June 3, 2025 • 12 mins
While Master Silk handles business overseas, China Doll steps up to host this week’s episode with a special guest: Rochelle — a longtime friend, former dancer and escort, and now a powerhouse entrepreneur. These two women owe their glow-up to Silk's guidance, and now they're giving the game back. From street smarts to boardroom brilliance, this episode dives into:
* Women helping women in business
* Leaving the game without leaving your respect
* Dating older men vs. younger boys
* Loyalty to the man who changed their lives
* How to tell real support from fake love
This week, we pull coats with unapologetic truth, female strength, and the legacy of a man who invested in more than just the hustle.
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China Doll (00:00):
Back by popular demand, it's me, China Doll.
And this time, I brought mygirl Rochelle with me.
Master Silk is handlinghigh-stakes business across the
pond.
But don't trip.
The legacy he built is stillalive and loud.
Hit that follow button.
Drop a five-star rating.
And if you're one of the peopleSilk changed forever, send your
(00:25):
love or your questions.
to let me pull your coat atgmail.com.
We see you.
Welcome back.
As you know, I'm holdingit down while Silk is out the
country.
And with me today is a womanI've known for over 20 years,
Rochelle, also known as Lucky.
Now don't let the beauty foolyou, she's seen the blade,
walked the fire, and now she'sout here buying property and
(00:48):
building teams.
Rochelle/Lucky (00:49):
Thank you, sis.
Listen, I was a dancer.
I was...
An escort.
I was a blade runner.
I thought I had it all figuredout.
I was making cash money everyday.
But, to be honest, I hadnothing to show for it.
A few trinkets, maybe someclothes and shoes.
Don't get me wrong.
I looked like I had it allworked out.
(01:11):
That is, until we chose Silk.
And he sat me down and showedme what real game, guidance, and
leadership looked like.
Now, I own my own, now I own aboutique and a logistics
company.
All legit, and it's all mine.
That's why I had to bring youon today.
(01:32):
We get a lot of questions fromwomen in the game, from women
out the game, and from womentrying to find their way once
they left the game.
So, we gon' pull some coatstoday, and do it like Silk
taught us.
We're gonna do it raw, real,and with love.
Let's get it.
First up, we've got Hannah fromNew York.
(01:53):
She says, I'm going to ask thequestion that everybody wants to
know.
Does Silk still have girlschoose him?
And does he still send girls?
Well, right off the get-go,Lucky, you want to take this
Thanks for throwing me under the bus.
Well, Hannah, let me put itlike this.
(02:14):
I never discuss anotherperson's business.
I'd rather you contact himdirectly for that answer.
Just send him an email and put,for Silk's eyes only, in the
subject line.
This way, he'll know it's notmeant for the podcast, just him.
China Doll (02:31):
I was stumped on that one.
I was like, should I orshouldn't I?
Okay, moving on.
Next, we got Alicia from Korea.
She says...
I left the escort life twoyears ago, but feel like people
still define me by it.
Any advice on how to rebuild myimage?
Rochelle/Lucky (02:49):
First, you have to own your truth.
People are gonna whisperwhether you broke or ballin'.
What matters is how you carryit.
When I opened my first shop,folks remembered the dancer, not
the boss.
I didn't argue, I remember Ihad a customer say, Weren't you
(03:09):
that girl from Club Eclipse?
I smiled and said, yes.
And now I own this store.
Eventually they stopped asking.
Time and receipts will do thetalking.
China Doll (03:22):
Period.
I tell them all the time, youcan't be ashamed of your past if
it paid your future.
My first beauty studio?
I funded it with money I savedwhile still working at the club.
Silk made sure we weren't justspending on shoes and bags.
He used to say, if you gon' bein the game, at least treat it
(03:43):
like a business.
Rochelle/Lucky (03:46):
Now we got DeAndre from Memphis.
He says, I'm dating a woman whoused to dance.
I respect her grind, but I'mnervous introducing her to my
mom.
What should I do?
China Doll (03:58):
Are you a grown-ass man or a mama's boy?
Because you can't say yourespect her if you're ashamed to
show her off.
I dated a guy who made me feellike I was good enough to sleep
with and spend my money, but notgood enough to bring to his
church.
I bounced.
Respect starts with exposure.
If you're ashamed of who shewas, then you don't deserve who
(04:21):
she's become.
As Silk always says, you gotyour hat, get your coat, and
agitate the gravel.
Because you don't deserveher...
or her love.
She ain't a damn secret.
Like me and Lucky, she's thefucking success story.
Rochelle/Lucky (04:38):
This one from Giovanna in Serbia.
She writes, I want to start abeauty business, but I have no
formal education.
Is that even possible?
Education is great.
Built a whole enterprise offhustle.
Good credit and mentorship.
When I started my courierbusiness, I didn't know a damn
(04:58):
thing about logistics.
Silk connected me with aretired trucker who taught me
everything over hot wings andbeer.
Start small.
Learn daily.
And get yourself a mentor orbusiness coach.
Knowledge ain't just in books.
It's in experience.
China Doll (05:17):
Giovanna.
I opened my last studio beforeI ever went to esthetician
school.
I learned on YouTube, practicedon mannequins, then reinvested
my first $1,000 profit into realtraining.
If you wait to feel ready,you'll never start.
Next up, Kevin from New Jersey.
Why do y'all women say loyaltymatters more than love?
(05:38):
Kevin, love is a feeling.
Loyalty is an action.
People can love you and stillbetray you.
Loyalty says I got your back,even when love
Rochelle/Lucky (05:51):
I had a man say he loved me while putting me in
harm's way every night for hisbenefit.
He'd smile in my face, but he'dleave me hanging when it
mattered most.
Meanwhile, I had another man, ahomeboy from back in my early
days, who loaned me $5,000 withno questions asked when my mom
(06:13):
got sick.
Like...
Never said he loved me.
Never tried to sleep with me.
Just showed up and did whatneeded to be done.
That's loyalty.
it's rare That's who I keep close.
China Doll (06:27):
Now we got Brielle from Atlanta.
How did y'all go from strippingto stock portfolios?
It sounds like a broken record,but it was all silk.
He made us save.
Then he would match our money,dollar for dollar.
He sat us down and taught ushow to read contracts, invest
and rate, flip property.
(06:48):
I remember him telling me, babygirl, your looks can open the
door, but your paperwork keepsyou in the building.
I didn't even know what equitywas.
Now I'm teaching my nieces andany woman that wants to move up
(07:34):
That’s all facts. Silk had me sitting in meetings with bankers and lawyers when I was still doing makeup backstage. He taught me how to negotiate my first lease. I still got the folder labeled “Silk School” — with all the business plans and budgets we wrote. It wasn’t just about getting out the game — it was about getting ahead of it.Next is Maritza from San Diego. “Is it possible to forgive a man who cheated on you while you were pregnant?
Maritza, you can forgive.
You don't have to stay.
Girl, that question alone iseverything.
I had a similar situation.
He told me he cheated becausehe was stressed about becoming a
dad.
Like, my swollen feet andsleepless nights didn't count.
I forgave him for me not tokeep him.
(07:55):
That freedom?
Priceless.
And now, my son sees his mamathriving, respected, and not
settling.
I left mine and rebuilt withpeace.
Never confuse healing withholding on.
I had to look in the mirror andask, do I want to raise a child
watching me accept this?
We've got a few more left.
(08:17):
If you are picking up whatwe're putting down, don't forget
to like, comment, andsubscribe.
Be sure to share this withanyone you feel may need it.
Okay, next up we have Luca fromItaly.
He asks, is it true that thatthe game still follows you, no
matter how far you run.
First off, Luka, why run fromit?
(08:39):
The world is the game.
You can't get through lifewithout having some game about
you.
Accept the game is what keepsthe world turning.
Either you learn to navigateand use the game or spend the
rest of your life being a Mark
Rochelle/Lucky (08:54):
Exactly, Silk always said, if you tell your
own story, nobody can use itagainst you.
China Doll (09:01):
Sorry, y'all, but Lucky's mic is acting up.
Hopefully, we'll get her back.
This one's from Joy in Chicago.
How do I stop letting men useme financially?
Well, Joy, by closing your legsand your wallet.
Then open your eyes.
If you feel like a sponsor andnot a partner, you already know
(09:23):
what time it is.
Ask yourself this.
Would he give a shit if you hadnothing?
Or is his love onlytransactional?
Here's one from Miguel in ElPaso.
Why do successful womenintimidate men?
Insecure men fear what theycan't control.
Real men, we celebrate it.
(09:43):
Silk never flinched when I saidI wanted to own five
businesses, he said.
Why not make it six?
That man build bosses, notpuppets.
All of his girls left with aportfolio, retirement fund and
property.
Just because you can pissstanding up, don't make you a
man.
It makes you male.
If you can't see what a womanis worth to you as a partner,
(10:05):
you may as well stay single.
We all don't want what youhave.
Some of us already have it andlooking for someone to share it
with so that we both can riseup.
This one isn't a question, butI'm the man included because it
made me smile.
Here's a really big shout outto Brian A.
from Miami, Florida, who sentus a selfie of him rocking the
(10:26):
hoodie he received from us.
Brian says, thanks to Silk'sadvice, I finally started my
landscaping business.
Using Silk's method, I alreadyhave four bona fide contracts.
Brian, we see you, but staygrinding and rock that hoodie
with pride.
Here's your Coat Pull of theWeek.
If you want to know who reallybelieves in you, watch who claps
(10:49):
when you win and who disappearswhen you fail.
Your past can explain you, butit should never define you.
Every chapter ain't meant to bere-read.
Before we close out, we got toshow love to a few folks who've
been riding with us heavy.
Big salute to Keisha B.
from Detroit.
She said our last episode...
(11:10):
gave her the push she needed towalk out that toxic salon job
and finally open her own lashsuite.
Sis, you did that.
And shout out to Tony inLondon.
He's been sharing the podcastevery week on his IG stories and
even sent in a question fornext time.
We see you.
Oh, and major love to Miss Jfrom Houston, who donated three
(11:32):
podcast hoodies to women at ahalfway house.
That's real community work.
Sorry that we lost Lucky, butshe promised to stop back by
when she's in town again.
This episode is proof thatSilk's legacy lives on.
Me, Rochelle, and several otherformer track stars are living
proof that you can elevate yourlife by picking up what we're
(11:53):
putting down.
We were part of Silk's plan.
He didn't save us.
He showed us how to saveourselves.
Now, we pass it on to you.
What do you want out of life?
Do you want to start somethingreal?
Then you need to hit us up.
If you have any comments,questions, or just want to share
something with us, you canreach us
(12:14):
at letmepullyourcoat@gmail.comfeel free to subscribe, share,
and if Silk ever helped youlevel up, leave a message or
become a subscriber.
You may receive some nicemerch.
Hopefully, in the next episode,Silk will be back with stories
from overseas.
Until then, I'll be spittingthis wisdom.
(12:35):
So keep grinding smart, keeploving harder, and never forget
who poured into your glass.
If you ever need us, we arealways here to pull your coat
and straighten your crown.
Until next time, much loveand much respect
Back by popular demand, it's me, China Doll.
And this time, I brought mygirl Rochelle with me.
Master Silk is handlinghigh-stakes business across the
pond.
But don't trip.
The legacy he built is stillalive and loud.
Hit that follow button.
Drop a five-star rating.
And if you're one of the peopleSilk changed forever, send your
(00:25):
love or your questions.
to let me pull your coat atgmail.com.
We see you.
Welcome back.
As you know, I'm holdingit down while Silk is out the
country.
And with me today is a womanI've known for over 20 years,
Rochelle, also known as Lucky.
Now don't let the beauty foolyou, she's seen the blade,
walked the fire, and now she'sout here buying property and
(00:48):
building teams.
Rochelle/Lucky (00:49):
Thank you, sis.
Listen, I was a dancer.
I was...
An escort.
I was a blade runner.
I thought I had it all figuredout.
I was making cash money everyday.
But, to be honest, I hadnothing to show for it.
A few trinkets, maybe someclothes and shoes.
Don't get me wrong.
I looked like I had it allworked out.
(01:11):
That is, until we chose Silk.
And he sat me down and showedme what real game, guidance, and
leadership looked like.
Now, I own my own, now I own aboutique and a logistics
company.
All legit, and it's all mine.
That's why I had to bring youon today.
(01:32):
We get a lot of questions fromwomen in the game, from women
out the game, and from womentrying to find their way once
they left the game.
So, we gon' pull some coatstoday, and do it like Silk
taught us.
We're gonna do it raw, real,and with love.
Let's get it.
First up, we've got Hannah fromNew York.
(01:53):
She says, I'm going to ask thequestion that everybody wants to
know.
Does Silk still have girlschoose him?
And does he still send girls?
Well, right off the get-go,Lucky, you want to take this
Thanks for throwing me under the bus.
Well, Hannah, let me put itlike this.
(02:14):
I never discuss anotherperson's business.
I'd rather you contact himdirectly for that answer.
Just send him an email and put,for Silk's eyes only, in the
subject line.
This way, he'll know it's notmeant for the podcast, just him.
China Doll (02:31):
I was stumped on that one.
I was like, should I orshouldn't I?
Okay, moving on.
Next, we got Alicia from Korea.
She says...
I left the escort life twoyears ago, but feel like people
still define me by it.
Any advice on how to rebuild myimage?
Rochelle/Lucky (02:49):
First, you have to own your truth.
People are gonna whisperwhether you broke or ballin'.
What matters is how you carryit.
When I opened my first shop,folks remembered the dancer, not
the boss.
I didn't argue, I remember Ihad a customer say, Weren't you
(03:09):
that girl from Club Eclipse?
I smiled and said, yes.
And now I own this store.
Eventually they stopped asking.
Time and receipts will do thetalking.
China Doll (03:22):
Period.
I tell them all the time, youcan't be ashamed of your past if
it paid your future.
My first beauty studio?
I funded it with money I savedwhile still working at the club.
Silk made sure we weren't justspending on shoes and bags.
He used to say, if you gon' bein the game, at least treat it
(03:43):
like a business.
Rochelle/Lucky (03:46):
Now we got DeAndre from Memphis.
He says, I'm dating a woman whoused to dance.
I respect her grind, but I'mnervous introducing her to my
mom.
What should I do?
China Doll (03:58):
Are you a grown-ass man or a mama's boy?
Because you can't say yourespect her if you're ashamed to
show her off.
I dated a guy who made me feellike I was good enough to sleep
with and spend my money, but notgood enough to bring to his
church.
I bounced.
Respect starts with exposure.
If you're ashamed of who shewas, then you don't deserve who
(04:21):
she's become.
As Silk always says, you gotyour hat, get your coat, and
agitate the gravel.
Because you don't deserveher...
or her love.
She ain't a damn secret.
Like me and Lucky, she's thefucking success story.
Rochelle/Lucky (04:38):
This one from Giovanna in Serbia.
She writes, I want to start abeauty business, but I have no
formal education.
Is that even possible?
Education is great.
Built a whole enterprise offhustle.
Good credit and mentorship.
When I started my courierbusiness, I didn't know a damn
(04:58):
thing about logistics.
Silk connected me with aretired trucker who taught me
everything over hot wings andbeer.
Start small.
Learn daily.
And get yourself a mentor orbusiness coach.
Knowledge ain't just in books.
It's in experience.
China Doll (05:17):
Giovanna.
I opened my last studio beforeI ever went to esthetician
school.
I learned on YouTube, practicedon mannequins, then reinvested
my first $1,000 profit into realtraining.
If you wait to feel ready,you'll never start.
Next up, Kevin from New Jersey.
Why do y'all women say loyaltymatters more than love?
(05:38):
Kevin, love is a feeling.
Loyalty is an action.
People can love you and stillbetray you.
Loyalty says I got your back,even when love
Rochelle/Lucky (05:51):
I had a man say he loved me while putting me in
harm's way every night for hisbenefit.
He'd smile in my face, but he'dleave me hanging when it
mattered most.
Meanwhile, I had another man, ahomeboy from back in my early
days, who loaned me $5,000 withno questions asked when my mom
(06:13):
got sick.
Like...
Never said he loved me.
Never tried to sleep with me.
Just showed up and did whatneeded to be done.
That's loyalty.
it's rare That's who I keep close.
China Doll (06:27):
Now we got Brielle from Atlanta.
How did y'all go from strippingto stock portfolios?
It sounds like a broken record,but it was all silk.
He made us save.
Then he would match our money,dollar for dollar.
He sat us down and taught ushow to read contracts, invest
and rate, flip property.
(06:48):
I remember him telling me, babygirl, your looks can open the
door, but your paperwork keepsyou in the building.
I didn't even know what equitywas.
Now I'm teaching my nieces andany woman that wants to move up
(07:34):
That’s all facts. Silk had me sitting in meetings with bankers and lawyers when I was still doing makeup backstage. He taught me how to negotiate my first lease. I still got the folder labeled “Silk School” — with all the business plans and budgets we wrote. It wasn’t just about getting out the game — it was about getting ahead of it.Next is Maritza from San Diego. “Is it possible to forgive a man who cheated on you while you were pregnant?
Maritza, you can forgive.
You don't have to stay.
Girl, that question alone iseverything.
I had a similar situation.
He told me he cheated becausehe was stressed about becoming a
dad.
Like, my swollen feet andsleepless nights didn't count.
I forgave him for me not tokeep him.
(07:55):
That freedom?
Priceless.
And now, my son sees his mamathriving, respected, and not
settling.
I left mine and rebuilt withpeace.
Never confuse healing withholding on.
I had to look in the mirror andask, do I want to raise a child
watching me accept this?
We've got a few more left.
(08:17):
If you are picking up whatwe're putting down, don't forget
to like, comment, andsubscribe.
Be sure to share this withanyone you feel may need it.
Okay, next up we have Luca fromItaly.
He asks, is it true that thatthe game still follows you, no
matter how far you run.
First off, Luka, why run fromit?
(08:39):
The world is the game.
You can't get through lifewithout having some game about
you.
Accept the game is what keepsthe world turning.
Either you learn to navigateand use the game or spend the
rest of your life being a Mark
Rochelle/Lucky (08:54):
Exactly, Silk always said, if you tell your
own story, nobody can use itagainst you.
China Doll (09:01):
Sorry, y'all, but Lucky's mic is acting up.
Hopefully, we'll get her back.
This one's from Joy in Chicago.
How do I stop letting men useme financially?
Well, Joy, by closing your legsand your wallet.
Then open your eyes.
If you feel like a sponsor andnot a partner, you already know
(09:23):
what time it is.
Ask yourself this.
Would he give a shit if you hadnothing?
Or is his love onlytransactional?
Here's one from Miguel in ElPaso.
Why do successful womenintimidate men?
Insecure men fear what theycan't control.
Real men, we celebrate it.
(09:43):
Silk never flinched when I saidI wanted to own five
businesses, he said.
Why not make it six?
That man build bosses, notpuppets.
All of his girls left with aportfolio, retirement fund and
property.
Just because you can pissstanding up, don't make you a
man.
It makes you male.
If you can't see what a womanis worth to you as a partner,
(10:05):
you may as well stay single.
We all don't want what youhave.
Some of us already have it andlooking for someone to share it
with so that we both can riseup.
This one isn't a question, butI'm the man included because it
made me smile.
Here's a really big shout outto Brian A.
from Miami, Florida, who sentus a selfie of him rocking the
(10:26):
hoodie he received from us.
Brian says, thanks to Silk'sadvice, I finally started my
landscaping business.
Using Silk's method, I alreadyhave four bona fide contracts.
Brian, we see you, but staygrinding and rock that hoodie
with pride.
Here's your Coat Pull of theWeek.
If you want to know who reallybelieves in you, watch who claps
(10:49):
when you win and who disappearswhen you fail.
Your past can explain you, butit should never define you.
Every chapter ain't meant to bere-read.
Before we close out, we got toshow love to a few folks who've
been riding with us heavy.
Big salute to Keisha B.
from Detroit.
She said our last episode...
(11:10):
gave her the push she needed towalk out that toxic salon job
and finally open her own lashsuite.
Sis, you did that.
And shout out to Tony inLondon.
He's been sharing the podcastevery week on his IG stories and
even sent in a question fornext time.
We see you.
Oh, and major love to Miss Jfrom Houston, who donated three
(11:32):
podcast hoodies to women at ahalfway house.
That's real community work.
Sorry that we lost Lucky, butshe promised to stop back by
when she's in town again.
This episode is proof thatSilk's legacy lives on.
Me, Rochelle, and several otherformer track stars are living
proof that you can elevate yourlife by picking up what we're
(11:53):
putting down.
We were part of Silk's plan.
He didn't save us.
He showed us how to saveourselves.
Now, we pass it on to you.
What do you want out of life?
Do you want to start somethingreal?
Then you need to hit us up.
If you have any comments,questions, or just want to share
something with us, you canreach us
(12:14):
at letmepullyourcoat@gmail.comfeel free to subscribe, share,
and if Silk ever helped youlevel up, leave a message or
become a subscriber.
You may receive some nicemerch.
Hopefully, in the next episode,Silk will be back with stories
from overseas.
Until then, I'll be spittingthis wisdom.
(12:35):
So keep grinding smart, keeploving harder, and never forget
who poured into your glass.
If you ever need us, we arealways here to pull your coat
and straighten your crown.
Until next time, much loveand much respect
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