really be present.
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It's a mass that because I want to clarify when we talk about presence, the reason that I love the idea of being present and I think it's getting a little cliched. But when you're present, you're actually not letting the thoughts of the past or the future.
Yeah, the meditative state, a meditative state. And that's exactly what acting to me is as well, because I let go of my life and my everyday thoughts. And I become that that character that I'm portraying.
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And I have a perfect example. This last film that I was shooting, the first day of shooting, my dad went into the hospital and my dad was very, he had Alzheimer's and it was very, very emotional and didn't know what was going on.
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And it was my first day of shooting. So I had to kind of put all that aside. I had to turn my phone off. I was on set and and I what I think I've been what I did, what I think I do just because I practice meditation a lot and that I kind of let go for that time.
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There was nothing that I could do. And I have and I went into that, what we call meditative state of being present and just being in the moment and because otherwise I couldn't have, you know, have a good performance through that.
No, I think that's important for people to understand when you're in that present moment because that's all we really have. That's the only thing that's real.
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Yeah, it's what you have right here right now. And where you are right here right now, it's like you have everything you need. You're okay. You know, it's like that present moment is always going to be the moment that saves you because it is you. Right. That is your moment.
And you know, there's a saying like, you know, anxiety comes when you're already anticipating you're in the future and depression comes from when you're living in the past.
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So it's so important that present moment is really all, as you just said, I love that, all we have. We really have. Yeah. And it's hard to like when you're living your life and you're navigating all the challenges of just work and kids and family and things that go wrong and finances and, you know, to get yourself to that place.
And it's like everybody's tool sets going to look different. You know, how do you, what are the tools you use to get yourself there?
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Well, I feel I've trained my mind so much through meditation. I do a lot of yoga. And I think also a lot of experiences that I've had a lot of moments of extreme uncertainty. Like I moved to LA all by myself. I didn't have anyone that I could call me like, hey, I need help.
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Like in the beginning, I knew one person. So it's you kind of, there is something I believe that happens when you start really also understanding that there you hold a certain kind of power within and you either let your mind run wild, your thoughts and all what could go wrong or what you're worried about.
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Or you kind of, it's almost like you really start living in the presence as much as you can. And no one can do it all the time. And, you know, things happen and you get kind of thrown off.
But for the most time that you really tried to, when you talk to someone to be there with them without already anticipation or thinking the next thought. And that really, I think, I mean, as far as I know, it's like a muscle.
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You know, you train yourself, you train it. And that's why you start meditation in the beginning just with a few minutes, you know, just in a mantra. Like I do a lot of Kundalini yoga where you work with mantras a lot where you just kind of start.
And the more and more you do that, you just realize, oh, you know, when I'm present, I actually, you know, can move through so many things so much better than if I would drive myself already crazy thinking all these thoughts, especially if you're not right now in that situation dealing or able.
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So often we have to wait to deal with something. There is something that came up, but we know we can't address that until maybe tomorrow. So what you want to spend the rest of the day and evening tormenting yourself.
Right.
Well, of course, like with certain things, you may have to sit down and make some decisions or some thoughts, but then you have to let it go. So then either and for people, it's different. Some people, when they go running, they can really go into a meditative state. I think the most important thing is to find what works for you because we're all so there.
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Yes, because we're all such unique snowflakes. I always love to say that.
I read that you wrote that. Yeah, I thought that was really cute. But it's true. We're all made so uniquely and differently. And we each have our purpose right in that snowflakes is a purpose and that purpose is tied to fulfillment. That's why we're here.
And, you know, being present such an interesting conversation because you can tell when you're talking to somebody if they're present or not, you know, like you'd be having dinner with someone if they're checking their phone all the time or like there's like an emptiness behind their eyes, you know, and it's the energy changes.
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Yeah. And so if there's so much benefit in really allowing yourself to be aware of that even for yourself, like I found myself having like well we did earlier right we were having conversation I'm like wait I just lost my presence right I gotta like I gotta take care of something and then I want to come back to this.
And I think having you know it is a muscle like I was never like that before it's taken me I mean hours of meditation and understanding and digging deep into, you know, my own self awareness journey to figure that out but I wouldn't trade that for anything because I like the idea
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I love the idea of when I'm having a conversation that I give myself permission to put the pause on all the story that's going on in my head, and I'm pretty careful about that story and I'm, you know, definitely aware of making sure it's a story that works for me and not a story that doesn't.
So I cultivated that story but I don't want it running when I'm talking to somebody I want to hear what they say and I want to be able to absorb that and have like a true conversation. So, so I love that you know you, you mentioned that too and that you have the same approach to that.
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Yeah, it's really important.
Yeah. But you just touched upon with the story you're telling yourself that's, you know, once you are able to be in that present moment also to realize when the stories come up what stories are you telling yourself.
Yeah, that's well and that so I, I took this whole course, this is, I didn't make this up this was a David Bayer thing but you know he talks a lot about the, the limiting beliefs that we have right which is the story that you tell yourself.
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And I hope the narrative on that. How do you decide like okay I've been telling myself I'm not good enough and I'm not going to make this, you know next move in my career because I just don't think I'm good enough. And one way that you know he's talked about that I have found so helpful and I've used this many times is you make the decision,
right, you're like no I'm now going to make a new decision that I am good enough, and your brain is like a SEO machine, so you have to like put it to work for you and not just let it run you. So you have to like find the existing evidence, I think actually
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Hicks talks about this too but you find the existing evidence of the situation similar to one to the one that you're struggling with in ways that you were good enough right so it's like wait no no I'm telling myself I'm not good enough, but in this situation.
I'm like, okay, I was good enough and then here's where I was good enough and now it's like no why would I say I'm not good enough it's not true right so you're giving yourself this matrix that's like, okay, I'm just going to make this new decision.
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And this decision is supported by my previous actions, and you just create a new belief system on that and I love that idea because it's so simple yet it's so complicated and hard for so many people, you know, to be able to like show up the way they want to show up because
they're labeled with this terrible story that doesn't serve them. And so a lot I mean I just, I just wrapped up a keynote speech I was working on that's really centered around limiting beliefs because it's exactly what a lot of people struggle with right it's
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a paradigm that runs in your system, you hold on to these kind of limiting beliefs and because you hold on to them you cannot get to where you want to get to right. It's, but it's also kind of scary because sometimes letting go of certain beliefs even if they're limiting.
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That's what you kind of build your whole, whole personality kind of concept around. Correct. So it's like you have to let go of all of it and you have to kind of maybe be in that free falling kind of state well and it's hard I think for a lot of people to to be like
well how do I know I have a limiting belief, and the best way to know that is look at your reaction. Right. You have a trigger or a deep seated crazy reaction to something.
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And there's you've you're carrying a belief system around that topic and then you just got to dig deep and figure out what that is but you know I mean my the last two years three year four years maybe I've, you know, been deep on that work and just like, you know, being like an
investigator like why am I that why is that my reaction how do I flip the narrative on that what's the new story I'm telling myself but you have to be really conscious of that it's a lot of work it's a lot of work and it's, you know, ongoing work that I would say never completely goes away but we get
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better with it and we, we kind of shift every day you just shift a little bit more. Yeah. And that's like that kind of growth like you look, and you don't see it every day. No, but then in like six months you're like, Oh my gosh look at how much I've changed, you know,
and how you through challenges that you would have thought previously oh my god I could never move through that right. But, yeah, it's.
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And that's where you have to also understand to kind of, you know, pat yourself on the back and be kind of like, Oh, this is how far, how far I have come, you know, to give yourself credit because I feel we're so good at being harsh, you know, hard on ourselves,
right and seeing all that we, you know, maybe have not achieved yet or have not gotten to yet. Yeah. But what about, you know, really acknowledging those small steps on the way. Yeah, because that's what takes you.
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Yeah, and then you can say wow I've come this far, and where do I want to go like where's, what's the clarity around that I was just talking to someone else about journaling and we were saying how journaling is so important because it really does provide an outlet for you to
gain that clarity. Like I mean, you talk to people who are like I don't really know what I want to do in my life or I don't know where I want to be a year from now.
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It actually saddens me because I'm like whoa wait you've got like have that clarity for you to know, you know what it is you were born here for you were put here for a specific reason and what truly fulfills you and that's exactly what the role is like, what's your purpose and how does it
fulfill you and that's the life you want to live. That's peace that's like inner joy that's inner peace that's that's when all the things come to you.
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So I believe that there's even so things maybe can be hard at times but if you lean into the direction that is really truly what you feel as you're calling, suddenly there will be interesting alignments happening.
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It's not an easy journey per se but you will just you notice a synchronicity. Yes. I'm like oh how interesting that that just came up or that I met this person. Yeah.
Or I read this message. Yep. Well it's been interesting when I decided I wanted to go open up my own you know consulting studio and do all of this. I thought about it for a long time and I was like I don't know maybe I should just stay in the W2 world and.
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And so it came so I was driving and just dropped my son off at school and I was stopped at a late and it came like a thought in my head again it's like no you really I felt called and I was like okay I'm going to listen to this call and then I opened my
eyes and I'm like I'm going to listen to this because I'm feeling so called and around me was like the number one everywhere like the cars a tie it was like ones everywhere and I was like I've never seen anything like that.
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And I was like well that's weird. I guess I guess maybe I'm on the right path. And then there was a commercial for one part of the business I was you know struggling with trying to figure out and ended up getting connected with these people and it all just I just leaned into it and it kind of happened.
And then there was like repeating I see 444 everywhere like you know what I mean it's like you're open for that that's the one thing you have to open up yeah to actually receive and again I'm going back to we are so trained in our left brain kind of thinking that it needs to make sense it needs to have facts and
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to logicalize it needs to it needs to land in a way that's like chronological and linear and all the things that you can explain that it makes sense. But once so much of life is not like no and once that was for me a big epiphany the more I really follow like my intuition.
Yeah, and trusting my intuition and the knowing and checking in with me. And that's when I realized like also that's when you start having a different kind of confidence, because it's not from just these facts or you don't have to rely on what your physical world is just showing you at this moment in time.
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You know, my knowing is so strong that I know this is what I meant for and so whatever this 3D world is, is showing up as at this red hot moment, it doesn't have it's not final. It's like it's going to change and I'm going to change it.
And I think that's where so many people get stuck because they're like, No, I, you know, this is my life and there's nothing I can do about it and I'm, you know, I don't like my job I don't have enough money I don't.
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But it's a story but you're telling all the things why something cannot right. And that's your life because you put yourself there you're a co creator of your own experience right so I don't know I love these conversations because they're so first of all validating that you know you can live in this.
You can live a life that can be whatever it is you want it to be, and that you can, you know, you have, you have your own part in that and like I love when other people have the same experience and I just want to share that message because I think I want people to realize you don't have to be stuck like you're not stuck this is not the end you change your story at any time.
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So there's I think that expression about that there's this. It was like, you can only that there's that glass ceiling, kind of, and, and it also is connect with our nervous system and everything where you know you feel triggered and then it's just seems so much better to stay where you are even so you're unhappy.
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Then as you're comfortable there yeah because at least you know what that's funny about the nervous system. So your sympathetic nervous system is there to keep you alive so back in like the stone ages right when like you're going to get chased by a bear, you needed your sympathetic
nervous system to rely on because what happens is when you get that fight or flight feeling your system actually shuts down and it sends all its energy to like your heart and your brain.
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So you can actually pull through a physical activity you need to to stay alive. Right. Not because you got a bad email, not because you got a bill in the mail but that's how we're living these days as we're getting that fight or flight and we're getting this like the scare, the scarcity
in us because we are, you know, we don't know how to handle these things so when you when that's like really coming from like a state of fear. But when you're in, you're operating off of your parasympathetic nervous system which is when you're, you know, in homeostasis and you're calm and it's your
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place of genius and power and creativity, you know, you make this you make better decisions you're coming at your, you're approaching your life the way you're supposed to approach your life, but we don't live in that place. We live in this like scary reactive place and we're
overwhelmed so often. I mean we're living in a world where we are bombarded all the time with so much information and that's why a strong nervous system is so important like to find a practice that helps to balance the nervous system so that you understand when things come
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towards you that it doesn't, it's, you have techniques how to calm yourself down and soothe yourself so that you don't, because otherwise you just burn yourself out and so many of us are burned out because that constant, we're in this fight flight mode so much.
Yeah and I think that's where breath work really does come into play and it sounds so woo I know some of this conversation so woo. Not to me. I mean it's kind of like the intangibles of the human experience are very legitimate right? Yeah. And I actually this morning I did before we started shooting today there was a breath work class and so I joined it and it was fascinating. It was an hour long. I was like oh my gosh can I do this for an hour? It was so good though like it got me to such like a still place that when it was done I was like, wow I felt so calm and so proud.
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I was like, calm and so present and I'm like how do I take this with me the rest of the day like I should start my day like this every day. I know. And there was some stuff that happened beforehand that I was already feeling like agitated, nervous, like you know and it just literally like you know kind of calmed it all down so I think it's important to have those tools that we can use for ourselves that allow us to get to that place that's so important.
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And it's nice to see I feel there is more and more openness towards these kind of practices. It's becoming a little bit more acceptable, more mainstream, more people are you know understanding the benefits really.
And you just I always say you have to just experience it like because you can't really explain it to someone you need to have the experience.
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Well people are thirsty for transformation, they're thirsty for change, they want you know they want to be fulfilled. I mean that's because we are more than just this physical body and you know we like that little soul in there it's going to if you don't listen to the calling it's going to put you in a place where you have no choice to listen.
So I'm kind of like hey people don't get into that place, don't get so far down that it comes looking for you. Like get yourself to a place where you're like okay I'm going to listen to myself and let it guide me and let that inner knowing guide me and find my soul purpose before my soul's like I'm going to put you in a lifetime out for a little bit and you're going to listen to me.
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It's so true.
That's what happens.
Yeah.
Well, I really appreciate you stopping by today. Thank you. I know you're busy right now and this was perfect and it's just great to see you. I haven't seen you in so long. So two things I'm going to ask you last few things.
Okay.
Number one, what is, what would you tell yourself six months ago, and I asked this question and every show because I believe that we're always evolving and that some people think that it's like okay, you know what would you tell yourself 10 years ago or as a child but, but the consistent evolution that we have
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and change can happen so quickly.
And for me this last year had a lot of intensity.
Because literally a year ago my dad passed, who I was very close with so for the grieving process and everything and six months ago, I was really in the depth of it.
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And so it was, it's about like, you can feel joy again, you know it's, we, it's always we, when we have challenges, you know you finding the ways how to move through it and then again my practice helped a lot on the journey because it's not grief and, you know, grief, I feel in our world a lot of people in different areas are
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griefing it's not just, you know, losing a parent but losing, you know, a relationship that ends marriage, a job that goes away.
There's a lot of grief I think since the pandemic a lot of people experienced grieve also grieve of a world that is not the way we remember it because the world has changed so much.
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So, to know that, yeah, it's, it's okay to feel joy again and give yourself that gives yourself that permission and find these pockets finds these things that give you joy and and don't feel like oh, you know I'm going to wait until I do that until I reach a certain age or until I have that job or to give yourself permission have that joy now.
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Yeah, yeah. Okay, I love that. That's so good.
How can people find you.
They can find me on Instagram, okay, Karola Raymond, my website.
Karola Raymond. Yeah. Okay, great. Well I will put all the information on the show notes so if you guys want to look into Karola you will be able to do so.
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Thank you so much for joining us. And so, I love this conversation that was really impactful so again if you want to get in touch or get more information on Karola you can find all that information in the show notes.
And if you feel like you're on the brink of something different you want to shift in your life, you can text the word shift to 554444 and I will send you a checklist it's just a small little checklist but it's a little assessment and might give you a different perspective
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about how you're looking at your life, the stories you're telling yourself and whether or not you need to make that shift yourself so hope you enjoyed the show, and we'll talk to you soon.
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If you're tired of the cookie cutter approach to success and you crave a life that resonates with your true self, you are in the right place. Join me each week as we uncover powerful insights from those who have had the courage to lean into their purpose, live authentically, and create a life they were made for.
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This isn't just a conversation.
It's a movement.
This is a revolution of authentic leadership, but we don't just talk about change, we live it.
And you can too.
I'm so excited for you to meet my friend, Karola. She is joining us. She's an actor. She's a writer. She's a filmmaker. She's a producer. She hails from Germany. She is Italian American. She grew up in Germany and in New York.
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She has always wanted to be an actor and she found a way to really tap into her inner being and make that dream come true. So you can actually also see her on her award-winning film that she wrote, produced, and starred in, The Cuddler. And thank you for joining us.
It's so good to see you.
So good seeing you.
So we have a fun little history because back how many years now? 11 years ago when I was in my corporate job and we were shooting a commercial that we needed in order to brand the company and I casted you in a series of how, I don't know, we probably shot over four or five different spots in Vegas and LA.
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And the famous one is where I get my face licked.
You got your face licked in a casino.
Which was very controversial, right?
It was very controversial. We had to pull the spot down. It was the whole thing.
But it was really fun. And that's when I first got to really know you and I've been watching you on your journey for the past couple of years. And I'm really excited you decided to pop in and talk to us today.
Thank you for inviting me. This is wonderful to be here and reconnect and also like seeing that you journeyed from the corporate world into now your individual.
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I know.
That's exciting.
That's its own transformation.
I know. And it's brave. As we know, it's always brave to listen to the call.
Yes, listen to the call. And that's really my whole goal with this is, you know, I think our viewers are a mix of managers and leaders because it's called Leadership on Purpose.
But my focus isn't just leaders in the business world because I'm a big believer that you're a leader in your life, right?
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You lead your family. You lead your friends. You lead your spouse.
And you're the star of your own show. So what's that script look like? And there's not a lot of people that write that script.
They let the script be written for them. And then they are just, you know, a reactive person in this 3D construct that we live in.
And so I really want to encourage people to listen to the stories of everybody and say, hey, you know what, I kind of identify or I resonate with that.
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And I think that's something that I can probably, you know, implement into my day to day so that I can shift just a little bit more into something into a place that I'm feeling more fulfilled and, you know, approaching life from from that place of purpose and fulfillment so that we live the life that we were made to live.
And so and a lot of people I've been able to talk to through this series have done a lot of extraordinary things. But I think it's because of the the identification of the awareness that you have and, you know, the the idea that you're really leading into who you are as a person and what you were really made to do.
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It's like when you can really tie yourself authentically, you know, into your purpose and you tie that to your work, then that's when like the real magic happens. True. And trust in your inner voice.
Because there's so many out of voices that tell you, oh, you should be doing this or why don't you do that?
And also, I think as a society in general, the concepts that we have ideas.
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But I do believe they're shifting right now. I believe we're. I think there's a shift in the level of the consciousness as a whole right now. And that's why, you know, when you look at the trending topics, even on LinkedIn, I'm pretty active on there.
And, you know, the most engaged posts, a lot of them are around personal growth in the work in the workspace. Right. And I think there's a need for that.
So, yeah. But anyway, you had something really interesting happen to you in Bali. So I want to talk about that. Take me through that story and your transformation and how it changed the way that you think.
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Well, I think Bali was just that was just before I moved to L.A. But before Bali, I felt I was very much just I grew up in Germany for the most part, a very linear kind of thinking like you do this and then you do that. And you have to just check mark all these things.
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And then there's a linear path. And but part of me, thinking back, always knew that there's more. But I it wasn't palpable. I didn't grow up with any kind of specific belief. My parents both left church.
But now thinking back, I was always spiritual. I always knew that there's more. And and then when I went to Bali, I just had that I was able to see a cremation ceremony. And it was kind of it was so different to anything else I ever seen in my life.
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I can't even imagine because they're Hindus. So they believe in reincarnation and it's a celebration. So they invited us as tourists to be part of their celebration.
And it was a relatively young woman that died. She was in her late 40s and they the whole village put actually money together for her to have her own cremation ceremony, because usually, you know, if you're of a lower case, you can't have that own kind of
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cremation ceremony. So she was loved. They did that it was like we walked through the town and they had offerings and they were singing and dancing. And then we went down to the to the ocean. And there was some prayers and then they put the body on fire.
And wow. And then later on, like that's what you saw the body burn. We didn't see the body because it was in like a bamboo kind of coffin. So you didn't see the bodies in a coffin in a coffin burned. Yes, that bamboo kind of coffee. So it's not a coffin.
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How we know from the Western world. It was sad bamboo kind of a casing. Yes. And we left then. But what we were told is so they wait until the body is cremated and then then closest family with the priest, the white priest goes out on the ocean in a boat and they
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scatter, scatter the ashes and it's about returning back to the elements. So they believe everything is circular, that there is not that linear. It's everything is circular. We, we come and we go. But it's, yeah, we, every time it's like a journey. It's like a phase.
I call it now school. Earth is school and we come back many times and it's kind of learning lessons. It's soul evolution. So how did that change your thinking? You go do that incredible experience. You come back to L.A. and then what? What do you do with that?
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Well, that was before I moved to L.A. That was but I would say now that was the beginning of my spiritual journey. And then I started doing yoga when I moved to L.A. And I had the thing about L.A. I kind of feel that is so fascinating. I believe L.A. attracts very old and very young souls. So you meet people that you can just tell they've experienced a lot. They have so much depth. And then there's a lot of superficiality to I call those.
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The young souls that are just the glitter and the glam. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I met some amazing people that I feel also, you know, nurtured that journey. If you're a seeker and I think I've always been a seeker, I always believe that there's more more than this little concept of idea.
Oh, we come here for this one lifetime and you better get your university degree and you better have a job all your life and make sure you save for retirement and make sure you have your, you know, your your house with the white picket fence that there is more to this.
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And and I feel, especially during the pandemic, a lot of people kind of suddenly had time to reflect on their lives. And I think that's when a lot of people started thinking, is this job really what I want to do for the rest of my life?
Is it fulfilling me? Is there more? And these questions that begins the journey. And then you kind of, you know, venture either you shut it down because you get so scared and like, oh, my God, I can't. What will the other what will my neighbors?
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What will my parents think? What? How will I pay my bills? You know, a lot of fears come up. But that is where you lean in. You know, and it's kind of OK. What are my fears? Like, what am I really scared of? What I really what do I really want?
Right. Like start asking these questions. And that's that. Yeah. Yeah. I think it's an interesting time because it was the one time where, you know, people who were working at home now blended. It was like this gray area. Right.
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Like now you're talking to people inside their bedrooms. You're talking to people in their kitchens. Their cats are on the camera. I mean, they're drinking wine out of a coffee glass. Like it was, you know, it just it kind of it started to change the game in a lot of ways for people to realize that, you know, my life, I think I'm going to approach more holistically because I'm working in my personal life. And they're kind of blending. And, you know, what I've seen a lot of with my clients is they've come out of that and have said,
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I want to live my life a little bit differently. I want more of that. I want more of a fulfillment aspect of my life. I want to be able to approach it from this place where I work and live. And I think that's been a really interesting perspective of what covid did as well.
But talk to me a little bit about that transformation for you. And we were we were talking about mindset. So where does mindset play into what you do every day? I mean, the entertainment industry is probably more of a challenge to navigate.
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And you probably have more. I read somewhere you have more rejection in a day than most people have in a month or in a year or in a lifetime. For sure.
So how do you how do you navigate that and then still get up every day and be like, OK, this is what I want to do. This is my purpose. You know, where does that play into your mindset?
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I think the biggest realization was that you know, where do you hear that all the time? You can't take it personally.
And but on a bigger, bigger scale, it's like you really have to love it so much and know that that's deeply down. You feel that's what you're meant to be doing, but also find a lot of things that you do that.
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You know, where you have more the short term kind of pleasures like, you know, writing is something that, you know, where I that's where I can go in and do that kind of work.
And it's I don't have to like put it out there right away. Like it's a different because as an actor, you always have to, you know, be there, be ready. And often it's kind of like, you know, nothing, patience, patience, patience.
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And then, OK, you have to be there right there and you have to be on. And it's there's you have no control at all. So just to understand that not something's you have control over and some things you don't.
And I think that realization and to, you know, learn to just be not so much in that space of, oh, my God, they don't like me or something like, you know, it.
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How do you handle it when you said something now that made me think of this question, but how do you know it when you're you have to be on right. But maybe you've had a bad day and you're just not your headspace is not, you know, like not working for you. It's not supporting this role that you have to now go and be in, you know, be in a movie or something like what are the tools you use?
And I'm sure there's that happens to a lot of us, right? Like, yeah, it does happen. You go to a meeting and something just happened in your personal life and you're just not feeling it like what are the tools you use to get yourself into a place where you can really be present.
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It's a mass that because I want to clarify when we talk about presence, the reason that I love the idea of being present and I think it's getting a little cliched. But when you're present, you're actually not letting the thoughts of the past or the future.
Yeah, the meditative state, a meditative state. And that's exactly what acting to me is as well, because I let go of my life and my everyday thoughts. And I become that that character that I'm portraying.
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And I have a perfect example. This last film that I was shooting, the first day of shooting, my dad went into the hospital and my dad was very, he had Alzheimer's and it was very, very emotional and didn't know what was going on.
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And it was my first day of shooting. So I had to kind of put all that aside. I had to turn my phone off. I was on set and and I what I think I've been what I did, what I think I do just because I practice meditation a lot and that I kind of let go for that time.
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There was nothing that I could do. And I have and I went into that, what we call meditative state of being present and just being in the moment and because otherwise I couldn't have, you know, have a good performance through that.
No, I think that's important for people to understand when you're in that present moment because that's all we really have. That's the only thing that's real.
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Yeah, it's what you have right here right now. And where you are right here right now, it's like you have everything you need. You're okay. You know, it's like that present moment is always going to be the moment that saves you because it is you. Right. That is your moment.
And you know, there's a saying like, you know, anxiety comes when you're already anticipating you're in the future and depression comes from when you're living in the past.
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So it's so important that present moment is really all, as you just said, I love that, all we have. We really have. Yeah. And it's hard to like when you're living your life and you're navigating all the challenges of just work and kids and family and things that go wrong and finances and, you know, to get yourself to that place.
And it's like everybody's tool sets going to look different. You know, how do you, what are the tools you use to get yourself there?
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Well, I feel I've trained my mind so much through meditation. I do a lot of yoga. And I think also a lot of experiences that I've had a lot of moments of extreme uncertainty. Like I moved to LA all by myself. I didn't have anyone that I could call me like, hey, I need help.
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Like in the beginning, I knew one person. So it's you kind of, there is something I believe that happens when you start really also understanding that there you hold a certain kind of power within and you either let your mind run wild, your thoughts and all what could go wrong or what you're worried about.
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Or you kind of, it's almost like you really start living in the presence as much as you can. And no one can do it all the time. And, you know, things happen and you get kind of thrown off.
But for the most time that you really tried to, when you talk to someone to be there with them without already anticipation or thinking the next thought. And that really, I think, I mean, as far as I know, it's like a muscle.
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You know, you train yourself, you train it. And that's why you start meditation in the beginning just with a few minutes, you know, just in a mantra. Like I do a lot of Kundalini yoga where you work with mantras a lot where you just kind of start.
And the more and more you do that, you just realize, oh, you know, when I'm present, I actually, you know, can move through so many things so much better than if I would drive myself already crazy thinking all these thoughts, especially if you're not right now in that situation dealing or able.
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So often we have to wait to deal with something. There is something that came up, but we know we can't address that until maybe tomorrow. So what you want to spend the rest of the day and evening tormenting yourself.
Right.
Well, of course, like with certain things, you may have to sit down and make some decisions or some thoughts, but then you have to let it go. So then either and for people, it's different. Some people, when they go running, they can really go into a meditative state. I think the most important thing is to find what works for you because we're all so there.
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Yes, because we're all such unique snowflakes. I always love to say that.
I read that you wrote that. Yeah, I thought that was really cute. But it's true. We're all made so uniquely and differently. And we each have our purpose right in that snowflakes is a purpose and that purpose is tied to fulfillment. That's why we're here.
And, you know, being present such an interesting conversation because you can tell when you're talking to somebody if they're present or not, you know, like you'd be having dinner with someone if they're checking their phone all the time or like there's like an emptiness behind their eyes, you know, and it's the energy changes.
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Yeah. And so if there's so much benefit in really allowing yourself to be aware of that even for yourself, like I found myself having like well we did earlier right we were having conversation I'm like wait I just lost my presence right I gotta like I gotta take care of something and then I want to come back to this.
And I think having you know it is a muscle like I was never like that before it's taken me I mean hours of meditation and understanding and digging deep into, you know, my own self awareness journey to figure that out but I wouldn't trade that for anything because I like the idea
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I love the idea of when I'm having a conversation that I give myself permission to put the pause on all the story that's going on in my head, and I'm pretty careful about that story and I'm, you know, definitely aware of making sure it's a story that works for me and not a story that doesn't.
So I cultivated that story but I don't want it running when I'm talking to somebody I want to hear what they say and I want to be able to absorb that and have like a true conversation. So, so I love that you know you, you mentioned that too and that you have the same approach to that.
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Yeah, it's really important.
Yeah. But you just touched upon with the story you're telling yourself that's, you know, once you are able to be in that present moment also to realize when the stories come up what stories are you telling yourself.
Yeah, that's well and that so I, I took this whole course, this is, I didn't make this up this was a David Bayer thing but you know he talks a lot about the, the limiting beliefs that we have right which is the story that you tell yourself.
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And I hope the narrative on that. How do you decide like okay I've been telling myself I'm not good enough and I'm not going to make this, you know next move in my career because I just don't think I'm good enough. And one way that you know he's talked about that I have found so helpful and I've used this many times is you make the decision,
right, you're like no I'm now going to make a new decision that I am good enough, and your brain is like a SEO machine, so you have to like put it to work for you and not just let it run you. So you have to like find the existing evidence, I think actually
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Hicks talks about this too but you find the existing evidence of the situation similar to one to the one that you're struggling with in ways that you were good enough right so it's like wait no no I'm telling myself I'm not good enough, but in this situation.
I'm like, okay, I was good enough and then here's where I was good enough and now it's like no why would I say I'm not good enough it's not true right so you're giving yourself this matrix that's like, okay, I'm just going to make this new decision.
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And this decision is supported by my previous actions, and you just create a new belief system on that and I love that idea because it's so simple yet it's so complicated and hard for so many people, you know, to be able to like show up the way they want to show up because
they're labeled with this terrible story that doesn't serve them. And so a lot I mean I just, I just wrapped up a keynote speech I was working on that's really centered around limiting beliefs because it's exactly what a lot of people struggle with right it's
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a paradigm that runs in your system, you hold on to these kind of limiting beliefs and because you hold on to them you cannot get to where you want to get to right. It's, but it's also kind of scary because sometimes letting go of certain beliefs even if they're limiting.
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That's what you kind of build your whole, whole personality kind of concept around. Correct. So it's like you have to let go of all of it and you have to kind of maybe be in that free falling kind of state well and it's hard I think for a lot of people to to be like
well how do I know I have a limiting belief, and the best way to know that is look at your reaction. Right. You have a trigger or a deep seated crazy reaction to something.
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And there's you've you're carrying a belief system around that topic and then you just got to dig deep and figure out what that is but you know I mean my the last two years three year four years maybe I've, you know, been deep on that work and just like, you know, being like an
investigator like why am I that why is that my reaction how do I flip the narrative on that what's the new story I'm telling myself but you have to be really conscious of that it's a lot of work it's a lot of work and it's, you know, ongoing work that I would say never completely goes away but we get
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better with it and we, we kind of shift every day you just shift a little bit more. Yeah. And that's like that kind of growth like you look, and you don't see it every day. No, but then in like six months you're like, Oh my gosh look at how much I've changed, you know,
and how you through challenges that you would have thought previously oh my god I could never move through that right. But, yeah, it's.
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And that's where you have to also understand to kind of, you know, pat yourself on the back and be kind of like, Oh, this is how far, how far I have come, you know, to give yourself credit because I feel we're so good at being harsh, you know, hard on ourselves,
right and seeing all that we, you know, maybe have not achieved yet or have not gotten to yet. Yeah. But what about, you know, really acknowledging those small steps on the way. Yeah, because that's what takes you.
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Yeah, and then you can say wow I've come this far, and where do I want to go like where's, what's the clarity around that I was just talking to someone else about journaling and we were saying how journaling is so important because it really does provide an outlet for you to
gain that clarity. Like I mean, you talk to people who are like I don't really know what I want to do in my life or I don't know where I want to be a year from now.
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It actually saddens me because I'm like whoa wait you've got like have that clarity for you to know, you know what it is you were born here for you were put here for a specific reason and what truly fulfills you and that's exactly what the role is like, what's your purpose and how does it
fulfill you and that's the life you want to live. That's peace that's like inner joy that's inner peace that's that's when all the things come to you.
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So I believe that there's even so things maybe can be hard at times but if you lean into the direction that is really truly what you feel as you're calling, suddenly there will be interesting alignments happening.
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It's not an easy journey per se but you will just you notice a synchronicity. Yes. I'm like oh how interesting that that just came up or that I met this person. Yeah.
Or I read this message. Yep. Well it's been interesting when I decided I wanted to go open up my own you know consulting studio and do all of this. I thought about it for a long time and I was like I don't know maybe I should just stay in the W2 world and.
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And so it came so I was driving and just dropped my son off at school and I was stopped at a late and it came like a thought in my head again it's like no you really I felt called and I was like okay I'm going to listen to this call and then I opened my
eyes and I'm like I'm going to listen to this because I'm feeling so called and around me was like the number one everywhere like the cars a tie it was like ones everywhere and I was like I've never seen anything like that.
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And I was like well that's weird. I guess I guess maybe I'm on the right path. And then there was a commercial for one part of the business I was you know struggling with trying to figure out and ended up getting connected with these people and it all just I just leaned into it and it kind of happened.
And then there was like repeating I see 444 everywhere like you know what I mean it's like you're open for that that's the one thing you have to open up yeah to actually receive and again I'm going back to we are so trained in our left brain kind of thinking that it needs to make sense it needs to have facts and
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to logicalize it needs to it needs to land in a way that's like chronological and linear and all the things that you can explain that it makes sense. But once so much of life is not like no and once that was for me a big epiphany the more I really follow like my intuition.
Yeah, and trusting my intuition and the knowing and checking in with me. And that's when I realized like also that's when you start having a different kind of confidence, because it's not from just these facts or you don't have to rely on what your physical world is just showing you at this moment in time.
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You know, my knowing is so strong that I know this is what I meant for and so whatever this 3D world is, is showing up as at this red hot moment, it doesn't have it's not final. It's like it's going to change and I'm going to change it.
And I think that's where so many people get stuck because they're like, No, I, you know, this is my life and there's nothing I can do about it and I'm, you know, I don't like my job I don't have enough money I don't.
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But it's a story but you're telling all the things why something cannot right. And that's your life because you put yourself there you're a co creator of your own experience right so I don't know I love these conversations because they're so first of all validating that you know you can live in this.
You can live a life that can be whatever it is you want it to be, and that you can, you know, you have, you have your own part in that and like I love when other people have the same experience and I just want to share that message because I think I want people to realize you don't have to be stuck like you're not stuck this is not the end you change your story at any time.
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So there's I think that expression about that there's this. It was like, you can only that there's that glass ceiling, kind of, and, and it also is connect with our nervous system and everything where you know you feel triggered and then it's just seems so much better to stay where you are even so you're unhappy.
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Then as you're comfortable there yeah because at least you know what that's funny about the nervous system. So your sympathetic nervous system is there to keep you alive so back in like the stone ages right when like you're going to get chased by a bear, you needed your sympathetic
nervous system to rely on because what happens is when you get that fight or flight feeling your system actually shuts down and it sends all its energy to like your heart and your brain.
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So you can actually pull through a physical activity you need to to stay alive. Right. Not because you got a bad email, not because you got a bill in the mail but that's how we're living these days as we're getting that fight or flight and we're getting this like the scare, the scarcity
in us because we are, you know, we don't know how to handle these things so when you when that's like really coming from like a state of fear. But when you're in, you're operating off of your parasympathetic nervous system which is when you're, you know, in homeostasis and you're calm and it's your
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place of genius and power and creativity, you know, you make this you make better decisions you're coming at your, you're approaching your life the way you're supposed to approach your life, but we don't live in that place. We live in this like scary reactive place and we're
overwhelmed so often. I mean we're living in a world where we are bombarded all the time with so much information and that's why a strong nervous system is so important like to find a practice that helps to balance the nervous system so that you understand when things come
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towards you that it doesn't, it's, you have techniques how to calm yourself down and soothe yourself so that you don't, because otherwise you just burn yourself out and so many of us are burned out because that constant, we're in this fight flight mode so much.
Yeah and I think that's where breath work really does come into play and it sounds so woo I know some of this conversation so woo. Not to me. I mean it's kind of like the intangibles of the human experience are very legitimate right? Yeah. And I actually this morning I did before we started shooting today there was a breath work class and so I joined it and it was fascinating. It was an hour long. I was like oh my gosh can I do this for an hour? It was so good though like it got me to such like a still place that when it was done I was like, wow I felt so calm and so proud.
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I was like, calm and so present and I'm like how do I take this with me the rest of the day like I should start my day like this every day. I know. And there was some stuff that happened beforehand that I was already feeling like agitated, nervous, like you know and it just literally like you know kind of calmed it all down so I think it's important to have those tools that we can use for ourselves that allow us to get to that place that's so important.
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And it's nice to see I feel there is more and more openness towards these kind of practices. It's becoming a little bit more acceptable, more mainstream, more people are you know understanding the benefits really.
And you just I always say you have to just experience it like because you can't really explain it to someone you need to have the experience.
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Well people are thirsty for transformation, they're thirsty for change, they want you know they want to be fulfilled. I mean that's because we are more than just this physical body and you know we like that little soul in there it's going to if you don't listen to the calling it's going to put you in a place where you have no choice to listen.
So I'm kind of like hey people don't get into that place, don't get so far down that it comes looking for you. Like get yourself to a place where you're like okay I'm going to listen to myself and let it guide me and let that inner knowing guide me and find my soul purpose before my soul's like I'm going to put you in a lifetime out for a little bit and you're going to listen to me.
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It's so true.
That's what happens.
Yeah.
Well, I really appreciate you stopping by today. Thank you. I know you're busy right now and this was perfect and it's just great to see you. I haven't seen you in so long. So two things I'm going to ask you last few things.
Okay.
Number one, what is, what would you tell yourself six months ago, and I asked this question and every show because I believe that we're always evolving and that some people think that it's like okay, you know what would you tell yourself 10 years ago or as a child but, but the consistent evolution that we have
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and change can happen so quickly.
And for me this last year had a lot of intensity.
Because literally a year ago my dad passed, who I was very close with so for the grieving process and everything and six months ago, I was really in the depth of it.
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And so it was, it's about like, you can feel joy again, you know it's, we, it's always we, when we have challenges, you know you finding the ways how to move through it and then again my practice helped a lot on the journey because it's not grief and, you know, grief, I feel in our world a lot of people in different areas are
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griefing it's not just, you know, losing a parent but losing, you know, a relationship that ends marriage, a job that goes away.
There's a lot of grief I think since the pandemic a lot of people experienced grieve also grieve of a world that is not the way we remember it because the world has changed so much.
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So, to know that, yeah, it's, it's okay to feel joy again and give yourself that gives yourself that permission and find these pockets finds these things that give you joy and and don't feel like oh, you know I'm going to wait until I do that until I reach a certain age or until I have that job or to give yourself permission have that joy now.
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Yeah, yeah. Okay, I love that. That's so good.
How can people find you.
They can find me on Instagram, okay, Karola Raymond, my website.
Karola Raymond. Yeah. Okay, great. Well I will put all the information on the show notes so if you guys want to look into Karola you will be able to do so.
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Thank you so much for joining us. And so, I love this conversation that was really impactful so again if you want to get in touch or get more information on Karola you can find all that information in the show notes.
And if you feel like you're on the brink of something different you want to shift in your life, you can text the word shift to 554444 and I will send you a checklist it's just a small little checklist but it's a little assessment and might give you a different perspective
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about how you're looking at your life, the stories you're telling yourself and whether or not you need to make that shift yourself so hope you enjoyed the show, and we'll talk to you soon.
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