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Hello.
Hi.
So welcome back to the podcast.
This is, I don't know whatepisode this is, but it's probably
90 something.
But this is let.
This is.
I don't know what it's called.
Taylor Talk or Let's TalkTaylor episode two.
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So this is just a.
We didn't actually do thefirst one, did we?
I saw, I haven't listened toit, but I saw a recording that was
called let's Talk Taylorepisode one.
Yeah, but you didn't thinkpost it.
I didn't post it.
I don't know if it's any good.
So this might be episode oneor two.
I don't know.
There's no quality control inthis podcast so whatever we say just
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gets the released.
So.
But the whole point of this,let's call it a series is that we
just sit around and talk aboutTaylor Swift.
Mm.
So what do you.
What's going on with Taylorright now?
Well, she's in Dublin.
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She's in Dublin.
Oh yeah.
So let's say what day it is.
It's June 26th.
28th.
June 28th.
It's Friday, June 28th, 2024.
You've been following hertours very closely.
Mm.
What do you have to say about that?
I think that it's definitelyfun, you know?
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Uh huh.
I don't, I think, I can'timagine what people who aren't as
50s do in their free timebecause you know, honestly, it's
like the funnest thing you.
Can be Taylor Swift is life.
Yeah.
Like people who, who aren'tswifties aren't living life to its
full ability.
Honestly, I feel bad for them too.
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My day to day basis revolvesaround Taylor.
My activities.
Yeah, that's right.
So every day let's think aboutthe Taylor related stuff you do during
the day.
The first thing is if when wego out on run errands.
If you come with me to run.
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Errands within five seconds ofgetting to the car Taylor's playing.
So that's number one.
Yes, number one.
And then anytime she has ashow, it's my top priority to get
my mastermind turned in.
Shout out to Swift Alert guys.
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Wait, so what is a mastermind?
So basically Swift Alert is anapp and it basically just like, it
just like spreads the newsabout Taylor.
If anything happens.
And every night she has ashow, it does a mastermind where
you guess what outfits she'llwear for each era and you guys like
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the surprise songs and stuffand it'll ask a question and then
you get points for that.
And whoever has the mostamount of points wins a prize.
Like a Taylor related prize.
I think tonight was a massassigned Midnight cd.
Alright, so hang on a second.
So the Mastermind is an app?
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No, it's the game.
It's one of the games.
What's the app?
Oh, so Swift Alert is the app.
So master.
So the app must have been post Midnights.
The app was released postmidnights, right?
Or maybe it wasn't.
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They just added the Mastermindgame because isn't Mastermind on
Midnight?
Mastermind's on Midnight, butthe error store only started after
Midnight was released.
So, you know.
So this game called SwiftAlert, the app called Swift Alert
wasn't released until theArrows tour.
I don't know.
But Mastermind couldn't havebeen released until the air store
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because the Arrows tour begunin May of 2023.
I think it's May, one of thespring months.
May and Midnight was releasedOctober 2022.
So it was definitely after.
I don't know if Swift Alertstarted before or after that.
Although it really revolvesaround the Arrows Tour.
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So you know.
Oh my God.
Well, bless you.
But it would actually be.
It probably would be every app.
Like wouldn't.
Next tour would just be.
They would just come up with abunch of, you know, games or something
based upon whatever our nexttour is.
Right.
You.
You would think that theywould just keep it going.
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Swift.
Is it Swift Alert?
Do you we.
I think we had thisconversation but is it affiliated
with her at all or is it.
Do you think she developed it?
I don't know, but I think it's Swifty.
Swifty Run.
You know, I don't know.
Does it cost money to downloadthe app?
Well, it's free to downloadand Mastermind is free.
But you also have like my favorite.
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One of my favorite features ofthis is that you can go and you could
see all of her surprise songsthat she's played and you can go
through like her albums andsee which surprise song she's played
and when she played them,which I really love.
That's like my favorite feature.
And you can also see heroutfits for each show and I love
that one.
But it's like $2.
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I think a one time purchase,it's worth it.
So you say it's worth it.
You had to pay $2 to getaccess to the game or the feature
inside the app.
It's worth it for Mastermind.
I'm pretty sure that I will.
I would not doubt that Taylorprobably takes some portion of the
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revenue for that.
Don't you think?
I wonder how you could find out.
I want to know how they getall their Mastermind prizes.
Because they're all, like,signed CDs.
Oh.
So it's gotta be affiliated.
Mm.
It's gotta be.
God, that's brilliant.
It's fabulous.
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Yeah.
And they also have quizzes.
And my favorite thing aboutthe quizzes is that there are, like,
so many.
Oh, and you get premium.
I think it's coffee.
I don't know.
You get, like, extra quizzes.
But the quizzes are myfavorite because they're not, like,
random buzzfeed quizzes thatare, like, really easy.
They're like actual, like,quizzes made by Swifties that are,
like, a good level ofhardness, you know?
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And does that cost money, too?
No, some of them.
Well, if you get premium, itgives you extra quizzes.
How much is premium cost?
$2.
One time.
Yeah.
Wait.
Oh.
So give you all the things,but I think it.
So it's free to download, butthen when you.
When you upgrade to premium,you get the.
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You get.
You get the outfit andsurprise song tracker and a few extra
quizzes.
Does he.
Are there pictures in the app?
Do you have any, like, part ofthe app that has pictures?
Oh, well, one of the mainparts of the app is that you can,
like, track.
I think it is affiliated with,like, Swifty Brands, too.
She probably gets a portion ofthe revenue.
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I wouldn't be surprised if she.
And you can also track, like,everything that Taylor posts.
It'll have, like.
There's, like.
You can see, like, theMastermind and Bracket battles is,
like, which is another game.
And it's similar toMastermind, where you have to get,
like, the most amount ofpoints, but it's, like a different
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thing, like, where, like, youpick one.
I don't know.
Wait, explain Mastermind again.
I just.
Okay, so every night thatthere's an eras tour, you pick which
outfits you think she'll wear.
Like, for example, tangerineleather body suit is one of them.
And then if she actually wearsthat, then you get, like, six points
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or whatever.
I don't know.
And then do you just do thatfor all of the eras outfits?
And how many ERAS outfits are there?
Well, how many eras are there?
Or eras outfits?
There's a lot.
What do you mean?
Do you want me to count?
Yeah, count.
Okay.
List them out, lover.
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With, like.
With different colors?
Yeah, all the different colors.
Wait a minute.
Yeah, well, as many as you can list.
I'm just curious to see, like,what kind of variety is available.
So there's.
There's a lot.
There's the Lover bodysuit andthe lover and the man jacket, which
are both part of Lover.
And there's also the guitar,but the guitar kind of, like, matches,
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which with, like, whatever.
The man.
Oh, the man jacket.
I remember it was like a blazer.
Yeah, I remember that.
So there's pink and blue,which is, like the OG Blue and gold.
These are all differentbodysuit colors.
And then there's like, a matchone with the blazer.
So she matches them.
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The blazer matches each bodysuit.
So there's a pink and blue.
So hang on.
The blazers are.
When they say match, are theyliterally the same color?
Okay, so the pink and bluebodysuit is with the silver blazer.
And she only wears, like, thematchy blazers, though, with them.
The blue and gold is with ablack blazer.
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There's the flamingo pink one.
Oh, my God.
That's a little.
Okay, never mind.
Okay.
And then there's the flamingopink, which is also.
Which has the same color blazer.
There's the purple loverbodies, which is basically the same
as the pink.
It's just purple.
It's kind of bluish, and ithas tassels, and that has.
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Okay.
And that has a purple blazer.
And then there's the newestone, which is tangerine, and it has
a tangerine blazer.
And now to the guitars.
There are three different guitars.
Well, there are two.
So hang on.
Speculate that there's eitherthree or four.
What song does she play guitar on?
From Lover.
Lover.
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Oh, right.
Because it's more of a Loveritself is more of a country song.
Are they acoustic guitars?
Okay.
Yeah.
And then there's the pink andblue guitars, which it just kind
of, like, makes sense what youwear with each one.
You know, like pink with pinkand gold.
But I don't know if she ever,like, does, like, a specific one
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with pink and blue.
But people also speculate thatthere's a lavender one.
And I saw a theory thatthere's also a green one because
the lover four colors thatmatch the Lover journal were pink,
blue, lavender, and, like, alight, like, seafoam greenish.
And she also posted a pictureof her using a seafoam green guitar.
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I don't know if that was,like, edited, though.
And then.
Okay, now onto Fearless.
So if you've only gone through Lover.
Yeah, there's a Fearless dress.
It's always, like, a fearless dress.
So there's like, the normalone that you like.
You know, like that poster ina room with, like, the dress that
you said it's like a flapper dress.
Oh, that's the OG Short goldFearless dress.
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There's the long gold or likelong octopus.
People call it long octopus,which I don't like.
And then why would they callit octopus?
Because it's like a lot oflike long, like round kind of type
like strings.
I don't know.
I don't love it.
I used to not like it, but nowI kind of like it more.
And there's also silverversion of that.
And then just recently she added.
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She added a silver and likeblack dress.
It's kind of like the similarstyle to the short gold.
So it's like a black bodysuit underneath.
And then there's silver tassels.
I think there's a few black tassels.
I think that's how it works.
Okay, and then what's after Fearless?
Is it red or.
It might be red.
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Is debut considered an era?
It is, but sadly debut is likeleft out and it's like really sad.
There's no debate.
Okay, so.
So the albums in order?
Debut then Fearless.
No.
Am I wrong?
Yeah.
Okay, so.
So Fearless, did you getthrough all the alphas of Fearless?
Yeah.
Oh wait, should I go in orderthe albums?
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Well, I was just thinkingthat's kind of logical way to do
it.
Really?
Remember the set list now thatshe's changed it since Paris.
So you already.
So just between Lover, I thinkthere was like five different.
There were a lot outfits inLover and then Fearless, there were
three.
Yeah, but you guess for all of these.
So you guess the guitar, theblazer, the body suit, everything.
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Oh my God.
Cuz the guitar is like theonly like non outfit thing that changes
though.
I think the guitar is the onlynon outfit thing that.
What about shoes?
There's special specific shoeswhich either each one or not.
Okay, well, there is specificshoes, but they like match without.
Okay, next up, should we go inorder of the album?
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Yes, it's logical.
Wait, let me guess.
Oh no, I don't have to guess.
What were you gonna say?
Well, I was actually gonna say red.
Because I forgot Speak nowexists Speak Now There.
So she wears like big ballgowns for Speak Now.
I'll tell you all of them.
But there's also one that she ball.
Gowns for Speak Now.
Yeah, there's one that she doesn't.
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Yeah.
Is Love Story on Speak Now.
Love Story is Fearless.
Dan, what's on Speak Now?
What's the ballad on Speak Now?
What?
Is there a ballad, like a slowsong on Speak Now?
I can think of One that's likea story slow.
That's on.
That's, like, all track.
No.
Okay.
It doesn't matter.
I don't care.
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Go ahead.
What's the outfits for Speak Now?
Well, okay, so she wears,like, ball gowns for Speak Now.
What's the COVID of Speak nowlook like?
Which one?
Isn't it a ball gown?
She's wearing, like, a, like,purple, like, flowy dress, and she's,
like, spinning.
Yeah.
Okay, so what's.
Why, what's the significanceof ball gowns?
I don't know.
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It's just amazing.
I think it's because, like,she plays Enchanted, and it's kind
of like a very, like, romanticized.
How does Enchanted go?
It's the one that we don'tlisten to that much because I don't
like it.
I don't feel like I heard it.
I haven't heard that song in along time, so I don't know.
Okay, go ahead.
Anyway, so moving on.
The main one.
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So people always think, like,the main one is the Purple muffin
dress.
I don't like that name.
I don't love this dress either.
But it's like a layered dressthat's, like, really, like, poofy,
and it's, like.
Goes from dark purple to,like, white or, like, really, really
light purple.
And people think that's themain one.
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But the first dress she everwore, which is my favorite dress,
is the Champagne Speak now dress.
It's like champagne color, andit has, like, gemstones and, like,
rhinestones and stuff, like,starting at, like, full, like, the
bottom.
I like champagne as a color.
You know the Eris toy shirtthat I have.
The one you just got?
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Yeah, yeah.
It's that dress that she's wearing.
Okay, but that was the firstone that she wore.
And then also the blue one,which is, like, kind of similar to
it, but it has, like, a halterneck that, like, crosses kind of.
I don't know how to describe it.
It's like a crossy thing, you know?
And then there's the pink one.
I don't know the pink one that.
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Well, the pink one, I think,is similar to Champagne.
And then there's also thetissue paper dress.
How do you.
What do you mean?
Why are you saying that?
What?
Why are you saying that?
It's tissue paper.
Is it literally tissue paper?
It's called tissue paper.
Cause it's like, florals,things that kind of look like tissue
paper.
But she doesn't wear thatanymore because she wasn't able to
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because she, like, can't playguitar when she wears that one, because
sleeves, they're full sleeves,and it's like, kind of like long
and.
But the sleeves also have theflowers on them.
So she can't play guitar in that.
So she doesn't wear that.
It would deaden the strings.
Yeah, and she probably had a.
She probably had a technicaldifficulties the first time they
tried.
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Probably.
She only wore it a few times.
Yeah.
That's really pretty, though.
Just kind of sad.
And.
And then recently.
Did I miss any?
We're up to Speak Now.
Yeah, I don't think I missedany, but there's one that she added
most recent.
It's one of my favorite ones.
Probably like, my favorite oneor second favorite, probably tied
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with champagne, is the swirlsdress, which is really pretty.
I love that one.
It's like.
It's less of like a ball gownthat's, like, really, like, poofy
like that.
Yeah, it's more of, like, aflowy thing, but it's so big.
It's like light, purplish beige.
I don't really know how todescribe it.
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Like, pearly kind of.
And it has, like, a floraldesign kind of that looks like swirls.
It's my favorite one.
I think it's really pretty.
And that's it for Speak Now.
Oh, and then the koi fishguitar is my favorite one.
Oh, yeah, you showed me that.
That's awesome.
Don't you love it?
Yeah, I was able to see it.
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Wait, so how many guitars doesshe play on Speak Now?
Only one.
Just the koi fish.
Yeah, but she doesn't play theguitar anymore.
Is there any significance tothe koi fish?
Or she just has a cool guitarwith koi fish on it?
Now that I think about it, Idon't know.
It's just like the Speak now guitar.
Yeah.
But she doesn't use it anymorebecause she only used it for Long
Live, and then she removedLong Live from the set list.
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There you go.
That was wrong, but that waskind of sad.
And then red.
Okay.
Red is kind of complicated.
So she wears.
At first, you would thinkeverything would be red in the red
set.
Okay.
Yeah.
So at first she wears, like, abodysuit that's really simple.
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It's black on the bottom, andit fades to red on the top.
And it used to just be like aplain, like, strap, you know?
And then she changed it afterParis when she added ttpd, and now
it's like a double straps,this situation.
But it's kind of, like, weird.
It's like a V neck and thenshe puts.
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Oh, no, she doesn't start offwith that.
She starts out wearing that,but with the red shirt over it.
Which.
What's the red shirt?
So, you know, like the shirt.
Oh, my God, I got this so dirty.
You know the shirt that shewears and though we are never getting
back together ever.
Yeah, with like, a bunch ofwriting on it.
Like a kid wrote on it.
Yeah, no, it says, like,different stuff, but it's like the
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same font for everything.
And then there's like one,like, line, like one word that's
red.
I don't remember.
So there's like, a lot of them.
I don't really know if I wantto go through them.
So I don't think I'm gonna beable to remember them.
Okay, so do your best, like, ever.
I'm not gonna say the wholething because we're really long.
There's like, ever.
Does she ever wear, like.
Cuz didn't we were nevergetting back together.
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Didn't she wear, like, kind oflike jeans or not, like, like jean
shorts and like sneakers andlike a T shirt or something?
Yeah.
In that video.
What did she have suspenderson in that video.
Does she ever wear, like,anything like that on stage?
No, she's not.
She's too fancy.
Yeah, she's too fancy.
Yeah.
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So one of the shirts.
Okay, so like, Ever About Me,Taylor's version.
Ew.
This is what they.
This is.
These are the songs from thered set.
Well, no, they're not the songs.
They're like what people callthe shirts.
Because the shirts have, like,sayings on them.
And then like, the red wordwith the red, like, feet words.
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Or word would be these ones.
So it's Ew About Me, Taylor'sversion, like, ever.
So she has a.
She has a.
She has a bodysuit and thenshe wears a shirt over it.
You know how, like.
And the shirts are alldifferent video.
She's wearing, like, short,like really short black shorts.
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That's what it looks like whenshe has the bodysuit.
Because the bodysuits, like,not like a full body suit, like lover
is.
It kind of like goes down more.
So it's more of like a short,like really, really short shorts
going into a bodysuit kind of.
So it's short, so they looklike shorts, basically, but they're
not really shorts.
It just has a line.
Yeah, there's like, the cut is lower.
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You know, I don't know.
Oh, I'm sorry.
When you say body, you knowwhat I actually picture?
I was actually picturing aBodysuit, like a full bodysuit all
the way down to her feet or something.
So the color.
But it's not, it's likebasically like a.
It's like a one piece swimsuit.
Like a one piece swimsuit.
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So, so the bot.
But the bodysuit for red is.
Goes down all the way to shorts.
Not really like short shorts.
It's just like the lover bodysuit is more like that.
Yeah, the red bodysuit is like that.
Okay, so it's just like theline goes all the way down.
It's like a lower cut.
So it looks more like shortsif she has like a shirt over it.
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Got it.
Okay, fine.
So.
So that's all she wears that bodysuit.
And the shirt and the shirt now.
And then she has like a Kateand like a cape, cloak, coat, coat
type thing.
I don't know how to describe it.
That matches the bodysuit whenshe, when she plays all too well.
Tennis version.
She plays The Alt.
The 10 minute version live.
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Is it every night?
Yeah.
And she's like.
And she always asks like, Ihave a question.
If you want to go to thebathroom, how's your chance?
No, that's mean.
That's actually a very popular topic.
When do you go to the bathroom?
There's no time to go to thebathroom because you can.
I go during Speak now.
But it's like a hard thing togo during speaking.
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Speak now.
Because there's only one song.
Speak now.
You don't want to miss Speak now.
You know, I don't know, I'dprobably go during like look what
she made me do or something.
Because you can't go duringDon't Blame me because we have like
the Don't Blame me high note.
You can't miss, you know.
Wait a minute, is.
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Doesn't she take breaks?
Isn't there an intermission or something?
How long was the show?
Three and a half hours.
Three and a half hours with no break?
Uh huh.
Are you serious?
It's not an intermission or anything.
There's got to be.
What?
Yeah, but I watch the livestreams every day and there's no
intermission.
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I don't know how it works.
People say that she probablyjust doesn't go to the bathroom because
she sweats so much and she'sdrinking, but she just sweats much
that she doesn't like.
You know, it's funny, SabrinaCarpenter has like a cup that she
takes with her everywhere andshe's always like kneeling over the
stage getting watered.
It's like a Starbucks cup, youknow, kind of it's humbler.
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Sabrina Carpenter has a cup.
Yeah.
And she's, like, known for her cup.
Wait.
But mean when she performs or.
And she'll just, like, gowhenever she wants and kneel by the
stage and sip at her starving cup.
Yeah.
What do you think's in that cup?
I don't know.
You think Element?
She's probably Element.
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Yeah, that's.
I wish it.
Taylor says, dude, if youbring up element.
I wish I was a sponsor.
I wish they were a sponsor.
You know, I wish so hard theywere a sponsor.
It was really sweet, dad.
Actually, you know, I can't.
Actually, I don't know if Ican justify.
We can put in.
We can put an Amazon link to element.
Yeah, sure.
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In the.
In the show notes.
I don't know if I can justifythis with it being, like, true.
But I saw a video and, like,Taylor's so nice.
She gives.
She always has, like, snacksand, like, an assortment of, like,
beverages and teas for herbath dancers, and they give everyone
a cup.
But then I saw.
And then, like, I saw a bunchof comments.
It was like, that's fake.
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You're not a backup dancer.
You're lying.
Because I don't.
She showed pictures, so maybeit's like, pictures.
Like, they're like her backup dancers.
You pretty much can't believeanything on the Internet anyway,
so you really.
It's.
You never know.
I think we're on a roll withthe outfits.
Yeah.
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So.
So we finished red.
I'm not gonna list the shirtsbecause there's too many.
Okay.
You listed a bunch of them, so.
I think that's Red.
1989.
So after Red was 1989.
1989.
That's when she blew up.
Yeah.
1989 gets a little bitcomplicated because she used to wear
these outfits.
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And then after Paris, when sheswitched to look.
What, to ttpd, she completelychanged it.
And I think I know why.
Actually.
I don't know why.
That's just stupid.
Actually, maybe I know why.
I don't know.
Do you have a theory or.
I have a theory that shewanted to wear the outfit that she
switched to, but she couldn'tbecause she had to do surprise songs
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and she wasn't.
And she wouldn't be able tochange so quickly out of that outfit.
Put on the surprise song dress.
So because her old outfit, shewould wear underneath her surprise
song dress, but she can't dothat with her new one.
And anyways, 1989 isn't thefour surprise songs anymore.
So 1989, she used to Wearlike, these matching sets that had,
like, diamond pattern.
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Kind of like it was like a topand then like, a skirt.
And they were.
They were all the same style,but they were different colors.
And trying to think of the colors.
There was blue, pink.
There's Orange, Green.
1989.
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Taylor's version is like ablue blue.
Like, I don't know, likeseagulls or beach or something.
That, to me, it's just so notthe vibe of that album.
I feel like the vibe of thatalbum is that cover with the.
Yeah, but the color.
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But the COVID The thing isthat, like.
But the sweatshirt that she'swearing in the COVID is seagulls
on it.
Yeah, it's the iconic seagull sweatshirt.
Really?
Yeah.
I don't remember that.
Okay, that's fine.
And then.
Yeah, so it's like a top andthen a skirt that's, like, matches.
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It has, like, a diamondpattern made with, like, rhinestones.
But, you know, like the longbeads that are, like, sparkly.
Well, I don't know, butthey're sewn in, like, a diamond
pattern.
It's really cute.
I love that one.
But after Paris, she changed it.
And when you say after Paris.
After Paris.
When she went to a tour.
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No, when she did a tour.
Yeah, Paris.
Paris was the first show aftershe took, like, a break.
And during that break, TTBDwas released.
Oh, so the Paris show was thefirst night with TTBD on the Silence.
Okay, so it was, like, a big night.
We got, like, a bunch of newoutfits, which was really amazing.
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Thank you, Taylor.
We're so gracious.
You were so generous, Taylor,making your show even longer, even
though you cut Long Live andthe Archer and Tolerate it and so
many other songs that did notdeserve to be cut.
Oh, Tolerate it.
Actually, remember when wewent to see Tolerated has that whole
bit where she's, like, on the table?
You know how she broughtTravis out?
(27:38):
You told me about it.
If Tolerate was still on theset list, she should have made Travis
be, like, the guy that sits atthe other end of the table.
That was an actor, though.
No.
Yeah, but Travis did fine, andI could do with a broken heart.
And Travis.
I'm not sure if Travis is upto the.
He did amazing.
He carried Taylor on stage.
It was so fun.
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Yeah, but he's a strong guy.
He's.
It was fantabulous.
I understand that he couldprobably carry her physically, but
can he carry a dramatic scene?
That's my question.
I.
I have my doubts, but listen,I'm not gonna.
I don't know.
Listen, I'm not taking any.
I don't want to take anythingaway from the guy.
Okay?
I'm.
Let's.
I have faith in him.
I changed my mind.
We love you, Travis.
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I think he can do it.
I think he can do.
I think he'll be fine.
Go ahead.
Yeah, he can do it.
With a broken heart, guys.
So where were we?
You.
Did we get through the 1999?
Oh, no, I didn't.
We have to go on to the new one.
So the new ones are, like,big, poofy?
Like, they're not poofy.
They're, like, really, like,sturdy skirts.
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But they, like, are, like,kind of like.
You like the poodle.
Yeah.
Things like from, like, the 19.
Whatever is old times.
It's like that.
It's, like, less.
You know how those really kindof, like, sturdy, but they, like,
still looked like rough leaf.
It was like that, but it's,like, short.
Hmm.
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Are they wavy or are they straight?
Wavy Kind of.
I don't know.
I'll have to show it to you.
We should have done.
You know what we should have done?
You should have prepared aPowerPoint, and we should have done
a video show where we shared screen.
You go through the PowerPointand show all the outfits.
Mm.
I should have.
But we don't plan these, soit's fine.
So.
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And then she wears a top, andthe top is, like, amazing.
So it's like the same kind of,like, top.
It's like a really simple top,but then there's, like, a pendant
in the middle, and, you know,like, the tiger, like, lion or whatever
it is pendant that she wearsin the.
Look what you made me do.
Music video.
It's that it's so iconic, andit's like just, like, spaghetti straps,
(29:45):
and then there's, like, amiddle strap, I think.
And the pendant is on a chain,like a necklace.
Well, it was in.
Look what you made me do.
Music video, I think, butit's, like, on her top.
Okay.
Okay.
And then here's where it gets complicated.
I don't remember how manycolors there are, but she mix and
matches them, so I know that there's.
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There's both of each.
There's, like, one color.
So, you know, there's a wholething, like, Steve Jobs is so famous
because all he ever wore wasjeans and a turtleneck.
Because that's right.
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So.
And the reason he did it isbecause humans get.
Because he didn't want decision.
Decision fatigue.
Right.
So humans get.
They can only make so manydecisions per day, and Then you start
to, like, sort of run out of energy.
So now I'm thinking about howmuch stress Taylor must have.
Somebody must choose them eachnight for her.
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But, God, could you imagine?
This is.
I'm getting stressed out.
She has some of them becausewhen she does them, she likes to,
like, throw us off a lot.
Like, she's worn the samebodysuit, like, eight nights in a
row.
And like, a few nights ago, Ithink it was.
It must sting.
Then she wore.
Dad.
She wore, like.
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They're, like, all gemstone.
I don't even know if they canstart to stain.
They're all gems.
Oh, they might be really sweating.
They might be really breathable.
Right.
Because you just go throughthe car.
Walk is, like, full thing.
It's like a full bodysuit.
Although it does.
It's missing bodysuit.
Yeah.
Because it's missing a leg.
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Yeah.
Still hot.
Probably.
It's probably made of somesort of athletic material.
Like a bed.
Like a.
Like a breathable athleticmaterial also, because it.
Sometimes they chase, youknow, so they have to be.
They're like.
She's running around a lot.
They have to be made for performance.
In theory.
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I would think so.
Okay, so what were we doing?
We were getting through 1989 outfits.
So there's a green top andbottom, yellowish gold top and bottom.
There's like an orangey redtop and bottom.
Purple.
Blue.
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Okay.
Pink.
Did I say green?
I think so, because there'sgreen, too.
Yeah.
And she, like, mix and matchesthem every night.
She's only ever worn the samecolor on top of bottom ones, and
it was orange.
Yellow, the goldish yellow one.
So that's it for 1989, really?
That her shoes match both the colors.
(32:37):
Yeah.
Okay.
1989.
Reputation.
Reputation.
She has, like, scammed us.
There's only one outfit for Reputation.
We just talked about it.
Right.
It's like a snake bodysuit.
So we're hoping.
That's actually one of myleast favorite outfits that she wears.
I don't know.
It just looks kind of like.
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I like.
I don't like asymmetrical look.
I don't mind if the design.
Yeah.
I don't mind if the design isasymmetrical, but I don't like.
Like the printing, but I don'tlike it when an outfit is, like,
really asymmetrical like that,you know?
Anyway.
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Okay, so.
Love her.
We did love her first.
Folklore.
Okay.
Folklore is a little bit of atricky situation because Folklore
and Evermore were two separateeras, and then they got combined.
Right.
So now she doesn't wear any ofthe Evermore dresses.
They're like all pushed aside.
And she wears a certainselection of folklore dresses.
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So the original ones werecream, which was like the Ogo, I
think there was a purple one,but she doesn't wear that one anymore.
There was a light pink one.
No.
And the dresses are what kindof style?
They're like.
They're like.
You like the one that I waslike the white one where she's like
twirling that one post?
Yes, it's more like a.
It's like a flowy thing and ithas like a cut out here, but there's
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like like a leaf design in thesame color there kind of, you know,
and it has a good cape ishtype thing, like arm.
So there's a cream one, alight pink, which is like my favorite
one.
A purple one she doesn't wear anymore.
There's like a sky blue, whichis one of my favorites.
A green one.
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I like the green one a lot.
Wait, are they all the same design?
Yeah, just different colors.
Okay.
And I think that's it for likethe old ones, but she still wears
some of them, so she wears alot of them.
And the old ones are.
Were those just Folklore?
Are those the combined Evermore?
Well, she wears those exceptfor the purple one.
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She wears all of them exceptfor the purple one still.
But she also added two newones, which are the yellow one and
like the berry one, which islike a really intense reddish pink.
Does.
Super saturated.
Does she ever.
Is it one outfit per era pernight, or does she ever change outfits
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mid era?
She does that sometimes too.
Okay, well, kind of, yeah.
There's like an outfit change,but it's like the same thing where,
like it's underneath whatshe's wearing, which is the.
One where she dives into the water.
That's surprise songs whereshe goes like.
She like dives into the stage.
That's after surprise songsgoing into midnights.
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That's when she changes.
We did Folklore.
Okay, I'm gonna do theEvermore dresses because, like the
old ones that she doesn't wearanymore, there were two.
There was like a yellowishorange one.
It was pretty, but it wasn'tmy favorite.
Was it also the same design asthe one, the Folklore one?
They have their own design as well.
Yeah.
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I don't really know how todescribe it.
It's like orange and it's kindof like a straighter type thing.
It's like similar to Folklore,I think it's like the same type of
like skirt but then the top ismore of like.
Imagine you take a tube topand you put it on and then you have
two thicker straps and they.
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And then there's like golddetailing on it.
But my favorite Evermore dresswas the Bronze Evermore dress.
And the Bronze Evermore dresswas the prettiest thing ever.
It was similar to the designof the.
It was like the similar shapeas the goal, as the orange Evermore
dress.
Yeah.
But it was like.
It's like really like bronzeish, but kind of like reddish a little
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bit.
And it's so sparkly.
And it's like the prettiestthing ever.
And it's my favorite dressshe's ever worn.
And.
Okay.
And now Midnights.
Midnights.
She wears a lot of stuff.
So this is when she changes.
So she starts out.
I remember midnights nowbecause she has.
She has the.
She's like the.
There's like the.
Like there's some sort of, like.
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Yeah, there's some sort of.
Where like she falls in andthere's like umbrellas and they have
the umbrellas during midnight rain.
And she changes.
Yeah, okay, I'll explain that.
So she starts off wearing themidnight shirt dress, which.
There's a bunch of differentcolors in them.
There's a few.
Okay.
So there's silver, light pink.
Some of these she doesn't wear anymore.
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These are just like reallystraight looking dresses.
Right?
Like, like no waistline.
They just go straight up and down.
Yeah, I think I remember this dress.
Yeah.
So there's sailors.
What songs does she perform inthat dress?
Lavender Haze, Antihero, andHalf of the Midnight Rain.
Not half it.
Like the beginning of MidnightRain, which.
Is the one where she's.
Which is the one fromMidnights where she's doing a lot
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of walking around and beinglike all.
Lavender haze power walk.
Yeah, like the power walk.
The lavender haze.
Is it Lavender Haze?
Doesn't she have like somekind of like poofy sweat sweater
on?
Like.
Yeah, that's lavender.
Okay.
Yeah, but that's.
Also wears like a sweater likethat at the end.
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There's like.
What song was that?
Karma.
Karma.
So I think what I'm thinkingof is more like 70s boots, like sparkly.
Like, it's very.
It's just got like a more of adisco vibe.
Like a house slash disco vibe.
And there's a lot of strutting.
Yeah.
Remember the dress that Angiewore to the father?
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That was Carmel.
Yeah, yeah.
It's the last song.
So sad.
Remember the dress that Angiewore to the father?
Daughter dance.
Yes.
That's like the lavender haze one.
That jacket, which is like alight purple fuzzy.
She did that on purpose.
That was the.
She was trying to be like that.
Yeah.
Okay.
And then there's like thesparkly shirt dress.
There's silver, light pink,light purple, dark purple.
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I think there's.
There's like bright blue one.
Iridescent, which is myfavorite one.
What is iridescent?
Like, it just changes colorsor it's like.
I don't know how to describe it.
Like holographic kind of.
Yeah.
Like, looks silver, but it.
But when you.
The light changes it.
Like it's like there's colorsunderneath, almost like a prism or
something.
Yeah.
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And then I feel like there's adark blue, but I'm probably wrong.
There might be.
I don't know.
And then she does a quick.
She wears that for the firsttwo songs.
And then during Midnight Rain.
It's like the first part ofMid Rain.
And then she falls back into, like.
What's.
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How's the song Midnight Rain go?
Well, it starts with, like,that voice.
It's like Taylor's voice.
Slow down.
Like the weird voice thatmommy always comments on.
How's the song itself go?
I don't wanna sing it.
I ain't doing that.
How are we gonna know how it goes?
I know how it goes.
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I'm not doing this with youright now.
Okay, go ahead.
Well, okay.
So then she takes off the shirt.
She falls back into, like, herbackup dancers who all have umbrellas.
And then.
What's his name?
Sam.
Sam, who's one of our backupdancers, does this whole little routine
with an umbrella.
And then she pops out andshe's wearing the midnight's bodysuit.
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And there are a few different ones.
There's the dark blue one.
She doesn't wear anymore.
Scallops, which she didn'twear for a while.
And then.
What is scalloped or scallops?
It's like dark.
It's like blue.
Navy blue, kind of like royal blue.
And it has like some tasselover here.
And she wears like one ofthose things.
What's like the band?
A garter.
Yeah, she wears like one ofthose for all of them.
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All of them, I think.
Are they all the same color?
They match the bodysuit.
They match the bodysuit, whichis kind of amazing.
And then you can see whatbodysuit she's gonna wear before
she garter on to begin with.
Yeah, it's probably onunderneath the dress.
Yeah, like the 22 shirt kindof, you know.
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But there was the Scallopedone, which was, like, the original
one.
It's not my favorite one, butI really like it.
And.
Wait, so you said scalloped?
Dark blue.
She doesn't wear that one.
What?
Scalloped?
Scalloped is like.
Like I was saying, it was like.
It's like royal blue, and ithas, like, tassels.
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Tassels everywhere.
It's like, all, like, frilly.
Like, not frilly, but, like.
Oh, Jenny, you know.
Oh, Jennings.
Tassel.
Jennings, you know.
But then there's, like, asilver design kind of on the front,
and it's like, tassel, andit's like Scouts, you know, Like
Girl Scout.
(41:35):
Yeah.
Okay.
And then there's the cutoutsbody suit, which is my favorite one.
She really only.
What?
She wore that one for, like, alot of shows in a row because you
know how there was, like, thefire backstage?
People think there was a fire backstage.
No, I don't know about that.
And, like, a lot of, like, heroutfits got ruined.
(41:57):
No.
No idea.
Well, I think that happened.
I think that ruined thescallop bodysuit.
So she wasn't able to wearthat, so she had to wear the.
So I don't know what happenedto dark blue.
She might have also gotten ruined.
But after Paris, it came backand the scallop bodysuit back, but
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it's different, so I think shegot it remade.
Yeah.
And so there's the scallops,the cutouts, and the dark blue.
And then she got a new one forParis, and it's the Chevron bodysuit.
Chevron doesn't really doanything for the name.
It's like, you can't reallysee how it looks.
It's kind of, like, cut out.
It has, like, side cutouts,like, right here.
(42:38):
Yeah.
And it's, like, kind of, like, stripy.
Ish.
I don't really know how todescribe it.
People are going to want to see.
It's most recognizable by,like, the side cutouts.
I don't know what a Chevron is.
Me neither.
But it might be a thing,probably because.
Is it, like, a fabric?
Well, Chevron is a company, anoil company, but I don't know if
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that has anything to do with it.
I don't know.
I feel like a Chevron.
It's like an ancient Greek thing.
Doesn't it sound like it would be.
I don't know.
It sounds like a fabric to me.
You know, it's like Chevron.
It's Chevron.
It's natural Chevron.
I don't know.
Okay, well, let's have to lookthat up after.
Yeah.
Ttpd.
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Oh, my God.
So here's exciting.
So she wears the same dressevery night with the same jacket
for the smallest man ever, Lip.
But she only wears the jacketduring the smallest man.
And sometimes she wears gloves too.
There are white gloves andthere are black gloves.
Sometimes she wears them ifit's like cold out where they are
because her hands get cold.
So she used to wear gloves.
But it's like, you know, thedress, it's like kind of like scrooge
(43:45):
in the front.
And it's like, has like newspaper.
It's like a newspaper dress.
It's like a corset bodice withlike a corset, all corset.
And it has like a long, likeflowy skirt.
I don't love it.
It's kind of like new.
It has like newspaper print on it.
But it's like scrunched up inthe front.
So it's short in the front.
You can like see her legs andkind of.
Yeah, I.
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She wears that for everythingup until the smallest man who ever
lived, which is right before ICan do with a Broken heart and she
has like a military jacketthat's also white belt.
And then for only I Can dowith a broken heart intro where like
she's like a doll kind.
And like they're taking offher clothes and then like she has
like a little like setunderneath with.
(44:31):
And like there are a fewdifferent colors.
There's.
When you say a set, it's likeshorts and a T shirt or something.
Shorts and a shirt.
Yeah.
There's like a top, a top anda bottom bottoms.
Yeah, but they're more likehigh waisted bikini bottoms.
You can imagine that, you know.
Okay, and what is the top?
The top is just like a top.
(44:52):
You know, like a.
Like a tube top or like a.
Like a.
With sleeves or no straps.
Strap top.
So it's sort of like a.
Like an extended bikini or something.
Anyway, go on like a tank topstyle top.
Okay, so.
Okay, go on.
Black.
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There's a black one.
White, Graphite, Graphite.
Silver.
Good choice.
And then there's one that hasa gold top and black bottoms.
And then there are jacketsthat go with that.
Oh, okay.
So the black set goes with agold jacket.
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The black and gold set goeswith the gold jacket too.
And the graphite set has itsown jacket.
Graphite jacket.
The white one has a white jacket.
Does it?
I think it does, yeah.
And then there's a silver jacket.
But the silver jackets, like white.
What kind of jacket are wetalking About.
(46:01):
It's like a 19.
Something like.
We know.
It's like, long, and it has,like, a little, like.
Yeah.
And then like.
Oh, wait, hold on a second.
I don't know.
Yeah, so.
So hang on.
So it's almost like a tuxedo jacket.
Yeah.
But it's like one of the long ones.
Is it long only in the back,or is it long all the way down on
the front, too?
(46:23):
Now that I think about it, Idon't really know.
I think it's, like, only longin the back.
Interesting.
I don't know.
It's kind of interesting.
Okay, and.
But the silver ones, like white.
But the lapels.
Are those lapels, like.
Yeah, those are.
Lapels are silver.
Oh, okay.
I think it's a tuxedo jacket.
(46:43):
I think so.
Yeah.
It looks like something youwould flip the backup before you
sit down at the piano and playa little recital or something.
And so that's tcpd, and that'sreally it.
Except for surprise song.
Surprise songs.
She used to have.
So surprise songs is like the encore.
She does them at the end.
No, she does them in betweenTTPD and Midnights.
(47:05):
Midnights is the last set.
Oh, 1989 and Midnights.
Yeah.
Okay, so TG, they insertedTTPD into.
Yeah.
So TT.
Because karma always is the closer.
Yeah, got it.
So surprise songs is there.
(47:27):
Karma's always a closer.
Is there always the opener?
Is the opener always the same?
Yeah.
What's the American Heartbreak Prince?
It opens with, like, a littlebit because, you know, like, the
era store intro, it's like,it's been a long time coming, but.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So that's from Miss America,that great prince.
So at the end, when it sayslover, it says, it's been a long
(47:47):
time coming, but.
And then she goes into thisAmerica seems like they, like, you
know, like, the flappy things.
Oh, yeah, they're flapping those.
Take away the flap things, andthen she appears, and then she starts
singing Miss Americana.
The Heartbreaks, they're likebig leaves or.
Something or fans or.
Wait a minute.
So, okay, so does she playCool Summer?
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Yeah.
Okay, so she plays, like, alittle bit of Miss Americana in the
Heartbreak Prince.
And then she goes into Cool Summer.
Okay, so Cross Summer is thesecond song.
And then for surprise songs,she has, like.
Well, I love.
I used to love.
I loved the old dresses.
I miss the old dresses becauseshe only has three colors of the
new dresses, which I'll get into.
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But she used to have so manycolors with old dresses, and the
old dresses were so Pretty.
You know that picture that Ihad, the poster and I was like.
My two favorite posters wereall on the back to back.
So I had to pick which one Iwanted to use.
And you like the one that'swith her sitting on the stage?
Mm, I think so.
That's one.
That's one of the surprises.
That's the yellow one.
So the yellow one is likewidely known.
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She always plays the bestsongs in yellow.
But there was the yellow one.
There was a pink one.
I feel like there was a red one.
Are the surprise sung dressesall the same dress but different
colors also?
Yeah, these are the old onesand they were kind of like more muted.
She.
There was a green one.
Does she play a surprise songall the way through or is it always
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a medley?
What do you mean?
Where she connects the songs together.
Well, she only started doing mashups.
Sometimes she does.
Sometimes she'll do mashups,sometimes she won't.
She only started doing mashupslike halfway through the airstore,
probably even more throughbecause she didn't do mashups until.
Okay.
I think the first mashup.
(49:34):
Yeah.
The original term for a mashupwas medley, so not melody medley.
That's FYI.
That's like the what's his name?
I don't know what.
She played three songs.
She played how you get thegirl message in a bottle and was
it the very first night?
I don't know.
And she called it likewhatever it was.
(49:55):
Medley.
Medley, yeah, Medley medley.
Yeah.
Because the same guy.
She wrote with the same guy.
I don't remember who it was.
The same guy performing onstage with her?
No, same guy.
The songs were about the same guy.
The songs she wrote rewrotethem with the same guy.
So they called it like thewhatever medley.
And yeah, so there was a pink one.
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I think there was a pink one.
And she matched them with the 1989.
Actually, I don't know ifthere was a pink one cuz she always
wore yellow with the pink.
I'm getting confused.
But she always matched themwith like this.
A lot of freaking outfits.
She always matched them withthe surprise song and with the 1989
outfit before GGPD was thelast set until surprise songs.
(50:43):
Yeah, but now it isn't, so shedoesn't really have to do that.
But there was the green one,the yellow one.
I feel confusing myself.
There's an orange one, therewas a pink one, there was a blue
one.
That's gonna say orange.
There's no orange one.
There's a red one.
I think that's it.
But now there are new ones andthere's only three.
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And it's like a different style.
And I missed the old style cuzthe old style was so much better.
But there's like an ocean blue one.
These ones are not like solid colors.
There was an ocean blue onethat was like kind of like a mix.
Like it was like dark blue andit was like kind of like dark blue.
And then some of the skirt islike light blue ombre, but not really
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light blue.
It's like, not like an intenseombre, like a light ombre kind of.
And then there's like a sunsetone which is orange and yellow ombre.
There might be a little bit oflike dark orange, like orange going
into red kind of.
And then the last one is thepink one, which is just pink, I think
(51:50):
maybe a little bit of ombrewith light pink, but very light.
And those are the surprise sundresses.
And now we're done.
Wow.
So I wanted to tell you.
So we went.
There was a huge review ofTaylor's outfits.
We've been talking for 52 minutes.
And I always joke with Danwhen we do this podcast that we talk
(52:14):
about every.
The official intro to the show is.
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Hold on a second.
Hi, welcome to the get yousome productions podcast, a show
covering all things related tomusic production from the first note
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to the last fan and everythingin between.
Right.
That's what I always say inthe beginning.
And then I always joke withDan that we talk about everything
that's music related, including.
So it could be music lyrics,equipment, gear, marketing, or concert
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attire.
And there's a big.
But we never get into likewhat's appropriate.
What do you wear on stage?
Except that there is a thingabout whether you can wear shorts
on stage.
Really?
Well.
So men.
It's not considered cool for aman to wear shorts on stage.
Why?
Like, no matter how hot it is,you have to wear pants.
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Nobody wants to see a man's knees.
You know what I mean?
You just don't do it.
That's weird.
You're just not allowed to.
So you wear leggings.
Man leggings.
If you're in like a band.
If you're like top, whateverhis name is.
Durst, Fred Durst, and you'rein like a hardcore band and you wear
like some really long cargoshorts and they go past your knees
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and that's your thing, thenmaybe, I guess you can wear shorts
on stage.
But like, it's generally not accepted.
It's generally frowned upon.
Anyway, but this is.
So we covered a lot of.
So I also wanted to say this.
Can you.
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We can actually call this aseries on my podcast or we can.
If we don't have to do that,we can actually.
You can actually release yourown podcast.
So anyway, let's do that.
You want to do your own.
So we have to come up with aname for it.
You need to come up with a.
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Little let's Talk Taylor.
Taylor Talk or something.
We have to look on the podcastapp and see there's probably a million
Taylor Swift related podcasts.
So we have to see if someonealready has Taylor Talk.
Taylor Talk is a no brainerbecause of the alliteration.
Somebody may already havetaken it.
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Let's Talk Taylor.
Let's Talk Taylor.
So anyway, thanks forlistening, y'all.
I wanna keep talking about Taylor.
Well, we've been talking foran hour and it's late.
It's time for bed.
Okay, bye.